Alex Ferrari 0:00
Right now, humanity is feeling emotionally exhausted.

Sara Landon 0:04
We are now in a time where we're experiencing our own sovereignty. As long as you have people that are willing to give their power and their freedom to others, there will always be those who want to take that power and freedom. One of the most difficult things in the human experience is loving yourself. Sometimes we have these unconscious habits of our first step is to deny love for ourself in some way, living fully in the new earth that is going to inspire some of the greatest expansion on your planet.

Alex Ferrari 0:44
Why do you think that we feel so disconnected from ourselves?

Sara Landon 0:50
Two things...

Alex Ferrari 1:02
I like to welcome back to the show returning champion Sara Landon. How you doing, Sarah?

Sara Landon 1:07
Hi, Alex. I'm so happy and excited to be here. I love you. You're a Next Level Soul community, and I know it's going to be another amazing conversation.

Alex Ferrari 1:17
Well, no pressure, but yes, I agree with you. It's always, it's always a pleasure having you on the show, Sara. You've been so kind to us at Next Level Soul, and we've done so many collaborations. We have a few other collaborations coming in the future that we're going to be doing, which will be announced later, but we're very excited to have you on, and it's been a minute, I think it's since you were your last time, you were on the show,

Sara Landon 1:42
About a year,

Alex Ferrari 1:43
Ascension, yeah, when you were here with Ascension, and that was the last time, and you would have been here in person, but scheduling and other stuff had to happen, but we'll get you back in here, don't worry, so I wanted to talk to the council first and foremost, because I talked to you first, and want to hear your thoughts. Obviously, it's not just about the council, but I wanted to hear

Sara Landon 2:06
About the council. Let's be honest,

Alex Ferrari 2:09
But I want to hear, I want to hear your, your thoughts right now on what is really truly happening around the world right now, because there is a lot of insanity, and it's not that it hasn't been insane before. It's been insane since we threw the first rock out of the cave. It's always been crazy, but we're more hyper aware of all of this, and it seems like right now humanity is feeling emotionally exhausted. What is your take on this, and what advice do you have for people who are just like I don't know how much market I mean it's been a wild ride since I mean arguably 2012 kind of started 22,000 started but 2012 and then 2016 and then obviously from the 20s have been just every year it's been amping up every I still remember people are like I can't wait to get out of 2025 and I'm like, like, they're like, "Oh, thank God, we're out of 2025. I'm like, "Are you sure? Like, so it's been ramping up, and I have exhaustion. I'm sure you have exhaustion of it all. And we don't even watch the news all the time. We're not in all the negative stuff all the time, and we're still having a lot of that energy just by living in the world we're living in. So, your advice for people who feel emotionally exhausted, and what can we do about it?

Sara Landon 3:28
Two things, and I'm probably going to offer you a few different things than what you might normally hear as an answer, which I certainly agree with. I think there is an elevation of consciousness going on on the planet? I think that the polarity and the gap between love and fear is becoming so obvious that we're choosing love. I think that the gap between peace and chaos is becoming so obvious that more and more people are choosing peace. I think there's two really important things going on. I think number one is we are now in a time where we're experiencing our own sovereignty, and the council will say that while most all people on the planet want freedom, it's one of the things we fear the most, and we don't quite know what to do with when we're actually in the realization of our own freedom and sovereignty, and so they've said, while there may have been contracts, and there may have been karma, and there may have been things you have chosen to work through in this life, you're now completely and totally free and a sovereign being on earth, and so you have absolutely the free will to choose, and so you have the free will to choose to entangle with the chaos, and you have the free will to choose. Choose to stress and worry about things, but we really are free, and what we want the most as a human family is sometimes the things we fear the most or feels uncomfortable. So, someone asked the council, How do we get rid of all of these dictators and people on earth that want to control and take people's freedom, and the council's answer was, as long as you have people that are willing to give their power and their freedom to others, there will always be those who want to take that power and freedom from the people who don't want the responsibility of being free and having their own power, but that's really our opportunity, and I think on the deepest level everything that's going on is all about energy, it's all about power, it's all about freedom, it's our call, it's our invitation to really explore that within ourselves, explore what it means within yourself to have all of your energy here serving you, exploring within yourself what it really means to be in your power and not give your power away to things on the news or things happening in the world, exploring what it's really like to be free to choose the life you want. Most of us really do have that opportunity, and yet we get stuck in these habits or patterns of choosing what we don't want again and again and again, and what we don't want keeps showing up, so it takes a bit of slowing down and letting the outside world be what it is, the outside world, and really going within, and I am one of those people that the last two things I want to hear is slow down and go within. I also, you know, when people say, How do you make sure that you know you're not spiritually bypassing? I sort of laugh, and you can't spiritually bypass what's really going on if you try, because something throughout your day will trigger you, will upset you, will trip you up, and my favorite question is, What is this really about that gives me permission to slow down and go within, and to stay conscious and stay present. What is this really about? What is this really about? The other thing I want to add is so beyond the term self love, but I want to make it easy for people to understand. I see it as this unwavering love for yourself.

Sara Landon 8:04
I think one of the most difficult things in the human experience is to completely, totally, fully love yourself, no matter what, no matter what's going on in your body, no matter what's going on with your finances, no matter what's going on in your relationship, no matter what's going on in the world, sometimes we have these unconscious habits of our first step is to deny love for ourself in some way, something's going on out there in the world, and yet you deny yourself the joy of going for a nice peaceful walk with your dog, because you're so stressed about what's going on in the world, or something that upset you, and so it really is up to us, and taking complete and total responsibility for our freedom, for our sovereignty, for our own personal power, for our own energy. Everything on the planet is about energy right now. And what are you giving your energy to? What are you entangling with, or are you really starting to open up and see how all of your energy really is here supporting you, if you allow it, and you allow it most easily by doing what brings you joy, by choosing your life. In fact, the council started to shift a lot from creating your reality to it's all here for you to choose, it's even easier now. Choose your reality. There's more potential, more possibilities. Choose

Alex Ferrari 9:50
Sara why are we so afraid of the power that we have with inside us?

Sara Landon 9:55
You know, I'll tell you a story. When I was. Seven years old, my mom and I went to my aunt and uncle's wedding, and they lived on a horse farm in another state, and I was just in awe and in love with my mom's side of the family, many of that who I hadn't spent much time with I was in awe and in love with the horses and the land, and I remember the night of the wedding when I was seven years old, going, I want to live here, I want this to be my life. We went back home, and within a month, my parents ended up getting divorced, and my mom and I actually moved to live with my mom's family on that horse ranch, and I didn't know this for many years, but when I would talk to my dad and he would be so sad because I was no longer part of his everyday life, and he went through a lot emotionally and financially, and it was a very, very difficult time in his life, in my life, in all of our lives, but on some very, very unconscious, innocent level, I felt like me wanting to live on the horse farm with my mom's family is what hurt my dad so bad and caused all the sadness for him and for me and for so many people, and I wasn't aware of it for many years, until I started to explore that question of how powerful are you really, can you really have anything you want, can it really be that easy that you go, I choose this and you can have it, and all of that happened within 30 days within a month, and so we may not be aware of how we, how, or why we are actually afraid of our power. Some people may say it may be something even before this life experience. I also find it kind of interesting when people talk about past lives. Have you noticed this? Everybody kind of always is a victim in their past life,

Alex Ferrari 12:32
Or famous, or famous,

Sara Landon 12:33
Or famous, or Cleopatra.

