Humanity’s Future Cycles of Evolution with Dr. Theresa Bullard

Dr. Theresa Bullard 0:00
But this is going to put people in a position of needing to reinvent themselves, having to reevaluate, what does it mean to be human? It's always evolving and accelerating to the next level of harmony. We're heading into a huge new cycles within cycles, within cycle. The more we come to understand about our own blueprint, right, our own DNA, the more we're going to discover about ourselves and our potential. This quantum physics is really revealing some things that sounds very much like mysticism.

Alex Ferrari 0:26
I like to welcome back to the show returning champion Dr. Theresa Bullard. How are you doing Dr. Theresa?

Dr. Theresa Bullard 0:44
I'm very good. Thank you, Alex. It's great to be back.

Alex Ferrari 0:46
Oh, thank you so much for coming back. I had such a ball with you last time. It's always lovely to speak to someone in the science realm that also dabbles in the Woo, as I like to call it, or dabbles in spirituality, and can kind of bridge the two, because I do believe that that's where this is going. Quantum physics kind of was the seed that was planted that is starting to slowly connect the two, from science and spirituality. Do you agree?

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:13
Yeah, and I think there is actually been an alchemy at work, because originally science and spirituality were integrated. They were, they were one thing, and it was only because, I think, really because scientists, the alchemists, wanted freedom to research and come to understand nature and the universe, that they felt like they had to separate the spirituality away because of the church doctrine, and they didn't want to be labeled as heretics and so forth, so they had to kind of separate away in order to pursue the science. And then only later down the line did science go in a more material kind of perspective. But now there's this re, re joining, coming back, and it's exciting.

Alex Ferrari 1:57
So it's interesting to you saying that it was because it's not spirituality it's religion early on, it was a combination of religion and science, not spirituality and science. There was mixture of spirituality in there, if you will. But like you're saying the church was all, all powerful. I mean, Galileo. We could talk about Galileo and the Galileo effect and that whole thing. So it was at a point that I guess the church allowed that kind of like, those kind of conversations, but as long as it's within the doctrine,

Dr. Theresa Bullard 2:26
As long as they're not saying anything about the nature of your soul, but, but like Isaac Newton, for example, he was an alchemist, and he had far more journals about alchemy than about just straight, you know, laws of motion. And he even warned the other scientists and alchemists, don't try to take this and make the universe into a great machine. Don't try to take God out of the equation. And yet, that's exactly, ultimately what the scientists ended up doing with it is, is extracting anything spiritual, anything to do with consciousness, anything to do with you know, what they just felt was the realm of of superstition or religion or anything. They just divorced from it and got to looking at the business of science and the material aspects of science, and they just said, Well, anything that has to do with the mind or spirituality is in the domain of the church and the psychologists versus the physicists.

Alex Ferrari 3:25
So well, when quantum physics was introduced was, please correct me wrong. Like 19 early 1900s late 18,

Dr. Theresa Bullard 3:32
Early 1900s early 1900s it took about 20 years for them to discover various things from 1900 to 1920 ish,

Alex Ferrari 3:38
And that's when they kind of really came out with it. What was the establishment like? I mean, because Einstein kind of talked about about quantum physics in his work, and what's his name, the one that with the with the box and the cat, thank you, he also was talking about that idea as well. So that must have been so revolutionary to the point where there hasn't been really a tremendous amount of advancements since the 1920s

Dr. Theresa Bullard 4:05
Well, no, yes and no, I think that that time was really, I would love to have been, you know, science at that time, because it was, there was this younger generation of scientists coming through, like Schrodinger and Bohr and Heisenberg And these guys, Baum. And Baum also spoke a lot. Dave Baum later, yeah, a little bit later. He was a next generation and but then he had Einstein, and, you know, the rock star, a little bit older generation rock stars, but who really were classical trained, classical and Einstein, even though he was a part of the founding of quantum physics, he never fully accepted it, because he said, God doesn't play dice with the universe. And, you know, he didn't like the uncertainty that was inherent and the sort of unpredictability that was inherent within the quantum physics. But then he had, you know, Niels Bohr and Heisenberg and these guys that were part of the Copenhagen i. Group, research group, and they were younger, and they were they dove in to, and there's so many philosophical conversations happening about the meaning of it, and what, what is this observer effect, and what is this entanglement thing? And it was a very exciting time. And then at some and they were very philosophical, like even Schrodinger, he had, he was studying the Vedas, right? And he said, You know, there's only one mind, and we're all, you know, we're all one mind, and so you can't really separate any one observer from any other, right, as long as there is an observer and and that, he drew that straight out of the Vedic teachings.

