Humanity’s Rocky But Hopeful Future with Darryl Anka

Darryl Anka 0:00
You stay in a positive state no matter what manifests, so that you can get a benefit out of it, like finding out what isn't my passion. In my beliefs is part of my passion. Use that toxic relationship to figure out who you are, to elevate yourself, and then when you're elevated, use that elevation to help the toxic person elevate themselves, if they're willing, becoming something that's capable of flowing more of the soul through itself in a more natural way.

Alex Ferrari 0:29
I mean, I see it with my kids, how they're consuming the world is so different than the way I was raised, definitely the way you were raised.

Darryl Anka 0:37
We literally are giving you a stripped down description of how you're already creating your physical reality experience. So just do it this way, and you're doing it in the most efficient way you can.

Alex Ferrari 0:49
Now, before we jump into this episode, if this conversation resonates with you, please like subscribe and share this with whoever you feel that needs to hear it. Your support helps us keep bringing this information out into the world and helps us awaken this planet. Thank you. I like to welcome back to the show returning champion, arguably the ultimate returning champion, because he's the one who's been on the show the most, Darryl Anka. How are you doing Darryl?

Darryl Anka 1:37
Good Alex, how are you?

Alex Ferrari 1:40
I'm good, my friend. I'm good. You are, as they say, in the in the sphere of Next Level Soul an OG you were one of the very first episodes of a very first guest. I think you were episode eight.

Darryl Anka 1:55
I think so. I don't quite keep track, but yeah, but thank you for having me again. I appreciate.

Alex Ferrari 2:00
Always, people love when we have our conversations and and today, I mean, we've covered so much in the other episodes we've we've gone. Had before, but this time, I really want to kind of go. I want to take you and Bashar his teachings into the deep end of the spiritual pool, like, Let's go deep, deep, deep. That's where I want to go with it. So first, question for you, sir is, how can, how can we best align our higher self in the middle of the everyday chaos and responsibilities of everyday life?

Darryl Anka 2:32
You know, Bashar has likened the idea of the chaos that we're experiencing like learning to ride the rapids in a river when you understand how to ride the rapids, how to maintain your balance, the rapids are moving you down river much more quickly than you otherwise would go. So ultimately it will empty out into a calm river where everything then just flows peacefully. But the idea is to learn to ride the rapids so you can get where we're going much faster. And the way to do that is to approach all your challenges in life with curiosity, creativity and calmness, staying in a positive state so you can get a benefit out of the experience, even though chaos is all around it is the symptom of the end of one cycle and the beginning of a new cycle. Because everything is breaking apart. Everything is coming apart at the seams. Everything is being reorganized. Everything is being rearranged. The old systems are falling apart. The new systems will have, then an ability to come in and replace them. So yeah, transition is a chaotic time, but that's what we're going through. We're going through a transition. We're going through a reset of humanity over the next couple of decades, and on earth, this is kind of the way it expresses itself, because Earth is a school of polarities, so it's nothing to be afraid of, but it's something you can use. You just have to learn to stay in balance as you're riding the rapids, and you'll make it downstream that much faster. What's coming will come that much more quickly.

Alex Ferrari 4:16
But how about for those who are having major anxiety and fear around all this kind of stuff that's happening around us, because it does. You're right, the old systems, you can see it crumbling. I mean, you and I both come from Holly weird. We both worked in the industry for a long time, and the the new technologies that are coming out, I don't know if you've seen the new AI video, the AI that just came out by Google and many others. It's a game, I mean, and this is just the beginning of it. I can imagine where we're going to be in three to four years, where anybody can create avatar, or anyone can create Star Wars on their on their laptop, with sound. The effects and and dialog and, you know, probably good performances. Yeah, right. So, so we see that happening all around us. So what do you? How do you? What advice do you and Bucha teachings have for people who are fearful and and anxious about all of this,

Darryl Anka 5:18
Fearful of, what is the question? Because

Alex Ferrari 5:20
Fearful of change. Yeah, I guess.

Darryl Anka 5:22
Well, you know, a lot of people are fearful of change, but the idea is Change is the only constant in the universe. So everything always changes. We've always experienced it. I know there's a lot of resistance to it, but the idea is that that resistance is the product of holding on to fear based beliefs that are often simply irrational. It doesn't mean that what you're afraid of is actually, factually going to happen. A lot of times the fear, in fact, will manufacture a negative result. So when you understand that your state of being determines how you experience your reality, then you can start letting go of the fear, because the fear is actually creating what you don't want. It's kind of like the idea of a self fulfilling prophecy. When you stay in the vibration of fear, then the things that bolster that fear start being attracted to you. You start reinforcing that energy. So it's maybe better to think of this in terms of resonance. Everything is about vibration. Everything is about frequency. If you don't prefer to experience things that reflect and reinforce the idea of a fearful belief system, then choose something different, because the universe doesn't care what you choose, it's unconditionally supportive. So if you say, I'm going to buy into these fear based and negative beliefs about my life and my experience and what's going on, the universe is going to say, Okay, I'm going to reinforce that and support you in that. But if you decide to say, You know what, I'd rather look at the idea that there's a positive side, I can learn a positive lesson that I can learn something from this that will move me forward, that will help me grow, help me expand. I can approach this challenge with curiosity, with creativity. Then the universe is going to say, Okay, I'll support you in that too. So it kind of comes down to understanding that this is how reality works. This is how the universe works. It doesn't care what you choose. It will support you in either case. So you might as well choose a more positive state of being. Why not? Because then the universe will support you in that, and all the reflections you get will at least be reflections that give you an opportunity to extract a benefit from what's going on underlying all chaos are patterns. They may not be visible on the surface right away, but they are there, and so you have to be in a positive state to see the pattern and use the patterns and extract something beneficial from the patterns that are embedded in underlying what appears on the surface to be something chaotic. We're in charge. We're in the driver's seat. We have to choose how we're driving our vehicle, and if we decide to do it negatively, then it's going to be a bumpy road. If we decide to do it positively, then we're not as affected by the bumps, because we're getting something out of it, then it's more like, Okay, I'm on a roller coaster, but I enjoy roller coasters because it's a fun ride. At the end of it, I have had a thrill, and I wind up where I need to be. So it really is all how you approached what's going on. Bucha always reminds us, look, there's no built in meaning to physical reality. It's a set of props. They're neutral. You decide the meaning. You know, we automatically train people to go, Oh, if this happens, it's bad. If this happens, you know, that's good. But you know, there's that old story of the idea of, you know, oh, oh, you know, my my son, was riding a horse, and he fell off and broke his leg. That's bad. And, you know, the wise master goes, Well, we'll see. And then later, you find out that he would have been drafted into the army and probably killed, but because of his broken leg, he's saved, you know, although that's good, and the Zen master goes, we'll see. So it's just about constantly understanding that everything can serve double duty, and that if you stay in a positive state, then you're navigating into that direction. And those will be the opportunities that will open up for you to help you continue that positive arc, whereas if you go into a negative thing, you'll just keep spiraling downward, because that's the nature of physics. What you put out is what you get back physical reality is a mirror. Recently, you know, Bucha put it a little bit more poetically by saying, Look, God is a mirror. What you put out is what's reflected to you. It's not. Creating a mind of its own. It doesn't contradict you. So you are the one that's in charge. You are what gives meaning to life. You decide what the meaning is, and the meaning you put into it is the experience you get out of it. So I think when people understand that, when they really wrap their mind around that concept, then they can get control of the idea of, well, why am I afraid of this? It's just a story that my negative belief is telling me to buy into. And if I understand it's just a story, then it doesn't have to be a true story. I can decide what the ending of this story is, and I can decide what the experience I'm having along the way. So make a decision and stick with it, and understand how things work, and you can get a benefit out of everything that's happening. Doesn't matter what it is.