Alex Ferrari 12:37
Yeah, we're all Cleopatra, Joan of Arc, Alexander the Great. Yes, absolutely,

Sara Landon 12:40
Alexander the Great, right, but my aunt, who was on a very spiritual path, many, many years ago, I remember one time I said, I just love animals so much, and she said I was probably like 10 years old, she said, Well, that's probably because you were cruel and harmed animals in your past life, and I was like, what, or

Alex Ferrari 13:06
you could have just loved animals,

Sara Landon 13:10
but we don't really know sometimes where some of these things come from. It could, it be past lives, could it be things in childhood, could it be something unconscious, could it be these patterns that you learned or habits that you learned that you know being powerful gets you in trouble, using your power can hurt other people, and so we fear it, and we stay unconscious and unaware of it. Instead of that, what is this really about? And sometimes it's these very subtle things that are, that are so big, really, but when you let them come to the light, it's like this, oh, wow, that makes sense. And then you can let it go.

Alex Ferrari 13:59
So, Sara, do you think a little bit of this also has to do with just the programming that we have been taught,

Sara Landon 14:04
For sure, right, that we're taught, and yeah, yeah, absolutely. And everybody has a different experience, you know. I, I feel like I had some awareness and support as a child, that I could be anything I wanted to be, and yet I think we do pick up these beliefs and habits and learn stories that keep us small and keep us from really realizing our power and I think it's more of that than this external negative force that's trying to keep us small. I think it's these little tiny habits that we learn and pick up along the way, for example. I heard someone say, oh, I'm just never been.. I've never been good with numbers, I've never been able to remember things. When our brain is recording and storing everything that we're experiencing with our physical senses all day long, more than you could ever possibly imagine, and so we learn these just even little phrases that sometimes keep us small, and so it's it's being aware of it and being aware of how you feel when you say something. Oh, I've just never been good at that. That doesn't really feel very good, versus give you another example. It has never dawned on me to be an artist. It has never dawned on me to paint. My story would have probably been that as a kid I was much more into math and science than art and painting, and someone, quote unquote, accidentally sent me a book, not realizing it was a learn how to paint book, and I open it up, and I'm reading and looking through, and I'm like, I could learn how to paint, that might be fun, versus, but I also, the thought came up. Oh, I'm not, I'm not good at art, I'm not good at painting, but I was like, I don't think that's a true thought. I'm not sure if that's real, that's something I learned, and I can tell you the exact person who was like, we're just not very artistic, our family. I remember that when I was a kid, and so what if what if you take the one thing that you have this story about, oh, I've never been good at this or that, and what if you go, what if I am, what if I explore it, and I, and I explore it just because it's fun, what if I actually am really good at remembering names, right? What if I really am good at remembering numbers? Just play with it, play with it. It, we are so powerful. I think one of the things that surprises me in having taught over 6000 people at this point in time how to open their own connection to source, divine, their higher self, their soul, their loved ones on the other side is this sort of, oh, my guides are these big powerful beings, and I'm just this powerless small being, who am I to receive a message from source or my higher self, and yet that's exactly how we intended to navigate this human experience, knowing our power, knowing all that's here for us, letting our own energy serve us. Alex, I was sharing a story with you before we went online, and it has so much to do with opening up to letting our energy serve us, and I had this huge epiphany, thanks to my intelligent body, human body, all the ways that I was supplementing getting energy from sources outside of myself that just seemed like, oh, well, that's fine, you just caffeine, and these are, you know, supplements and these things, so that's those are healthy, that's fine, you can take those things, but my body was really opening up to all of my own source energy, and yet I was still trying to get all this energy from things outside of me. My body just said wait, no. And as soon as I went, oh, that's what this is about, everything changed. So I think these are really exciting times. I think amazing things are happening. It's all happening for us. I am the last person that wants to hear slow down and go within, but there is so much. It's so fascinating when you do what really comes to the light.

Alex Ferrari 19:20
Sara, what's interesting about what you said about your story about the supplements is I didn't put these together, but as a channel you absorb a lot of energy on a daily basis, so your nervous system is obviously tuned to all of this now, and it's, it can handle it, but it does stress, I don't know if it stresses the body, but it does definitely do something to the body, and you've gotten used to it after a while, obviously, because when you told me, and I've heard this from other channels, it's like your nervous system has to kind of get up a tolerance to handle higher vibrations and higher frequencies of messages or energy flowing through you, but that this still takes. A toll on the body itself, it might, it's not like a negative thing, but it does, just when you work out, you, you, you are exerting energy, so that in addition to stimulants like caffeine or vitamin B, or extra obscene amounts of vitamin D, or other things like that, I have to imagine that that was probably what happened to you, is you had, yeah, it was this horrible perfect storm that kind of came eventually.

Sara Landon 20:29
Oh, absolutely. And I think this is happening with everybody, because we are in higher vibrations, higher frequencies, higher levels of consciousness. The way I would, I didn't realize this until you just brought it up the way you did. It's, it's like the spectrum of being in higher vibrations and higher levels of consciousness, and how my body feels in those environments versus what might be the opposite end of the spectrum, which is fight or flight, and in fear it feels so awful to my body now to feel like that, that this, the gap is so wide now. I, the example I'm getting is I went to this spa one time where you sit in this sauna until you're so hot that you can't stand it anymore, and then you go jump in a cold plunge that is as cold as it can possibly be, and you stay in there until you can't stand it anymore, and it's so painful because it's so hot and it's so cold, but I think this is part of what's going on, more so than all the things that are happening in the outside world, but as we are raising our own levels of consciousness, so many more of our own energy, more often in higher vibrations and frequencies, that to be in the density and the heaviness that takes its toll on your physical body, it's, it's, it's almost like my body's completely unwilling to, to go there anymore, and I notice it so much faster because it's so uncomfortable, and it's not about anything in the outside world, as much as it's our own perspective of, is this, you know, dangerous, is this fear, is this pain, is this whatever, right? So it is to me creating that new set point that peace is the set point not because peace is the bottom of the spectrum, but because we're coming into a level of consciousness and vibration and frequency where instead of going down, and I think it is a habit and learned behavior of going into fear or going into fight or flight because of our perspective or how we're seeing something that what if that set point becomes peace, because again, if we go back to I'll just speak for myself, if I see something on the television or news, or I hear something or read something about bombing or wars and those things. What do I want? I want peace. I want peace for all beings on earth. I want peace for the animals. I want peace for our world. So we've got to create that first within ourselves. We've got to choose that first within ourselves, and really starting to be aware that what if that's your foundation is your own inner peace, peace within yourself, and that we start to create the habit, just like the habit of going into fear. What if we create the habit of whatever's going on, we go to peace first, and then let that level of awareness and consciousness be what guides our next step, our action, not taking action out of fear or reaction or being triggered, but taking action from our own place of peace, because that's what we want in the world.

Alex Ferrari 24:25
Why do you think that we feel so disconnected from ourselves? So many ways that we, we don't love ourselves again. We've been conditioned to not like the way we look, especially in the West. We don't like the way we look, we're too old, or we're too fat, or we're too this, or we're too tall, or we're too short, or the wrong race, or the wrong this, or that not have enough money. There's always some reason to dislike us ourselves. I always tell people that we are.. if I had a friend who spoke to me the way I. Speak to myself, I would never have that person in my life, and that's so true for most people. Why, why can't.. why is it so difficult for us to love ourselves and to be connected to who we truly are?

