Alex Ferrari 0:00
Every time there's been a major change in my life, there has to be a small death of the old self.

Masati 0:05
So it's like as you observe what's broken, whether it's your belief system, your logics, you know, your health or whatever, you change a little bit each moment. How do you optimize yourself so you're not, say, running the same patterns because that allows you to graduate to the next level in an awakened near death. This is where your life review happens, and again, it's not a life review; it's a life relive.

Alex Ferrari 0:29
But the kid in the video store, yeah, who fell in love with movies, who fell in love with storytelling. Yes, I'm gonna get teary. I'm gonna get teared up here. Stop it, Masati.

Alex Ferrari 0:49
I'd like to welcome back to the show returning champion Masati. How you doing, Masati?

Masati 0:53
I'm doing fantastic, Alex. Thanks for having me back.

Alex Ferrari 0:56
Thank you so much for coming back on the show, dude. Our last conversation, people really, really loved it, you know. It was a we we went deep down the rabbit hole of your near death experience.

Masati 1:05
Yes.

Alex Ferrari 1:06
Can you and really quickly for people who didn't read or listen to that last episode, just tell us really quickly about your near death experience, if you can.

Masati 1:15
Yeah, I've had three of them, and they were more learning or graduation experiences for me. So the first one literally allowed me to understand what we all seek. You know, the deeper potential of who we are. So the first one showed me as like, damn, that's our potential that we could like literally create or manifest in this reality. So the first one was more of a journeyman, or actually an apprentice level. The second allowed me to see the code, the mechanics on how to say render those realities, the potential that we feel deep inside, and bring it into physical reality, like aging younger or you know creating wealth without the sacrifice and all those patterns that we do. So that was more of I would say a journeyman where you get proficient at creating say fantastic events for yourself and others. The third near death, I think, was a mastery level for me, where I started to change my say genetic coding. Like I haven't aged like my like my family has. I don't have the diseases that my family has. You know, just just eliminating all that and just looking younger. You know, more proficient, more more healthy, more everything-the way we should age.

Alex Ferrari 2:26
Exactly, exactly, exactly. Yeah. So you're not eating fast food every day, is what you say.

Masati 2:30
It's not that you force yourself not to eat; you just don't want to eat because it's not good for you,

Alex Ferrari 2:36
Right!

Masati 2:36
You know what I mean. It's it's a very different level.

Alex Ferrari 2:39
You know, it's funny. Funny, I had a a yogi Indian guru in the room just a few weeks ago, actually, and he's a profound master. I mean, he's 82, he's legendary, and and his energy, like his aura, you can just feel it when he's in the room. But right before, it's just the funniest story, and I and by the time this comes out, it might you might have heard it other times, but I just think it's hilarious. Is that he said to to me? He's like, Alex, do you have any garbage food? Because in the studio, in the studio, we have pretty much clean food. You know, it's all pretty much you know healthy and you know nice. You know, nothing crazy, but you know, a couple treats, but generally not. We don't have garbage food here because it's not what we do. And he's like, "Do you have garbage food? I go, "What is what is garbage food? He goes, "Snickers. Do you have Snickers? Do you have a Butterfinger? Do you have a? And I go, "What? Why do you need? I'm just curious. Why do you need this? He goes, "I need it because it's what grounds me when I go into a into a session like this. Oh, really? Because if not, it I will just keep going, and what is because the energy of that garbage food keeps them. He keeps them grounded to earth, and it's hard to think about how that is, isn't it? But it's fascinating. I get it. I get it.

Masati 3:53
I get it. I use rock and roll and meat,

Alex Ferrari 3:58
And what?

Masati 3:59
Good steak.

Alex Ferrari 4:00
Yeah, that's a but that's a heavier vibration frequency kind of food that will keep you you know a little bit more grounded to earth. No question.

Masati 4:08
Yeah, brings you back.

Alex Ferrari 4:08
It brings you back exactly. For those of you who've been fasting for 30 days, then it's a little bit different. I just found that garbage food. I thought was great. So can you really quickly before we dive into your amazing work, can you explain to people what happens to consciousness the moment the body finishes, when it stops? Like, what happens to the consciousness when you die? When you die, exactly. When the when the machine ceases to work anymore. What's from your perspective of dying three times? Which, by the way, stop it! Don't die anymore. I don't think I need to. Yeah, please stop it. After the third one, you should probably just slow it down. So, what actually happens when the body ceases?

Masati 4:50
And I work. You know, I've done like over 100,000 sessions, client sessions, and so I start to see patterns. You know, people ask me, "Is like, hey, can you, you know, help?" My you know parents cross over whatever so there's different levels of say opportunities for that body sometimes a lot of times unfortunately especially with through hospice and through you know drugs where where the where the person is so numbed out that the spirit doesn't the body dies but the spirit still thinks it's here, so the spirit literally stays, hangs out, and I and I can see that because and many people can experience it. You know, they go, yeah, I think, oh, my dad's still around me, and it's like, yeah, because he's still around you. You know, so that presence, it's like a dream state. Think of a dream state where you can do everything that you can, but you don't have to have a body to do it. That makes sense for you. So there's a reality. This is reality zero. Most most people go to reality one, which is again everything you can do here. Time still works the same, but you can't bring density, so you can't bring a body there. So in between zero and one. This is where you see ghosts or wisps or you know feel presences, things of that things of that nature. They're stuck, say, in

Alex Ferrari 6:07
Elementals as well. Can you see elementals in that in that phrase? Like you know you don't want elementals, right? Yeah, that kind of thing. Things that are not in this density.

Masati 6:16
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 6:16
But they they you get wisps of it.

Masati 6:18
Yeah, you get wisps of it. You get you know like like you know like sparkly things and all this

Alex Ferrari 6:24
Like orbs and orbs and stuff like that.

Masati 6:26
So they're they're in between the two layers. Got it. But once you transcend into that layer again, you can't bring any density along.

Alex Ferrari 6:33
That's the third. That's not in between. So there's this layer zero 0.5 and

Masati 6:37
Then one one.

Alex Ferrari 6:38
Okay, so now we're talking about one. Got it.

Masati 6:39
So most people hover at level one because one they're not awakened. People who commit suicide, for example, they usually hang out and they reenact, say the last say five seconds of their of their life here, and that plays forever. And it's not a loop. It's just that there's no time, no space at that higher level, and they just like they just like forever feel that torture. So it's not a good idea to commit suicide. By the way, guys, it's not not a good thing. No, not a good thing at all. People who are awakened, and there's there's a couple things that you can do, and you know help people do that. So so when you die properly or an awakened death, you start to say start to re-render your life. Now, my first near-death experience I had where I had a life review, and many people go life review, but you actually it's a it's a life relive where you go through life and you relive it the way it should have been for you, if if you were an optimal soul, if you were awakened to your potential and you had the opportunity, you probably wouldn't do a lot of the things that we normally do here in life. Does that make sense?

Alex Ferrari 7:55
So it would be equivalent of like we've seen this happen with athletes, celebrities, musicians-these kind of things, where they you can you can see like, wow, if that guy wouldn't have had a drug problem, or

Masati 8:10
Exactly,

Alex Ferrari 8:10
And he could have been like, oh my god! So we, I always like to say like Michael Jordan, one of the greatest, if not the greatest, basketball players ever live, right?

Masati 8:17
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 8:18
But he ate horribly and did not have the greatest training regimen historically. Now there's LeBron, who is a-I mean, he's a great guy, and I don't want to get into that right now, guys. But my point is that he has taken care of his body in a way that has given him longevity in a way that Michael never had. Exactly. But what Michael did do is he was able to do what he did eating McDonald's. You know,

Masati 8:43
He tapped into a source,

Alex Ferrari 8:45
Right! It was something different.

Masati 8:46
So, so what is that source? So, despite what you eat, despite you know,

Alex Ferrari 8:49
He was doing something else.

Masati 8:51
Yeah, he was tapping into say an altered state, flow state. Okay, yeah, Michael, and you know, again, I do that for people. So, so in that situation, if you're an awakened death, you go out, you go back into that level one, and you relive life the way it should have been. So this is where again, drug problems and all the problems that people have. If you were like an optimized being, and I just want to back up. So there's always two, say, parallel lives that you live: your optimal self that you're comparing yourself to. What could have been without you know genetic patterns, you know disease patterns, programming, you know societal patterns, generational patterns, and you know your previous lifetimes and so on. So that optimal self is always running, say parallel with you, and you can always say activate that whenever, as long as you, and that's what awakening is. So, if that makes sense to you, so so so you're always referencing, say, your optimal self, no matter where you are, compared to what you're doing physical.

Alex Ferrari 9:53
Do they, do those interact sometimes, depending on what you're doing? Like if you're if you read a book or you. Started to awaken. Do you get to that optimal, and then maybe

Masati 10:03
Yeah, you start to yeah. So that optimal self is there. That's where you're awakening. When people go, you know, it's an awakening experience. It's like, oh, I'm seeing my life through that optimal version of who I am. We have glimpses void of those, and we have glimpses of that. That's why we have glimpses because it's available for us all the time. Beautiful, right? Like psychedelic experiences, plant medicines, all those things go. Oh, let's leave this this this this timeline behind, and we'll go into this timeline. So, in an awakened near death, this is where your life review happens. And again, it's not a life review; it's a life relive. So you'll go in and redo your life and go, oh, that's the way it should have been, because that allows you to graduate to the next level, so to speak, and the next level, and the next level, and and so on. So it depends. All depends on say how awakened you are when you.

Alex Ferrari 10:58
So when you relive your life in a in a in a life review or a life relive, I understand that because from all the near death experiencers that I've spoken to, is that they it's not like just watching a movie. I think the best example of it, if we can give an example of it, is in like like that movie Minority Report, yeah, where there's like 100 screens and you're seeing them all. But the difference is those are all key scenes of your life or your entire life, just in a way we can't comprehend. But you jump in and live both perspectives. Is that something that

Masati 11:30
That's what happened to me. Yeah. The the first near death allowed me to relive my life up to that moment. You know, I was like 22 when I died the first time, and so I was as like I could I could experience myself being born, and you're not watching yourself. You're you're just aware of how you're growing. And 22 years compressed maybe down into seconds, which kind of blew my mind. Is like okay, so what happened there? Like how did I live 22 some years in just mere seconds? You know, or maybe a minute. I don't know how long I was gone. Maybe like 1015, minutes I was gone. So, so it was like. But when on my near deaths, I was very conscious of what was happening to me, and that, and that's the key difference between, say, my near death and most people's near death. They experience it, but they're not say conscious of say what's happening to them. For my near deaths, I was very conscious, so I learned a lot.

Alex Ferrari 12:24
So you were conscious, like, oh, I'm dead.

Masati 12:26
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 12:26
And oh, I, I, oh, I see what's going on here. I understand it

Masati 12:29
Absolutely.

Alex Ferrari 12:30
As opposed to like, where am I? Is that Jesus? Like, yeah, exactly, kind of thing.

Masati 12:34
You know, like you're traveling through. You're actually like the back. You know, like in the studio, you've got the backend. You know, you're seeing the back end on how everything works behind the curtain. Behind the curtain. That's how conscious I was.

Alex Ferrari 12:47
So you were seeing like the, and then you were able to bring some of that information back. Because also, when you're on the other side, I understand that all of a sudden you understand everything, and you're tapped into the universal cloud in the sky. It's knowledge wise. I call it the universal database. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I call it computer programmer by trade. I call it the cloud because it's similar. It's similar. It's similar, right? So you put, but then our programming or our hardware cannot bring all that back in. So you brought in glimpses of that because you can't bring all the information that you have access to when you're on the other side. Or am I incorrect?

Masati 13:19
You could, but then you disappear

Alex Ferrari 13:25
Because that's not what this place is about.

