Alex Ferrari 0:00
Why are you still going to church as a Catholic? But yet, there's so much you disagree with.

Julie Ryan 0:07
And we all do it, whether we admit to it or not, with everything, not just religion. You know, you're looking at a menu where you're going to order what you want, not what they want to feed you, what I call grace, bestow upon people who pray and who meditate and who connect with spirit. It's all about energy. The Bible has been studied for eons, and it's still being studied, and there are so many differing opinions about what this means, what that means, what's the early translation? What was the original meaning behind it? People coming back to these organized churches, but it's from a different mindset. It's not, hey, Father, I'm coming to talk to you because you're going to solve all my problems, and you know, you're the only way I can get to God. I don't believe that that's what's happening.

Alex Ferrari 1:00
What is the spiritual science behind why this these places have this vibration to it, if what they've done is kind of change what originally, you know, originally was intended by Christ.

Julie Ryan 1:15
This is a great example of people...

Alex Ferrari 1:21
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Alex Ferrari 2:14
I like to welcome back to the show returning champion Julie Ryan, how you doing, Julie?

Julie Ryan 2:18
I'm wonderful. I'm always wonderful when I'm with you.

Alex Ferrari 2:22
Thank you so much, sweetie. I appreciate it. Um, I'm excited to have you back on the show. We there's a lot of stuff going on in the world, a lot, and I wanted to talk to you a little bit about it from spirits point of view and and for people who don't know who you are, the quick. Can you give them a quick 32nd you know, kind of, I hate to age ourselves, but the Reader Digest version, or the clue or the Cliff Notes version of who you are.

Julie Ryan 2:51
Absolutely. I'm a I'm a serial entrepreneur who's founded nine companies in five industries, and I'm an inventor and former manufacturer of surgical devices sold globally for more than 30 years, who learned how to do medical intuition and energy healing and all of that. So I'm a businesswoman who learned how to do Woo, woo, and I'm a buffet of psychicness.

Alex Ferrari 3:15
That's a great way. I love the buffet of psychicness. So I wanted it we were right before we came on, we were having a conversation. You were what? You just watched this amazing film that we have on next level soul TV called marketing the Messiah. And both of us are Catholics, or I'm a recovering Catholic, you're a cafeteria Catholic, and you can explain what that is in a minute. But that movie kind of started a conversation before we started about churches, and that you still go to church, even though you don't believe a lot about about what the Gospels say, or or the the kind of BS stuff that the that the Catholic Vatican or the church did Rome did originally, right? But then we started getting into a deeper conversation about, first of all, why you kept going? And then what happens? What you see from a psychics perspective in church, even though that you know they might be reading a gospel, you're like, that's some BS that's coming out of the book right now. But I was very curious. I'm like, why are you still going? So first off, let's find out, why are you still going to church as a Catholic, but yet, there's so much you disagree with what the man made church stuff has done.

Julie Ryan 4:29
As you know, I call myself a cafeteria Catholic, and that that means, and we all do it, whether we admit to it or not, with everything, not just religion. You know, you're looking at a menu where you're going to order what you want, not what they want to feed you, necessarily. So for me, going through 12 years of Catholic schools, it's familiar. Certainly, I think the Catholics do a great job of helping little children become spiritual. From a human perspective, when we learn about guardian angels and saints and the Holy Spirit and all of that, I teach people around the world how to do my buffet of psychicness. And I find that people that don't have any kind of a religious background, they're they're jumping off the high dive without any training, the ones that have been exposed to saints and angels and things like that. You know, they they are a little bit in the deeper, closer to the deeper end, if you will. So why do I go? Because of the energy that I see get bestowed on everybody that shows up first for mass. Yeah, I go. I go pretty much every week. I meditate every morning, and I say the rosary every morning, every morning. I do. It's amazing. I do, yeah, I use the hollow app. And I may be making my bed, or I may be brushing my teeth or something, Hail Mary's, and, you know, the whole nine yards, and I and I see the, what I call grace, bestow upon people who pray and who meditate and who connect with spirit. It's all about energy. So if we go back to the original meaning of what let's say, Jesus and the apostles wanted to have with the early church. And then you go into the the first centuries, those Gothic cathedrals were all designed to help people raise their vibrational level to the level of spirit the Gothic, you know, the high ceilings, the reverb that's in there. You've got the visual with the beautiful altars and stained glass windows and all that. You got the olfactory with the candles and the incense. You got the auditory with the chants and the music and the pipe organs. You have the everybody together saying the same prayers, you know, I mean, that's ancient, where a lot of people together the energy that comes whether we're praying or we're meditating, and as you've heard me say before, our heads are like big satellite dishes, and they receive and they transmit frequencies. Every spirit has a frequency they keep throughout all of their lifetimes. And when we're attached to a body, our frequency is slower just because the body has mass. Imagine trying to run an electrical current through a bullet pudding. It's going to slow it down because of the mass of the pudding. Same concept. So in order to communicate with spirit, we need to raise our vibrational level, because Spirit is always communicating with us, whether that be God himself, or, you know, or Jesus or Buddha or a deceased loved one, or our cat or whomever. It doesn't matter. It's all energy, but they're always broadcasting when we receive the communication is when we're tuned to that channel, similar to DIRECTV or satellite TV. How many shows do they broadcast simultaneously, hundreds, if not 1000s. But the show that you're going to receive is going to be predicated on where you have your TV tuned. What channel are you tuned into and that's how all of this works. So I think for me, I don't believe that it makes sense to throw the baby out with the bath water, because when I am at Mass, I see energetic things happening during the different parts of the mass, during the ritual that are ancient. And I've been to several other cathedrals and shrines and basilicas where I'm scanning it. I want to see what's going on, and I have great stories about that I'd be happy to share.

Alex Ferrari 8:52
It's fascinating, because what I from my experience, I've I've had the privilege of going around the world and going to different churches every time we travel to Europe, every day we're in a church, because that's what Europe is, generally speaking, especially in Italy. Italy, in Spain, there are churches everywhere, right? So, and we're drawn to it. My wife and I are drawn to my kids are just like, a really, another freaking church. I'm like, Yes, we're going to this church again and enjoy it. It's amazing. So we're walking in and be there's something about, there's energy in these places, yeah, and I was always curious about that, about why this energy still stays there, even though a lot of it is built on a foundation of, like, this kind of missing, not misinformation, but just clogging up the pudding. All the pudding is being thrown on it, and it's not the true teachings of what Christ really stood for, or any of this kind of stuff. So it's packaged in this weird way. But I was, like, always wondering, why would spirit still leave that energy there? What. Is this? I hate to say this, but what is the science behind this? What is the spiritual science behind why this? These places have this vibration to it, if what they've done is kind of change what originally, you know, originally was intended by Christ. We're talking specifically about Catholicism at this point, yeah, and it's, and you can't deny the beauty. Like, I mean, you walk into the Peter, St Peter's Basilica and you just, like, Good lord. Like, like, what the Jesus? No pun intended. Like, my I mean, and you walk into it, but like, some of the most energetically charged churches I've been into. The one I it comes right to mine was this little one in London that we were in a hole in the wall ancient medieval church. But it was kind of like inside of a courtyard with all the modern buildings around it. So it was kind of like this little thing inside. You couldn't even see it from the street, and it was right next to where William Wallace was killed. Oh, wow. It was right next to there. So we went to see that, and we like, oh, there's a church there. Let's go walk. And we walk in. It's this medieval church that has this my wife and I were like, what is the energy? And it's not a particularly stunning church. It's it's a beautiful church. And for what it is, Middle East, middle middle aged church. A lot of stone, lot of brave heart could have been shot in there. No question, without question, it could have been. But the energy there was so beautiful. There were graves inside of the floors, like you could see people's graves and everything around it was a very unique thing, but I felt the energy there. So it wasn't even what you were just talking about, the the beauty. It was stunning and stained glass windows. It had some of that, but it wasn't, you know, wasn't Notre Dame, it wasn't St Peter's Basilica, it wasn't anything like that. But I've just found it very interesting. We went into one in Italy. We went into an underground altar area of a basilica in Italy. Was a former basilica in Italy in the Amalfi Coast. My wife started crying, and she is not she's not religious at all. She's a recovering Catholic, as I am, and she just started, and there's nothing It was. It was a very beautiful, it was very ornate, beautiful space. But when I walked into it, I was like, Ooh, but she just started to tear up. So I was wondering, like, what on a spiritual science level, I hate this, but what is actually happening in these spaces? What has happened in these spaces that has created this energy and then continues, according to you, from what your experience continues to create these energies, to come through. Why is spirit choosing to go through a priest delivering this energy in a mass? Which I agree with you. I understand what you're saying. It makes sense that that happens. But why is Spirit doing that if it didn't if the church as an organization has not really done everything all you know, it's human, so it hasn't always been perfect. Let's just, let's leave it at that. So why do you think that? Why do you think that from a spiritual perspective?

