SHOCKING: Ancient TABLETS of CREATION FOUND! Mankind’s REAL DIVINE Origins REVEALED! with Billy Carson

Billy Carson 0:00
I was like, what in the world was that? And then just while I was completely amazed, it came back. There were advanced beings on this earth in ancient times, and they used to have what she said, megalithic, or she said, megalithic cities on tops of mountains you need to go to Machu Picchu. And so these people came from a different star system to this planet, and they are people, flesh and blood people, and we look a lot like them.

Alex Ferrari 0:27
And chisel out a story that I'm just making up, like there's something there

Billy Carson 0:34
Two civilizations running concurrently being labored by these one being called Ijiji. They were the working class of the Anunnaki or the Anuna, because when you come down to the real truth, that will really upturn or overturn a lot of the mainstream theories that have been pushed and like dogma and propaganda and people grasp that truth and understand it. It will overturn industries.

Alex Ferrari 1:10
I like to welcome back to the show returning champion, Billy Carson, how you doing Billy?

Billy Carson 1:15
Fantastic man. I'm glad to be here.

Alex Ferrari 1:17
Thank you, man, so much for coming all out and Next Level Soul Studios flying in for us. I appreciate it, man, every time you and I get together, the internet seems to like it.

Billy Carson 1:26
Oh man, we break the internet, man, we break the internet, and it's gonna break again right now!

Alex Ferrari 1:31
I'm telling you. I mean, there hasn't been one, we've done three. Yeah, this is the fourth one, and there hasn't been one that hasn't broken at least a million. Wow, at least amazing, which is insane.

Billy Carson 1:41
Yeah, yeah, good numbers.

Alex Ferrari 1:43
Not bad numbers brother, not bad numbers. So I'm so happy to be happy. Have you here, man. So, you know I wanted, we've talked about a lot of stuff, but I really never delved into the main one question I've always wanted to ask you is, like you do so much, man, you do so much research. You're so curious about stuff. What? What started you on this insane path

Billy Carson 2:08
Psychopathic path.

Alex Ferrari 2:09
Psychopathic, sociopathic path that you are on now. It just, it's, it's not something you wake up and just go, You know what? I'm gonna just go down every rabbit hole, because you go after all of them, yeah, it's not like, you're just like, oh, the moon is this or or the earth is flat. I know you don't think that, but you know, like things like, you go after all of it. So what sparked that, man?

Billy Carson 2:31
I'll tell you. It's a culmination of a few things. The first one of the biggest things, though, was leaving New York and moving down to Miami, being in a very impoverished neighborhood, I'm talking about extremely bad Opa Locka. Opa Locka, very well, yeah. And so I was like, Opa Locka airport. We're kind of, you know, because the airport, the planes will fly right over our backyard as they took off from Opa Locka airport, they don't care, yeah, yeah, they shot bad boys. Oh, man, yes, exactly. That's right, bad boys. Bad Boys, too. I think it was whatever. But, yeah, so night, you know, now it's very nice. They remodeled it and everything, but, but anyway, I'm looking up in the sky, and I see these airplanes going over. Now, even as a seven year old kid, I know that these planes are moving fast, but from my perspective, they look like they were moving slow. And it really had me, like, freaked out, like, how are they moving so slow? And I know they have to go fast. And so I'm looking up one day, because, you know, this is the 70s. There's no TV cable. We had three channels on this, you know, no Cartoon Network.

Alex Ferrari 3:32
You don't have to me

Billy Carson 3:33
I'm amaze of myself now, but I'm looking up and I see this object go over, and it clears the horizon in seconds. And this object was a little bit more elongated than an egg, but not quite to be like, almost like a cigar, kind of in the middle, and it was glowing metal, and it was shining, and it just spurted across the sky like and I was like, What in the world was that? And then just while I was completely amazed. It came back just as fast and it stopped this time. But this time was much lower, maybe now I can estimate about 250 meters above my head, and it was just completely silent, no humming, no buzzing, no nothing, just glowing metal, kind of like this illuminating, like glow that was kind of like, like getting brighter and getting a little bit dimmer and brighter and dimmer, like it was kind of emanating this glow, whatever this glow was, and then it just, it was gone in the opposite direction. And I ran in the house, and I was screaming, oh my god. I can't believe what I just saw. My mom. I'm telling my mother, I just saw something crazy. I don't know what it was, but it went, it would clear the sky went so fast, and it was, I was talking so fast that I was all panicked and everything. And she said, Son, let me tell you something. She just calmed me right down. This is the 70s. There were advanced beings on this earth in ancient times, and they used to have, what she said, megalithic or she said, megalithic cities on tops of mountains you need to go to Machu Picchu, which is what. I dedicated my first book to my mother. Your mom said this. My mom said, in the 70s, in the 70s, what? That's insane. She didn't say aliens. She said advanced beings, which is why I use that term, until this very day, advanced beings. I say that the majority of the time. I got it from my mom, and so she told me, you know, Machu Picchu is the place you need to go visit, you know, when you grow up. And that was one of the places I went to, and that's why there's a picture of that in one of my books. And I dedicated that whole book to my mom, because I finally made it out there to see these cities on top of mountains that she told me about way back in the 70s. But that sparked my interest. So I went to my school, Rainbow Park, elementary. It was only five houses away from my house, and I went to the teacher. I said, I need to go to the library and get the encyclopedias. That was our old fashioned Google back then. So I had to go get the Britannica out.

Alex Ferrari 5:54
I had new world, baby.

Billy Carson 5:55
Oh yeah, you start now. I go get them, and I'm looking for aerospace, and I get all the aerospace tech books out, and I'm looking for what I saw in the sky. I couldn't find it. I'm looking at swept wing, delta wing. I'm looking at ballistic, intercontinental ballistic. I'm looking at supersonic. I'm looking at hypersonic. Everything I saw, I saw this SR 71 Blackbird, which was blowing my brain out back then, the fact that it was built in the 1960s you know, a plane that can fly four times the speed of sound, that can outrun missiles and everything else. So I became kind of a quasi aerospace historian, just getting into that tech that led me down the tech rabbit hole. And then from that rabbit hole of looking at these advanced technologies, it led me to, eventually led me into Black Budget Tech and trying to find out what's going on with these, these declassified projects, and if they had these now declassified, how old were they really when they when they made them? How many decades ago did this stuff start and going down this rabbit hole just led me from thing to thing to thing, dealing with technologies and aerospace technologies, and space technology in particular. And so that, in a common that, in combination with the fact that, you know, my mom was, you know, they had me doing book reports all the time, my mom, my dad book reports, they knew that I was studious and I can read really good. And so from elementary school before elementary actually, before we even moved to Miami, they had me doing these book reports. When we got to Miami and the school was giving us more books, it was crazy. I was like, Come on, guys. And they had me doing all these reports and all these books. And about maybe three weeks after this whole thing happened, or a week to three weeks, I can't remember the exact time period, but this, this encyclopedia salesman came to the house, yeah, and dropped off a set and told my mom, you got to pay X amount of dollars a month or whatever. But the guy came back one time and never came back again. It was the biggest blessing I ever had. I was into economics, biology, physics, science, chemistry, uh, economics, I mean, you name it, right, ecology and, and so these books, and I was studying these books like and because I was doing research on them and doing book reports on them, this is where my, my basis for research kind of really began, and and reading comprehension began. And between, you know, seeing that now, I call it a UFO back then, and digging into the aerospace and then much later, getting into a situation where I was wanting to go after these ancient sites and go visit them, but not knowing the deeper level that they were tied to, potentially these advanced civilizations. I didn't know that yet, until I had an experience that happened to me around 2010 and that just drove me even deeper, because I had this revelation to look up WorldWide Telescope, which is at the time, was a technology site that had all the probe data, space probe data from all the missions into space. So this culmination of researching aerospace technology, having this strange, otherworldly experience, and then going online and finding this space probe data and beginning to see anomalies that were to me connecting ancient sites on Mars to ancient sites on Earth. It just led me down this immense rabbit hole. Then I said, everything is open game. Now I need to know everything.

Alex Ferrari 9:14
So what was the event that happened in 2010 seems pretty.

Billy Carson 9:17
It was a big, intense so in 2010 I was working on this project called Fort TerraNova, and it's got an Instagram account, Fort TerraNova, it means it's a Fort Worth. And I was building an underground base, which I ended up completing in 2013 it was on the History Channel on an episode called Countdown to apocalypse, the Nostradamus version. And it was, they were featuring my underground shelter company that I had, I had started, and I built one underground the size of three Walmarts. So a bunker, a bunker, yes,

Alex Ferrari 9:50
That's intense, three Walmarts, super Walmarts, just regular,

Billy Carson 9:54
Regular Walmarts, okay, okay. But on supermarket one super Walmart, and they didn't have them super. Walmart, exactly, yeah, but, but they, it's, it's got everything, you know, for 360 people to live underground for up to a year, completely off the grid. You're talking about tilapia pool, hydroponics. Unfortunately, it runs on turbine diesel engines. But, yeah, back then it's just what we still, I'm looking to change it out. But food for a year, you know, front low tractors and so in seeds. So we can plant seeds above the land, and everything's clear to come out. So this is Draw. It drew a lot of attention. And I don't know if that's what drew these beings attentions, but after one hard, long day of work with that project, I came home to watch a little sports update on ESPN. About 9pm I was wide awake, and the whole room just turned lavender, and the TV went and it shut down, and I thought that my boys were playing a trick on me, because the split floor plan had boys on one side, girls on the other, and my wife, at the time, was even in the room behind the family room and the master bedroom on the first floor, my ex wife, and so, yeah, this, this has happened. And I looked over my left shoulder, there was nobody there. And when I turned around, these, what I could only describe to you as two gray alien beings were in my face. Now, people talk about these things. They have them on TV all the time, and they have this depiction of them. They're almost like what you see in the movies, almost not quite, but almost at least these two, they were only inches from my face. I did recently. I did a little regression work with some with, like a psychiatrist, to to get that I was I was having so much anxiety talking about this. It was getting me so emotional. I've even been on a few emotional podcasts talking about it. But I really had to go face it. I finally faced the trauma that it gave me head on, and I feel so much better, but for years, it really traumatized me, just up until, maybe not even just a few months ago, I'm finally working my way through that trauma, because what they did to me, they didn't take me anywhere, they didn't abduct me, they didn't speak to me in words that I could understand. But whatever they were doing, it was making my brain shake in the skull. It was like having somebody take your head and just shake it like this for like 30-40, seconds, as hard as they possibly could. And I was screaming, but no sound was coming out. Nobody could hear what I was saying, and just as quick as it started, it stopped, and they just turned and kind of dangled away. They bounced away. They don't have a normal walking gate like us. I mean, least from what my perspective was, it looked like they were almost bouncing, and they went right through the wall. And then the lights came back, you know, normal, the TV came back on, and I ran around the house, and it scared everybody in my family. Till this day, I'm still kind of, you know, estranged from one of my sons, Giovanni. He still, you know, he told me, like, I'm just afraid to be around you. I'm afraid to come to your house because of what happened, you know,

Alex Ferrari 12:50
I get it, yeah, yeah. I get that. I get that is, um, was it maybe a frequency thing? Like, their frequency was at such a high level that you would just bear your your nervous system could barely handle what was going on. I know that Bashar Daryl told me that once that der Lanka told me, once that hit, that if Bashar showed up, we would just couldn't even be in the room with him. We couldn't be more than 10 or 15 feet away from him, because his his frequencies at such a high level that we just can't handle it. And, you know about channels, so they take, them take a minute to kind of ramp up, yeah, their nervous system and their bodies to deal with that frequency. So is that you think it's quite possible that kind of just like, because what you sounds like, it's like your nervous system is going crazy, your brain's good, like you couldn't handle it. Was overload the frequency, exactly. It's too much stuff coming at you.

Billy Carson 13:42
It was just too much. Was just too much. It was complete overload the fear factor.

Alex Ferrari 13:44
First of all, did you, like, lose your mind?

Billy Carson 13:47
Listen, it was scary. It was really scary. I made no money from this. I got nothing but angst from it. You know, I was audio shaky terms with my wife already was, like, the level we got to, you know, divorce, you know, it scared my kids still to this day, it just really, not, nothing good, really came out of the situation, you know, and so, but it happened, and I came, I finally came to the realization years later, when I finally wanted to talk about it, because so many people were coming to me with their situations and things that they were experiencing, and I was hiding mine, and I felt like, Yeah, I'm probably one of the very few people that would listen to them, but if I start talking about what happened to me, maybe more people will come out. Maybe more people will listen to other people when they say something, they had an experience of some type. And so that's why I decided to do it. And for all the ones who have come forward, there's over 7 million people that have had experiences. You know, you know, they're all heroes. They're all courageous people. But that experience led me that that same night is when my brain kept picking up this phrase, WorldWide Telescope, WorldWide Telescope, WorldWide Telescope, over and over again, WorldWide Telescope. So I went to the computer and I typed in WorldWide Telescope on excite.com, Um, at that time,

Alex Ferrari 15:01
Not Lycos.

Billy Carson 15:03
Lycos the site, you know, Jeeves, oh, wow,

Alex Ferrari 15:08
We are dating ourselves. Okay, let's not, let's not go. Let's not go down that road. Okay, go ahead, sir.

Billy Carson 15:15
The old school search engines, right, yeah. But the first one that popped up was worldwide, telescope.org, and the software was there. Now you can run it right from the computer, because html5 allow you to run it from the server, but you can still download if you want, and you install the software, and it takes you into space probe data. I went to Mars. I said, Oh, my panoramic. Click on that Opportunity rover. Okay, click on Opportunity rover. Now I'm in the rover. I can zoom in, zoom out, pan left and right from the perspective of the mast cam on the rover on Mars. Um, how is that really? Yeah, yeah. It's stitched together images. They call them. They call them gigapans. After the rover collects all the data, it's stitched, okay, live. It's not alive, you know, it's not a live connection. It gives you the perspective, though, from the time that it was he shot it, and it gives you the ability to make all these moves within the imagery as if you were there. It's phenomenal technology. And I started seeing anomalies right away, things that looked like stones that you would see in Peru, right how the stones almost looked molded together broken pieces of what looked like to be buildings. I can't say they were buildings, but it looked like statues that looked almost Egyptian esque. And I said, What the hell is going on? And when I found the first Ankh up there and laying it laying in the sand, I said, This is crazy. Went back to figuring out, okay, I gotta research this. And I came across the text called the Enuma Elish and the seven tablets of creation, and also the EB of atrahasis. And the reason why they're important, they're ancient Sumerian cuneiform tablets that have been deciphered for over 200 years. And in these epics, there are beings named the Egi that were actually working and and laboring on Mars. But they were all saying, Did they say Mars? Oh, yeah, Lamu. Lamu, which is another one, right? Mars. And so according to the Sumerians, that's the same planet, from Mars, the god of war, and then they were also working here on Earth. So they were in both places, two civilizations running concurrently, being labored by these, one being called Ijiji. They were the working class of the Anunnaki or the Anuna. So just like if I own a construction company, I'm the executive, I'm not going to get out there and work. Then I have a master architect, and then I have a foreman. And underneath the foreman, we got the laborers. They're not slaves, but they are working. So that's how they had this whole thing set up. And it was even laying out the type of work they were doing, digging canals, building cities, creating irrigation, clearing out the Euphrates and Tigris river to create the irrigation system so civilization can prosper. All this is in the text. It's incredible, really, yeah, and when I read this stuff, I was like, What the I just blew me away. And I said, I got to know more. And I started digging deeper into all these ancient text tablets. One tablet led me to one thing, another thing, another thing, the next thing you know, over you know, 20 years later, you know, I've gone through over 1000 texts, tablets, scriptures, Papyrus, cylinder scrolls, ancient, you know, ancient verbal handed down star lore and visited with sages and wisdom keepers all around the world to continue to gain as much knowledge as I possibly could on these topics.

