Divine Encounters Episode 110 | Near-Death Experience Story
David Ditchfield was a struggling laborer in London, close to losing his apartment, when he says a railway platform accident ended with him leaving his body in an emergency room. In this Divine Encounters episode he tells Alex Ferrari what he says followed: a calm, dark place, pulsing orbs of light, healers at his side, a waterfall of stars and a tunnel of white light that he understood to be the source of all creation.
Key Takeaways
- David says that before the accident he felt like “the square peg in the round hole,” working odd construction jobs and running out of money in London.
- He describes a moment on a station platform when he was sure he was about to die, and says a few seconds felt like minutes.
- David says that in the emergency room he left his body and found himself in a darkness with “nothing foreboding” about it, surrounded by slowly pulsing orbs of light.
- He describes a calm figure with white blonde hair and two women who held their hands over him, and says they healed more than his body. He says they lifted the guilt and shame he had carried all his life.
- David says he looked over the edge of his altar-like resting place and saw a waterfall of stars, then understood he was part of the universe itself.
- He says he was told the huge tunnel of white light was the source of all creation, and that its energy made every molecule of his body vibrate with love.
- His takeaway: the main person he was harming was himself, and Earth is a golden opportunity to enjoy and not destroy.
| Guest | David Ditchfield |
| Episode | Divine Encounters 110 |
| Life before | Picking up manual labor in London, running out of money, close to losing his apartment |
| What David says happened | A train accident at a railway platform, then leaving his body in the emergency department |
| Where he says he went | A calm dark place, a slate altar under grids of white light, a waterfall of stars |
| Who he met | A figure he describes as neither male nor female, two women healers, and a tunnel of white light he understood as God |
| The message | He was doing the harm to himself; Earth is a gift to enjoy and not destroy |
| After | An operation of about eight and a half hours, then a request for a sketch pad and pencil |
Who Is David Ditchfield? Life Before the Accident
David does not begin with the light. He begins with the struggle. Before he died, he says, he was jumping from day to day, picking up manual labor on construction sites. He was not especially good at it. “I was also the square peg in the round hole,” he tells Alex Ferrari.
He had moved to London hoping for breaks. He wanted to meet people and build a life, and he found himself around friends who were successful in the music industry and in media. He wanted to be part of that game. They were already established, he says, and they were not letting him in.
Things were going badly. Money was running out and he was about to lose his apartment. So he went to stay with his sister and her family, who live out in the countryside near Cambridge, to get his feet back on the ground. While he was there he met a woman named Anna. They connected, hit it off, and she came to stay with him for a few days.
A Goodbye at the Station
Anna had to get back to London, so David went to see her off at the rail station. He helped her on with her bags and gave her one last hug goodbye. Then the emergency buzzers sounded for the automatic doors to close, and as they did, part of his thick, three quarter length sheepskin coat was trapped in the bottom of the door.
He says it was not going to pull free. The engine began to rev. He banged on the doors and screamed for help at the top of his voice, but no one came. There was no guard on the platform. “I just kind of figured, this is it,” he recalls. He thought he was not going to survive.
David describes deciding to run alongside the train as it pulled out at great speed. He says he felt every gear shift before he lost his footing. He asks listeners to understand one thing about what came next: he was fully conscious through all of it, and he calls it a terrifying experience.
Seconds That Felt Like Minutes
David says he was thrown around beneath the train and then came to rest between the tracks. It was not over, he realized. The train was long, and part of it could still reach him. So he pressed his face into the gravel and kept it there.
What stays with him is how his mind behaved. The whole episode took only seconds, yet “it felt like minutes,” and he says he had time to think it through. Fight or flight, he says, and he chose to fight. He remembers thinking of James Bond and Indiana Jones and asking himself what they would do. They would put their heads down in the gravel, so he did.