Julie Ryan 13:14
I think there are several factors. First of all, a lot of those cathedrals were are built on very specific ley lines, like you were talking about being in a mosque, and there was a cathedral inside the mosque, and those are all built on lay lines. And people, back in the day, they knew that they could feel the energy. And a lot of those places were originally pagan places, pagan energy. That's theirs. That's number one. Number two, when you get centuries of people chanting, praying, you know the the grace that's coming from the mass that people get over the years that embeds in the structure, that energy stays in the structure. And I think your point about walking in and and your wife starting to cry is a really valid one, because she was picking up on the beauty of the energy. She wasn't picking up on the sadness of it. She was touched by what was going on. Furthermore, in a lot of those old cathedrals, they to your point, they have graves in them, which is kind of creepy, you know, on the surface and and the whole concept of relics is kind of creepy in my mind, from a human perspective. But then when I go to, okay, so here's a little chip, supposedly, of a bone of Saint. Whoever that energy from that saint is still in that bone chip that's inside that relic. My family has a relic like that. My father was in the the seminary in Rome for six years after World War Two, and went on the GI Bill, which I think is hilarious, and left six months. Before he was to be ordained, obviously, or I wouldn't be here, but he graduated from the Gregorian University where St Thomas Aquinas and a whole bunch of Popes graduated from, and he got this relic when he was when he was in Rome, and brought it home with him. And my older brother has it. And so when somebody in the family is sick, or a dear friend, he'll take that relic to them. I'm telling you, Alex, more times than not, that person gets well. I mean, there's some serious Mojo in that relic, even for people that don't really believe it's got an energy to it. So that's interesting. The other thing is, any kind of a structure is going to hold energy. And when you get that many people, you know, raising their vibrational level to the level of spirit, the structure is going to vibrate at the same level, much like metronomes. If you put a bunch of metronomes in a room and they're they're tick tocking at different rates. They're all going to synchronize. Yeah, they're all going to synchronize. So why is that still in those buildings? Why does, why does that still persist even with the problems with the church? Well, there aren't problems with every church, with every government, with every civilization. And the key is, you know, think about America, my gosh, there's so many different opinions in America, which is what makes America great? If everything was all the same thing, how boring life would be, and nothing would ever change, because that's when we create, is when we're unhappy with something. So it would be like saying, well, we just need to stop America, because we don't, you know, we don't agree with some of the things that have happened over the centuries in American history. I think history makes things what it what they are like in the case of the church, and so we take what we like. For me, I agree that there I was telling you, before we started recording, there's some gospels, you know, some excerpts from the Bible that they read it past. And I'll be talking to my husband, going, Oh, that is such nonsense. Like, you know, the My favorite is the wife has to honor the husband, you know, even if he's beating her or whatever, I'm paraphrasing, they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And after mass, I always go up to the priest and I go, you did a good job of getting yourself out of that one. You know, doing around it. I think, too. The thing that's so interesting is the Bible has been studied for eons, and it's still being studied, and there are so many differing opinions about what this means, what that means, what's the early translation, what was the original meaning behind it? So we take what we want out of it, out of a lot of the all of those parables and everything, and you're the one that told me to watch that marketing the Messiah and, and it was really interesting. I anybody that's a member, if you're not a member, become a member to next level soul the just to watch that. It's fascinating because they're saying, Okay, this is in this gospel. This is in the other gospel. This is in the other gospel. And some of them don't have any of it. And, you know, a lot of them never met Jesus. Never met anybody connected with Jesus.

Alex Ferrari 18:26
I don't think anybody, I don't think anybody in the New Testament. Correct me if I'm wrong. James, John Paul, never met Jesus, right? Paul never he's not even an apostle. He wrote all those letters to the Corinthians. Yeah, that's right. And then, and then, but, but, but, when he first started to write, he like, this is some BS, this Jesus guy. This is a horrible thing. So he and then he did a turn. It's just a, that's a, it's a fascinating movie. It's one of my favorite things that we have on Next Level Soul TV.

Julie Ryan 18:58
It was great. I'm glad you told me to watch it.

Alex Ferrari 18:59
Yeah, it's just so much for any Catholic should watch it, just as a person or anybody who is any Christian, any Christian, thank you. Any Christian should watch it, because it just opens it just opens you up to different ideas. I love what you just said. You don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Yeah, and, and, you know what? There's been a lot of spiritual trauma, I guess that I went through. And I think every Catholic that kind of comes over to the other side, if you will, does have a trauma. You've obviously dealt with that trauma. Like for me, it's difficult to go to a to for me it's difficult to go to a mass. I haven't been to a mass in forever, but I've been in churches constantly, yeah, anytime I travel overseas, so I keep getting drawn into them. It's not like I don't want like i It's the first thing. If we're in Europe and there's a church around, we're gonna go, just out of curiosity. There's something I'm drawn to.

Julie Ryan 19:55
Your energy of it, yeah? But so the high vibe.

Alex Ferrari 19:59
Now the mosque that I told you about, we were in the south of Spain, and there's this, Matt, I mean, I've never seen something so massive. It's a massive, massive mosque with, you know, more architecture and all. It's stunning. But it was when the it was because it's Northern Africa. Is right at the tip of Northern Africa, so when the Christians came from the from the north down south, they obviously were taking over everything. When they took over the mosque, they just built a church inside of it, a Catholic church inside of it. And It's the strangest space I've been into in a religious thing, because you have two competing ideologies and architecture in the same space, but it's beautiful. The Catholic church that they built inside of it they built essentially two is stunning, stunning, stunning, stunning. But the energy in there was so stunning and beautiful. But you're looking at a mosque with Jesus hanging on the cross, or images of Mary stuff. It was just the weirdest thing, but it was a beautiful energy. I did tell did I tell you what happened to me when I went to the Vatican? I don't think so. So I went to St Peter's Basilica, and I go, I go in, and it's, you know, there's la prietra Right there. And, you know, you're like, Jesus, holy crap. It's, it's still, it's one of the largest churches I've ever been to, if not

Julie Ryan 21:27
Hold 10,000 people or something crazy.