Alex Ferrari 18:14
So when you So, let's, let's dive in a little bit to the Anunnaki, because the seven tablet of creation is very interesting, because I know about the Annunaki is the stories that are in these Sumerian tablets, and that's becoming more and more known now it's a lot of people are talking about it. You're definitely helping, I'm helping get the word out on these kind of things. But, yeah, you know, I know when you were on Joe's show, I mean, you guys talked about that stuff. And like a lot of people are understanding and are hearing these, these stories. But what I always say to people is, like, what do you think that's real? I'm like, Well, you know, it's not as easy. It's not like, it's not like Stephen King could just sit down and write a book. He's really easy for him to write a book. You hit on a computer, you write on a piece of paper, but to put clay tablets, like, I'm like, I'm gonna sit down today, yeah, and chisel out a story that I'm just making up, right? Like, there's something there, and that's throughout history, by the way. Yeah, you know, Stone Colonial tablets, yeah. So I always say, like, what are they lying? So can you tell explain to people really quickly? Because I know a lot of people listening probably know who Anunnaki is, but can you kind of talk a little bit about Anunnaki and and a little bit more deeper on what these other guys are doing? Because I haven't really heard a whole lot about them.

Billy Carson 19:27
Oh yeah, definitely. Well, the Anunnaki, also known as the Anuna, are these ancient gods. So they are the original Pantheon that came down to earth from the heavens, according to the ancient Sumerians, long before the Greek pantheon was even adopted. The Greek pantheon are the same beings, just with different names. And so these beings came down to earth, and in pre dynastic Egypt, ancient Kemet, they call them the Neteru, n, e, t, e, r, u and and they were known as the gods that came from heaven to earth at the time of zeptepi to turn mud. Into a kingdom. And so they're known all around the planet. In the biblical text, they're called the Enoch, and it says we were grasshoppers in their eyesight. No matter where you go around the world, you find an account of these beings, these Mighty beings. They call them savants of old and heroes of old. And so these people came from a different star system to this planet, and they are people, flesh and blood people, and we look a lot like them. But there are distinguishing factors, because when you read the text in the biblical text, when they're identifying these people, when you read in the ancient Sumerian tablets and other other texts from around the world, they can distinguish, oh, this person is an angel or a Fallen One, or whatever you want to call them. So there are some distinguishing features that let people know that they're not exactly homo sapien, but they in some way, shape or form. About 200,000 years ago, they decided to genetically tinker with human beings and get them to do the work of the Egi. So these egiji beings, these were worker people. They were volunteers. They weren't supposed to be enslaved. But they arrived here about 450,000 years ago. They worked for about 250,000 years, yes, laboring building a breakaway civilization on Earth and Mars, which is why there's so much, so many anomalies on Mars. And then what happened was they decided to go to war against God anew, the head of the gods anew, Enki and Enlil. So they fell from heaven to earth. They left Mars came down to earth. And the epic of atrahasis, they went to South Africa, to a place called Adam's calendar, and they encircled the camp of Enki anew. And Enlil and I read this tablet online one day. This is like, there's a rabble at my door. There's a rabble at my door. What does this mean? And he was the v, e, g, g, coming banging on the door, getting ready to go to war. And so a new and gets his his security team, and they come outside, and they're trying to talk and hash it out. And then, and he comes up with an idea. And he says, there's an there is an existing being on this planet. We can add our essence to it and get it to bear your load. In other words, we can create a worker slave, a worker race. So an agreement was made, and the Egi said, By the way, we need some women. And so they took some women with them. These are the sons of God that made it with the daughters of men. They took this in Genesis. They took the women with them because they didn't. They claim that they weren't getting any women. They needed that too. So they took some women, human women, by the way, and this created the Nephilim race, right? By mating together. All this is in the ancient town.

Alex Ferrari 22:28
And the Nephilim, that's in the book of Enoch, right? Or am I wrong?

Billy Carson 22:31
The Nephilim, well, they're throughout the Old Testament, but they are definitely in the Genesis, okay, you know, God tries to wipe them out, but that's actually in Lille. Yahweh wants to wipe them out. But that's in Lille, some of the Nephilim survive in the Bible, same story in the Samaritan same story 1000s of years prior. And so, you know this, these Gigi, they just, they just wanted a break. So what's the best way to create a slave, a slave that doesn't know it's a slave, you become it's God. And they are honoring the gods by doing this labor. It's a labor of love at that point. So that's how they manipulated mankind. They took our cousins that were already here, they tinkered with our genetics. They disconnected some of our DNA nodes, they shrunk our pineal gland, and they installed something called a worship gene, which scientists and genetic geneticists have just discovered. The worship gene inside of us when it's on you want to worship something on the outside. When it's turned off, you go within. And so they put that all together, and it's nice genetic soup. And they got us out here laboring and slaving, and we're still doing it till this very day.

Alex Ferrari 23:33
So it sounds like it was they unionized and unionized, and like, look our working conditions for the last 250,000 years? Not so good. Yeah, we want some women, and let's hire these other or let's build these other people to do it right, kind of like what we're trying to do now with AI. Yeah, in many ways, facts, we're giving we're giving our essence to an artificial to do a lot of the workload.

Billy Carson 23:56
There's no difference. We are duplicating what's already been done in the form of AI and learning machines.

Alex Ferrari 24:04
That's insane. Yeah. So, so this is my question. A lot of people listening to this stuff will always ask, Well, I mean, if there were all of these people, all these beings, all these civilizations, why don't we have more artifacts? Why don't we have more proof, other than some Apparently, some dude just sat down and just, you know, on a tablet, wrote down on a tablet this story. Why isn't there more proof out there?

Billy Carson 24:04
Yeah, we have a lot of proof. Okay, there's a lot of hidden proof and suppressed proof too. But the proof that we can get access to just travel to the 33rd degree parallel of the earth, and you'll find megalithic city after megalithic city as you go around the globe on planet Earth, at certain points on that 33rd degree parallel. For whatever reason they chose that parallel, I think it's because of the magnetic field from the earth there. They've harnessed the power of that, and they've built megalithic cities all around that 33rd degree parallel. I mean, you can get to Wakan, right? You can go over to the Bosnian pyramid, the pyramids at Giza to Japan, China. I mean, you can just keep going on that parallel you're going to find, you know, bow back, they're all on that path, on that on that path, and these sites, when you go to them and you go visit them in person, like I have, you begin to realize how magnificent the architecture is, and how incredible the technology must have been to move these things. They have this, you know, these stones that some of them are 1520, tons. Some of these stones, we don't even have machines today that can move one of these stones. And yet, these people, these primitive people, with copper chisels and chicken bones, somehow remove them from chicken bones. They say they harvested them from the quarry, yeah, with chicken bones and with chicken bones, and they took them hundreds of miles, in some cases, and then hoisted them up and built a magnificent structure. And that's no blueprints,

Alex Ferrari 25:56
And that's a slapped up, yeah, like the mathematics is so perfect, the alignments and everything. I mean, I was, I was in Chichen Itza, and I was there, and I was looking at it, and it's just such an awe inspiring, yeah, technology, like, I'm like, how the hell yeah, with the equinox and the snake coming out, yeah, hearing the bird, yes, the bird sound when the clap. I'm like, get that, come on. Like, how? I mean, do you know what type of technology like,

Billy Carson 26:26
For you have to have foreknowledge. So in order to build these structures, which are the evidence laying right before our eyes all over planet Earth, the evidence is underneath our feet. We just have chosen to ignore it, because mainstream won't acknowledge it. But for example, Chichen Itza, right down to the Yucatan Peninsula, you have to have foreknowledge of everything you want to be able to accomplish, astrologically and physically, cymatically, before you build the first before you lay the first stone, right?

Alex Ferrari 26:56
Because you're not going to like, oh, about halfway through, can we move everything over to five feet?

Billy Carson 27:02
Right! You can't do that. It's got to be so precise. You have to understand the Earth, the tilt of the earth that it has our tilt. You have to understand the Earth's wobble. You have to understand procession of the equinox and over 27,000 year period. You have to understand Cymatics and frequencies and vibrations. You have to understand calculus and mathematics in a way that, you know people are just learning today. You also have to understand that you need some type of technology above the earth to scan, because you need to have a polar orbiting satellite that's going to scan the earth for data to give you the precise location for you to put this, this, you know, this thing, the that's just one, that's just one, and it's like the odds that it was a mistake and just coincidence don't even exist. Come on. So when you say evidence, just go to the pyramid of Kuku Khan and chits in the Yucatan Peninsula, just that one structure alone is all the evidence you

Alex Ferrari 28:01
But that evidence has been according to the mainstream, you know, with that, they said that was built what, you know, 1200 Ad or something like that.

Billy Carson 28:11
You know, yeah, a lot of the stuff is way older than what they say.

Alex Ferrari 28:16
I mean, look, pyramids or the six, nobody knows.

Billy Carson 28:21
I can take you to the Sphinx enclosure. Every year I take people to them going, in a few more weeks to Egypt, to take a couple 100 people on a private tour. We go into the Sphinx enclosure. I go to the wall where you see the weathering pattern. And the weathering pattern tells you the whole story. Okay. Dr, Robert shock professor, he he estimates from based on him being a professor in geology, at least 13,000 years. I give it even longer than that. I give it another processional period beyond that, taking it back to about 36,000 years ago, around the same time the Emerald Tablets were written. And you can see the water flow, and you can tell how many years it took the water to flow and why the water flow? Because of the younger, driest incident that created this huge impact right above Syria, which created this flood that ran through the area and filled up the entire plateau of Giza with water. And that enclosure was underwater for quite some time. There's a lot of water and erosion. That's evidence right there on the spot. And you can calculate, it's like a clock. Erosion is like a ticking time clock, and you can actually calculate how old this thing is. I'm giving it about 36,000 years. He doesn't want to go that far back, because I don't think he wants to offend his his peers too much.

Alex Ferrari 29:30
He's already offended them.

Billy Carson 29:31
Yeah, he's probably has, but I'm telling you, it's further back than that.

Alex Ferrari 29:35
Why? Why does mainstream archeology and just main three in every, every, everything you do, from medicine to physics, yeah, to everything. When there's something new that changes the status quo, everyone fights against it, as opposed to, oh, let's investigate. Let's look at the evidence. Let's let's see what happens. Why do you think I mean the. Proof it's getting it's getting the the noise is getting now so loud I know from people, I mean, because of what Graham, Graham Hancock did, and Robert Shaw, and people like you and everyone out there really just beaten the drum, yeah, to the point where you just ask a normal, you just a normal person off the street and go, does this make sense? And they'll go, man, that seems without conspiracy theory, talking about that

Billy Carson 30:25
Just, just basically logic.

Alex Ferrari 30:27
Robert, our friend, Robert Grant, came in. I mean, he could talk, oh man. I mean, he could go into detail, math, yeah, and throw out numbers. And you just like, This is impossible. It's not a coincidence. It's not a coincidence. It's not possible. It didn't happen 1500 years ago with a chicken bone like it seems so much. But why do you think that mainstream has such a problem with it?

Billy Carson 30:47
Because when you come down to the real truth, that will really upturn or overturn a lot of the mainstream theories that have been pushed and like dog, man, propaganda and people grasp that truth and understand it, it will overturn industries. Okay, so the archeological industry is heavily tied into, believe it or not, the religious industry. It's shocking. Yeah, so a lot of the funding, the grant money is going is coming from religious from the Catholic Church.

Alex Ferrari 31:18
It's the Vatican. It's just the Vatican. It's the Vatican. It's Vatican. There's no other rich churches out there. The Mormons aren't sending money,

Billy Carson 31:26
No like it's the Vatican, it's the Vatican. It's the Vatican. They're funding a lot of these archeological projects, but as long as they get access to the data, and of course, they get the the they get it to say what they want to say, to support their support their narrative, correct, to support their narrative. And so that's the problem. And so you can disrupt once, you know, once religion is disrupted, we're talking about trillions of dollars per year gone bye, bye, trillions of dollars, not billions. True, the religious system makes more money than all the Silicon Valley companies combined a year. That's a lot of money.

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Billy Carson 32:42
They're beating out Nvidia, that's a lot of money.

Alex Ferrari 32:44
That's a lot of Microsoft, Apple.

Billy Carson 32:46
Yeah, all of them all together. So that's why these truths, if grasped and understood by the general population, would overturn industries. If people understood that hydrogen was more efficient, hydrogen fuel cells were way more efficient than EV fuel cells and could charge up in four or five minutes. People would dump EVs in a heartbeat. You know, that's the that's the wave of the future, though it's going to be hydrogen, but it just took all this time to get to it. Now, all of a sudden, a lot of these major car manufacturers are dumping EVs, and they're going to move into hydrogen finally, but it took decades and decades. We had to get killed. We had electric cars in the 20s. Yes, sure did. Facts!

Alex Ferrari 33:25
We had electric cars in the 20s, but the the oil industry is like, no, no, no, no, yeah, no, listen, you know. And even diesel, they killed diesel.

Billy Carson 33:34
Killed it. No, they killed him. Yeah, I know. They killed him.

Alex Ferrari 33:37
They killed him. And because diesel's a much better engine than the engine. Now the gas engine is much diesel is a much more efficient engine. I know that's why, that's why it's in every single tractor trailer.

Billy Carson 33:50
Facts, the guy who came with the first hydrogen car, yeah, they killed him. He went to go meet with the Pentagon at lunch, and he I don't know if he accepted offer or not. I guess he didn't accept it, because while he was eating, he got poisoned right there at one of those Cracker Barrel restaurants and died right there in the parking lot, yelling out, they poisoned me. At a Cracker Barrel, Cracker Barrel. Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 34:12
That's a tough way. That's a tough way to go, man,

Billy Carson 34:14
Tough way to go. That's a tough way to go on biscuits and gravy. Oh, man, they got him.

Alex Ferrari 34:20
They caught him on biscuits. Well, that's a quick way to get me too, sir, yeah. But so let's, let's, let's dive in a little bit into the Vatican, a bit, because I know that's one of your favorite topics, and definitely one of mine. Ever since I went, I can't get it out of my head. You know, St Peter's Basilica, going underneath, into that catacombs, walking through that museum that is just an embarrassment of riches. And then, I mean, yeah, and that's all we see, yeah, and it's packed. I don't know you every I mean, I'm sure you've been there, it's packed, like, you walk in and just like, there's not just one, you know, sculpture, there's. 45 of them jammed together on a wall, and you just like, that's all we see. How powerful and how powerful and influential is the Vatican still to this day, because it does have it has lost a lot of its luster without question. When you and I were growing up in the 70s, the Roman Catholic church could do no wrong. Yeah, right. It was, it was the pope, Pope John Paul. Are you kidding? When they shot that poor man? I mean, it was like, oh, what you want to go straight to hell? Yeah, it's like a direct ticket. You don't even want to pass go. You just want to go straight to hell. But, but since then, obviously the Vatican and in the Catholic Church have taken a hit. Yeah, they've taken financially, but you have a feeling that financially it's going to be really difficult to dent them. Yeah, but how much power do they still have? Because people are leaving that religion in droves in this I mean, one or two generations from now?