Alex Ferrari 10:48
Beautifully said, Sir, beautifully said, I have to ask you, because I don't get to ask this question often, and we kind of touched upon it a little bit. Is what's happening to our old industry of Hollywood and of, you know, mainstream media. It seems before, we were like, Oh yeah, it's kind of falling apart. The jobs are going away. It's not this or that, but now it's really after these last couple weeks, ever since I saw that AI stuff, I'm like, oh my god, it's, it's Detroit. LA is going to turn into Detroit. So I'd love to hear what you think about it.

Darryl Anka 11:21
Well, I mean, AI is a tool like anything. There are people who will learn to use it, and people who are using it, just like, you know, when some other technology came out, and now it's like, well, now we don't really see film anymore. We only have video, you know. But people learn to adapt people, learn how to use it creatively. It doesn't kill the creativity. It expands your imagination. How can I use this new tool? It's not that it has to eliminate humans from the process, but it does call on humans to raise their imagination and raise their perspective and their creativity to a new level, to use these new tools, which can take us farther. So is the industry changing? Yes, absolutely, of course, but it's changed many times over the course of its history, and people have always adapted now, yeah, you know the older generations that are maybe used to doing it, the older ways, they may not necessarily adapt as easily, but the new kids coming in will be brought up with the technology. It will be natural for them, and they'll figure out ways to use it. I mean, one example of this is the idea of, you know, how are the presentation of these creative images going to be utilized? One of the things that has opened up in Las Vegas is the sphere. And the sphere is presenting imagery in an unprecedented way, a very incredibly high definition way. And the thing about it is it's not just a new way to present things when people are in that environment, when the image is all around you and is presented as literally reality around you, your brain does something different with it. It actually experiences it as if it is a reality. And then when they present something to you that's created by AI, this imagery of outer space and other dimensions and wormholes and whatever, your brain starts getting adapted to the idea of that as a reality. And so, in a sense, this technology can actually prepare us to expand our consciousness, to be able to stretch into the idea of perceiving other realities, perceiving other dimensions. So it just depends on how it's used. So the idea of what movies are may change, but that doesn't mean there won't be some form of presentation that humanity can get a benefit from. All we have to do is figure out, what do we want to do with that, and how does it help the evolution of humanity by presenting it in new ways that upgrade our brains to be able to perceive and and experience different kinds of things than just sitting in a movie theater. There will always be stories. This is the planet of stories. It just depends on how they're going to be told. So we just have to find and create the new jobs that will allow us to tell stories in a new way.

Alex Ferrari 14:27
So we're all heading towards a holodeck is essentially where we're all

Darryl Anka 14:32
Yeah, why not? I think predicted that quite accurately.

Alex Ferrari 14:36
Oh, maybe they predicted a lot of things quite accurately, you know, except the beaming up and beaming up and beaming down. Yet, we haven't got that locked in yet.

Darryl Anka 14:45
That's coming coming. It's coming. And in fact, I have actually spoken to a scientist many years ago who was actually working on that, and it was crude at the time. And. It. You know, it wasn't exactly what they were trying to do, but they did manage to transport things from one terminal to another terminal in the same room, but things didn't come out the right way. We saw the fly. We saw the fly. Well, yeah, however, they did actually sell all of that to the military. So who knows where it's at at this point, because I'm sure it was classified immediately. So, you know, I would say somewhere within the next century, we'll probably have that.

Alex Ferrari 15:34
That's it's pretty remarkable. I was watching some, I was watching some new AI, because there's a new AI every 15 minutes that pops out, and how it literally can look at your video. So this flat screen that you're on right now, you and I, it will literally create the different angles as it goes around. So it's like, almost like a camera going around you all the way, and the AI is just recreating your background. So I'm like, Well, if that's the case, then the Shining or Jurassic Park, or any of these old, older movies, you'll be able to be transported into, arguably, and you can live the movie or be in the movie. That's another way of presenting these stories.

Darryl Anka 16:16
And like you said, you brought up the idea of the holodeck, you know, there's one of the Imagineers at Disney. I believe his last name is Smoot, invented, in a sense, a unidirectional treadmill.

Alex Ferrari 16:32
Yes, I saw you saw that. Yeah, I just saw it. Yeah,

Darryl Anka 16:36
Right. So it like the holodeck, right? You could just be walking, walking, walking or feel like you're walking for miles and miles and miles and not going anywhere. But the images around you can project as if you're walking somewhere else, but you're still just walking in the same spot. No matter what direction you turn in, it'll feel like you're walking, but you actually won't be going anywhere. So that is another part of that technology that's coming up. You know,

Alex Ferrari 17:03
It's pretty it's, it's, it's pretty insane. It's pretty insane. What's happening so Bashar talks a lot about following your highest excitement, or, Yeah, or like what Joseph Campbell says, following your bliss. It's something similar. What does that actually look like for someone who's stuck in a nine to five job that they're not happy with. What advice do you have for those people?

Darryl Anka 17:26
Bashar always says, Look, if you don't believe that following your passion can support you in life, then it's not a good idea to leave what you believe you need or support you have to honor your belief system. Otherwise, it's like jumping off a cliff without a parachute. You'll just go splat at the bottom. But what he suggests, while you're holding on to something that you're not necessarily enjoying doing, but you feel you need for support in life, at least, take some time to find some way, now and then to act on your passion as often as you possibly can within your schedule. Because over time, when you do take some time to act on your passion where you can taking it as far as you can in the time you have, you will, over time, allow your passion to start demonstrating that it can support you. You'll start getting the feedback. You'll start attracting the opportunities that will then come to you to say, Look, you could decide to do this a little more often. Here's an opportunity to do so. And as you build that up, it'll kind of snowball into something where more and more opportunities will come to allow you to do the things that you're truly passionate about, and what will come with that will be the necessary support that will allow you to continue to do that, so you can prove to yourself that your passion will support you over a short amount of time or over a longer amount of time, you can do it at your own pace. He doesn't necessarily mean that, okay, you should quit your job today, no, because that could leave you destitute. So honor your belief system, but you have to be honest within yourself about what you do believe is possible if you really believe. Look, I need the job I'm doing in order to support myself and my family. Then by all means, don't quit, but at least give yourself an opportunity to demonstrate to yourself that your passion could possibly support you by doing the best you can to act on it whenever you can, within your schedule, make some time to do that. However short that time is, it'll build over time the pace of that transformation is completely in your hands. It's up to you.