Sara Landon 25:13
I think that's such a great question. And again, I'm going to tell you a story. I've had a lot of epiphanies lately. Can you tell, so my dad transitioned in January 10 of this year after a lengthy journey with cancer, and at the end of his life experience he was very, very thin, very, very frail, had lost a ton, a ton of weight, and the other day I saw this picture of him, probably seven years ago, and it just, he looked so great, he looked so happy, he looked so healthy, but I also remember that when I took that picture, he said, "Oh, I'll look fat in that picture, and all the years of him wanting to be in good shape and be healthy, and always looking at the first thing he saw when he saw a picture was, did he look, did he look good or not, did he look overweight, and yet after these years of going through this journey with cancer, gosh, he looked so good when he had a few extra pounds and looked so healthy, right? And so I do think again, these are habits we learn that this person that's skinny is happy, or this person that's pretty or handsome is happy, and we're unhappy because we don't look like that when it has nothing to do with that, and so I think two things are going on here, I think everything that we say we want, want to experience, we want to open to our connection to source, or hear our guides, or hear guidance from our soul. From my perspective, the path to that is creating this unwavering love for yourself that you do not doubt or deny love for yourself for any reason, it's easier, I think, to practice that, being aware of when you deny love for yourself for the silliest things, right? You look in the mirror and you look a little tired. Oh, I'm not going to love myself today, or you look in the mirror and had a few extra desserts over the weekend, and you're like, oh, I'm not going to love myself today. It's the silliest thing ever. The council has recently said one of the most difficult things in the human experience is loving yourself. And then they said, "Does that surprise you? And then they said, "Can you imagine a humanity where all beings had this love for themselves, such that they could truly be the source of love in the world. They actually have said that you're actually not here to give love or get love, but that's how we've learned to interpret love. Am I giving it, or do I need to get it?

Alex Ferrari 28:36
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Sara Landon 28:58
And they said it's neither, you're here to be the source of love, you're here to be the source of love, but you, that source of love, when you allow it for yourself first, then it flows through you into everything around you, but you can't be denying love for yourself and giving love to someone else and feel in harmony. Doesn't work that way, right? You have to embody it for yourself first. You have to be the source of love in your own life first, and the easiest way I found to do that is to notice, and it's usually from some very silly reason why you're denying love for yourself. The other part of this that I think is almost this call to action right now is that we really are being. Been given the greatest opportunity to open to our own connection to source and the divine. I'm sure you've noticed this as well. There's just so much information out there, and I watch Feeble. It was just an observation. I was watching, I was on an elliptical machine at the gym, and there were people in front of me, and I was watching them. They're all on their phone, and I can see them just swiping through things, and just swiping through Instagram, swiping through YouTube videos, and.. and I was like, oh, wow, do I do that? So I started to be really aware of it, and then I started to realize how much information we're taking in all day long on social media on all these different podcasts and things that we can watch, and so we're taking in all this information and doing, I'm checking if this is the right word, little to nothing with it, I think people are acting less on right, the wisdom and the information they have than ever before, because there's so much of it, they don't know what to do, and so again, all the information in the world is fine, but unless you actually apply it in your life and live it, your life doesn't change, and so people are saying, well, I listen to all this stuff, and all this stuff, and my life's not changing. This is really a time to implement this wisdom that is your wisdom, and embody this wisdom that is your wisdom. Most importantly, for you to create and choose the life you want to live, because, and I think there's a really interesting, something really interesting going on around this right now, because it's like, how are you embodying this wisdom such that you're living the life you want and creating the life you want, and that when we are living in peace and harmony and joy, doing what we love with the people that we love, allowing abundance in our life, knowing our own power, loving ourselves, living the life we want, that is a pathway for any and everyone else who's choosing it to create that for themselves too, and so when we are denying our power, when we're denying our joy, think about it like that's what you're contributing to the people that you love the most. If you say, what do I most want for the people that I love? One of the things I most want for the people that I love is I really want them to have the ability to do what they're inspired to do to create what they're inspired to create. We feel really passionate about that, not this. You have to work for 30 or 40 years and earn and save in order to go on a trip to a place that you feel called to. I really think we're getting to a time in the world, especially with technology and AI, and all the innovation and advancements going on, that we are going to all live in a much higher level of abundance, and we're all going to have more time. What are you going to do with it? And so we're being called right now to really embody doing what brings us joy and doing what we love, because that's where we're going is a time where we're going to have a lot more abundance and a lot more resources and opportunities and innovation, and I do believe things like AI are going to make it much more cost effective for all people to live at a higher standard of living, so what are you going to do with it if, if you're again back to being afraid of your freedom, right? There's an old saying, and I'm sure you're familiar with it, right? An idle mind is what the devil's workshop, right?

Alex Ferrari 34:22
The devil's hand, yeah, the idol,

Sara Landon 34:23
Devil's whatever, right. So it's like, what did that mean? It's like when you are given total freedom, what do you do with it? If you don't believe you're worthy of doing what you love and doing what brings you joy, you're going to struggle if you start right now to do those things you love throughout the day, to do the things that bring you joy, and to really realize you already have the freedom to choose those things. Then, as we step into more and more being possible, we're not carrying those old. Habits and limited beliefs into this new abundant world. I think we're collectively choosing.

Alex Ferrari 35:08
There is a song from 1999 I think you might know it. It's called The Sunscreen Song. Do you remember that?

Sara Landon 35:16
I think you should sing it for us.

Alex Ferrari 35:18
I wish I could, but I will not, I will not, I will not do that to the audience.

Sara Landon 35:24
All right, tell me some lyrics. Maybe I'll..

Alex Ferrari 35:26
Well, the reason it's called Class of 99 and in it, it's basically.. was a.. it was written by a journalist at the Chicago Tribune, and it was like an article, and then Baz Luhrmann, the famous director of, like, Moulin Rouge and Elvis, and that he took it and made it into a song, and it was a huge hit in 99 and it just basically is life lessons all the way across. And when you were saying the story, it brought to my eyes, she said, she says she's like, you will look back on your pictures of you today in a way that you don't understand now how amazing you really looked,

Sara Landon 36:01
Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 36:01
How, how, how much you will kill to look like that again. And I remember looking at pictures of myself when I was in my 20s and 30s, going, "Oh my god, this or that. And now I look at those same pictures, I'm like, I would kill to look like that again, I would kill to have that hair again, I would kill to have all of that again. It's, it's fascinating, and she also said in there, stretch, which is also a good piece of advice for everybody, that was the only thing, stretch, just stretch, but it's so true, we are so difficult, we're so tough on ourselves, it's, it's, we're brutal, brutal, abusive to ourselves, and I hope that what you just said enlightens a few people, to say the least. To be a bit kinder to ourselves, because if we can't be kind to ourselves, to be honest with you, it's very difficult to be kind to others.