Billy Carson 36:00
They're going to be, they're going to be, they could be significantly weakened in two more generations. Oh, but right now, they still have a lot of power. They still, you know, they still invest a lot of money into governments. They fund wars from both sides, the Black Pope, and I don't mean a black man, like African American, but the Black Pope is the one who wears the black robe. He is the super Jesuit, and the super Jesuit is the one that gives the okay for the wars to even happen. Well, where's the main Pope? The main pope is just a puppet. He's a figurehead, just like the president united states, they get a little bit of power here and do some really menial things. But the real decisions and the real power is with the Super Jesuits, the Black Pope okay. And the Black Pope okays wars. He okays invasions into countries. He okays bombs being dropped, all of that. He okays arms sales. And he even okays trafficking poppy seeds from Afghanistan, for example. That's the super Jesuit Black Pope.

Alex Ferrari 37:00
What? So this Jesuit Black Pope, um, how is this, like, you know, do the do the heads of state of all countries, yeah, even if they're not religious, yeah? And they still bow, except for the Middle Eastern, Middle Eastern guys don't, they don't. They don't rock with them. They don't, yeah, but Russia, yeah, those, anything that's ever had a Catholic church,

Billy Carson 37:21
Anything that's ever had a Catholic church, they bow down to the Black Pope. The Black Pope has the ultimate power, still, to this very day, still okays and makes decisions on a lot of things going on in the world, even economic decisions as well. And it's a dark thing. I think I posted about five years ago the Oath of the super Jesuit Black Pope on my Facebook page, on forbidden on his Facebook page. I got to pull it up and send it to you. It's crazy. This is the actual oath from the Vatican that this Black Pope reads to get initiated into his priesthood for that role that he'll play. It's super dark, dark, dark, so, but this is public knowledge. Yeah, it is public knowledge.

Alex Ferrari 38:04
It's not like a this is not like behind

Billy Carson 38:07
Public it's in your face. But nobody goes. Nobody even knows it's there. So they don't go look it up. But I took it right from the Vatican's website. How much stuff do they have in those archives? Oh, listen, they have five miles of underground archives.

Alex Ferrari 38:21
Five miles, five miles. A lot of wall. That's Walmart's.

Billy Carson 38:25
That's a lot of Walmart. They got a huge bunker down there. And you know where else they have a bunker? They have a bunker in America. I believe it's in Arizona. They invested in they bought a huge piece of land. It's either in Arizona or Nevada desert area, they brought a telescope. They had it built, custom built by some incredible tech guys, and it's called the Lucifer telescope.

Alex Ferrari 38:48
Oh, fantastic. A plus on the naming, great branding, by the way, great brand.

Billy Carson 38:54
The light bearer. Yeah, right. So they got the Lucifer telescope, but underneath the Lucifer telescope is a massive underground bunker, massive and the Vatican's assistant, as you know, for aerospace and tech, says that they're, you know, looking, actively, looking for aliens, and that the Pope can't wait to baptize the first Alien. This is public, a public press release by the Vatican that anybody could look up that baptized. They want to baptize

Alex Ferrari 39:21
Because the alien needs Jesus, right? I hate this is the thing. And I've said this in the show many times, and I'll say it again and again. Is when I was sitting in the front of St Peter's Basilica, and I'm looking around and I'm seeing everything and Well, this has nothing to do with Jesus, nothing zero, like it has nothing to do with Jesus.

Billy Carson 39:45
It's not even the same category,

Alex Ferrari 39:47
No, nothing like nothing, nothing that the Roman Catholic church ever had is done has to do with Jesus. That's about power and control and their own agenda. It has nothing to do with it. Yeah, when I discovered about this, the Council of Nicaea, when I discovered about all the other councils, right? About writing and building the Bible and, you know, like editing things out, like no reincarnation. We can't have that. That's not good for control, right? Oh, this Lucifer thing, that was good because, let's listen the health thing. But the Old Testament doesn't have anything about hell. The Jews never that. They don't. There was no Hell yeah. Like, we need something.

Billy Carson 40:22
Gotta have something.

Alex Ferrari 40:23
We gotta have something. Then there was, like, a writer's room, yeah? Like a TV show.

Billy Carson 40:27
Keep them on the edge,

Alex Ferrari 40:28
Keep them what do we got? Oh, let's go hell Dante, come over here,

Billy Carson 40:32
An eternal lake of fire. Dante's fire.

Alex Ferrari 40:35
Oh, yeah, Jesus said something about that lake. Let's use that. We'll call that. Hell yeah, it's, the more you dig, and the more you know I've done this show, and I talk to people like yourself, I start going down these rabbit holes, and you just start going, Man, this whole thing is just,

Billy Carson 40:50
It's a joke. It's insane. I mean, look at the rapture doctrine, that these people are literally waiting to be raptured into heaven, and they believe that during this special day, that the infidels will be left here on Earth, right, because that's where God works, and they'll be sucked away into heaven, sure. And even the dead in Christ will be sucked out of the ground, and their spirits will be transferred into heaven. But that was added by a guy named Mr. Darby in the 1800s I believe. And he actually was a publisher, and he added a cliff note to the Bible. Now, some preachers saw it and said, Man, this could be powerful preaching. This good, this good, yeah, that's right. Work with this. That's right. So they worked it into the doctrine and started reprinting. And the next, you know, it became part of, like, actual doctrine and teaching where people are sitting back, kicking their feet up, watching the world burn, waiting for this special rapture that whisked them away into this heavenly kingdom.

Alex Ferrari 41:40
It was just written by publishers and books. That's all it was. That's all it was. And that's the thing I always find so fascinating about religion in general, that, like my God and I believe that we're the chosen people, not you,

Billy Carson 41:54
Right! Yeah, right.

Alex Ferrari 41:54
We're the chosen. Oh yeah, you're the chosen. We're the chosen people. Um, I believe in this. So because I believe in this, the Almighty only loves me, right though he created you and the rest of everybody else he likes me. Yeah, you're special. It seems a little egotistical.

Billy Carson 42:12
What about the promised land that he gave me? Yeah, of course, it's he gave me this land. And you know what this land is, our land, and we can take this land by any means necessary, even if it means killing you to take this land because it's God's promise, manifested manifest destiny. Manifest Manifest Destiny,

Alex Ferrari 42:30
Manifest destiny. There it is. Yeah, that was a whole That was lovely, wasn't it like yeah, that gave everybody excuse to kill people, right, and steal their land. Facts, it's God, Billy.

Billy Carson 42:41
Absolute facts, and it's all just men fabricating information and giving preaching it out as if it came from the creator of the universe when it didn't.

Alex Ferrari 42:50
Because the more I dig, that's why I've always kind of leaned much more towards the Eastern philosophies, even Hinduism and Buddhism, they didn't have as much fear based, though there's a little bit of it in Hinduism, but there's a lot of it and but different, yeah. But you start digging into the yogi yogic philosophies. God is all, all loving, all powerful, all everything, yeah. And you are him, yes. You are part of and I see I say him, for lack of a better word, but you are source. Everything is part of of that energy. Yeah, and when I hurt you, I'm hurting myself. Facts, you know, it's a completely different mindset. Then I am the I can't wait to baptize the alien. Are you out of your mind?

Billy Carson 43:38
And if you're not baptized, you're not really living in Christ and and all

Alex Ferrari 43:42
Started when my when my kids were born, my parents were just like, oh, man, are you just in case? I'm like, no, just in case.

Billy Carson 43:52
It's all divide and conquer tactics. You know, it's all the you know, I'm Baptist and you're Pentecostal, so we're better than you.

Alex Ferrari 44:01
Oh, no, yeah. And then within Christianity, yeah, then there's, like, 45 secs, yeah, and they're all fighting with each other. It's, it's absolutely fascinating. Wow. Now, one, one area I've never really talked about on the show, and I hopefully you have some information about it, is the Ethiopian Bible, yeah. And the Ethiopian Christianity in general. I mean, you and I grew up in a time when you hear Ethiopia, you see the videos, yeah, you know the kids starving stomachs. Yeah, all that's that that was burned into our Yeah, that's what our parents told today. That's, that's what our parents told us when we didn't want to eat our vegetables. Yeah, there's kids starving in Ethiopia, right? So, that's all most people think about when they think about Ethiopia. But recently, though, and I might say recently, maybe it's recently, because I just realized that a while ago, but there's the Ethiopian church Bible, and then we'll get into the ark of the covenant after so can you talk a little bit about. What's so different about the Ethiopian Bible?

Billy Carson 45:03
Sure, absolutely. Now Ethiopia has black Jews. The origin of actually, the black Jews is in Ethiopia. And then you have the it's spurred off into this form of Christianity as well, where they actually have the one of the most complete Bibles that exist, right? And they have the full book of Enoch in the Ethiopian Bible. It's the only Bible that has the Book of Enoch in it. All the Bibles around the world, the Book of Enoch was left out. That's the angels Azazel, you know, all the fallen angels that came down and, you know, they taught people how to Azazel came out. So let me show you how to make these weapons, right? Quick. Let me show you how to make a sword that'll slice a man's head off and make a shield that could repel any blade. I mean, this is crazy. This so, so but they have it in there, and you find out that these fallen angels, quote, unquote, aliens, come down on earth and start engaging mankind in a way that sets us on this other trajectory, technologically, spiritually and emotionally and everything else, they literally violated like a prime directive to not engage. And they engage. And because of that, they created a cargo cult here, where people are worshiping beings, thinking that they were godly, and everything else. But in the fact is, they were just masquerading as gods. But then the Ethiopian Bible, there's a lot of information that's mistranslated that you can see the differences that from the mistranslated version of the King James and the new new the new whatever translation Bible. They got so many names for these Bibles down in America, but that you can see where in the Ethiopian Bible the text is different. Certain paragraphs, certain verses are completely different. Certain verses are there and certain verses aren't even there. They don't even exist. So you can see where the remix came on this side, the Eminem remix. Yeah, remakes. Listen, they came with it. They remixed that thing, and they changed a lot of things up and added some stuff that don't even exist. In the Sinai Bible, there's 14,000 differences between the Sinai Bible and the King James Bible. The Sinai the Sinai Bible predates the King James version by hundreds of years, or maybe even almost 1000 years. And how about Ethiopian where's that Ethiopian Bibles around the same time as the Sinai Bible, that same age range, they're both older, hence, their information is probably closer to the truth than the newer versions, because the newer versions got the Council of Nicaea and everything else in them. And in Sinai Bible, there wasn't even a there wasn't even a crucifixion, really, yeah, no crucifixion in the Sinai Bible, yeah.

Alex Ferrari 47:30
So how did Jesus? Would Jesus what happened to Jesus?

Billy Carson 47:32
Well, it's interesting that they did find the book of Jesus's wife, which is at the Harvard seminary now.

Alex Ferrari 47:39
Okay, all right, hold on. Let's back up here for a second. Now, I'm a good, I'm a good, I'm not a good Catholic boy anymore. I'm a bad Catholic. I'm a horrible, recovering Catholic. And I under, I've heard the stories of Mary Magdalene. Was not the ho right, but was actually his wife, yeah? And ascended master now, and she was, you know, her and Mary had a lot to do with what was going on. There's a, I didn't know about, there's a book,

Billy Carson 48:05
Book of Jesus's wife, which was discovered, I don't know, maybe 15 years ago or something like that.

Alex Ferrari 48:05
Oh, really. So it's recent,

Billy Carson 48:11
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Alex Ferrari 48:12
Where do they find it?

Billy Carson 48:13
Somewhere over there, you know, some cave or something, or whatever,

Alex Ferrari 48:16
Some scroll somewhere, yeah, but it's in the Harvard,

Billy Carson 48:19
Harvard seminary, yeah.

Alex Ferrari 48:21
And what does that book say?

Billy Carson 48:22
Well, it's talking about the fact that Jesus apparently got married, and doesn't say that he had he had any kids, but potentially he probably had kids, and the mirror Benjy and bloodline is probably still walking to earth till this very day.

Alex Ferrari 48:35
Very Da Vinci Code, yeah, very Da Vinci Code in that sense, very. So Okay, let's talk about the crucifixion, because that's a great story, yeah? And, I mean, we're gonna probably step on a few people's toes on this conversation, but if that is just a story about what happened, I mean, it's a great I mean, just as a filmmaker and a storyteller, great arc, yeah, great everything. It does definitely help control people more, as opposed to he rode off into the sunset with his wife. I had a couple kids, wrote a book or two, and that's it.

Billy Carson 49:16
Yeah, it's very dramatic. Let's take a look at just bare bones logic. Okay, God is all knowing, all loving, according to Christians and Catholics, right? All Knowing, all loving. Now, if he's all knowing and all loving, omniscient and omnipotent and all powerful, and He's created us, and for whatever reason, he can't just come down and give us a good lesson, like, when you have a kid like my kids, I would sit them down, and I would go over things with them and explain things to them and make sure they understand. And if they do make a mistake, I teach them the right way to do things so they don't go back and duplicate that mistake again. But apparently this all knowing, all loving, creator of multiverses, just can't seem to communicate well. He has a communication problem. So it so it says to he, or you gotta say he, he says to himself, I got an idea, since I'm poor, I'm a poor communicator, I'll have a son, and then I'll slaughter him, and that blood from him being slaughtered will clear the sins of everyone in the entire world, only if they bow down to me or bow down to him. I mean, it's very cynical. It's really, it's really a very dark story. It's really very evil, if you really want

Alex Ferrari 50:30
It is an evil story. But if we go down, I agree with you, I agree with what you're saying. But if we go down, that the logic that that we are we are down here to learn lessons and to grow and all of that stuff. And we have free will. Having someone intercede like God doesn't work with that narrative. So that logic, as far as him not coming down, but the whole Sun thing, I'm all about with you. I'm like, I'm down. Does that make sense? What I said?

Billy Carson 50:59
Oh, it makes sense, yeah, but he accidentally, somehow can't stop his own people that he created in heaven, stop them from coming down and engaging us, non stop. So we have this free will and all this, and no, and there should be no engagement. There should be this. You know, we shouldn't be engaged by any, anybody or anything from up there. But all of a sudden, they're continuously contacting us, and they're continuously teaching us how to kill each other and everything else. And the angels in the Bible are getting drunk and having sex with men and women and everything else. I mean, was just a smorgasbord of stuff going on. But he couldn't just snap his finger and say, Hey guys, I'm gonna make you disappear. Come back up here with me. You can't go down there anymore. You're violating the prime directive. But he couldn't do that either. So, you know, just makes you scratch your head like something's wrong with this. But what about in the in the Old Testament, where I think it was Abraham, he sends him into the mountain to kill his son, and he's trying to see, he's trying to judge, to see, maybe his name wasn't, I can't remember exactly it might think about was Abraham, though, but he sends him into the mountain too, and says, I want you to go ahead and sacrifice your son. To me. Yeah. And this guy is suffering the whole time, and he's he finally gets his son in position, and he's got the knife up, and he's getting ready to thrive drive it through his son's throat, and then God goes, no, no No, no, no, just Josh. I'm just, I just want to see if he was faithful,

Alex Ferrari 52:12
All of that stuff does not make any sense. Zero, I mean, we're parents, yeah, never will I tell my kid, I need you to slit your your siblings right neck. Come on, because I want to make sure you're loyal to me, right come on. And then, just before they take the talk about some therapy.

