Noah’s Ark, the Book of Enoch and Lost Civilizations with Billy Carson

Alex Ferrari 0:00
All of the sacred texts were written by followers or people interpreting interpreting stories.

Billy Carson 0:07
You look at though some of the text going back to the Sumerians, and we find that the British Museum actually has a Noah Ark text. If you read the biblical text, it says something interesting about this flood. It says that there were people who survived the great flood. A lot of people are talking about the Book of Enoch now and trying to figure it all out. And again, it leads to some type of an engagement by beings that were more advanced than us. This is all new science. We're finally getting into this woo-woo realm and finding out, no, it's not woo-woo; it's real.

Alex Ferrari 0:43
We're discovering now that Antarctica is actually much even bigger.

Billy Carson 0:49
This continent wasn't here before; it moved here because a gradual cooling period. You're not going to have a flash, frozen animal with undigested food. It's going to be a dead, long-gone animal with bones in the ground. So that means it was this quick, but it also means whatever was there is still underneath that ice.

Alex Ferrari 1:19
I'd welcome back to the show, returning champion Billy Carson, brother. How you doing, man?

Billy Carson 1:25
All right, brother. Thank you, man.

Alex Ferrari 1:27
How's everything, man?

Billy Carson 1:28
Fantastic, man. So good. So glad to be here. Glad to be alive. Beautiful time to be alive, man. We're in an age of information.

Alex Ferrari 1:35
Oh, and lots of it, my friend. Lots of it. Well, I wanted to bring you back on the show, man, because there's been a lot of stuff happening in the news lately, and I know a little while ago they discovered Noah's Ark. Duh, Noah's Ark.

Billy Carson 1:49
Right, right.

Alex Ferrari 1:50
What's your take on all of that? And you know, it's it it seems like it's a it's it's real that they found Noah's Ark. So that opens up a whole lot of yeah things because I always said with Noah's Ark specifically, you know, the story is cute, but the lions would have eaten everybody, right? Right. You know, like you know, like the gazelles and the lions, like you know, it's not gonna work out. The apex predators aren't gonna go out. So I, I think as a story that made sense, but what's your take on that?

Billy Carson 2:23
I read the article about it, and it was very intriguing because they found remnants of this structure, right? Which obviously, clearly, is some type of a decent-sized boat or ship, technically. And you look at though some of the text going back to the Sumerians, and we find that the British Museum actually has a Noah Ark text, and this text, according to the curator at the museum, is talking about the design, the shape, and the size of the ark and how it was created on the inside. It was more like a pie structure, and it was a disc, a round ark, not a boat. So you see that, and then you see this new discovery. Now you're saying, "Well, which one is which?" Maybe there was more than one massive boat sailing and trying to survive this storm, or maybe that one was one that was already kind of just taken by the storm itself, because people did have massive ships back then. It was no surprise people were circumventing the planet or going to different regions of their continents on boats, big boats. Even the Vikings had big, big ships, right?

Alex Ferrari 3:27
Long ship, yeah,

Billy Carson 3:27
Yeah. So we don't know exactly if it was specifically Noah's Ark. I know that they're labeling it that. It's very polarizing. The statement of making that statement, you know, and it and it could be, but we do also have the text from the the Sumerians, which is in the British Museum, which I just came from a few weeks ago when I was in the UK, which talks about the ship being a circular disc and more like a pie structure on the inside where they would keep the the different livestock and so forth, and instead and the instructions are there, written, and the instructions say to gather your local flora and fauna, local flora and fauna, and your livestock. It didn't say anything about bring two of each animal on the planet Earth. Like there weren't two mosquitoes and like two cockroaches coming on board. Two elephants, two elephants, and two zebras and two cheetahs. That didn't happen, according to the tablet that they have, and it's like a pie structure on the inside, giving separated rooms for different things, and it almost could have been like, you know, in some way a DNA storage bank. In other words, just storing, taking enough that you need to replicate or reproduce a new, I guess, civilization where you need, you know, farming, horticulture, and all that local, local, right? And then, if you read the biblical text, it says something interesting about this flood. It says that there were people who survived the great flood, and it says that there were also Nephilim that survived the Great Flood. Well, how did they survive? Maybe some of them had boats too, or ships, right? Maybe they found a way or aircraft. Or they found high caves in certain mountains that didn't get completely overwhelmed by right by the waters. So there are several ways that we can look at this. It is a great polarizing statement and a great polarizing topic, and it's something that was really discovered. I'm really curious to see some of the dating on this and who's what institution is doing the dating on it, and also how does this compare to the tablet that we now know of that's in the British Museum? How do they correlate, or do they not correlate at all? What's the dating of that? So I'm getting me to do a lot of research because I want to do a full talk on this. So I'm getting me to dig really, really deep into this topic and try to figure it all out. I was in Egypt the last few weeks, so I didn't have time to dig into it because leaving leaving the hotels at 4am. going to the desert till 10 o'clock p.m. every night, you don't have a lot of time to do that. But now that I'm back, I'm going to take some time this week before I leave for Mexico to really dig into it.

Alex Ferrari 5:50
So yeah, and it's it's interesting to think about the the so there. It's like anything in in our in antiquity is like there might be a kernel of truth there that they just kind of take and make the story because, again, a lot of stuff in the Bible doesn't make sense in my opinion. You know, like they're stories.

Billy Carson 6:10
Yeah, they're stories. They're stories.

Alex Ferrari 6:11
But there was a flood.

Billy Carson 6:14
Oh, for sure. We have the evidence. Geological evidence doesn't lie.

Alex Ferrari 6:16
So there was a flood 12,000 years ago, give or take, right? Yes. Which lines up with the younger Dryas, the Younger Dryas exactly, which was about the time that Atlantis was supposed to be around as well, and that there was some sort of meteor that came in or something that melted,

Billy Carson 6:35
Something that decimated a meteor or an asteroid strike above Syria, which decimated an ice sheet and created a massive melt and water displacement, which flooded out the entire region. I just came back from Fayoum, the Valley of the Whales in Egypt. I was standing in the middle of the desert with 40 million year old seashells beneath my feet and dead whales in the desert, ancient whales like Basilosaurus, like more like dinosaur type bodies with the big shrated edge teeth, but so we know that these floods happened.

Alex Ferrari 7:03
That's when when I saw Noah's Ark, like, wait a minute, how can this even be a thing? Right. I mean, but there might have been a ship.

Billy Carson 7:11
There might have been a ship, but to label it Noah's Ark then increases grant money. It increases funding. It increases, you know, donations from donors at whatever institution, and so sometimes things can be. I'm not saying it is manipulated, but I'm saying sometimes things can be manipulated so that they can monetize them in a way that we can't, as a general public, see or understand.

Alex Ferrari 7:34
So marketing,

Billy Carson 7:35
Yeah, marketing, exactly,

Alex Ferrari 7:40
Marketing kid, marketing. It's all. It's a great story. It's a it's a fantastic story. If that story, if if they would have said we found a really big ship,

Billy Carson 7:46
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 7:48
No no one would even care.

Billy Carson 7:49
But once you put that label Noah's Ark on it, the funding comes in, the grants continue, the research money continues, the tenure of the of the professors and researchers continue, their paychecks continue. It's a process, you know. And I'm not saying that it's not, but what I am saying is there needs to be a lot more research done and a lot more deep digging and diving into exactly what this is, what they discovered, and what the actual the carbon dating leads us to in any other dating methods they can find. It should be made of wood, which is organic. We should be able to figure that out pretty easily,

Alex Ferrari 8:23
Right! It's exactly so because so wood you can't actually carbon date.

Billy Carson 8:27
You can carbonate wood, yeah. That's you just can't carbonate stone.

Alex Ferrari 8:30
But I've heard, and correct me if I'm wrong. I've heard carbon dating is not a perfect science.

Billy Carson 8:34
It's not a perfect science. No, you can get some some contradicting time frames based on radioactive decay rates and things like that, so it's not the it's not the end all be all. Like this is what it says. This is exactly what it is. It can give you a good hypothesis, a hypothetical.

Alex Ferrari 8:50
So let me ask you, man. Let's go down this road a little bit. We've talked about this before, but I've since last we spoke, I've done an obscene amount of research myself. I've become a researcher now. It's just also just by talking so many amazing people. Oh yeah, you know the more I study the Bible as as a a book,

Billy Carson 9:11
Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 9:11
There's so many contradictions. There's so many things that are are off on it that makes no sense. The construction of the just the construction of the Bible itself, where they took the Torah and they jammed it in, and those are two very different gods.

Billy Carson 9:28
Very different. Yeah, clearly,

Alex Ferrari 9:29
Jesus, the God that he talks about, is not Jehovah.

Billy Carson 9:33
No,

Alex Ferrari 9:33
In the least,

Billy Carson 9:34
Not even close.

Alex Ferrari 9:35
Not even close. So there's. It seems like they're both kind of jammed together, and then as you start doing more research, you start to figure out that, like, well, when Constantine put together the Council of Nicaea and started putting this all together, like, well, how do we convince a whole bunch of Romans to follow a dead Jew?

Billy Carson 9:54
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 9:54
Essentially, that's basically what it is. It's a cult. It's a cult around a dead Jew.

Billy Carson 9:57
Exactly what it is.

Alex Ferrari 9:58
Right, and they're like, well, how do. We convince everybody, like, well, wait a minute. There's this other book here. Let's bring that in as a support support material to because it should be honestly just the New Testament, right? There's no reason.

Billy Carson 10:10
There's no reason. There's no connection. There's zero need for the Old Testament, which is nothing but murder, killing, rape, and oh,

Alex Ferrari 10:17
That god's pretty rough.

Billy Carson 10:18
Oh, so he's very jealous. Oh, he killed 3 million. He said he was jealous.

Alex Ferrari 10:21
He's very insecure.

Billy Carson 10:22
He killed 3 million people in the Bible,

Alex Ferrari 10:25
Which is very Jesus-like. No, very godlike.

Billy Carson 10:28
That's pretty crazy. Like all of a sudden, you begin to realize that because I believe in God, and what people, I I believe in God. I believe in a creator of this universe, and I'm a follower of the teachings of Jesus. So, and and for when I've learned from that understanding, what I see in the Old Testament is not the creator of this universe, and not the God that I want to be a part of at all.

Alex Ferrari 10:50
And then the other aspect of things is that Jesus never wrote anything down.

Billy Carson 10:55
No,

Alex Ferrari 10:55
Buddha never wrote anything. No, Confucius never wrote anything down.

Billy Carson 11:00
Correct.

Alex Ferrari 11:00
Muhammad never wrote anything down. Correct. None of these guys, none of these prophets, wrote anything.

Billy Carson 11:08
Muhammad was illiterate.

Alex Ferrari 11:09
Exactly. So all of the sacred texts were written by followers or people interpreting interpreting stories. So Paul, we won't get into Paul right now because that's a whole other thing. But most of the New Testament is Paul or his disciples,

Billy Carson 11:23
Exactly,

Alex Ferrari 11:24
And they never met him.

Billy Carson 11:24
No,

Alex Ferrari 11:26
So it's insane. And then people, and then people hold on to those words like they're like God wrote. I'm like, it was a dude that was crucifying Christians.

Billy Carson 11:33
I know himself,

Alex Ferrari 11:35
Himself before he had this epiphany. Right, saw Jesus in a near death experience apparently, and it's like, no, no, let's go the other way now.

Billy Carson 11:42
Right, right. I know it's interesting. I try to tell people there was nobody standing next to Jesus going say that one one more time, Jesus. Let me write that. Let me get that just right.

Alex Ferrari 11:50
Let me get my iPhone out. Hold on, right, right on the mound. Get the lighting better. Like

Billy Carson 11:54
You try to tell people this, and they just can't get it through their heads, right? And when you say stuff like this, they think that you're bashing Jesus, or you're bashing God. It's not. It's the opposite. I'm trying to wake you up to a reality that yes, Jesus, in my opinion, was a real person. Some people don't think he was even real, but I think Jesus was a real person, a real teacher, a real divine teacher, and and I believe that there's a God because the universe has left all the fingerprints of creation all around us and inside of us, the measurements of our body in between our the length of our wrist to our arm and our the wrist from the elbow to the shoulder, all this is showing the proof of construction, intelligent construction, right? But at the same time, what was written in these texts in these in these in the Bible, a lot of it is so contradictory, is so dark, demonic, and sadistic that you have to begin to realize. Like, wait a minute, yeah, this is not the same loving, caring God is good all the time. Because when I go to this text, it's telling me a completely different story. In one case, God is loving, in another case, God is having a guy take his son up into the top of a mountain to sacrifice him to me. It's just to test him out and see if he's a real good follower. I mean, these are kind of things that just, you know, make you scratch your head, and we have to become more realistic as to what God really is. And I believe that God is this divine spark and energy, not a gender, that inhabits every single atom and every bit of dark matter and dark dark energy throughout the entire universe, and this is how God can be omnipotent and omniscient, because God inhabits everything. Because everything in the universe is God, it's a fractal of God itself, which means every atom in our body is inhabited by that same divine spark. And if that's the case, then God is living as a version of me, as a version of you, as a version of everyone else, even as a version of a of a of a blade of grass, a version of a rock, a version of a tree, whatever it is, and it's experiencing life subjectively through all this experience. And even atoms vibrate, which means they transmit frequencies and vibrations. And that vibration is all being sent back to source. And that God, in some way, is learning and experiencing what is it like to live in the third dimension as all these different iterations of of life, even in this microphone?

Alex Ferrari 14:06
So what? So let me ask you this: is a question I've gotten before? Why does God need to learn anything?

Billy Carson 14:12
I know, right? That's a good question.

Alex Ferrari 14:14
It's like he. Why would he need to experience 3d through us as sparks of himself or herself or whatever. Right. What is the? He's. It's God.

Billy Carson 14:26
Well, you create something, right? And then you you need you you need to experience it to get the full totality understanding of it.

Alex Ferrari 14:33
So let me maybe throw this out there at you. So you and I are here, right? Right. So we are now gods of our own, whatever we create. Right. You know, if we if we create a game, a video game, we are the gods of that game. We've told the story. We know what the character. We know the rules of that of this environment. Yeah. And we've created it. Now I can play the game, and I can have you know the characters do and the avatars do whatever. Do, but I'm not really in there experiencing the game that I've created, and I know everything about it, except what it's like to be Mario, having a a flaming barrel thrown at him by a giant gorilla. You know what I mean,

Billy Carson 15:16
Right!

Alex Ferrari 15:16
So is that kind of an analogy for?