When the train was gone he lay there amazed that he was alive. He looked up at a clear February sky and thought, wow, look at that sky. After moments of absolute horror, he says, he felt deeply in touch with nature. Paramedics arrived quickly and got him onto a trailer and into an ambulance.
Leaving the Body in the Emergency Room
In the emergency department, David says, it became clear how serious his injuries were, including his left arm, and he was losing a great deal of blood. He could hear panic in the voices around him. “This isn’t sounding good,” he remembers thinking. He was not sure he would survive.
Then, he says, he left his body. The pain and the tense atmosphere of the hospital were gone, and he was in what he describes as a very calm, darkened place. “Nothing foreboding about this darkness.” It felt comforting. It happened, he says, literally that fast.
He got his bearings and lifted his head. All around him were beautiful colored orbs of light, slowly pulsating. David says he knew right then: he had passed on, and this was the next stage. He did not want to die, he is clear about that. But it felt so beautiful that he decided to go with it and not fight it.
The Altar, the Blue Sheet and the Light
David realized he was no longer on a hospital trolley. He was lying on what he describes as a huge slate rock. “It was like a medieval altar, but it felt incredibly comfortable to lie on.” He noticed he was no longer clothed, and that a blue sheet with a satin or silk texture covered his body, with white light reflecting off it.
Above him, three grids of white light were closing in. He says the light was so intense that in normal life you could not look into it, but in that realm he could. He could not take his gaze away. It was calming, and he felt a healing energy coming from it. He lay back and, as he puts it, bathed in the light for some time.
The Keeper and the Two Women
Then David felt someone arrive. He lifted his head and saw a figure standing at his feet, “neither male nor female,” with very white blonde hair and skin that seemed to glow from within. This figure wore a plain, contemporary black T-shirt. That struck him at the time, he says, because he had expected something more ethereal. He laughs that he had watched too many movies.
The figure smiled, and David says he knew the face. It felt like meeting someone at a party and feeling you have known them for years, except more so. He felt he had known this being for his whole life and beyond. “I felt like this person was my keeper,” he says, guarding his soul.
Two more people appeared, one on each side. To his right stood a girl in a contemporary brown dress, who looked European, with long brown hair. To his left stood a girl who looked to him Native American, Brazilian or Asian Indian, in a traditional dress of creamy, beautifully textured cloth. They held their hands slowly over his body, and David says the energy coming from their hands felt like a beautiful vibration.
More Than a Physical Healing
David says that as he looked, everything was fixed. His body was back in place, without even a scratch. But the two women kept going, and he came to understand why. They were not only healing the physical body. He says they were healing the personal trauma he had carried his whole life, the baggage we all carry, peeling off layer after layer until only the essence of his pure soul remained.
He compares it to a therapy session, one in which his whole life was unveiled in a beautiful way. He had carried a lot of guilt and shame, and he realized it did not belong to him anymore. He had spent so much time worrying about the future or being haunted by mistakes and missed opportunities. All of it dispersed. “I feel complete all at once,” he says.
He says he did not have a life review in the usual sense; this was a healing session instead. The learning was simple and direct. “The main person that I was doing any harm to was me.” He had been beating himself up for his entire life.
His family, he knew, had arrived at the hospital just before he left his body. His mother had been in tears, and he imagined them looking over his dead body. He was concerned, he says, but not overly so. He felt very relaxed. When he leaned over the edge of the slate altar hoping to see them below, he did not see the hospital at all.
A Waterfall of Stars
What David saw instead was vast. “A waterfall of stars,” he says, about the size of Niagara Falls, except that instead of millions of tons of water it was millions of sparkling stars cascading over the edge. He looked down into what seemed like infinity, and the longer his eyes adjusted the further he saw, from one galaxy into another.
The colors were what stayed with him. Before this, he says, he had looked at the sky maybe once in his life, and to him space was only stars against a black backdrop. Now it was full of color that he had never seen. He pulled himself back onto the altar thinking: I am not a small speck in space at all. I am in the universe itself.