Masati 13:27
Well, it's a magic trick, right? Because if you were totally awakened, you couldn't render yourself here in physical form, because you'd you'd say like a magic trick. Once you understand the magic trick, the magic doesn't work upon you, so time and space is a magic trick.

Alex Ferrari 13:43
Yeah.

Masati 13:44
Right. Yeah. And then, so if you understand how time and space space work and still stay here, that's really the key, and that's how you can bring say that pure potential into physical existence. There's also another thing too: is that in your higher states, time works very differently. Possibilities are available for you. You know, if you wanted to be 20 years old, boom. You know, you're there. You know, in my second year, that as soon as I thought of something, I was I was that thing, no matter what it was. It's like, oh, I want to go to Paris. It's like I found myself in Paris. You know, or you know, I I wanted to be water. It was really amazing. The second near death is like I want to be experience being water, and I I was different forms of water. You know, calm water. I was like you know waves crashing, and I'm going whoa. This is really cool.

Alex Ferrari 14:33
So you're feeling being a wave.

Masati 14:35
Yes.

Alex Ferrari 14:36
And this is happening on the other side.

Masati 14:37
Yes. On my second year of death, I'm going. How does that happen? Is like how can I be conscious and be water? So you you live without form. You're not like a physical presence. You actually morph into a consciousness of water, which is crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's it's like it's mind blowing. So so in that instance, it's you're. You know, you can morph into pretty much anything, but if you're in linear time, it's pretty hard because you have a physical body, so obviously you can't morph into that. So there are limitations. You can't bring everything down,

Alex Ferrari 15:13
Right! Yeah, but but you could all. But you wouldn't want to exactly because that's not the point of this game. It's not. It's kind of like having the cheat code.

Masati 15:19
Exactly,

Alex Ferrari 15:20
And that's not the point of this, you know, because it gets boring. If you get boring, if you get, because that's not what this is. This experience is about. Yes, you can experience things here that is much more difficult, if not impossible, on the other side because of

Masati 15:36
Yes

Alex Ferrari 15:36
The density.

Masati 15:37
True, right? Yes, and the key here, I guess, you know, is how do how do you optimize yourself so you're not, say, running the same patterns because we're on repeat. I mean, we repeat the same wars, the same problems. I mean, as a conscious, as a humanity, as humanity, you know, it's like so. But there are other like moments of time and space that haven't been created. So the key here is like not playing the games of you know your past. It's like what are possibilities for your life that you could live, right? And that's really really important for people.

Alex Ferrari 16:11
So you know because I've spoken to so many near death experiencers and spoken to many researchers as well. Is there anything that you feel is missing from your experience, from the tapestry of information that we know about near-death experiences.

Masati 16:26
Most people, most researchers think that it's a brain event that happens. You know, the latest research is like, you know, the dream states people go through, the experiences that people go through. It's like certain rewiring of your brain and so on, like that. It's really not. No, it's yeah. It's like literally a separation. It's it's the power source that renders your physical body. So most people, you know, most research think that it's just your physical body and nothing else. But it's actually the opposite. It's your presence or your life force that renders or creates your body here. Well, we animate the other way, right? It animates it. It animates.

Alex Ferrari 17:05
Well, anyone who's ever been in the presence of a relative or someone who has passed, I remember very clearly when my grandfather passed. Yes, more so than my grandmother. I don't know why, but when I I was there at the funeral, I was probably in my mid 20s. Yeah, I remember touching him. Yeah, in in the coffin.

Masati 17:28
Kind of a crazy. Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 17:29
I touched him, and and he was very obviously stiff and yeah, all that. But I'm like, he's not there.

Masati 17:36
I saw that with my mother.

Alex Ferrari 17:37
Yeah, he he's not there anymore. Like who, whatever was my grandfather is no longer in this meat suit.

Masati 17:45
Exactly, it's just a vehicle.

Alex Ferrari 17:47
It's just it's that's all it is. We're walking around in meat suits.

Masati 17:50
Exactly,

Alex Ferrari 17:50
That's all this is. So, but whatever that was, he's not there, and he's not there. And that was the first time, young man, 25 or so, that I understood. Oh, oh, they're they're just they're just not there anymore. Yes. So I don't know what that was, but there but whatever was that's not my grandfather anymore. Yep. You know I see it. I see I see an aura around it. Like I don't see auras, but like I see I I see what it was, and I can place my my memories of what this looks like,

Masati 18:22
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 18:22
But he is no longer there.

Masati 18:24
He's no longer there. Yeah, I've seen that with my mom, and this is again, this is the the science that we get into, where you know, so explaining that, you know, and getting in, getting into where we can say duplicate the process over and over for people.

Alex Ferrari 18:41
Duplicate what process?

Masati 18:42
Proper death, awakening while you're in your meat suit. You don't have to die to understand, or you don't have to have a near death experience. You don't have to say have say a tragic awakening to say hold the existence or the pleasures of life, or have this life have meaning for people?

Alex Ferrari 19:06
Every time there's been a major change in my life, there has to be a small death of the old self in order to move forward. This is my my my walking through it, and please tell me what you think. True, but like throughout my life, there's been these. There's always ups and downs, so when there is a major shift of some sort, there has to be a death. At least from my experience of who you were, and I think we're doing that almost on a daily basis. But there's also because obviously, like our body is regenerating itself, you know, all that kind of stuff all the time. But I'm talking about the psychological self, the spiritual self. That I'm like, oh, that's not me anymore.

Masati 19:42
Right.

Alex Ferrari 19:43
If you're if you're in an evolutionary standpoint, many people just are afraid of that, and they'll just stay here.

Masati 19:49
Right.

Alex Ferrari 19:50
Throughout life, I've known many people, many relatives who I'm like, Jesus, you're the exact same that you were 20 years ago, dude. Like that's insane to me. And like,

Masati 19:59
Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 20:00
Have not like you're dressing the same. You sound the same. You have the same job. You haven't done a damn thing different. Like they just

Masati 20:06
Exactly

Alex Ferrari 20:07
Coast. So is that does that make sense? Does that jive with what you're true your point?

Masati 20:11
Yeah. So so what I see is one most people see themselves from the physical being and they want to reach out, like a lot of spiritual people, or a lot of spirit, we teach a lot of spiritual teachers to you know to understand, say, the concepts more at a logistical level rather than just say etherical or feeling level. But but most people think that they're they're a physical being and they want to reach out to their say spirit, but it's really not. So what I understand, and you know, we were just talking about that, is that you are of an ever-present being. I call it a timeless self, rendering itself in physical time. So it's a flip of that. Now, when you create yourself in physical, in the physical moment, I mean, you're you're a video guy. So do you understand? You understand frame rates,

Alex Ferrari 21:03
Of course, 24 frames. Yeah,

Masati 21:04
Yeah. So frame rates. So each moment, or better yet, have you seen those flip books? You know where you draw, yeah, you draw something.

Alex Ferrari 21:13
Yeah, it's old school, like the the I forgot what they were called, but they were the the the scopes back in like the early 1900s, 1800s.

Masati 21:20
Yeah, or you know, you draw you draw something on each page, and it's animation. Well, that's that's animation. Flip the book, and it moves. So that's basically how you create yourself. So you are really rendering yourself as a frame rate, and actually, there's quanta physics where the universe says it moves in frames. It's not like fluid motion, like we think it is.

Alex Ferrari 21:42
It's it's a it's an illusion.

Masati 21:43
It's an illusion.

Alex Ferrari 21:44
Well, so so now you're getting into my world. So so for everyone listening, so frame when he's talking about frame rates, a movie frame, right? Every second that goes by when you're watching a movie, this is shooting on old film, but the digital is just emulating film.

Masati 22:00
Exactly.

Alex Ferrari 22:00
In America, it was 24 frames a second.

Masati 22:04
Yes.

Alex Ferrari 22:04
To to render realistic motion. Exactly. If you shoot less frames, it goes faster. If you shoot more frames, it shoots it shoots slow mo. In Europe, it's 25, but it's basically close enough. So 24 frames a second is that. Yes. So the illusion of movement when your eye is being tricked. Yes, that's just being shown 24 frames a second, and it gives the illusion of movement. So when we're creating the universe or our own life, this this code, this this simulation is also creating that, but at a scale that you and I can't comprehend.

Masati 22:39
Right, because it's a very very it's a very very fast frame rate. Although I have gotten people at say such a high resonance that their life starts to glitch a bit because they're starting to see deja vu the frame rates. But my my my point is that though most people just copy the last frame, and like your friend you were talking about, most people copy the last frame and put it into the next, into the future, and that's all they do. They copy from the past, put it into the future. Yeah. So in my work in exponential intelligence, we go well. Wait a second. How am I rendering the next frame? So you become an observer perspective on it's like oh, this is how I created the last frame of myself. The next moment I can change just a tiny bit.

Alex Ferrari 23:32
That's all you need. It's a small. It's a small adjustment.

Masati 23:35
Yeah, because 24 frames per second, and you're you're probably going you know maybe 1000, 2000 frames per millisecond.

Alex Ferrari 23:42
So if so, from this to this takes a minute. From this to this, yeah, it's just. But you're moving.

Masati 23:51
But you're moving. So you become conscious on literally how you're creating, you're rendering yourself each moment of time.

Alex Ferrari 23:59
Interesting.

Masati 23:59
And and you're not in most people, most spiritual events, most motivational events. It's like in the future I will be this, but it doesn't work that way because you're creating yourself broken here today. So it's like as you observe what's broken, whether it's your belief system, your logics, you know, your health or whatever, you change a little bit each moment. I mean, 24 frames per second. Obviously, you're you're creating yourself a lot faster than that. You can have massive transformations in like a week or a month, or even in like in a 15-minute session with me. You can literally like shift like that, and that's what we do.

Alex Ferrari 24:36
Yeah, and that and that's that's what we are doing on a subconscious level. Either way, yeah, we're on depending on the program. Depending on the programming,

Masati 24:46
Yeah, most people do it at a automatic level where they're just going, "I'll have what my mom and dad had, you know, and they just render it there, you know. But now it's like, wait a second, mom and dad had it this way. I want it differently, and this is. Where people like change how they age.

Alex Ferrari 25:02
Oh, so hold on a second. This is this is interesting. So, as we're walking through life,

Masati 25:07
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 25:09
We're born. We come in. I don't. I I always say there is some programming at the factory, which is karma and other things, and and past life and all that stuff. Yeah. So when we come in, we have a bit of programming in us.

Masati 25:20
Yeah, there's four ingredients to that.

Alex Ferrari 25:22
I love to hear those in a second. But then, then we're thrown in with conditioning and what my parents did, and and then what our community did, and maybe what the religion did, and all of a sudden you're programmed, and then now you are dealing with all of this stuff that you agreed to as a soul to walk in because you wanted this path, or no? Yeah,

Masati 25:42
I don't know if it's agreement or you just weren't awakened enough, and you basically go well. The next version is it's automatic for you. If you're not awakened enough, you just basically

Alex Ferrari 25:55
No, no. I mean, when I say an agreement, I mean soul agreement prior to incarnation.

Masati 25:59
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 25:59
Yeah, like because if you're picking your parents, you're picking them for a reason. No?

Masati 26:05
A lot of that is just nobody really thinks about that. It's just people aren't really say that awakened because if you were awakened to choose something, you probably wouldn't recreate the same rendering as your parents. You probably.

Alex Ferrari 26:22
And when I say awaken, are we talking about the soul here or before?

Masati 26:26
Before.

Alex Ferrari 26:27
So if you're before, you're essentially awakened because you're a soul.

Masati 26:31
No.

Alex Ferrari 26:31
Tell me.