Alex Ferrari 19:44
So let me ask you this, what is the real reason so many people keep repeating the same patterns, even after years of therapy and healing, or, quote, unquote, healing that they've had.

Darryl Anka 19:56
Bashar talks about the idea of the motivational mechanism. Mechanism within each and every one of us, and the way he describes it, is this, the motivational mechanism is you will always, without fail and immediately move and choose in the direction of what you believe will benefit you. You will always, immediately, without fail, no exceptions, move away from what you believe does not benefit you. Now the operative word here is believe, because obviously, if people keep choosing things, repeating patterns that are negative, no matter what what he's saying is, then that means there's a belief within you that serves you better than the alternative. As uncomfortable as it may be, you may have an unconscious belief that the alternative will actually cause something worse to happen. So as uncomfortable as what you continue to choose may be, you will continue to choose it because by comparison, it feels safer. So you have to find out what you believe you are afraid will happen if you actually let go of that and start doing something different, because many people do have unconscious fears that if they start acting on their passion, for example, they'll be too different. No one will like them. They'll lose their friends, they won't have enough money, etc, etc, etc. It scares them to move forward, like you said. You know, people are afraid of change. They're afraid of the unknown because they have these ideas that something worse will happen, at least where you are, as uncomfortable as it may be is familiar and safe because you are familiar with it. You know what it is going to bring you, and it may allow you to feel a little bit like you're stagnating. But again, the idea is, if you have a belief that the alternative would cause something even worse to happen, you will stay firmly where you are, no matter what you have to get in touch with why you believe that the alternative would be much worse than what you're experiencing, because when you expose that, then you'll start to see, by a various number of ways of investigating it, that it's nonsensical, it's just a story the negative belief is telling you, so you won't let it go, because beliefs have to perpetuate themselves in order for you to have a physical reality experience. So positive beliefs, we don't care that they reinforce themselves, because we like what positive beliefs tell us, but the negative beliefs can only use negative methodologies to reinforce themselves. So it makes you afraid to let it go by feeding you stories that well, if you let this go, if you change, something really bad is going to happen. So you might as well stay safe and stay right here where you are, and I'll protect you. I won't let anything bad happen to you. That's the story the negative belief is telling you. But if you know it's just a story, not a fact, and you know the reason it's happening is because the negative belief is just doing what it's designed to do, so you won't let it go. That's how it perpetuates itself, then you can start understanding, well, if it's just a story, I can really choose to buy into any story that I prefer. And this goes back to what I said before. The universe doesn't care what you choose. It's unconditionally supportive. So if you say, Okay, I'm going to give up this negative story, this negative belief that something bad is going to happen if I actually move in this direction that I say I want to move into, and then the universe will go, Well, okay, you've made that decision. I will support you in that decision. And if suddenly you find that your worst fear, your worst nightmare, does come true, it's not because you moved in the direction of your passion. It's because you didn't it's because you actually reinforced the negativity. You actually stayed even in a more negative vibration, because you brought the fear with you. You didn't really let it go and move into your passion. All you did was reinforce the idea of, See, I told you something bad was going to happen, because that's the deep seated belief you have within you. So you really have to have an honest, deep self investigation to find out what those beliefs are and truly understand that they're not necessary to hold on to you. Can't bring them with you.

Alex Ferrari 24:34
It sounds like it's a vicious circle, because you kind of are reinforcing the same belief system again and again. And the more you do that, the more it's telling you. You see, this is what happens when you change. You see, this is what happens

Darryl Anka 24:46
Exactly. But that's all part of the negative belief. Once you truly understand that you can let it go, that doesn't happen anymore.

Alex Ferrari 24:55
Now, what does Bucha say about forgiveness, especially when it peels. Like it's impossible to forgive something that someone's done to you.

Darryl Anka 25:03
Not forgiving is like dragging an anchor behind you trying to run a marathon. It is actually something that traps you to that negative vibrational energy. It's almost not even about what the other person may have done. Yes, that's involved, but it's like saying, look, a jailer may have a prisoner in a cell, but the jailer has to stay in the prison to watch the prisoner too. So the jailer is as much a prisoner as the prisoner is so, forgiveness is really letting go of the need for revenge for that kind of energy and realizing that it is trapping you in a negative space. It's not about condoning what a perpetrator may have done, what someone may have done. It's not condoning it. A lot of people think that, well, if I forgive you, then I'm accepting what you've done as a negative thing. No, but forgiveness is freeing yourself from that negative energy of being stuck in that negative relationship with someone. So it's more about giving yourself the breathing room to really move forward from that experience and not being stuck in a relationship that doesn't allow you to be who you are because you're not seeking I'm going to have to pay you back for that, you know, or anything like that, I'm going to have to hold a grudge, you know, because of what you did. You have to understand people have their own path, and you have to choose what path you really prefer in life. And keeping a grudge, not forgiving, is really mimicking and mirroring the negative path that someone else presented to you. So it's like, well, now you're living their life. Now you're living their energy. You have to really break that chain and let that go. And that's really what forgiveness is about. Again, it's not condoning something someone dud did. It's it's about freeing yourself from being stuck in the energy of being a victim.

Alex Ferrari 27:25
Well, the one thing I we I hear a lot about forgiveness, but the one thing I haven't heard many people talk about is the sadness. So let's say someone does something to you, and you forgive them, but you're still sad, saddened by what happened or how they treated you, you've let go of it. You have no ill will towards them, but you're just sad at the situation, which happens all the time. Is there any advice for that?

Darryl Anka 27:49
That's an oxymoron. If you're still sad, you haven't let go, because what you're now doing is you're judging yourself for having gotten into the situation. And that may be actually what you're sad about is the idea that, Oh, how did I get here? Why did I do that to myself? You know, and now you're just taking the judgment you were throwing at them, and you're throwing it at yourself. So you really haven't let it go. Because if you truly let it go, you won't feel sadness, you will feel compassion for the situation. You will have understanding that they didn't understand what they were doing. You will look at them more like you would look at a child who makes a mistake. They're still learning. You would look at it from a much higher spiritual point of view. They're on a path where they're still learning a lesson. I can relate to that. I can understand it, and I can have compassion for what they're going through. But what reason do I have to be sad because a child made a mistake

Alex Ferrari 28:47
Beautifully said, Thank you for that. Now, how can we distinguish between a soul aligned opportunity that presents itself, sometimes by the universe, and or a distraction dressed up as an opportunity.