Sara Landon 36:51
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 36:52
You know,

Sara Landon 36:52
Well, that's the thing, and I think there's one little piece of this to go even deeper when someone couldn't love you in their life in your life, it wasn't about you, it was about them. They weren't able to love themselves. And I gave this example recently. I was coming out of a very long-term relationship, romantic relationship, and I met the nicest guy, the sweetest guy, like the neatest guy, coolest guy, but I didn't know who I was. I wasn't the same person coming out of that long-term relationship. I didn't know who I was. I wasn't.. I didn't love myself a whole lot at that point in time, and I couldn't, I couldn't show up for that awesome guy the way he deserved, because I couldn't show up for myself, because I didn't really love myself, because I didn't know who I was, I wasn't the same person that got into that relationship, and so we all probably have a situation like that, where maybe someone in our life, to reverse a situation, we thought, gosh, I, what was wrong with me, that that woman didn't love me, or couldn't see what was good, and had nothing to do with him, it was where I was in my life, and so sometimes we have these stories of the parent that didn't love us, or the relationship, or the person that didn't love us, and what if you can only love someone else in direct correlation to how much you can love yourself, and so when you really, really love yourself, that flows through you into all the relationships around you, and it goes back to this sort of being your best self thing, but sometimes the easiest way to be your best self is to love yourself enough to get the sleep you need, or to take the downtime you need, or to slow down and be conscious and aware of the food you're eating, or whatever it is, and to me self-love is such an overused word, the power of love and being the source of love, evolving your own awareness of love beyond this. Where did I get love, and who gave me love, or where am I supposed to be giving love to being the source of love, and again, back to the hardest working man in show business, right? In my opinion, right, the teachings of Jesus were love thy neighbor as thyself. Love, love, God, source, which is you, with your whole heart, mind, body, and soul. It's loving every part of you. This unwavering love for every part of you. It's.. I saw this thing on social media, and somebody could clearly explain it better than I did, but it was about kids, and anytime your kids acting up, it's there were sort of like three questions, you know, what do you need, you know what do you need me to hear, how you know it was just like these three basic things, and they were so loving, conscious, not like trying to reprimand or scold the kid, but it's like there's a couple of basic things here that they narrowed it down to, that if you ask the child what it needs, it probably knows what it needs, and it's not just acting out, there's something underneath.

Alex Ferrari 40:53
Yeah,

Sara Landon 40:53
And so what if we have that same compassion with ourself? What is this really about? What is this really about, and it might surprise you what comes to the surface, and you can, you know, in those moments we're either choosing to love ourselves or we're choosing to deny love for ourselves, and it shifts everything. It shifts everything,

Alex Ferrari 41:19
Sara that's just crazy talk. I mean, absolute create love ourselves and ask questions. It's insane, insane, but it's.. it is funny when you're saying about Jesus's teachings, is like, love thy neighbor until it's inconvenient, and then we don't love our neighbor, then we'll.. we'll go to what.. what the church says, as opposed to what Christ said, but that's a whole other conversation. We're not gonna go there today, but it's one of my pet peeves, because I'm a big fan of JC or YC, depending on how you like the.. so let's.. was

Sara Landon 42:01
It actually Yeshua Christ? I don't think I've ever heard that.

Alex Ferrari 42:03
Yeshua H. Christ actually is Yeshua.

Sara Landon 42:07
Right, thanks for clarifying.

Alex Ferrari 42:09
For my understanding, it was Yeshua the Christ,

Sara Landon 42:12
Okay

Alex Ferrari 42:12
Because Christ is not a last name, it was consciousness that he held. That's why

Sara Landon 42:18
I know that, because I watched a show on Next Level Soul TV

Alex Ferrari 42:23
That's called Marketing the Messiah.

Sara Landon 42:25
Marketing the Messiah. Yes, yes.

Alex Ferrari 42:28
Oh, Paul, Paul was such a little, you know. So, listen, let's bring in the council, because they're really other shots, the star of the show, obviously. Sarah, so can you explain to people who the council are, if they have not, they're not heard of them, heard of them before, and how you bring them in.

Sara Landon 42:46
Twofold, I'll give you two answers. They're a collective of ascended master beings here to remind us of our potential to offer a grander perspective of the human experience, so that we can live our purpose and our life the way we intended to. They will also say that they are the higher selves of anyone and everyone that will ever hear this, that you are us and we are you, and you are the council here on earth, which implies that you all are masters. We all are masters here to master our human experience, so that it's everything that we intended it to be, to really open up to your energy, your power, your love, your light, and embody that fully in the world. And so I just close my eyes for a moment or two, and they will begin. I am totally aware of where I am and who they're talking to. I'm not what they would refer to as a trans channel. I am aware and I'm interpreting the incredibly intense streams of consciousness that they're bringing through. It's usually easier for me if my eyes are closed to focus in on the streams of consciousness and interpreting them, and so I encourage people, if that feels good to them, close their eyes. Other people really like to watch my hands, because apparently that's a lot of energy there too. So I'll just close my eyes and bring them in, and they'll start with their message, and then go to your questions. So, here we go.

Alex Ferrari 44:22
Sounds good. Let's bring them in.

Sara Landon 44:24
We are so pleased and delighted to have the opportunity to speak with you on this fine and glorious day indeed. While our words to you are important, this is a vibrational experience of remembering the truth of who you really are, why you are here, and all that you intended when you chose this magnificent life experience, because we assure you your life is made. It to be so very good for you. You are creator within your own creation of reality. You are powerful. You are free. You are everything you wish to be this part of your journey now, Master is allowing yourself into the realization that you are powerful, that you are free, that you are everything you wish to be, and indeed everything is here for you to choose. You are here for your own expansion. You're here during the time of the great awakening to experience the expansion of consciousness. You are here to express all that you are. You are source. You are divine. You are here to express that fully. You are the source of love in the world. You're here to be that expression of the love that you are the source that you are the light that you are. You are here to choose the experiences you want to have. You all have desires and things that when they present in your experience you think, oh, that would be fun, or oh, that's interesting, or you are curious about that. Experiences lead you to your own expansion, and even greater joy. Those desires are placed within your awareness, your consciousness, within your heart, for the very purpose of your own expansion. You are here to choose the experiences you want to have, and you're coming into a time of really understanding that when you master your energy, you master your life. Imagine that everything your physical body, the higher selves of everyone in your life, the energy of money, everything in the world, and what you call your environment or external world, or everything that is part of your experience, including your physical body, is all completely and totally devoted to you coming in to the realization of how powerful you are of mastering your own energy, so that you can master your life. Everything devoted to you, remembering how to master your energy, so that you can master your life. That would mean absolutely everything is happening for you to bring you into new levels of your power to get clear on who you really are, why you are here, and the power you have within you, so that you can choose and create your reality the way you intended it to be, because that's really what's going on here. Everything is bringing you into the realization of your power, of your own energy, that you are not trying to become something that you already are and have always been when you're not telling the story of your own lack and limitation. Where would you like to begin, our friends?

Alex Ferrari 49:38
Yes, my first question is, well, first of all, thank you for being here, as always. First question is, what do humans misunderstand the most in today's world?

Sara Landon 49:48
That everything is your perspective and consciousness, it's responding to you, we understand. Why things in the external world seem really real to you. We understand that it's very difficult when you're focused in a human body as the you you know as you to understand that everything is energy and it's all your energy responding to you. The greatest misunderstanding in the human experience is that you all have all of the energy that is your energy here to serve you in every way that you are powerful, and that nothing is more powerful than you. Some think that beings in other dimensions, or what you would call your guides, or the angels, or the archangels, are more powerful than you. They're not at all. They're all an extension of you and how you see your own power, and so everything that's happening right now is your opportunity to remember your own power, to summon your own energy, to experience your own freedom, to choose your reality the way you want it to be. Nothing has power over you unless you give it your power. Do you understand why is that so hard for humans to understand? That's our question to you.