Masati 26:32
Yeah. So and that's and that's some of the misnomers because it's like, well, why are souls re-rendering themselves? And then we have ideas of like karma and so on, like that. It's basically that it goes back to people not dying properly. People die to a level, say you know they only go two levels up, and they're still burdened with say some patterns of their past, and then they re-render themselves in physical form. Well, they carry those patterns of the past, so they're not quite completely awakened, and this is where you're not really, say, completely awakened. Otherwise, you wouldn't recreate some of the problems that we recreate because it's not in nature, in biology, especially. You know, we always create a better version of ourselves, that makes sense for you. So, if you're an awakened soul, you naturally would create a better version of yourself. But most people aren't, say, that awakened as they come back into physical form.

Alex Ferrari 27:33
I understand what you're saying. Yeah. Did you say there was four things that you come in with? What are those?

Masati 27:37
Yes. So, your genetic patterns. Okay. Like, if you've gotten you know Aunt Betty's beautiful blue eyes, you not only got her beautiful blue eyes, but probably all the tragedy, all the heartbreak, all the you know the joy and experiences that those blue eyes were associated with.

Alex Ferrari 27:56
Interesting.

Masati 27:57
So it's not just your say the physicalness of say your gene structure, so your genetics, and there's a lot of studies on that. People who have gone through there's a study in Ireland, you know, five generations down, people were eliciting you know like big bloated bellies and so on. People of famine, and these people have never experienced famine, but then they realize it's like oh, five generations back there was famine.

Alex Ferrari 28:26
So, so it's a generational karma or generational trauma.

Masati 28:30
Yeah. So you have genetic patterning. You have generational patterning, like the time frame that you were born in.

Alex Ferrari 28:36
Sure.

Masati 28:36
Right. Carries that. So societal patterning, which is like cultural patterning, religions, you know, sex, you know, what what women have gone through, what men have gone through, and then you have your lifetime patterns and previous lifetimes. So those four ingredients, sure, say, and different mixtures of it create you, and then from there, you you add your own experiences, and then you pass that on to your kids, and that's how we just keep regenerating. But nobody ever, and when you're a kid, you know you're supposed to. Your parents are supposed to be awakened enough, and this is how we don't. Again, we we don't say become awakened souls to recreate. When you're a kid, your parents are supposed to go. We we messed up here. You shouldn't do that. Do it this way, you know. And this is why your kids go. Why is this happening? Why is this? Because they're awakening. They're trying to. They're going. They're seeing that actual, you know, the highest potential of who they are when they're a kid. Like I talked about, the highest potential is always running, and they're going. Well, why am I running this pattern, Mom, Dad? Why am I running this pattern? And and parents go, well, just because. And then they go, well, I'll drop the my potential here. I'll I'll just conform. I'll conform. Conform. Yeah, exactly.

Alex Ferrari 29:53
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Masati 30:14
So, so, and then you add your mixture, like I said, and then you have kids, and then it just it cycles over and over.

Alex Ferrari 30:21
It's interesting that when souls like that, because there's souls who, you know, the majority of when we come in a society, humanity wants you to conform to a whatever is happening of that time. So if you were born in the 1800s, it would have been something. If you were born in the Roman times, it would have been something, and so on. So every moment of every time throughout history, whatever soul is being born into the world is conforming to whatever that it's the the the greater community is asking it to conform. Then yes,

Masati 30:54
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 30:55
General as a general programming idea. It's true.

Masati 30:57
Yeah. No, I totally agree with what you say.

Alex Ferrari 31:00
So then, there's the occasional souls who come in and go, "Yeah, that's not going to work for me.

Masati 31:08
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 31:09
And that's those are the ones who push us all forward on the spiritual standpoint. So all these souls here who are avatars, they pushed us forward spiritually. Then there is writers. Then there are artists. Then there are scientists. They're like, you know, nope, I'm not listening to what you're talking about. We're gonna create quantum physics because that makes more sense. Oh, we're gonna, you know, this or that equals m c squared, and they go against the grain, which is arguably one of the toughest paths to walk as a soul.

Masati 31:40
Yeah, that'd be me.

Alex Ferrari 31:41
You know what I mean, And we and and it doesn't all have to be Jesus. It could be just within the family,

Masati 31:47
Right!

Alex Ferrari 31:48
Or within your community, or within your industry, to do it. But those are the most interesting souls to watch.

Masati 31:56
Yeah, and well, just to clarify, we all have an opportunity to awaken, like I said, as a child. But those souls that you're talking about that make the change makers, they basically go. I'm sticking to my original path. I don't care what my parents, what society, whatever. I know this path is open. I'm sticking to this one.

Alex Ferrari 32:17
So are they just more awakened a bit more, or are they

Masati 32:21
Stubborn. Well, there's that. Yeah. If you've noticed, a lot of people who say made the changes, they're not stubborn, but they're very focused because they see.

Alex Ferrari 32:25
You could say stubborn. Stubborn. I mean, stubborn.

Masati 32:33
Stubborn, which is a good thing.

Alex Ferrari 32:38
Yeah, stubborn in the nicest way of that word.

Masati 32:40
Yeah, I'm. I'm sticking to my highest, purest possible self,

Alex Ferrari 32:44
Regardless of what you're telling,

Masati 32:45
Regardless of what society's telling.

Alex Ferrari 32:46
It's it's it's you walking your own path, and I think that's what's happening now more than ever. Yes, because you normally, as when you come in, you give so many people are run by fear.

Masati 32:57
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 32:58
And because they're run by fear, a lot of them give their power away to governments, to religion, to community, to their family, to other things, because it's like you know what-it's easier for me not to rock the

Masati 33:10
Exactly. Because because you're a kid, you go, you know, you don't as an adult too. Well, you learn from a kid. You know, you're like 1012, years old. I'm going to get beat up by my parents, so I better adapt, and then you get accepted by being adaptive, and then

Alex Ferrari 33:26
That's a lesson you learned.

Masati 33:28
And it's like, oh, that's how I survive here, and then you know, and then society and media, the government, and all that. It's like you better adapt, right? You better be part of the norm, and then you lose your identity, and then that's where the problem happens. One thing I want to talk about is generational patterns. Yes, you know, because we get we get conformed, and in natural intelligence or the way nature knows it, we conform because it's the most efficient way. You know, because it's at its highest, say the first level principle in nature, in humanity though the generational say pattern is like we conform because it's easier to control. That's the problem, you know. So we're naturally born. For example, generational say generational situations. If a baby, if you could say clone a baby from say the 1900s that didn't know about computers, cloned them, and you gave them an iPad, they wouldn't know what to do with that iPad. But you give a baby that's born today, give them an iPad, and they intuitively know what's happening.

Alex Ferrari 34:43
Why?

Masati 34:45
Because it's built into that generational, say, ingredient.

Alex Ferrari 34:48
Because they're at that place. So, in other words, if we go back to Rome and show them an i a baby an iPad, the baby wouldn't have any idea. They wouldn't have an. But if you give an iPad to a baby today, because it's been around.

Masati 34:59
Because it's learned from the genetic patterning, right? Of society is like, oh, they'll they'll know what to do with that iPad. It's not just I don't know a rectangular thing that they play with. They would literally start to say play around with it,

Alex Ferrari 35:14
And it was

Masati 35:14
And it's proven.

Alex Ferrari 35:15
Yeah,

Masati 35:16
Yeah. So so that in nature, it's beneficial for us because it optimizes us

Alex Ferrari 35:22
To keep moving,

Masati 35:23
To keep moving forward, to survive, right? But then humans again, they circumvent it and they distort it, and then they apply their, you know, human say generational patterns, and then that's where the problem occurs.

Alex Ferrari 35:40
So when you say human generational patterns, you mean,

Masati 35:44
You know, like Generation X, the lost souls, the baby boomers. I am a Gen Xer. You know what I mean? They're kind of Generation X. Their parents had to work all the time, so they had to support themselves.

Alex Ferrari 36:02
Yeah, we're the last. We're the last generation,

Masati 36:05
You know,

Alex Ferrari 36:05
Before technology. Yeah, the internet.

Masati 36:08
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 36:08
And before social media. But we also know what it was like prior. Exactly. But we were young enough to incorporate because when the internet kicked, I was in college. Yeah, and I learned all the technology and everything, but I remember rotary phones. Yeah, I remember before social media, all that stuff. So we're that bridge generation. We're a really interesting generation. As a you know, it's like we're weird, and then and then we have to be self reliant. We're the first generation, exactly. We were the first generation, basically just like leave the house. I don't care how you eat. We have no idea where you are. You better be home by lights out

Masati 36:44
Exactly.

Alex Ferrari 36:45
And that's that's a real thing. Stranger Things, other than the monsters, was pretty accurate.

Masati 36:50
So we had to adapt to that. And that's not say optimal for us. No, no. So so that's what we've learned as generations. But as a say species, there's an optimal version of say that generation that we could operate on,

Alex Ferrari 37:08
And that's the the parallel.

Masati 37:09
That's the parallel.

Alex Ferrari 37:11
Is there so there's one individual? Is there a parallel for humanity in general?

Masati 37:15
Oh, absolutely. Every it's it's a mastermind. You know whether you know you're an individual, or you're a family. A family has a personality, right? A family group has a personality.

Alex Ferrari 37:27
Absolutely,

Masati 37:27
A city has a personality, like Austin here. Austin has a personality. Countries, the U.S. has a personality. So yes, all those have personalities where you can edit and change.

Alex Ferrari 37:38
And so then, on even on a on a country level, you know, there is repeating patterns.

Masati 37:43
There's repeating patterns. So you become an observer of patterns. I love the way you said that.

Alex Ferrari 37:48
Yeah, because it's a because you could see it in in the U.S. You could also see it in Europe in different countries. If you study these kind of things and you look at them, yeah, you can just look just throughout history what let's say Great Britain did

Masati 38:00
Right,

Alex Ferrari 38:01
Or what France did, or what Spain did,

Masati 38:03
Right!

Alex Ferrari 38:03
And you could see the patterning of what happened, but then the U.S. was this crazy experiment that we started 250 years ago.

Masati 38:10
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 38:11
And and it, but it has its own.

Masati 38:14
No, it has its own pattern,

Alex Ferrari 38:15
And it's cyclical. I've noticed that too. It's like

Alex Ferrari 38:19
We're going back now. I'm old enough to. I'm old enough, and you're old enough to see what it was.

Masati 38:25
Exactly. You'll see the cycles, and I like what you said about patterns. AI. The reason why AI is so intelligent is that if you handed like a paragraph of what you wrote yourself to AI, it'll give you, it'll hand back to you who you are. Very, very, very well defined. What do you mean? Like it'll, it'll tell you about your personality based on my writing. Based on you, you write any paragraph and you hand it into like Claude or you know ChatGPT or something, and it's like, hey, tell me about me. And it wouldn't know you, but it doesn't know the meanings of the word that you wrote. It, but how you say use the words, the algorithms on the words. That's how AI is so say intelligent. So what we teach is, oh, let's bypass the emotions, let's bypass your beliefs, let's bypass your genetics and start to become observers on, say, how you are putting your life together. You know, moment by moment, and then you'll get a more accurate picture on how and why you're creating your life, and that that's where you can say change your algorithm,

Alex Ferrari 39:37
Recode or rewrite the code,

Masati 39:39
Rewrite the code once because once you realize, oh, whoa, that's how you know that's the way I'm acting. It's like then the truth comes out, and then you change almost immediately.