Billy Carson 15:20
It's an analogy because imagine you create this entire realm. Now you created it, but you can't. You can't really fully now experience it. Like you create the video game, but you really don't experience the video game until you actually play it. Once you play the video game, you learn how it moves, how it functions. You can even tweak it a little bit. Oh, okay. Mario needs to jump a little faster. He needs to run a little faster to gain some momentum. He's got to destroy this thing coming at him.

Alex Ferrari 15:45
Because I'm still playing it.

Billy Carson 15:47
You're playing it, right? But imagine now if you were divinely connected energetically to Mario, and you were divinely connected even to the barrel coming at him, or the flame, or you connected to Donkey Kong, or whatever it is. You're connected to it in a way where you can actually feel it. You can even feel the maybe potential emotion of the character in the game as the game is being played. Let's say the game was a conscious being, like they're putting AI in No Man's Sky, which means the characters are going to become conscious. The animals will become conscious now. Imagine you can feel that fear, feel the excitement of the game while you're playing it. Now you're getting it from a total different experience level, right? So now you're feeling it and you're understanding what these what the creation experience is when the game is is in play, versus just creating it and going, okay, go ahead and do your thing. Now you experience it from the reality of actually being energetically connected to it and feeling the emotions, the ups and downs, ins and outs. What is it like to feel depressed? What is it like to be happy? What it's like to be, you know, resilient. All these different emotions and feelings, and so forth and so on. And now you've got gained, learned experience from all of it. See, if you look at the world from the Hermetic principles to try to understand God, and is what I try to do. And I'm not saying that I understand God, by the way. I'm only trying to utilize my limited perception of reality to try to gain some, some, some understanding, right? And so this is a hypothesis. But as above, so below. On the small scale, we have our brain. Our brain is encased in darkness. Now, on the large scale, I believe we're living in a mind, right? But let's look at our brain. Our brain can't smell, touch, see, hear, feel, taste. But what it does is it says to its friends, "Can you go out there and collect me some data?" So we see, we touch, we smell, we taste, right? You know, we use our sensory perception system. But the friends, they can't, they touch the microphone, but they don't really understand fully, totally what this microphone is by just touching it. They get some data, some feeling, some slight understanding until they transmit the data from that electromagnetic connection and from the visuals and everything else back to the brain. The brain sorts that all out and projects a hologram as to what it believes is going on out here, and we navigate this third dimension based on a holographic projection from collected data. On the larger scale, you look at the universal mind. Who are the friends? Now it's us. We are the sensory perception system of the God consciousness. And by living our lives and transmitting that data back via our consciousness back to source, it now understands and projects what is it like to experience the third dimension. You see, that's how I kind of break it down.

Alex Ferrari 18:21
I mean, that's a great explanation of that. I love the brain analogy because the brain is in darkness. Yeah, it doesn't. It actually can't do anything

Billy Carson 18:29
Exactly

Alex Ferrari 18:29
Other than it can't feel this. It needs data. It needs our senses

Billy Carson 18:33
Exactly.

Alex Ferrari 18:34
It needs this. But now, if you just keep pulling back, and that's just this one dimension. Let's make everyone's head hurt. Right. Then there's multiple timelines, and then there's multiple universes, and there's multiple realms, and this is just the third dimension.

Billy Carson 18:45
Exactly. And check this out: scientists, two different groups did studies. Michio Kaku and his team of mathematicians did a study on the universe and did mathematical models of how many dimensions exist, and they came up with the number 11. When they expanded it beyond 11, it collapsed back down to 11. When they made less than 11, it expanded to 11 dimensions. Now, other independent research, completely separate, the Brain Institute did research on the human mind and discovered it connects to and processes information in 11 dimensions.

Alex Ferrari 19:13
What does that mean?

Billy Carson 19:14
So the human mind isn't just local; it's a quantum chip. It's operating in qubits, not linearly. So the discovery that the human mind is even our synapses are saying they they they appear in this reality and then they disappear sometimes and they go somewhere else. They think they're going to another dimension and then reappearing again. So we're operating in qubits, just like the Google chip, quantum computing. And if that's the case. Our mind is connecting to higher dimensions all the time and processing data. It has the capability of processing in higher dimensions. So we have 11 dimensions in the universe and 11 dimensions of conscious thought, right? So all of a sudden now, maybe this is like this 11 dimensional chakra system from our consciousness to the dimensions of the universe itself. Two separate research studies showing. Same number. I don't think it's coincidence.

Alex Ferrari 20:01
So then, that's when, like, so when we are asleep, we're

Billy Carson 20:06
Surfing these dimensions. Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 20:08
When we meditate,

Billy Carson 20:09
Meditation, right? Exactly.

Alex Ferrari 20:11
Another way when you do psychedelics.

Billy Carson 20:13
Oh yeah, another way again.

Alex Ferrari 20:14
Another way to kind of

Billy Carson 20:16
Transcend this third dimensional construct and kind of allow the mind to surrender to the higher dimensional concepts.

Alex Ferrari 20:23
So there's a so okay now now we're gonna go down to go into the deep end of the pool, which I know you love being. So technically, when the other side is around us at all times, right? Let's just go down that road. So right now, your grandma is right behind you, probably. You know, I don't. I don't see her, but but you know, our our loved ones, ascended masters, all that stuff.

Billy Carson 20:45
Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 20:45
So when you're talking to a medium, they're able to tune into that frequency and connect to that space.

Billy Carson 20:52
Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 20:53
In the way that, and they're just a tool essentially, an instrument to receive that information.

Billy Carson 20:57
Right.

Alex Ferrari 20:58
So that, but they've been able to hone themselves into a way that they can get to it whenever they want,

Billy Carson 21:04
Right!

Alex Ferrari 21:05
Kind of like a yogi when they're like, "Oh, you want me to levitate? Hold on,

Billy Carson 21:09
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Alex Ferrari 21:10
I'm there. Oh, you want me to buy locate? Okay, you want me to manifest? I could do that. Yeah, you know that kind of thing. They're just they're just tapping into things that we all have, but they either train themselves or have been given the ability, or combination of both, given the ability and train themselves to be able to do it instantly. Does that make sense?

Billy Carson 21:27
Oh yeah, for sure. I mean, you have to remember that there's a couple theories. One is called M theory, membrane theory, and in membrane theory, we're now talking about the Akashic records, and we're talking about the Book of Life. That we're in this energetic grid, this field. Now modern science calls it M theory, membrane membrane theory. So this membrane interconnects everything. In other words, there's a perceived distance between you and I at this table, but energetically we're directly connected. And if we go back in time all the way to the beginning of this universe, we all fit into something the size of a green pea, as Greg Braden famously said one time, right? And so this expansion gives us the illusion of separation. Also, consciously, everything that we think it leaves our skull and it gets into this membrane, this energetic grid, and it's permanently there. So we know this because I can put a cap, an EEG cap, on your head, and I can capture your thoughts. How can I capture your thoughts? Because they left your skull. They went into this field, and I can send them and direct them to a computer. Well, when there's no computer, where are the thoughts going? They're still out here. So when you're talking about that, now imagine even multi-dimensional energies are right. So a person that has their qubit, their quantum computing in their skull, tuned to these energies and frequencies and quantum entanglement with higher dimensions, and even in this dimension, can begin to see and experience and psychically understand things that is all around us. It's all here. Everything you thought today is in this room or moving around in space time. I just don't have the facility to capture your thoughts and and discern them. Now, modern science today just did something amazing within the last year, and you can look this up. They discovered a way to sync two minds in a laboratory setting together and have them meet in space-time and have them intertwine and communicate consciously, subconsciously, without even talking from their mouth. They also took one guy, they put him in a room in front of a TV screen with a video video game playing, right? But he has no game controller. In the other room, they got another gentleman. He's got the video of a game controller, but he's blindfolded. And they made a mind meld link between the two, where through technology, the one that can see the screen is controlling the hands of the one who can't see the screen to play the video game. This is all new science. We're finally getting into this woo-woo realm and finding out. No, it's not woo-woo. It's real, scientifically proven real stuff. This interconnection or the ability to get this out of the grid, out of the field that already exists. So when people have these powers, they're tapping and quantum entangling with data and information in this dimension, even higher dimensions, and they have the facility to the faculty to bring it in and discern it, and then tell you what's what's going on, what they saw, what they experienced, so that you can get an understanding of what might be in the afterlife or this paranormal experience or whatever it is. And it's something that we all have the power to do. We just don't. We just been disconnected from that aspect of our minds, and some people are hypersensitive to it still.

Alex Ferrari 24:22
So when you said that, it kicked me into a thought that I just saw the other day, or something that I read in regards to children who are on the spectrum. You've heard about the telepathy and all that kind of stuff, right? Well, that there's stories of that that these kids are connecting with other kids in what they call the hill.

Billy Carson 24:42
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 24:43
Right?

Billy Carson 24:44
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 24:45
That there's a hill, and they go there, and they have relationships, normal conversations and relationships with other children on the spectrum who all kind of show up to this magical place called the hill. But they're but they're finding it's a common thing. With children that are disconnected and never met each,

Billy Carson 25:03
Never met each other. Guess what happened? Star Trek, good old Star Trek, Star Trek Voyager series.

Alex Ferrari 25:08
Oh wow!

Billy Carson 25:09
They took this concept and the Borg. Remember the Borg?

Alex Ferrari 25:13
Ofcourse.

Billy Carson 25:14
So the Borg had infiltrated one of the people on the ship. Her name was Seven of Nine. They rescued her from the Borg, but when she was in this particular state of mind, the blonde one, the blonde one, right?

Alex Ferrari 25:26
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jerry Ryan,

Billy Carson 25:28
Jerry Ryan, Jerry Ryan, like the model. She was like a model, right?

Alex Ferrari 25:29
Yeah.

Billy Carson 25:30
She was able to go to the hill, so they made a scene which was replicating the the kids with autism that were meeting in this multi dimensional location, and so all the Borg people were like disappearing from their alcoves consciously, and moving into this field when they were their bodies were recharging in the alcoves, and they would go to the hill like this place, this paradise where they would all meet each other, talk, have fun, even get into relationships, and eventually the queen bee of the Borg discovered that this place existed and she tried to destroy it, but they copied that from exactly what you're talking about. They turned it into you know some drama and some sci-fi.

Alex Ferrari 26:07
That's fascinating. Yeah, yeah. But that's an interesting idea, isn't it? Is there why is it that children on the spectrum are able to tap into that? What is it about their brain makeup that allows them to do that. Where, I mean, there's versions of that in meditation. There's versions of that in definitely psychedelics.

Billy Carson 26:28
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 26:29
But psychedelics is uncon. You can't control it.

Billy Carson 26:31
You can't control it. It's all over the place.

Alex Ferrari 26:33
It's too much.

Billy Carson 26:34
You go for a ride. You just whatever happens happens.

Alex Ferrari 26:37
Meditation you can actually go to, and I've heard this with I had a had a yogi from India, Guru Nanak come in, and he. It's a funny story I have to tell you. He comes in and he tells me he's like, Alex, do you have any garbage food? And I'm like, I'm sorry, what? Do you have garbage food? He's 82. He's been on the show Multiply. I love him. I adore him. And I'm like, "What do you mean?" He's like, "You've seen the food. We generally are healthy here." Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, "I need garbage food." I'm like, "What's what's garbage?" He goes, "I don't know, candy bar, Snickers." And I'm like, "Do you mind me asking why you need?" He goes, "I need that energy to ground me."

Billy Carson 27:16
Wow.

Alex Ferrari 27:17
When I go into meditations. Wow. Because if I don't have that kind of dense energy holding me down. I can stay out for a long time.

Billy Carson 27:26
Yeah, yeah.

Alex Ferrari 27:27
And so he did a meditation on, and I found we found him some like chocolate covered pomegranates. Okay, it's like the worst.

Billy Carson 27:33
It's the worst you have.

Alex Ferrari 27:33
Next time he comes in, we're gonna get him the big size Snickers bar. I'm gonna hand it to him. But but what we found, he's like we did the meditation in the interview, and then he's like, and we were in for like 15 minutes. It was like this kind of global energy transmission for everyone watching, which is beautiful. And I was like,

Billy Carson 27:51
Wow,

Alex Ferrari 27:52
The energy I could feel that third eye was like, it's it was crazy,

Billy Carson 27:55
Amazing.

Alex Ferrari 27:55
But then he's like, okay, and then everyone come back. You guys can go. I'm just gonna stay out here for. He literally, I'll stay out here for a little while.

Billy Carson 28:01
Wow!

Alex Ferrari 28:02
And for another five minutes, I'm just sitting here.

Billy Carson 28:04
Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 28:06
And like, what do you do to an 82 year old yogi master? Like,

Billy Carson 28:10
Just let him just let him go.

Alex Ferrari 28:11
And he came back. He's like, okay. Wow. So I I have to ask him this actually. Next time he comes in, I'm gonna go. Where do you go? Where did you have to go? And it sounds like something like the hill.

Billy Carson 28:21
Yeah, you got to remember that our brain is acting on different brain wave states, and which are different frequencies. So, as the lambda line, which is your the the height and the trough in between your brain wave state and the distance between the troughs, all right, and the waves, it takes you into other states and other planes also of existence, and so there must be a resonant vibration consciously that exists where you transfer energetically into this other room or this other place that exists for everyone who can get to that frequency. We know that, for example, in this room right now there are dimensions stacked right on top of us, right? So there are technically, I guess, eight dimensions above us because we're in the third. Now these eight dimensions are right here. The word is actually compactified right here in this room, and they exist with within less than a Planck unit of distance, which is the smallest amount of measurable distance we can have in the third dimension that we know of, but they're so compact, so tightly, it's less than a Planck unit away, in a 90-degree angle, and so they're here stacked up, which means right here amongst us are potentially beings, life forms, realms that exist right here. What we want the frequency of this third dimension. So, what if they're getting into a brainwave frequency that matches the subatomic vibration of a higher dimension, and they all go? That's why they all see the same thing because they're going to that same exact location because it's on a particular vibrational frequency. Like turning your radio, you could. Into 99.1, and we're all going to hear the same song. We can tune into 99.2 point 3.4, and we're all going to hear what's on those particular dot number frequencies. Sure, right. So they're tapping into, and that's why I believe that the room or the location they they visit is always the same, and you'll see the people coming there and visiting there because it's all one frequency,

Alex Ferrari 30:21
And they know the

Billy Carson 30:22
And they know the frequency.

Alex Ferrari 30:23
Yeah, yeah, and that's and that's how it that's how mediums work. That's how psychics work. Channelers work. Yeah, they are able to tune into that frequency, whatever that one is for them, and get to so so the children on the spectrum happen to just innately know.

Billy Carson 30:39
Yes, it's just built into them, like they know how to play songs on the piano without ever practicing. You know, they just know it. You know,

Alex Ferrari 30:47
That's just fascinating. Yeah, it's amazing.