Alex Ferrari 5:36
Wasn't Oppenheimer a big fan of the Bhagavata. I mean,

Dr. Theresa Bullard 5:39
They were, they were all kind of exploring various things, because I think they're also trying to understand or realize that, oh, there's these, these, this quantum physics is really revealing some things. That sounds very much like mysticism,

Alex Ferrari 5:52
Which is what they've been talking about for 1000s of years. Yeah.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 5:55
So what, Maybe, you know, we need to revisit that. But then, I don't know, you know, about 20-30, years later, they just said, let's get back to the business of science and stop talking about these philosophical things. And then they just wanted to say, how can we apply this? Right? What technology can we build off of this? And and then that's where, you know, they started getting into lasers and MRIs and computer silicon technology, you know, all the these types of things, or cell phones ultimately work off of quantum like transistors and so forth. So they just kind of got back to the business of it, which was the technology. And let's, let's understand the the the mathematics of it and the derivations of it, and how to use that to predict things, but let's stop talking about the philosophical implications of it. So when I was going through graduate school, it was like, don't ask us about these philosophical things. Don't talk about the meaning of it. Just learn how to derive and yeah,

Alex Ferrari 6:53
So is this new generation coming up, changing things a bit, this new younger generation of physicists?

Dr. Theresa Bullard 6:59
Yeah, I think right now, in science, again, it's like, it's a very exciting time, like there's there seems to be more openness again, like the younger generations, and maybe even some of my generation, who who stuck with academia, they're more open minded, and they're willing to explore things and be more interdisciplinary. And the younger generations, because of the internet and all the things that they have opportunity to be exposed to, they're asking the questions, and they're not just backing off. And so I think they're really pushing for more exploration. And so even even consciousness is starting to be discussed again, even at academic levels and and within physics, and so I think it's a very exciting time again, and I feel, you know, I've seen in the last two years that there's so many new discoveries that are being made in various parts of the scientific field, and all of them are saying, If this turns out To be true, it will revolutionize this branch of science. And so, you know, we're on this precipice of multiple revolutions within the scientific paradigm right now as we speak. So it's a very exciting time.

Alex Ferrari 8:12
I mean, the work of Erwin Laszlo, he's wonderful. I mean, he's wonderful. I've had him on the show a few times. Talking to him is like talking to Yoda. I mean, it's like this beautiful his voice, you know, he's got the look, not that he looked like Yoda, but you know what I mean, this old, wise man, and what he's talked about with the quantum field and the Akashic field,

Dr. Theresa Bullard 8:34
So poetic and deep,

Alex Ferrari 8:36
He's been nominated for Nobel prizes. So, I mean, he's definitely being taken seriously talking about topics that would 20 years ago, 30 years ago, would have just, he would have been laughed out of the university, right? Is that true?

Dr. Theresa Bullard 8:49
Or he would not have I mean, I think it would depend on the, the strength of the individual to just be different and not not back down against, you know, the criticism and the attempts at discrediting.

