Yvonne Kason MD, MEd, CCFP, FCFP is a Canadian Family Physician and Transpersonal MD-Psychotherapist, (retired), author of 6 books, public speaker, originator of the term “Spiritually Transformative Experience” (STE), and STE Researcher.
Dr. Kason has had five Near-Death Experiences, and multiple STE experiences. She was previously on faculty at the University of Toronto, Faculty of Medicine. She is an internationally renowned medical expert in the field of Spiritually Transformative Experiences, Near-Death Experiences, and Kundalini Awakenings, who is in demand as a media resource and keynote speaker.
In 1994, Dr. Kason originated and coined the phrase, “Spiritually Transformative Experiences”, (STEs), in her ground-breaking book, A Farther Shore. She defined STE as an umbrella term to include diverse spiritual experiences including: Mystical Experiences; Kundalini/Spiritual Energy Awakenings; Psychic Experiences of all types; Near-Death Experiences; Other Death-Related STEs; and Inspired Creativity. Dr. Kason elaborated on all types of Spiritually Transformative Experiences in her more recent books, Farther Shores: (2000, 2008), and Touched by the Light: Exploring Spiritually Transformative Experiences, (2019).
After a powerful out-of-body and mystical/white light Near-Death Experience in a 1979 medevac plane crash, Dr. Kason went on a quest to understand spiritual and paranormal experiences happening to people today. This later propelled her, in 1990, to become the first Canadian medical doctor to specialize in the counseling and research of persons having Near-Death Experiences and other Spiritually Transformative Experiences.
A pioneer in the field, in 1990 she co-founded the Kundalini Research Network, and in 2000, Dr. Kason co-founded the Spirituality in Health-Care Network.
In her latest books, Touched by the Light, and Soul Lessons from the Light, she describes four other Near-Death Experiences she had, two in her childhood, and two more recent NDEs in her adult life.
November 8, 2003, Dr. Yvonne Kason suffered a serious Traumatic Brain Injury and Near-Death Experience in a slip and fall accident and subsequently became disabled. Despite intensive neuro-rehabilitation, she was no longer able to practice medicine, public speak, or write books. She retired from the practice of medicine in 2006.
Much to Dr. Kason’s surprise and delight, on February 24, 2016, she experienced “a miracle” healing while deeply meditating at the Self-Realization Fellowship (SRF) meditation retreat in Encinitas, California. With an eruption of inner light in the center of her brain, she had a dramatic spontaneous brain healing. In the first year after this sudden healing, she wrote the first draft of two new books, Touched by the Light (published 2019) and Soul Lessons from the Light (published 2022).
After her brain healing in 2016, Dr. Kason resumed writing, public speaking, and volunteer work on non-profit Boards focused on raising global awareness about Spiritually Transformative Experiences and our true spiritual nature. In 2019, Dr. Yvonne Kason was elected President of IANDS, the International Association for Near-Death Studies (2019 to 2020). In 2019, she also co-founded and now continues to lead “The Toronto Awakenings Sharing Group.”
In 2020, Dr. Yvonne Kason founded Spiritual Awakenings International (SAI), a non-profit educational organization, in collaboration with founder Robert Bare Ph.D. Spiritual Awakenings International’s mission is to raise awareness globally about Spiritually Transformative Experiences of all types, to promote networking and sharing between like-minded groups and individuals, and to be an information resource and safe harbor for STE Experiencers. In 2021, Dr. Kason led SAI to launch annual SAI online conferences and launch the popular Spiritual Awakenings International YouTube Channel, sharing videos of all SAI presentations to spread STE awareness further globally.
Currently, Dr. Yvonne Kason is the active President of Spiritual Awakenings International. She is also writing books and research articles and appears regularly as an NDE and STE expert speaker and featured presenter on radio and TV talk show, international podcasts, documentaries, and on other media. Dr. Kason has been recognized for her pioneering and groundbreaking work coining and raising awareness about Spiritually Transformative Experiences as an Honoree on the Spiritual Awakenings International Circle of Honor.
Dr. Yvonne Kason is a mother and grandmother and a devoted long-time practitioner of yoga meditation. She speaks three languages, English, German, and French. Dr. Kason resides in Toronto, Canada, and enjoys snowbirding in Encinitas, California, and Florida, USA.
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Dr. Yvonne Kason 0:00
Before the plane hit the ground. And so the plane still going down. And all of a sudden I started feeling it was like a force field of peace that was descending upon me. And it literally was pushing down my fear. And I felt this incredible sense of calm and the peace. And then I heard a voice in my mind and it was a masculine voice. And I've never heard an inner voice before this point in my life. And the voice very clearly spoke. Be still and know that I am God.
Alex Ferrari 0:42
I'd like to welcome to the show, Dr. Yvonne Kason. How you doin, Dr. Yvonne?
Dr. Yvonne Kason 0:55
I'm doing just great. Thanks so much.
Alex Ferrari 0:57
Thank you so much for coming on the show, my dear it is you've had a an interesting life, to say the least. So far, and you've you've had five near death experiences, which we'll talk about a few of them. In this conversation. First question, I have to say the first thing I have to say to you is, what are you doing? Stop it. I mean, you die way too much in one lifetime. Generally, you get the one, you've done five already, you're getting greedy.