That, David says, is when he felt very at one with the universe. Everything made sense. We are all part of it. If you are interested in this idea of unity, the glossary has a short entry on oneness.
The Tunnel of White Light
Lying back, still bathing in the healing, David felt his body begin to vibrate in a beautiful way. He looked up and saw, just behind the being who stood at his feet, a tunnel of white light closing in on him. It was surrounded by powerful flames slowly circulating around it.
Normally, he says, something like that would be frightening. It was so awe inspiring that it could have been. Instead, “there was no sense of fear.” He felt only absolute joy. A great deal of telepathy went on through the whole experience, he explains, and one of the biggest things he was told was that this was the source of all creation. This was God.
It was not what he had expected. He had pictured the figure on the ceiling of the Vatican, with a long gray beard reaching out to Adam. Instead he saw a huge tunnel of white light, and as it came closer its energy was “causing every single molecule of my body to vibrate with love.” At that point, he says, he came crashing back into his body.
Back to the Noise, and a Sketch Pad
David was still smiling when he returned. The hospital seemed suddenly very loud, the acoustics too much to bear, and a fluorescent strip light was shining in his eyes. He says people often assume he must have felt disappointed to be sent back. He was not. He was so full of love and knowledge that his reaction was, right, let’s go. He was about to be wheeled into the operating theater, and he knew he was going to have a huge operation.
He came around after about eight and a half hours, alone in a private room, with a little machine bleeping in the dark at 2am. He thought of it as a friend, like a small R2-D2. Part of him was dealing with the trauma of having been under a train. But the main part of him was asking: “How am I going to tell the world about this?”
At that stage he had never even heard of a near-death experience. Spirituality did not come into his life. He was afraid he would forget it all. So when his sister visited and asked, very quietly, what she could bring him, he asked for a small sketch pad and a pencil. “I’ve got to sketch out what I’d seen,” he thought. He had never done anything like it, but painting seemed the best way to tell people.
That one decision matters. David did not wait to understand his experience before he honored it. He wrote it down in color and form first.
What He Says We Are Here to Do
David closes with a thought about the planet. When he came back, he says, he felt that Earth is heaven in itself. “It’s such a beautiful place.” He became fascinated by astronauts and what they felt looking back at it: gray, dusty ground under their feet, and then this planet full of color.
His conclusion is plain. “So our mission is just to really try and enjoy what we’ve got.” Not to destroy it. He says we are an important part of the universe, and living here is a golden opportunity.
How David’s Story Sits Beside Other Near-Death Accounts
People who share near-death experiences often describe leaving the body, a feeling of peace, bright light, meeting beings who feel familiar, and a sense of being sent back. David’s account includes all of those. The tunnel of white light is a common image, though he describes it with flames around it and a sense of awe rather than fear. A different note is his experience of healing: instead of a review of his life, he describes a gentle clearing of guilt and shame.
If you would like to explore these themes in context, start with our complete guide to near-death experiences, and the glossary entry for near-death experience. We share these accounts as experiences, in the person’s own words, and we do not make medical claims.
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Questions to Sit With
- David says he carried guilt and shame that “didn’t belong to me anymore.” Which old weight are you still carrying that might not be yours?
- He says he was the main person doing harm to himself. Where in your life are you the harshest critic in the room?
- When you look up at the sky this week, what changes if you imagine yourself as part of the universe, and not a small speck in it?
Take a small notebook or sketch pad outside and look at the sky for five minutes. Draw or write whatever you notice, just as David reached for a pencil to hold on to what he saw.
Spiritual Takeaways
- David says the harm he was doing was to himself, and that the guilt and shame he carried did not belong to him.
- He describes healing that reached beyond the body, to the trauma and baggage of a whole lifetime.
- He says he understood we are part of the universe, not separate from it.
- He describes the source of all creation as a tunnel of white light whose love he felt in every molecule.