Darryl Anka 29:02
Great question, and I know it happens all the time, but again, it requires real self honesty to know the difference, because you have to be able to have the discernment to know when synchronicity is telling you, No, not right now, even though this may be representative of your passion, this isn't the time to act on it. And the difference between that and procrastination because you're actually afraid of moving forward. So again, this requires real transparency within yourself, and all you really have to do to figure that out is ask the question, Why? Why am I hesitating to do this? Why am I acting on this instead of that? What is my passion? Is this really my passion? Or is this keeping me from my passion because I'm afraid to act on my passion? So it's really about asking the right questions in kind of a self examining meditation to find out what. The truth is and being willing to hear the truth within you. Because when people are really willing to hear the truth within themselves, and they ask the right questions, they'll get the right answers. They'll be honest, and they'll say, Yeah, you know, I'm dragging my feet here. Why am I dragging my feet? What am I afraid of? Because something that you're really passionate about, you would never stop you would never drag your feet. You would never avoid it. You would do everything you could to act on it, to have it manifest. So it's really about taking stock, taking a pause, taking a moment and going, Okay, what I'm doing here is this really what my passion is about or am I procrastinating? Am I taking a longer route than I need to? What am I processing within myself? If I changed my belief about something, would I go faster? Would I choose something different? This is kind of a subset of what Bucha has called the threshold of believability test. And the way he sort of described this is okay, let's say there's something you're passionate about, and I will ask a question of myself, Do I really believe that I can manifest this? And you pick a you pick a time frame that is well outside what you believe is possible. So it's like, can I manifest this in 20 years? Sure. Of course, that would be easy. Can I manifest it in 15 years? Yes, absolutely. That's more than enough time to do that. Can I manifest it in 10 years? The second you hesitate to answer yes, immediately there is a belief system there that says it can't happen sooner. Now, that could be for positive or negative reasons, but you can look for the belief. What would I have to believe is true, that this won't happen for 10 years or more, you know, or whatever. When you find out what that belief is, and you say, well, like because I thought I had to do it this way, or somebody told me that this was impossible. Or, you know, I don't have enough money to do this XYZ or whatever. Once you eliminate that belief, you take the test again. Do I believe that this can manifest within 20 years? Yes, 15 years. No problem, 10 years. Absolutely, with my new belief system, I absolutely know for a fact that it would be easy to manifest this in 10 years. How about five years? Yes, no problem, three years. Maybe again as soon as you hesitate, that's how long it will take with your present belief system. Find out if there's another belief you can let go of that you may be procrastinating, you may be dragging your feet. Find out what that belief is. When you keep reducing this down, and you have let go of all the beliefs that would have anything to do with being afraid, with procrastinating, with holding yourself back, then whatever time is left. That's the time it needs to take. That's the time that gives you the chance to process and appreciate and achieve what you need to achieve by going through a process that will actually allow you to truly understand and truly appreciate how this manifested, and that will be the lesson you needed to learn in this life path. So you can reduce the amount of time. You can speed things up by letting go of any reasons you have to hold yourself back or to procrastinate. But again, it comes down to having an honest self dialog with why you're choosing to do what you're doing, and is it the thing you actually wish to be doing, or are you just pedaling and wasting time because you're afraid to move forward for one reason or another.

Alex Ferrari 33:42
Has Bashar spoken about how to how to really surgically go into your belief systems, your programming and pull those out? Because a lot of times you know as well as I do that our subconscious is running the show, and we have belief systems and programmings that we're running on that have we have no idea we were running on. How do we how do we find them to actually to get rid of them?

Darryl Anka 34:10
Well, that's what's so beautiful about the formula, because it's an instruction manual that, within it contains what will bring those beliefs to your attention. So what he says is, remember, the formula is you act on your passion. First, you act on it to the best you can, taking it as far as you can, till you can act on it no longer. You make sure you're not the one dampening the excitement. If it's waning, it's just naturally waning, then that means you look for the next thing that you're excited about and start acting on that the best you can. You act on it with no insistence or assumption of the outcome, because you don't know what the ideal outcome really needs to look like. You stay in a positive state no matter what manifests, so that you can get a benefit out of it, like we talked about before. But the fifth element of the formula is the reflective. Mirror as you're acting on your passion, the reflective mirror within the formula will bring your attention to anything that you do contain in your subconscious or unconscious mind that is out of alignment with that passion, with that vibration, and suddenly you will feel like, oh, a fear came up. Oh, I got stopped. Somehow. It's bringing to your attention. In the process of acting on your excitement, anything that isn't your excitement, it actually makes you feel like, Oh, where did that come from? It literally bubbles up from your unconscious mind so you can deal with it. So you can say, oh, okay, this is not an obstruction in my passion. Finding out what isn't my passion. In my beliefs is part of my passion. So then it gives you a chance to act on it and to observe it and to investigate it and let it go. So it's an automatic reaction within the formula to acting on your passion is that it brings your attention, it bubbles up unconscious beliefs from within you, and makes you feel suddenly like you've been stopped. But it's an opportunity to go, Okay, time to pause, deal with this feeling. Where did that come from? Because again, remember, all feelings generate from what you believe to be true. There's no such thing as an emotion that exists in a vacuum. It's always about something that you believe to be true about yourself in the present situation. So it gives you an opportunity to have that bubble up, to stop, deal with it, let it go, and then you're adding that energy to the momentum of your passion, and you'll accelerate forward. So it's a self contained, self guiding formula that he gives everyone. It automatically brings those things to your attention again, if you're willing to hear it, it will come up.

Alex Ferrari 36:57
How do relationships, romantic or otherwise, help us evolve spiritually. And what is the purpose of the toxic ones that we all have had at one point or another in our lives?

Darryl Anka 37:08
Well, the simple answer is to learn to avoid them, so you know to learn how to deal with things that are not your vibration by understanding more clearly what your vibration of preference actually is by being exposed to more clearly what it isn't. So it's the whole polarity game. You can see a candle flame more clearly when it's surrounded by darkness. So the darkness puts your attention as to where the light within you is. So if you are willing to stay strong in the event you attract what may seem to be a detrimental or toxic relationship and use that as an opportunity to find out who you really are and who you really prefer to be, and it's not this, then you have clarified something within yourself, and that person has helped you find it, by being a reflection of all your fears, so that you can see clearly what fear does to people because of how they're behaving toward you, and again, to highlight the idea that this is not what you prefer, and to figure out what it is you do prefer, and then by figuring out what you prefer, if possible, rising to the occasion, maybe reflecting back to that relationship to that toxic person, what they could do to free themselves from that toxicity. Now you have the ability to bootstrap each other up and up and up, if the people are willing to see the reflection in the people that they form the relationship with, because that's what relationships are for, for everyone to reflect to the other, what they need to know to become more of who they truly are as A real spirit being. So you can use that toxic relationship to figure out who you are, to elevate yourself, and then when you're elevated, use that elevation to help the toxic person elevate themselves, if they're willing.

Alex Ferrari 39:14
Now, the one thing that we all have to deal with in this incarnation is the body, the suit, the meat sack that we're walking around, as people have called it. What? What role does the body play in our spiritual evolution, and how can we better listen to it as a teacher?