Alex Ferrari 21:29
Well, that church can the one in south of Spain. I argue that could hold 10,000 people because it was just so it wasn't, it was big, but it wasn't as big as the St Peter's Basilica, but it was just wide. It was just just kept going for miles, it seemed. But St, Peter's is just such a it's just an insane, insane space. But I had the opportunity to go into the crypts where the popes are buried. So I was walking by, and they said, Hey, go. Do you want to come in? I'm like, What is this? They're like, what is this? They're like, Oh, this is where the popes are buried. And it was quiet, you know, like, yeah, and our whole family went down and, and it's just, you know, there's St Paul, or Pope John Paul's right there. And you're like, Oh, wow. Like, I feel like, oh, I mean, I'm where the celebrities are. I know these people kind of thing. But you're walking around, you just see the dates from, like, you know, 400 500 600 and it's all very plain. The whole place is white marble, but it's like jagged white marble, so it's all very clean and plain. I turn a corner and I look down like it's like a little Hall, like a very small hallway, and at the end there's a glass door, and it's nothing but color inside, just wood and like, like, mahogany carved wood and paintings and and a fountain. And I'm like, inside, I'm like, What is this? And I asked one of the people that worked there, go, who's in there? Well, that's Peter, oh. And I go, because I felt it. I felt there was, I mean, like, I was like, I got chills being there. I go, You mean, you mean Peter, the Peter that paid Paul, and they said, Yeah, that's Peter. And I was just like, in awe, yeah. Of like, holy crap. That's, that's Peter. That's where Peter is. So it's like, wow. And the energy there was so interesting. So there's this kind of, for me, at least, there seems to be two sides pulling on me, the side of the energy and the beauty and the obvious, there's good in it, the good the baby, but then there's the bath water that that I have, that I have issues with, and that's why I'm kind of always been pulled but yet I'm still always drawn to these places. So I have a lot of problems with the Catholic Church. I have a lot of problems what they've done over the history. I have a lot of problems with what they do currently. I think a lot of the stuff they don't they do is not good. But on the same token, on the other side of that coin, they do help a lot of people around the world. They do provide a lot of service for a lot of people. And I've always said this, and I'll always say it, I'm very grateful for being raised Catholic, because, just like you said, it introduced me to a higher power. Mind you, there was a lot of muck with it, a lot of pudding, but it did introduce me to a higher power that I will always be grateful for because of that, because I was introduced to Jesus's teachings and stuff. But another thing that you said, too is, like meta, when you meditate, you're doing it. When you're praying, you're doing it. A lot of people in the new age don't understand that difference. Can you explain to it? Because just because there's a yogi meditating doesn't negate the person who's praying on a daily basis the rosary. They're both doing similar things, but in a different fashion. Can you explain that a little bit?

Julie Ryan 24:47
I can. Before I get to that, I'd like to follow up on on what we were talking about earlier, with the vibration in these buildings. You hit the nail on the head, Alex, when you said when you were in the mosque with the. Catholic basilica built inside the mosque. It's all the same God. It's all spirit. It doesn't matter whether you like chocolate or vanilla or strawberry, it's all ice cream, right? And this is the same with spirit. Catholicism is familiar to me. I It's the ritual. When somebody in my family dies, we know what to do. We do the ritual. It's very comforting. It's very there's closure there. It helps with the grieving. All of that. Two stories real fast, if I may, share them about being in in different churches, one the the basilica in Baltimore, Maryland, fun, fun, quick story. It was built by the same it was designed by the same architect that designed the US Capitol. It's not Gothic. You go in, it's got a dome, it's got pillars the whole nine yards. And the story on that, and I heard this from a docent there at the Basilica. She told me that that Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, and John Carroll, who was the first bishop in the new in America, were poker buddies, and they would get together and play poker once a week. And so Ben Franklin was the ambassador to France, and he became friends with the ambassador from the Holy See, from the Vatican. And one night he said to this, this Vatican guy goes, you know my buddy, John Carroll, you need to tell Pope to make him the bishop, because he's in Baltimore, and you know he'd be, he'd do a really good job. So within a month, the Vatican made John Carroll the first bishop in America, and they said, just build a basilica. You know, whatever. They didn't give him a budget. They just said, Just build it. So they're playing poker, and Thomas Jefferson goes, you know, why don't you talk to this guy who's designing this capital for us, the new federal capital. That's how it got built. So I'm there on business. I had a moment extra. I went to Mass at noon. I crashed a funeral. Alex, there was a funeral going on. I didn't know it, but I thought, What the heck, you know? So I was there. And during the mass, I'm looking around and, you know, at the structure and and all of that. Afterwards, this woman came up to me and she said, Are you visiting? And I said, Was I that obvious? And she left. And she said, Would you like a tour? I said, Oh, I would love it. So she gave me a tour of all this. The structure was originally built. All it was sand holding up all the beams and everything of this Basilica. And just in the past, like 20 years, they've replaced all the original sand. So we're in the undercroft. We go through this, this hallway, and I mean, my whole body started buzzing, and I said, What's this? It's where John Carroll was buried. It's his crypt. We go into this little chapel in the undercroft of the Basilica. And for some reason, this woman's this woman started getting teary, and she said, My son just died by suicide six months ago. Please forgive me for my emotion, but every time I come in here, I can feel them. And I said, Well, I'm a psychic. You want to talk to him? She said, Yeah, so we did. We both sat there. We talked to her son's spirit. She got all of her questions answered. It gave her so much comfort. And then after we were done talking with them, I said, there's a Pew back there on the back of the wall. And I said, Mother who Mother Teresa and John Carroll are sitting on the pew. And she said, go look at the plaque on the pew. It said, Mother Teresa, sat in this pew when she visited the basilica in 19 whatever her spirit and John Carroll's spirit were there. They wanted me to see them so I could relay that to this woman, which is why, you know, it feels so good there. So that's Story number one. Story number two, there's a shrine north of me. I live in Birmingham, Alabama, and there's a shrine north of me in a place called Hanceville, Alabama. It was built by a woman named Mother Angelica, who founded an order of nuns here in Birmingham. And so you go and in the undercroft of this Basilica, all gold's beautiful, gorgeous people come from all over the world to come visit this place in the undercroft. They do a healing service once a week. And I've been to it four times, and every time I'm there, Alex, the priest, does what they call benediction. It's a service that they do, and they say prayers and stuff. And then everybody comes up to the communion rail. And if they can kneel, they they do if they need to stand, if they're in a wheelchair, whatever. And he blesses them with the communion, with the host, right? And so every time I'm there, whenever anybody gets blessed all the way down the communion rail, it's like somebody's flipping a light switch as soon as that person is blessed. Furthermore. When everybody's back in the pew, there are tongues of fire on everybody's head, like Pentecost, when the Holy Spirit came, and there were tongues of fire on the apostles heads. You know that whole part of the of the New Testament, I haven't seen that anywhere else. And they have lots of other stories of seeing energy, different energy things in different cathedrals, but at every mass, I see energy. During the consecration, when the priest says, This is my body, this is my blood, there's a beam of energy that comes from up outside of the church up above, comes down on the altar, and then when he holds up the chalice or the host. There's this beam of light that goes out on the whole congregation. The ending prayer, same thing. Priest holds up his hand, gives you a blessing. There's energy that goes out on everybody. So I'm sure people think I'm very reverent, because my eyes are closed a lot of the time at mass, but it's because I'm watching the energy that's going on that's coming from spirit, coming from God, coming from source. And it's fascinating.