Billy Carson 52:35
That's lifetime trauma that's that's going to go into the epigenetic memory, that's real generational trauma that was caused by that incident.

Alex Ferrari 52:43
So, and that's the thing about a lot of these, a lot of these religious texts that are within the last 2000 years, let's say, is that there's so many holes in the plot, yes, and these holes are now starting to be shown and light shined on this. I these ideas where people now are just like, This doesn't make any sense. Yeah, kids are coming out. This new generation's coming out. They're like, I'm not going what you want me to go sit down listen to this dude talk to me something. I mean, unless it's a communal thing, like you want to have community, and, yeah, that's a different there's religion does well for a lot of people, it does. There's no doubt about that. There's religion does well for a lot of people, and it's not like a broad stroke, but for others that, you know, like, I remember when I was in first grade going to church. I'm like, What is like, up and down and the kneel and then this and the death, it was just so much ceremony and pompous pomp and circumstance. I was just like, it doesn't make any sense, you know, so, as opposed to 100 years ago, you could we, you and I would have both been lynched.

Billy Carson 53:47
Oh, listen, I've been burning the steak they'd have burned,

Alex Ferrari 53:49
Which were warlocks, wherever you're having these conversations 100 200 years ago. So, but humanity has kind of evolved a bit, because that is this new shifting of our consciousness. Would you agree?

Billy Carson 54:01
Oh, absolutely. We're we're shifting consciously spiritually. We're growing more spiritually now than we have ever had before. And what that means is that we're, it's not that the whole world is spiritual, but more people are more apt to grasp spiritual concepts. And in other words, in spirituality, we're talking about understanding the divine nature of themselves, understanding that they have the power in themselves, understanding that they were sent here to save themselves. That's a huge epiphany moment, that instead of begging some outside source for forgiveness, realizing, Hey, I screwed up, I gotta take accountability for what I did, let me learn from this mistake. Let me get let me get a better understanding of how I did it and why I did it, and let me learn from it, and don't duplicate that again. That's how you become born again, born again in the Spirit, and you'll be born again many times in one lifetime, and you'll be able to look back on yourself and realize I was down here. Now I'm all the way up here because I've grown spiritually in conjunction, I'm becoming an Ascended Master. And that's what being born again really. Is all about not somebody splashing water on you. Okay, so that's just, you know, that just doesn't do anything for you, but gets you wet. And now that people are realizing that in these younger generation, they're really grasping these principles and beginning to really do get into meditation, you know, get into trauma work and therapy. They're not afraid of therapy. They're open. Imagine our generation, oh my god, therapy. Imagine our parents going to therapy shrinks. Are you going to a shrink? It was like, Are you crazy? Yeah, you're crazy, huh?

Alex Ferrari 55:31
It's like, shut it down like the rest of us, yeah, and I'll just beat you right every other day, right? Exactly. And we just move on with

Billy Carson 55:39
Facts. And, you know, and it is a quick thing. There's an illusion that the youth aren't progressing like that because of the news and the media. They only show the crazy kids on TV, right, rioting and stealing things out of stores. But let me tell you something. There are literally billions of kids on this planet that are looking and thriving and looking for the light, seeking the light and trying to become a better version of themselves, not only what you see on Instagram feeds and the news,

Alex Ferrari 56:07
Absolutely thank you for saying that, because you're absolutely right. I see it in I see it in the analytics of the show. Yeah, I see a lot of younger teens and younger people, even my kids, friends who know I have a show, yeah? Will be like, hey, you know, I was watching this episode and with Billy, and it was pretty cool there. It's just making them think about things in a completely different way. But they, they're, they're kind of keen on the whole yeah scam, almost Oh yeah. When, before we even talk to them, yeah, they're just like this. This doesn't make a lot

Billy Carson 56:44
Of sense, man.

Alex Ferrari 56:45
So you want me to go to a four year school and you want me to spend $180,000 for a job that might pay me 60 Yeah, if I can find the job, and then I can't get rid of this debt? Yeah. It sounds like prison to me. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Billy Carson 57:01
They know

Alex Ferrari 57:02
One of my kids showed, I swear to God, I didn't even show. I didn't even mean to do this. Yeah? She came up. She's like, Dad, I want you to see this. And she goes, he goes, this is a picture of a classroom in 1910 Oh, man, there's a picture of a classroom right now. What the hell, dad. I'm like, I didn't do it, yeah? But, see, that's the kind of stuff that they're figuring out, yeah, yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's mind blowing. Man, now going back to Ethiopia, um, there's a lot of hoopla around the Ark of the Covenant down there, because I've seen, I've seen the doc, where they're like, oh, we have it, yeah, we have it. And like, anyone goes near it like whoever guards it dies of cancer because there's a radiation thing. No one's allowed in it, right? What's your what's your take on? The first of all, what was the Ark of a covenant? Do they have it? Were there four or five of them running around?

Billy Carson 57:53
Okay, so the Ark of the Covenant is this technological device that created immense power and gave up a lot of radiation. And we know this because of the way that it's described in the biblical text. If you didn't have on the right clothes, rubber boots, and the different types of breast plates you have had on gloves, rubber gloves, and everything else to handle it, it would shock you and kill you instantly. And if you or if you were exposed to it too long, it would give you radiation, or the signs of radiation sickness, right, hair falling out, and fingernails falling out, eyes bleeding and so forth and so on. And so they had this device that was this powerhouse for them. But it wasn't the only one. There were several ARKS of the covenant. One of them was located inside the Great Pyramid inside the king's chamber, there's a stone rose granite box in the king's chamber that are the exact same dimensions in cubits as Ark of the Covenant. It was, it was added later because the pyramid had lost its ability to generate the full power. So they put the ark in that rose granite box to add the extra technological piece so it can continue to produce electricity. So this thing was very important. That's the main reason why Moses was chased. When he fled Egypt, he went and took the Ark of the Covenant out of the king's chamber of the Great Pyramid. And the Pharaoh was like, damn, I let you go. And now you took our power source. We need that back. And so they chased him down. He didn't cross the Red Sea. That's another one of those remixes. He crossed the Sea of Reeds. When you go look at the Aramaic version, a much closer and smaller sea, and then if you look at, look at the tectonic plates on USGS and all the other gov sites that show you all the tectonic plate movement, you can do a geological rewind in that region. And you discover around that same time period that the biblical text is talking about this story, there was a plate, a tectonic plate slippage, which would have caused a tsunami. And when you have a tsunami, it sucks all the water out, and you can walk across dry land, and it brings it crashing back, just like it says in the biblical text. So it probably was a tsunami. Nobody's standing there with magic powers, but pretty interesting. So this ark is important. That's the point I'm making. It's very, very important. Now this church down in Ethiopia, according to. One of the docks that came on. And that's really a sad thing that happened. I really, I believe that they did have an ark, or a version of the Ark of the Covenant there, but the the people, when they, when they highlighted it being located there, and even showed the picture of the church where it was at, and how it was being guarded by these, these guys, these guard men. Yeah, I was gonna say guard is sitting there. You're using that term loosely, yeah, they just sitting there watching in robes all day. They got these guys couldn't even do five push ups, right? These are old men, and then they just exposed where it was, and supposedly not too much longer after that Doc ended it was stolen, yeah, it was taken away. Somebody went in there, and they just literally walked in and walked out with it. Nobody could stop them. I mean, there was no cops, there's no cops to call. There's no police over there. So they just walked out with that thing, and it's never been seen again. That's one of the Arks that are covenant. So these things were powerful. Now, some scientists at a university in America, and I think one even in Canada, recreated the Ark based off of the specs just out of the biblical text. And it drew so much power and energy they had to shut it down. So they rebuilt it. They rebuilt it.

Alex Ferrari 1:01:08
So it's just because they built it out of the specs of it. Yeah, the specs so the material it was made out of, and

Billy Carson 1:01:14
The size, the dimensions, the, you know, the two Cherubims, which were really to harness arc. It was the arc. The the arc was really the electric arc of electricity, jumping from one to the next. And but you can watch the video on YouTube. They recreated this arc. It's available. You can just pull it up and look it right up.

Alex Ferrari 1:01:33
What, what was the technology? What was it? What was it touching? What was it grabbing onto? For the power

Billy Carson 1:01:39
For them? It's just electricity.

Alex Ferrari 1:01:41
No, but like, how? Like, what is it from the air? What's for the

Billy Carson 1:01:46
For the actual arc that was in the biblical text, I believe it was some type of radioactive material that was creating the power generation for the electricity. Now, when they did that, they did it with batteries, and they did it by plugging it in, and it drew so much power, it even shut down the lights.

Alex Ferrari 1:02:01
So the design of it is so perfectly designed that plugging in any electricity is going to just amp it up. It amps it. But what they did back in the in the olden days, or there was some sort of radiation, yeah, in there, Mercury has a lot. There's talks a lot about mercury in the in the great pyramids and things like that.

Billy Carson 1:02:18
Oh, yeah, till, till con had mercury in it as well. That's a ferrofluid, a liquid metal. And you see this mercury popping up all over the place throughout ancient times, which is extremely poisonous, yeah, extremely poor. I mean, extremely toxic. You can't even touch it with your hands.

Alex Ferrari 1:02:33
Can you imagine they that's they used to give that to you as a kid, as a thermometer, bro, crazy. You wanna hear a quick story? Yeah? So I didn't want to go school, and then I put that thing on a light bulb. Oh, and it popped right off. Oh man, and the mercury came out. I never touched it. It just fell on the floor. Yeah, yeah. But I just saw it go.

Billy Carson 1:02:48
Oh man. Can you imagine dangerous? Yeah, it was we, you know, we're lucky to be here. No, no. How our generation in general is we grew up in an era with with no seat belts, lead with candles, which gave me lead poisoning, by the way, wow, yeah, I got lead poison. All my hair fell out and everything like took me to the hospital. What's going on? They took a blood sample. It was lead poisoning, come to find out, was the lead wick can? They're banned now. You can't even have a lead with Canon lead wick candle anymore. In America.

Alex Ferrari 1:03:15
My grandfather smoked cigars, and the entire room like this would be filled with Yes. And I'm three, yeah, yeah. I'm three playing in a cloud of cigars.

Billy Carson 1:03:24
Our ceiling was yellow. From the from the, no no, from the from the cigarettes.

Alex Ferrari 1:03:29
Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, that's the now we're really aging ourselves smoking on airplanes, because that curtain helped. Remember that curtain that hope you're smoking, yeah, yeah, keep it all over there, please. Right, right. Oh, my God. Like, no seat belts,

Billy Carson 1:03:44
Like drinking out of the water hose.

Alex Ferrari 1:03:47
I mean, well, I mean, that's just, that's how we're I think that's just helped our immune system, right? Yeah, it's fascinating how we, how we survived. I always like to tell my kids, I'm like, you know, back in the day, the newscaster would come on at 10 o'clock and say, what would he say? Which one? Every, every time. Oh, man, it's 10 o'clock. Do you know where your kids are?

Billy Carson 1:04:09
Oh man, you know you're right. They would have to remind our parents that we have kids, yeah. And after, and after that, it would go to white, white snow, white snow.

Alex Ferrari 1:04:18
Or the, or the Indian, the Indian with the, you know, kind of like, the like, yeah, you know what, talking about the thing to check focus and all that stuff, color bars and stuff like that. Oh yeah, the color

Billy Carson 1:04:32
Noise, yeah, that's just

Alex Ferrari 1:04:33
Snow, yeah?

Billy Carson 1:04:34
But you're right, yeah, we're old bro, crazy.

Alex Ferrari 1:04:40
So I wanted to just dive real quick back into to Yeshua, because one of my favorite topics is to talk about the time that he was born. Then last story we hear is he's 13, and then then there's yada yada yada, he shows up on a donkey, the yadda yadda. Of yada is the part that I always have. I always ask question about when I was in Catholic I asked my priest, so what happened during that time? He's like, we don't talk about that, yeah, yeah. Where's the book? Oh, we don't, yeah, yeah. Is there any historical documents that talk about that time in Jesus's life?

Billy Carson 1:05:18
Yeah, the gospel of the holy 12.

Alex Ferrari 1:05:21
Where's that that?

Billy Carson 1:05:22
You can buy it on Amazon. Okay, yeah, it's now, there's two versions. One is the gospel of holy 12 with the one two. That's not the story of the Jesus. That's a whole nother thing. But there's some independent publisher. But there's the gospel of the holy 12 spelled out, T, W, E, L, V, E, that's the actual text. And you discover that he goes to Egypt to live there with his mother. He's in the Mystery Schools, and I take people to Coptic Cairo every year. I'll be there in a few more weeks to take people to see the bed he slept in. It's a it's like a shrine. Now, instead of one of the Coptic churches where he was hiding out and living with his mom, and then when you come out of that Coptic Church, there's this huge steel sign with the path and the locations that he stayed at as he lived throughout Egypt. And he's learning the Egyptian mysteries there. He then leaves there, and he goes to Tibet to learn Reiki healing and Qigong and healing with the hands and energy healing with his body. And that was confirmed by the Dalai Lama. Then he goes down into India to learn the Mystic Arts, and he's teaching reincarnation all the way back to Egypt. Then the Bible picks up, I call my Son out of Egypt, and then he rides it on the back of a donkey in Jerusalem, proclaims himself to be the Messiah. So that's the missing piece. The missing piece is where he was, and he was learning a lot of stuff.

Alex Ferrari 1:06:33
Did he proclaim himself as the Messiah?

Billy Carson 1:06:36
Well, that's what they say. I have never seen Jesus. I never see where he just walks in, I'm your Messiah now!

Alex Ferrari 1:06:41
Like that doesn't seem like, based on the teachings that I've read about Jesus, he doesn't seem like that egotistical dude going, I'm the Messiah, yeah, you got to be at a special place in your life to call yourself the Messiah, yeah. I mean, and I worked in Hollywood, yeah,

Billy Carson 1:06:57
Yeah. He called himself the Son of Man,

Alex Ferrari 1:06:59
Which, that is a little bit, yeah, a little bit more humble.

Billy Carson 1:06:59
And what's interesting is, look at the Emerald Tablets of Thoth, written 36,000 years ago. He calls himself the Son of Atlantis, okay? And he also calls himself a son of man in several verses in the Emerald Tablets. Why would he say that? What in the world's going on? What's the correlation between Jesus and this guy. I've never heard anybody else say that. So for those two people, say that they're the Son of Man, and also thought says he son of Atlantis.

Alex Ferrari 1:07:28
So Jesus, also, a lot of the things that I heard about him, well, I mean, read about him in the Bible and so on, the miracles seem very yogic. Yeah, they're yogic powers, essentially, you know, manifestation. A lot of the stuff that he talked that they say that were miracles. You read Autobiography of Yogi, and then you go down that yogic path. And, like this seems very, yeah, yogic,

Billy Carson 1:07:53
Yeah, very yogic. And also some things like the resurrection of Lazarus. I mean, the guy could have been in a in a Komodo state, or he could have been in a state where he had a reduced heart rate. A lot of people died back then we thought they were dead. They weren't even close to being dead. I mean, still people pop out of their caskets. Today, somebody popped out of their casket two weeks ago. They were alive still. So wait a minute. So what happened back then? Maybe he just did. He learned CPR. Maybe he preferred something, not preferred, but he actually did something to the chest, or some energy healing, energy healing. And, you know, I mean, whatever. So there's so many possibilities, but we always want to mystify things, and we always want to turn it into some kind of special magic. And it's always ironic that if you get into a car accident, or somebody you know loved when you know it gets into a car accident, right? We got to pray, and if the person makes it, it was God. The doctor had nothing to do with it, right? And then if the person dies, it was Lord's will.