Dr. Yvonne Kason 1:23
I look at it completely differently. I look at it as a blessing. I look at it as a blessing that I've been on the other side five times. And I look at it as it was part of the divine plan for my life. Because Spirit, called me this incarnation to be a pioneer, the first Canadian medical doctor to specialize in counseling people who've had near death experiences and other spiritually transformative experiences. And how spirit got me to do that was by giving me these experiences so that I knew firsthand, they're not crazy that they're very, very real. And in fact, they're positively transforming. They're not mental illness or some of the other things that they're mislabeled as
Alex Ferrari 2:10
Well, first question, what was your life like? Before your your not your first near death experience? Because I know this when you were children,
Dr. Yvonne Kason 2:18
When I was five was my first near death experience.
Alex Ferrari 2:21
But you didn't know they were near death experiences, correct?
Dr. Yvonne Kason 2:24
No, I didn't I you know, as a child, you don't have a sense of what is paranormal or what everybody else experiences. So both my childhood near death experiences one at age five, and one at age 11. I never classified them as paranormal. They were just like, stuff that happened to me. And for all I knew the same sort of things were happening to everybody else. And it was only maybe about five years ago, that when I was actually preparing a presentation on my adult near death experiences, because by that time, I'd had three, something kept niggling in my consciousness to look at those childhood experiences and count how many near death experience features they had. You know, that's how you sort of count up how many features Yep, it has enough features that counts as a near death experience. And I was shocked and surprised that, oh my goodness, both these childhood experiences, they qualify as near death experiences and like, somehow, you know, it never connected in my consciousness till five years ago, that that's what they were.
Alex Ferrari 3:29
So Alright, so let's talk about when when you after 11 to your first near death experience, where you as an adult, were you spiritual? What was your life like prior to you realizing you had near death experiences?
Dr. Yvonne Kason 3:45
I think I was influenced by them and didn't realize that even as a teenager. So for example, take that, for example, because I now know as an afterthought, from my five year old, near death experience, I started having out of body experiences, but I didn't know they were out of body experiences. I didn't have a label for that, as a little kid, I thought I could fly. And I couldn't figure out what I would try to do it. It wouldn't work. And when I had such clear memory of what I thought was flying, so now I know those are out of body experiences. So my consciousness was already starting to open to the spiritual and paranormal, but I didn't realize it. And then as an 11 year old when I had my second childhood near death experience, the after effect of that experience was that I could see ghosts, I could see spirits, which we now know is a very common after effect of near death experiences that people get mediumistic ability so even when I was a teenager, although I had not categorized these experiences is anything spiritual or paranormal? I think it it caused me to be more open minded. And even as a teenager, I was very I'm interested in alternative worldviews and you know, my big idols when I was a teenager, The Beatles, you know, when they went to India, and and so I started getting interested even at that age and learning about yoga about Eastern philosophy, I was raised a Christian. I loved the teachings about love, but I didn't necessarily agree with all the dogma. So I was like that already, even before I had my first adult near death experience. But when I had my first adult near death experience, which actually happened at the age of 23, because it 23 Sorry, that wasn't near death experience, it was my at first adult, spiritually transformative experience. I had what I now realize was a kundalini awakening with a mystical experience. And, you know, hardly anybody knows about Kundalini awakening today, imagine. Nobody heard Hakuna Illini awakening, I had taken a meditation course at university. I was in medical school in my last year. And this course, you know, they advertise it help you relax, be calm, so you can study better and do better on your exam. So I was studying for my final medical school exams, I thought, Great, I'll take this course I'll I'll be able to get better marks on my exams. And when I took this meditation course, I felt natural, like it was a fit. And I now think that's like past life memories, I've meditated in many past lives. Because I immediately loved it. I started meditating for almost an hour in the morning, hour in the evening. And after about three months of doing that I had this experience while I was meditating, of hearing this loud, inner roaring sound like, like the roar of waterfalls, and I felt this really strong, rise in energy go up my body, and my consciousness slipped up out of my body, but it expanded to. And no, I was no longer like the size of me. But I felt like I was now filling this vast expanse of fit space. And then I started feeling this incredible feeling of love. You have the word love, behind your head there in the background. I just felt this incredible love. And I mean, I didn't know any better. I was young. I thought, Oh, this is what everyone experiences when they meditate. And I finally got my technique, right. And I remember thinking, Oh, Wow, no wonder people love to meditate. This is so incredible. So I stayed in that expansive state of love until my meditation ended. And then my consciousness contracted back down. And much to my surprise and disappointment, I wasn't able to replicate that each time that I meditated. But this was beginning now to open my consciousness even further as I look back, because you say what was I like before I had my first adult near death experience. So this was when I was 23. And I started having these unusual bodily symptoms that that that I now know are related to an active Kundalini because once the Kundalini begins once it has its first awakening, it continues to some degree for the rest of your life, particularly if you're stimulating it through meditating. And I was I was still meditating every day. And I was feeling these rushes of energy up my spine, I could see feel swirls of energy in my body, like particularly at my chakra points, you know, the energy points along the font, the spine, I started noticing that I was becoming more intuitive that I could pick up on other people's feelings, like I now would know whether they were saying the truth or not, because I could feel it in my body. So so unusual things were happening to me, but you know, I was a medical student and I had to focus on my exam. So I tried to push this out of my mind as much as I could. But then when I was finishing my residency when I was 26, is when I had my first adult near death experience in a medivac plane crash.