Alex Ferrari 9:03
Why are scientists? I mean, I think it's everywhere. But why do you think scientists or physicists are so threatened by these new ideas, where, if you just look throughout history, humanity is building on what was before it and constantly growing. If not, we would not be here as we speak, right? You know? So we're constantly building so we don't have it all figured out, yeah, ever, but whatever the the ego of humanity is at that time, and I always joke is, like, where, no matter where you are, in history, the Egyptians said some the God the Son or god Ra, that's it, the sun god, that's it. Zeus, that's it. Like we got it all figured out. Yeah, dog message, it, it's this. It's like, we always have it figured out until some, you know, some revolutionary person or idea or profit comes through. When I say profit, not in the spiritual sense, I'm talking to Prophet in science, like, right? Like the gentleman that you were speaking about that pushed the envelope forward. Um. But it's just the same story again and again in all fields.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 10:03
Yeah, you know, in right before quantum physics emerged, I think it was Lord Byron who said that physics had come down to a precision science, that all it was was calculating a little bit further out that, you know, beyond the decimal points, the precision of various, you know, constants and so forth. And so he said that right before quantum physics emerged. And then quantum physics turned, you know, their their whole classical theory on its head. And so that was a big lesson, I think, to scientists that you know don't, don't become so rigid, rigid and mentally rigid and arrogant as to think that we have it all figured out. And I think today, the more that scientists are exploring, the more they're finding these anomalies that don't fit within even the standard models that you know, they know, okay, these standard models of physics and astrophysics and so forth are part of it, but it's not the whole story. And even Einstein said, you know, quantum physics is not the final story. Keep looking for that grand unified theory. And, you know, don't somehow he felt that there had to be some greater elegance and and and purpose, or in sense, there had to be some kind of sense to why the quantum physics and so forth, and not just a randomness, right? And today, I mean, when I was going through grad school, your credibility was everything. Yeah, right. And if you're gonna, if you're gonna get a 10 year position at a university, you have to be able to publish. And if you're going to publish, you have to have credibility. And, you know, and there's a rigor in science, which I think needs to be there, because they, you know, we can't just make claims and and not have it be testable.

Alex Ferrari 11:55
You mean, like the internet?

Dr. Theresa Bullard 11:57
Like a lot of people on the internet, yeah, and, and so, you know, there's, there's a rigor for a reason, but I think then sometimes that rigor can become a rigidity and, and that's where there's, you know, the close mindedness that came in and the scientific dogma that came in. But I think it's shifting right now, and it's opening up again, because there's so many anomalies, and there's there's new thinking, there's new generations of people who are thinking outside the box, and they're more interdisciplinary, like when I was going through grad school, it was still very compartmentalized, like I could, I could study in physics, but even trying to bridge over to material science, which or chemistry, which you think are next of kin. It was very like they spoke different languages.

Alex Ferrari 12:43
Well, it's kind of like, as an analogy, martial arts. Martial arts were very like, you were a karate guy, you were a kung fu guy, you were, you know, jiu jitsu guy. Like that was all you had. Like you should not, you should not learn how to box, right? You shouldn't learn. But now with MMA, it's, they've they've gone. Now it's standard that you have to be, you have to learn all of these disciplines and be, you know, flexible. You have to be, if not, you won't be able to compete right in what you're trying to do. So that dogma was in, you know, and we're talking about dogs of 1000s of years, like, if you were kung fu guy, you never talked about karate, yeah, you know, or judo, or anything like that. But now everyone's kind of mixing it in. So I hope there is a moment in humanity's future where it is just like, Oh, I'm a quantum physicist, but I also dabble in chemistry. I also dabble in material science, I also dabble in geology. I also, you know, I'm also, I have a little bit of engineering in the background, which kind of comes in, like, to kind of combine all of these to really come up with this, toe, a theory of everything,

Dr. Theresa Bullard 13:45
Yeah, yeah. And that interdisciplinary research is really where I think the more exciting fields are right now is kind of bridging between worlds. And you know, even, you know, some of the polymaths, and then they, you know, they also talk about being an expert generalist. I think Elon Musk even calls himself an expert General. Robert, you know, Robert Edward Graham, yeah. And they study lots of different topics, and then in that process, you might be deeply well versed in one area, but then having interest in many other areas, and, you know, being able to make connections between them that give insights and new creative leaps of of innovation that you wouldn't ordinarily come up with if you were only focused with, you know, blinders on in one area. So this is, this is the new science.