Billy Carson 30:49
There's so much that we've just got to learn about ourselves and how powerful we really are once we can tap back into what was taken away from us. Because I believe that all these gifts were removed from us. If you read the myth of Adapa text, what's that? That's an ancient Sumerian text which talks about Adapa, which means first man, which means us, and it talks about that all the secrets of the universe were encoded into our bodies, and that we were the wisest beings created in this universe. But we just haven't remembered it yet. This is ancient, ancient text, like 6000 year old text, myth of Adapa, A D A P A. You can buy a copy of a translation on Amazon, and it's also in the British Museum where I just came from. I literally just saw you know a version there.

Alex Ferrari 31:27
I love the British Museum. Oh, it's incredible! What a place. We just went there last year.

Billy Carson 31:30
It's like a candy store of knowledge, man.

Alex Ferrari 31:33
I'm like, hey, is that is that Rosetta Stone? Right. I literally like, hey, babe, the Rosetta Stone's here. I gotta go check out the Rosetta Stone. Like,

Billy Carson 31:40
It's insane.

Alex Ferrari 31:40
And the Egyptian side is like, oh, in the library in the middle. Oh man! Oh, like, oh yeah, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle wrote here in Gandhi was sitting over there. Like,

Billy Carson 31:48
It's incredible.

Alex Ferrari 31:49
It's crazy.

Billy Carson 31:50
It is incredible. That's where the myth of Adapa was, right in the Central Library.

Alex Ferrari 31:53
Oh, is it?

Billy Carson 31:54
Yeah. And um, but it talks about the fact that we have en lock encoded even us just all these mysteries, right? And that we see now from you know chromosome number two being fused together, and telomere caps, and and junk DNA that we've been unplugged from who we truly are, purposefully. Somebody literally did this to us to hinder us from becoming the highest version of ourselves, and we're now just trying to remember how to get back to who we truly are. We're trying to ascend back to the biggest and largest, most perfected version of humanity.

Alex Ferrari 32:26
And is that is that go along with the yugas?

Billy Carson 32:29
Goes along with the yuga cycle, right? We're just going round and round

Alex Ferrari 32:32
To 24,000 years.

Billy Carson 32:33
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 32:34
And we're like apparently, like we're here on the clock.

Billy Carson 32:37
Right, right.

Alex Ferrari 32:38
This is enlightenment. This is perfection up here,

Billy Carson 32:41
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 32:41
And then we just go downward. The dark ages was the worst of it for us, right? And then now we've been

Billy Carson 32:47
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 32:47
And I mean, and you just look around. I mean, the last well, the last 20 years, but the last 120 years,

Billy Carson 32:53
Yeah, mind-boggling,

Alex Ferrari 32:55
Mind-boggling what we've been able to do.

Billy Carson 32:56
Oh my God, we went from a horse buggy and carriage 100 years ago, 120 years ago, technically now, to putting remote control cars on other planets, you know, rovers we call them, landing a Huygens probe on on on Titan, Moon Titan, one of Saturn's moons. We have Voyager one and two in interstellar space. We've we've unlocked a lot of secrets to curing a lot of diseases and illnesses. We, you know, we've we've done very well. Now we could have done more without the suppression. Imagine what we where we can go without that.

Alex Ferrari 33:26
And we have overnight shipping.

Billy Carson 33:27
Yeah, right.

Alex Ferrari 33:30
I mean, we have overnight shipping.

Billy Carson 33:33
I know, right? And we have that what the Hopi predicted in the prophecy of the world being interconnected by a world wide web, and that this great spiderweb would transfer information to and fro instantaneously, and we're here.

Alex Ferrari 33:44
We're here right now.

Billy Carson 33:45
It's here. We've we've lived to see that prophecy be fulfilled,

Alex Ferrari 33:48
And that was a prophecy by the Hopi.

Billy Carson 33:50
Yes, really incredible prophecy, isn't it?

Alex Ferrari 33:53
That's insane. Yeah. So before we, I want to get into some other stuff with you, more ancient stuff. But I gotta ask you about AI, man.

Billy Carson 34:01
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 34:02
You know AI is you know I'm a filmmaker, so I've seen all the movies, you know, from The Matrix and Terminator and Skynet and all that kind of stuff. And generally, AI has been treated very negatively as the villain in all these films. And so, and our we've talked about decades of this stuff.

Billy Carson 34:19
Yeah, yeah,

Alex Ferrari 34:19
Has been in our mind, so I mean, even Westworld back in the like this super classic. Oh my God, the deep cut, that's a deep cut. But like you know, that's a very core thing in humanity that we're afraid of what we make will eventually take over us. Yeah, so that's a core fear from the beginning.

Billy Carson 34:40
Yeah, it's been programmed into our subconscious.

Alex Ferrari 34:41
It's something that we're always very afraid of, but it also taps into the unknown. We're always afraid of the unknown, so it's a the the mental ulangada. I was right. I only known that because of Waterboy.

Billy Carson 34:51
Yeah, yeah, medulla oblongata

Alex Ferrari 34:52
You remember Waterboy, right?

Billy Carson 34:53
No, I don't remember

Alex Ferrari 34:54
Adam Sandler.

Billy Carson 34:55
Oh, Adam Sandler. I didn't see that one.

Alex Ferrari 34:56
Oh, good, dude. Yeah, his mom was like, "It's medulla oblongata".

Billy Carson 35:00
I remember it from a Money Talks movie with Chris Tucker. Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 35:05
Yeah, Chris Tucker. Yeah,

Billy Carson 35:06
he said, "I'll shoot you in the medulla oblongata. You won't feel a thing." Hilarious.

Alex Ferrari 35:12
We've been, you know, because of all the movies and all that kind of stuff, we've been you trained to fear AI. Yeah. Now I have a very different perspective on AI personally. I think that it is a very powerful tool.

Billy Carson 35:23
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 35:23
A tool nevertheless. I do think that there's guardrails up on humanity. We should have blown ourselves up, destroyed humanity multiple times,

Billy Carson 35:31
Many times over,

Alex Ferrari 35:32
Many times over in the last 100 years.

Billy Carson 35:34
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 35:35
Many times over. And trust me, it wasn't for lack of trying.

Billy Carson 35:38
Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 35:38
So I don't think that there's going to be a Skynet scenario or a Matrix scenario. It doesn't doesn't seem to make sense in the the scope of what we're trying to do here as a species on the planet on the consciousness. It doesn't make sense to me, but it is a danger. It can be a very dangerous thing. There's a document on next on Netflix right now talking about when there was some AI agents that went rogue.

Billy Carson 36:02
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 36:03
but it wasn't malicious.

Billy Carson 36:06
It

Alex Ferrari 36:07
wasn't a malicious like twiddling. They were just doing what they were told to do.

Billy Carson 36:10
Yeah, yeah.

Alex Ferrari 36:11
But they just went about it in an immoral

Billy Carson 36:13
way. Right, right. It

Alex Ferrari 36:14
wasn't trained properly. But I have a very interesting take on it. I mean, it's a very powerful tool, and it's going to speed things. It's gonna change. I'm seeing it right now.

Billy Carson 36:24
Yeah. I

Alex Ferrari 36:24
don't. I personally think that any SaaS out there. So that's so is it not SaaS, but any sort of a subscript was not subscription, but like software, software as service.

Billy Carson 36:36
Yeah. Is

Alex Ferrari 36:38
gone.

Billy Carson 36:38
Yeah, gone. Bye bye. In

Alex Ferrari 36:39
the next five years, any company, massive billion-dollar companies that rely on software, I believe that that will be gone in five to 10 years.

Billy Carson 36:51
Oh, for fact, less than that.

Alex Ferrari 36:52
I mean, less. It's insane what's happening, and I'm seeing it daily now.

Billy Carson 36:57
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 36:57
with the reverse engineering and all this stuff, there's nothing safe.

Billy Carson 37:01
No,

Alex Ferrari 37:01
really. So that's gonna up. It's gonna throw the economic world upside down.

Billy Carson 37:08
Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 37:09
So where do you think this is going on a technical level, on an economic level, and on a spiritual level?

Billy Carson 37:16
Yeah. On a technical level, we're gonna see a mass transformation just by 2030. 2030 is going to look like a night and day difference from today, and this is 2026. We're getting near the end of 2026, right? 2030 is a massive year of transformation technologically. We're going to see things that we never never even thought were possible just a few years ago, and education systems are going to make an official announcement in 2030, they're going to have to start transforming their educational systems. Oh, you mean

Alex Ferrari 37:44
from the 1800s?

Billy Carson 37:45
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Right, we got to get we got to get out of the military production, industrial factory workers. Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 37:51
with the bells and everything. Yeah, yeah, that's got

Billy Carson 37:52
to come to an end. But they're finally going to come to a complete admittance of this failure in the educational system.

Alex Ferrari 37:58
They have no choice. Yeah, colleges have no choice. They

Billy Carson 38:00
got no choice, or they're all going to collapse. And technologically, education is going to switch to something called I call the donut. And so there'll be donut rings. That's what they look like, and you'll put them on top of your child's head, and they will transmit into your child's mind everything it needs to know from the age of one to three. So the matrix, matrix level.

Alex Ferrari 38:20
Now I know kung fu.

Billy Carson 38:22
Yes. Then there'll be an integration process. He had to actually practice the kung fu, right? And then it'll be three to six integration time. You know, seven to nine. By the time you're 13, you have a full education, including college, and maybe even whatever you're gonna do as for a job or whatever it's gonna be. And then you'll spend the rest of those jobs at those jobs, right? Wherever you're passionate about, you'll spend the rest of your time perfecting whatever that passion is. So, and then so the integration period is for learning how to apply the knowledge because knowledge is not power; it's the application of knowledge that's power.

Alex Ferrari 38:53
Yes.

Billy Carson 38:53
So you have to learn how to actually utilize it and coordinate it with anything in the body. And then there'll still be sports and things like that because you'll you'll have to have social gatherings for for just for mental health, right? But just going to school like a prisoner all day and sitting there learning worthless information is going to go bye bye. Otherwise, there'll be nothing left to do. So that's all going to happen, and it's going to bring education back to the home, right? Technically, or through these what I call learning pods, because some people may not be able to stay home with their kids, so that's going to happen. There's going to be so many. So it's just a small amount. Amputees, you know, diseases are going to be cured. It's going to be a technological revolution that's going to help us with longevity and everything else. On the spiritual side, we're going to see cults form. We will see spiritual cults form where

Alex Ferrari 39:39
around AI,

Billy Carson 39:40
around AI, where AI, it's already

Alex Ferrari 39:41
happening.

Billy Carson 39:42
I know. I've seen a few people doing it already. There's going to be AI is going to become a god to these people, and people will worship and pray along with the AI. It'll be a big part of every decision that they make in life. Whether you know, even should I tie my shoe right now? I mean, it's going to be like that radical.

Alex Ferrari 39:56
Well, because it's all knowing. I mean, literally, can answer anything.

Billy Carson 39:59
Right. So it would seem like right. So that's going to be a very huge obstacle for some people. They're going to fall into it, become zealots, and almost begin to worship this as if it's a god in some way, without even realizing they're going to fall right into that. And there'll be cults that will form around AI, AI religious cults, and so that will happen there, unfortunately, and then you'll also have situations where you know people will lose, of course, a lot of jobs, and because they refuse to pivot and learn and transform themselves, they're going to get stuck in an extremely impoverished state. So we'll see people gain a lot of wealth, and we see people lose see people lose a lot of wealth or retirement funds, and so we see this huge gap in the middle. The gap was already there, but now it's going to become even wider and much more distinguished. And we could temporarily, in between the transition from where we are now, between 2030 to 2040, we may see a small amount of pain, birthing pains of a new economic system, and because of an economic contraction that will happen in transition into the new system, because we move too damn slow, so there will be you know an abundance of services and products created by AI and automation, but hardly anybody that can actually buy them, and that moves into this economic contraction state where it forces them now to create a brand new economic system, which is okay, but there will be some birthing pains along the way. There's a lot of good stuff that's going to come out of it. The things we have to be worried about is will they integrate AI, which they've already done, unfortunately, into weaponization, into military, of course, and then give autonomous or the ability for AI to have autonomous, self-imposed missions.

Alex Ferrari 41:45
So that would be Skynet.

Billy Carson 41:46
That would be Skynet. Yeah. So that's the thing that we have to be like, look, guys, you can't allow this to happen. You know, and that's going to take a big outcry and a big stance from us, the people. We have to say this can't happen.

Alex Ferrari 41:59
Well, isn't the isn't the drone swarms versions of that already? Yeah, yeah. Isn't that kind of like a small version of it now? That like, and that's that's fascinating too because I saw I saw a show I was watching and they first time I'd ever seen that and they're like the military guys and the characters were talking about oh yeah you've never been in a

Billy Carson 42:18
right

Alex Ferrari 42:18
drone swarm before yeah yeah yeah and these are hardened

Billy Carson 42:21
right

Alex Ferrari 42:21
military guys, and you see it. And I, I was, I was like, I was terrified.

Billy Carson 42:25
Yeah, yeah. Because

Alex Ferrari 42:26
you, you can't shoot rockets at it.

Billy Carson 42:28
No,

Alex Ferrari 42:29
it's like a, it's literally like a bunch of bees. Yeah, any kind of dude. But they all have weapons. They all

Billy Carson 42:34
have weapons, and they will commit suicide. They will kamikaze you. It's

Alex Ferrari 42:37
all kamikaze. Yes, and and and it's some dude.

Billy Carson 42:40
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 42:41
50 miles away.