Alex Ferrari 1:08:50
Come on, it was the doctor's fault too.

Billy Carson 1:08:52
Yeah. So it's pretty interesting.

Alex Ferrari 1:08:55
I always found it fascinating when I was on a football team back in the day, yeah, where it was a Catholic football Yeah? And they were just like, let's pray, yeah, Lord, please guide us into pummeling our opponents, I know, and destroying them. Yeah? You know, we love them, but you know, be on our side. Right? Like, it's, it's the same thing as two warring factions, like, my God's on my side and it's not on your side, it made notes, even then I'm like, but that's got kids over there too. That makes no sense.

Billy Carson 1:09:26
Complete brainwashing and ignorance for a person to think that the creator of a universe who's out there continuously, because the Creator never stops creating, well, we're creators, so you stop creating anything? Yeah, I'm every day, built this whole studio you still want to create on another level. Think about that. You're next level, the next level, the next level, right? Yeah, and you're going to continue to create and create, sure. So we're just a fractal of God, sure. So that means God is creating non stop. Let me stop creating for a moment, because there's a football team over here in, in, in Mitsubishi land, and I need to go to fly. Down there, and I got to help them out and make sure they win this. I mean, come on, this is just craziness for us to think that God is here to help us fight wars and is here to help us win games and help our favorite team win the game and help us win the lottery, and we're trying to turn God into a slave. That's true.

Alex Ferrari 1:10:17
That's true. I mean, a lot of the I mean, when you pray for something, you pray for something, yeah, now there's, I mean, there's a lot of great energy out there in the sense of, like, you know, my, you know, have a relative who's dying. My kid got hurt. You want to be able to, like, Lord, please help my child, you know, please get them through this. I get all that that makes all the sense in the world. We've been there,

Billy Carson 1:10:37
We've been there.

Alex Ferrari 1:10:38
We've all been there. We've been there. You know, Everyone, everyone finds Jesus when they have a problem, everyone finds Jesus

Billy Carson 1:10:46
Hit that desperation mode.

Alex Ferrari 1:10:47
When? Where that when they're in there in Positano, yeah, and the Amalfi Coast, on their yacht, yeah, you know, you know, drinking champagne, eating lobster all night, they're like, they're not looking for Jesus. Generally speaking, no, generally speaking. So it's always that part. But from what I hear from the near death experiencers I've spoken to and psychic mediums and channelers, is that prayer does have a power. Oh, yeah, it does. There is a power to because it's a power of thought and intention, and it does affect the material world. And that, according to near death experiencers, those those prayers, do go somewhere, and they do have an effect, oh, yeah, to a certain extent, not in the way we think it is like, Please Lord, let me. Let me get a seven

Billy Carson 1:11:36
Snake Eyes

Alex Ferrari 1:11:39
Karma. Damn Carmen from another life, but different way. Does that make sense?

Billy Carson 1:11:48
Oh, it makes total sense. I tell people all the time, prayer is good, and prayer actually works if you know how to pray. I said, the reason why a lot of prayers aren't working the way they are turning out, the way that we would like them to, is because you have to understand when you pray, you're trying to cast a spell, whether they want to admit it or not. If you're praying, you're trying to cast a spell. You're trying to utter words and use conscious thoughts so they're going to alter your future reality in the third dimension, you're trying to cast a spell and change things, no matter what it is and but if you don't know how to cast the right spells, you can't create the change, not the proper change. You'll get some result, but you won't get the total result. That's why I lean more towards the east. What are their method of praying? It is done, right? It is actually done. That's the full prayer. When I when I grasped and understood exactly what they meant, I realized that from now on, my prayers I command, so that's my prayer. When I got on the plane to come here today, I literally got on the plane, I sat down, I closed my eyes and envisioned the flight path from my house to this airport. And I said to myself, I command a safe takeoff and a safe landing, and I command I make it to my destination safely. I didn't say, oh, please Lord, and you know, please allow everything to work out right, and the plane can take off and and we, you know, we don't crash and all this, no, that's low frequency. If I put a cap, an EEG cap, on your head, and have you start begging and praying to God, it's going to give me a low cosine wave on the computer. It's capturing your light waves. Your conscious thoughts are being sent to a computer. If I put that same EEG cap on your head and have you stand up and stick your chest out and say, I command my realities into existence. I command I make it through this situation, I'm going to see a very high close and cosine wave on the computer. Means you're in a high frequency state of mind. Now what's the difference high frequency to the universe is going to give you a mirror back of high frequency. Low frequency is going to give you back a mirror of low frequency under the law of attraction. If you're in a low frequency, you're going to have a problem for every solution. But when you flip that switch and go to a high frequency state of mind, positivity and love and light and everything else is going to come your way. Opportunities, situations are going to change. You're going to bend the matrix to your will. And so people don't understand there's a way to pray. And I pray every single day, multiple times a day, but I'm not praying the same way to somebody else. I'm not getting on my knees and groveling and crying and begging, hoping and wishing. I'm commanding my realities into existence moment by moment, because the power of the Creator is inside of me,

Alex Ferrari 1:14:17
Right! Which is basically a manifestation, manifestation. It's, it's the proper way that the secret should have been done, yes, but the secret did have a lot of benefit. It opened up a lot of minds to this. Yeah? Regardless, people are like, Why didn't I get my bike? You know? Why didn't I get because you're not doing it right,

Billy Carson 1:14:36
Yeah, yeah. You got the there's a calculator. I have the shirt on. This is my manifestation shirt, C, T, which is conscious thought multiplied by A equals m. Conscious thought multiplied by action equals manifestation.

Alex Ferrari 1:14:49
That's beautiful. Yeah, that's very true. That's the thing that they didn't get. Like,

Billy Carson 1:14:53
There's action,

Alex Ferrari 1:14:55
Part of the equation. That's not an easy sell. Yeah, that's not an easy sell.

Billy Carson 1:14:59
Look. Man,

Alex Ferrari 1:15:01
I just wanted to get the lottery ticket lottery numbers. Man, but that was the thing with manifestation. So it's very It's fascinating. Man, how human beings are.

Billy Carson 1:15:11
Yeah, we always want the easy route and the shortcut.

Alex Ferrari 1:15:14
So you spoke about the Thoth and the Emerald Tablets. For those who have not listened, we've spoken about in our other episodes a bit. But I've really never dug into the actual tablets that you know. You know, if you go on Etsy, you could buy a green tablet, which is nice one. You have exactly one of those tablets. But so how? Because it doesn't exist currently, that we know of, right, that an actual tablet,

Billy Carson 1:15:37
The tablets, the Emerald Tablet, singular, is in the Cambridge library. So there is an emerald out there is this, there's a tablet. There's an idea. There's another book of tablets that are located in the in the Vatican archives.

Alex Ferrari 1:15:50
Okay, so that, so at least, at least one of those Vatican archives, we can't tell, because no one's ever allowed again, but in Cambridge, that is an actual people you could, you could verify that. Yeah, so there is, there is an Emerald Tablet. Okay, I always wondered about that. I'm like, where is the tablet, right? What happened to it? Yeah. How old is it supposedly? How old is it supposedly

Billy Carson 1:16:08
36 to 38,000 years old.

Alex Ferrari 1:16:11
So that's not possible, because we were only born, like 6000 years ago. So I don't understand, did you not read the Bible?

Billy Carson 1:16:16
The earth is only 6000 years old.

Alex Ferrari 1:16:18
I mean, it's flat. I could see. Do you see a curve anywhere? Do you see a curve anywhere? That's gonna get some comments. Oh, man, um, it's, you know what's interesting, though, and we'll get back to the Emerald habits in a second. But I heard someone say something. I don't know if it was I might have been on my show. It might have, I think it might have been a channel who I was talking to, and they said something was so powerful that the, you know, people who believe in something like the Earth is flat, that is so provable that it's not or a lot of conspiracy, conspiracy theories, what They are connecting to on an on an energetic level, is that they know something's wrong, that there's something off with what they're being told, yeah, and this is how they're manifesting it, right in their in their life. And I thought I was like, wow. And that was like a channeled being coming through, right, saying that, I was like, Wow. That's really because there's a lot of that going on. Yeah. A lot of people listening to us think that we're talking about things that are conspiracy theories. Absolutely, there's a lot of people who think that, and I tend not to go down that road. I don't, I don't have my tinfoil hat on at moment. Yeah, yeah. I try to keep everything as as grounded as humanly possible. But also, but also, opening up questions, conversations, yeah, and things like that. But isn't that interesting that they that there's things that that were that there's a rise in consciousness, but some people can't grasp it, so they just manifest there's something wrong in this other fashion, and they become a fanatic at that thing, right? They go down deep rabbit holes on those things.

Billy Carson 1:18:02
I'm extremely fanatical. These are people that are susceptible to fanaticism that they couldn't they can't grasp some of the concepts that actually exist and some of the things that are being taught. And then they can grasp one thing, like you say, Something is off, and they will latch on to that one thing, even if it's been disproven a trillion times, which it has actually with lasers recently. With lasers has been disproven, but go up and look at the curvature, I know, but yeah, even with lasers has been described just just a few weeks ago. But anyway, but that, but that does, they will never let it go, because this only thing they're holding on to is all they've got left to, and they become fanatics at it. And so, you know, in that regard, I have some empathy for those people, because they're really struggling with that thing. It's, it's traumatizing for them. This is not something easy for them. It's actually traumatizing them. It's haunting their almost every thought on a daily basis. And, you know, it's unfortunate. It doesn't mean that they're bad people or anything like that. But I have, has, I have had some death threats from flat earth people, and it told me they were going to shoot me in the head and kill me and everything at my conference and so forth. But, but for the most part, I think most of them are just people, just trying to find some sensibility of the world itself and their place in it.

Alex Ferrari 1:19:13
Well, I think that's the thing that happens to I think that's a human, a very human thing is that if I wrap my, my belief system, around anything, whether that rich people are bad, I'm the dumb, chosen person. What a religion, a philosophy. My whole world is around that. And if you crack a hole in that, it shakes my foundation tracks. So if I shakes my foundation, I must defend myself, whether I'm like, You're the problem not, not looking inward, yeah, yeah, and maybe investigating that my belief system might not be exactly what it is, but I have to attack you that's throughout human history, yeah? Essentially, right.

Billy Carson 1:19:59
It's human nature.

Alex Ferrari 1:19:59
It's a, it's a human nature, yeah, a human nature thing where I try to, at least on this show, I'm very open minded, and I try to listen to everybody. I don't agree with everything. I'm sure you don't.

Billy Carson 1:20:09
I don't agree with everything. I'm not gonna go and attack anybody

Alex Ferrari 1:20:13
If someone had, I had someone the other day that came on the show, um, who's sitting in your chair, yeah? And was saying, uh, things that I'm like, okay, okay, yeah, you're not hurting anybody, right? And that's fine. I'm completely cool with it. And I'd say my piece. He said he's been like, cool, yeah, that's okay.

Billy Carson 1:20:32
It's okay. We're not supposed to be the same. It's okay to agree to disagree.

Alex Ferrari 1:20:36
That is perfectly fine. And I think if we all did that a little bit more. Yeah, the horn will be a little bit better. Because look, at the end of the day, you know, I like Star Wars. You might like Star Trek, right, right, you know. And there's been some battles. If you've been to a Comic Con, you've seen the Jedi, yeah, obviously the Jedis will win. But anyway, there's a whole other see that's gonna get the worst comments. All right, back to the Emerald Tablets. So how old is the Emerald Tablets?

Billy Carson 1:21:08
36-38,000 years old.

Alex Ferrari 1:21:11
And the information that you've read, all these translations come from whatever tablets have survived. Where does that information come from?

Billy Carson 1:21:19
They come from people who have actually had access to the tablets. Okay? So, secondhand, secondhand, secondhand, yeah, verbal, yeah, sir. Isaac Newton, Roger, Roger Bacon, Duval. I mean, there's so many. The Queen of Sheba. I mean, their list is all, I listed all these,

Alex Ferrari 1:21:35
So there's a lot. So there's a lot of people who have had access to them. St, Thomas Aquinas, really, yeah, okay, yeah. So that's where all that information comes, right?

Billy Carson 1:21:44
So when I can see that many people having access to these serious people, yeah? But these are big names.

Alex Ferrari 1:21:49
These are the good brands, yeah, good marketing, right?

Billy Carson 1:21:53
And then coming up with their own interpretation of the tablets over different time periods. So now I have to say, wait a minute, this isn't just a one off this thing. They existed. And then, of course, having the link to the one, the singular tablet located in Cambridge. Okay, well, now I am and there's more of this, another, another writing by Thoth, which is being dug for right now. Archeologists are searching like crazy every single day in Egypt, trying to find this other book of Thoth that exists. They're digging holes everywhere, looking for this thing, for the like the last, though, since 2014 when I was there, one the first, the very first time, they've been digging since then, and haven't stopped yet, looking for this, what, and how do they know it's there? It's talked about another ancient Egyptian text that it exists. And so they're trying to find it

Alex Ferrari 1:22:38
Before somebody else. Yeah, right. And who was those

Billy Carson 1:22:43
He called himself a son of Atlantis. He says he's an Atlantean priest King. According to the ancient Egyptians, he ruled over the land of ancient Kemet for 16,000 years. One man. What's interesting that's around the time period right after the Sumerian Kings List handed down kingship to people in that region. But in Egypt, other kings, other naturo, were ruling over that land. And the lifespans in the Sumerian Kings List are super long, 16,000 years. 26,036 that's the ruling years. That's not the lifespan. So you see this guy all of a sudden, he's ruling for 16,000 years, right around that same time frame. It matches up with the Sumerian Kings List. They really had these lifespans. In ancient Sumerian he was known as negajita, right? And in Egypt, he was known as Thoth, but also known as tehuti and DJI throughout that region as well, throughout Africa,

Alex Ferrari 1:23:39
You said the king's list. Can we dive that into a little bit? What exactly is the king's list?

Billy Carson 1:23:45
It's a tablet that's got cuneiform on four sides, all four sides. Okay, I've saw it in person. I've gone to visit it myself, and in the OSH Moline Museum at Oxford, England. And this has a list of kings that rules anti diluvial time period. So we're talking about before the flood, okay, so before the great flood. We're talking about kings that ruled. Alagar ruled for, I don't know if it was 36,000 years, and all these alulim rule for 20, you know, 20, uh, 28,800 years. And all these time frames are just crazy time frames. And it tells you where, when their ruling ended, where the kingship was moved. What part of the what part of Mesopotamia kingship was moved to as they ended their reigns. It moved all around the region, staying within the same Mesopotamian area, Mesopotamian area, and then the Great Flood came. And when the Great Flood came, that's when the Kings after the flood, the lifespans were, or the ruling years were going down, down 1800 600 500 400 I mean, just going down the tubes.

Alex Ferrari 1:24:48
So I mean, I mean, because that's when you hear the story of Moses. He lived at 800 years our lifespan. I always wondered that about us. I don't know if you saw the new Deadpool Wolverine.