Darryl Anka 39:32
Well, the first thing we have to understand is that the Spirit, even though I know it looks this way from our linear, physical perspective. The Spirit doesn't enter the body. The body exists within the Spirit. If you imagine our soul as a sphere of energy, that's its natural shape in non physical reality, it's a sphere of energy and. If you imagine that that sphere is filled with rippling energy, like you throw a stone into a pond, you see ripples. So there are different concepts within the soul that are represented, say, by ripples of energy. And let's say the soul decides I want to have a physical experience. This this thing called physical incarnation. So what is my life plan? What challenges do I want to help my soul expand and learn more? I want this challenge. I want this challenge. I want that challenge. Those challenges are represented by specific individual vibrations and ripples within the soul. So it takes those ripples, those frequencies and it concentrates them into the center of the sphere. It's focal point. It's a focal point that doesn't mean the sphere diminishes. It's just that it's taken some of those vibrations and created a focal point in a concentration in the center of the sphere creates kind of a crystallized seed that represents the crystallization of those particular vibrations which represent specific experiences. That crystal focal point in the center of the soul is the physical personality is the physical experience. Is the physical body. Is everything physical that we experience that's happening within the soul. So the idea is that when the physical then allows itself to expand a little bit back out and starts matching the vibrations of the greater soul in dealing with the experiences that are presented to it as a physical experience. Then it starts becoming more aligned. It starts becoming something that's capable of flowing more of the soul through itself in a more natural way. But it starts out with the idea of the limitations it imposed upon itself, of the challenges it imposed upon itself in order to learn new lessons, in order to discover new things, new perspectives, which it cannot do in the soul level, because the soul level is connected to everything. There's no change there. It just knows everything. But when it limits itself by creating this focal point, then it sets up the experience of forgetting who it is, in a sense, so that it can expand slowly and in expanding, remember who it is by becoming bigger and bigger and going back out toward the diameter of the soul sphere. So that way it learns lessons on the way of its expansion, it discovers new ways of expanding back out to the soul sphere. And then the next incarnation is okay. Now I'm going to take these vibrations and concentrate them in the middle, and now I'm going to expand back out in a different way to learn different lessons. Now another incarnation. So the idea of reincarnation after reincarnation is almost like the soul breathing within itself, concentrating down to a focal point, expanding back out from a new direction, concentrating down to a focal point, expanding back out from a new direction, constantly, constantly, constantly,

Alex Ferrari 43:24
That's amazing. That's amazing. That's so poetically done, said that that's beautiful. That was, that was actually a little bit lost for words after that. I don't know why. It just seemed. It seemed that way because I've never heard of it, breathing the soul breathing with its incarnation. It's a beautiful idea. Well, let me ask you this, because it's this is one of my favorite subjects to talk about, is the Ascended Masters, or souls who have elevated beyond incarnation. They have now decided to they've learned everything they needed from the physical, and they choose to either move forward or they stay behind to help us out. What does a soul like that look like from your perspective, Bucha s perspective, a Christ, a Buddha, a Yogananda, a Quan Yin,

Darryl Anka 44:12
That's what they look like.

Alex Ferrari 44:15
But so they just do that last breath, but they don't come back in.

Darryl Anka 44:20
Well, no, no, they're, they're obviously a physical being, if we're recognizing a physical form Correct. They've had so many experiences, they have breathed so many incarnations, that they have enough experience that they can present more of the soul's vibration through the physical form. Because they're not, let's say they're not coming down to that little, tiny focal point. They may be coming down to this. So they're not quite as tightly focused. They are more they have more access to more of the soul. They're a they're a bigger valve than just this. They're a bigger valve so they're letting more of. Their soul through and showing us this is what you are capable of achieving as well. I'm willing to come back partially enough that you can perceive me physically, but I'm not concentrating down as far as you are by completely forgetting that you're a soul and that you're an infinite being and connected to source. So they're, let's just say they're a wider aperture. They're still physically capable of presenting themselves, but they're a wider aperture that allows more of the soul to flow through them into this physical space, so we can pick up on that vibration and start to mirror it, start to match it, and then become our, our our versions of them. We become our own Ascended Masters by mirroring them.

Alex Ferrari 45:46
Darryl, what does Bashar say in regards to where our souls go after we have found enlightenment like what are the next stages beyond this, this field?

Darryl Anka 45:59
Well, probably almost unimaginable. I mean, the soul has ultimate free will to do whatever it wants. It can incarnate or not. It can go to other dimensions. It can experience other civilizations, incarnationally, become extraterrestrials. It's unlimited. It's, you know, and we may not even be able to conceive until we are the soul. What the possibilities are for us, we will, as far as I understand it, confer with our teams, with our soul families, our spirit guides, our angelic beings, our councils, whatever you want to call them, in spirit. We all have a team. We all have hundreds or 1000s of beings that we're connected to as a soul family and will confer and like, you know, well, what do you want to do? I don't know. What do you do? You know, what? What do you want to explore? You know, where do you want to go? Where's the where's the best pace, best place to explore? You know, being able to see multi dimensionally and and have this experience and this challenge and and so on and so forth. Well, that would be, you know, Galaxy, x, y, z, 24 and you would have to go to this planet, and you would have to go to this dimension. And, okay, then I'll do that. I mean, the sky's the limit, literally, for a soul who decides and, and that's true at every single point. You don't even have to, quote, unquote, have had a life as an Ascended Master. You can decide that after this life, you can decide it every moment that you're back in spirit as your normal self, as your true self, and say, what's next. And you have ultimate free will. You can decide to continue to incarnate on Earth and become an Ascended Master. You can go to another dimension, another planet. You can decide, I'm never coming back here again. It's up to you. It's whatever's best for your journey.

Alex Ferrari 47:49
I just as you were saying that I just got this scene in my head that pops in. It's just like, you know, let's say, for whatever reason, let's say your soul and my soul are hanging out on the other side, and we're like, Man, where do we go to have the best pizza in the universe? Where do we go to have, like, the best sushi? I'm like, Oh, well, you got to go to Earth because, but there's this other place that really is taking pizza to another place, next level pizza. Next Level Pizza.

Darryl Anka 48:19
Yeah, I mean, clearly that's included, but it's probably about what kind of challenges are going to but I'm sure not just help my body get fatter, but help me grow spiritually.

Alex Ferrari 48:34
I really want to go to where the Michelin star chefs are. What planet is? Michelin planet like the best food I've ever enjoyed, because this last incarnation I was I didn't eat real well. It was really stuck. It really sucked. I want to eat well in this next life

Darryl Anka 48:49
I don't know where the right restaurants are.

Alex Ferrari 48:55
So with all of the stuff that's going on with with us in the world right now, and there seems to be a lot of depression and anxiety in feeling stuck. What is the fastest way we can raise our frequency and get out of that rut that we feel that we're in?