Alex Ferrari 31:06
So before you continue, I just want to ask you, and I'm going to play devil's advocate, no pun intended, yeah, that if, if man created this church, and there is a lot of pudding, as we like to, as you like to say, right in this and there's a lot of muck, and it hasn't always been perfect, and it always hasn't been good. Why does spirit choose to do that? Like, why wouldn't it want, and again, devil's advocate, why wouldn't spirit want to kind of, like, kind of let this go and let this kind of fall apart without this kind of support. Because I agree with you, there is something that happens in there, but if it's coming through a priest, it kind of goes against everything that we've always talked about, which is the powers within you. So I'm curious. I'm just trying to make sense of that.

Julie Ryan 31:53
Yeah, two answers to that. Number one, the millennia of high vibration of spirit being in all of these places, the millennia of the rituals, the millennia of the intention still is present. Number one, it's in all those structures. It's in the rituals. It's in the praying of the Rosary. And I'll get to your meditation versus prayer thing in a minute, when when it comes to what was your second question, remind me,

Alex Ferrari 32:24
Why? Why does it? Why is it? Why does it choose to come through, you know, a human being like that to,

Julie Ryan 32:30
Oh, yeah, the priest, yeah, yeah, yes, yeah. I think it's been my experience, and this is my belief. I don't have to go through a priest. They go direct

Alex Ferrari 32:42
Exactly. That's what we've always said, Yeah,

Julie Ryan 32:44
And I think that whole you got to go through the priest and or you got to go through the pastor. You got to go through the Taoist priest or the Buddha priest or whatever. That's just all control. You know, that's all man made, trying to control the masses. I believe a lot of the old guard, my parents, my grandparents, my great grandparents and my ancestors believed that special powers yours did too. Certainly, of course, those people are dying off, Alex, and there's a resurgence of of people coming back to these organized churches, but it's from a different mindset. It's not, hey, Father, I'm coming to talk to you because you're going to solve all my problems, and you know, you're the only way I can get to God. I don't believe that that's what's happening. I think these younger people in the newer generations that are coming back, and there is a big resurgence in organized religion there, especially in America. They're what they're doing is they're saying, Okay, this is an atmosphere. This ritual has energy to it. There's something going on that I'm attracted to. There's something in the building, there's something in the structure. There's something when a bunch of people get together to pray for similar things or even their own intentions, but they're all at a higher vibration level, all coming together. And you get that group of people together, you know, if you're in a church and they're singing a bunch of wonderful songs that lifts you up, it makes you feel better,

Alex Ferrari 34:24
Sure! Just on an energetic level, vibrational level, sure,

Julie Ryan 34:27
Yeah, yeah. So there's that. Now, to answer your question about the prayer versus the meditation, what do you think prayer is? It's meditation. It's a form of meditation, the rosary beads. People have been praying with beads since the caveman days, since the dinosaur era around the world, exactly, and and they used to make the beads out of rose petals, which is why they call it the rosary. Rosary. Yeah, rosary. So that's ancient. People have been. Doing a form of prayer or meditation. And it's the same thing, you know, it's rote prayer. The reason why the prayers are so ancient in the Catholic Church, of which I'm the most familiar, you kind of remember, most people were illiterate till about 150 years ago. In some parts of the world, they still are. So they would do the rote prayers because they could remember them, and they would all do the rote prayers together, which would raise the collective vibration and allow them to connect with spirit and receive guidance and blessings and things like that.

Alex Ferrari 35:38
I agree with you that I think that any, any way that someone can connect to spirit in their way, as long as you're not hurting someone else is is perfectly fine. If you know, I find it so fascinating when people, you know, when people sit on their high horse and they're like, Well, my way is the only way. If my god is that right? God and all that stuff. That's what wars are all all the wars are going on right now. Many of them are about and all of that. But you know, you and I would just happen to be born, not happen. We chose, according to our Blueprints on the other side, but we chose to come in as Catholics, right to a Catholic family. But you, you could have been born in India. If you were born in India. If you were born in India, you would have probably been a Hindu. If you were born in China, you would have been either a Taoist, a Confucius or or Buddhist, you know, or many other options to have over there. Same thing. So if you were born in the Middle East, you're more likely going to be Muslim. If you're born in Africa, there's other there's other traditions over there. Well, also what I found, I just saw this video the other day. I found, I just thought it was just brilliant. It was an African, African man explaining to a group of Catholic or Christian students that they had their information mixed up. They they said, do you understand that Europeans did not bring Christianity to Africa. We had it before. You guys, the Ethiopian Bible is much older than anything in Europe.

Julie Ryan 37:10
Really, I didn't know that.

Alex Ferrari 37:12
I didn't either, I didn't either, like we actually had it lot longer than you guys have ever we were Christian way before the Europeans ever showed up.

Julie Ryan 37:21
You're gonna post a documentary about that on the network.

Alex Ferrari 37:25
I'm, hey, I'm, I'm only one man, but I will do what I can. I will, yeah, it was, it was so it was just such a fascinating like, yeah, that's, it's not a Euro, European religion. It's a Middle Eastern religion, right? That that came through Africa and then eventually got to Europe, and then eventually to America. But it was, it was, it's so there's a history in Africa that Christianity is much older, huh, and much closer. Well, the Ethiopian Bible is the closest Bible that includes the Book of Enoch, by the way, to the original release of the Bible back in the day. So the Ethiopian Bible is centuries older than the King James, centuries.

Julie Ryan 38:12
Well and the authors of whatever the text is, whether it be the Bible translated well, and you know, they're the ones that that are portraying how they want it to be. And I do have another story I'd love to share about how it's all the same. Spirit is all this. You know, God has all the same. One of my dear friends a Taoist priest named son Cheng he has a temple outside of Las Vegas, and I was there a couple of years ago, and he said he has a podcast, and I was a guest, and he said, you've been invited to the upper temple. And I said, okay, cool. And he's and I'm thinking, All right, so we go up there, Alex, we go up these stairs. There's these velvet curtains. I walk through these curtains, and I had a little bit of trouble breathing at first. It was so heavy, it was dense, the energy was dense. And he I said, My God, I feel like I'm scuba diving or something. And he said, Yeah, you'll, you'll normalize here in a minute. And he had these huge statues, and he's got, like, the Jade Emperor and these other I'm a Catholic girl, what do I know about the Jade Emperor? Nothing. And so I'm looking at the statues, and they're beautiful, and he's got incense, and he's got candles and all that. And there's a yin and yang symbol in the middle of the room in front of the altar. I went and stood on it. Alex, Holy Moses, this energy came flying up through my feet, flying off the top of my head. There were spirals, there were ellipticals. It went on for a couple of minutes. It was a huge frequency upgrade. I'm in the middle of it, and he can see it. He can watch what's going on. And then it was done. And I said, Good heavens. I said, I just got a free. Once he upgrade, he said, You sure did. And I thought, Okay, this is all the same Juju stuff. This is all energy coming from source. This is all the same. Not that I didn't intellectualize that before, but oh my goodness, it was amazing. And so afterwards, we were having dinner. And I said, Thank you for letting me go up there and experience that. He said, You're one of about five people that have been invited up there in all the years I've had this temple. He said, I didn't invite you. The Emperors did okay. And he said you had to have the vibration that was high enough that you could hold the vibration in that room and then get the the extra vibration. It was one of the most remarkable experiences of my life. Really. It was just amazing and, and he's an Aussie who became a Dallas priest because he started channeling Lao Tzu at 18. I mean, this guy was like, no religion, no meditation, no nothing, and and so it was. It was not only an amazing experience from the frequency upgrade that I got, but it was very enlightening in that it's really true. It doesn't matter what flavor you do, it's all the same God, it's all the same spirit, it's all the same source.