Billy Carson 1:25:00
Yeah, fantastic,

Alex Ferrari 1:25:01
Fantastic. But I look at Wolverine and both Deadpool, but they can regenerate themselves, yeah, but we can regenerate ourselves. We're slower than them, obviously, yeah, but we heal, yeah. We have a new a new I forgot what the time period is like. Within a few seven years we have a completely new body. Yes, correct? Seven years? Yeah, seven is right. Seven years we have everything's being regenerated, like a heart every X amount of time our skin gets replenished. Yeah? So all the, all the old cells are dying and being regenerated, yeah? But we're aging, and we're getting older, and then we're deteriorating. Yeah, I always wonder, I'm like, what's inside of us that's causing that to happen? Because in technically, we shouldn't really be dying right off like that.

Billy Carson 1:25:50
If one cell is good and it gets copied in the second cell, why isn't it good? Just as good as a cell it got copied

Alex Ferrari 1:25:56
Right and regenerated. I mean, we are regenerated.

Billy Carson 1:25:59
Yeah. So if you remember. Now we gonna go back in time a little bit. We're gonna remember the past 6000 years. Remember the fax machine? Yes, okay, okay. If I took something and faxed it to you, you don't get the same level of quality that came out on your page. Then my quality did that put in Sure, of course. Now if you take the fax I sent you and then fax it back to me. Oh, God, forget it. And then I get that and fax it back to you.

Alex Ferrari 1:26:24
You Xerox it, then you fax it back to me

Billy Carson 1:26:27
Back and forth, back and forth. What's going to happen by the 20th or 30th copy,

Alex Ferrari 1:26:32
It's going to be, it's going to be deteriorated, won't even be able to read. So is that what's happening to us? What's happening to us? But there is, isn't there? Isn't there an internal the telomeres, yeah, something that's stopping us from?

Billy Carson 1:26:44
So what's happened is we have a situation where geneticists discovered an artificial mutation in the Homo Sapien. When I say artificial, that means it's not part of natural evolution, and so they're saying something, did something. Did this someone or somehow, this happened artificially. Around 200,000 years ago. Is that time that I told you, in the epic of atrocities, when they came to the Egi came to go to battle against the God unionized, right? They unionized, right? And so I like that. I really like it a lot. And so that's when they decided to genetically modified human beings. Now, how old is this artificial, artificial mutation? According to geneticist, about 200,000 years old. So about 200,000 years ago, someone took out chromosome number two, fused it together and put a telomere cap on each end. Now a telomere cap, it holds biological material for duplicating replicating cells and and DNA and RNA and all of that and so. But the thing is, as your as your body keeps regenerating, these caps get smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller. It's a time it's a time clock, yes, and when they're done, your body is already down, starting to death.

Alex Ferrari 1:27:56
So if those those telomere caps were not there, yeah, we arguably could live almost indefinitely, almost indefinitely.

Billy Carson 1:28:02
The only thing that would stop us from living would be environment, an accident.

Alex Ferrari 1:28:05
Yeah, by accident, yeah, exactly, something that just knocks us out pretty right? But generally speaking, we're not vampires, right or and we're not superheroes that we can we're bulletproof. But technically, if life moved on and we just, you know, didn't hurt, kill ourselves or get hit by car, right? We arguably can continue to

Billy Carson 1:28:22
Live 1000s of years easily. And so they took mice in Harvard University, and some scientists actually were able to stop the degradation of their telomeres, and they got the mice to live three times their normal lifespan. So they've been experimenting with this, you know, longevity technology, and they now know that they can stop telomeres from shrinking in human beings, too, and that's why I always say we have to take back control of our planet, because if we don't take control of the matrix that they put us in, they're going to start selling us time. Okay? You'll be have. You'll live as long as the class that you're in. Are you in this class here? The lower class? Oh, you we'll give you 50 years. All right, if you want to get if you make it into this political class, I would give you all about 300 years. You make it to the elite oligarch class, you can maybe two, 3000 maybe four centuries, maybe four, four eons. Four eons, 4000 years.

Alex Ferrari 1:29:15
Can you imagine what our Roth IRA would be? Oh, man. I mean, that's gonna be a heck of a Roth IRA when I retire at 6500 years.

Billy Carson 1:29:28
But these are the plans that they've got That's fascinating. So we have to understand, like, you know, we really it's a crucial time for mankind right now to understand where we are, what are places in the world, and the power that we have in unity, not by division, but in unity, to be able to take back control of these technologies and these advancements in life, life longevity, and everything at life extension, because we don't want to be put in a position where it's held over our heads like a carrot.

Alex Ferrari 1:29:55
Well, it's already been held out the pharmaceutical companies are holding it over our heads. Yes. Yes. I mean, it's insane. Yeah, what they what they charge for something that cost them.

Billy Carson 1:30:04
Oh, yeah, nice trying to, they're trying to minimize the life extension, but kill us at the same time for the next customer to come. And they're what they're, what their plans are so outrageous, I'm going to do this whole thing on on the pharmaceutical pharmaceutical industry in a few days, because what they've done and what they're doing, and how dark it is, it's just, it's scary.

Alex Ferrari 1:30:24
Well I mean, you could, I mean, you could just see it. I mean, it's insane. But, uh, going back to the kings list. So that is okay. So how far back does it go? How many 1000s of years did it go? 240,000 years of these ruling of this ruling kings. Yeah. So again, once again, who wrote this. Is this just a story? Yeah. Is it someone just and somebody welcome.

Billy Carson 1:30:44
But, you know, let me get some wet clay and a stylist and wedge this clay for about stylist, 49 hours.

Alex Ferrari 1:30:50
But let me ask you this, though, is there any way that they could have misunderstood the numbering, like they could have translated 34,000 years? Good question, and it just maybe we're just not getting

Billy Carson 1:31:00
Good question. There are numerous scholars, including Irving Finkel, who runs the British Museum, who's in charge of all the Sumerian tablets that have come up with the fact that these these numbers are right, and they're ruling in the years of shars, one, shars 3600 years according to the ancient Sumerians, there are two guys who come with their own theory, more recently, that these are not actual shards. Shars, just a regular year. You said it's just a regular year, two guys who really don't have a lot of credibility, and some people running away with that online, on social media, on YouTube and everything else. And they're trying to convince people, oh no, shars, I think these people never lived that long. These two guys right here. They're saying, This is what it is. So we're going to go with that. But when I go with dozens of of scholars and translators and linguists that have been working in the field, and you know, for a very long time, most of them, even before Zacharias Hitchen was even born, I mean talking, we're going back to George Church and the syriologist. We're saying now, wait a minute, we're not going to discount these masters of language and translation, because these two new guys said, Oh no, we think it's we think it's regular day, a regular year. So I'm going with the I'm going with the biggest cache of knowledge. And my side is saying 3600 years. And so that's the side I'm going with.

Alex Ferrari 1:32:22
And also, I mean, what's the agenda? Yeah, so is this, is just, is this the status quo, that these are shards, and this, all this academic, academia is on board with that, because it actually goes against the narrative. It does go against it. It goes very much against the narrative academia.

Billy Carson 1:32:40
Let's see how to get away with it. They say this is just mythology.

Alex Ferrari 1:32:43
Why wouldn't? Why, Billy, you have to. Why would someone just sit down for 50 hours, 500 hours, however long it took them to the damn thing? Yeah, and lie. Yeah. I get the story of the of them, the Centaur. And all of those, I get the stories. This is just accounting.

Billy Carson 1:33:08
Or it's really raw, it's really it's not a story. It's not a story, it's accounting. Yes, that's all it is. It's like reading is, if you ever gone to Genesis in the Bible and read the generations of ISIS, which is really the bloodline of Adam. If you sat there and read it, it's like, you know, Sabbath, you know, Jabba three, get this and begin and beget and be getting be it's just like raw reading, very dry reading, right? It's not a story.

Alex Ferrari 1:33:33
So since you brought Adam up, um, this is the thing I always found out. And I'm sure you've heard this question, I'm going to ask it because a lot of people ask it if we were Adam and Eve, we were all be Mongoloids at this point, because it would be incest. Would be insane. Yeah, we wouldn't have 8 billion people on earth. No, we wouldn't. So that story, for me, is much more mythology, yeah, and, you know, just kind of a story than could actually be real, yeah? As opposed to a lot of people who actually believe what they also believe 6000 years, right? So there's, so there's that that's the same group, but that doesn't make any sense. So is there, is there an, I do have any idea of when? These are very simple questions, when did man start, Billy, can you give me a date time? Do you have photos that would be fantastic video.

Billy Carson 1:34:21
When you go to the book of Genesis, you discover that there's this creation that happens before Adam and Eve

Alex Ferrari 1:34:27
Right the seven days and six days and right.

Billy Carson 1:34:30
And in this it eludes to the fact that there are animals and everything, and even potentially people. Now go all the way into the Sumerian tablets, and you discover that, of course, there were people, because these beings created, not they didn't create it from scratch, but they genetically modified or tinkered with an existing hominid. Now this hominid, once they tinkered with it, they couldn't get it to replicate fast enough, so they started cloning them. Yeah, and the cloning, the cloning instructions, and the cloning. Hieroglyphs are located at the Karnak temple in Egypt. And I take people there to see them every year, and their minds, or their brains are blown away. It shows you, step by step, how to clone a person. And these people were being cloned in the Hathor temples, which is one located temple of Dendera. There's another located, another Hathor temple located. There's so many of them. There's a few of them around. There's one at Temple of near the Temple of Isis, and on that little island that we go to. And so these, they were doing these, creating these clones. The Clones couldn't have babies, because if you take a lion, a lion and a tiger, you get a Ligon. A Ligon is massive and looks brilliant, like a great me, a liger, a liger, right? Liger, Ligon, tigon, whatever?

Alex Ferrari 1:35:45
Napoleon dynamites favorite. Yeah, yes, but it can't mate. They can't have babies. That's interesting. Yeah. I was always wondering, like, why are there more ligers out there? Yeah, there isn't. So they can't make so what? Can't they mate?

Billy Carson 1:35:56
Because, well, they can, but they can't have offspring. Why? Because it's genetically and can't incompatible, so they become their mute they can't, they don't have any

Alex Ferrari 1:36:04
But you can do that with dogs. When you cross breed dogs and those dogs can't,

Billy Carson 1:36:08
Yeah, dogs and dogs work, but horses and donkeys crate mules. Mules can't reproduce, and lions and tigers. So you can have a Ligon. You can have a like a liger. You can have it to both, either opposite, depending on which one was the male, sure, sure. But yeah, they can't. So they had the same problem with human beings. And so then ISIS was getting a little upset about this, and she says, I'm going to create it. And so she takes an egg out of one of the hominids, she adds her genetic material, or some genetic material to it. Now it's not sure who or how, what, they added some essence to it, put it in her womb, and she carried it to term for 10 months. And then there's this famous cylinder scroll where she's holding up the baby and says, My hands have made it the Adamu, which means first man, and that was the first perfect, perfected version of Homo Sapien. Sapien was the Adamu. And then they put the Adamu in the Garden of Eden, Edi n, which was ruled over by Satan, Satan, the Lord of Eden, which was also known as Yahweh in the modern day Bible. And in this Eden, when you read the book of Adam, one of the apocryphal texts that was left out of the Bible, you discover that they're in like this laboratory. They're like this outdoor laboratory where they have these mating times and, and you've got to mate at certain times of day, and, and if you you can't mate out of turn, you can get punished for having sex with the wrong woman. And all the they were trying to mate Adam with all these other cloned women, or not, the Perfected versions, and it wasn't working out. So they then genetically created a version of a female version, just like they created him and gave and then they made it Adam with her called Eve. And that worked. They're like, we got it. So they made more atoms and more eaves so they can have a diverse genetic pool. They loaded them up in the garden, and then they had different mating times, because they have to have genetic diversity, like you said. Now, said, otherwise we'd be Mongoloids if we all just keep mating with each other, our sisters and cousins and brothers, and it wouldn't work. We wouldn't. There wouldn't be a billion people. So they created a genetic pool, and then they cross made it at certain times. And you had these certain, certain time slots where you had to make like you were animals, like mating, like creating, horses, sure, sure, sure. And so or dogs studying, yeah, studying Exactly. And then once they got there, perfected, they started realizing how to mass produce. If you remember in the Bible, Cain kills Abel, his brother, and then God kicks him out. And he said, the people out there will kill me. Well, what people?

Alex Ferrari 1:38:37
There's only three of us.

Billy Carson 1:38:40
There were a lot of people out there already, so,

Alex Ferrari 1:38:42
So to my understanding, there were multiple homo erect like, you know, Neanderthals and all this stuff. And we were not, by any stretch, the leader of the pack. No, we were smaller, not nearly as strong as Neanderthals. Neanderthals are fairly bright too. Oh, you might understand they were not a brutes. They were so they, there were many other Homo sapiens

Billy Carson 1:39:09
Homo sapiens, erectus hominids,

Alex Ferrari 1:39:12
Yeah these kind of there were multiple fighting, not fighting each other, but like, yeah, evolving, yeah, um, separately around the world to see who would eventually dominance, because who's gonna become number one? And we became number one, like, overnight, yeah? Like overnight, and the rest of them just disappeared, gone, yeah? Because there shouldn't be, why isn't there a Neanderthal right, walking around.

Billy Carson 1:39:35
We had a little bit of help

Alex Ferrari 1:39:37
There was something that was amazing, and something I heard the other day that was always fascinating. I'm like, you know, we're not really built for this planet now as a general set. And I'm not saying that we're alien, but our as if you look in the animal kingdom, we, yeah, are not designed to really be on the planet. No, we have no hair protecting us from the sun. Yeah. Um. We, we can't run real fast. No, we're not particularly strong, nope, at all. The only thing we got going for us is our brains.

Billy Carson 1:40:10
That's it. We can't even see that will we're not good, so

Alex Ferrari 1:40:13
We can't see, we can't smell, we can't hear. We don't have all these other things that the animals in the animal kingdom has. We are a mammal, like many other mammals and in this world, but we, we don't seem to be really built that like Neanderthals apparently, were extremely hairy, yeah? So that protects the fur, protects them from the sun. I mean, you, you and I go out and just in the desert somewhere. We're done, yeah, yeah. Give us a little bit. We're done. If we had definitely, if we were naked, it's over. Oh, it's over. Forget about but if we even had our technology on us, we wouldn't be able to survive very long. Yeah. What do you think of that? Yeah.

Billy Carson 1:40:48
Well, you know one thing about the circadian rhythm of the human being, they discovered that it's more attuned to the circadian rhythm of Mars, not earth. Stop it. So you're right on point. With that statement, you're right on point. This is from mainstream science. They're saying something is peculiar. We don't understand why human beings circadian rhythm is more tuned to Mars's rotation on its axis than Earth's rotation on its axis. Almost as if we came from Mars. Isn't that interesting?

Alex Ferrari 1:41:17
Alright, so since you brought Mars up, Billy, yeah, what? What the heck happened? What's more like, what happened? I'm sure there's some text, some ancient thing you read somewhere along the line that said there was this planet. Yeah, it wasn't read. I'm assuming it had, it has an atmosphere, from my understanding.

Billy Carson 1:41:34
Oh it has oxygen and everything there. But it's very, very, very Yeah, we can't. We can't, yeah, we wouldn't be able to just

Alex Ferrari 1:41:41
Yeah, we're not there. We need a TerraForm that, damn. But there's, there's remnants of an atmosphere. There's remnants of being, of life, even water. They still have running water on Mars. Yeah, there's, they're saying that there's water underneath. No, they found a lake. They found a water.