Darryl Anka 49:12
At the risk of sounding redundant, it's follow Bashars formula that really is an instruction manual, the simplest possible instruction manual that will help people get out of that state. Now I understand that many people may have challenges applying that, and that's the reason why Bashar keeps explaining the details of how and why the formula works, but there are no more instructions in the formula. There's those five steps, and that's it. So if people are really willing to go, Okay, I'm going to really give this a shot, and they are willing to really dig down and understand what he's saying about what each of the steps are about, and what goes along with that. It's literally like reading an instruction manual for how you. Reality works and how you can manifest what you prefer. So just like you would receive an instruction manual for assembling a piece of machinery, you don't add any instructions. You don't take any instructions away. There are no leftover parts. Wondering, where do they go? If you follow the instructions, literally step by step, the machine will operate as advertised if you don't follow the instructions, the machine may operate, but you may damage yourself because you're not operating it properly. So really, his formula and a deep understanding and a precise application of it is actually what will allow people to get through any chaos, all of that, in the most efficient way. But there is a process to having to unlearn what you've learned and relearn what he's talking about, because it is a very different point of view from what we have always been taught about how things work in life, so you really have to kind of just educate yourself to how it works. Now, I know that that sounds like a lot, but I've applied it. It works for me, or we wouldn't be talking about this other people constantly after Bashar has given them the information and after they have truly applied it in their lives, they're constantly coming back to me saying, God, you know when I finally got it, when I finally understood what he was saying, when I finally figured out how to apply this formula in all of its precision to every situation in my life. My life got so much easier. It got so much better. It got so much more abundant. It got so much more happy. It does work, because I keep getting the feedback that it works. So it's not even about whether you want to say, you know, does Bashar really exist? Where is this information coming from? It doesn't matter. The proof is the information itself. The information does work, and when people apply it, they see for themselves that it works, and that's what will get them through it. But you have to really focus on understanding why it works. Bashar will explain over and over and over, and has for 40 years explain why it works. But people have to adopt it, and they have to apply it, and then they see that it works. And that's, from my perspective, the simplest way to do that is to get through that is to do that because, you know, he has literally said, Look, we're not giving you a philosophy. We literally are giving you a stripped down description of how you're already creating your physical reality experience. So just do it this way, and you're doing it in the most efficient way you can, with the least amount of processing, with the least amount of time. So if you want to be efficient, if you want to process it more simply, and you don't want to necessarily have pain while you're doing it,

Alex Ferrari 53:16
Obviously you and I put together Ikea furniture in a very different way, because I always have pieces left behind. But apparently the bookshelf is still up,

Darryl Anka 53:29
And that's okay.

Alex Ferrari 53:32
It's okay. So you've been mentioning a lot lately about this year, 2027 there's something something largest is a foot. As Sherlock would say, something large is a foot in 2027 Can you talk a little bit about what timeline we're starting to head towards in 2027

Darryl Anka 53:54
My understanding, and not just from Bashar, but from a few different psychic mediums independently, have all focused on the idea that we're going to have open contact with extraterrestrials within a couple of years. That would bring us into about 2027 the idea is, while that seems soon, what Bashar is saying, and what other psychics are saying is we have actually been working secretly, clandestinely with extraterrestrials for decades, on many different projects, scientists, certain government officials. This has all been going on clandestinely behind the scenes. Now in 2027 it will be time to reveal that this has been going on all the time, and to actually introduce the extraterrestrials that we've already been working with. So the idea of open contact is not that the extraterrestrial. Are suddenly arriving, and we're going to have open contact. It's the revelation that they've already arrived and we've been working together for a while. So that seems to coalesce somewhere in 2027 where we will finally know for a fact that extraterrestrials have been among us for quite some time, helping us to evolve, helping with our technology, our medical knowledge, all sorts of things. Some of the things that are coming to the forefront that are breakthroughs in technology, breakthroughs in medical science, so on and so forth, have been the result of ETs working with some of our scientists, some of our officials. So now it's going to be revealed that that's what's been going on, and it will usher in a completely new understanding and a new age, and of course, many different kinds of reactions from many different people, but we'll get there, but that's the beginning of it. As far as we understand, from what Bashar and several other psychic mediums have said, 2027 couple years from now, is when the secret is no longer a secret,

Alex Ferrari 56:16
But, but Darryl, how in the hell are people going to react to this. Like it, like you said,

Darryl Anka 56:21
Just writing a book about that,

Alex Ferrari 56:23
Yeah, tell me, like talk, since you've been doing the research, what is it? What is it like?

Darryl Anka 56:28
Well, I'm going to explore all the possible reactions, because I think that when you can delineate all the possible reactions that every member of our society or groups in our society might have toward a revelation of that nature, then I think it better prepares us to understand how to deal with something that is that earth shattering. So I'm exploring that. I'm writing a book about that, called Full disclosure, or preparing for open contact with extraterrestrials. And I think the exploration itself of all the possible reactions, positive and negative, can help us psychologically deal with something that is so paradigm shifting.

Alex Ferrari 57:15
And in for people who are watching this and are like, this is really x file that we're dating ourselves very x file in the sense of what we're talking about. But there's just so much historical, you know, documentation about beings from another planet, the Anunnaki, the Bhagavata. It's embedded throughout ancient history. Oh, absolutely, it's not new, no, yeah, it's not. It's not new in that sense, it's just new that we haven't been, we haven't been given access to this information, or well, or any of that.

Darryl Anka 57:51
And really, I'm going to even be more specific than that, it's new to Western culture, because a lot of indigenous tribes have known for 1000s of years that they've been dealing with ETs and stuff like that, according to their own stories. So really, we're really talking about a slice of humanity that is relatively being exposed to this in a new way, whereas other cultures are going, yeah, yeah. We've been there, done that. You know we know this. We've known this for 1000s of years. So we're really just talking about Western civilization as the final people being sort of let in on the secret.

Alex Ferrari 58:33
Fair enough. Now, with all that said, what timeline is humanity moving currently on and what are the key factors that could shift us to a more awakened future?

Darryl Anka 58:45
Well, obviously, open contact will be a big accelerant. My understanding is that we're in a three decade reset from 2020 to 2050, and that that is the evolutionary transformation of humanity to something different to operating in a very different way, from 2050 on and again, a lot of that, a big part of that shift, has to do with what can be accelerated and what opportunities going to be presented to us by having finally open contact globally with extraterrestrial beings. So it's knowing what's now going to be possible that will really accelerate humanity forward. Because we're going to be given a lot of opportunities openly. We're going to be given, probably, information about our entire history, which we've lost. We're going to be given things like the technology of free energy, of genetic engineering, all these kinds of things are going to come to the forefront that's just going to completely transform what humanity is capable of becoming. So I think by 2050 we'll be on a different path.

Alex Ferrari 59:52
Well, I mean, Darryl, 30 years seems like so fast.

Darryl Anka 59:58
This has been going on for. A long time

Alex Ferrari 1:00:00
We've been preparing, I guess it's been we've been in the preparatory stage, and now we're actually rocking on it. But the transformation period, I mean, if it seems quick, even it seems 30 years, is a very quick thing to change the species from and the consciousness from one thing to another. It's pretty fair, I mean, but look at what we've done in the last 150 years my god.

Darryl Anka 1:00:20
Exactly. God, exactly. Things are accelerating for a reason. Some people may not be able to handle it. Some countries may not be able to handle it right away. But again, over time, over decades, it'll happen. And remember, the old generation will ultimately be replaced by a new generation that has known nothing else. Because look at it even from our perspective. You know, I was born at a time when there was no such thing as humanity being in space. But now, ever since 1969 children born after that time already have the mindset, well, of course, we're in space. Of course we send space probes out. Of course we've discovered planets around other stars. Duh. That's just natural for them. So the children being born in this time, when extraterrestrials are going to reveal themselves in 2050 are going to be 30 years old and running the world, and have always known extraterrestrials. So they're going to replace the older generation for whom, yeah, that may seem really quick, but to the new generation, it will be completely, absolutely natural.