Alex Ferrari 51:32
No idea. I don't know. I think it has a lot to do with our own, our own conditioning of what we've been told since we were born by our caretakers, that we're born into this world, and that we are less than, that we cannot show our true power. I don't know why, but it's just not everybody, but unfortunately,

Sara Landon 51:54
But do you know that's why you came, because because you knew that this was right here, right now, the time of the greatest awakening and the greatest transformation of human consciousness that would ever occur in any lifetime, and you said, "pick me, I'll go. You knew that it was the greatest thing, the biggest thing going on anywhere in the universe was what's happening on earth at this time, and you knew you would come from pure source energy and focus yourself into a physical body, and that you would explore and collect data and information, and you would come to this time of your own awakening, and then your own realization to live as a fully sovereign, divine, eternal being in your power, summoning your own energy, living in the highest levels of consciousness, being the source of love that you are on this earth, so that you wouldn't pass down those same limitations and beliefs and stories, you would remember the power you have and the power you are, and you would live it in such a way and embody it in such a way that all beings around you would begin to awaken to the power and the energy and the light and the love and the truth that they are too, so this isn't judgment in any way, but if you start to focus your perspective on what would be possible if all beings understood that they were from the very beginning, and the truth is that children do know this. They do come in knowing that they are the source, the source of love, that they are source itself, that all of their own energy is serving them, and they really choose to do what brings them joy, and to choose what's fun, and to create, and to play, and yes, we understand that as a parent or a teacher or a caregiver or a mentor, an influence on a child, you want the very best for them, and you want them to navigate the human experience in a way that is easier for them, we understand that you have rules on your planet, and so you advise your children that if you're going to go to the grocery store, you've got to put clothes on. There are lots of things like that in your human experience, these agreed upon things that you have all. Agreed to do, and you can be conscious and aware in all of those things, still knowing your power, still knowing your power to choose, and in your awareness, the very awareness of your limited beliefs or your stories, the very awareness, that's it, the awareness of them is what will set you free. If you believe that you have to do all this work on yourself, that's still a belief, and I have to do and do and earn and work harder in order to be worthy, and the moment you are aware of your infinite worth, there's no work to do, there's awareness to choose, and when you choose awareness, you're free, you're powerful in that very moment of your awareness, that which is not aligned to the truth of you simply moves out of your experience, and alignment to truth becomes choiceless. Do you understand?

Alex Ferrari 56:34
I do. I do. What should humanity stop chasing?

Sara Landon 56:39
Well, there's no judgment from our perspective what you should do or shouldn't do. In fact, many ask, I need to know what I should do or I'm supposed to do, and we say, do what brings you joy, do what's fun, do what you love, be curious, explore what excites you. That's how you meant to navigate this human experience. Now, is your life a lot easier when you choose to elevate your consciousness and awareness, and choose to be in the now moment, and be present. Is your life a lot easier when you are aligned to the truth of you, when you are opening up to the source energy that you are, when you are loving yourself and understanding how sacred you are. Life's a lot easier. Is life very difficult when you hold yourself in fear? Yes. Is life very difficult when you perceive lack instead of abundance? Yes. Is life very difficult when you're constantly judging yourself and others? Yes. If you could be aware of one thing that would create a whole lot more joy and freedom and love in your life, let go of all the judgment. Let go, first and foremost of any judgment of yourself and any other or any circumstances and conditions. There are truths on this planet that have been said by many different people in many different ways. If you will apply this and choose this perspective, it'll change your entire life. Whatever's happening, choose the perspective, even if you don't know the answer to it. What if what's happening in some way is happening for me? What if, in some way, somehow, there's a gift in this somewhere when you choose the perspective that this is happening for me, here's a really important next part to that, to bring you into new levels of your power, to bring you into new levels awareness of your own power, to get clear on what you really want, so that you can choose your reality the way you want it to be. If you're still in judgment of whatever's going on, you cannot liberate yourself into your own power, into your own freedom, or into your own ability to choose. Do you understand that?

Alex Ferrari 1:00:01
I do.

Sara Landon 1:00:02
If you are in judgment of anything about yourself, you are holding yourself apart from your own power, your own awareness, your own freedom, your own ability to choose. If you are in judgment of any other, you are denying yourself your own power to choose, if you are in judgment of circumstances and conditions, you are deeming yourself powerless, you are holding yourself in bondage, and you are holding on to a belief that you can't choose your own experience. None of that is the truth of you, which is why it feels so awful. You are powerful, you are free, you are everything you wish to be. You're here to choose your reality, you're here to choose your experiences. Does that make sense to you?

Alex Ferrari 1:01:01
It does. Console, let me ask you, is humanity currently going through a dark night of the soul?

Sara Landon 1:01:09
Some people are. Some people are experiencing themselves as the light of the world. Some people feel better than they ever have in their entire life. Some people are feeling more joy and happiness and abundance and well-being than they ever have, and some people are having a really difficult time. It's all leading to you remembering the truth of who you are, you can be experiencing joy and love and be in a deeper realization of the truth of who you are, or you can be realizing despair and disharmony and disease and realize the truth of who you are, you there is a potential for humanity and everyone in the human experience to evolve through and expand through and express through and choose their experiences through joy and peace and love and harmony and abundance and freedom and well-being and beauty and creativity, or if you still think you're unworthy of that, you can choose to remember the truth of who you are through lack and limitation and fear and separation. Do you understand that?

Alex Ferrari 1:02:39
I do. I do. What must humanity heal first as they evolve?

Sara Landon 1:02:48
As each person remembers the truth of who they are. You make it so much easier for everyone else to remember the truth of who they are too. You chose a path to do what you love, to create what you want to create, to have fun, to co-create with people you want to create, and to allow abundance and well-being and connection and opportunities to flow through you doing what you love and you enjoy, and you have personally empowered more people than you could ever imagine to begin to believe that if Alex can leave an industry that he'd worked in for many years to go pursue doing what he loves to do and create and have fun and create abundance and joy and well-being through that you've inspired more people than you will ever know that that is possible for them too

Alex Ferrari 1:03:51
Beautifully said

Sara Landon 1:03:52
When you choose peace when you are the person that no matter what's going on I know if I call that person that they won't get all wound up and spun up and and I'll feel worse. I know that that person will be the voice of reason, sort of, say that they can stay peaceful, and that even if I'm in a challenging place, when I talk to that person, I feel better. These are examples of you living in your truth and creating a way, a path for others to remember the truth of who they are, too. We could say your greatest gift to the world is your whole, healed, happy, joyful, peaceful, abundant self that's living in well-being, doing what brings you joy and creating the things you. Want to create when you're triggered by something, and instead of lashing out at someone else, you take a breath, and you ask yourself, what is this really about, and you go, oh, that's a habit I have of denying love for myself, and you choose to align with the love that you are, and the source of love that you are, that is choosing your own healing, that is your gift to humanity, and as each of you do this, first off, it's not just like a one to one ratio, as you are stepping into your own truth, elevating your own consciousness, your own vibration, allowing your own energy to serve you, coming into your own power and your own freedom to be who you are, literally it creates a ripple effect, you're affecting far more people than you could possibly imagine, and there is a wave of healing that is moving through humanity as you are choosing your own presence, your own consciousness, your own light, your own love in the moment, does that make sense to you?

Alex Ferrari 1:06:30
It does. It does. Let me ask you, what will future generations remember about this time in humanity?

Sara Landon 1:06:38
As you step into what is here for you to choose, which we refer to as the new earth, which is you living in what we refer to as the fifth dimension of pure love. It really is the heaven on earth that has been prophesized or imagined it's going to be your lived experience, and you're going to be living in such a level of joy and peace and harmony and abundance and well-being, that you'll barely remember what got you there, you'll remember it as literally like a moment when you were walking down a path, and right next to you there was a parallel path that became completely illuminated, and the path that was directly next to the path you were on was so beautiful, so radiant, so illuminated, you couldn't even divert your eyes, and you started looking at that path, and all of a sudden you were on that path, and you were in that world, and you couldn't have stayed on the other path if you tried, because your eyes and everything saw this vibrant, beautiful path that illuminated right next to you, and you just stepped over, and now you are on the pathway to fully realizing the new earth, heaven on earth, so others won't remember it quite like you will, and just like all other times in history, you will, you will see that everything is about expansion. This will be, as we said, the time of the Great Awakening. What will.. what will future generations see this as the time of the Great Awakening, where there was a time on earth where there was a summoning of more consciousness and more light and more joy, and everything changed seemingly overnight. Now you'll know that it wasn't really overnight, but when you fully allow yourself into what we refer to as the new earth, you'll even forget how long it perceivably took, and it will start to seem like you to you that it happened seemingly overnight. You're on a path a. Another path became illuminated. You stepped onto that path, and there you are, and there you are. And there's no judgment of how difficult you make it. There's no judgment on how difficult you make it, because everything serves you in remembering your own power. Does that make sense to you?