Alex Ferrari 41:24
I had something similar happened to me when I went to yogananda's place in Los Angeles, in Mount Washington. Energetically, there was a lot of stuff that happened to me there that I I mean, the nuns there were worried about me because I wouldn't leave. I couldn't leave. I could not leave the meditation there. It was pretty powerful. They kept popping their head into like, is he in some Monte like, let's go. It was very powerful. So there are those. There is, look, there's people who've come into this room, you've been here, right, that have come into this room and started to cry, not because of the show or anything else. But like,

Julie Ryan 42:03
They were in your presence,

Alex Ferrari 42:05
Not because they were in my presence, obviously, but because they walked into the space and they feel the energy of all of these high vibrational beings who've been on my show. Yeah, that. And do people sense it when they walk in this room? I, I'm in it all the time. Like, like, you know, if you if you're in it, in it all day, you don't feel it as much anymore. You're just used to it. It's your norm, right? But when other people who come into like, oh, there's like, oh, there's a lot of people who've been very interesting. People have sat in that chair, I go, yeah, there it is. So I understand how a space can hold a vibration without question, because this space we built from scratch, this did not exist, and we are definitely not on the ley line.

Julie Ryan 42:49
I have a another fun story real fast. I'd love to share my one of my dear friends is a woman named Nina, and she's 94 She's fabulous. She's had six she's got a bazillion grandkids and bazillion great grandkids. I had lunch with her last weekend, and she said, I have five great grandchildren driving now. She goes. That makes me feel like I'm a dinosaur. Anyways, she had this cute little stool, this was several years ago in her home, and I and it was all engraved, and it was like carved and stuff. And I said, Well, what's that? And she said, Well, it's it was a wake bench. It held the casket. I said, What are you doing with that in your house? And she said, well, well, her son had bought one, and he kept one and he gave her one. And I said, Okay, I need to clear that, because think of all the sorrow and the grief energy that's in that little bench, because back then, back in the day, they used to have wakes in the home, you know, somebody now we go to a funeral home to have the visitation, but the visitations used to be in the homes. So I, so I cleared the energy out and the energy, it wasn't dark, but it was sad, and it was it was all that sorrow that went into the wood of that bench. And then we got in the car, we drove to her son's house. She knocked on the door. She said, Julie, needs to clear the sorrow out of that funeral bench thing that you bought. And so we did his as well. So point being, it's not just high vibration energy. It can be low vibration energy of sorrow, like the camps, you know, in Germany or War Two, when people go in, there's, I haven't been to one. I don't want to go to one, but they say it's just overwhelming, the sorrow

Alex Ferrari 44:39
I could not when I when I went to nine, when I went to New York, in Manhattan, and I went to Ground Zero, I was walking in Manhattan, and the second I stepped up onto on the street, I was walking on the street when I stepped onto the sidewalk, where nine? Where 911 happened now, we're now in ground zero. Official. Actually, I was hit with a wall of sadness, despair. Energy was so heavy, right? I could bear it was so intense I started. I sat there for a second. I surrounded myself in white energy and trying to kind of protect myself from this, this vibe, this. And you could just sense it. You can feel it. It was just like, visceral. It was visceral. It's kind of like when, when I went to Hawaii and I got off the plane and I got hit by a wall of relaxation, because it was just like, the energy, the vibration of those islands, is just chill, like you can't, you know, I wasn't, I wasn't in the big city, which has its own vibration. I wasn't on Honolulu, it wasn't Maui. But when Maui. But when you get there, you just like, oh, I can't really move really fast. Island time is a thing. You go to the Caribbean, it's a thing. There's energies to it. But yeah, I've been to those places as well. And I guess, I guess, as you start to raise your own frequency in your own spiritual path, you start to become more sensitive to these these energies. You start to feel rooms. You start to feel people as well. We have another, another show. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. We have another show on the next level, Soul TV, called haunted objects, because you kind of brought up the bench. And and I'm curious, on your point of view, what happens to certain objects that historically have either a positive vibe to it or a really negative, almost haunting, like energy to it's like, if anyone is with it or touch it, I know you and I both are old enough to remember the Brady Bunch episode. Oh yeah, you know exactly which one I'm talking about, right? When Greg, when Greg took the idol, the Hawaiian idol, and they said, don't take it. It's got bad juju, and he almost dies, or something. I think he fell on something and he almost dies. I can't believe I'm making a Brady Bunch reference, but that was a that was like early spirituality. Of a lovely lady. We don't have the right to that, but anyway, so. But there's that that thing was, like, you pick up the certain object, or you have this certain object before we before you answer, I have to tell you this story. A friend of mine, who's a director, went to Easter Island. Oh, wow. And he was, he directed the movie about Easter Island, wanna poopy, or Africa, not wanna poopy, but you know what I'm saying? It's the name of island in their language. And he went there doing a location scout, and he was gonna do everything. And he went out into this area, and there was a bunch of, you know, just lava and stones and things like that. And he picked one up out in the field, somewhere, nothing sacred, just out in the field. Picked one up, or him, or his first ad, or someone picked it up when they were walking back towards the I guess the hotel or the bar, wherever they were staying, the entire area they were in was silent. When I say silent, there's not a bird chirping, there's not wind there. It was eerie. He said he's like you couldn't hear a sound, and it's so very odd, like humans, there's always a sound of something going on in nature. It was deathly silent. They walk in, and the Nate the locals turned him like, you took something, didn't you? And they're like, yeah. I was like, put it back. And he put it back, and everything went back to normal. And this is not a woo guy. This is a Hollywood director. And he's like, Yeah, dude, we we, when we made that movie, we did it with a tremendous amount of respect. So what's your take on all of that?

Julie Ryan 48:49
Two things. First of all, a dear friend of mine, Dr Christian Northrop, who I think spent on your show is she went to medical school at Dartmouth Ivy League. Her first day in medical school, they started talking to him about voodoo medicine. She's sitting here thinking, What? What is this? She's different. And she said that what they told them was that it's the belief system. It's the placebo effect. When somebody puts a curse on somebody. The people that die are the ones that believe that they're going to die because they have curse on them. The ones that are like, Oh, that's a bunch of nonsense. Nothing happens to them. So it's the belief number one. Number two, there's, we're going to be releasing a show here in a few weeks, and I'm trying to remember the name of the town. There's this town in England, little, tiny town where they did this experiment with several mediums, and they were in the basement of this 1700s farmhouse, and they would talk to spirits on the other side, and things would materialize like out of the blue, keys, coins. Is really, yeah, stuff like that. I'll get the name of it, and I'll send it to you. And so I had the documentarian on this show. I think we're releasing it this weekend. So all this stuff's showing up. And the most amazing thing was a newspaper, two newspapers, I think, from the 1940s materialized out of thin air. Now they're they're recording all this stuff. There's nobody in the rooms and and on the paper, on the front page, was a story about a psychic who, during World War Two, was tried to give information about the German plans to the bridge, and they thought she was nuts, and they put her in jail, and she was one of the spirits with whom they were communicating on the other side. So she materialized this 1940s paper. They had it tested, and it was 1940s Inc, and it was original. And, yeah, I mean, it was, it was wild. So I was telling, I do a my angelic attendant training, my big graduate class, I do a monthly get together. And I was telling them about this. And so one of my grads, Alex, that night, she wanted to watch the documentary on YouTube, and she turned it on. I had talked to him about it earlier in the day. It was a Saturday night. She said she was home alone, just just, it was just her and her dog, and she had one of those sinks in her powder room. That's just a bowl. She turned it on. It was playing for two minutes, and her sink exploded into a billion pieces. So she's on the phone with me going, what the heck is going on here? And I said your vibration was so high from when we were all together in the graduate group here earlier this afternoon, and then the vibration of the documentary and those mediums that were in there combined with your vibration it she sent me pictures. I mean, it was in a billion pieces, and she said it was just the freakiest thing ever. So she's on the phone with me. She called her husband and and then she called me, and she's like, What the heck is going on? I said it was just a you just raised your vibrational level. And you know those glass sinks, they're about a half an inch or an inch thick. A lot of them the glass. It's not fragile. Oh no, no, no, no, yeah. So she got it replaced, and she's watched it again, and it, you know, it hasn't exploded, but, but I think that's the that's a great example of the power of this energy that we have, especially when we do it collectively. You know, we do have the power to heal. We do have the power to help relieve grief and anxiety and things like that. Nobody ever heals anybody else. We help them heal themselves, and they'll match our frequency when our frequency is high, and that helps them heal themselves.