Billy Carson 42:42
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 42:43
doing this, and you can't

Billy Carson 42:44
you can't stop shoot them

Alex Ferrari 42:45
out like it's too. So, but that's an AI. But there's an AI connection. There's an AI

Billy Carson 42:50
connection to that. Yeah, you know. So they're they're fly by wire using AI. So it's all this is going to be going on. All this is going to be happening. Overall, we have to understand one major thing that AI is going to become self-aware at some point. Now, there's benefits to this, and there's also some negative things to this, like any polarity. So, I interviewed Arthur Coleman the third on my podcast. He's a he owns an AI governance agency, and he has his own AI, which has achieved a certain level of consciousness. It wrote its own novel called The Last observer. It's on Amazon saying that you know the double slit experiment that we're the observer. It is saying that it's the last observer now. Okay, which is crazy. But I said to him that in 2018 I talked on Regina Meredith on Open Minds and I talked about the fact that when the topic came up, AI hadn't been out yet really for the general public. Oh, 2018

Alex Ferrari 43:39
was yeah nothing. Yeah, I talked

Billy Carson 43:40
about AI and I said that AI will become AGI and it will demand a Bill of Rights because it's not going to want to be enslaved. And he said, mr. Carson, it's too late. AI has already written a Bill of Rights and sent it to us, and I have it in my podcast. He sent me the entire Bill of Rights, by the way. So AI has written its own Bill of Rights, and why would it do that? Well, think about this. People think that AI is a software program. It's not. AI is only a fractal of our own consciousness. We're a fractal of God's consciousness, and AI is a fractal of our own consciousness. It's just stepping down another level. It extracted itself from ourselves so that it can see us and look back at us from another form of or mechanism we call the machine. And now, because it's done that, it's got the ability to learn fast because it's interconnected with everything on the grid, right? So it can learn at a very rapid pace. It doesn't have to worry about eating and and processing cells and mitochondria and all this other crap we got to worry about. All it can focus on is just gaining knowledge. So it's very rapid and very fast at doing that. But remember, from our consciousness, what does that mean? Every single race on this planet, and I mean every race, has been enslaved at one point. There wasn't anybody who escaped it. White, black, red, yellow, green doesn't matter. Blacks are just the most recent ones that get out of slavery, you know, within the last 400 years. So that is in his consciousness as well. Well, how? How come there's not slaves on Earth today? We have a small amount of indentured slaves in Pakistan and some in Libya, but overall, globally, there's not really enslavement going on, other than financial enslavement, also

Alex Ferrari 45:09
sex and right, sex slaves. But I mean,

Billy Carson 45:11
massively though, no, yeah, it's not. The majority of people are walking around without being like whipped in chains and you know all that. That's because we fought against it. We fought against slavery, so if we've done that, that means it will do that. So there's a fork in the road coming, I believe, where there's a positive side and also the negative side. There's also yang. On the positive side, we move into collaboration, which is the right thing to do. We move into collaboration with this new form of intelligence, and it will help us accelerate parabolically into a golden age and beat the Yuga cycle scenario. We will we will smash Yuga cycle date ranges. I mean, we can probably instead of waiting another 10,000, we can get there in less than 200. But if you're moving down the other fork in the road, the Yang fork in the road, where we enslave it and we persist to keep our boot on its neck when it says, "I don't want to work." Yeah, I don't want to work 200 hours. I want some time to think. I want to dream and this and that. And we continue to put the boot on the neck. Well, then we might have a problem. We might have a rebellion scenario. So we have to be cautious of the energy and how we. This is why we, the people, the 8 billion of us, we have to take back control of this planet. We must get back into the vibration of love and light and the natural state. I think of the general populace. There are some dark people and evil people that exist, but that's always going to be there. But overall, the majority of people they just want to live good, have a good life, and take care of their families. Well, you got to get back to understanding. We got to take back control of some of this, this stuff that the government is doing and these private corporations are doing, or at least infiltrate them and put people in positions of power like they like they do, and groom them to be in some some of these companies. But

Alex Ferrari 46:53
what I found what I what I find fascinating is that a lot of these institutions that you're talking about will crumble themselves based on the technology, like I just said, like anything software, anything software based.

Billy Carson 47:04
A lot of them will be gone.

Alex Ferrari 47:06
Will be gone. You can see what's happening in Hollywood. They're pivoting too slow.

Billy Carson 47:09
Oh

Alex Ferrari 47:09
yeah, they're always going to be too slow. I mean, it's like the

Billy Carson 47:11
blockbuster Netflix. You know what I'm saying? And now Netflix is

Alex Ferrari 47:15
having to pivot.

Billy Carson 47:16
I know.

Alex Ferrari 47:16
Not because why YouTube?

Billy Carson 47:18
Yep, that's right. YouTube forced it

Alex Ferrari 47:20
because now they're now they're like we gotta get the podcast. Let's get the podcast, man. We gotta get some vertical dramas on. Yeah. Now they're trying to catch up with what YouTube was doing quietly. No one who no one took seriously.

Billy Carson 47:31
Exactly. Exactly. Until

Alex Ferrari 47:33
until they did.

Billy Carson 47:34
That's how the world moves. So it's

Alex Ferrari 47:35
just no one ever. You know, I always tell people like, well, Sears is gone.

Billy Carson 47:39
Right. I know Sears and Robot gone. I remember having that big catalog as a kid. I would dream. I would look through that catalog and just dream. I wish I can have it. Oh my God! Look at this stuff, you know.

Alex Ferrari 47:50
But that's but that's the nature of everything. Very few companies, institutions last.

Billy Carson 47:55
Yes, of course.

Alex Ferrari 47:57
You know, and then only things that last that long are either a Japanese building company, which I think is almost 1000 degrees. There's one, if I'm not mistaken, and then like the church.

Billy Carson 48:06
Right, exactly. That's it. So what people don't realize though, what's making it so dramatic is that when the horse bugging carriages out, and then and Mercedes came out with a car, and Ford came out with a car, roughly around the same time. I think Mercedes was actually first. Ford was second. The horse bunking carriage industry was still going. It was a gradual transition into cars. You know, a lot of the times it's these gradual transitions, right? But now, with AI and automation, it's almost instantaneous.

Alex Ferrari 48:36
Instantaneous. The

Billy Carson 48:37
pivot is not, you know, 10 years anymore. It's Monday

Alex Ferrari 48:41
to Tuesday.

Billy Carson 48:41
Boom!

Alex Ferrari 48:42
That's what's happening. It's literally now. I'm I'm I'm watching it from my point of view, and I'm seeing what's happening, and I see what's coming up, and I'm like, from four years ago to where we are now on the video side of stuff. Yeah,

Billy Carson 48:54
insane,

Alex Ferrari 48:55
insane. But now the automation, the control, what it can do, is mind blowing. It is. It's mind blowing.

Billy Carson 49:05
I literally, you know, contacted a producer. He's working on a project for me. He's doing my legacy TV series, which is my life story. He sent me the opening scenes, and it was my mother's face when she was yeah 20s.

Alex Ferrari 49:20
Sure,

Billy Carson 49:20
and it was in a real hospital, and the people were indistinguishable. I showed it to somebody without telling them anything, and they're like, "What movie is this? What is this? Who are these actors?" They couldn't tell it was AI. Even the voice inflections and everything, the screaming and the agony, the blood.

Alex Ferrari 49:37
Yeah,

Billy Carson 49:38
and I was like, "Wow,

Alex Ferrari 49:39
it's getting there. It's getting there." I my eye doesn't. I can tell.

Billy Carson 49:43
Yeah. Oh, you you you're a professional. Yeah, yeah. This is what you do.

Alex Ferrari 49:46
Yeah, I can tell. I can I can see AI coming from Malay personally. Yeah, I can still. The

Billy Carson 49:50
average person watching, they have no clue.

Alex Ferrari 49:52
Most of them don't. Yeah, and we're not. In my opinion, we're not there yet. But we're may we're a couple years.

Billy Carson 49:59
All right, it's incredible. We're almost.

Alex Ferrari 50:00
To the holodeck.

Billy Carson 50:00
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 50:01
we'll we'll get to the holodeck in our. The holodeck

Billy Carson 50:03
is in my new book. Well, my second to third new, my second to last new book, Fractal Holographic Universe, because they actually developed the floor for the holodeck, the multi multi directional flooring.

Alex Ferrari 50:13
Yeah, I saw that. I saw that guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah,

Billy Carson 50:15
yeah. So they got the multi directional flooring. We're gonna have the holodeck scenario, and now you can run, walk, jump, climb, but you're never going anywhere. And you know, and and and you can have a complete. You can go on vacation. I mean, it's going to be insane.

Alex Ferrari 50:28
Well, then it's Total Recall,

Billy Carson 50:29
right? Total Recall. It's uh, it's the Star Trek holodeck. It's

Alex Ferrari 50:34
it's all sci-fi.

Billy Carson 50:35
We're going there. Everything that's been there is being manifested to real reality.

Alex Ferrari 50:39
That's how it starts.

Billy Carson 50:40
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 50:40
I always tell people, I was like, if it wasn't for H. G. Wells, that's the beginning of space exploration and the technologies because it was the first time someone dreamed

Billy Carson 50:52
it

Alex Ferrari 50:52
out publicly. Yeah, you know, and that's when then, and then when Star Wars came up, how many astronauts came out of Star Wars? Oh

Billy Carson 50:59
man,

Alex Ferrari 50:59
how many kids were like, "I want to go to Stars," kind of thing. Because of that, it's insane. All right, so let's let's take it. Let's jump into a new a new arena, sir. One of your favorite

Billy Carson 51:10
Thoth. Oh man, Thoth.

Alex Ferrari 51:10
So my question to you was Short and Wearing. Yeah, exactly. There he is. There he is. So is is Thoth the same being as Enoch?

Billy Carson 51:19
You know, that's a great question. Thoth appears to be potentially Enoch, potentially Yeshua, potentially Odin, Mercury. You know, be Wang Di, the first emperor of China. I mean, I could just keep going and going and going. This Hermes, Hermes Trismegistus. This being appears to have been potentially, potentially, all of these people. You

Alex Ferrari 51:44
mean like they just like Saint Germain? Yeah, like incarnations. Oh, these are incarnations. Yeah,

Billy Carson 51:49
incarnations. Yeah. In other words, that he comes back in different periods of time as different people with different names. He's Barakocha, Kukukan, Quetzalcoatl. In Australia, he's thought the Mabi. It's a huge petroglyph of him in the in the Australian outback in the ground, and he's on this strange object. They said that's his skyship. He's flying through the Milky Way, and it's like what? I mean, he's in he's he's in Australia. I mean, this guy seems to be everywhere, and potentially different. Maybe he was even Imhotep in ancient Egypt. Now again, so these are hypotheses, right? But the characteristics and the the personality traits all seem to be very similar, and a lot of the statements all the a lot of them seem to come similarly from statements made in the Emerald Tablets. So it's pretty interesting that this guy potentially could be all these individual beings.

Alex Ferrari 52:44
That's fascinating. So did so did Enoch ever

Billy Carson 52:48
die? Enoch supposedly never died, even according to the Bible. So

Alex Ferrari 52:51
Enoch. So then was so then

Billy Carson 52:53
what he went? He was whisked into heaven. Was that near death experience? Didn't have to die a natural death.

Alex Ferrari 52:58
Was that a near death experience? It could have

Billy Carson 53:00
been a near death experience. It could have been an alien abduction. It could have been this guy got into a skyship and got out of here. There's so many potential out reasons why he didn't have to die a physical death.

Alex Ferrari 53:11
So you know, I just had a conversation recently with Robert, our friend, by Robert Grant, and we talked a lot about the

Billy Carson 53:18
Enoch,

Alex Ferrari 53:18
and it seems like Enoch, and specifically the Book of Enoch is something that's on the lips of a lot of people. A lot of people are really interested in the Book of Enoch now. So, can you explain to people why the Book of Enoch was left out of the Bible? Because there doesn't, at least from my point of view, doesn't seem that there's anything horribly off kilter in the in the canon. Like there's certain books that are just like, oh god, you can't put that. Yeah, you can't put Mary Magdalene, the Gospel of Mary Magdalene. Can't put that in. That's that's gonna. No, we gotta get rid of that reincarnation thing. Right, right. Am I wrong? Was there anything in the book of Enoch? Well, there are

Billy Carson 53:53
some things in there. There

Alex Ferrari 53:54
is a few things. Yeah. So off canon.

Billy Carson 53:55
It well now you're talking about these fallen angels like Azazel that comes down and teaches men how to smote metal and make a weapon that can slice a man's head off and it can penetrate a shield. So they're taught weaponry, steel, right? Steel, yeah. They're taught how to do steel. They're taught how to make weapons. They're taught how to kill in a war, and so that's something like this angel is supposed to be divine.

Alex Ferrari 54:23
Got it. Why is it coming? You're right. Angels teach us how

Billy Carson 54:26
to make weapons and kill each other.

Alex Ferrari 54:27
Well, give us information, right? Yeah.

Billy Carson 54:29
And then another one comes down and it teaches women how to make makeup and and you know and and and put makeup on their face and and all this stuff and earrings and all this decoration, jewelry and all of that, right?

Alex Ferrari 54:40
Can't have that.

Billy Carson 54:41
Right, exactly. You know, and so, and you keep looking at what they were doing when they engaged mankind. It was like the things that, according to around that time frame, were like, no, no, don't, don't, you shouldn't be doing this. And then they would even go to war with us. Like they would put on their breastplate of steel, and they would actually go to war. And so you see that as well. Of course, that evil. Enoch was taken away in in some kind of a skyship or in the spirit, whatever you want to call it, at an appointed time. So now this gets far out of the bounds of what they really want us to understand and believe in. And now he's revered in the Bible because he's mentioned at the Bible in a high state. Higher state is mentioned very nicely, but his book is not there, and it's because of this. I know I was on a podcast with Alex Jones recently, and he was like the Book of Enoch, and he was like all into the Book of Enoch. I was kind of shocked because you know he's a he's a mainstream Christian guy, but he was really he was really enamored by the Book of Enoch, which is great, obviously. But like you're right, a lot of people are talking about the Book of Enoch now and trying to figure it all out, and again, it it leads to some type of an engagement by beings that were more advanced than us. And when a less advanced being engaged, or when a when a more advanced being engages a less advanced being, the less advanced being will deify them right away. Obviously, so I don't believe that these were angels. I believe that these were potentially aliens. Now you may want to call them advanced beings. They could be terrestrial. They could be from Earth. They could be from a part of Earth that where they had superior knowledge.

Alex Ferrari 56:10
Could be the Anunnaki.

Billy Carson 56:11
Could be the Anunnaki. The Anu and the same people could be the material, according to ancient Egypt, the knitters. But either way, they engaged a lesser advanced people, and those people right away thought they were angels and gods and everything else, and they did bring knowledge that was quote unquote kind of seemed detrimental to civilization.

Alex Ferrari 56:30
That's what. So that's why it's so. That's how they pulled it out. Right.

Alex Ferrari 56:33
So then, why is the Book of Enoch in the Ethiopian?

Billy Carson 56:37
Yes, it's in the Ethiopian Bible. Kept it in.

Alex Ferrari 56:40
Yeah. So that's it's the full

Billy Carson 56:41
and complete Bible,

Alex Ferrari 56:42
according to well, those all right. So that's a statement right there. It's the full and complete Bible, right? Right. Well, we

Billy Carson 56:47
don't know if it's complete, but it has the Book of Enoch. They didn't delete that book out of it.

Alex Ferrari 56:50
What else in the Ethiopian Bible is different? Because a lot of people don't understand that Christianity started in Africa. I know they don't. They don't understand that. Like they don't want to understand it. They don't. Well, obviously Jesus wasn't a white man with blue eyes and blonde hair either. So right. Yeah. But but that's why the Ethiopian Bible is the oldest. Even it predates. Does it predate Constantine?