Alex Ferrari 39:50
So it's it's it seems to me that okay. So let's say a a self realized master who's alive, let's say right now. Yes, there are men. Around the world, who are self-realized masters? It sounds like what you're talking about is it's a repackaging or rewording of a lot of the ancient ideas of code and Maya and differently. And I'm trying to say that in a derogatory way, but I'm seeing I'm seeing the pattern,

Masati 40:19
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 40:19
Because of all of the people I speak to, yeah, on a daily basis, absolutely, and I have a, I touch all of it. I see patterns in, and and I see like, oh, this is just dressed up as this. Is this the same things like this? And oh, they're just taking from each other, and like it's it's all the same. Your your way of approaching it is unique. I haven't come across this, but I can see the Vedic,

Masati 40:44
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 40:44
The the Vedas in there a little bit. I can see the the Bhagavat Gita in there. I can see Buddha is Buddhism in the elements of what you're talking about, but you're rewording it or repackaging it in a in a language that is of today, which is code and writing in a sense. At least that's my perspective. Tell me,

Masati 41:02
Repackaging it,

Alex Ferrari 41:03
And that again, not the word.

Masati 41:05
No, no, no. But here's the difference. Like, so what? What they're teaching, for example, is they're seeing it from the physical life and looking into it from

Alex Ferrari 41:20
In the spiritual, into the spiritual,

Masati 41:22
Yeah, right. So I'm seeing it from the spiritual

Alex Ferrari 41:25
Going back,

Masati 41:26
Going back.

Alex Ferrari 41:26
That's the that's the difference. That's the difference. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Agreed, agreed.

Masati 41:30
So so we might be saying the same thing. Just it might sound similar, but if you flip it around and you see it from that version, that's what we teach. It's like okay, it's like all the stuff that we learn, the mysticism and all that. I'm not saying there it's wrong. I'm not saying hey, this is a new version of it. I'm just saying let's look at it from a higher perspective, up river down.

Alex Ferrari 41:53
Right. It seems it sounds like what you're absolutely right. So a lot of the the masters that I'm speaking of, yes, came from the physical, and they went out to the spiritual, and they talk about it, like how to be enlightened, how to become self-realized, how to awaken. Exactly. But because of your near-death experiences and what happened in your near-death experiences, you went over here, saw how the game is played, and now, like, let me go back and exactly was it cross, not cross engineer, back engineer, or you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, reverse reverse engineer. You're reverse engineering the code in Maya and the Matrix.

Masati 42:31
It's easier that way. It's much easier because well,

Alex Ferrari 42:34
You have to die three times. So there's that.

Masati 42:36
Well, for me, yes, I mean other people don't. Yes, exactly. But that's the key. Is like most people go well. I'm this broken person, and then I want to become enlightened. What we teach is like, wait a second. You have to remember that you were enlightened, and then you came into this reality. So it gives you mastery. It gives you it gives you a command of who you are and how you're rendering yourself, which is very very different. I mean, it's it might sound the same. It might look the same, but it's very, very different when you come from, say, a mastery level. When you come from upriver, so we change things at you know at the beginning. I call it the source code or the inception frequency. Most people change it, say downriver. So they've already created the waves in space and time. We're saying is like, wait a second. Before you create the wave, let's see what kind of wave that you're creating or what kind of experience that you're creating. That's the difference, which is a huge difference, by the way.

Alex Ferrari 43:31
Oh, it's a huge difference. No, no, I. That's why I like your approach to it because it's just coming at it from a completely different angle.

Masati 43:38
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 43:38
We're all getting, we're all going, trying to figure this out, man. Absolutely, they're all just trying to figure this insanity out.

Masati 43:44
Yes, yeah, and and this way we start to say it's not just random anymore, and that's why I was talking to you about earlier. You know, once you figure things out, you start to see the patterns again, the algorithms, and you go, oh, I can duplicate those patterns, and that's what we do. Otherwise, you know, all the mysticism, the spiritual movements-again, they're totally fine. They're they're very fantastic, but they're hit and miss because we don't understand the underlying, say, concept of why we're doing the thing that we're doing.

Alex Ferrari 44:17
It's a just a different. It's just a different way of looking at it, and and also from what I understand, very different way, very different way. But the other thing that's interesting is that every soul's journey is different, and this is something I've discovered. Obviously, that's a that's a basic statement, but not everything will align with everybody. So, in other words, this might align with a large group of people, but then another path might, another teacher, another way might align with that person, and so on.

Masati 44:49
I'm not teaching a modality,

Alex Ferrari 44:51
Correct!

Masati 44:52
Yeah, I'm just, and again, I accelerate any modality that anybody uses

Alex Ferrari 44:58
Because you're you're you're the underlying code of it all.

Masati 45:00
I'm the yeah. I teach. I'm like I'm like the person that like improves the atom. So what are the ones you do with that atom? Whether you want to make a heart cell out of it or I don't know plutonium out of it, it doesn't matter to me. But I'm improving the atom. Does that make sense?

Alex Ferrari 45:19
It it does. Yeah, I understand what you mean. So it's kind of like you-you are-you understand the ones and the zeros. Yes. You could talk whatever language coding language you like. Yes. You could do C plus plus. You can do Python. Whatever you want. But I. But I understand the ones and the zeros.

Masati 45:33
Exactly.

Alex Ferrari 45:33
How you put them together,

Masati 45:35
It doesn't matter.

Alex Ferrari 45:36
Doesn't matter. But without understanding the ones and zeros, you can't do anything.

Masati 45:39
Exactly. So once you understand how and why you're doing the teachings that you learned from 1000 years ago, why they actually did that,

Alex Ferrari 45:49
And why they worked,

Masati 45:50
And why they worked back then, and why they don't work as well today,

Alex Ferrari 45:54
Depending on the person, obviously,

Masati 45:55
Depending on the person. So, so what's the key? Is it is it you know like ah, gosh, you know, you know, people do the movements, they do the form, but you have to access, say, the function on, and the function is like, why are we doing the the ceremonies that people do? Nobody does that. People just do the ceremonies. They don't ask why. Right. You know what I mean, and then you get the to the function. It's like, oh, that's why they did the ceremonies, and then once you understand the function, you know the form becomes more visible for you.

Alex Ferrari 46:32
Oh, it becomes much more potent.

Masati 46:33
Yeah, and then once you get into that, this is like the mastery level. Then you go, oh wait, what's the intelligence that accessed the knowledge to create the function or the blueprint to create the form.

Alex Ferrari 46:47
So yeah. So in other words, it's like you can go to yoga class and you could do downward dog.

Masati 46:53
Exactly.

Alex Ferrari 46:53
But if you don't understand what's happening in downward dog, other than just a physical standpoint,

Masati 46:59
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 47:00
Then you because then once you understand why that movement is put in this system, then you have a much deeper understanding and actually can bring your practice into or your experience of that in a much deeper level. It's like either I can eat the meal, but I want to know why um why these ingredients were put together for my meal, and then what? Not only what the ingredients are like. Well, what's the nutritional value? What does it do into my body?

Masati 47:28
Exactly. And this is where science. I mean, you know, you touched on a couple spots. I mean, science can make you know make an apple look like an apple and everything, but there's no nutrition in it. It's just sugar water.

Alex Ferrari 47:42
Yeah, we've

Masati 47:43
But nature, right? They just duplicated the form.

Alex Ferrari 47:47
But that's all they did. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Masati 47:49
And it's like, well, why is it genetically modified? Because it doesn't give you the intelligence or the deeper nutrition, the frequency nutrition behind the apple or behind, you know. Nowadays, it's fake meat and stuff. Or even like success. People just copy the form.

Alex Ferrari 48:09
They didn't understand it. Yeah,

Masati 48:10
They don't understand. Say what wealth actually is, and that's why they've got billions of dollars. And they come to me and they go, Moss, why do I feel so empty? Because it's genetically modified success.

Alex Ferrari 48:21
Well, it's kind of like it's like I'm watching the World Cup stuff right now.

Masati 48:25
I love it.

Alex Ferrari 48:25
I love it too. Now I'm become a freaking soccer fan for all of us. Excuse me, football football fan. And but then I've been I've been going down rabbit holes with like Messi.

Masati 48:36
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 48:36
You know who's arguably one of the greatest players. I don't want to get into it if you don't agree, but regardless, you you he's he's a pretty amazing player, but you but a lot of people will I'm using as an example a lot of people will like you can run the same way and try to copy his form, but you don't understand why he did what he did and why he's analyzing the field and how he did that. You could try to copy it. Yes, and that's what the GMOs and that kind of stuff is doing.

Masati 49:05
So with like Messi, I mean, I love his, I love the way he plays.

Alex Ferrari 49:10
Yeah,

Masati 49:10
But people like that, and this is we we help a lot of people, you know, that have amazing talent, but those talents really distort them. So like Messi, he he Messi

Alex Ferrari 49:25
Ronaldo

Masati 49:26
Ronaldo, Senna, you know the race car driver. A lot of the athletes, they get into an altered state of themselves. They're not them, so to speak. Oh yeah, they're somebody's channeling.

Alex Ferrari 49:38
Yeah, channeling something

Masati 49:39
Exactly. Yeah, and then what happens? Like so, Messi he comes in and he he knows the process, and I can read anybody, you know, because after the second near death, I have the abilities to read. But so Messi, he gets into an altered state, and he's and that's what people call in the zone. So basically, the mechanics on how to get people. In his own, but then when he's not playing football, he's let's just say fucked up. It distorts him because he goes into say altered states. He's this version, but this version is only good at playing football. This version is a dad. This version is whatever. This and and it's like they can't comprehend it because the nervous system. So what I do with people like that is like, wait a second, okay, let's reference when you're in when you're on the field, you know, you can use this version of yourself. When you're off the field, you can use this version, and he becomes more a palatable person to be with, because people like that-they're hard to be around.

Alex Ferrari 50:45
Oh, I know.

Masati 50:46
Yep. Oh, I know. I work with a lot of football players' wives because it's like Moss. My husband's a football player in the bedroom with my kids, with me. That's all they know because their their idea of self is, hey, I'm a great football player.

Alex Ferrari 51:01
They don't, they don't. Yeah, it's kind of like I.

Masati 51:04
And that's all they know.

Alex Ferrari 51:06
Yeah, it's it's it happened like with Michael Phelps after after his run, he he's been fighting depression and he's doing well, but he didn't understand. He was so Michael Phelps as the swimmer, as a champion, that he couldn't figure out anything else. Exactly. There's a director named Ridley Scott, who I love, who did a bunch of amazing historic, amazing films.

Masati 51:36
Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 51:36
I was interviewing one of his collaborators, and I found out that really doesn't stop. He's like in his 70s.

Masati 51:44
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 51:44
He cannot not be making a movie, so he's in a constant state of making movies for I don't know 4550 years at this point. He's been from commercials, so literally he like and she's like, well, when he's not working, he's down in his property painting, because that's all he knows how to do. But within weeks, he has to be on another movie,

Masati 52:08
Exactly

Alex Ferrari 52:08
To function. To function,

Masati 52:10
Or you have to make the next million, or the next million. Oh yeah, or the next.

Alex Ferrari 52:15
He's not even talking about the billionaire. The billionaire. Yeah.

Masati 52:17
Or you know, I have to you know conquer another woman, or this thing, or this thing,

Alex Ferrari 52:22
Because they have no sense of they have no sense of self. They have no sense of true self.

Masati 52:25
Exactly, that's genetically modified. They just took the form, right? They just took the form, but not the reason why.

Alex Ferrari 52:33
And it's very dangerous because even I, when I was growing up, when I was a young man, I identified myself as a film director, and when my film directing world was not going well, my world was horrible. When my world was going well, it was great, of course. But I finally was able to pull away from that programming and go, no, no, no, no. I'm not. I'm Alex.

Masati 52:53
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 52:53
That's something I do. Yes, and I also could do this, and I could also do this. So I become. I try to become more well-rounded and understand me.