Alex Ferrari 1:10:27
It does. And finally, do you have a final message for humanity that they need to hear right now?

Sara Landon 1:10:33
What you most need to hear is the voice within yourself, the truth within you, we come forth because we promised we would, so that you would never forget, so that you could remember the grander perspective of who you are and what's really going on here, so that you would remember that you came as a master and you have always been a master, and you chose this time for your own realization to remember the master that you are, and then to stay on the planet and live in abundance and well-being and joy and harmony and peace and love during this time on earth, and there are more people that will tell you what you need to hear than ever before. There are more people that have the answer for you than ever before, you we want you to remember that all the answers are already within you, trust yourself, remember your truth, come into the power that you are, you remember the truth within you. It has served greatly all of the answers you have pursued, and all of the wisdom you have gained from outside of you. It never really was outside of you. In fact, you drew this all to you. You are channeling this to you. When you really feel in to you and the truth within you, you realize you drew all of this to you. It is your wisdom. And then, what do you do? What do you do once you realize it's all within you? The power is within you. You're free to choose. It's all here for you. Your own source energy is always serving you. That's the question we ask you now. What now? What now? What you have all the answers, they're all within you. You have everything you need, and more. You have all the energy, the consciousness, and the energy that creates worlds, most importantly, that creates your worlds, is flowing through you and here to serve you. Now, what? What do you choose? Is your life joyful and fun? Do you play and create? Is everything happening for you to bring you into new realizations of your power. Do you want to co-create? Do you want to gather and and share the amazing and incredible things that are happening in your lives? That's what's coming next. That's what's coming next. You want to ask, what, what's the future of things like this that you have created that are so powerful and important in the world, like next level soul? The next evolution is going to be sharing the joyful experiences you're having, sharing the miracles, sharing the magic, sharing the fun. It really is going to be all of these beautiful examples of how you are living in your heaven on earth. It's like you're all going to paint your masterpiece, and you're going to start interviewing people and saying, show us your masterpiece, show us your heaven on earth, show us your experience of living fully in the new earth, that is going to inspire some. Of the greatest expansion on your planet, when you, when you're ready to evolve the conversation, and we think you are, you're on the forefront of it, expand the con, expand the conversation, you into what's it really like to live in the new earth. What's it really like to live in heaven on earth? What's it like to live as an ascended master on earth? What's it like to live in the highest levels of joy and abundance and peace and well-being and freedom. What's it like to really know your power? What's it like to really summon your own energy and allow it to serve you in your life? This is the evolution of the conversation that you're ready to have. Thank you so much. Do you have anything more for us?

Alex Ferrari 1:16:01
I do not. Thank you so, so much, Council. Appreciate you so much.

Sara Landon 1:16:05
We have enjoyed this conversation. Here's the thing we want you to remember: You are powerful, you are free, you are everything you wish to be, you already are. It is all within you. It always has been. We love you, we love you, we love you. And with that, we are complete.

Alex Ferrari 1:16:44
And she's back. One thing I wanted to ask you, Sara, that was so beautiful with the council, and you remember most of everything that they said, right? Yeah, you still remember.

Sara Landon 1:16:53
I have never heard them say what they said to you at the end, and it's funny because it's a question I've been asking

Alex Ferrari 1:17:00
In regards.

Sara Landon 1:17:02
I've just felt like there was this next level, no pun intended, next level, and I keep asking what it is, right, like we were talking about before we started, there's all these podcasts now, right? When you started, it was sort of a novel concept, right? Now there's all these podcasts and all this information and all these videos and all these things, and it's like it's all, not all, I mean, many of those things, though, are to fix us, to heal us, to, you know, that there's something still wrong,

Alex Ferrari 1:17:55
Right!

Sara Landon 1:17:57
And so all these questions, and all these conversations, and all this information, and I've watched so many of your amazing interviews, whether it's a near death experience or another channel, they're all saying that there's this beauty, there's this joy, there's this love, there's this - we're so much more powerful than we realize that we really are creators within our own creation. So, what if we start tuning our attention, our awareness to that? How are you living as a fully enlightened being living in your power, what is heaven on earth look like to you? What is what have you created with all of this knowledge and wisdom and love and light that you are? Right, starting to evolve that conversation to what does that look like? Right?

Alex Ferrari 1:18:59
It's interesting to say the least, there is, there's going to be, there is an evolution happening in the conversations, a bit. I'm starting to see it, starting to sense it. But

Sara Landon 1:19:15
What are you seeing? Like, what are you sensing from your perspective? I think you have such a unique viewpoint in all of these conversations you have, and you're always asking us questions. You have probably the forever a seat. What is the evolution you're seeing?

Alex Ferrari 1:19:32
Well, that's the, that's the funny thing, is I do. I mean, we're closing in on 700 episodes now, where I've had the blessing of speaking to some of the most interesting human beings on the planet, to say the least, but it's interesting to see how things are evolving. I think we're getting to a turning point. We haven't gotten there yet. I think we've been getting the pre. Shows the trailers for it, but the main, the main attraction is yet to come. I know a lot of people are afraid of the main attraction. I'm not. I understand it's going to be a little rocky. It can be for some, and for others not. It really is truly up to you in many ways, in many ways, you know. In 2020 it wasn't up to us, but how we dealt with it was, and that's always the case. It's always the case. We could always do it, but the one thing that keeps coming up is, is an event or something that will shake humanity to its core in a good way. Some people will be terrified of it, and some people will embrace it with everything in humanity, it's always one or the other, it's always one side or the other, but I'm starting to see the conversations prepping people more and more, like this conversation prepping them more and more for what is about to come, and it, I say, within the decade, within this, the next three four years, something major will happen, and not in a war or anything like that. I don't think in a negative fashion, but something will happen that will be neutral in the, in its energy. How we apply to it is up to us, you know it will be either negative or positive, but I think that the one thing that just keeps coming up, and it's something I've kind of, kind of stayed away from, is disclosure and understanding of what is out there in the universe, and that whole thing, and I don't want to get into the X-Files, I don't want to get into all that kind of stuff, but there is a spiritual component to it that is not being discussed enough, and that's kind of where I'm feeling that we are going to start having those more of those conversations, because I just think it's there's too much information out there, there's too much stuff happening, there's too much of that going out there that I think it's going to be interesting. It's one of many conversations that will happen, is in the evolution of what we're doing, but I'm just.. it's as a front row attendee of this whole circus that is life, and especially on the show, I'm just seeing it happening more and more through channels, through mystics, even mystics, even philosophers, quantum physicists, all people from all walks of life are starting to, we're all kind of getting to that place where, like, you know, because when that does happen, and I do believe it will, it will shake the foundation of humanity in every aspect of it, and I think we've been kind of being prepped for that, because I don't know about you, things are a little shaky out there, right? You know, for a lot of people, a lot of things, but that's what I'm seeing, Sarah. I don't know if that makes any sense to you, if that resonates with you or not.