Alex Ferrari 9:08
Let's dive into that no pun intended. That near death experience, my dear, what I what happened, like generally plane crashes you don't walk away from so I'm dying to hear no pun intended. What happened?
Dr. Yvonne Kason 9:24
Well, this happened in northern Ontario, Canada. I was assigned to work as part of my residency training for a month in northern Ontario with the Native Indian communities. And on this particular day, I was assigned on a medivac by small airplane so it was a very small twin engine propeller plane called a Piper Aztec to do a medivac of a critically ill Native Indian woman from where I was in a small community hospital in a place called Sioux Lookout. We were was to accompany her to the largest nearby hospital which was Winnipeg, which was about an hour away by plane. And so the patient was very critically ill just so you know, she was intubated with a tube into her airway, which he had this bag that I had to be compressing an Ambu bag to keep her breathing she had intravenous is in both arms that the nurse was tending to the intravenous is. And the patient, the nurse myself and the oxygen tank, we filled the plane that was how small the plane was. And then in front of us was the pilot and the copilot seat, of course, there was a pilot and the oxygen tank was in the copilot seat. So it's a little tiny, little twin propeller plane. Anyway, as we were flying in the air, I was tending to the patient, I wasn't really, you know, looking so much at what the pilot was doing. But if you've ever been in a propeller airplane, you know, the motors are really loud, and you can hear them. And so I was only like, you know, 10 feet from each of the motors. So I could really hear the noise of both of the motors. All of a sudden, I could hear that the noise from one of the engines had stopped. And the propeller was like sputtering to a stop when I looked out the window and I shout out to the pilot what's going on what's going on. And there he is, you know, he's pushing levers pulling things doing stuff like you could tell he was like desperately trying to get the engine going again. And you have to remember this so small, I was like, right, right behind him, I could see everything he was doing. And but he managed to get that engine going again, thank goodness. And then so I went back to tend to the patient. And then a few minutes later, all of a sudden I heard the left engine, the opposite engine, sputter to a stop. And again, I'm going like what's going on what's going on. And again, he the pilot was pulling levers pushing stuff, trying to get the engine going. And then then the right one cocked again, so that we had no engines going. Now, my reaction, immediate was probably what most people's reaction would be was like immediate, intense fear and panic. And I remember because the plane was going down. And we were in a snowstorm with salt flown into a really bad snowstorm. And there was really heavy winds and the plane if you want to know what it's like when a plane is crashing, it's like really severe turbulence, like the worst turbulence I'd ever been in. And the plane was bouncing like crazy going down to the ground, the pilots trying to steer it to try and get us not to crash into trees, he was trying to guide us he was trying to do a wheel set belly landing onto the surface of a frozen lake to avoid us being killed crashing into trees, but my immediate reaction was intense fear and panic. And I remember it just left out of my heart like a reflex like oh, God, I'm gonna die. And that thought, and I guess that is close enough to a prayer because that is when my near death experience started. It was actually before the plane hit the ground. And so the plane still going down. And all of a sudden I started feeling it was like a force field of peace that was descending upon me. And it literally was pushing down my fear. And I felt this incredible sense of calm and the peace. And then I heard a voice in my mind and it was a masculine voice. And I've never heard an inner voice before this point in my life. And the voice very clearly spoke. Be still and know that I am God. I am with you now, and always. And with those words, there was just this incredible, I guess mystical sensation of peace that just permeated me I was still fully conscious. The plane had not crashed. I then turned and I started comforting the patient because she'd woken up and she was looking at me with these really terrified eyes. And I said to her somehow with absolute knowing it to be true. It's going to be okay. And I meant that it's going to be okay whether we lived or died like because at that point I had no idea what the outcome was, but I knew somehow in my soul, that no matter what happened, it was going to be okay. Well, the pilot really heroically and he was commended afterwards did manage to avoid crashing into the trees he did. With the wheels up do a belly landing onto a partially frozen lake. But when the plane stopped skating on the ice and came to a thought a stock the weight of the plane very rapidly broke the Thin Ice nosedived and then sunk into very, very deep water. So we all had to get out of the plane while the plane was rapidly sinking. If I managed to pull the nurse and the patient out, sorry, the nurse out and together, she and I tried to pull the patient out, but we were not able to do that she was wedged in the doorway of the plane, when the plane nosedived and went down, the pilot went out the other door. And then, you know, I looked around and to evaluate my situation, and I saw that we had crashed, and the plane had sunk right at the edge of ice right by open water between us and the closest shore. So the closest land which was an island was maybe 200 yards away. And what was separating me and us from the land was this open water with a strong fast moving current, it turns out that the place that I crashed is called Devil's gap on Lake of the Woods by Kenora. And it's called the devil's gap. Because of the really strong current that is treacherous, both in the summer and in the winter. In the winter, the ice doesn't freeze there, because of the strong current. So I heard the voice in my head again, and it said, swim to shore. And I remember, this is, you know, I was, shall we say, inexperienced with spiritual experiences in higher guidance, because when I remember I mentally argued with this voice. You know, I've taken lifeguarding they say you're not supposed to swim to shore, you're gonna drown if you swim. And the pilot wish I didn't shouting, try to get on the ice, try to get on the ice. And so instead of listening to my inner guidance, I turned away from the shore and I swam towards the ice, and I tried to get on the ice, while the ice was too thin. And it took a tremendous amount of struggle. And you have to remember this is in the winter. In Canada, it was below zero, I was in the middle of a blizzard, strong winds, I was wearing heavy winter coat heavy winter boots in the water, they were just carrying me down like dead weights. And it took a lot of energy, just trying to stay on on the surface, tried to get on the ice, but it would I could not get on the ice, it was too thin, the voice repeated swim to shore. And finally, the third time the boy said swim to shore, I finally stopped struggling and I turn and I started swimming to shore. Now it was a really long and a really difficult swim. And part way to swimming to shore is when my near death experience deepened. And what happened was, all of a sudden, I heard this whooshing roaring noise, again, similar to what I heard in the Kundalini awakening.