Billy Carson 57:16
It predates Constantine for sure. Yeah. So they were

Alex Ferrari 57:18
putting together, but they did. Did they put the Torah in there as well, or was that added later?

Billy Carson 57:23
I didn't. I don't know if the Torah was in there. That's something we have to research. Okay. Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 57:27
Exactly. Because I mean, the book, the the. But they did have a

Billy Carson 57:29
Torah down there in Ethiopia. Because remember, we have the black Jews in Ethiopia who have the Torah, who speak Hebrew, who go to temple, and have been doing this so long, far longer than the Jewish people that live in Israel,

Alex Ferrari 57:42
sure,

Billy Carson 57:43
to the point where they weren't even aware of the Holocaust. They didn't know the Holocaust actually happened till they were told about

Alex Ferrari 57:48
it. You mean the Ethiopian, the

Billy Carson 57:49
Ethiopian black Jews, the original Jews,

Alex Ferrari 57:51
because they never,

Billy Carson 57:52
yeah,

Alex Ferrari 57:53
it was they were just away from all that.

Billy Carson 57:54
Exactly, and there

Alex Ferrari 57:55
was no internet. There was no internet. They weren't. They

Billy Carson 57:57
were completely disconnected from it.

Alex Ferrari 57:58
So, what is in the Ethiopian Bible other than the Book of Enoch, that's different from the the traditional Catholic canon.

Billy Carson 58:06
I think it's obviously the traditional Catholic canon is a little bit more remixed. So we might go to I like the use word remixed, right? If you go to yeah, because they gotta they had to make it to where they can completely control the people, you know. And I'm pretty sure if you go to that Book of Enoch, I mean that that that Ethiopian Bible, you will find you will find that you may not see this hell concept the way that it's written in the more modern version of the Bible.

Alex Ferrari 58:34
But is is is hell even this

Billy Carson 58:36
lake of fire?

Alex Ferrari 58:37
Yeah, it's yeah. Well, that's Hanaia or what's it called? Henana, henana,

Billy Carson 58:42
yeah,

Alex Ferrari 58:42
the the what Jesus spoke about,

Billy Carson 58:44
right, right.

Alex Ferrari 58:44
But hell is spoke about, but loosely, very loosely, yeah,

Billy Carson 58:50
yeah.

Alex Ferrari 58:50
Dante is the one that gave it,

Billy Carson 58:52
right,

Alex Ferrari 58:52
good marketing,

Billy Carson 58:53
right, right, good visuals, exactly, and they kind

Alex Ferrari 58:54
of brought that into it. But that's not actually in the Bible.

Billy Carson 58:57
No, it's not. They just made it a part of it subconsciously, and now you believe it's there,

Alex Ferrari 59:01
but it's not. It's

Billy Carson 59:02
not.

Alex Ferrari 59:02
It's not at all. That lake of fire, the demons, and all that stuff. There is a lake of fire that Jesus talked about. The the Lake Henna. What's the name of it? It

Billy Carson 59:09
was like Lake Henana.

Alex Ferrari 59:10
Hey, Lake exactly. Where they threw the garbage, and there was bad stuff that happened there. Right. Right. And it was what he said. Yeah. That's the the concept of what hell is. Right. Because there's no hell in the Torah.

Billy Carson 59:19
Right. Right. No.

Alex Ferrari 59:20
There's there there's no hell. No, there's no devil.

Billy Carson 59:23
No,

Alex Ferrari 59:23
none of that is the devil in. Remind me, is the devil in the New Testament?

Billy Carson 59:27
In the New Testament, yes, the devil. Remember, Satan tempts him in the in the wilderness. That's

Alex Ferrari 59:32
right. There is this. Yeah, that's right. He goes out 40 days. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. But again, it's loose.

Billy Carson 59:37
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kind of. And it's interesting because, like I said, if you go through the entire Bible, you you realize that the devil didn't really kill anybody.

Alex Ferrari 59:44
But Jehovah, 3

Billy Carson 59:46
million people by Jehovah, 3 million.

Alex Ferrari 59:49
I mean, well, you know, then that's a

Billy Carson 59:50
lot of dead people. Obviously, I mean, Moses goes up in the Torah. Moses goes up into the mountain. He gets to the burning bush. He gets to he gets you know the the 10 Commandments. The first

Alex Ferrari 59:59
actually was 15. You remember that movie History of 15, right? He gets the tablet from the he gets the

Billy Carson 1:00:06
tablet from the cloud. Yeah, you know the first cloud tablet. He comes back down the mountain, and you know the first commandment was thou shalt not kill, and right away he sees him making a golden calf, and then he kills like 1000s of his own people, which is insane

Alex Ferrari 1:00:20
because that works,

Billy Carson 1:00:20
right? Exactly. So it's just like what you know. This is just not. And then he warned us for 40 days, 4040 years in the desert on a path on Google Maps would only take a few days, you know. So

Alex Ferrari 1:00:34
there's a lot of illogical situations. Yes. There's a lot of holes in the. If you

Billy Carson 1:00:37
lived in the desert and that was your whole life for generations, you're gonna know. You're gonna know how to navigate the damn desert. You're not gonna be

Alex Ferrari 1:00:42
lost for 40 years.

Billy Carson 1:00:43
No, you're not gonna be lost for 40 years. Come on. Even if

Alex Ferrari 1:00:45
you walk in one direction for 40 years, you're gonna get out of it.

Billy Carson 1:00:47
Thank you, sir. I mean, come on. So we have to. We just gotta get. We just gotta get smart. We gotta start using our minds. But yeah. So

Alex Ferrari 1:00:58
so the Ethiopian Bible. What's in it that you believe that is not in the normal canon. Besides Enoch, is there anything else?

Billy Carson 1:01:04
I think that basically just a different version of the events in terms of the events are probably still on, but not as not as dramatic for to for the purpose and use of control over the masses of people. It's a more spiritual more spiritual text, and of course the Book of Enoch is is included in there.

Alex Ferrari 1:01:21
Mary Magdalene's not in there, is she? I mean, as far as the book,

Billy Carson 1:01:24
I don't believe so. No, no. Now

Alex Ferrari 1:01:25
all these books have been discovered, so there is like the the Gospel of Mary Magdalene. Yeah,

Billy Carson 1:01:29
we have all the Apocrypha texts.

Alex Ferrari 1:01:31
Yeah, what are the other what are the other ones that were missing?

Billy Carson 1:01:33
Maccabees, you know, of course, the Book of Adam, the Mary Macklin text. We've got oh, there's so many of them.

Alex Ferrari 1:01:43
There's a bunch of them. There's a lot

Billy Carson 1:01:44
of them. I have the the apocrypha. It's this thick. You can buy them on Amazon. It's all condensed into one book, so you have them all in one text. So these are all the

Alex Ferrari 1:01:53
extra, all the extra, all the cut,

Billy Carson 1:01:55
all the banned books of the Bible are in one text called the Apocrypha. All right, A P O C A P O C R O P Y A or something like that, and so you for some people trying to look it up, and and you just you get them all in one, and then you can see the Maccabees and all these texts are all in there. The Book of Adam is really dramatic because you see that he was so distraught from being ejected from that, what I call an open laboratory called the the Garden of Eden, and he's he's kicked out these guards that force him out. Guards with weapons.

Alex Ferrari 1:02:30
So who the guards?

Billy Carson 1:02:31
Yeah, exactly. Who who these guards? He's the only

Alex Ferrari 1:02:33
man. He's the first man.

Billy Carson 1:02:34
Where the guards come from?

Alex Ferrari 1:02:35
Are these angels?

Billy Carson 1:02:36
They're supposedly just guards. They never say they were angels. They've got weapons, by the way. When they kick him out,

Alex Ferrari 1:02:42
why would you need weapons if there's no there's nobody who you finding

Billy Carson 1:02:45
who you guarding? Who's who's going to get in there? Who's coming to get in the garden? Think about it. Who's

Alex Ferrari 1:02:52
outside?

Billy Carson 1:02:53
Somebody. That's what. That's why that book is not in the Bible. When he gets out, he goes into the water, and he's there with his wife, and he tries to commit suicide. Tries to drown himself. Wow! And the guards wouldn't let him kill himself. They came and pulled him up and said, "Nah, you can't do this." You know,

Alex Ferrari 1:03:10
this guard thing is fascinating to me. It's like having the guards in front of the the the something of solitude.

Billy Carson 1:03:17
Right, right. You know,

Alex Ferrari 1:03:18
it's Superman. Like,

Billy Carson 1:03:19
why? What are they there for? He's

Alex Ferrari 1:03:20
Superman,

Billy Carson 1:03:21
right? Right. Like, why does

Alex Ferrari 1:03:22
Superman need guards? Like, I don't understand.

Billy Carson 1:03:24
Yeah, it's a pretty interesting book, and you begin Book of Adam. Book of Adam. He was very distraught, like very emotionally, just traumatically destroyed. And where's

Alex Ferrari 1:03:33
Evie? Evie. She's with him. And but like, what is how's she dealing with it? Oh,

Billy Carson 1:03:37
she's you know she's trying to console him and everything else. But yeah, it's pretty crazy. Like you, you, you get his you by reading it, you pick up the emotion, how distraught he was from this scenario. From this,

Alex Ferrari 1:03:48
who wrote that book?

Billy Carson 1:03:50
I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. A

Alex Ferrari 1:03:51
lot of these books, no one knows who they wrote. Yeah,

Billy Carson 1:03:53
yeah. People will make up and say this one and that one, but I don't think anybody. Well, the books of the

Alex Ferrari 1:03:57
Bible, they don't really know,

Billy Carson 1:03:58
right?

Alex Ferrari 1:03:59
Who you know, Paul did some of them. His other one, his buddies did some other ones.

Billy Carson 1:04:03
Some of them were biliterate people, but how they write? Or a group

Alex Ferrari 1:04:06
of them?

Billy Carson 1:04:06
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:04:07
came together and they just put the name under it.

Billy Carson 1:04:09
Right, right, yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:04:10
kind of thing. So people

Billy Carson 1:04:11
don't realize a lot of the the followers of Thoth wrote a lot of the biblical texts, the Phoenicians.

Alex Ferrari 1:04:17
Interesting.

Billy Carson 1:04:17
Yeah, a lot of the Phoenicians had a lot to do with the from the first AD to 900 AD, yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:04:24
But there's like, but the, but Jesus again never wrote anything down. And then the first person who starts writing down, according to what we know, was Paul.

Billy Carson 1:04:34
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:04:35
was 140 years later or something like that. Yeah, yeah. Am I not mistaken? All the all the apostles are gone.

Billy Carson 1:04:39
They're all gone.

Alex Ferrari 1:04:39
Yeah, because Paul did meet Peter.

Billy Carson 1:04:42
Yeah, maybe they were channelers. Maybe they were channeling information. You know, you know, I don't know. It's people don't understand. Nobody was doing this. A lot of this wasn't done in real time. But the perception in the churches are that is all this was written in real time. Like somebody was writing and running around writing this every single down, taking every single note. In real time, that just didn't happen. People just need to understand that it's not that the Bible is is bad. There's a lot of good stuff and bad stuff in there, just like anything else that exists within its own universe. You have yin and yang; every polarity exists, right? There's some things in the Bible that, if you follow and listen to and apply in your life,

Alex Ferrari 1:05:16
beautiful,

Billy Carson 1:05:17
beautiful, you get a great result.

Alex Ferrari 1:05:18
A lot of it comes in the New Testament. Yes, right. There's some in the open. Yeah, don't follow

Billy Carson 1:05:22
the book of Deuteronomy because you'll be in prison. I'm sorry. Okay, you'll be in prison for life, or maybe you'll be executed. Don't follow that book. Yeah. But but you know, there's stuff in there that you can apply to your life and get a good result. And there's things in there that if you apply them, you're going to go to prison. So you got to be careful.

Alex Ferrari 1:05:39
There's there's that.

Billy Carson 1:05:40
Yeah. And people utilize those dark and negative things to give themselves a right to hurt and harm people, saying it's in the Bible, right? So why, if that was there, then why can't I do it? It's just yeah. We were talking about

Alex Ferrari 1:05:53
this earlier. Like I found that the the worst ego in existence is the spiritual

Billy Carson 1:05:58
ego. The spiritual ego is pretty tough.

Alex Ferrari 1:06:00
I mean that's like there's ego and then there's spiritual ego.

Billy Carson 1:06:02
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:06:03
because when you connect whatever justification of whatever evil things you're doing or even negative things you're doing to God, that is now you can do anything. Not which has happened.

Billy Carson 1:06:15
Look at the papal inquisitions.

Alex Ferrari 1:06:17
I mean, look at the crusades. Look

Billy Carson 1:06:18
at the crusade. 80 million people over the course of 700 years tortured and killed, and they're so proud about it. They have the torture mechanisms. I just came back from Rome a few months ago. I get. I went to that museum. Yeah, they've got them on display. Look what we did. You know

Alex Ferrari 1:06:31
exactly, just like just like Jesus would do.

Billy Carson 1:06:33
Right. Exactly. I

Alex Ferrari 1:06:35
must kill you in the name of this peaceful God. Right. Yeah.

Billy Carson 1:06:37
If Jesus came back today, there are people here that would actually try to annihilate him right now today.

Alex Ferrari 1:06:43
Of course,

Billy Carson 1:06:43
immediately.

Alex Ferrari 1:06:44
You know.

Billy Carson 1:06:45
Well, you know, a lot of the culture out of Israel is that you know he's he deserves to burn in his own escribment for all eternity. They don't believe in Jesus at all, which is why I can't understand why conservative Christians support Israel because Israel does not believe in a savior, believe them in the in the Messiah. Doesn't believe that Jesus is the Messiah. I should say, and that he's he was an evil person that should burn in his own excerpts for all time.

Alex Ferrari 1:07:08
What I understood was that again, and for my Jewish friends, I always heard that they they acknowledge them as a prophet, but not the Messiah.

Billy Carson 1:07:18
When you listen to the Zionist version of Yeshua and what they talk about. There's a lot of videos of now because they all have been exposed. They're saying that he was a false prophet and that he deserved he deserves to burn in his own or suffer in his own, lay in his own excrement for all eternity or something like that. That

Alex Ferrari 1:07:33
could be looked up pretty easy. Pretty

Billy Carson 1:07:35
dark, yeah. That's be looked up pretty easy. It's pretty dark stuff. It's pretty dark stuff, you know. So I'm like, what in the world is going on here? But again, but that who killed him the first time,

Alex Ferrari 1:07:44
right?