Masati 53:02
You start to become. Oh, this is my version of being Alex, being a film director, right? Versus a separation, and this is where a lot of women have issues. You know, where they separate themselves, and this is where they sacrifice their life for their husband, for their kids, for their kids, for their career because now there's four versions of them, like oh I'm a wife now, oh I better play that wife. So this version over here, the real version, the you know the the the life force, you know, just like it's like well what am I learning here? Nothing. They're not learning anything. They're not experiencing anything because you separated your identities from them. So in this case, you know you want to understand that you are of this brilliant being, having an experience of being a woman, being say a wife,

Alex Ferrari 53:55
And where and being a wife in this country, in this time, in this this community, this religion. So

Masati 54:01
And there's no separation or there's no fragmentation because in today's world you see people they're fragmented.

Alex Ferrari 54:08
What do you mean by fragmented?

Masati 54:09
Fragmented

Alex Ferrari 54:10
Because they have too many roles they're playing?

Masati 54:13
Yes, they have too many versions of themselves rendering themselves in different realities. So, for example, if you're say the way, and we'll use the wife example or a partner example, what they do is like, oh, which dimension of space and time is say Alex a husband? There's a version out there for you that where you're a husband, and then you go, oh, I'm over here, but then you lose your dimension of where you actually are. And then Alex is a film producer or runs Next Level Soul. Oh, that version is here. So this version doesn't talk to this version, and vice versa. So how many versions do people have? So what we teach is like, wait a second, let's expand into the real Alex, the life force Alex, the soul Alex, expanding into, say, that experience of being, you know, a man, and then being a film producer or being a father. Does that make sense? So that way you don't get fractals. You don't get because because because when you start to fractal yourself, oh, I have to be a wife, or I have, and you see women do that, or I see a lot of people do that. Oh, I'm a CEO now. I better do X, Y, and Z. It's like putting on costumes. You know what I mean. You're performing. You're not living. You're performing. Oh, I got to be a CEO. Oh, in this case, I got to do this, this, and this.

Alex Ferrari 55:50
And then the then me being a CEO versus somebody else being a CEO is based on programming and what they believe a CEO should be.

Masati 55:57
Exactly.

Alex Ferrari 55:58
So it could be two very different approaches. Exactly. So he might have been that that the guy could have been had bosses were like bad, just horrible to him. Like, well, I guess he's successful. That that must be what I need to be.

Masati 56:11
Exactly. And then it's like, oh, I'm gonna go home. Oh, oh, I got to put on a role of being a husband.

Alex Ferrari 56:18
And sometimes you're so.

Masati 56:19
And then it's like, well, and then the wife goes, "Who is that?

Alex Ferrari 56:24
And that's how.

Masati 56:25
Who am I sleeping with? You know what I mean? Because it's like people start to see that you know these people are fractaled. They're fractured, and this is where burnout happens. This is where making money or becoming successful is like. What the hell are we doing this?

Alex Ferrari 56:39
So then, let me ask you this: Then, if if because I understand everything you're saying, and that there are different roles we play. There's no question. You know, I'm a father. I'm a podcaster. I'm a CEO. I'm a filmmaker. I'm a husband. All I'm every I'm of a son. All of this. So and they all have different roles. So we all of us have those. Yes. Period. But what I'm, what I found, at least in my life, is that first and foremost, I've learned in my world, I'm Alex. Yes, Alex, the like, like I'm Alex. That's who I am. Yeah. All of these are costumes that I put on when I need to, but I put them on gently now, where before I would just exclusively have one and be like, oh, I can't take this one off as much. It was hard to yeah, it was hard to shift roles. Yeah, but now I shift them on a dime when needed, like because when you have kids, you realize that really quickly, you know. And then when you have a business, and then when you have family, and you, so your shift. But I shift a lot easier than I used to before. It was very. I was like, I have this this code. I can't take it off right now.

Masati 57:48
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 57:48
And that's where the problem is. Am I making? Does that make sense?

Masati 57:50
That's where the problem is. And so let's accelerate that. Yeah. If you don't mind, please. Do you mind if we do that?

Alex Ferrari 57:55
Yeah. Let's do it. Let's do it.

Masati 57:56
Okay.

Alex Ferrari 57:57
I'm all in.

Masati 57:57
So, all right. So close your eyes. Take a breath in, and this is a recording, but the audience will probably feel this as well because it's the frequencies that I generate is beyond time and space. So, so just imagine all the different roles that you play. Okay, you're point A. Okay, there's point B. There's point C. You know, film director, a father. You know, a brother, whoever. How many different roles do you see, or how many different points do you see out there?

Alex Ferrari 58:27
Major points or minor points?

Masati 58:29
All points.

Alex Ferrari 58:31
I mean, I mean, I'll go with the major ones because the minor ones, I can't, I can't wrap my head around the minor ones. Yeah, but I don't know maybe 10.

Masati 58:42
Okay,

Alex Ferrari 58:42
I'll just I just pull that number out, but it's like generally around 10, maybe.

Masati 58:45
And by the way, these visuals are different because they're they're rendered not from your hallucination of the brain; it's from your higher self. So that that's what I'm working on. If you don't mind, breathe in again, and again, if you're the audience, just you know go along with me and and do it. Yeah, 1234, Okay, so 10. So there are 10 different points. So you're 11. So Alex, notice that you are say where you are. Just notice where you are, and then what you do is like, oh, I got to be you know point 10, and then you step out of say your original point, the the optimal moment of space and time, the present moment, to render yourself as say personality 10. And then what you do when you're done, like you said, you take off. So basically, you go, oh, I have to jump back to say point zero because that's where my original self is. So here's the problem: most people they go into a role and then they forget,

Alex Ferrari 59:53
Right!

Masati 59:54
Just like a parking lot. You know, you go into a major mall, you go shopping, and you go. Where the hell did I park my car? And then you search for hours or decades ago. Who the hell am I?

Alex Ferrari 1:00:10
Can I say something? Can I say something real quick? Are we still in a session? We're still in. Okay, do it. So I gotta say something. Go ahead.

Masati 1:00:18
Take a breath in. All right. Okay. So what we teach here? Breathe in again. Okay, this is really cool, Alex. If you just do this, and I'll and I'll do this with you. I'll just reprogram you if you don't mind. Is that okay? Please. All right. So, and you'll feel the difference like right away. It's it's so cool. All right. So instead of going from point A to point B, let's say. So imagine that you're a sphere. Okay. Imagine you're a sphere. You're inside the sphere. Your possibilities expand to point B. You don't move anywhere. You expand in point B. Look at all the other points that you're touching as you expand. All the possibilities that you're learning from, and then when you're done being a father, a film director, whatever it is, you expand back into Alex. You contract back into Alex. Alex didn't move. Alex becomes more precise in time and space. Alex understands himself more. So that experience of being a father, being a film director, it didn't it didn't take away your life force. It actually enhanced it because now you're more purified on who Alex is. So the soul grows with you. It's not left behind because that's what most people do. They leave their soul or their spirit. I call it their timeless self behind. So just one more thing. Take a breath in. Just give me a second. I'm just working on the audience as well. One. Okay, just one. Your grandfather comes in, by the way.

Alex Ferrari 1:01:55
He's he's been around lately.

Masati 1:01:57
Okay, so it's crazy how you know just these sessions work. Anyway, can we release your grandfather while we're here?

Alex Ferrari 1:02:05
Sure.

Masati 1:02:07
Yeah, he's a funny guy. He's he's got he's got like eyes. He's he had

Alex Ferrari 1:02:15
Oh yeah, he had beautiful eyes

Masati 1:02:15
The eyes, the beautiful eyes. It's like you look at him. It's like whoa, you know, such a kind man. Yeah, he's so he's just he's just telling me all this because so we can confirm that it's him, right? Again, he's got something with his eyes. So okay, so let's help him cross over while while we're here anyway. So let's move him where he needs to be at a higher level, and then let's have them send you say a confirmation that we talked. He's at a higher level, if that if that's okay for you. So that way, because because you're more logical, you want say proof, which is really good. You want to ask, you know, for like proof, not in on I don't believe it, but it's like, how did that work? Because it'll give you more abilities if that's okay. Something about a blue something when you're a kid. Something about a something blue. Somebody will give you, I don't know, like a blue car, blue you know toy car, blue whatever, something like to that effect, or you'll find it somewhere. So that's actually from your grandfather going, "Hey, Alex, I'm I'm in a better place. Yeah, I'm in a better place. You know, just basically confirming what we talked about. Okay, is that okay for you?

Alex Ferrari 1:03:33
So looking, so look for or it'll.

Masati 1:03:36
Yeah, you don't even have to look as soon as like like you'll feel your grandfather's essence.

Alex Ferrari 1:03:40
Okay,

Masati 1:03:41
There we go. So, so a couple things that we did: one, helped your grandfather; two, helped you understand what you inherited from your grandfather. By the way, which is insight, deep insight, and deep kindness. By the way, and then also helping you expand into your possibilities, rather than say separating yourself. There we go. How's that? All right.

Alex Ferrari 1:04:10
Open my eyes.

Masati 1:04:11
Yep, you can open your eyes. How are you feeling?

Alex Ferrari 1:04:14
Feel good. Feel good. What What is interesting is when I went when I closed my eyes. I this is what I saw.

Masati 1:04:22
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:04:23
I saw myself in kind of like the lead position.

Masati 1:04:27
Yep,

Alex Ferrari 1:04:28
And then I saw multiple versions of me, almost in an ethereal way.

Masati 1:04:34
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 1:04:35
Is what I saw. It started off as scenes.

Masati 1:04:39
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 1:04:39
And then it turned into individuals, so like me wearing a different suit, if you will.

Masati 1:04:43
Exactly,

Alex Ferrari 1:04:44
That's what I saw in my mind. And then I can see my oh, I can jump in here, or I can jump in there, and I can jump. It was very, very effortless.

Masati 1:04:54
Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:04:54
When you told me to expand, I pulled back, and then I saw 1000s. Points that either have been or will be

Masati 1:05:04
Yes

Alex Ferrari 1:05:05
That I can I can jump in and out of from my experience. Then, when I wanted to open my eyes and ask you a question, the thing that popped into my head is like there are dormant roles that you forget about, that wake up every once in a while.

Masati 1:05:25
I love it.

Alex Ferrari 1:05:25
So is that so? At one point, let's say you played the piano, you played the guitar when you were a kid, and you loved it, but you put it away because your parents said, "Okay, you can't make a living as a guitar player, and you haven't touched it for 20 years. But all of a sudden, something wakes up in you and goes, you gotta pick up the guitar again. Yeah, and that's and like and that role steps in and goes, okay, I'm here, let's go. So for me,

Masati 1:05:49
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 1:05:49
And you know, and this gets a little personal, but I don't mind. I don't mind sharing this. You know, coming from the filmmaking world, I have never let go of it 100% but it definitely wasn't. It's not been as predominant in my life as Next Level Soul has.

Masati 1:06:07
Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:06:07
Now there are aspects of it that will cross over and productions and stuff like that.

Masati 1:06:13
Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:06:13
But the kid in the video store.

Masati 1:06:16
Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:06:17
Who fell in love with movies, who fell in love with storytelling.

Masati 1:06:20
Yes. I'm

Alex Ferrari 1:06:20
Gonna get teary. I'm gonna get teared up here. Stop it, Masati.

Masati 1:06:25
You're making me teary.

Alex Ferrari 1:06:26
Yeah, that kid has started to reawaken lately.

Masati 1:06:30
Exactly.

Alex Ferrari 1:06:31
I mean, I'm not kidding you. Like, yes, literally reawakened lately. Like to the point where I'm like, oh, I need I need to connect with him again.

Masati 1:06:38
Yes.