Alex Ferrari 13:45
What I find fast when you're saying that I was like, what, I think I'm kind of a spiritual polymath, because I have so many different fields of spirituality that we talk about on this show, and things that are not spirituality, that my theory of of everything, if you will, is a combination of so many different disciplines. Not that I'm polymath of any sort, but I just thought I was like, that's an interesting way of looking at spirituality, if you can combine not just one dogma. To be the one of my friends said Julie Ryan. She's a former Catholic, but she's like, No, I'm not former Catholic. I'm a cafeteria Catholic. I take what I like. I was like, that's what spirituality should be. A cafeteria spiritualist like you, just grab a little bit from Buddhism, a little bit from Taoism, a little bit from Christianity. And just mixing it all in to kind of create that theory that works for you.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 15:27
Yeah, you know. And my mind really worked that way better. So in physics, it was like you have to become you have to drill deep into being an expert in one field and really get into the minutia. But my temperament tended to be more Well, I have interests here. I have interest here, and then, you know, connecting dots between different things, but I didn't always have the temperament for the minutia. And so I think that that's part of also why I ultimately shifted and realized, well, I can be a bridge, because a lot of the physicists who drill into the minutia don't really know how to communicate to the general public what it is that they're even discovering and why anyone should care. And, you know, so, so it kind of takes the full spectrum of people who are working at different areas. And when it comes to spirituality, I also did that, you know, where it's like, Okay, a little bit of Taoism, a little bit of Buddhism, a little bit of Native American Kabbalah, you know, and kind of drawing from various philosophies, because I think they all have beautiful teachings, and they all have their virtues, and then they all have their vices, you know. They all have their dogmas as well. And you got to feel what fits for you. And at the same time, I would say, the deeper I explored into the ancient mystery traditions, the more I did realize that at some point you got to commit to something that's going to resonate with you and really like devote yourself to that path so you can go into the depths of one's self, a path, most paths, can lead you deeper and deeper into yourself and into the discovery, but it takes commitment to do that. So only skirting the surface, you're only ever going to get kind of the cream off the top, but you're not necessarily going to get the depth. So I think it's good to be open to all the different teachings, yet also have devotion to a path that resonates for you.

Alex Ferrari 17:22
And the other thing is too though that, and again, from my unique perspective of having so many interactions with you, know, over 550, episodes at this point of different of different walks of life and different modalities in spirituality, I am starting to see the commonalities, the connecting of the dots. Yeah, so these certain concepts or ideas, you know, like reincarnation, will give it an example. Reincarnation, to me, is absolutely without doubt, a fact in my personal world, because I've just heard it so many times from so many different, you know, modalities. I was like, Okay, this and it also just rings true. It makes sense to me, if this is the only time we got it's kind of weird, you know, like luck of the draw, like, Oh, you were born a man in this time period, or you were born a woman in this country, or things like that. So those are, those are, that's an example of a lot of things, but I start to notice that they're all saying similar things, but just in a different flavor a lot of times. But yeah, as you go deeper in, like, let's say the Cabal, and you go really deep down there, there's going to, you're going to get into a whole other world. The idea is to go deep down all of them, but that takes a lifetime.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 18:35
Yeah, and, you know, I think that there's multiple ways to interpret different things. You know, the concept of past lives. I mean, most people would interpret it as reincarnation, but there are other models out there that that can explain, you know, the concept of the experience of a past life without necessarily having to invoke reincarnation. And I think that they're, they're, they're equally valid to contemplate and to open one's mind up to, but they're also very deep, long conversations to get into. So that's

Alex Ferrari 19:11
For another time. One thing I wanted to talk to you about is quantum computing, because quantum computing is something that exists to a certain level. They haven't cracked it 100% to my understanding, if not, every code on the planet would be gone. Every every password would be broken, governments and all. But can you explain to people what quantum computing is and what how radical will it change humanity's life once it's really up and running?