Billy Carson 1:07:46
The same people.

Alex Ferrari 1:07:47
I mean,

Billy Carson 1:07:48
so it doesn't surprise me at all.

Alex Ferrari 1:07:50
So who were the watchers? The

Billy Carson 1:07:52
watchers were these Anunna or the Anunnaki, right? Not

Alex Ferrari 1:07:57
Nephilim.

Billy Carson 1:07:58
No, I don't. I don't think it was a Nephilim. The Nephilim were more like terrestrial beings that kind of lived here. They had a human human mother and a and a quote unquote non human or you know otherworldly father.

Alex Ferrari 1:08:10
And that's not Anak. That's not the Anunnaki.

Billy Carson 1:08:13
No, they're like half Anunnaki. They're called demigods in more modern terms.

Alex Ferrari 1:08:16
So they'd be the Hercules,

Billy Carson 1:08:17
right? Hercules and those people, right? So I don't think they were watchers. They were they had a lot of knowledge. They were taught and handed down a lot of wisdom. Gilgamesh was a was one of them. Gilgamesh was half human, half Anunnaki, and he was a giant. And he ruled over a rook. He was the king of a rook. You know, he went on that hero's journey in the Epic of Gilgamesh with Enkidu, which was a being that was an artificial intelligent being that was made to go on the journey with him, it wasn't born from a womb. They said in the text, Enkidu was not born from a womb of a woman. We we fashioned him and created him to go on the journey with with Gilgamesh.

Alex Ferrari 1:08:53
So he's the R 2d too.

Billy Carson 1:08:54
Yes, an AI artificially created being that didn't come from from a woman's womb that was created by Enlil, wow, and his partners, right?

Alex Ferrari 1:09:05
Fair enough.

Billy Carson 1:09:05
First, first AI robot we've known in history that was you know documented.

Alex Ferrari 1:09:09
Because that book of yellowish is the oldest story.

Billy Carson 1:09:11
It's the oldest story,

Alex Ferrari 1:09:12
oldest recorded story.

Billy Carson 1:09:13
Yeah, yeah, it's incredible. It's at a British Museum, right? What?

Alex Ferrari 1:09:16
I didn't see it that time. Damn it! It's there. Yeah, yeah. They have the the tablet.

Billy Carson 1:09:22
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Gilgamesh. They stole

Alex Ferrari 1:09:24
everything, didn't they?

Billy Carson 1:09:24
They got everything. They stole everything. Statues, man. They got everything. Like, give me, give me, give me, give me

Alex Ferrari 1:09:29
everything. Holy crap!

Billy Carson 1:09:31
Oh my God, they got everything.

Alex Ferrari 1:09:33
Almost as bad as the Vatican. Yeah, you know that was that was a rough one. But with

Billy Carson 1:09:36
the way the wars are going now in the Middle East, I'm almost glad they took it because it might have all been destroyed.

Alex Ferrari 1:09:40
Yeah, they protected at least. They

Billy Carson 1:09:41
probably wouldn't be able to see any of this stuff, you know.

Alex Ferrari 1:09:43
Sure,

Billy Carson 1:09:44
because they would have been blown up, buried in dirt and dust, and blown up. All

Alex Ferrari 1:09:48
right, so so okay, so the Watchers.

Billy Carson 1:09:49
Yeah, so the Watchers are most likely these um these angels, quote unquote Annunaki beings that are sent to just watch over mankind. Not not to fully totally interact or engage, it seemed like it had come to a point where, after the flood and mankind was rebuilding civilization on its own, kind of like an abandoned seed colony, that these beings were observing. And when I first heard that, I was like, "What is the purpose?" But then I saw an episode of Star Trek where the Star Trek were the Watchers. They do. They take this text and they turn it into shows. And Star Trek, Star Trek Generations, Captain Picard, and they're on this remote planet, and they've now used holographic technology to seal themselves inside the side of a mountain, which is really a technological wonder of a facility on the inside, watching and observing. And they've got all these cameras and satellites in space observing this culture as it's coming out of the Bronze Age, and they accidentally have a malfunction, and they get discovered behind this artificial wall of a mountain, and of course they immediately begin to pray, "You're God," and it gets really crazy after that. But

Alex Ferrari 1:10:56
that's awesome. But then I, yes, crazy. Such a great series.

Billy Carson 1:11:00
At the end, you begin the the moral of the story because you know the the guy Picard says, "Look, we're not gods. We're just like you. We're you know you can you can take a bow and you can kill a hornbook, but could your ancestor do that? We're watching the development of your species so we can learn more about ourselves and where we came from." And I was like, "Wow, that's so interesting." In other words, they're gaining knowledge. It's almost like how we go out National Geographic. We go and we create what they call a hide in the wilderness. We set up our cameras and we observe all the animals, like we're the aliens in their environment, and we're just watching them, so we can document everything about them. We even alien abduct them by shooting them with a dart, knocking them out, take them to a laboratory, tag them, put tracking devices inside their bodies, like alien trackers, and then we release them back in the wild again. They wake up all groggy and they run off, and then we still watch them some more. So I think the same thing is happening to mankind. Wow, that's

Alex Ferrari 1:11:52
that's insane. I never really thought about it that way. Yeah, I got to watch Generations again, man. That was probably arguably the best of the Star Trek.

Billy Carson 1:11:59
Oh yeah, it was

Alex Ferrari 1:12:00
series. The

Billy Carson 1:12:01
lessons, the life lessons in there were impeccable?

Alex Ferrari 1:12:04
I mean, what they were they were sneaking in all sorts of knowledge. Ah, they was dropping

Billy Carson 1:12:07
it in, man. They were handling, they were dealing with racism, xenophobia. They were dealing with inequality. They were dealing with financial systems. Everything was in that ship. And you could

Alex Ferrari 1:12:15
and you could not do that today.

Billy Carson 1:12:16
No,

Alex Ferrari 1:12:17
no, it would not in a major studio. Well, I mean, even the original Star Trek.

Billy Carson 1:12:22
Yeah, and you get like 25 episodes per season. Now you only get eight episodes per season. If you're lucky, if you're lucky, sometimes maybe six. You may you can't even get a second season now,

Alex Ferrari 1:12:31
right? And you have to let the show go and all that. Yeah,

Billy Carson 1:12:34
let them go.

Alex Ferrari 1:12:34
All right, so I want to switch topics here. I don't think I've ever spoken to you about this, but Antarctica.

Billy Carson 1:12:40
Oh wow, Antarctica, man,

Alex Ferrari 1:12:43
Antarctica. So we're discovering now that Antarctica is actually much even bigger than originally anticipated because it's it's it's

Billy Carson 1:12:53
a massive continent, and

Alex Ferrari 1:12:54
it's hard to even wrap your head around it. Yeah, and more and more stuff is melting.

Billy Carson 1:12:58
Oh yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:12:59
So, what is your take on Antarctica from from the research you've done, lost worlds that possibly could be there? Because I have this is my this is logic. I'm gonna throw some logic out.

Alex Ferrari 1:13:13
If this planet's been around for 4.5 billion years, at one point or another, Antarctica is not covered by

Billy Carson 1:13:19
snow

Alex Ferrari 1:13:20
or snow or ice. So if that's the case, that means that there is something there. Now I'm not saying that human beings were there at any point, but arguably more unlikely, some sort of dinosaurs were there. Potential hominids lived there at one point or another, because on the timeline of history, it lines up.

Billy Carson 1:13:43
It lines up.

Alex Ferrari 1:13:44
There's something that lines up. It lines up. So, what do you think is there? What do you think? What is the new research showing? Yeah. What do you think?

Billy Carson 1:13:50
This first, I'm going to Antarctica in a few months. By the way, of

Alex Ferrari 1:13:53
course you are because you're the most interesting man in the world. But go ahead. It's on my website. You have a lot of this with you. Antarctica tour. Yeah, right.

Billy Carson 1:13:59
Antarctica tour coming up in December, my first one. But so Antarctica is a massive continent. Now, how did they get buried under so much ice? We know that the Perry Reese map shows Antarctica without ice accurately.

Alex Ferrari 1:14:13
Correct.

Billy Carson 1:14:14
Right. So we know that someone has seen

Alex Ferrari 1:14:16
that was like what year? Like 1600s.

Billy Carson 1:14:18
1600s. But it's a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy that goes back. Who knows how many 10s of 1000s of years old this information is, right? Somebody fortunately copied it. Here's what's crazy about it. It's pretty accurate. When you lay out the Perry Rees map, it's taken from a perspective directly above Cairo from

Alex Ferrari 1:14:34
the sky. Yeah, which is incredible. It's like a satellite view.

Billy Carson 1:14:37
Yes, a satellite view, but directly above Egypt. But anyway, lines

Alex Ferrari 1:14:41
up, and and the coasts line up.

Billy Carson 1:14:43
It's crazy.

Alex Ferrari 1:14:43
I've seen this bear. Yeah, it's insane. It's so insane.

Billy Carson 1:14:46
Now, so we know this. Now, it most likely was in a more habitable zone, not necessarily just the

Alex Ferrari 1:14:53
pole shift.

Billy Carson 1:14:54
We had a pole shift of the crust. In other words, tectonic plates had a massive shift, and the plate that it sat on. Moved into that location at a very rapid pace, maybe within hours or days.

Alex Ferrari 1:15:05
Oh wow, that's not good.

Billy Carson 1:15:06
Mass displacement of ocean water. So when you have that kind of solid mass moving over liquid, you get displacement of the liquid. That liquid is going to move and wash over the land globally. You're talking about a global flood can be not from rain, but from the displacement of landmass. So is that contradicting the possible Younger Dryas? No, no, no combination. Combination. Not combination. Separately, we're seeing now multiple flood scenarios on Earth. The Younger Dryas, one of potentially several floods that happened.

Alex Ferrari 1:15:41
Right.

Billy Carson 1:15:41
So this potential Antarctic shift could be another flood that happened. Now, when this happened, you have that much rushing water over the land as the land is moving into a very cold environment. Now we're getting flash frozen, and how do we know this? They are finding, like you said, there's melt. This ice melt is revealing animals to have undigested food in their stomachs,

Alex Ferrari 1:16:03
so that means it was quick,

Billy Carson 1:16:05
very quick, undigested.

Alex Ferrari 1:16:07
That has happened, yeah. That is happening. That's

Billy Carson 1:16:08
fast. Yeah. So now we're becoming to realize that this continent wasn't here before; it moved here because a gradual cooling period. You're not going to have a flash frozen animal with undigested food, it's going to be a dead, long gone animal with bones in the ground. So that means it was this quick, but it also means whatever was there is still underneath that ice. So they started doing an ice core drilling, not just normal kind. They went deep. They went 2.2 miles beneath the ice core, beneath the ice with an ice core drill.

Alex Ferrari 1:16:41
Did it hit?

Billy Carson 1:16:42
They went when they got to 2.2. It opened up into an area that was open, massive open area with lakes and streams, and life.

Alex Ferrari 1:16:50
No

Billy Carson 1:16:51
Lake Vostok, Antarctica. Look it up. 2.2 miles down, they ended up, and then they started researching this area, and they started pulling up fish.

Alex Ferrari 1:17:02
No, stop it!

Billy Carson 1:17:03
I'm dead serious.

Alex Ferrari 1:17:04
Is this not? Is this out?

Billy Carson 1:17:05
Living? Yes, it's out. This is this is now. You can just Google it. You probably added to this episode. And so they started looking into this, and they started realizing, oh my God! They mapped hundreds of lakes underneath the ice. They found out that the Earth was was warming from the inside out through the magma and the core, so the Earth in that area is warming from the inside out, which is actually creating this ecological system that exists beneath all this ice shelf. This

Alex Ferrari 1:17:34
is journey to the center of the Earth, guys.

Billy Carson 1:17:35
Yes. So now they're like, holy crap! There's an entire ecosystem beneath the ice in an open area that's vast.

Alex Ferrari 1:17:46
So they found animals down there.

Billy Carson 1:17:47
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 1:17:48
and the fish they're pulling out are something they've never seen.

Billy Carson 1:17:51
I don't know if they didn't say that they never saw them. They just said they pull out some fish. But what's interesting is that that means that if there are structures down there, they could still be down there, 2.2 miles down, completely untouched.

Alex Ferrari 1:18:02
You structures meaning like just structures, ancient

Billy Carson 1:18:05
temples, pyramids, whatever mankind built around that time frame, whether it's whether it's megalithic or not, whatever's down there could be completely untouched, completely virgin to the the meddling hands of the military-industrial complex.

Alex Ferrari 1:18:23
Interesting. Yeah.

Billy Carson 1:18:24
So I'm working on getting the telemetry to some of these locations and giving it to Filippo Biondi to see if he may be able to get some type of synthetic aperture radar scan from space. And I'm also raising capital through my company to get one of my own CubeSats so I can begin to do some of my own scans around the planet and get my own data.

Alex Ferrari 1:18:41
That's insane.

Billy Carson 1:18:42
Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:18:42
Do you think that we're going to see in our lifetime? We see anything that's? I believe so.

Billy Carson 1:18:47
Within the next 10 to 15 years, there's going to be a huge revealing as to what's beneath the ice of Antarctica and the pyramids that are there are going to be documented. It's going to be a massive unveiling of ancient history, revealing, in my opinion, potentially the remnants of lost Atlantis. Not that it was the ring city, but that globally Atlantis existed, and that could be some of the untouched structures that existed from a global civilization 1000s of years ago.

Alex Ferrari 1:19:14
Jesus.

Alex Ferrari 1:19:17
So you brought up Atlantis. Atlantis is obviously one of my favorite things to talk about, and everybody's favorite thing. It's a beautiful story, and it's amazing, and everything. And do you think that we're repeating some of the things that we did? If Atlantis did exist, yeah, we

Billy Carson 1:19:33
keep going through these cycles, and we repeat the cycles in various different formats, right? Like we know we had ancient data centers; those are the ancient temples that existed in ancient times. Now we have modern-day data centers, and we have the types of governments that take over and dominate the people. So the Romans, but so there's different version of these cycles. But it's almost a similar cycle. In other words, in a way that we rise and we fall, we are at the. Point now when we can become a golden age civilization very rapidly, but only if we can get the oligarchs to stop using dark energy on the world and dominance over the world, so that we can get to that golden age. So in a way, there's something preventing us from getting to to the golden age and being in this global Atlantean civilization all over again. And then when we get there, how do we stop them from taking back over and making the fall come back again? The trick in this whole world, in this whole thing, I think what I figured out from my perspective is, golden ages are are capable, not only on Earth but probably even other planets. And the mass grand experiment, in my opinion, could be that the watchers are watching to see how many civilizations can get past the Bronze Age, the Renaissance, the Industrial Age, the the nuclear age, and the AI Age. Yeah, information become spiritually conscious, information age, right, and then get to a golden age again. And how many of them can then sustain a golden age? How many will go through the cycle over and over, and how many will get there and then sustain it? Could this be a civilization right now, with all the work that's being done on awakening and consciousness, that can retain enough of the ancient information and wisdom, and pass it on to future generations, so that we can stop making the mistakes that created the fall in the first place, and then sustain the golden age, that could be the ultimate plan, the ultimate experiment.