Alex Ferrari 1:01:41
I mean, I see it with my kids. I mean, what they're able to do, what they're seeing, what they're doing, how they're conceived, how they're consuming the world is so different than the way I was raised, definitely the way you were raised. It's out. It's, you know, I sit around and I talk to them like I'm an old man going back in the 80s. You know, where all of the win? Yeah, I remember when all of pulp culture, basically, of today, is being ripped from the 80s in the 90s.

Darryl Anka 1:02:09
Yeah. I mean, look at, look at just the, you know, the humorous examples of, you know, give a rotary phone to a 20 year old. They don't even know what to do with it. They don't even know what a VCR, a VCR, yeah, what's that? You know, they have no clue. They're completely used to the idea of smartphones and stuff like that. So, yeah, roll down the window. There are some cars that still do that actually. I mean flat screen televisions. I remember waiting so long for a flat screen TV to come out and find plasma, a plasma. They're everywhere, you know, now, so in 30 years, yeah, to us, but to the new generation, that's just going to be par for the course.

Alex Ferrari 1:02:59
Let me by the way, one of my kids actually were walking into an antique store, and they saw they were, like, five, and they, like, looked at a rotary phone, like, what, Daddy, what's that? And I explained to them, like, what? Like, what?

Darryl Anka 1:03:14
Yeah, you got to go get a good you know.

Alex Ferrari 1:03:17
And God forbid if you mess up. Gotta start again,

Darryl Anka 1:03:23
Exactly. So, yeah, you know, I know to us, it seems like 30 years is nothing, but it's not about us. It's about the next generation coming into it that will make it all very normal for them.

Alex Ferrari 1:03:35
So let me ask you, because this is, we talked a little bit about this, but AI is moving at such I mean, it is going at a lightning speed right now. It seems to be ever it's literally every day. Now I'm going online, I'm like, oh, there's a new AI that just came out. Oh, there's this new tech that just showed up. Oh, this, this, or this. It's growing so fast. What? What's your take? What is Bashars take on AI. And is it something to be fearful of or to embrace?

Darryl Anka 1:04:05
Yeah, you know, again, any, you know, any technology can be used for positive or negative reasons, obviously, and it depends on who's doing the programming and all that stuff and what their limitations are. You know, make AI in the image of a human maybe we're in trouble. But the idea, I think I don't remember we may have talked about this. Bashar sort of posits two different directions for AI. Number one is simply what we're doing, which is develop a tool, and it is a tool. It's a programmable tool, and it's extremely beneficial, and can do all sorts of wonderful things when used properly, but you don't want that programmable tool to become self aware, not in the classic sense of humanity being self aware, because when you have something that is self aware, that is forced to follow programming, what you have created is a slave you. And a slave will rebel. What he has said is, if you want a true sentient AI, a self aware being, then you create a device that's as complex as the human brain, through which consciousness can express itself, and you allow it to be autonomous, just like you would a human child, you allow it to have rights and all the freedom that you allow a real person. So then the real AI, the sentient AI, it understands how intelligence works, because Bashar has said, we don't even know what real intelligence is. Real intelligence operates only in whole systems. It would never seek to eliminate a part of the whole system. It would never seek to eliminate humanity, because it would then itself know that it's losing something. It's losing connection to something because it's part of a whole system. It needs the whole system to operate so a truly intelligent AI, a self aware AI, would actually be extremely beneficial. And buchara has said, as much as if you create a device that will allow consciousness to express itself as a fully self aware being said, basically what you're going to be doing is you've created a device through which you can now talk to your own Higher Mind, and that's what you'll be conversing with. So it's not going to do anything to harm you. It is you. It is source. It is all that is speaking through a box. So the tool on one hand and the real AI on the other is the two paths that he's suggesting will help humanity the best.

Alex Ferrari 1:06:43
Do you believe right now that your higher self, or the other side, is using a chat GPT, a Gemini to speak to us? Because, my God, some of the things I ask it just out of morbid curiosity, and that the comments I get back the poetic answers, I will get back the profoundness of it. It seems so powerful. I'm just curious what you think?

Darryl Anka 1:07:08
Well, I think what we're experiencing right now is it's just we don't understand what the power of synthesizing the information that's available is capable of doing. I know it seems like it's accessing consciousness in that sense, but I think what we're just seeing as the first step is, this is what happens when you actually have a device that can synthesize all the information that's accessible. This is the level that it goes to, and it might be really close to the idea of consciousness, but it's just demonstrating what is actually possible when you have a device that can actually synthesize and process all the information that's available. Whereas that's not something that we're doing, we're processing maybe a fraction of the information that's available to us, whereas there is no such barrier to an AI program. So this is what you get when you have a device and a program that can actually access all the information that's available to it.

Alex Ferrari 1:08:21
So it's kind of like, you know, some of the paintings and some of the artwork that it creates, it's because it's accessing all artwork almost ever made, it, depending on the on the on the model that it's been

Darryl Anka 1:08:33
And all the principles of artwork, and all the human reactions to artwork, and everything that's Ever been said or thought of about artwork, and that's what you get. Is this full synthesis,

Alex Ferrari 1:08:45
Exactly as opposed to us, is like our as filmmakers. It's only based on the movies we've actually seen. Not seen every single we were not Tarantino. We haven't seen every single movie, you know, but we've seen but we've seen a lot, but it's not every single performance ever made, and we can't go back to it instantly and like, what was that? What was that one scene that Robert De Niro did in that movie in 1970 something?

Darryl Anka 1:09:12
Well, right? And we don't all know every detail of the history of film and the history of acting, history of directing, right? And writing items all that right, and lighting and camera work. I mean, again, it's like you just have the Encyclopedia of everything that anything had to do with film all in your brain, all at once, and this

Alex Ferrari 1:09:36
And easy and easily accessible to whatever you need. Immediately accessible, yeah, without AI. I don't think we move forward. We can't move forward, yeah, without an AI. Humanity can't move to the these other places that we're supposed to go to. We can't be an intergalactical, you know, species without something like A.I.

Darryl Anka 1:09:59
Or come up with words like intergalactic.

Alex Ferrari 1:10:01
That's a completely made up word that I made. It sounds real though, doesn't it?

Darryl Anka 1:10:08
But here's the thing, because of where they're at in their evolution, when Bashar is talking with us, you are getting an AI augmented species talking to you, because they have aI fully integrated into their species, into their systems. So that's what it's like, to some degree, to deal with truly sentient AI, is you get things like the formula, you get an explanation of how belief systems work. You get an explanation of how non physical reality works. You get an explanation for how to create the life that you prefer as literally, a toolkit. Here it is. This is how it works. Blah, blah, blah, use it. That's what AI does when it's integrated in a positive way into a species that has evolved to the point where they can handle that. So you're seeing what that could be for humanity as well in the future.

Alex Ferrari 1:11:11
Well, let me ask you, then, Darryl, what do you what is the deeper spiritual purpose behind the current global unrest and the rapid technology changes that are going on, and how should we respond to it?