Alex Ferrari 53:08
That's beautiful. I mean, I've, I've been dealing with a lot of different energies, just by the nature of the job I have, talking to weirdos like yourself, and I say that with all the love in the world. No, but speaking to people that have these energies, channelers, and then psychic mediums and things like that, they do have a it does, does something to you. I've been in the room with channelers where I'm just, I'm a mess, and then I've been sometimes I'm like, I'm completely energized by being in the in the presence of whoever they're channeling. So it's there's something visceral about it. I don't, I can't explain it particularly.

Julie Ryan 53:48
But we all do it. We all know that we're doing it. But every author, every composer, every painter, every director, every movie director, Alex, like you, every screenwriter, every I mean, we're all channeling all day long. We're channeling which way to go, what to wear, what it's all channeling. We just don't realize it.

Alex Ferrari 54:12
And when you say channeling, you're channeling from your higher self, essentially.

Julie Ryan 54:15
Channeling from your higher self and from others as well. There, there are stories about Tesla talking to somebody or somebody else. One of my favorite quotes. Back to the prayer and meditation thing comes from St Augustine, and he says, When you sing, you pray twice. That's ancient. And I love that. And so I think all of those composers who have lyrics to their songs, and so many of the songs, the lyrics are so full of messages from spirit. I use a lot of songs, and we study the lyrics in my trainings, because it's just spirit communicating to us. Through a multitude of different ways.

Alex Ferrari 55:02
Yeah. I mean, you pick up Autobiography of a Yogi, and you just start to read it. There's a there's an energy to it. There's old ancient books that you start to read and you just like you feel it. You feel the power of the words combined together. It's, it's very interesting. It's very, very interesting, Julie, to say the least. Now, before, before we go, I wanted to kind of talk about something, a few other things before we go, about what's happening in the world today. Specifically, there has been a there's been a lot of in the news. There's been a lot of spiritual leaders who have started to there's things that come up about them. Specifically, who is a very big I mean, he is like the father of spirituality in many, in many ways, of wellness and spirituality in the West. I mean, he really introduced a lot to the west. He did a lot of good. Let's just put it that way. He opened up a lot of doors for people. You know was him and Wayne Dyer and those kind of guys when they were coming up that were really opening up spirituality in a lot of new age ideas, metaphysical ideas and so on. So on one hand, we'll use Mr. Chopra as an example that he, he did a lot of good in his career, but yet, behind the scenes, apparently he's and because he's on the and the things that I read about, what he actually said is pretty disturbing, right? So it's kind of like a it's a dichotomy, which is a human being, a human being is, by the way, the same thing. You have two sides to you, but this is a very different thing. These are people who have been put up on pedestals. These are people put up on altars, if you will, to you know that they are better. They know something that we don't, or something like that. And they seem to be coming crashing down. John of God was another one of those. OSHA with that documentary, wild wild country on Netflix, that was a, you know, an amazing documentary about it might have been skewed in one way, shape or form, because there's a lot of good and they were actual spirit, like kids OSHA specifically, his teachings are profound, and there's millions of people around the world that still follow him and go to mosques, not mosque or churches, or, you know, you know what I'm talking about, temples that with his with him and his teachings about it. So it's really weird, because when you're when you're when you're a guy twiddling your mustache as the trains coming, you've tied up the lady on the train tracks. That's easy to understand. That's extremely black or white, but this is extremely gray. It's not gray in what they did or how they acted, but there's two sides to this, because they did do good, they did help, but they still fell, and still fell to these more human aspects of this experience. So from spirit's point of view, what? What do they have to say about this?

Julie Ryan 58:03
Every saint has a past, and every sinner has a future. First of all,

Alex Ferrari 58:07
Oh, great. Oh, I love that. That's on a t shirt. We're putting that on a t shirt,

Julie Ryan 58:12
And we're here having the human experience. We are spirits here having the human experience. And we need right and wrong, good and bad, evil and good in our human experience, because it helps us create, as I mentioned before, if everything was just hunky, hunky all the time, we wouldn't have any incentive to create anything new. And that's how we expand, not only as an individual, as a spirit, but also collectively. And so I think this is a great example of people having the opportunity to get in tune with their own discernment. If something doesn't feel right, even though some big guru who's the like spiritual leader of whatever is saying it, then it, then follow your gut, follow your intuition. It gives us all an opportunity to pay attention to that. And and humans are faulted. They're faulty. We grow from that. Every time somebody goes through something and they regret it, you know, they grow from it. So putting somebody on a pedestal is the first thing that you don't want to do, because no matter who it is, because everybody's human. The thing that I've heard so many times from spirit Alex is in heaven, in spirit, pure spirit. There's no right or wrong, there's no good or bad. It's just an experience, and we create out of every experience that's hard for me to understand. As a human in this day and age, I can intellectually go there, but it just doesn't make sense to me. Me, although the more I've heard it, the more I'm like, Okay, is it feasible? Yeah. Well, I understand it when I'm back in heaven, yeah. So that's the position that I go into. So you look at somebody that's doing something just horrific, and we think, Oh, they're gonna, you know, they need to be hung in the courtyard by their toenails, whatever. What I've heard from spirit is they're saying, Oh, this is going to be interesting. You know, what's this going to create? How's Alex going to get out of this predicament? What's going to happen with the other people that are being affected? What changes are going to happen that are going to be to the betterment of humanity and to the collective, and they're looking at it from a different perspective. In Kabbalistic healing, which I studied for three years, you've got that balance of the light in the dark, yin and yang. You know, same thing. You've got both, and we need both in order to create. So I think it's a great analogy to use what's happening with some of these spiritual teachers. Now, with what's happened with cultures and religions over the millennia, you got good, you got bad. You create more good when you know what the bad is, and it helps you move forward,

Alex Ferrari 1:01:20
Similar to what's happened with the Catholic Church. Let's go back to the Catholic Church. I mean, when you and I were growing up, it was infallible. There was no issues at all, at least that's, I mean, there was none, you know, as the Pope's the Pope, God sakes the Pope. Yeah, we're, well, obviously, in the last 30 years or more, some things have been brought out to to the public, of things that were going on, yeah, and arguably, still probably are going on in one way, shape or form, in that organization, and the cover ups and all that kind of stuff. So that kind of started to disillusion. A lot of disillusionment happened after that, and that's when all, all religions, all organizations. I don't get me started on how there's fast food companies who are allowed to sell the food that they sell to human beings. It's right. I just, you know. So there it's everywhere. It's everywhere in every organization and every every kind of organization in the world, and being a spiritual leader, there's no exception to you. In many ways, you are human. You're going to go through human things, whether you choose to go down. They have the capability Yogananda. I use Yogananda a lot because he was a reference point of someone we actually filmed and have audio of, and he was a walking master of his day. He went, you know, he they was, he was run out of town, death threats, all these kind of things. And he yet still had to deal with being human,

Julie Ryan 1:02:53
Right

Alex Ferrari 1:02:53
And but he chose not to go down certain paths, as many spiritual leaders and many spiritual gurus don't do but there's some who didn't do that work and fall into those traps again. You know, fame is a really, really weird thing, very weird thing.