And then suddenly, I found my consciousness, maybe 20, or 30 feet above my body. And but you know, it's more complicated than that, because my body was still alive, my body was still trying to swim to shore. So it was actually like my consciousness was two places at the same time. And I compare it to like a split screen TV where you have the big image and you have a little tiny image, the big image of my consciousness, or most of my consciousness was up above my body, you know, maybe 20, or 30 feet above my body, but there was still the little image a little part of my consciousness that was in my physical body desperately trying to swim to shore at the same time, then what happened is the bulk of my consciousness went higher. And I went into this place or realm or a state of consciousness, it's hard to know what to call it. That was this incredible plate state round that was filled with his beautiful soft, white, light, soft, glistening, bright white light. It was a dark and stormy day in the world down below. But where I went to was this incredible, beautiful white light, which we now have heard about from other people and their death experiences. But back then I hadn't not heard about that. I've not read about near death experiences. And, but for me, the most profound part of that experience was not the light, but it was the love. It was the incredible, perfect, powerful, unconditional love that was just permeating me. I felt like I was home. I felt like this was where I belonged. And, and while I was in this realm of light, I just knew things not. I didn't like hear a voice explaining things to me No, nothing like that. Although I did for a second, I did see a face of light, a luminous face of light, and then it sort of shifted into the cloud like perimeter, but it's just somehow my soul absorbed or new new things and what my soul knew or remember, it's hard to say just knew is that I knew To that this incredible love that I was feeling was the love of the higher power, or what I had been raised to call God. And what I was experiencing God to be, was not anything like what I had been taught God supposedly was like, it was not like an old man with a long white beard sitting on a throne judging me if you've been good than bad, which is what I've been taught. But what I was actually experiencing was the higher power whatever name you want to call it, Allah Brahman, the force, I use the word God, that the higher power was like an infinitely intelligent, infinitely present, infinitely loving, force field. That's like interpenetrating all of reality, past present future. And, and I also knew while I was in the white light, somehow in my soul, I knew that whether my body that was still struggling to swim to shore below lived or died, really didn't matter, because me what I think of is me will continue to live on even if my body even if my body down there, doesn't manage to make it to shore. Welcome a whole bunch of coincidences, miracles, I talk about it all in my new book, Soul lessons from the light, which is my new memoir, a book that just came out. I talk about all the miracles that led to my rescue, but just I'm just going to cut the story a bit short, so we'll have time to get to some of my more recent near death experience, that heroic heroically, through a series of coincidences and miracles, it all unfolded that I was able to swim to shore I made it and so did the pilot that a helicopter by coincidence had touchdown about five miles from where we had crashed and by coincidence, there was an Air Canada plane directly over us that heard our made a message when we crashed rate relayed the message to the ground helicopter pilots who actually didn't even know each other they just met because they were grounded God in the helicopter looked for us, we're able to find us. And we're able to drive wrapped fliers to the closest hospital and I remember
Alex Ferrari 22:32
Well before you before you cut the the Near Death Experience short when you're in this other room. How did you come back to the body? How did that finish off?
Dr. Yvonne Kason 22:42
I'm about to tell you to tell you okay, because I'm still out of body and partly in my body throughout the rescue. You know, I'm watching from above as they land on the hospital driveway and the emergency staff come out with their stretchers and you know, put me on the stretcher they wheeled me in the emergency department. And then finally they resuscitated me because I was hypothermic, which means I was almost frozen to death. And I was a near drowning victim. And they warmed me they resuscitated me by rewarming my body by putting me in the hot whirlpool bath and the physiotherapy department. And it's there that I felt my consciousness reenter my body. And what that experience was, was like, it's like slough they depict on TV a genie being sucked into a bottle, I was just suddenly from this big expanse of space above my body, I was sucked in it felt like through the top of my head into the smaller confines of my physical body. And then I was back. And I remember saying is I'm rubbing my frozen hands against my legs in the hot water. I'm back, I'm back. I'm gonna live I'm gonna live. So that's how I re entered my body. Now, it took me a really long time to figure out what on earth this was, and to put a name to this experience. And I remember when I talked to I was off work for a couple months afterwards because of the frostbite and then you're drowning and everything. And I mean, the impact was so profound on me and it positive and spiritual. I just felt like I brought back some of the love with me. I was like, I was drunk with love and just oozing love. And I look at the squirrels playing on my front yard lawn, I feel waves for the squirrels or for children on the street. I just was oozing love. But I also came back with an enhanced capacity to forgive. Because my father and I had been feuding for many years, you know, as young people do. And we hadn't been speaking we weren't on good terms. And after this experience, I phoned up my dad and I said, Dad, I love you. Let's be friends. And we reconciled. And we had seven wonderful years of a loving father daughter relationship before he died, I'm so grateful. I feel it's like a gift from God that I got out of this near death experience that I had those seven precious years of relationship with my dad. And you see nothing about my dad had changed, he still had the, you know, whatever it was that used to bother me so much in his personality, it was I had changed. You know, those little things weren't important to me anymore. What was important to me, was the love that we shared. And, and, you know, the I had other changes after that experience, which I now know, of course, was my first adult near death experience. And one for sure was I absolutely lost my fear of death, because I absolutely knew that we will live on all of us, not just me, all of us, we will live on after we die. Secondly, I absolutely knew that the higher power was real no matter what name, we call it, whether we believe in it or not, it's real. Gravity, you might say, I don't believe in gravity, well, it's still real, it still works, whether you believe it or not. And doesn't matter what name we call the higher power, I came back with a very broad and spiritual perspective. I just got it, that all the world's religions were trying to understand the same one truth, but it was like climbing mountains from different angles, you know, so they were having different perspectives, depending on you know which angle they're climbing from. But once you get to the top, you all discover, oh, it's the same one source that we've all been trying to understand the same one peak realization of our true nature.