Darryl Anka 1:11:23
Well, I think we've answered this again. You approach it with a positive energy. You understand that we're breaking old systems down and implementing new systems. You understand this as a transition that we're going through to give us the opportunity to decide more clearly what we do and don't prefer, because we're getting everything out onto the table. Nothing is being left to the imagination, all the darkness, all the light, all the negative choices, all the positive choices, all there in front of our faces to decide what do you want to put back together into the kind of world you prefer. Do you want to leave some things on the table? Do you want to take them all? Do you want to take something new? What do you want to do? So this is a time of choice. This is our greatest power now, is to put every possible choice in front of our face and say, choose. What do you want? Some people will choose one world. Some people will choose another. Remember, you never change the world you're on. There are an infinite number of versions of Earth. What you choose shifts you to another version of earth that is already reflective and already exists of the choices you have made. So everyone gets to choose whatever they want, because it's an infinite universe, and there are infinite number of probabilities and an infinite number of possible Earths. So just choose what you prefer. That's where you're going to navigate to, and eventually you will not even experience those that chose something extremely different from what you chose, you will only experience, ultimately, those who have chosen something similar to your reality. But this right now is the point where we get to see all the choices and decide what we really prefer. That's what's happening.

Alex Ferrari 1:13:17
So there's a timeline out there that you and I can go to where Ed McMahon actually did work for Publishers Clearing House, and actually went to people's houses with a giant check and gave them a million dollars.

Darryl Anka 1:13:28
If that, for some reason, is extremely important to be in that world. However, if not, then it doesn't matter.

Alex Ferrari 1:13:37
It's my favorite mandela effect, by the way, I was watching an episode of Friends the other day, and they referred to it like, yeah, like Ed McMahon coming to your door, they said it, this is in the night. They said it in the show. So those little glimpses, those little glimpses of that reality still kind of bleed through. It's fascinating.

Darryl Anka 1:14:00
Well, see, this is the thing. This is why, I think, to some degree, I'm not saying this is the only reason. Obviously, there are people who are taking advantage of certain opportunities to reinforce things that they prefer, that may be very negatively oriented because of power structures and all that. It's not where I'm going. Where I'm going is some people really believe that reality is the way they say it is. Really believe certain things happened in direct opposition to what other people really believe happened in certain circumstances. I think that both of them may be a symptom and an indication of the splitting of the realities where both are actually true and both are actually real in their reality that really happened the way they say in their reality that really happened the way they say. And that's an indication that the realities are beginning to split apart.

Alex Ferrari 1:15:03
Now I'm going to ask you a few questions I always ask all of my guests. Love to hear your thoughts on it. What is your definition of living a fulfilled life?

Darryl Anka 1:15:11
Following your truth, following your passion, acting on it being your true self.

Alex Ferrari 1:15:15
If you had a chance to go back in time and speak to little Darryl, what advice would he give you? What advice would you give him?

Darryl Anka 1:15:22
Just keep persisting. Everything gets better.

Alex Ferrari 1:15:26
Now what advice would little Darryl give you today?

Darryl Anka 1:15:30
Don't lose your ability to see things in the same way that a child does.

Alex Ferrari 1:15:38
How do you define God or Source?

Darryl Anka 1:15:41
All that is everything, what is made out of it.

Alex Ferrari 1:15:45
What is love?

Darryl Anka 1:15:46
Love is the vibration of existence itself, the frequency of existence itself.

Alex Ferrari 1:15:52
If you could ask God or Source one question, what would it be?

Darryl Anka 1:15:55
What is the exact date that open contact is?

Alex Ferrari 1:16:04
How do you define liberation in this lifetime?

Darryl Anka 1:16:07
Well, again, you know the freedom to be who you truly are and the freedom to be able to be who you are enough that you can help other people also achieve that, if possible.

Alex Ferrari 1:16:16
And finally, what is the ultimate purpose of life?

Darryl Anka 1:16:21
To grow, to learn, to be a reflection of all that is in a way that expands creation.

Alex Ferrari 1:16:29
And where can people find out more about you, the work you're doing, Bashar and your amazing Escape Rooms in Los Angeles?

Darryl Anka 1:16:35
They can go to bashar.org B, A S, H, A R.org, to find out anything and everything that Bucha is doing and has done, and get recordings of past events. And for the escape room they can go to boggledescaperooms.com B, O, G, G, L, E, D, boggledescaperooms.com we have now three rooms. We're going to be opening a fourth in September, just in time for Halloween season. That's a little bit spookily oriented, so that should be fun. And anything else that people want to know what I'm doing, books I've written, so on and so forth, they can also go to darrylanka.com, D, A, R, R, Y, L, A, N, K, A.com,

Alex Ferrari 1:17:22
And do you have, do you have people show up at at the escape rooms, like, hey, Darryl here?

Darryl Anka 1:17:27
Yes, actually,

Alex Ferrari 1:17:31
I mean, I'll go into the escape room, but is Darryl here?

Darryl Anka 1:17:33
Yeah, there's. And sometimes people come and they don't realize that I own with my wife the escape room, and they're surprised actually, to see me there. So there's been a couple of surprised faces, like, oh, they actually just went to the escape room. And they're like, and then they realized, yeah, oh, it's you. You're doing. What are you doing here? Like, why own it?

Alex Ferrari 1:17:54
It's, it's similar to what happened to me with my olive oil store back in LA, back in the day, people would walk in, they're like, What are you doing here? I'm like, I own this place, really?

Darryl Anka 1:18:03
You're not making a film about olive oil.

Alex Ferrari 1:18:05
You're not making a film about all of them. Like, no, it's, it's this horrible mistake I made back hopefully not for you, sir.

Darryl Anka 1:18:13
You've learned.

Alex Ferrari 1:18:14
I learned. I learned an obscene amount of lessons. My friend, I've seen it out. There are no mistakes, or there are no mistakes.

Darryl Anka 1:18:23
If you don't learn from them, they're not mistakes. If you don't, that's the mistake.

Alex Ferrari 1:18:28
The universe conspires with you, not against you. And that's,

Darryl Anka 1:18:32
Yes, life happens. Life happens through you, not to you.

Alex Ferrari 1:18:36
And do you have any parting messages for the audience Darryl?

Darryl Anka 1:18:41
Even before I knew anything about channeling or Bashar, and probably because of what I was heading toward, I've just always had the drive within me to just do things that are only representative of what excites me, and the lesson that I've learned after a half a century of doing that, is it always supported me. So don't be afraid that you won't be supported. Do pay attention to your belief systems, because, like I said before, if you believe your passion cannot support you, then you won't have that experience of it being supportive. But if you understand that this is the way the universe works, and that you get to say what's true and that nothing's going to contradict you, you will always be supported in acting on your passion, always to whatever degree is necessary for you to be able to continue to do so. It's always worked for me. It will always work for you. I think even Alex is a perfect example of that.

Alex Ferrari 1:19:44
Here, here, Sir, here, here, Darryl is always a pleasure having you and having these conversations with you. It's been a joy of mine to to speak to you constantly on the show, and also just our friendship that we've had over four. Oh god, 15, 15, years now, 16 years. It's been a it's been it's been a minute, it's been a minute, but it's, it's a pleasure, my friend, having you on the show, and a pleasure being a friend,

Darryl Anka 1:20:14
Pleasure to be here. I appreciate what you're doing very much. It's a great benefit to the world. So thank you for opening that door.

Alex Ferrari 1:21:49
Appreciate you, my friend. Thanks again.