Alex Ferrari 1:06:39
He he needs to come back in to not only not because I'm going to go back into Hollywood or anything like that, but what he was that energy needs to be brought into what I'm doing now

Masati 1:06:52
Exactly,

Alex Ferrari 1:06:53
And now I need to put on that suit and this suit to do what I'm going to be doing moving forward, and that's very interesting. And I got excited when I went in, and I so I opened my eyes. I was like, "Wait, I gotta tell him this. But the dormant, the dormant ones, and sometimes, and correct me if I'm wrong, there's dormant things that happen that are within this life, but there's dormant ones that happen from other lives that show up all of a sudden. You're like, I didn't know I could do that. I didn't know I could write a book. I didn't know I can paint. I didn't know I could start a business. You're tapping into things from your other lifetimes as well in this this world. It's a pretty pretty fascinating massage. Pretty cool, isn't it? It's pretty. So what do you what do you say about everything I just experienced?

Masati 1:07:43
That is perfect. That is perf. That's what I wanted you to experience because that's what you do. See, because when you're just focused on one thing, like again being a father, that's the only thing that you start to render. But if you expand, just imagine instead of going from point one, you know, point A to point B, now you're you've got this whole sphere. So you went to Point B. You expanded to Point B. But look at all the other possibilities that become alive for you. Previous lifetimes, your parents' lifetime. That's why your grandfather came in. You've got a lot of your grandparents, your grandfather's say patterning. Oh, from what I'm seeing, so that's why his lifetime came through, and so you learn from his lifetime, so you don't make the same mistakes as he did, you know, and you take the benefits of what he learned.

Alex Ferrari 1:08:32
And it's funny too because I had a session the other day on the show. I think hasn't I don't know if it's been released yet or not, but with a medium, and he came in again. He's been coming in lately a lot.

Masati 1:08:43
Okay,

Alex Ferrari 1:08:43
And you know I don't go looking for them, but when he when there's a medium here and he's like, there's somebody who's just yelling at me. I need to talk to. He came in and he actually was learning from me from the other side because he saw that I had transcended a mistake that he made and his path, where he never and I'll share it is like he worked every day since he was seven from cutting sugar cane in the in Cuba in the fields with a third grade education and then just nonstop grind

Masati 1:09:20
Yeah

Alex Ferrari 1:09:21
Non stop grind

Masati 1:09:22
Yeah

Alex Ferrari 1:09:22
In two like two weeks before he died, he was still hustling. He was not because he was he needed money per se. It was just that was the programming. He had no idea how to break from that ever, ever. Like that was it. He he went on two vacations in his entire life and hated them. He wanted to get back to work because it could just couldn't.

Masati 1:09:41
Yeah, his identity.

Alex Ferrari 1:09:42
Yeah, it was his identity. He could not break free from being a businessman. Yes, and an entrepreneur and a grinder. Well, I brought that into my life where I was a grinder for a long time until, and I was warned about it. Like you are going to burn out. You are going to like, and I am like, no, I have to. And that was that was the energy I learned from him because he was a very predominant male figure in my life, one of the few, because I was surrounded by women constantly and still am. This is the most testosterone I've seen in a minute, so I appreciate it. Other than watching the World Cup, I appreciate it. But I finally figured out that I'm like, oh no, I don't have to do this. No, not the way he did it, and I transcended it. And she told me when he was in the room with, like, in the set in the in the play, she's like, I see tears coming down his eyes because he's so happy that that you're not making the same mistakes he is, and he's learning from you.

Masati 1:10:38
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 1:10:39
Does that make sense?

Masati 1:10:40
That totally does. So you probably won't see him hanging around anymore because he doesn't need to be. Other like

Alex Ferrari 1:10:50
He'll come whenever he

Masati 1:10:51
Mediums or whatever. They won't see him because he's in a higher space. Again, he doesn't need to be around you anymore because he's learned his say life lesson, so to speak. You've learned your, you didn't learn it at a mental level. Like what happened there was more of a say programming level, a genetic level code that say we switched in a very in I mean pretty quick. So you're not going to be like hustling like him, although you're still going to be working hard, but this is about a

Alex Ferrari 1:11:24
Different thing, man. It's it's a different thing because I know the difference.

Masati 1:11:27
It's a very different thing because you're not losing, you're not sacrificing again your health, life force, your health, everything. It's like I'm working because I'm understanding myself more, and this is where the brilliance of that young kid loving videos comes in, and you'll be that kid doing video editing or whatever that you do.

Alex Ferrari 1:11:49
Yeah, yeah, that that that that version of me. That

Masati 1:11:53
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:11:53
I I remember him very very well, and it's probably one of the happiest times in my life.

Masati 1:11:58
And that's where that version stopped growing.

Alex Ferrari 1:12:02
Oh no, he yeah he he no he played he played in the film business. He was very excited to watch, but it was different.

Masati 1:12:10
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:12:10
It's very different.

Masati 1:12:11
But most people, it's like you know the guitar thing or whatever. That version of you say stopped.

Alex Ferrari 1:12:17
I understand what you mean. Yeah.

Masati 1:12:18
So so now it's like regrowing. That version of you is going to grow with you now, so although you're not going to play the guitar, it'll feel like that part of you is still fulfilled.

Alex Ferrari 1:12:29
Let me ask you a question: When you have a a fully realized person, human being,

Masati 1:12:37
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 1:12:37
On that's in this incarnation and and On Earth, when they're fully realized, they're able to tap into all of their versions throughout not only this lifetime, but that one in a way that is almost insane. Does that make sense?

Masati 1:12:59
Totally.

Alex Ferrari 1:13:00
You know, like if it's like you know, like I'm assuming Christ, if we'll use him as an example, was able to not only tap into all the versions that he was in this lifetime, but all his other lifetimes, and then pull from that. So it's almost a version. And and I don't know if you know about quantum jumping. Does that have you heard that term?

Masati 1:13:17
Oh yeah, I can. Yeah, I do that for people.

Alex Ferrari 1:13:19
So so quantum jumping. Can you explain to people what quantum jumping is?

Masati 1:13:24
Well, my version of quantum jumping again might be a little different.

Alex Ferrari 1:13:28
You're a very different sir. Let's just let's baseline that, Masati.

Masati 1:13:32
So, so my version of quantum jumping is like there's a dimension of time and space. So most people change; they don't change their environment; they change their mental attitude toward their environment. So, in this dimension of time and space, for example, you are you're poor. You don't have enough money. No matter how much money you make, you'll always feel, say, incomplete. Correct. Not complete. Yeah. Okay. So, quantum jumping to me is like, wait a second. Let let's help you find the version of you that actually is wealthy and properly wealthy, and that's over here. So we quantum jump from this dimension. It's just literally a coordinate, kind of like Google Maps. You know, it's like this is where you are. This is what you're running at. You can't. So this this part of you, this environment dictates that you always feel, say, poor, incomplete, tattered, or shattered, whatever. This version of you here is a better version. So let's let's figure out the coordinates and then quantum jump you. And this is where people have. I'm not claiming I cure anybody, but this is where people have cured themselves of like cancers, like stage four tumors, whatever, like disappear because in this version

Alex Ferrari 1:14:46
Doesn't exist.

Masati 1:14:47
It doesn't exist, so that's quantum jumping to me. Now there's different quantum jumpings where you can go into like previous lifetimes, or or somebody else's lifetime,

Alex Ferrari 1:14:57
Or parallel lifetimes, yeah,

Masati 1:14:58
Or parallel lifetimes, yeah. So you can

Alex Ferrari 1:15:02
Like learn skills, bring skills back.

Masati 1:15:04
Yes, in the Buddhist Buddhist state level courses that I teach, which is really difficult for people because very intense. We you can go back into say a previous lifetime, or say go back into a master that you resonate with, and like literally start to download where they what they learned, or if you are say you're you're a great musician, you want to play the guitar and you want to play like Jimi Hendrix, for example. Okay, and then you go okay, where well, where did Jimi Hendrix? What say quantum dimension

Alex Ferrari 1:15:45
Did he pull that from?

Masati 1:15:46
Did he pull that from? Let's find that out, and then let's hook you onto that, and then you'll play your version or his talent without Jimi Hendrix in the way.

Alex Ferrari 1:15:58
See, it's fascinating because I never thought about this, but like you know, when when we have savants come into this world, you know, we'll call Mozart a savant, right? Yeah. They, you know, they have the ability to play music at a level that it's inconceivable to us. But the point is that when Mozart came in, the music that he was playing hadn't been around, and correct me if I'm wrong. Like that kind of classical music wasn't was done during the Renaissance. Yeah. So prior to the Renaissance, that didn't exist, and a lot of the instruments might have not existed. All that. So how did he come in? Where did that talent come from? Because it's not like, like right now. Like let's say I'm a I want to be a like even being a master storyteller. Let's say right. So let's say I was Charles Dickens in the last. Yeah, I'll just I wasn't, but let's just say I was Charles Dickens. Well, he's a he's obviously one of the greatest storytellers of all time. Absolutely. And then that that version of me it comes in as like I want to be a screenwriter in the 1920s when Hollywood's just starting, and then I do a lifetime there. Then I come back in the 80s and I'm like I want to do I want to be a film director. But that there's a progression of that souls grabbing those those talents and bringing them along. Yes, but someone like Mozart, there wasn't a lot of time to bring that stuff in, so the question is, where did he tap into, or where did that talent, or that information, or that ability come from? Is it parallel lives? Is it other people's lifetimes? Is it other lifetimes that we can't even comprehend? Maybe before recorded history. I don't know. I'm just asking. I'm asking really why. No, those are really interesting.

Masati 1:17:44
No, that's really a great question. So that kind of goes into like Nikola Tesla.

Alex Ferrari 1:17:49
Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

Masati 1:17:50
Whereas like, where did he get those inventions? Yeah. Yeah. 100 years ago. Or Da Vinci. Or Da Vinci. Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:17:55
Like he was he was talking about stuff that like no one had even thought about.

Masati 1:17:59
Exactly. Like where did that come from? So people like that. I don't know how they hone their abilities or how they're born with it. You know, or where they get it. Yeah, or where they get it. But basically, they like Nicola. I've studied him a lot. He basically goes into an altered state, an altered dimension. He did where that invention exists already, because it's already existing. If if it if it doesn't exist in the possibilities, you can't think about it here. You can't even create it here.

Alex Ferrari 1:18:29
And you also have to be at a consciousness level to even be able to bring it in. And humanity also has to be at a consciousness level to bring in something like that.

Masati 1:18:35
Exactly. So Nikola, he goes out there. He is conscious of say the reality that he is, you know, and then what happens is that oh, now he has enough say consciousness to bring back as like oh, so how do I create that here? Most people can't make that jump, but see the problem with like Nikola Tesla and Beethoven and all those great people is like every time they access that realm, they come back. They're off by just a bit in dimensions of space and time. So they so so the present moment has a coordinate. So every time Nikola Tesla went out, he came back and he was just a little off and a little off and a little off. So over the years, he became he had dementia. He had distortions. He couldn't. He couldn't say render. He forgot literally where he parked his body every time. So every time he was a little off and a little off.

Alex Ferrari 1:19:34
And one inch turns into a mile.

Masati 1:19:36
And one inch turns into a mile. And this is where all those brilliant savants. How he feels do. well here physically because of that. Say,

Alex Ferrari 1:19:46
Well, someone, someone contemporary like Steve Jobs.

Masati 1:19:50
Steve Jobs.

Alex Ferrari 1:19:51
So he was not Elon. They're not easy human beings to be around.

Masati 1:19:55
No,

Alex Ferrari 1:19:56
None none of them are

Masati 1:19:57
Because

Alex Ferrari 1:19:58
They're just working at a different.