Sara Landon 1:22:58
Well, a couple of things just come to mind, and then I see when you're talking about this years ago, I had someone tell me a story about how, and this was literally like in the late 70s, early 80s, they, they wanted to see like an alien shit, they just sort of kind of joking about it, actually, and they were driving through the mountains with a friend, and literally this light appeared in the sky, and nobody could deny it, because the light was so bright, it was like nothing they had ever experienced, and so they get to this hotel, or on this road trip, and she said, we both got to the hotel, and all of a sudden we started itching, like burning, like our skin was burning, and they didn't know why. And some years later, someone, you know, an intuitive energy person, spiritual master, whatever, what does, says, "Well, what happened was that what you saw was extremely high, you know what you would call UFO or extraterrestrial, that is at a very, very, very high vibrational frequency, and they came close to you, but your frequency was so different than theirs that it caused this burning and itching in your body when you were in that frequency, right when you came in contact with that frequency, and so I think what we've been going through over the last, you know, probably 30 years is this: we have to raise our vibration and our consciousness to be able to hold the levels of light that are here and available to us. I go back to, like, Edgar Casey, and a lot of very early channels were complete trans channels.

Alex Ferrari 1:24:53
Yes, Seth,

Sara Landon 1:24:54
And Seth speaks had no clue what they were saying, and the. Council has explained that the reason there are so many more people that can channel now without being totally trans channels being completely out or even physically out of their body, like a lot of channels were back in the 70s or 80s, where an entity would come in and the consciousness of that person would leave, is because our vibrations are higher that we can allow through those those higher consciousness and higher vibrational frequencies and still stay present in our body at the same time, and so when you think of someone that has a near death experience or an enlightenment experience or even an ayahuasca experience or something like that, it's like something is illuminated so brightly, you can never go back to sleep again, right? You can never deny what you experienced, and what the council has said is that we have crossed the tipping point in the threshold, but what's really going on is that the vibration and the frequency is becoming so high on the planet that literally there will come a moment where we can't deny the light, all of us can choose that right here, right now. You are not waiting for something to happen. If you are listening to this and you're at this point in your journey, you have probably already experienced the light, and it's allowing that, it's knowing that it's not denying that, and holding that that vibration, that frequency, that light in such a way that it literally, it's like there comes a moment in humanity's evolution, since we're on that topic, where something so filled with light is just so undeniable, we can't go back, we can't deny it, right. It's like I can think of a really cranky, crabby person in my life, and, and yet, like in the presence of a newborn baby being born, they melt and they're just crying and goo goo gaga and this because pure source energy has entered the room in in the form of this baby, right, and it's sort of like that, it's like no matter how whatever someone is in this moment of light that comes to earth, but I think also is on earth, and when we all choose it and embody it fully ourselves, that experience becomes undeniable, and I agree with you. I think for some of us that's already here and I do believe there is something extremely miraculous that's gonna be like one morning everybody just woke up and the light was shining, and all beings knew the truth, and the truth of who they were, and the truth of who we all are, and it changes everything, right? But those that I don't think those that come after us, to your question of the council, I don't think next generations are. I think it's just such a great privilege to be able to live it. Now they're gonna get the blessing and the fun from all of that, right? But I think we're the ones who chose to come experience it and witness it.

Alex Ferrari 1:28:53
You know, what's funny is when that thing happens, whatever that illumination that you're talking about, and I do, I do believe it's an illumination. I think it is a positive thing. I don't think it's going to be a negative

Sara Landon 1:29:03
100%

Alex Ferrari 1:29:04
I think the when it's going to be like when anyone gets a truth that they cannot deny, the processing of it is is one can be extremely entertaining, but also because you know, for many reasons, but it is also something that every individual is going to have to deal with on their own way, so process the processing of that information, the processing of that truth is going to be the x factor for me on how people do it, and and I do believe that right now I do agree with, I mean, there's no question that the frequency of the planet has risen. There's no question about it. We wouldn't have these conversations, and they wouldn't be getting the kind of reaction that they would that they are if the people weren't interested, and people really wanted to hear about this. But what I do think is that. What is happening around the world right now? There is a lot of, I like to call them bulls in China shops, lot of bulls in China shops all around the world.

Sara Landon 1:30:10
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:30:10
And they're cracking a lot of China that needs to be cracked, and unfortunately, they're also cracking a lot of China that we would rather not be cracked. But it is what it is, that is kind of the last ditch effort to hold on to the old ways, to hold on to these old systems that do not serve us, but we're all becoming wise about it. We're all starting to see the truth. We're all starting to go, wait a minute, this doesn't make any sense anymore. I was talking to a friend of mine who's an academic, and there are colleges just shutting down because the truth of spending $250,000 on a fine arts degree, and then be have that debt on your life for the rest of your life as a basically a prison sentence doesn't make any sense. There's a truth now that that and the new generation is going. Are you insane? I'm not going to do that. That's one example of the old system starting to crumble, and we all kind of see it in religion, in healthcare, in politics, in Hollywood, in money - it's everywhere. You're literally witnessing it at all times, but I think that's the last kind of like death rattle, if you will, like, yeah, trying to hold on, and they just, and they're getting angrier about it, because no, no, no, we can't, like, it's kind of like trying to hold on to something, and it's getting more intense and more intense until it gets that pop point that it just goes, it's over now, and now we can move forward,

Sara Landon 1:31:40
I think you just answered one of the questions you asked me at the beginning,

Alex Ferrari 1:31:47
which one did I answer?

Sara Landon 1:31:49
We see that what you just described so perfectly is what I think a lot of people would say is going on in the world, and we all are like, yeah, that's what's going on, but that's also what's going on in here, that's why people are exhausted. You asked why people are so exhausted, because it's like grasping on to that last little thing, fighting for our limitations, fighting for our, no, we really are powerless, fighting for our no, it really is that person's fault, right, fighting for the lie, that's why we're exhausted,

Alex Ferrari 1:32:32
Because we're seeing it and we're feeling the energy of that,

Sara Landon 1:32:35
But it's our self, it's not, it is out there, but it, when we stop fighting it within ourselves, I just feel like this deep breath in all of humanity go..

Alex Ferrari 1:32:53
But Sara, we can do that deep breath within ourselves at any time we want. We have the power, we have the sovereignty to do that. Both of you and I do not watch the news on a daily basis. I always say, if there's something important enough, it'll get to me.

Sara Landon 1:33:07
True,

Alex Ferrari 1:33:09
You know, if something happens in the world, someone's gonna tell me if it's that important. If an asteroid's coming towards planet, someone's gonna mention it, so I don't have to really live in the drama of it all. So I've chosen to kind of not feed into that, into that stuff. I've physically chosen, like, no, I know crazy stuff's happened. Then sometimes I'll read a headline or something will pop up on social media. I'm like, well, that's fantastic. Let's move on. Let's move from there. Oh, that guy said this, or that country did that, or oh, wow. What you can, if you get caught up in it, what are you doing? You're not changing anything. You can't really affect it. There's only a handful of human beings on the planet that can affect it, and those are the people that we've put in power, or have taken power, depending on how you look at it, and which part of the world you're in. But at the end of the day, you have to walk your own path and choose how you want to interact with this, this insanity that is this reality that we're in, and I always say this, so I always say this, and I think it's a statement that people need to hear more, and I think it gives you a lot more empathy for human beings, is that we are all just trying to figure this out. The moment we got thrown into this insane situation, we're thrown into this, this reality. We meet two people sometimes, hopefully most times, who are your parents, who you don't know, who don't know you, they teach you the best they can. They're your caretakers in the best case scenario. They pass along to you all the crap that they picked up along the way, because they were trying to figure it out when they showed up, and then their parents were trying to figure it out that they showed up, and so on. And that's generational, keeps going in, so then you figure. It all out, you're given all this information, and then at a certain point in your life, usually as a teenager, but sometimes in your 20s, sometimes in your 50s, you go, "Wait a minute, that doesn't work for me anymore, and I now need to find my own path, and then you start to seek, like I did, I was raised Catholic, and I go, "That didn't make sense to me, let me pick up Autobiography of a yogi, let me look into Buddhism, let me look into all these other versions of what did Christ really say, kind of things, because that's what I found. And then I'm trying to find my own path, I'm still trying to figure it out, you're still trying to figure it out. We might have an understanding of what we've kind of structured reality to be for ourselves, but it is a construction of our own making.