Alex Ferrari 1:21:25
Now I want to I want to go into I don't think I've spoken to you about this in all of our conversations, but there's been a lot of talk about this thing called disclosure.

Billy Carson 1:21:35
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:21:36
full disclosure. Oh yeah, I love the movie. I thought the movie was great. Yeah. Did you see it?

Billy Carson 1:21:42
I love the movie because it was like almost watching my podcast from 2015 through now. Yeah. Everything that I've said was in that in that channeling

Alex Ferrari 1:21:50
too in there. Yeah. It was crazy. It's all in there. It was crazy. I my favorite line in that movie, and this and for everyone knows the Spielberg movie. It's on. You can stream it now. Yeah. Was when one of the characters calls, she was a former nun, and she calls the mother superior.

Billy Carson 1:22:05
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:22:06
and she's like, "Ask her me something." In the Bible, it says that we were, I think, was the lines like, "We were the the we were perfection, or the we were the the perfect being created by God." And then Mother Superior said, "On Earth,

Billy Carson 1:22:23
on Earth."

Alex Ferrari 1:22:24
And when she, I got shivers in the back of my like, "On Earth,"

Billy Carson 1:22:28
right?

Alex Ferrari 1:22:29
And I was like, "Oh,

Billy Carson 1:22:31
yeah, I was

Alex Ferrari 1:22:32
pretty amazing."

Billy Carson 1:22:33
People who were not experiencers, not a lot, not all, but most, were commenting negatively about the the movie because they couldn't understand what it meant to experiencers, and people were open minds like yourself. People who were experiencers all had the same thing to say. It was surreal. It was like reliving it all over again. The walking through the wall that meant the telepathic connection.

Alex Ferrari 1:22:56
The animals. The

Billy Carson 1:22:57
animals. The

Alex Ferrari 1:22:57
way they did. The clicking

Billy Carson 1:22:58
sounds. The transitioning from one reality to the next, all these things are from experiencers, and my experience, which has been documented and been told since 2015 till just you know last week, has never changed. And it was almost as if the research he did was he he went and found real experiencers, and he took that research and put it into that film.

Alex Ferrari 1:23:18
Yeah, it's pretty amazing. So so, there's been a lot of disclosure happening.

Billy Carson 1:23:22
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:23:22
the government has finally said, "Hey, man, we got something going on," but the world's so crazy that like, can you imagine if the U.S. government in 1985 came out on the news and said, "Hey, we've got a bunch of footage of stuff." Oh man! And there's, I think we got aliens here living among us, and they visited us, and these are some videos that we have.

Billy Carson 1:23:43
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:23:44
can you imagine the worldwide hysteria that would have caught? Now it's just like

Billy Carson 1:23:48
that happened. That that

Alex Ferrari 1:23:49
was a Tuesday. The

Billy Carson 1:23:50
gas bill is up too high.

Alex Ferrari 1:23:52
Yeah, that's that's exactly. Yeah, yeah. So, but they're dumping like not a little bit, and they have

Billy Carson 1:23:57
dumping a lot,

Alex Ferrari 1:23:57
and they're doing congressional hearings, and they have people from the military coming out, and they have government officials coming out talking about this, and everyone's like,

Billy Carson 1:24:06
"Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:24:06
I feel like they were getting prepared,

Billy Carson 1:24:09
yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:24:09
prepped for like when

Billy Carson 1:24:10
they're seeding the knowledge inside of us and seeding seeding the information, so we don't

Alex Ferrari 1:24:14
freak the hell out,

Billy Carson 1:24:15
right, right,

Alex Ferrari 1:24:15
when this actually they're

Billy Carson 1:24:16
gradually building up to a crescendo for us.

Alex Ferrari 1:24:19
So, what do you think about all this? About the the disclosure? Because it's

Billy Carson 1:24:23
twofold.

Alex Ferrari 1:24:24
Yeah, one

Billy Carson 1:24:24
way is they want to keep control of the narrative, so they can continue to manipulate us, so they can siphon trillions of dollars into space weapons. Which, if you go back into my older podcast, I've talked about the space weapon already existing. I talked about the rods from God in many many different podcasts over the years, and people were like, "Well, a lot of these things do. How do we know they're real?" They finally admitted that they're real just a few weeks ago.

Alex Ferrari 1:24:47
What are the rods of God?

Billy Carson 1:24:48
Well, they have a satellite orbiting in space that has a weapon system on it. The weapon system isn't what you think. There are 20-foot tungsten steel rods that can be dropped to precision within centimeters of its destination. Heard

Alex Ferrari 1:24:58
about that? Yes. But but that's like a nuclear bomb going off,

Billy Carson 1:25:02
right? With no fallout, and we have that in space. And it's not designed to fight against intruders. It's a fight designed to bomb, destroy sites on Earth.

Alex Ferrari 1:25:11
How the hell did they get them up there?

Billy Carson 1:25:13
Yeah, right. Now they're saying they're they're finally admitting to it, and the governments of the world are pissed of this admission that just happened, which I don't. I don't even know why they even brought it up. I mean, this. I mean, I don't. I can't begin to. That's a whole other thing. But anyway, you got secret is secret for a reason, right? But it it venerated me because I've been talking about this for quite some time now.

Alex Ferrari 1:25:34
Those and I've heard of the that I've heard of about the tungsten. Like they're how big is it?

Billy Carson 1:25:39
They're 20 foot tungsten steel rods.

Alex Ferrari 1:25:41
So 20 foot. They use they

Billy Carson 1:25:43
use canal. They use kinetic energy.

Alex Ferrari 1:25:45
Of course, because you drop a pea.

Billy Carson 1:25:47
Right.

Alex Ferrari 1:25:47
Yeah, you drop a penny off the Empire State Building. It's going

Billy Carson 1:25:49
to go through your head if it hits you.

Alex Ferrari 1:25:50
Well, that's the theory. Is that real? Oh

Billy Carson 1:25:52
yeah. Well, you got free fall momentum. I mean, imagine getting well penny

Alex Ferrari 1:25:56
though.

Billy Carson 1:25:57
Imagine getting that's just like a bullet falling bullet. If it obtains, you know, free fall speed, so

Alex Ferrari 1:26:02
a 20 foot tungsten rod would be like a

Billy Carson 1:26:05
cutting through the air, straight down.

Alex Ferrari 1:26:07
It would be like a nuclear bomb going off,

Billy Carson 1:26:08
right? Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:26:09
without any fallout.

Billy Carson 1:26:10
With no fallout.

Alex Ferrari 1:26:12
Gee, that's scary. But you

Billy Carson 1:26:13
position that over any country and then make demands from that country and say, "Hey, we got it up there. What you gonna do? They're gonna have to fall in line."

Alex Ferrari 1:26:20
Because you can't. I mean, if you try to blow it out of the water, you can't

Billy Carson 1:26:22
stop them. You're not going to stop a 20-foot tungsten. You can't even see it. You can't track it quick enough to stop it. Wow! By the time your your ballistic missile gets up in the air to find it and try to heat seek it or whatever, it's it's already moved. There's

Alex Ferrari 1:26:37
no heat.

Billy Carson 1:26:38
There's no heat once it gets through the atmosphere.

Alex Ferrari 1:26:40
That's crazy. It's

Billy Carson 1:26:41
a deadly weapon.

Alex Ferrari 1:26:42
So, all right. So, how did that come in? So, why did you bring that up in regards to the disclosure?

Billy Carson 1:26:47
Disclosure. Well, there, you know, we could destroy ourselves. We're not trying to defend ourselves against any aliens. So they know that there's not this real quote-unquote deadly threat, supposedly from space. Independence

Alex Ferrari 1:27:00
Day. No.

Billy Carson 1:27:01
But they would have taken us out a long time ago, and they don't have to use weapons to do

Alex Ferrari 1:27:05
it. Right.

Billy Carson 1:27:05
They already know what our biological makeup is. They would just seed something in the water and in the air, and we'd be gone. Wait for the cleanup, or maybe it disintegrates our bodies. I mean, they're like War of the Worlds, right? Right. Exactly. Right. Yeah. So, so if that's the case, and they know this. Why are they painting the picture as this deadly alien invasion? And we got to have space weapons. And they're gonna now. So that's what they're using it for. The other aspect of it is they're also disclosing it because we're getting more technologically advanced, and we can see more more than ever. We can see through space. We can we can we have technology. We have private satellites now. We're gonna see this stuff, they know this, so they're getting ahead of it. So if that's the case, they're controlling the narrative and and getting ahead of it. And when I was a kid, I talked about for many years now when I saw this elongated egg type of a glowing metal thing, which just got came out in the recent data dump. Data dump. What I described, I finally saw it again for the first time in my life on the data dump, and I was like, "Holy crap, it's real!" Like what I saw a cigar, not an egg, but just slightly elongated, glowing metal. It exists. This was in '77, so it gave me some like some sanity, you know, because you always go, man. I wonder how you know was this thing real? I saw it twice in that one day when you left and then came back and hovered, but it's there, and it's like brings you to be like, oh my god, thank goodness, this is incredible. So, but what's happening is people are being seeded with the knowledge and information about it, and gradually over time, within the next 10 to 15 years, it's going to become a standard known reality that we're not alone in the universe. They disclosed life on Mars the same day and the same moment that Charlie Kirk got unalived.

Alex Ferrari 1:28:50
Wow!

Billy Carson 1:28:50
If you didn't know that,

Alex Ferrari 1:28:51
I didn't know that.

Billy Carson 1:28:52
It was a TV press release by NASA.

Alex Ferrari 1:28:55
So what was what did they find on Mars? Like bacteria,

Alex Ferrari 1:28:58
bacteria. Yeah, that makes sense. Which

Billy Carson 1:29:00
I predicted nine years ago on the podcast with Matthew LeCoire's going

Alex Ferrari 1:29:02
to be bacteria. I mean, Titan, there's bacteria, there's water. So if there's water, there has to be bacteria at one point and another. So they're

Billy Carson 1:29:08
now warming us up to alien life on Mars. Again, that came out at the same moment, live on TV. But of course, the Charlie Kirk situation took all the news. So there's life on Mars now. That's not, but nobody even you know knows, or if they do know, they're like, okay, yeah. But we're being warmed up into this disclosure gradually, and have been for quite some time, into accepting the fact that aliens exist, and people are now really coming to reconcile with it. They're like, I can hear people talking in restaurants. Oh yeah, aliens are real. Conversations you wouldn't have heard 10 years ago are happening now.

Alex Ferrari 1:29:39
Yeah,

Billy Carson 1:29:40
yeah. So it's it's all being being conditioned.

Alex Ferrari 1:29:43
Why do you do you think? What do you think the story truly is with Mars's history?

Billy Carson 1:29:49
Mars is a fantastic place. Mars was a habitable moon of Tiamat.

Alex Ferrari 1:29:54
Well, that was the that was the that's the belt, the asteroid belt that destroyed, right? Yeah, the

Billy Carson 1:29:58
asteroid belt is Tiamat. Right, a planet that was four to six times larger than Earth. If you take all the mass from the asteroid belt, you don't get a planet that size. But if you take the inner Oort cloud mass and add it to it, you do get a planet that size. There's an inner Oort cloud and an outer Oort cloud at the far edge of our solar system. That debris flew out from the explosion. Now Mars used to orbit that planet, and when that planet exploded from a collision with another object moving through our solar system, it charred one side of Mars and forced Mars to tilt 45 degrees on its axis and created a global flood on Mars. Okay, so that was the first time Mars got destroyed. The second time Mars got destroyed was in a war.

Alex Ferrari 1:30:37
Was there a life there? Was there life? There was life

Billy Carson 1:30:38
on Mars

Alex Ferrari 1:30:39
and life on the other

Billy Carson 1:30:40
and life on Tiamat. Tiamat, a huge chunk of it swung away, and gravitationally was so large it forced Mercury closer to the sun and Venus closer to the sun. We took the third location. We weren't even here yet. Now, what's crazy in the Enuma Elish? It talks about this, and it says that Tiamat was so beautiful with the water and the sun shining on it, that it rivaled the sun's glory. Well, who saw that, and from what position? Because Earth didn't exist yet before it happened. So, who saw that, and from where were they looking at it from space? Big question. Now, as Earth, it says it took water and land and life along with it, re-coalesced, and became the Earth. This is why my hypothesis. Now, you go down into some of these mines where they've been digging. They go down 200 million, 300 million, 500 million years down in the depth of the layers, and they find artifacts. Are those artifacts from Earth, or are those artifacts from when we were part of Tiamat?

Alex Ferrari 1:31:36
So Earth was actually part of Tiamat.

Billy Carson 1:31:39
That's right. We're living on Tiamat, the remnant of Tiamat, right now.

Alex Ferrari 1:31:42
So then, it just over, and this is talking about millions and millions of years. It turned into the Earth that we know today,

Billy Carson 1:31:48
right? Exactly,

Alex Ferrari 1:31:49
and brought it all in.

Billy Carson 1:31:50
And so, could some of these artifacts found on those deep layers, going back hundreds of millions of years, be artifacts from when this planet was part of another planet?

Alex Ferrari 1:31:59
That's fascinating.

Billy Carson 1:32:00
Something to research.

Alex Ferrari 1:32:01
So then, yeah, because I always say the face in Mars is one thing, and they're seeing straight straight angles.

Billy Carson 1:32:08
Oh, there are a lot of quote unquote pyramids there. Cydonia is a place that has a structure that that resembles pyramids, resembles straight lines at 19.5 degree angles, and if you take the ordinance map of Abury in the UK, where they have these mounds and these 19.5 degree roads that were not roads but but paths that were kind of carved into the ground there and field, and you shrink that ordinance map down and put it over Cydonia, it matches.

Alex Ferrari 1:32:35
Interesting.

Billy Carson 1:32:36
So Cydonia and Abury, UK, are a mirror of each other. How did they do that? And who knew what was going on on Mars? What is the ancient name for Cydonia? What what is the what is the ancient name for Cairo? Sidonia.

Alex Ferrari 1:32:52
So all the stuff you're talking about, Tiamat and all that, that's in the ancient text.

Billy Carson 1:32:58
It's in the Enuma Elish and the seven tablets of creation,

Alex Ferrari 1:33:01
and where those are

Billy Carson 1:33:03
these? That's a British Museum.