Alex Ferrari 26:48
So let me ask you, when you came back the psychological processing of this experience is that is one one question I have for you. And secondly, as you're saying, You're different. You came back with a different energy. What are the people around you, your friends, your colleagues, your family, you know, when you came out of this near death experience closet, or this new spiritual version of yourself? How did the world except you or reject you?
Dr. Yvonne Kason 27:16
Well, I would say, it forced me into the closet for about 12 years. Okay, so it did. Yeah, it did. Yeah. Cuz I tried to talk to people about what I'd experienced, but I just didn't get any understanding or validation or even support around me when I when I tried when I tried to talk to my medical colleagues. I mean, they all knew I wasn't crazy. But they'd listen. And they'd say, Well, you know, Elon must have been a hallucination you know, hallucination brought on by an electrolyte imbalance or a low blood sugar. And, and, you know, I knew as a medical doctor, I'd seen lots of people with low blood sugars and electrolyte imbalances. No, they did not have life changing spiritual experiences like this. And when I saw I learned to stop talking about it, and seemingly seemingly with that, the same with family and friends, like I just to be safe, I had to stop talking about it. So I became what I call a closet mystic. So I was in the closet, and I was leading a double life, that which was my outer life. You know, here I was, I was a medical doctor and I went into practice, I got a faculty position at the University Toronto, blah, blah, blah, you know, very successful medical career. My in the closet life in private was that I was a mystic and spiritual seeker. I mean, I was avidly meditating, I was reading every book I could find on mystical experiences out of body experiences near death experiences, psychic awakenings, kundalini awakening, from many different traditions. synchronistically, I traveled to India in 1977, with my meditation group, and I'd met Gopi Krishna, who had talked about Kundalini awakening and introduced me to the yogic model of consciousness. And so I found the yogic model of consciousness was actually the best model two that helped me understand what was happening to me, because I was I started having repeated experiences, different types of psychic phenomenon, sometimes mystical experiences, mystical visions, when I was meditating. And in the yogic model, this is understood that this is all part of our spiritual unfoldment process. And it was in the 80s that I first was introduced to the writings of Paramahansa Yogananda, which got me even a deeper understanding experiential understanding by following his meditation techniques. And the other the other source that really, really helped me believe it or not, was Patanjali Yoga Sutras because he has a whole chapter in there describing states of consciousness that can happen during your Spiritual awakening process. And I understand that I'm experiencing that. Yeah, I understand. I'm experiencing that. So I led this sort of double life. But something interesting was happening over these 10 to 12 years that I was in the closet. professionally. People started hearing about me, and people were coming out of the woodwork and wanting to see me as a patient in my office. And then they were in the closet about their spiritual experiences. And they were looking for somebody to validate them about their spiritual experiences. And so I started developing this clinical experience as in addition to my research and reading about it, I studied with various spiritual teachers over the years learning more. So I had my personal experiences, I had my clinical experience now from all these people that were telling me their spiritual story, awakening stories, and all I learned through my research. Then in 1990, I had a very strong mystical experience that I described in my book. I call it my calling mystical experience, because I was walking on the sand dunes in Monterey, California, I had just been at a conference that was on Kundalini. And I had been asked to speak on Kundalini because people had heard that I had traveled to India, and I've learned from Gopi, Krishna that Kundalini. And we had done a sharing circle in the evening, a friend and I who, and we said, if anybody would like to talk to us about their experiences will be available for you to talk about your experiences. So this was in 1990. And we didn't know if anybody would show up. But we were flooded, there were so many people. And we divided into groups. And everybody in my group, like one after the other after the other was telling me the story about their spiritual awakenings and their Kundalini experiences, and how they were mislabeled and pathologized. And told they were crazy or put in the psychiatric hospital or their church said it was work of the devil. And I was so deeply moved by this experience. It's like it cracked my heart open, I was profoundly moved. And I was walking on the sand dunes afterwards, in Monterey, California. And all of a sudden, I felt like this forcefield of light descended upon me and it just cracked my consciousness open. And where my head used to be, became like a sun radiating light in all directions. And I didn't hear any words spoken. But in this luminous state of consciousness, I suddenly knew, I just knew that I was being called that it was time to come out of the closet. And I'm to be come an advocate for experiencers. Because the medical profession is doing harm by labeling people as crazy for spiritual experiences. And the public is doing harm by labeling people as crazy. And the churches are doing harm by labeling it as work of the devil. And so when I kit, this experience profoundly changed the course of the rest of my life, that when I returned from that conference in California, I then publicly specialized my medical practice in the counseling and research of people who've had near death experiences, and other spiritually transformative experiences. And that has been the course of my life ever since. Wow.