Dr. Theresa Bullard 19:47
So right now, computing works on the silicon technology, and it's basically the binary code ones and zeros, right? And you have the string of the switch is either on. One, or it's off, it's a one, or it's a zero and and then that gets read in a linear sequence. Whereas in quantum computing, it works with entanglement and superposition. So you can have a quantum bit, a qubit, instead of being on or off, it can be both at the same time. And you know, so it's a superposition of the options versus one or the other, and and because of that, and then because of entanglement, where, if I have two entangled photons and and one is connected to one computer, and then I send the other photon to another computer, it becomes a quantum internet, where instead of now having to once, that information is sent once and it's stored in these two computers, now they're entangled together. And instead of always having to send information like through the internet, there's instantaneous communication between them. So to be faster, how does that work? Well, entanglement is one of those, you know, this is what Einstein called spooky action at a distance.

Alex Ferrari 21:03
So they're actually creating entanglement within hardware, yeah, and software,

Dr. Theresa Bullard 21:09
Yeah, that's within the hardware, within the hardware, within the hardware. So, so that, yeah, the photons get entangled. They get then one, one is kept within one, one sent to another, you know, through, I mean, there this is another piece of what's coming out right now is that they've been able to send, by tuning in a specific frequency, the photon to a specific frequency, and then having filters and whatnot, as they send it through fiber optics, they're able to actually send that photon without it getting too interfered with by other by other photons being sent through the same fiber optic. And it can actually go, sent, be sent to a distance. And they've been able to register entanglement between these computers. So basically, what it does is it's it's going to speed up everything, right? It can speed up the calculations. What might take a silicon based computer millions of years to solve a particular problem. Now it can be done within minutes by a quantum computer, and that's where the code breaking kind of comes in,

Alex Ferrari 22:09
Right? Then we're gonna have to create quantum codes, right in order, quantum encryption, quantum encryption, which will be at the whole other week. It's hard for unbreakable. Unbreakable completely. Yeah, so, and I'm going to explain entanglement as I know it. Okay, so entanglement, from what I understand, if there's a proton or an atom here, whatever, let's say a proton, it's here, and we shoot another proton out a million years away, let's say a million light years away. If this one turns left, that one turns left instantly.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 22:41
Yeah, you, you, they're like, one thing,

Alex Ferrari 22:44
Correct! So it basically like, if I'm moving my hand this way, if my hand was over there, let's say on the other side of the room I had another hand, it would move the exact same. There would be no delay, if you will,

Dr. Theresa Bullard 22:56
Right! There's instantaneous, instantaneous transfer of information.

Alex Ferrari 23:00
So, okay, so that's the concept. And I heard that concept that sounds pretty amazing, how they've been able to do that, but to be able to recreate that in a computer setting is asked, is revolutionary? Yes, it's it's insane. It's actually insane.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 23:15
Well, it's happening though. So typically it's been like, oh, they have to really cool things down to low, very low temperatures, or they have to have a vacuum chamber, versus not interacting with other particles, because it's a fragile state, and so forth. But they're finding ways, and the ways to do it is, is through coherence. I mean coherence comes in like,

Alex Ferrari 23:36
What do you mean by coherence? Can you explain that?

Dr. Theresa Bullard 23:37
Meaning it's tuned into a specific kind of frequency, and everything has to be aligned. And so coherence is like a laser. So it's all one frequency. It's all in phase with, you know, in terms of the wavelengths and so forth. They're all it's one Oh, 1.1 on the dial, and they're moving. They're moving in the same direction, rather than being, you know, scattered in different

Alex Ferrari 23:59
So it's like tuning into that specific frequency, which is like, 101, everything being aligned, yeah, yeah, exactly at that point, yep. And then if you want another piece of information, you change the frequency, and it's another one. But you can still keep it going.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 24:11
You can, you can run different like photons of light, for example, at different frequency levels, and they'll carry different information. So just like you turn the dial to a different radio station, you're going to hear different music.

Alex Ferrari 24:21
So if we so, let's say we have a network of 20 quantum computers, right? And I have a file of this, this interview right now, this interview. Once I transfer this interview to the other 20 computers, they are now there. There's no having to pull information from one, or pull the information like what right now, if you go to netflix, Netflix, you know, you watch squid games, and they have one file that's being pulled by hundreds of millions of places, and they also probably have that cloned in multiple different servers to be able to do that with Quantum. Computing, how would that change?