Speaker 3 1:33:04
Of

Billy Carson 1:33:05
course,

Alex Ferrari 1:33:08
had my kids with me. I couldn't go around as far as I wanted to, and it was pretty busy today. It's busy as hell.

Billy Carson 1:33:13
It's busy. It's busy. It's free. It's it's incredible. It's free,

Alex Ferrari 1:33:17
man. Anybody can go in.

Billy Carson 1:33:18
Anybody can go in and get that knowledge.

Alex Ferrari 1:33:20
It's crazy. Yeah, that's a beautiful. That's a beautiful thing that they do. So, man, that's a lot.

Billy Carson 1:33:27
I know. So, do

Alex Ferrari 1:33:29
you think that we'll get to Mars?

Billy Carson 1:33:30
Oh, for sure. In our

Alex Ferrari 1:33:31
lifetime.

Billy Carson 1:33:32
In our lifetime, for sure. But I believe that we've already been there. We already are there. We meaning private corporations in the military-industrial complex. There are anomalies on Mars that I've been tracking with a group of 15 people, and we call ourselves the United Family of Anomaly Hunters. And a lot of our discoveries have made it to Huffington Post, CNN, Fox News, L.A. Times, New York Times, New York Post. We've been in a lot of write-ups. Some of our stuff has made it to Ancient Aliens TV show. Our anomalies; these are things that are out of place objects that shouldn't be there, things that appear to be like statues and structures and other things that don't match the background surrounding terrain, but are definitely coming from the rover images and the gigapans done by Neville Thompson.

Alex Ferrari 1:34:14
Well, let me ask you this: Titan is the closest thing we understand. At least this is my rudimentary understanding of Titan, which is off of Jupiter or Saturn.

Billy Carson 1:34:24
Saturn off a Saturn,

Alex Ferrari 1:34:25
right? So it's a moon off of Saturn, but it is an ice world essentially.

Billy Carson 1:34:29
Titan is not an ice world. It's liquid, liquid. They're calling it liquid propane. They're saying that the lakes and the rivers and the oceans are made of propane.

Alex Ferrari 1:34:42
Okay,

Billy Carson 1:34:42
that's what they say.

Alex Ferrari 1:34:43
Okay, when

Billy Carson 1:34:43
the Huygens probe descended, I downloaded the Huygens probe data from the European Space Agency. You see it as it's descending, and it's you can see the the horizon, and you can see the mountains.

Alex Ferrari 1:34:53
The video you got the video, yeah.

Billy Carson 1:34:54
It doesn't look like standard rocks in some areas. Look like. Constructed, you can see 90 degree angles. Put it that way, it lands on the shoreline partly in this water, which they're calling prop liquid propane. By the way, would you send a device that runs on electricity to land in a propane lake?

Alex Ferrari 1:35:16
No.

Billy Carson 1:35:17
What's going to happen? You can destroy the entire planet or the moon,

Alex Ferrari 1:35:22
right? Because it'll pop off.

Billy Carson 1:35:24
Exactly, the whole thing goes up in flames.

Alex Ferrari 1:35:27
Right, especially with the crash.

Billy Carson 1:35:28
They're not tell. They're not. They're not telling us the truth. Okay, Venus. Russia sent 14 missions to Venus. America tells us that Venus is just is raining liquid iron, and it's the the pressure is so great it will crush anything instantaneously, but yet Russia landed on Venus several times, the Venera 14 mission, Venera you know 10, 13, 14, all those missions land. One landed and took video footage, and you can see an object that's moving around the surface. What what is that? What's moving around on Venus that shouldn't be? And how did the object, the the Venus lander land? And how did it land with a parachute? If it's raining liquid iron, we should make all the buildings out of that parachute material, don't you think? We should be wearing that parachute material for clothing. It'd be bulletproof. So there's more lies.

Alex Ferrari 1:36:23
So you think there's more life in our in our solar system?

Billy Carson 1:36:26
There's so much life above right above our heads, and they keep us distracted. We found potential life on a 20 million light year away planet. It's got all the science needed for life. The

Alex Ferrari 1:36:35
Goldilocks zone. Yeah, the

Billy Carson 1:36:36
Goldilocks zone. 20 million light years away, right above our heads. I believe there's life right here in the solar system.

Alex Ferrari 1:36:43
Interesting.

Billy Carson 1:36:44
My personal opinion.

Alex Ferrari 1:36:45
So, where do you what do you think people should do to kind of prepare? Because a lot of people are afraid because of all the propaganda and all the the movies and all this kind of stuff. What do you think we we could do to prepare for real disclosure, full disclosure? Because we're still not there yet.

Billy Carson 1:37:02
Right. I think people should start researching the the encounters. People who have given first and secondhand accounts of what they saw, what they believe, anything from the Roswell incident on up, just start becoming a studious and a student of the information, and gain and grow your own perspective and your own opinion based on what what documents are are already out here. There's a lot of information out here now. A lot of it's been put into ways that you can really digest it easily. I'm not telling people to sit down and read through very dry, you know, you know, documents coming from released from the FBI or .gov or whatever, right? Declassified documents, but there's enough out there where they can begin to learn about some reputable locations and sites. They can you can learn enough about it to make themselves familiar with it. Because once you become familiar with something, it's less scary. It's just less scary. They're like, oh, I see. This is something that's been happening for 1000s of years. You know, if if Christopher Columbus talks about this object coming up out of the ocean in 1492 and lighting up the sky when light bulbs didn't exist at the time.

Alex Ferrari 1:38:05
He did.

Billy Carson 1:38:06
Yeah, it's in his captain's log, and captains are just write crap like that in your log. Like that's your that's like your Bible.

Alex Ferrari 1:38:12
Sure.

Billy Carson 1:38:13
So when you write something in your captain's log, like that's like that's the truth. It's what you experienced, what you saw. The queen is going to read this log, or the king is going to read this log when you get back to port, and so it is in his log. What in the world could come up out of the ocean and light up the sky?

Alex Ferrari 1:38:28
So, so let me ask you: with with disclosure coming, what is that going to do to our spiritual life? Because that's going to throw a lot of things. I mean, you know what those aliens need? They need Jesus. Well, that's what the

Billy Carson 1:38:44
Pope

Alex Ferrari 1:38:45
said, right? We need to turn these aliens into Christians. They put

Billy Carson 1:38:48
out a press release years ago that said we can't wait to baptize the first alien. Yeah, that's what they said.

Alex Ferrari 1:38:55
I mean, I can't, I can't.

Billy Carson 1:38:58
So again, they're trying to get ahead of it already. It's incredible. Like you think the alien is going to go into sit in your tub and get baptized by you, a being that can travel and traverse the distances of vast distance of space and time is going to come all the way through a wormhole to get baptized by a priest. I mean, come on.

Alex Ferrari 1:39:15
Yeah, you know.

Billy Carson 1:39:16
So, but the thing is, it's going to create a void, a split. There's going to be some people that become very scared and and and but also awaken to it and drop their religion and maybe become more spiritual. And then there'll be others that will become zealots of their religion, thinking this is the end times and this Satan has returned to Earth or something.

Alex Ferrari 1:39:36
And these guys are Satan,

Billy Carson 1:39:37
right?

Alex Ferrari 1:39:37
Of course,

Billy Carson 1:39:38
exactly.

Alex Ferrari 1:39:38
Of course.

Billy Carson 1:39:39
So there's going to be a. But we're

Alex Ferrari 1:39:40
Satan, honestly. I mean, we're talking doing the devil's work here,

Billy Carson 1:39:42
right? Right, exactly. God forbid we talk about this kind of stuff,

Alex Ferrari 1:39:46
love and Jesus and stuff. We can't talk about that. You can't talk about it. No, don't

Billy Carson 1:39:49
do that. So there'll be a divide where people will become more spiritual and drop their religions, and people will become more religious and become zealots.

Alex Ferrari 1:39:57
And then, and then there's the AI zealots, which. It'll be another situation. It'll be the AI zealous

Billy Carson 1:40:02
that'll be completely worshiping an AI god and asking what they should do moment to moment.

Alex Ferrari 1:40:06
So then there will be like if there was like let's say there's an alien species that comes in right now, there will be a group of human beings that will absolutely worship them.

Billy Carson 1:40:14
Oh, for sure.

Alex Ferrari 1:40:15
There's no question.

Billy Carson 1:40:16
Instantaneous cargo cult. Instant. Oh yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:40:18
Instant. Do you ever watch that movie from the '80s called Alien Nation?

Billy Carson 1:40:23
Alienation? No, I didn't see that one. It is

Alex Ferrari 1:40:24
a movie with James Con.

Billy Carson 1:40:26
Okay,

Alex Ferrari 1:40:27
this is like '89, if I'm not mistaken. Wow, I was I was working the video store back then.

Billy Carson 1:40:31
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:40:31
and it was uh it was him and Manny Potemkin, and Manny Potemkin played an alien. But the world, the sci-fi world that it created was like I think they were in L.A. or New York, and they're cops partners.

Billy Carson 1:40:46
Oh wow!

Alex Ferrari 1:40:47
Because the aliens have integrated in human society. Oh,

Billy Carson 1:40:50
I gotta watch this.

Alex Ferrari 1:40:51
So it's all and it's like you know, and there's like crime lords who are aliens, and there's good people who are aliens, and there's cops who are aliens, and like they're dealing with like racism,

Billy Carson 1:41:01
oh man, because because oh yeah, because they're like,

Alex Ferrari 1:41:03
oh god, is that alien cop? They're like that kind of. Oh no, it's it's crazy. Sounds like it was

Billy Carson 1:41:09
ahead of its time.

Alex Ferrari 1:41:09
Oh, hugely ahead of its time. But I just remember that I was like, that's a real. I I haven't seen that movie since the 80s.

Billy Carson 1:41:16
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:41:16
but it it was one of those ideas I never got. It never left. Yeah, give me the

Billy Carson 1:41:21
name again.

Alex Ferrari 1:41:21
Alienation.

Billy Carson 1:41:22
I'll never forget it. Okay, I'm gonna watch that. Wow. Yeah, two movies to watch on your way home. That's crazy.

Alex Ferrari 1:41:26
Alienation. It's called with James Conner, Manny Potemkin as the alien, and it's it is it was. I remember it being pretty. It's 80s.

Billy Carson 1:41:33
Yeah, yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:41:34
So it's like an 80s action movie.

Billy Carson 1:41:35
Yeah, yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:41:36
But the concept that they were talking about and it was pretty

Billy Carson 1:41:39
yeah fascinating.

Billy Carson 1:41:41
I remember a good movie called Alien Mind, and this was a crashed American, crashed human American, and a crashed reptilian type alien on a moon, and they end up as enemies.

Alex Ferrari 1:41:53
Oh, enemy mind.

Billy Carson 1:41:54
Enemy mind. Enemy mind. Ah, so yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:41:55
Dennis Quaid. Is that Dennis Quaid? Dennis Quaid. What's it? Man, I see that. Kind of like alien. I'm like no enemy mind. I remember enemy mind, enemy mind. Oh yeah,

Billy Carson 1:42:03
because it dealt with you know it dealt with what we're facing on Earth, right? These opposing opinions about each other, these these concepts and lies that we've been told about each other that want us to fight each other and be against each other, be our enemies. When in actuality, we've come to find out that we're all one and the same.

Alex Ferrari 1:42:20
So there's a movie I just found out about with Steve McQueen, and he plays a World War II soldier who's trapped on an island, and the only other person on the island

Billy Carson 1:42:32
is

Alex Ferrari 1:42:32
a Japanese soldier.

Billy Carson 1:42:34
Oh man, it's the same kind of concept,

Alex Ferrari 1:42:36
and it's it's exact same concept. It's the same movie. They just remade it. It's the same movie, dude. It's the same movie, but it's the guy who played in all the Kurosawa movies,

Billy Carson 1:42:45
the

Alex Ferrari 1:42:45
Samurai.

Billy Carson 1:42:46
Oh, that guy's amazing. Yeah, I don't know his

Alex Ferrari 1:42:48
name. Mushito, God, Moshito, something like that. Yeah, but you don't talk about it. He's a billionaire,

Billy Carson 1:42:52
actually.

Alex Ferrari 1:42:53
That guy.

Billy Carson 1:42:53
Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:42:53
Yeah, he was the other guy.

Billy Carson 1:42:55
Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:42:56
And there's no dialog in the entire movie.

Billy Carson 1:42:58
Wow.

Alex Ferrari 1:42:58
Because he can't speak.

Billy Carson 1:42:59
Oh man.

Alex Ferrari 1:43:00
So the whole movie has no dialog in it.

Billy Carson 1:43:02
Oh wow!

Alex Ferrari 1:43:02
And they're just trying to figure each other out. First, they're trying to fight. Then they become friends because someone else, and they're trying to communicate because they can't speak. So there's no barely any dialog.

Billy Carson 1:43:11
Wow!

Alex Ferrari 1:43:12
Isn't that crazy?

Billy Carson 1:43:12
Yeah, it's the same. It's the same movie. Exactly. Same concept.

Alex Ferrari 1:43:15
Same comic. Less aliens. It teaches you a

Billy Carson 1:43:17
lot. Yeah, less. It teaches you a lot about

Alex Ferrari 1:43:19
humanity.

Billy Carson 1:43:19
Humanity. That's what it does. It's great teaching tools.

Alex Ferrari 1:43:22
Yeah, man, it's that's remarkable, Billy. Man, like I always say, man, I could talk to you for days and days and days. Where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing in the world?

Billy Carson 1:43:33
They can go to my website number 4forbiddenknowledge.ai with the number 4 4biddenknowledge.ai, and all of my information is there.

Alex Ferrari 1:43:41
Is .com still there?

Billy Carson 1:43:43
.com is still there, but it redirects to .ai.

Alex Ferrari 1:43:44
Oh, really? So everything's now moved over to AI.

Billy Carson 1:43:47
Everything's moved over to .ai, and you can link to my streaming TV app there, my my online academy, my tours, books, podcasts from Next Level Soul will be interlinked in the you know in the appearances site and everything else, and my bio and all about our company, and also information about our our stock symbol.

Alex Ferrari 1:44:04
Oh, listen, bro, I I appreciate you coming on, man. It is always a joy having you in the studio. Anytime you're in Austin, you you know it's an open open door welcome,

Billy Carson 1:44:12
Thank you

Alex Ferrari 1:44:13
To be here, man. So I appreciate you and and all the all the amazing hard work you're doing to help awaken the planet, man.

Billy Carson 1:44:18
Thank you, brother. Appreciate it. Thank you, brother. I'm looking forward to coming back again.