- He says Earth is a golden opportunity, and our mission is to enjoy it and not destroy it.
Please enjoy my conversation with David Ditchfield.
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Frequently Asked Questions
Who is David Ditchfield?
David Ditchfield is a near-death experiencer who shares his story on Divine Encounters. Before the accident he was doing manual labor in London, running low on money and trying to find a place in the music and media world.
What happened to David Ditchfield before his near-death experience?
David says he was seeing a friend named Anna off at a railway station when his coat was caught in the closing doors of a train. He says he was dragged and thrown beneath the train, ended up between the tracks, and survived the moments that followed.
What did David see when he left his body?
David says he found himself in a calm, dark place with beautiful colored orbs of light slowly pulsing around him. He then realized he was lying on what felt like a huge slate altar covered with a blue satin sheet.
Who did David meet in his near-death experience?
He describes a figure who was neither male nor female, with white blonde hair and glowing skin, whom he felt was his keeper. He also describes two women, one on each side of him, who held their hands over his body.
What does David say the healing was?
David says the two women healed his body, and also the personal trauma, guilt and shame he had carried his whole life. He compares it to a therapy session in which layers were peeled away until only his pure soul remained.
What was the waterfall of stars?
David describes looking over the edge of the altar and seeing a waterfall of stars about the size of Niagara Falls. He says it led into galaxies full of color, and he realized he was in the universe itself.
What did David say the tunnel of white light was?
David says he was told the tunnel of white light, surrounded by slowly circulating flames, was the source of all creation. He says this was God, and it did not look like the bearded figure he had imagined.
Did David have a life review?
David says he did not have a life review in the traditional sense. Instead he describes a session with the beings who removed what did not belong to him. The lesson he took is that the main person he had been harming was himself.
Was David disappointed to come back?
He says no. David says people often expect him to be disappointed, but he felt so full of love and knowledge that he was ready to go and face the operation.
Why did David ask for a sketch pad?
David says he was afraid he would forget what he had seen, and he had never heard of a near-death experience. He decided that painting was the best way to tell people, so he asked his sister for a small sketch pad and a pencil.
Is a near-death experience proof of an afterlife?
Next Level Soul shares near-death experiences as lived experiences told in the person’s own words. Researchers continue to study and debate what they mean. Nothing here is medical advice or a medical claim.
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Follow Along with the Transcript
Alex Ferrari 0:00
Tell me what your life was like before you died.
David Ditchfield 0:08
I was jumping around from day to day, just picking up manual laboring work, you know, on construction sites and that kind of thing. And I wasn't actually that good at that kind of work, you know. So I wasn't really fitting. I was also the square peg in the round hole. So it was a bit of a struggle. I'd moved to London. I'd moved there because I figured, you know, that I might get some breaks there, and I might sort of meet people and try and, you know, develop my life. But that never really happened. And in a sense, it was hard, because I was hanging out with people who were successful, working in the music industry and things like that, and in media, and I just wanted to be part of that that whole sort of game, you know. But they weren't letting me in. They were already established, and it really wasn't for me. So I'd gone to stay with my sister and her family, who were out in Cambridge, and I was, well, they're out in the countryside, actually. And I was hanging out there for a while just to try and get my my feet back on the ground, you know. Because things were going bad, I was running out of money, you know. I was just about to lose my apartment, and, you know, it was that bad. So while I was there, I'd met somebody. I'd met this girl called Anna, who we got on really well. We got this connection, and we just kind of hit it off. And she said, I want to come and stay with you for a few days. So we did do and then she had to get back to London, so I was seeing her off at the track the rail station, and she got on to the car. I was helping her on with the bags and stuff, you know. I gave her a hug, a last minute hug, goodbye, and the emergency buzzers went for the doors to close the automatic doors, and as they did, my coat got trapped in the bottom. Part of my coat was like a three quarter length dry coat, you know, and