Billy Carson 1:41:59
They've found a 12 hectare lake just about maybe two years ago, they did a press release on mainstream news where they showed water running down the side of like a mountain on Mars. They said that the soil on Mars is better for growing crops than the soil on earth now, well, that makes sense, yeah. So they are really allowing, you know, prepping us that they're going to be moving to Mars. Some breakaway civilization will be created on Mars. We're the new Annunaki.

Alex Ferrari 1:42:25
So what happened to it? Because it must have been thriving at one point.

Billy Carson 1:42:28
A couple of things happened to Mars. Mars has been has a crazy story. The first thing is, Mars was not a planet. Mars only recently became a planet. It was a habitable moon that orbited a planet which is now the asteroid belt. So the asteroid belt, if you put those pieces back together, that actually was a planet named Tiamat in the ancient tablets in some ancient Texas, also known as known as Krypton, stop it. Okay, yeah. Now, stop it. Yes, yes, yes. Krypton real, the planet that was destroyed. What do you think they got the story for Superman?

Alex Ferrari 1:43:02
Man stop it. You'll make me cry.

Billy Carson 1:43:07
These guys always go to the ancient texts to get the knowledge and turn them into movies.

Alex Ferrari 1:43:11
I mean, if you look at Marvel, it's all a lot of it, oh, a lot of ancient stuff going on.

Billy Carson 1:43:15
All ancient texts, right? Even that one new one that came out, one of the newest ones a couple years ago. I forget the name of that movie, but they went right into the Sumerian tablets and so anyway, so Krypton, aka Tiamat, in the Enuma Elish, in the seven tablets of creation, you discover that and the coalescing of our solar system. In that process, there was either a moon of another planet that crashed into Tiamat and broke it into pieces, or as a state, it was a war that was going on in this sector of our of our solar system. And it's not clear whether it's just metaphorical war or if it really is just this collision of moons and planets, but either way, it was destroyed. Now, when it blew up, huge chunks of it hit Mars. One side of Mars is charred. The other side is to smooth the surface in the solar system, because it had a global flood when that happened, and that ejected a lot of atmosphere, it created a 45 degree tilt on Mars's axis because of the weight hitting one side pulled it down towards Tiamat. That's why it's got a pole shift of the crust of the earth evident. And it's slung it into this very strange elliptical orbit around the sun, this very weird elliptical orbit where you when it's in perigee or apogee, depending on which one it's in, when you want to rendezvous with the planet, you have to wait for a two year window to rendezvous with Mars. Otherwise it could be an eight month trip. But if you wait till it's like in perigee, I believe it is, it's only like three months if you have, if you have, if you can continue to burn like a nuclear rocket or whatever, like they when they send the probes or the other or the rovers. So it's just this huge, weird, elliptical orbit around the sun, and it's known as the god of war. So that was one incident that happened. Now it seemed that as Mars started to heal again, and these Egi were working on Mars, according to the ancient Sumerians. According to me, but when they decided to have this one war, it was thwarted, because they made this agreement for workers. But then there was another guy who came and came in the picture, Marduk. Marduk is in the Jewish American Library. He's in the Torah. He's in the Bible and the Egyptian text. He's on his almond raw. He decides to have two of several. I think he had more than two, but he had several wars. One of the one of these wars spanned from Earth to the Moon and even all the way to Mars. And something interesting about Mars, when you analyze the data from the REMS unit for the atmosphere, and also the data from the soil, from the chemistry sets, it has an abundant amount of xenon, weapons grade xenon. Weapons Grade Xenon is a byproduct of only nuclear warfare. So in some time in Mars's past, after it began to heal itself from the one geological disaster, there was a war that involved nukes on Mars, and it's evident right now, today, in actual atmosphere and in the soil. And I think as a ray Brandenburg wrote a book about this as well. And so when you when they say it was the god of war, there's a reason for that. In ancient texts, in the Greeks and so forth, they knew about this ancient war in the heavens, in the ringvader, they call it the Battle of the 10 kings, and it took place in space. It's crazy. Well,

Alex Ferrari 1:46:22
I mean, that's the Bhagavata. Talks a lot about that, yeah. And there's even talk about from the Bhagavad Gita, they found places in India that had radiation, oh, yeah, in the soil, yeah, that's never been touched by any nuclear explosion or anything like that. The same kind of radiation you see in Nagasaki.

Billy Carson 1:46:42
Nagasaki you see it also Mohan jindaro in the Indus Valley near Pakistan. The buildings there turned into glass, and the dead bodies are still laying in the street right now today, holding hands. No scavenging ever happened. And when you take your Geiger counter, higher than background level radiation, evidence of a blast of 3000 plus degree temperature.

Alex Ferrari 1:47:03
Now, Billy, one thing I heard you talk about, another show is called the, please forgive me, the anti crocka codes?

Billy Carson 1:47:11
The Adinkra codes.

Alex Ferrari 1:47:13
Thank you, the Adinkra codes. Yeah, I heard that. I was like, What the hell are the Antiqua codes? Can you please explain that?

Billy Carson 1:47:18
Sure in the Dogon tribe, which is located in Mali, Africa, they have these symbols and pattern that they that they stitch and paint and everything else. And these patterns are mostly a lot on their clothes. These patterns are of rugs. When you take these patterns and you turn them into three dimensional objects, there's mathematical codes hidden in them. Professor Sylvester James Gates, Jr at the University of Maryland, he discovered codes called the Adinkra codes, hidden in these symbols, and he then created these this team of mathematicians to go and analyze what these codes meant, and discovered that these were the codes that are called error correcting codes, but the same ones that are running The ether of space time itself that our universe is running on these exact codes, and they're called Adinkra codes, the same codes that run search engines and web browsers are running this.

Alex Ferrari 1:48:14
When you say this, sir, what do you mean the universe? Okay, fair enough.

Billy Carson 1:48:17
The universe is running on these codes, and it's a mind blowing concept to understand, but the fact that it proves again, that we are living in a creation, just like all the religious texts say, just like all the ancient sages say, we're living in creation. What is the method of creation? This is a fractal, holographic, programmed light matrix that we're living in, and we can't fully detect it because we're fully immersed in it, but we can use utilize tools to detect it, now called mathematics, and also called quantum physics and quantum theory,

Alex Ferrari 1:48:52
And this is where you're talking about simulation theory. Yeah, that we're all in basically the matrix.

Billy Carson 1:48:56
Yes, we're in the matrix, a real matrix, the real matrix. Yeah, yeah, um,

Alex Ferrari 1:49:00
Which has been talked about for 1000s and 1000s and years. This has been since in the Vedic texts Maya and the illusion all that kind of stuff. All right, so now that we've, and if anybody wants to go deeper down the rabbit hole on simulation theory, we've had multiple conversations about that, oh, yeah, but this we haven't spoken about, and since we both have seen dead Deadpool and Wolverine, yeah, the multiverse, yeah, and parallel worlds. Can you go down the rabbit hole a bit some multiverse? Because it's something that is really in the mainstream. Now, people are understand and thanks. Marvel's done it. Man, they've exposed it. They've exposed this multiverse concept, which, by the way, Henry Cavill as Wolverine, fantastic. But these multiple versions of, you know, using that movie as an example, multiple versions they were hunting for a Wolverine from another parallel universe. Yeah, that could come and save our universe with Deadpool, you know? Yeah. And we're using cartoon characters and and superheroes as analogies, but they're fantastic analogies, yeah, to clarify these fairly large ideas, so can we dive in a little

Billy Carson 1:50:16
Sure, Well, you know the what's interesting is the fourth the forefathers of America, Benjamin Franklin, all those guys, they all believed in the plurality of worlds that were living in a multiverse. They actually weren't even into religion. They were into aliens and multiverse, believe it or not, really. Yeah. Where's that from? That's and so in some of the old texts and records you can even get from the Library of Congress, you discovered that these guys were like they had formed their own little society, their own little secret society. Yes, they did. Yeah, well, you had to be a different type of progressive thinker. Even these guys all did this between the ages of 20 and 30, right?

Alex Ferrari 1:50:55
There's some 21 year olds declaration of independence the kids, right?

Billy Carson 1:51:01
Future thinkers, right, right? So they weren't wrapped up in the dogma. But nonetheless, anyway, so this concept of understanding that we're living in a multiverse. In quantum physics, we understand that wave particle duality exists in our third dimension, which is the fact that everything exists as waves of potential until a conscious observer collapses it into the illusion of solidity, that basically everything is a wave of light. And this table, for example, is nothing but light. Waves slow down to a particular frequency, correct, right? But now, when you take that to the more grand scale, that's the micro, take it to the macro, the universe as a whole is actually part of a multiverse, and each verse exists in superposition of the other verse. In other words, any potential outcome or anything that can happen is happening and will happen at any given time in any given universe. And there's multiple versions of us that exist throughout the multiverse that are all doing something different right now, or some may, some may be doing the same exact thing, right now?

Alex Ferrari 1:52:01
Yeah, so let me stop you there for a second. So it's, and I love all this. I understand the idea of what you're saying, that there is, there's, and there's another universe where you're in this seat and I'm in that seat, right? And I've run for it, forbidden knowledge, and you run, yes, next level, soul, fine. I get all that. But this, this, these infinite versions of us, are they living within these rules, meaning that this is the rules. This is so. You're Billy Carson, so, and I'm Alex Ferrari, yeah. And this unit in this lifetime, you and I have chosen these paths to walk, and the multiple, endless, infinite versions of us are working with in those parameters, meaning there's another Alex out there in this world with this background, and another Billy out there with your world and your background, as opposed to Billy who is in ancient Rome right now, yeah, in the Billy that's in Atlantis right now. Another another lifetime, not another version of you, another lifetime. Yeah, that we were there, that I'm just trying to I'm trying to connect reincarnation and lifetimes with parallel reality. So I'd love to hear

Billy Carson 1:53:09
Now you hit something on the head that I was just talking about somebody the other day, because, let's say that I'm in a another version of me exists in another universe, and it gets run over by a car. Now the reincarnation process takes over, and I energetically incarnate somewhere else throughout the known multiverse. So in that particular universe, the version of myself that would have been my exact age, my exact, you know, whatever doesn't really exist anymore. It's gone. And so you can have all of these kind of paradoxes that exist within this multiverse, where, in some cases, I could have been a stillbirth, right? I might never have been born. And technically,

Alex Ferrari 1:53:52
In that in that specific universe, right? Kind of like when Batman and there's a universe where Batman's parents were not killed, right, by somebody, and he never became Batman. So that you that universe there is no Batman. Hence, the Joker still came up, the penguin came up, right? And they're running amok because there's no Batman to stop

Billy Carson 1:54:08
Batman and stop them, right? I'm using Yes. So basically what you're saying exactly what I'm saying. So you described it perfectly. So there's all these different variations of myself that exist or don't exist anymore, or never came to fruition because of different circumstances, maybe even different laws of physics in different universes where the you know. So right now we understand these basic laws of physics and these laws of force and everything else that exists here in this third dimension. But what if another universe has a totally different law of physics, right? So all these different things come into play here. I'm a carbon based being. What if I'm a silicon based being in another universe? So all these different things come into play, but the thing that I believe is intrinsically connected with all of it is the energy, the energy I believe is connected on a quantum level, energetically, we're connected to every single other version of us. And there's something that scientists discovered by looking at the mind, looking at the synapses between neurons in the brain, they begin to discover that the thoughts, or the synapses, sometimes they just literally blink out of existence in the third dimension and then come back again, and they're hypothesizing that they're connecting into other dimensions and potentially even other realms. What if some of these blinking outs are some level of quantum entanglement happening between our thoughts and the thoughts of our other selves in other universes, there are some. There's something right now called a multiverse meditation, which I've actually done a workshop. Added it to one of my workshops, but I learned it from another group. From another guru, where you actually connect or contact, you search the multiverse with your mind, like remote viewing, looking for a version of you that's achieving and doing things that you would like to be able to do, or things that it knows, that you don't know as well, and to be able to go gather intelligence and information from that version of you and bring it back here. So that's quantum jumping. Quantum jumping, correct? Exactly what it is.

Alex Ferrari 1:56:05
It's quantum jumping, yes, yeah. Was his name, Bob, something or other. There was a guy who did that, yeah. He's forgot where I saw him from, but he normal dude, like a janitor, yeah, yeah. He discovered how to do this. And then he's like, learn how to play piano, yeah, started painting, became super rich, yeah? He Yeah. I just asked versions of myself what to do. So imagine in a world where, yeah, I want to be, I want to, I want to have a body like Wolverine, and there's a version of me who's like, yeah, this same body, Yeah, same everything. He's like, Oh, you just got to do this, yeah, or I want to be. It gives you a little insight of like, hey, I really want to, I want to be a rock star. Oh, just go to the place where you're a rock star. This is how I did it

Billy Carson 1:56:46
Exactly. That's crazy, yeah. I taught that in this, this workshop we had called God Power To with Dr B serious and myself. It was like a 10 hour workshop, but it was amazing. And people got great results out of this. Great results.

Alex Ferrari 1:57:00
Yeah, the quantum how? So how do you, how do you quantum jump, sir?

Billy Carson 1:57:05
We go through a particular frequency, 936, hertz. So I get him into that frequency, because that frequency allows the, what I believe is the the enhanced connection of energy, spiritual energy, between yourself and other versions of yourself. And we take them through this guided meditation, which is kind of extensive, but eventually you begin to envision yourself connected to all of these universes, and you see this entire huge soup of universes all connected. And you begin to find yourself, but you're searching for a particular energy, frequency of versioning yourself that's achieving something at a very high level. And then, until you find it, you find it, you don't stop, until you find when you finally come across that you then now are gathering intelligence. You're not directly engaging or interacting in a way from the meditational way that we teach it, but you're there to observe and gain information like it's almost like the remote viewing, like Project Stargate with the CIA major Ed dames, right? The Minister of goats, they made a movie about, yeah, right. You just go together, Intel, spiritually and consciously, because mine outside of space, outside of time, and you bring that knowledge back with you and you, and you act on it, and you can recreate what you what you witnessed.

Alex Ferrari 1:58:15
So have you done it? Oh, yeah. So what versions of you? Have you found?

Billy Carson 1:58:19
Well, I found versions of myself that were, you know, musicians, and I produce music now, and I've got music that have been on Billboard. I just thought, we just talked about that, right? I found versions of myself that were, that were a successful businessman in many different businesses, and I've now opened well over 100 different companies over time, and had some really successful companies, and some I've even sold for millions of dollars, you know, I found versions of myself that were overcame depression and overcame abuse, and because I had to go face I started going back to try to face different types of trauma and to be able to become a better version of myself now. And how did I deal with that? How did another version of me deal with situations that were similar? And I began to realize, well, I have to face these things head on. I have to you can't take the road of suppressing because it makes you sick, and if it makes you sick, it's going to give you illness and disease. And I found versions of myself that were dying from holding in this information interesting.

Alex Ferrari 1:59:14
So you so you're preaching. You're doing what you're preaching.

Billy Carson 1:59:18
Absolutely people say, you know Billy's a renaissance man. You know being you know, technically means, you know, this guy's doing everything at a pretty high level, yeah, like DaVinci, yeah, exactly. And, well, that's, it's true that I am doing a lot of things at a very high level, you know. I mean, there's the amount of things that I'm doing. People will like to do one of those things in one lifetime, if they could even come close to doing it at that level, right? But I'm doing multiple things at a high level, consistently all the time,

Alex Ferrari 1:59:45
Is that is quantum jumping. Can you the secret sauce of this?