Alex Ferrari 33:51
That's, it's, it's amazing. There was one thing we talked about before we started about your last near death experience, which you really need to stop dying. Seriously. I mean, I know their gifts at all. But
Dr. Yvonne Kason 34:04
I look forward to it. Because, you know, it's much nicer on the other side than here. Let me tell you!
Alex Ferrari 34:10
Tell me a little bit about this last near death experience you had.
Dr. Yvonne Kason 34:13
My most recent near death experience happened November the eighth 2003. And in this near death experience, I actually was completely dead for a period of time. And now I'm back. And what happened was, I was at Niagara Falls, Ontario, and I'm going to start with two hours before I died. I live about a two hour drive from Niagara Falls, Ontario and I like to go to Niagara Falls because I love the sound of the roar of the waterfalls, I go to the platforms and the tunnels underneath. And I love to meditate there because that that sound and the vibration is like the own vibration on the inside. And so if I know meditate there, I find I go very deep very quickly. So as as I like to do, I went to Niagara Falls that particular evening and I was standing at the base of the falls and I was meditating. And I went really deep, really fast. I was standing, holding a railing facing the falls and I went really deep, really fast. And all of a sudden, I slipped into a state of blessing communion, eyes open, eyes closed. I was in communion, in oneness with the spiritual route and a being of light appeared to me it was Mahabharata Bob mushy. And he telepathically or mentally communicated with me welcome home. And I felt just so blessed, such great joy. I felt like it really is true. It is possible to experience oneness unity of consciousness, while still informed it is possible. Little did I know that I was about to die two hours later. And I now wonder and that's why I started with what happened. If this was simply my time karmically to, to experience a bit of Nirvikalpa Samadhi. Or, or oneness, spiritual oneness, or if this was my end of life experience because you know, so many people have described now how at the end of people's lives for maybe for a few hours, sometimes for a few days, it's like the veils thin, and they're talking to departed loved ones or spirits on the other side. So this might have been my end of life experience that so anyway, so I was still in this state of communion. When I died. Two hours later, I slipped on black ice and I fell and I hit my head, I suffered a serious traumatic brain injury with a brain hemorrhage lacerated both my frontal lobes. And instantly my spirit was whisked out of my body by a force greater than myself and I found myself rash rapidly rushing upwards, through a dark expanse of space. Some people might call it a tunnel, but to me, it felt like a dark expanse of space. And then I was approaching it was like a doorway, radiating what light for the astral what heaven the white light realm and I knew exactly where I was going, and I wanted to be there. Because I knew from my previous near death experience the white light brown, but this time interestingly, there were two Beings of Light, like waiting in the doorway welcoming me. And these were two beings of light that I recognized instantly they were saints from my particular spiritual tradition. Paramahansa Yogananda and Maha Vitara Baba Ji and the feeling is I entered the white light realm was of incredible joy incredible love of welcome. And the to telepathically communicated to me that my physical body had died. That my work in the incarnation as Dr. Yvonne K song was completed. And it was like a celebration was happening in the light. It was like a graduation party or a birthday party. That was the feeling and I was the guest of honor. You know, I mean it. And there were other beings of light there. But I didn't distinguish faces or features, there was just this incredible feeling of love, and joy. And then I remember I guess a little part of my ego consciousness was still hanging on to me, it was like that little devil voice on your shoulder that you see depicted on TVs. This little part goes, oh, here comes the life review. Because exactly, because I learned enough about near death experiences that when people actually finally die, they often get this life review. And I mean, I've tried to live a good life, but who hasn't made mistakes, so I didn't know what I would be shown in my life review. And it was so incredible and beautiful, because the saints they could read my mind. And they turned and just glanced at me and with the glance was this incredible transmission of understanding. And it was like this doubt was like a flicker of dust on my shoulder and that glance just blew it right off just gone. And the understanding that was transmitted to me was the love the profound love and understanding of the higher power is so much greater than the love of a loving parent, who when a child when it's learning the divine knows we will make mistakes as part of our learning. And that just as a child who say learning to walk will stumble will fall with skin, its knees will bump its head might break something when it falls, that the loving parent doesn't punish the Child, the loving parent embraces the child and encourages the child and lovingly says, you can try again. You'll do better next time. That that was the sort of love that I was being welcomed with on the other side. Don't worry about it. You know, don't worry about it. And so I just my heart, soul Spirit just open and I just basked in that incredible, unrestrained, unconditional total love. And then my consciousness or sense of awareness, May, it's hard to put words to what happens on the other side. But it's like I shifted, and I shifted out of a state where I was like, visually seeing things into a state of knowing and understanding that was incredibly expansive. And it was like, my consciousness had expanded from, you know, a two gig mini computer to some maps and mega computer. And my consciousness could take in vast amounts of information all at once. And it was like, I just instantly re remembered all of my past lives. And it was like, oh, you know, like, of course, yeah, I remember now. Like, how can I forgotten that? And, and it was like, an aha moment for my soul. Because suddenly, with the memory back of all of my past lives, my incarnation in the body of Dr. Yvonne case on, suddenly made sense, because I'd always thought my