it wasn't going to come out. It was like a sheepskin thick coat. I thought, this is not going to pull free. The engine started to rev up, and I thought, what can I was banging on the doors. I screamed for help, you know, calling the top of my voice, but nobody turned up. There was no guard on the platform or anything. And the engine started to rev up. And I just kind of figured, this is it. I thought I'm just gonna I'm not gonna survive this. I thought I'm gonna die. This is a moment of death. And I stopped and decided to run alongside the train. The train pulled out at great speed. I felt every gear shift, and then I lost my footing, and I was dragged along the platform. And then before I knew it, I was pulled between the platform edge and the speeding train and under the wheels, and I was tossed around, basically like a ragdoll just thrown, literally, from side to side, pillar to post. And I was fully conscious throughout the whole of this, and it was a terrifying, terrifying experience. So I suddenly found myself thrown to the ground, and I was in between the tracks, if you like, you know. So I just it wasn't over yet. The train was still going on. It was a long train, so I thought, you know, I could get hit by part of the undercarriage, or what have you, you know, and that would be it. So I just kept my face into the gravel, kept my face in there. And it's interesting, because I had time to think it through in my own mind. Even though it took only a matter of seconds for the whole episode, it felt like minutes, you know, it was like my mind had given me chance to actually think it through a survival I went to fight, all flights, obviously, you know, and I decided to fight. And I remember thinking of double Oh, seven and all those movies, you know, and Indiana Jones. What would they do now? They'd stick their head right in the gravel, so that's all they did. And the train moved off, and I was there. I was lying there, and I couldn't believe I'd survived. I was alive. It was a terrific shock. And I just looked up at the sky. I remember it was like a February date. It's a beautiful blue sky, and I just looked at the sky, and I thought, wow, look at that sky. I just felt so in touch with nature at that moment in time, because I've just been through such a few moments of absolute horror. I got to the hospital, and then the guys, paramedics arrived really quick. They got me somehow. They got me off that track and onto a trailer and into the ambulance. And then it was just when I got into the actual emergency departments that my left arm had been severed. So I was losing, like, an awful lot of blood, lots of blood, you know. And they I could hear panic in their voices. I thought, This isn't sounding good, you know. This is like I could hear fear and a thought, you know, I wasn't sure I was going to even survive at that point. Then it was at that I actually left my body. I left all the trauma of the pain that I was in and just the kind of the tense atmosphere of that hospital to what appeared to be a very calm and darkened place. Nothing foreboding about this darkness. It just felt very comforting. And I just kind of went, What's what's going on? You know, it was literally that quick, and I just kind of got my bearings. I looked around me. I remember just lifting my head, and all I could see were these beautiful colors of orbs of light that was slowly pulsating all around me. And as I looked at these orbs, I just knew at this point, I just thought, I'm dead. I've passed on. This is the next stage. I didn't fight it. I didn't want to die, but, yeah, that's what I'd just been through. This just felt so beautiful that I just decided to go with it. And I then realized I was no longer laid on the hospital trolley. I kind of put my arms down. I realized I was laid on what was like a huge slate rock. It was like a medieval altar, but it felt incredibly comfortable to lie on. So I. Laid my head back, and I looked up my body to see how everything was looking. And I realized then I was no longer clothed. I just covered in this blue sheet. It was like a satin, silk, sort of texture of material that was covering my body. And there was lost this white lie that was just reflecting off the sheet. So I looked up, and as I looked up, there were like three grids of white light that were just closing in on me, very intense, bright light. And I laid my head back, and I looked into the light, and I couldn't take my gaze away from the light, because it was just it was just so calming. And I felt that bright that normally, you know, you would not be able to look with the human eye into it, but in this sphere, you could do in this realm, it was okay. And I did, I felt that healing energy was coming from this light. So I just kind of bathed in the light as it were, you know. And I was there for some time, and I suddenly felt the presence of somebody. I thought that somebody's just arrived at the scene as it were. So I lifted my head again, and there, there was. I was this an androgynous person, you