Sara Landon 1:35:43
Yeah, absolutely.

Alex Ferrari 1:35:44
And it is. And because I'm a storyteller, I keep saying this to people, it's all about the story that you tell yourself and the story you believe. And some stories you'll people kill for my god is better than your god, and all this kind of crap. You can't pass that that line on the ground that you can't see from space, but I've put it there because that's what I said, you know, kind of stuff. But it really is truly your own personal experience of this, and you've said it so beautifully before, is that whatever we choose to, how we choose to experience a situation is truly not only up to us, but as an example, a lot of things that happen in the world, not all, but a lot of things have no energy to it. A car accident, a fender bender, as I've said before, a fender bender. When it happens, you and me get an offender bender, it's a pretty bad day for both of us, generally speaking, but it could be a perfect day, because that could be our meet cute, and all of a sudden it's a meet cute, and like, oh my god, you're like, where have you been? All my life's there, let's get married, kind of thing. So it could really depends on how you point it. Yeah, but with that said, let's say it's a bad situation for us, like, oh god, my insurance is going to go up, all this kind of stuff, so it's negative for us, but then we take both of our cars to two different dealerships or two different mechanics to fix them, and it's a great day for them. Same incident, just a different perspective on it. So it's, it's, it's fascinating. I could talk forever. I'm a podcaster, so

Sara Landon 1:37:19
Ah, I gotta share this, that just came in as you were talking.

Alex Ferrari 1:37:27
Sure,

Sara Landon 1:37:30
You are the president of your own life. You are the president of your own life, and when we all become the president of our own life, we give less power away to those special label people in the world, right. It's the same with being the god of your own life, being, you know, and what I mean by that is, whatever your, your religious or spiritual beliefs are, then they're no longer up there, out there, you bring all of that in here, and I was just shown this sort of vision of again, it goes back to when will there stop being dictators and people that take power, when we stop giving those people power. So, if you don't like something or someone in a leadership position in the world, if you don't like the CEO of the company you work for, become the CEO of your own life. If you don't like your boss, become the boss of your own life. Become what it is that you think is taking your power. Give yourself that back, right? All of a sudden, if I'm just gonna use CEO, because it's a little less charged,

Alex Ferrari 1:39:07
Charged

Sara Landon 1:39:12
If you don't like the CEO of your company, and you're just so pissed off all the time about what they're doing, and what they're saying, and how they're acting, and what you, you know, agree with or don't agree with, that they're doing. When you go, wait, I'm the CEO of my own life. All of a sudden, that that reactiveness dissolves.

Alex Ferrari 1:39:36
Yes, 100%

Sara Landon 1:39:39
And you're not putting them on this pedestal and giving them all this power, so it doesn't really matter if you agree with them or not, or you like them or not, and you start to act and choose differently in your own life, and I think that just, it just I. Had this huge shift when you were talking, and just what you're saying, and the way you're explaining it, it's like, yeah, we all have to step into this and listen. So, think about it this way, too, to answer, we're just going deeper and deeper, all these layers, right? I have run a company, and I have been in that position, and with that role as a CEO comes responsibility, because what happens if the company, quote unquote, fails, right? Who gets blamed? The CEO. So, when we go, oh, well, if I'm the CEO of my life and my life fails, well, then I'm responsible for it, and I can't blame the government or the company or the

Alex Ferrari 1:40:46
Religion,

Sara Landon 1:40:47
The stories, the religion, the education system. I have to be totally responsible, but then if we shift the whole concept of success or failure to we're here to, as the council said, expand. We're here to express who we really are. We're here to choose our experiences. We're here to really master our energy, so that we master our life. Then there's not success or failure. I don't think about things like that anymore in my own experience. It's like everything is an outcome, and I can usually see if something didn't turn out the way I wanted it to. I can almost always see where my energy really wasn't in it, even though I wanted to thought it should have been, or you know, you can start to see things differently, and everything begins to change, right? And I think that micro, macro example of when it all starts to change with inside of you, you're going to see it all starts to change in the world around you.

Alex Ferrari 1:41:53
I think it was, I think it was Yogananda that said this, that is like a person who can, a person who can master themselves can help master the world, or not master is not the right word, but someone who can evolve themselves or understand themselves, love themselves, can love the world, can help the world, because they have to be able to change them. That's it. A person who can change themselves can change the world. Yeah, but you, but most people want to change the world with ever, without ever looking at themselves, and it always starts here. It always starts, Sarah. As always, I could talk to you for another four or five hours. I'm sure if we brought the council back, we could talk for another 10 hours, oh yeah, but it's always such a pleasure having you. Can you tell everybody where they can find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing in the world?

Sara Landon 1:42:48
Thanks for asking. Yeah, saralandon.com There's.. I have five bestselling books now. My latest book is The 11 Spiritual Roles of the soul, which I think is so important for this time, really opening up to the spiritual roles you're here to play. You, for example, you're a messenger, you're a connector, you're a master yourself, and you're an uplifter - all these different incredible things. When we embody those, right, your whole life changes. In fact, I explained to people, and I know my own journey was when I wasn't living my spiritual roles that I was here to embody. Nothing worked. The moment I stepped into embracing my spiritual roles that I was here to live at this time, all the doors open, everything began to flow, everything began to come together, so I think it's a really important book for this time, the 11 spiritual roles of the soul. So I have that as my latest book. I have four other books, including You Are a Channel, which is opening your own connection to source, the divine, your guides, your higher self, your loved ones on the other side. I have a.. we kicked off in 2026 my new mentorship program, which has just been incredible. So, check out the mentorship program. We have a new topic every single month. What is really most inspired to dive deeper into? I have several courses. You can go to my YouTube channel, there's lots of videos there. You can tune into the other many great interviews, if I do say so myself, that Alex and I have done on Next Level Soul and Next Level Soul TV, so yeah, saralandon.com, you can find lots more.

Alex Ferrari 1:44:30
Absolutely, and of course, you are on Next Level Soul TV in a big way. We have your Ascension Conference talk, and you were the episode one of our channeled Master Class series, which hopefully will have a season two soon. We're working on it. We got other things, other fish to fry, but you hopefully will be coming down to the studio soon. And we have a little secret project that we're going to be working on for everybody as well. So, I cannot wait to share that with the world. Sarah, it is a pleasure, my friend, to have you on. And I adore you, I love you, I love the work that you're doing, I love the council, even though they make fun of me sometimes, but I know they do it with love, so I appreciate it, but thank you for everything you do to help awaken this planet.

Sara Landon 1:45:12
Thank you, I love you too, you have changed my life, I am just so excited to see you shining so brightly in the world, all the amazing things you're doing. I just feel so blessed and grateful that I get to co-create so many awesome things with you. So, I know I say this on behalf of millions of people at this point, but thank you, Alex, for all that you do. You have changed my life. I have shared so many of your interviews with so many people in my life, it is just.. it's changing the world. So, thank you. Love you, my friend.