Masati 1:20:00
They work at a different field. They're very brilliant. They they don't exist in this realm. Their consciousness. Their so if you if you're an energy source, okay. So 100 most people, you're not 100% but say 100% of you is like physically bound, and that's what most people live with. If you're like, say, enlightened or more awakened, you start to understand that there's a gradient. Yes, you're just not focusing. You're up here as well, so you render your energy from here down, which is more efficient versus from down here up. Okay, so people like Elon Musk, for example, he has like 1010, different say dimensions that he can access, and you can see him work. So, so what he does is like he leaves Elon here, he connects over there, and then he brings back an idea. But every time he does that, he doesn't know who Elon is, and then this is where he needs kids or new beings, so to speak. That's why he's got 14 kids, literally, because it's like, or a new girlfriend every time, because they're fresh, and anything fresh just like forces them in to be in his body and go. Oh, this is what it feels like.

Alex Ferrari 1:21:23
Interesting. So it's almost kind of like you're astral projecting yourself. I'm just using this. Oh, totally. And and you forget where you come. Where'd I leave? Where'd I leave my body? Yeah. Except we're back in the mall.

Masati 1:21:32
Exactly.

Alex Ferrari 1:21:33
We're back in the mall. Yeah.

Masati 1:21:34
And your body just goes, and your body starts to become a robot.

Alex Ferrari 1:21:38
So then, but then when you when you speak of masters like ascended masters who were walking masters, they understand where the body is at all times.

Masati 1:21:47
They expanded just like we did. Yeah, we expanded,

Alex Ferrari 1:21:52
But never losing sight of where I parked. Never losing sight.

Masati 1:21:55
And then when they contract, they become more pure vessels because when you contract, just like a sponge with dirty water, you know you dip that sponge into pure water, you know, and you squeeze it out in all the dirt. So when you contract, you eliminate the distortions that you shouldn't have in the first place.

Alex Ferrari 1:22:13
Interesting.

Masati 1:22:15
Yeah, it's an it's a beautiful expansion, and and in this case, you can live lifetimes worth of experiences in in a moment because you're you're experiencing all moments of self as a sphere, not just one point in time. So you're living all those lifetimes like you just did,

Alex Ferrari 1:22:37
Right! So then that's so strange because you didn't tell me any of that, and I just told you what I saw.

Masati 1:22:42
Yes.

Alex Ferrari 1:22:43
When I expand, I'm like, oh, I saw 1000s and 1000s of points. I didn't know what I was seeing, but I was seeing it.

Masati 1:22:48
That's the program. That's what I was helping you with.

Alex Ferrari 1:22:50
Yeah, I saw it. I was like, oh, I see 1000s of versions of myself that I can pop in and out of. And I don't know if there. And at that time when I was doing, I'm like, I don't know if that's all in this lifetime. But then something in me said no, no, no, no. That's

Masati 1:23:02
All possibility.

Alex Ferrari 1:23:03
All possibility versions of it. But so there was like 1000s of me's, yes, dressed in different suits, let's say, or different outfits as as a representation of those things.

Masati 1:23:11
And those are possibilities. They're not actual living. There's not another version of you out there experiencing something. Those are the possibilities that could be you that you haven't experienced, and their previous lifetimes or possibilities. Plus, if you expand far enough, it it includes not just your lifetime, but includes human humans that are humanity, because we're all at some level. We're all connected.

Alex Ferrari 1:23:41
We're all connected,

Masati 1:23:42
And that's where true connection. When we go, yeah, we're all one. So, but you have to be at a certain level to be all one. Most people go, oh, we're all one, but no, you're not. You're very, you're very separated.

Alex Ferrari 1:23:54
You're talking about it. Yeah, you don't understand it

Masati 1:23:56
Exactly. It kind of you have to elevate yourself.

Alex Ferrari 1:23:58
So, so these savants that we're talking about, like the Elons and the Stevens and the Teslas, these guys, these guys don't expand. They actually take off, go somewhere else,

Masati 1:24:11
Come back,

Alex Ferrari 1:24:11
And then come back. It's a one-way trip as opposed to expanding and going. No, no, no. Now I see all the roads, all the trains, where they're going. I can jump on that train, go, but I'm still watching everything. Go do what I need to do. Come back to the station, and then just walk right back to where I was because I knew where I parked.

Masati 1:24:29
Exactly. So Elon, like I said, he has 12. When he was a young kid, I think somebody died or something happened to him. Is he on the spectrum?

Alex Ferrari 1:24:36
He has to be on the spectrum. I mean, a version of it. A version.

Masati 1:24:40
He's probably on the very intelligent level.

Alex Ferrari 1:24:43
No, no, no, no, no question. But there's something. I mean, you could just

Masati 1:24:46
There's totally something off.

Alex Ferrari 1:24:47
There's something not the same.

Masati 1:24:49
You have to be because in order to disconnect the way he does, you'd have to be unless you do it properly.

Alex Ferrari 1:24:56
So, like, there's you know, working in the film industry for so long, I've met. I've interviewed and I've also worked with savants, like people who are very, very difficult to work with. But they're legendary.

Masati 1:25:08
Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:25:08
And I, and when you talk to them, you just go, "Oh, there, there's something. There's just something off in this. You know, not that they're being negative or positive. It's just off. Like there's, it's like the programming is. It's the cat in the matrix. It's Déjà vu.

Masati 1:25:25
Well, what you're sensing is their bodies sending out a signal, and then you're actually sensing, but you can't pick it up. I mean, I can, but most people, you know, well, if you're sensitive, you can pick it up, but you actually say where they're creating themselves here physically, and then you're also sensing where they are in space and time. So they're sending out two signals,

Alex Ferrari 1:25:49
And that's and that's what I'm picking up.

Masati 1:25:51
And that's what you're picking. It's like, why they are so off?

Alex Ferrari 1:25:54
There's something not right here. There's something not. So that's interesting. So would that make would that be something that when you meet somebody? So look, there's a. This could be multiple different ways. So like, I've met people who I go off and like, man, there's something off. And especially in this world where I'm interviewing very interesting human beings, you know, a lot of times when people submit themselves, I'll I'll look. I I always tell my my wife who's the the the gatekeeper.

Masati 1:26:21
Yes, she.

Alex Ferrari 1:26:22
I go. She's like, I think this is an interesting person, and I'll go. I need to see a video.

Masati 1:26:25
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:26:26
That's all. I'm like, I need to see them speaking. Give me 10 seconds.

Masati 1:26:29
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 1:26:30
I always. I didn't know why I was doing it.

Masati 1:26:31
Oh, that's why. Because

Alex Ferrari 1:26:33
I can sense on the video. I can sense it.

Masati 1:26:34
You. You not only you see. I mean, your abilities. You see deeper than, say, the physical representation. So, like for example, what I see in people, you're a you're like a radio tower, and you're just broadcasting everything about you, your life history and so on. And I see it at a visual level.

Alex Ferrari 1:26:56
That's what you do, right?

Masati 1:26:56
That's what I do. So that's very different than being psychic or channeler or anything like that. I'm just seeing the vibes, you know, the frequencies that you're sending out. So you have a little bit, a bit of that, where you see it's like, oh, where are they sending their signal from? And that's where you see when they're off. So if somebody had a multiple personality, like three, four personalities. Yeah, yeah. There was somebody that you saw that had like you probably didn't explain it this way, but it's like, why do they feel like there's four versions of them or something like that?

Alex Ferrari 1:27:33
A guest or something like that.

Masati 1:27:35
Yeah, a guest or something. Recently, I'm just seeing something, or maybe it'll show up for you. Do you want that ability? No. Do you want that ability to go? Oh, how many version? Which dimension are they creating themselves in, or how many dimensions are they creating? You have that ability. I can just

Alex Ferrari 1:27:52
Yeah

Masati 1:27:53
Hone it for you. Yeah, I would. I'm sure.

Alex Ferrari 1:27:55
Yeah, because it's already there.

Masati 1:27:57
It's already there.

Alex Ferrari 1:27:58
And I and I just I just I explained it as like I need it's a gut instinct. Yeah, it's and it's an energy thing. But and and people people always ask me like, oh, how many followers do I need to be on your show? I'm, are you kidding me? Like that's not what we do. Yeah, like it's if it's about what that's what the work is. So I go, let me see 10 seconds. I literally 10 seconds in, and I'll watch the video, and I'll go, I like their vibe.

Masati 1:28:20
That's just it. Are they congruent?

Alex Ferrari 1:28:23
There's something like

Masati 1:28:24
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:28:24
They're authentic. I feel them.

Masati 1:28:26
Yes

Alex Ferrari 1:28:26
Is it 100% Am I batting 1000? No, but I've gotten better over the years because I've just honed it a bit more. Yeah, but that's something I've always felt. And when I meet, because I meet so many people and I speak to so many different human beings, it's something that when I meet them, I'll go.

Masati 1:28:42
And there's people who have fantastic abilities, but then they're like way off, and they can't control their own lives.

Alex Ferrari 1:28:50
Oh, I've met many human. I work in Hollywood, so I've met many human beings.

Masati 1:28:53
Like, so you know, and then they're teaching people. That's scary. Oh no, and that's that's

Alex Ferrari 1:29:00
That's the scary stuff

Masati 1:29:02
What you filter out, which is really nice.

Alex Ferrari 1:29:04
I no no there's there's people that want to come on the show. I've said absolutely no, and they're huge. And I said no,

Masati 1:29:10
Yeah, because you can see literally it's like they're here.

Alex Ferrari 1:29:12
There's something going on. There's some place over here, and you want to hear something funny when I say something's going on. Um, and then like a year later, they're like, "Oh, they've just something like that. I was like, "Oh, okay, that's what I felt. I felt something was off. It's interest. But yes, I would love if you can open that up in me. I mean, I would love it.

Masati 1:29:33
I can do that now. Let's do it. Let's do it. I mean, we're doing it a bunch of times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So for you, you need to be centered yourself. Sometimes you get pulled into other people's vibes, so to speak. So let's center that for you, if that's okay. Take a breath in. Just notice your sternum bone, the bone that connects, you know, your ribs together. And again, if are you going to be. Is this just private, or are you going to give this to your audience as well?

Alex Ferrari 1:30:04
What do you mean?

Masati 1:30:06
Is the audience

Alex Ferrari 1:30:06
Is just going to see this? Yeah, yeah. I'll leave it in more than likely.

Masati 1:30:09
Okay.

Alex Ferrari 1:30:10
Yeah.

Masati 1:30:10
So yeah. So

Alex Ferrari 1:30:11
Unless it's something crazy.

Masati 1:30:12
No. No. I'll help the audience as well.

Alex Ferrari 1:30:15
Yes.

Masati 1:30:15
So that's okay. So anybody who wants to say sense, what Alex is sensing, or it's like, are they rendering themselves, say, congruently, basically? Okay, so just give me a second. Okay, all right. So for you, because I have to separate you and the audience because they're they're not here. All right, there we go. All right, so so notice this spot, the sternum bone, and notice just a point in that sternum bone. So whenever you're seeing somebody, pay attention to that point because I'll I'll help you program it. It's like a a button for you now. Okay, and again, the audience can do this as well. So whenever you touch that point or acknowledge that point, basically it'll center you to where you should be in present moment time. So, if you're feeling off a bit, and again, it goes beyond the looking at others. But if you're feeling off a bit, just notice that point, and it'll literally like pull you back in. If you're feeling like depressed or a little, you know, pulled away from your reality, just focus in on that point, and you'll see how you'll pull yourself back into one dimension of space and time, the present moment time. So just give me a second. It'll help a lot of people that watch your show, Buddy, okay. There. So notice how that pulled you together. That makes sense for you, just not in your head. Okay. So those are all say fragments or remnants that kind of float away. Just imagine like waves that just start to float away. So what I was doing is like pulling all those say remnants of you back into you. Okay, all right. So now that you're more singular, so when you look at somebody, you can see how they're rendering themselves. Are they more coherent? And this is what true coherence. Everybody talks about coherence, but nobody really knows what it's about. So, are you rendering yourself in, say, a single dimension of space and time? And you'll see that. So, with you, with savants and so on, you'll start to see their physical body, and then also like which dimension they're rendering, and then if you want, you can actually see how see what dimension that they're rendering in, and you can actually tell them how they work because you have that ability already. Can I help you activate that for you?