know, neither male nor female, just stood at my feet with this kind of very white blonde hair and a skin that was like illuminating light. That light was just shining from within, very, very bright. And this person was just wearing, like a very contemporary black T shirt, which was, I remember that st me at the time, was expecting something more ethereal. You know, I seen too many movies, I think, you know, this is a very simple guy, simple t shirt. And this person was just smiling at me, and I said, I know you don't. I knew this face. You know, I felt this familiarity coming from this person. You know, sometimes you get, you might go to a party or what have, you meet somebody for the first time there, and you think, Hey, I feel like I've known you for years. Yeah, we just, you know, you connect with someone. You know, even if it's just us French, and it was like that. And I thought I'd known this person for the whole of my life and beyond, you know, so but I felt safe in the presence of this person. I felt like this person was my keeper. You know, that was, that was like guarding me, guarding my soul. And I laid back and continued. And then I felt but suddenly there was more people at the right, and there was, there was two more. There was two females either side of me. There was a there was a girl to my right who was wearing, like a contemporary brown dress, and she was quite European looking, with long brown hair. And the girl to my left was more sort of, she was more like Native American or Brazilian or Asian Indian looking. And she was wearing wearing more of a traditional dress. It was like a sort of a creamy, sort of textured, beautiful cloth. And they had their hands just slowly hovering over my body, you know, and I felt the energy coming from the hands was just so intense. It was just like a beautiful vibration. And I felt healing, you know, the trauma that the body had just been through. But not only that, because I looked and everything was fixed. Every there was not even a single scratch, you know, my whole body was back in place. But they continued to heal me. And I figured that as time went on, that basically, they weren't just healing like my physical body, but they were healing all the personal trauma that I'd carried throughout my whole life that we all do. You know, the baggage as we call it. They were peeling off all those layers and taking them off one by one, and getting right down to the essence of my pure soul. It was a wonderful experience. It was, it was like having, like, a very like a therapy session. You know, my whole life just unveiled. It was, but in a beautiful way, you know, in a physical sense, it was interesting, because I carried a lot of guilt and shame throughout my life, which I realized didn't belong to me anymore. I'd spent a lot of my time in the past, concerning myself with the past or the future. I was worried about the future, where my life was going, because it was in such a mess. But I was also kind of haunted by all the mistakes I've made, or all the opportunities that I felt, that I'd missed, and all those different things that a lot of us do, and suddenly all those are dispersed. They didn't belong to me anymore, you know. And it was just I sort of thought, This is great. I feel complete all at once, you know. And I figured my family had arrived at the hospital just before this had happened, before I left my body, and I thought they were pretty distraught. My mother was in tears. I remember at the time, and I thought they're going to be looking over my dead bodies literally, you know. So I was concerned, but not overly concerned. I didn't feel the sense of, oh my goodness, my my family, I just, I was very relaxed about it, so I tried to lean over the edge of this huge slate alter thing that I was on, and looked down to hope to see them in hospital. But I didn't actually see them. But what I did see was this incredible sight. It was just like a it was a waterfall of stars. It was like, but it was very vast. It was like, sort of the size of Niagara Falls, if you like. But instead of millions of tons of water cascading over, it was just millions of beautiful, sparkling stars that were just cascading over the over the over the top. And I looked down, and I just looked into what seemed like infinity. You know, the more that my eyes adjusted, I was looking further and further. It felt like into one galaxy into another. And I was looking and I could see all these beautiful sort of colors, you know, all these in these galaxies that I'd never seen before. To me, space itself. I'd not even looked at it. I looked up at the sky once in a lifetime, but to me, it was just stars against a black backdrop. All these colors were just so really powerful. So I pulled myself. Back over, and I thought, Wow, I'm not in a small duck in space at all. I'm actually in the universe itself, you know. And I felt very at one with the universe. I suddenly felt that this is it all makes sense, that we are all part of it, you know. And it was pretty much