life was a bit odd. Because here I am, I'm this old doctor practicing in Toronto, Canada, and I'm having I've had five near death experiences, you know, Kulina awakening, mystical experiences, clairvoyance, clairaudience, past life, recall you, you name it, I wrote the book on spiritually transformative experiences, because I was having all and, and I saw when I was on the other side, that maybe from a worldly ego perspective, that seemed odd, you know, for this little person here in Toronto. From a soul perspective, it made complete sense, because from a soul perspective, my soul was just continuing on. From what I've been like in past lives. This is not my first incarnation, having near death experiences. This is not my first incarnation being in this stick. This is not my first incarnation having kundalini awakening, I've had been this way for many incarnations and, and it just all of a sudden, it felt like, I found who I was, and it's like my soul fit within my skin. That's the best way to describe it's like, yeah, now, I remember who I really am. Yeah, now I remember who I really am. And it was a deep and profound experience. Anyway, there's much that transpired on the other side, that's really, really difficult to put into words. But I want to explain one more thing, which is quite notable about the time on the other side, which is about the passage of time, is that time, I was very aware that time was not passing the same on the other side, the way that we experience it down here on Earth, that that we here on earth experience time linearly, like there's the past, then comes the present, then comes the future, and we have experienced that one after the other. But on the other side, that was not how I was experiencing time at all. It was, I call it timeless time, because there was this sense that time was fluid, and could bend, and that from the state of consciousness on the other side, past, present, and future were all perceptible at the same time. And it was only a matter of where I put the the focus of my concentration, whether I would be perceiving what we here on Earth would perceive as the past. were perceiving what we here on earth see as the present or proceeding, as we what we here on earth perceive as the future, because over there, it's almost as if they're all happening at the same time, or they can all be viewed at the same time. But with the understanding that down here, it's experienced in a linear fashion. Anyway, after a period of what I call timeless time, because the sense of time is very different on the other side, suddenly the two Beings of Light Paramahansa Yogananda and Mahatma Tae Baba Ji they reappear to me and they telepathically communicated to me You may now choose to incarnate in the body of the baby to further serve the divine and or to go back to the main body. And my heart was like wide open. I was in a state of complete openness, trust, surrender, knowing of the wisdom of the divine plan for each and every soul. My heart, it seemed like it was my heart that responded, not your intellectual mind was resting somewhere in the background. It was my heart that responded. And what came out of my heart was, oh, masters, please guide me. What is the higher choice? I want to do God's well, and so lovingly, like how a telepathic thought can be ixo, exquisitely loving, it's really hard to describe, but it was telepathic, but this exquisite love and tenderness, they telepathically communicated to me, it will be more difficult, but to return to the injured body. And immediately, like my ego didn't kick in and ask any questions about like, what do you mean me more difficult, nothing like that. It was I was just in such a state of trust, openness and surrender, that immediately my soul responded, I accept, and believe it was so fast, it was faster than the speed of thought. Because it was between the thought I and the thought accepted. With a gasp of breath, I found myself suddenly waking up in my previously dead body, breathing life back into it lying on the ground and Niagara Falls. And for the first few minutes, it's hard to know, because my sense of time was completely off, I could see both realms at the same time, it was like a double image photograph that both realms were superimposed one upon the other, I could see the white light realm completely, and the two masters they were right with me with like, they ushered me right back into my body. And I could see the physical realm around me that I was waking up to. And then gradually, gradually, the white light round over the course of many minutes started fading from my view, until it became just a.in. My perception, which is still there, and that dot has been like a life ring. Helping me through the very, very, very difficult years that came after I revived in my previously dead body, because I came back to a body that was disabled with a serious traumatic brain injury. Right. And I was disabled for over 12 years. Yeah, yeah. And in nautical science, they say two to three years to recover from a neurological injury. And if you've not recovered, that it's permanent. And, and so I had to accept with time, although I did everything you can imagine all complementary therapies, traditional therapies, neuro rehab, I went to neuro rehab for seven years trying to get better. But I had to accept that for whatever reason in the divine plan, that I was now a disabled person. And I thought my worldly life was completely done. I couldn't do public talks like this anymore. I couldn't write books, I couldn't practice as a doctor, I couldn't. I couldn't even use the keyboard on my computer, I lost that ability, all sorts of challenges. And so I came to eventually accept that, for whatever reason, this was the way it was, and that how I would serve now I came to understand was through my prayer and meditation, that that was the only way I could serve. I couldn't serve in the word world outwardly anymore. I that chapter was over and I now I tried to make the best of the chapter where I was disabled and I served through my prayer and meditation. So I focused very intently and relearning how to meditate which was one of the things I lost in the brain injury. It took many many years to get my ability to meditate back. And then just when you figure you know what God's plan is for your life, haha, convulsive brought to because everything changed suddenly, more than 12 years after I became disabled. On February 24th 2016, when I was meditating in Encinitas, California, on