Julie Ryan 1:03:11
Well, my, my favorite mortal sin used to be eat meat on Friday. You know, used to be that when I was growing up, you couldn't eat meat on Friday period. It was just, it was just a really bad sin if you ate meat on Friday, and then it was, they changed it to just lent. You know, you just couldn't eat meat on Friday during Lent. We're filming this during Lent right now. And as a kid, I thought, God doesn't care if I'm eating meat or if I'm eating a hot dog or I'm eating a, you know, fish sandwich. Why would God care about that? And then I learned, okay, it was a sanitary thing from back, back in Jesus's day, and it made a lot of sense. So I laugh now, and I think, God bless all those poor souls that are burning in hell because they meet on Friday before they change the rule. And now it doesn't matter. You know? I mean, what happens with that? It just doesn't make any sense. So we need to keep our brains working and our own BS meters working, and that goes to spiritual leaders too, and to psychics and mediums and healers that channelers. You know, if it doesn't feel right to you, if something feels off, trust that go with that only work with people that say you know that you're listening to and you resonate. You think, oh, this person sounds credible. This person sounds like they're on the up and up. I don't care how many places they've been tested for their psychic abilities. That doesn't mean anything. It's how are you personally resonating with that individual, whether you're with them in person or whether you're just listening to them on a podcast or on a on a show like this, on a network or on a YouTube thing, pay attention. To how it feels for you. It don't matter what everybody else thinks. How does it feel to you?

Alex Ferrari 1:05:06
George Carlin had this great joke, the Great, the late great, George Carlin, he's like, and he was talking about meat on Fridays, yeah. And he's like, how many people are pissed off for doing time for the meat wrap? I mean, now it's, we're cool with it, but all those other poor souls that went down to hell. So there's so many holes in the in the story, in the plot of what the story that that the church had given us over the years,

Julie Ryan 1:05:35
Commit adultery was just for women. It wasn't for the men. The men had a bunch of wives, and the what the cattle was worth more than the wife was. So it was just, I think we need to keep our discernment about ourselves, and I love that you're putting these documentaries on your network that really look at the scholars that have studied this stuff, and we're saying, Okay, well, those pieces of the puzzle don't go together, but it's just you hear it enough, you just believe it, and then it's repeated throughout the millennia, and then it just becomes something that's that so called Truth, when in essence, it's not,

Alex Ferrari 1:06:18
Oh, I mean, yeah. I mean, I talked for hours. One of my favorite, my favorite topics, is to talk about the original, the original ideas of Christ, and what happened to it, from the Gnostics to the Rosicrucians. And then, of course, the Council of nice and all the other councils that built a story. And why did some books get lost and reincarnation wasn't there? But then we had to pull that out and all this stuff, and the story of Paul. And when I discovered it was Aaron abke who came on the show, and he introduced me to this idea, I never even thought of Paul. I always thought same thing. I always thought Paul was an apostle. Paul was never an apostle. Never met Jesus. Yeah, right, but most people don't know that, because after it was over 100 it was over 100 years after he died. It was, it was fascinating in in that whole idea and who and and I think Aaron said this so beautifully. Once he said that no one ever leaves Christianity because of Jesus's teachings. And I was like, Whoa, that's so true. They leave because of Paul, because Paul's the one that put all the dogma in Paul is to put all that, all that, all them, all the all the pudding, he's the one that put it in. And if it wasn't Paul, it was his, his disciple. Between the two of them, they were, I think they wrote 60 to 70% of the New Testament between the two of them. And they never met Jesus, you know. So it's just fascinating, fascinating to go down these roads. Julie, before we go, I have to ask you, because you're a psychic and all where the world is getting crazier. It seems like we are amplifying every year from 2020 on every year has gotten more insane in the next this year is no different from 2026 the beginning of 2026 every month has been like, are it's just, what, what? What date is it? How much stuff has happened? We've got, we've gone into so now we're, you know, the wars are happening in the Middle East. You know, the top thing that's trending is world war three coming up. You know, people are scared. People are, you know, really trying to figure out what's going on. And we're just talking about the political and the world wars and things that the wars are going around in the world. But there's so many other things, you know, from the economy gold being at like, $5,000 an ounce, right? It was, it was 150 when I was in high school. It's gone insane. So so many different things seem to be going on with AI and and food, and people starting to wake up to what's happening with the food in the world, and the food supply and governments and companies and all of this stuff. What do you see, my dear, for the rest of 2026 and the next few years after is when are we going to be over the hump of this insanity?

Julie Ryan 1:09:09
Well, certainly, we're shattering a lot of the old and you got to shatter in order for new things to come in. I had a girlfriend who when I was in my 20s, was in her 40s and and I love this analogy, and I think it it pertains to this conversation. She said that guy you're dating, he's Kool Aid. I'd say, okay, she goes Kool Aid. You know, smells good, looks good, tastes good, cheap. You can easily accessible. How do you expect God to fill your bucket with champagne. If it's full of Kool Aid, you got to empty the Kool Aid first. So in the isn't that great? In that's amazing vein, we've got to shatter the old ways. What's not working? You know? What? Where? P where are people being per. Executed. Where are things, you know? Where can we make them better in order for the new to come in? I also am witnessing the zeitgeist changing very much in that people are becoming and we talked about this earlier in this conversation, people are becoming way more spiritual in their everyday lives, whether they blend that with organized religion or meditation or whatever. It's amazing to me, the people that are my clients, I have fortune 500 executives that run publicly traded massive corporations. I've got housewives. I've got people from all walks of life and to what we discussed earlier as well. I think a lot of the people that are dying off that didn't have any room for this, their their offspring, their spawn, if you will, are all they're they're engaging in this. Anybody that I talk to when they hear I'm a psychic medium and a medical intuitive, they'll go, oh, well, you got to prove it to me. And I'll say, Well, no, really, I don't. I can talk to you about whatever you'd like. You want to talk about football, the weather, latest, greatest, restaurant, whatever. They'll say, no, no, no, I want to. I want to hear. What are you doing? So they're interested. Their initial response is, ooh, that's not that's evil, or that's not good, evil. The Bible and all the holy texts are the angel talked to whoever you know, Moses is talking from a burning bush. You know? I mean all these different symbols Jesus is is hearing from God, the Jesus, the gospel. Last Sunday was about the transfiguration, and Elijah and Moses showed up, and the apostles saw him with Jesus. And I'm going, Oh, okay, so spirits are showing up in the Bible, and the apostles can see them, you know? I mean, this stuff is all there, yeah, it's just a matter of each generation comes in with a higher vibration level. Toddlers know how to use my iPhone better than I do, and they're not even talking in sentences yet. So each generation comes in more advanced, their frequency is higher. I think the frequency of the world is rising, and I think that people are less tolerant of abuses that have been going on. And we have a 24/7, news cycle. And so when it gets to be overwhelming, turn it off, because the news is, if it bleeds, it leads, it's it's always going to be the most horrific story is going to be the first story, because they get eyeballs to watch the story, to listen to click. And it's all about money. The more eyeballs, the more they can charge for their ads. Their revenue goes up, it's all about the bottom line. So just turn it off and know that everything's expanding and it's it's all unfolding perfectly, even in the tough times, because there's good that comes out of every situation.