at that point that I had the most fun moments, which was I remember lying back and still bathing in all this kind of healing process I was going through that I felt a sensation of I felt like my body was starting to almost vibrate, but in a very beautiful way, I thought, what's going on? And I looked up, and just ahead of the initial being that I'd seen, it was still stood there. Was that behind he or she? Was this a tunnel of white light that was closing in on me, and that tunnel of white light was just so bright it was surrounded by flames. There were, like, all these beautiful, powerful flames that were like, slowly circulating around. And normally something like this, you'd be kind of like, Oh, my goodness. What's going on. This is so awe inspiring that it could be frightening, but in this realm, there was no sense of fear. I just only felt absolute joy and thought, wow. And there's a lot of telepathy going on throughout this whole experience. And one of the biggest things I was told was what I was looking at here was, was the source of all creation, you know, this was God. This was not like God as I always figured God would look like. Not that I thought about it that much. I thought that God would be like the guy on the ceiling of the Vatican in Rome, you know, with a long gray beard reaching out to Adam. But no, this was huge tunnel of white light, and the energy coming off it, as it got closer, was just causing every single molecule of my body to vibrate with love. And it was just so it was pretty much at that point when I got this information, that I came crashing back into my body, you know. And I remember I was still smiling, you know, and I just come back into the hospital, back into the sort of, it seemed like, almost, it seemed really noisy all at once, you know, they just all the acoustics in that in that place, were just too much to deal with. And suddenly it was fluorescent strip that was in my eyes. I was just, Oh, there I was. I think that what I my big sort of lesson that I was learning on other side that the main person that I was doing any harm to was me. You know, it was me I was beating myself throughout the whole of my life. So instead of having a life review, I was having as this kind of session from these beautiful angels that were just like slowly taking away all the negative stuff, you know, that didn't belong to me as well. Why I thought? Why they send me back? That was great, you know. But you know what? It's interesting because a lot of people say, Oh, you must have felt really disappointed, but I wasn't, because I was just so full with all this beautiful energy and knowledge of love that I'd just been given, that I thought, right, you know, let's go. I was just about to be wheeled into theater at that point, so I knew I was going to go and have the huge operation. And then it was like, when I came around after eight and a half hours, I think it was, and I remember I was in on my own. They've given me a room on my own, which is great. And I was just now got this little machine just bleeping in the dark at 2am and it was like a little r2, d2, thing, you know? It's like, okay, there's my friend, you know? And part of me was obviously sort of dealing with the trauma of what had happened. Obviously, as you would do, you just been under a train, you know. But the main part of me was thinking, wow, what about that? How am I going to tell the world about this? Because at that stage, I'd never even heard of a near death experience, you know, spirituality didn't even come into my life. I was really scared I was going to forget about the whole thing as well, you know. So I remember my sister came to visit me. And she said to me, Look, she said, very quietly, Look, is there anything I can get you that I can bring in for you tomorrow? And I said, Yeah, can you get me a small sketch pad at a five, you know, and a pencil? And she went, Okay. I thought I've got to sketch out what I'd seen. I thought that's good. The best way I'm going to be able to tell people about this is I'm going to do some paintings. I'm going to and I've never done anything like this before, but I thought this is the best way to put it across. We're all here because we've got an incredible opportunity with me being part of the universe, and we are an important part of it, you know, because we live on one thing I felt about when I came back was that the planet Earth is just like that's heaven in itself. It's such a beautiful place. It's a beautiful planet. We've given a golden opportunity to live on this wonderful place. And I was very interested in watching stories on astronauts, but see what their take on was going out to space. You know, see what their take on was going out to space. You know, you stand on the moon and it's just murky, sort of white dust, and you look at the planet Earth, and it's like, wow, look at all those beautiful colors. So our mission is just to really try and enjoy what we've got. You know, not destroy it.
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