a holy spot where the retreat Temple is right on top of the spot where Paramahansa Yogananda used to go into Samadhi and commune with God. I love Tibet. teetered, holy spots, it helps me go deep, fast. I was meditating there this particular day. And all of a sudden, in the middle of my meditation, I experienced a miracle. What happened was, suddenly there was like an eruption of liquid light in the center of my brain, I could perceive it inwardly. And it was like, the center of my brain had been in darkness for 12 years, and suddenly the lights came on. And it was luminous with light, this liquid light flowing in it and subjectively what it felt like was waking up, like, you know that my brain had woken up after being asleep for 12 years. And at the same time, just all of these ideas came like a floodgate it open because, you know, my, my, my long term memory, my insight, my judgment, think of it like the hard drive if my brain had not been injured, but other things had been injured, like the keyboard and the screen, so you couldn't get any of the stuff out that was on the hard drive. But now suddenly, with this miracle, the keyboard and the screen and we're working again, and the floodgates opened, and all of these ideas that I should share in my future books were flooding through my consciousness. And I got the very strong inner guidance pass on what you have learned. And so I started writing, again, like avidly writing again, after this brain healing. And the first book I wrote was over my shoulder, they were touched by the light came out in 2019. And which is sort of a compilation of over 100 stories of patient of people, I've spoken to their spiritual awakening stories, all different kinds of spiritually transformative experiences. Then the second book I wrote after my brain healing is the one that just came out. So lessons from the light. So this is my personal spiritual awakening story with details of some of the peak experiences that I've had. And, and, to me, this book is really, really special. For two reasons, one, first off, because it's the product of the miracle, I couldn't, I couldn't have written this book, had it not been for that miracle healing that I experienced in 2016. And, you know, I stand here is a living testimonial to people I like to say to people, when I talk now, that no matter what the challenges are, that you're having in life, because people have different challenges, but everybody has chaffinches, never give up hope. Because you never know when the divine hand might step in and surprise you. And a miracle might happen. And I'm a living testimonial to that, that miracles do happen. I am the living proof.
Alex Ferrari 52:55
Yvonne your stories have been transformative, to say the least they've been very entertaining, you are very entertaining. You have wonderful energy. I love your laugh. It's wonderful. As well, I'm going to ask you a few questions I ask all of my guest. What is your definition of living a fulfilled life?
Dr. Yvonne Kason 53:15
I think living a fulfilled life is experiencing firsthand, your direct relationship with the loving higher power. And being able to be an instrument of the divine in whatever small way spirit is calling you to do that. And that is what gives me fulfillment.
Alex Ferrari 53:39
If you can get in a time machine and go back in time, and speak to the little girl that used to be you, what would you what advice would you give her?
Dr. Yvonne Kason 53:46
I would tell her, everything's gonna be all right. Everything's gonna be fine.
Alex Ferrari 53:52
How do you define, How do you define God?
Dr. Yvonne Kason 53:54
How do I define God? I define God based on my personal experiences of God, rather than a mental construct, or anything I've read in a book, and how I experienced God, how I've experienced God through the blessing glimpses that I've been given is of this incredible, loving force, with infinite intelligence, that has this beautiful plan for all of us to have these wonderful, very diverse, very interesting experiences, as our souls are learning and growing through many incarnations over many lives, and that it's the divine design of this loving intelligence force, that we're all going to have a happy ending, that we're all eventually going to find our way Whoa, we might get lost for a while. After, this is what I perceive. And that's the beauty of the divine plan is that is that we're all going to make it home in the end. And that by following the little hints and clues that spirit is trying to give us through whispers or sometimes by explosive experiences, that that will help us find the path that's going to lead us to that soul awareness of our true nature as children of God.
Alex Ferrari 55:29
And where can people find out more about you and the work you're doing?
Dr. Yvonne Kason 55:32
Alright, well, I'm I found it a couple years ago, an organization called spiritual awakenings International. That again, was another calling I received from Spirit to found this organization. And it has grown and blossomed. We now have subscribers from 78 countries around the world, which is blows my mind and I think it just confirms that spiritual awakenings are happening to people all over the world. And our website is spiritualawakeningsinternational.org. And you can reach me there or you can find out about the events that we're having. We have monthly speaker events where people talk about their spiritual awakening experiences. We have sharing circles, in English and in Spanish. And we have this great conference coming up in June June 10, and 11th and online conferences free on a donation basis. So people want to learn about any of this that go to my website, spiritual weight use international.org. And if you want to learn more about my book, you can go to my my personal website, which is DrYvonnekason.com. So DrYvonnekason.com. And my book is called Soul lessons from the light.
Alex Ferrari 56:48
I hope you enjoy it. And do you have any parting messages for the audience?
Dr. Yvonne Kason 56:53
Yes, my parting message is what I met said previously, never give up hope. You know, I'm a walking testimonial that miracles could happen and if a miracle could happen to me, it could happen to you. You never know
Alex Ferrari 57:07
Dr. Yvonne thank you so much for sharing your stories, your bravery and sharing them publicly and for all the amazing work you're doing. So thank you again, my dear.
Dr. Yvonne Kason 57:16
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