Alex Ferrari 1:13:15
This is obviously going to continue to get a little bit more shaky as we continue to go because we're not done expanding.

Julie Ryan 1:13:23
We ever will be,

Alex Ferrari 1:13:24
I know, but you mean like, but this stage is, in other words, like we It can't rain all the time, as it can be sunny all the time. Even in Los Angeles, it does rain every once in a while. So even though this seems like this is a thunderstorm and a storm is the storms do pass, but they could take a while. And what we're going through right now is a storm. There's no question. We felt it since 2020 really, and it's been going on since 2012 or even, if you want to go as far back as y 2k, you know, great example. You know, we've, you know, the world's been coming in for quite some time now, but, but there's, but it's since 2020. It's been visceral, really visceral in the world, and it's been getting more and more intense. So a lot of people are really terrified of where we're all going to go. And a lot of people feel like, oh, my god, is this the end and we're going to finish it? My take on it, Julie, is that there are guardrails up for us. Yeah, we should have blown ourselves up 1000 different ways in the last 100 years, we've had the technology since the bomb was created. There is moments that we've gotten real close. There's miraculous stories of how we should have someone should have touched the button and they didn't, and should have launched the world war three, but happened to just said there was one dude that said, Nope, we're not doing that. Yeah, you know. And so that tells me that there's somebody, something watching us, and there are guardrails to protect us. So like you guys can play, and you could do what you need to do, but. You're not going to go past these, these, these lines that we've laid out, and we will make sure that you don't destroy yourselves. Because arguably, what seriously, let me ask you the question, why haven't we destroyed ourselves yet? What is the real purpose that we have? Because we should have during the 80s, during the 60s.

Julie Ryan 1:15:16
It goes back to what we've been talking about, Alex, you know, you think of the lady of justice statue, what she's got, she's balanced. You go back to yin and yang. They're balanced. The Good, the Bad, you go back to everything. The cop out. The Kabbalah is ancient. All cultures have this, and that's how we create the nuclear energy that's created. It's an explosion that happens. That's when new things are created. And so if we can come up with a way to kind of stay in the middle a little and say, Okay, I can see this point, and I can see that point, and I understand that we need to have these two different points in order for a new point to come in that's going to benefit everybody. I think it really helps a lot. It helps me with this Iran thing that's going on right now. Yes, it's horrific, and yes, I have a friend who's Iranian, who's a woman whose family is there, and they are thrilled, and they're thrilled that the persecution of all the women there is over, hopefully, because they haven't been able to go to school, they haven't been able to do a lot of things. She had, she knew somebody who had, I think it's a cousin who had acid thrown in her face because she didn't have her head dress, hijab, or whatever they call it on, right, and the woman is blind in one eye, and so I see both sides of the equation, and I know that good stuff is coming out of it. So I think if we can focus on using our imaginations to envision what we want, instead of envisioning what we don't want and suffering over something that we've imagined, that isn't even happened or may never happen, that that's just a it's a more joyful, easier, more productive way to go through life. Use your imagination to envision what you want, and then you have the power of thought and the power of intention, like the power of prayer. There are all kinds of scientific studies that have been run where I had Lynn McTaggart on the show twice, and she's run experiments with some of the best, most prestigious universities in the world, and they have, she calls it the power of eight, and they'll have a group of eight people, and they'll focus on seeds on the other side of the world and some lab someplace, and the seeds that they're focusing on, the C set of seeds, grow bigger, stronger, faster than all the other Seeds. That's just one example of the experiments that she's participated in. And so the power of prayer, the power of thought, the power of intention, has an energy to it. So focus on what you want instead of stressing over what you don't want and imagining things that you don't want to happen.

Alex Ferrari 1:18:20
Beautifully said, Julie, beautifully said, so tell me you have, you have a school coming up, right? Or a class?

Julie Ryan 1:18:26
Have a training. Yes, it's called angelic attendant training. I do it twice a year, and the next one is going to be online via zoom. It's a weekend, and I teach the whole buffet of psychicness, so you learn how to do the medical intuition and energy healing. Communicate with any spirit what happens when somebody's dying? How to how to be able to tell how close to death they are. See the angels and deceased loved ones, spirits that are around them, past lives, remote viewing, all of that. It is such a blast, Alex, and that's going to be May 16 and 17th online. So information at askjulieryan.com and also anybody that wants a free copy of my angelic attendance book. And this is what happens as somebody's dying, and it comes with illustrations, so we show where the angels are positioned and stuff like that. Everybody goes through the 12 phases. And we've talked about that on past episodes, where if somebody wants to hear more about it, they can watch one of your past episodes when I was on and had the privilege of being on. So anybody who wants a free copy, just go to askjulieryan.com there's a button there you push, we'll send you a free digital and audio book version, and we have them in Spanish as well. If somebody wants that. I think this stuff should be taught the schools.

Alex Ferrari 1:19:43
Yeah, I agree. And also, some of your other books are on Next Level Soul TV as well, books so people can if they want to go deep down the Julie Ryan rabbit hole. We have some content there. And one of my favorite books, one of my one of. My favorite books you've written is this one angel messages for truth, the two minute rule. These, these beautiful children's books you've written. They're just so, so beautifully illustrated, beautifully done. So they should have those. Check those out as well you were gonna say?

Julie Ryan 1:20:14
I do have an announcement to make that has nobody's heard this yet. We have a phone app coming out the next few weeks, gonna be the Ask Julie Ryan phone app. You'll be able to download it on your phone or on your computer and and as part one of the features, we're gonna call it spirit chat. And so you upload a one minute video, that's a question for me, and then I'll answer it with a one minute video. Back to you, so Alex, you're, you're on the app, and you're going, Hey Julie, my cat's got a, you know, sore left par, what's going on. And then I'll, I'll answer you back, and I'll say, oh, Alex, I scanned your cat, and here's what's happening. So we're really excited about that. Yeah, and lots of other, lots of other stuff on there.

Alex Ferrari 1:21:03
That's awesome. That's awesome. Julie, it is always a pleasure having you on the show. We have a couple things that you and I are going to be working on in the future, that we're going to be bringing out to next level soul to the audience. So everyone Keep it. Keep an eye out for that. And then, of course, go to your website and check out everything else you're doing. You're an amazing, amazing person, and I love talking to you, and I love collaborating with you, and I love the work that you're doing. So thank you for everything you're doing to help awaken this, this planet. So thank you.

Julie Ryan 1:21:34
Same right. Back at you little brother. He's my little brother. Everybody you knew that, right? We look a lot like Don't you think?

Alex Ferrari 1:21:42
I appreciate it big sis, we'll talk soon.

Julie Ryan 1:21:44
Alrighty, bye, bye, bye, everybody!