Billy Carson 1:59:48
It's the secret sauce. I'm actually doing a movie about quantum jumping. That's how powerful it is.

Alex Ferrari 1:59:53
Yeah, is it something, and it's something that's coming into the zeitgeist now, because that was, that's a pretty out there.

Billy Carson 1:59:59
Yeah, it's out there. There. It's out there, way out there. But when you drop the, you know, the predisposed conditions and and the programming of the brain that tell you this is too weird or too out there, and you just let that go and just go with it, and just walk through the steps and become a part of it and let it, let it flow, let the energy flow. It's mind blowing what you can do. And then you'll come back and you'll realize, like, wow, I really mastered something that I probably would have never even learned without this meditation

Alex Ferrari 2:00:31
In the shifting back and forth. Is that one of the reasons why we're getting the Mandela Effect?

Billy Carson 2:00:36
Now that's something totally different. The Mandela Effect is when you know what they're saying. For people who don't know when they say, like, for example, I don't know there's a commercial or a car, the Berenstein Bears, okay? The Berenstein so. So what it is, is that now, I think at first I used to think that was just foolishness, but then I started realizing something about time travel that had me rethink the whole thing, because in time travel, you know, you have the grandfather paradox, where, how could you go back in time and kill your grandfather? Because if you did that, you would never be, have never have been born anyway, to be able to travel back in time, this grandfather paradox in science and quantum physics. And so I began to analyze that Terminator paradox. Yeah, right. Yeah, true. Wow, yeah. And I sort of analyzed, so wait a minute, so when you go back in time? Because every, every paper I read, every scientific paper I read, shows that you can go back in time, technically, and kill your grandfather, that means that you're shifting into an alternate reality.

Alex Ferrari 2:01:36
If Avengers end game taught us anything, yes, is the truth about it? Because that was, that was a funny scene in that movie, when they're like everything you learn from Back to the Future and terminate like that. That's not the way time travel works. And it explained it literally. If you go back in time, that becomes your future, that becomes your future. So you could go and kill your grandpa, it's not gonna affect you, because you're now in a new timeline that you created.

Billy Carson 2:01:58
Exactly, right? You're in a new reality tunnel. That timeline is going to go forward and you're going to be on that new trajectory. So when you go back in time, you shift timelines, but when you go forward in time, you stay on the same timeline. We know this for a fact because we've had time travel into the future in microns of a second by launching rockets and going to the moon or going into space, flying on airplanes, is a version of time travel. Anytime you speed away from an object that's standing still, you actually are time traveling in a very small amount, but we know that you can still be on the same exact timeline, but going back in time, seems that you can create alternate timelines. And so could it be possible that somebody came back in time from another universe, ended up in our timeline and made adjustments and shifts to, you know, to stories, commercials, content, whatever.

Alex Ferrari 2:02:51
Ed McMahon is my favorite. Yeah, you remember?

Billy Carson 2:02:53
Yeah! Ed McMahon, yeah.

Alex Ferrari 2:02:55
Did he ever show up to it? Did you see him go to with the publisher's Clearinghouse with a 10,000 million dollar check to people's houses. Do you remember those commercials?

Billy Carson 2:03:04
I don't remember. I remember the commercials, but I don't remember him showing up.

Alex Ferrari 2:03:07
See now this is two different two different versions, like I not only remember him, there's proof on YouTube of him, Oh, wow, guest starring on TV shows from the 80s. And what is he doing, showing up at somebody's front door or the big, giant, million dollar check. Oh, yeah, wow. So there, that's one of those things, like, is it, you know, if you build it, he will come on Field of Dreams. Or, as you build it, they will come, what is it

Billy Carson 2:03:33
He will Oh, if you build it, they will come. It's he, yeah, it's he, it's he.

Alex Ferrari 2:03:37
It the movie, its he. But we all remember they, they. So there's even, even when you remember one thing you don't like you. And I don't remember Ed McMahon the same way, but we do remember, feel the dreams. Oh, yeah,

Billy Carson 2:03:47
Absolutely. You know, I just told somebody that phrase the other day, if I build it, they will come

Alex Ferrari 2:03:52
Right! It's a thing. And how about like Luke, I am your father. Yeah, it's not, it's not, no, it's not Luke. It's I am your father. Wow, there is no Luke. There's no Luke, I am your father. Is there? No, I am your father. So if you go back and watch the movies, no, I am your father. That's crazy. I always thought, because anytime you ever hear someone say it's like, Luke, right, right? So those are we're just using this as examples. If anybody wants to watch go down the rabbit hole, just type in mandela effect. It could be examples, and you just your head explodes.

Billy Carson 2:04:22
It could be the effect of time travelers shifting into our reality and making changes and adjustments that have affected our point of view.

Alex Ferrari 2:04:31
Or could it be large groups of us changing, agreeing on a certain movement of where we all want to go as a consciousness, and that shifts that large, because there's a large These are large groups of people who remember McMahon right? Remember these lines. Big numbers give me millions, millions and millions around the world, and then others that don't remember it. So there's two different realities, but there's some residual, yeah, because normally when we all move in a direction, and would you agree with this as a consciousness, the. Humanity moves in a direction, yeah? And we are choosing not to, like, I'm I'm praying that this is true, that we're not going to blow ourselves up with regular weapons. Like, that's we've all made that decision in one way, shape or form, that it's not going to happen in this reality, right? But when we shift, we kind of left Luke, I'm your father, out of it. And there's large groups that move this way, but there's a small group that went this way, yeah, does that make sense?

Billy Carson 2:05:21
Oh, yeah, it makes sense. Yeah, absolutely. Makes a lot of sense. Yeah, it could be the mass shift in consciousness, right, you know, and that creates a magnetic attraction for the new reality to emerge, right? The new the new paradigm occurs, right? Yeah, yeah. It's so, so incredible. This universe is so incredible. There's so many possibilities and so many things. It just makes me so excited. Because some people feel like, Oh, my God, it's just too much. But I feel like, Give me more. You know, just to be endless, though it's endless.

Alex Ferrari 2:05:50
It's endless. And they're, they're saying that this is what I always thought. I love people who like, oh, they can't be in the alien life out there. I'm like, there's like, what? Have 70 trillion planets in our galaxy, just in the Milky Way, in the Milky Way. And then you look, and we've only been able to see what is it like? 3% of the known universe.

Billy Carson 2:06:12
Yeah. They looked at a pin prick in the sky from the Hubble, and they got it was a 70, 70 trillion galaxies. Or some it was a crazy,

Alex Ferrari 2:06:23
Yeah, galaxies. And within all those galaxies,

Billy Carson 2:06:26
Some crazy number, because it's just called the sky. It's called the Hubble sky book. Just look that up, and you'll find that the number is out. It's incredible.

Alex Ferrari 2:06:34
So there's so and it's so and we're so far out, yeah, and it's and it's expanding. It's growing infant, yeah, non stop. We never get, there's not an edge of the universe, like there's not an edge to the internet, no, like you and I will never finish the internet, right,

Billy Carson 2:06:48
Right We'll never finish and you'll never get to the edge of the universe. Either. You'll never get,

Alex Ferrari 2:06:52
It's not a thing, no? Because what's beyond the edge of the universe, right? Is the question, yeah, one question I have to ask you is this concept of souls that lifetimes, that all lifetimes are happening. Now, there is no past life, there's no future life, all lifetimes are happening. Now, can you explain that, from your point of view on how that is possible? If there's one oversold so there's one Billy up top and right now, you're in Atlantis, you're in Lemuria, you're in Egypt, you're a slave in Rome, right? You know, you're in the seven, you know, wherever there you're all these different time periods you've incarnated, and they're all living their life right now and also in the future.

Billy Carson 2:07:34
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So happy. So basically, from the third dimension, we've given ourselves the illusion of the arrow of time in order to make for our minds to make sense of what's really going on here. Because our mind is really just projecting a hologram of based on collected data from our sensory perception, and it's projecting that hologram where we navigate through this matrix based on a holographic projection from our mind. And so what's happening is we're trying to sort things out and think figure things out by adding that arrow of time so we can, I can meet you here at this particular time. It makes sense. But from a higher dimension, the past, present and future happen all at once simultaneously. So every iteration of me as Billy, in every incarnation, is existing. And even within that, every version of me, within that lifetime, of that incarnation, is all existing simultaneously. So if I was in the fourth dimension, or fifth dimension, or sixth dimension, looking down into the third I would see that. Now a good example is the movie Interstellar, right? He the ship breaks apart. He's inside of a tesseract. He's inside of a fourth dimensional hypercube, and he's looking at his house, and he's looking at his daughter in the house, and he's looking at his daughter in different rooms of the house, and in different rooms, he's different ages, right? And so that gives you an example from a higher dimension. You would be able to look down at yourself, look at your house, and you see yourself at different ages in different rooms, or different people in different rooms, different incarnations in different rooms, to make it make more sense for people how it works. And so because of that, we know that everything is happening simultaneously. It's only in the third dimension that it appears to be separated by this arrow of time, which is all an illusion,

Alex Ferrari 2:09:22
Beautifully said beautifully, and a great movie, that movie, yeah? Well, any Chris Nolan movie's gonna hit your head hurt.

Billy Carson 2:09:28
Yeah, I know, phenomenal.

Alex Ferrari 2:09:31
Now, Billy, I haven't asked you this, these questions, those questions asked at the end of every, every interview. I haven't asked these since our first Oh, wow. So I'm curious to see how you answer them now, as we're all older and wiser, more mature, if you like Well, good wine. Like good wine. So what is your definition of living a fulfilled life?

Billy Carson 2:09:51
Well, my definition of living a fulfilled life would be now is to be able to impact as many lives as I possibly can. My ultimate myth. Really is to how can I affect enough minds, or spark enough minds to create a significant change or shift in consciousness on this planet to help usher mankind back towards the next golden age?

Alex Ferrari 2:10:12
Is that? What is the future of humanity? What is What do you think where we're going man?

Billy Carson 2:10:16
I really, I'm optimistic. I believe that we will get to the Golden Age. I think we're in the Silver Age right now, with the amount of people that are waking up and asking questions again, if you're a person that's only watching the news and TV or scrolling social media feeds, you won't get that perspective. But if you're a person that's really tapping into the love frequency and tapping into the hearts and minds of people, you'll begin to see that there are a lot of people, in droves, waking up and becoming conscious, asking questions and trying to figure out how they themselves can get to the next level. And so I'm very optimistic that we will overcome, we've already seem to have overcome the nuclear age, even though we still have the bombs. I think those will go away eventually, but that we're going to overcome, overcome these forever wars as the next big leap, and we will see some things that will still make us feel like, oh, man, I thought we were over this, but, and they came back. But I think that we'll even get past that. There's going to be this process of mankind. Imagine mankind as a baby trying to learn how to walk every step. The baby might fall two or three steps right? The baby will crawl, pull itself back up again and take a few more steps and fall again. When the fall happens, we can't panic. It's part of the process. Eventually, the baby will learn how to walk and then even run. What's the definition of walking? Learning how to control your fall? That is the definition of walking. And I think mankind will will learn how to control its fall and will learn how to run at some time in the future, and we're all planting seeds for trees that will grow that we'll never sit in the shade of. But I believe that it's going to happen now.

Alex Ferrari 2:11:48
If you had a chance to go back in time and talk to Little Billy, what advice would you give him?

Billy Carson 2:11:52
I would tell Little Billy, smell the roses. A little bit more. Smell the Roses. You know, the grind is important. Getting out of this situation you're in is important, you know. You know this, this economic, oppressed matrix that you're in. But at the same time, enjoy a little bit more your life too. You know, I grind it so hard. I was like, I'm still grinding.

Alex Ferrari 2:12:14
I was about to say, you haven't slowed down, bro,

Billy Carson 2:12:16
I know. But you know, I find my ways to take my breaks now, you know, yeah, I find my very, very good spaces where I can enjoy something. If I'm gonna go on a trip somewhere for work, I find a way to have a little bit of enjoyment too. If I'm gonna go and research or take people on tour to Egypt, I have a vacation time built into that. Or I have my take my spots, pick my spots where, and I really now am able to enjoy things like sunsets and sunrises and fresh air and just seeing people smile and laugh. I mean, the small things people think are nothing, and really taking it in, you know, taking in every moment. And I do have a plan, an exec strategy for myself by 2026 which we talked about, not that I'm gonna stop working, but I'll be a lot more free to do it what I want, when I want. And that's all part of my my goal plan. But ultimately I would tell Little Billy like, hey man along the way, stop and celebrate a little bit more for yourself. Love you, love on yourself a little bit more, and smell these roses

Alex Ferrari 2:13:15
And invest in Apple.

Billy Carson 2:13:16
Yeah, yes. I had a chance to buy bitcoins when they were only $1

Alex Ferrari 2:13:22
I could have bought apple at seven bucks. Man, don't get me started. How do you define God or Source?

Billy Carson 2:13:29
I define God and source as the divine spark that created everything in the universe that is part of everything that exists, not only in human beings, but also inside of every atom in the known universe, which means that even this microphone is conscious, this glass in front of me is conscious. This table is conscious, understanding that this entire universe is imbued with divine energy from the Creator of all as the Anunnaki called them. And I believe that that and that that entity exists, and that the proof that we're living in a creation is in the science and the mathematics, the fractal mathematics. What is love? Love is just seeing yourself and everyone else. I think that love is truly seeing yourself and the ancient Mayans had a saying. Enlake alakin, I am another you, and understanding that we are one, that as I'm talking to you, I'm really talking to myself. If I hate on you, I'm hating on myself. If I attack you, I'm attacking myself, but if I love on you, I'm loving myself. And I think that if everyone can see it from that perspective, this world would change overnight.

Alex Ferrari 2:14:32
And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

Billy Carson 2:14:33
The ultimate personal purpose of life is to bring heaven to earth, to turn Earth into Heaven, to understand that we already are in heaven. We don't have to wait to die so we can live. This is our ability, our test to see, can we create heaven here, while we're alive in this third dimension

Alex Ferrari 2:14:51
And where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing in the world brother?

Billy Carson 2:14:56
Well, I'd love people to go get my 4bidden knowledge TV app with the number 4. 4bidded knowledge TV app on the App Store, and going here, we got over 3000 pieces of content there. And of course, 4biddenknowledge.com with the number 4, has all the information and everything we have going on, all of our tours, our world tours, our Egypt tours and Peru tours and Cambodia tours, and all the things that we're doing, events, conferences, award shows, just come hang out with us.

Alex Ferrari 2:14:56
And do you have any party messages for the audience?

Billy Carson 2:15:02
I would just say, stay true to yourself. You know there are going to be times where you going to begin to doubt yourself, doubt your abilities, and begin to lose belief in yourself, shake that off and gain back that belief in yourself and your abilities. Walk in your true power, and then you will see everything will become attracted to you, attract everything into your life that you need and abundance is your birthright.

Alex Ferrari 2:15:48
Brother, it has been such a pleasure and honor having you in person. I'm so glad we got the chance to chillax and have this deep conversation in person. Brother, I appreciate you and everything you're doing to awaken the planet man.

Billy Carson 2:15:48
Thank you man!

Alex Ferrari 2:15:50
Thank you so much.

Billy Carson 2:15:57
Appreciate it man.