Masati 1:33:03
All right. So, just give me a second. There we go. So, did you kind of notice yourself shift a bit?

Alex Ferrari 1:33:23
Kind of a

Masati 1:33:25
Yeah, just give me one second. But I just want to anchor you so you don't. Sometimes people get disoriented, so there we go. So I locked you in a bit as well initially, you and the audience, because sometimes when you start to see other people's dimensions, especially if you're empathic, you'll just like literally vaporize into their dimension, and that's not good. So I was just pulling you. You're not as bad, but people in your audience who are empaths, basically, they want to. They need to stay anchored where they need to be. There we go. All right. 1234, There we go. How how are you doing?

Alex Ferrari 1:34:08
I'm doing good.

Masati 1:34:10
I can also shift you if you want, so you can experience it. Do you want to

Alex Ferrari 1:34:15
Go for it?

Masati 1:34:15
Do you want to experience it? Okay. So you and your audience as well. All right. So take a breath in, and I'm just going to count. So I'm not going to plant any seeds for you or anything like that. But I'll just count, okay? And you tell me what you feel. All right, 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12, So, did you experience anything? Did you feel a pull out of your body?

Alex Ferrari 1:35:08
I felt pulses.

Masati 1:35:10
Yeah, you're actually solid, grounded, which is nice. It took me a bit harder to say push you out of your consciousness or your awareness of where your body is, but did you feel that pulse or that push? That pull.

Alex Ferrari 1:35:26
Yeah.

Masati 1:35:27
Okay. So that's so. I didn't want to push you too far, but those people again who aren't say as solid as you are, they would have literally felt themselves like move across the room. You know. So, but again, you're more solid. It's like no, I want to stay here. That's where I want to be, the present moment. So, so you did good, but you'll feel pulses like I was pulling you, and then you go, nope, I'll be back pulling in. So, okay, so when so that's what you're going to see is that oh, they're rendering themselves over there, but their body is over here,

Alex Ferrari 1:36:01
And that means that something's off.

Masati 1:36:02
Yeah, and that means that something's off. The further off they are from their body, the more weirder they are.

Alex Ferrari 1:36:13
All right, so I'll tell you what happened. Yes. So when you were going, when when you were saying you were taking fragments around, spirit usually uses cinema and movies and TV show to express things to me because that's my language. Yeah, exactly. So I saw, and I don't know where it came from, and I'm not a huge fan, but I grew up with it. Voltron.

Masati 1:36:35
Okay,

Alex Ferrari 1:36:35
I saw all the lions coming together, forming Voltron. Oh, so cool! That was a different fragments that you were bringing together. So that was the first thing I saw. Second thing is when you were doing it, all of a sudden I just felt my because I was becoming very well. I was studying my body and feeling everything, and I just started doing this.

Masati 1:36:57
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:36:57
I just started shifting a little bit, and then you said, "Are you? Do you feel a shift? And I, I just started laughing because I was like, "It's exactly what I'm feeling. So my body, by itself, just started to kind of rock a little bit.

Masati 1:37:09
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 1:37:10
Back and forth. So that was the next thing. Then when we were going into it all a little bit more, I, in my in my mind, I was on a beach, and I saw waves coming in. Waves coming in.

Masati 1:37:25
Nice,

Alex Ferrari 1:37:26
But it but it was a specific beach. It's the beach from Contact.

Masati 1:37:30
Okay,

Alex Ferrari 1:37:31
You remember Contact, the movie Contact with with Jodie Foster?

Masati 1:37:34
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:37:34
When she goes to see her father, when like she travels in that wormhole.

Masati 1:37:37
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:37:38
She ends off in a place where it's like this beautiful beach, and her dad comes out, and everything. It's the aliens and all that stuff. That's where I was. That was the beach I was in specifically. So it was interesting that I chose that beach versus millions of other beaches. I mean, I love the movie. I really do enjoy that movie, but it's not, it's not The Matrix, or it's not like one of those movies that really hit me. But it's a beautiful movie, and I love it, but that beach had some sort of resonance for me. I don't know why for this scenario. So then, and then as you were talking, the waves were hitting me here in the third eye constantly. So that was the push, the pulse that I felt. I didn't feel any yanking or anything. I did. I just didn't move, but I felt I felt pulses. So I don't know if that means anything.

Masati 1:38:24
Yeah, it does. Well, like I said, you're more coherent. You're you stay in your position where you should be. Other people would literally feel themselves like stepped out of their body, like the audience listening to this. Some people go, "Whoa, that that even on the recording they'll go shit. I it felt like I stepped out of my body, and it's not like me doing that to you, but you have a propensity, whoever happens to, that they literally step get stepped out of their body.

Alex Ferrari 1:38:54
Masati, you're very different in a beautiful way, sir. You're very, very different. One thing you you speak about about the timeless self. What is the time? Is the timeless self? Yeah, we've been talking about.

Masati 1:39:09
Yes, is that the? Yeah, people use spirit, but you know, spirit has just been so watered down, muddied. You know, they've got a spiritual, a lot of spiritual and or scientific type connotations on that. I just use the timeless self, which is the limitless

Alex Ferrari 1:39:25
Soul spirit. It's all kind of the same thing. Just a different term for it.

Masati 1:39:29
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:39:30
Interesting. I mean, I mean, I could talk to you for another hour, man.

Masati 1:39:35
What What's really cool is like you know people who have really really amazing abilities, like Elon Musk or anybody like that, if they started or understood the concepts behind what I teach, they would be amazing

Alex Ferrari 1:39:51
Even more.

Masati 1:39:51
And yeah, even more. Their technologies wouldn't say destroy the reality that we're in, because even the most say. Benevolent, say technology has always turned into something that very oh can be

Alex Ferrari 1:40:05
Absolutely a hammer could kill our build. It's up to exactly

Masati 1:40:07
Yeah. So so and the purpose why you know even food now has become a destructive force because because we, because we build it in an altered state and we bring it here and it's foreign to it. We have to change, say, this consciousness or this environment for that, say, technology to say properly create say sustenance for us.

Alex Ferrari 1:40:30
Let me, because, and I don't want to go down because I'll talk to you for an hour or two about this. But recently, I've gone through a shift in my body, in my ability to the way what I'm eating, how I'm eating, getting into food science and all that stuff. What I've been studying within myself as my own experiment is, and it's I know it doesn't sound revolutionary, but it is eating clean whole foods,

Masati 1:41:00
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:41:01
As minimally processed as possible.

Masati 1:41:03
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 1:41:04
As minimally processed. I mean, everything has a form of you know tofu has there's processing. Yeah, tempeh is processed. You know, even meat is processed. You know, regardless. But I'm talking about ultra processed, getting away from all that ultra processed. You know where you see an Oreo cookie and and they put a blowtorch to it and it for a minute

Masati 1:41:24
Yeah and doesn't burn it doesn't I haven't seen that but I oh no

Alex Ferrari 1:41:29
No it literally they they did they put a bunch of Oreo cookies and they 10 seconds 20 seconds and they did two minutes on one and it it charred but it didn't the bag it came in goes faster than the actual thing, you know? And then of course everyone's seen those McDonald burgers that they sit there forever and they never change. So that's ultra processed.

Masati 1:41:52
Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:41:52
But what has happened to me is as I continue to eat these whole processed whole foods that I process at home. I mean, when I say I process. I cook. Yeah. I combine. I'm the one putting it all together. I see the ingredients.

Masati 1:42:05
Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:42:05
My my everything has changed. Yes. In my existence, in my body, in my mind, in my spiritual experience.

Masati 1:42:13
Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:42:13
All of it has shifted in a way that I I didn't really understand. I did on an intellectual level, but now I understand it at such a deep level. Now it's fascinating, and we are under attack, no question,

Masati 1:42:26
Totally around the world because they're trying to separate you from, say, the source of nutrition. It's not just you know minerals and supplements, and you know minerals and all the things that you need physically, biologically, but it's the connection to the intelligence that created the food,

Alex Ferrari 1:42:43
The energy,

Masati 1:42:44
The energy. That's the piece that's missing in a lot of foods. And what's happening to you is like you've changed, therefore your food has to change. You're not forcing yourself to eat clean.

Alex Ferrari 1:42:55
No, no, no. I search for it

Masati 1:42:58
Exactly. It's like is like you are a higher, say, resonating being, and it's like that just doesn't resonate with me. So it's not a force. It's not like ah, I can't eat McDonald's or I can't, you know, like some people do.

Alex Ferrari 1:43:11
Yeah, no, it's not. I don't want that. I don't want it anymore. Exactly. It's

Masati 1:43:15
And that's how we change the world. Is like people awakening, like on your show, and it's beautiful. You know, people start awakening. It's like I don't want that shit. No matter how much media or how much you know advertising goes into it, it's like no, I'm not taking that stuff. And that's where we change the world.

Alex Ferrari 1:43:31
Have you seen the the? This is the beauty of nature. They put out an experiment. They put out a stock of corn, like a cornucop, right? Raw,

Masati 1:43:41
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:43:41
On a stick, and then they put a GMO corn on the cob, and they put it in the forest. Yeah, they set a camera up. The animals wouldn't touch the GMO. They devoured the other one in a day.

Masati 1:43:53
Exactly.

Alex Ferrari 1:43:54
No one even looked at it. So, what does that say that the animals are more intelligent.

Masati 1:44:02
There's an, but they're running on an intelligent system.

Alex Ferrari 1:44:04
They're they're running on something else that because they look identical.

Masati 1:44:08
They look identical,

Alex Ferrari 1:44:09
And they smell identical, and everything looks. But there was something so different from the GMO version of it that the animals like, nope, not good. I could starve, but I know if I eat that, I will die. Exactly. That's the way they felt, at least. Exactly. But but what's that intelligence? That's but that's the point. Like, what is the information that a deer or a chipmunk or a squirrel is getting to go? Oh no! Because it goes against every instinct that that animal has to continue to to survive is to eat and eat as much as they can when they have food, but that food I'm not touching. It's fascinating. That that when I saw that, I was like, wow.

Masati 1:44:49
Well, that's what that's what this is all about. Is like, wait, let's get back to the intelligent code that you're built already with, and remember it. You don't even have to learn it. You already have it. You just have to remember it

Alex Ferrari 1:45:04
And that's what this whole thing is. It's like you're not learning to become enlightened. You're remembering who you truly are.

Masati 1:45:12
That's it.

Alex Ferrari 1:45:14
That that's in.

Masati 1:45:15
That's the key. Is like remember who you are, and then go down river, and it changes a lot faster.

Alex Ferrari 1:45:22
Masati, where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing, sir?

Masati 1:45:25
They can go to thexicode, the XI exponentialintelligence code.com. There's also Masati.live M A S A T I.live, which is my YouTube channel, and they can get a ton of just free free downloads, and it's we also do it live every Sunday. We do that live, and I scan people. You don't have to tell me your age, anything. Just say, "Hey, scan me, and I can scan your frequency and tell you what's going on.

Alex Ferrari 1:45:57
Really?

Masati 1:45:58
Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:45:58
Well, maybe we could do that in a minute. I would love to know. We've done a bunch of stuff today already, so Masati, it's been a pleasure talking to you, my friend. Thank you. I look forward to having you back for more interesting conversations. I appreciate you and everything you're doing.

Masati 1:46:15
Thank you so much, my friend. Thank you.