Dr. Theresa Bullard 25:01
So rather than the information having to travel at the speed of like an electron or the speed of light over a distance, here it's instantaneous with quantum computing. So it's so, so there's no delay.

Alex Ferrari 25:13
There's no so, there's no no lag, right? Now there's lag.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 25:17
Think about the old modems, right? And how long it took? Yeah, of course. And and think of how much it's sped up today compared to, you know, just 20 to, you know, 20 years ago, 25 years ago. So it was really slow, then it's really fast. Now, in 10 years, it's going to be even more instantaneous. But it's also not just the speed. It's about the band, the the capacity for computation. So you think of AI, and you think of all the data collection that's coming, and you think of, you know, just all of what they're having to process through, right? And so they're going to need quantum computing, because otherwise we don't have the capacity in current silicon technology to process all of that right that each CPU is limited in how much bandwidth or memory it has to process, whereas in quantum computing, it's like sky becomes a limit. So it's an exponential jump to more capacity, faster and more efficient.

Alex Ferrari 26:23
So if we have aI right now on silicon based computers, which is what we generally do, I'm not sure if there is an AI. I'm sure there's an AI somewhere in a quantum computer they're testing, I'm sure, oh yeah, I'm sure

Dr. Theresa Bullard 26:36
Open AI is already talking about the fact that they're they're playing around, they're working on it.

Alex Ferrari 26:41
So what dangers are giving AI that kind of power? Because right now, it's, it's hampered. There's there are guard rails, and there's a weight on top of AI shoulders limited, barely because of the because of the the technology that it's running on. But once you put that on, it's kind of like running around in a four foot square, and then all of a sudden getting a football field, like, it's a substantial amount difference, and you'll be able to move a lot fat, and then moving at this speed of thought, you know, it's essentially almost what goes on on the other side, like you can move you, I think I want to go to Paris. You're in Paris kind of thing. That's what AI is going to be able to do, right?

Dr. Theresa Bullard 27:21
So AI, ultimately, is programmed, and, you know, so we're creating this artificial intelligence in our own image, right? I mean, very God, like, yes, yes. And that's the problem is, because, you know, most people are not acting as God. They're acting as egos and and they have their biases and their opinions and their ideologies and so forth, and so unfortunately, the biases are getting, you know, inherently programmed, in which we saw over the last year, two years as as you know, some of these general kind of AI like chatgpt and so forth as they started coming out. And you put in different questions, you could see the political biases, for example, emerging and what was and wasn't okay. And you know how you could, like,

Alex Ferrari 28:13
You can ask, when you if you asked Alexa about a certain candidate, yeah, it would both of them had very different answers, right?

Dr. Theresa Bullard 28:21
So then, then it comes down to who's programming it, right, right? And so, yeah, I mean, but it's only going to be able to do what it's programmed to do.

Alex Ferrari 28:30
But, is it, but? But given that much power, eventually, do you think that it will become self aware? I mean,

Dr. Theresa Bullard 28:36
You can, it can become more what would appear, right? So there's a Turing test, and it's, it's as you're talking to, it. Can you tell if it is or isn't a real person? Still we, I think we can tell when we're talking to, oh, this is a video that was made by AI. This is a chat bot. This is definitely AI. This is not a real person on that you can still tell, yeah, but it might get more and more sophisticated, and we might not be able to tell whether it is or isn't a real person we're talking to. But, you know, is it going to be self aware to a degree from a logical place, but from a place of a soul? No, you know, it's not necessarily going to have the same capacity that that one who is imbued with with soul and spirit can have, I mean, it can. They're going to be creative, for sure, but it's like they're taking other people's creations and blending it algorithmically and then putting something out. So it's ultimately depending on the original creative capacity of humans. And so I don't think we have anything to fear other than humans biases being programmed in there, and we need to, like, make it more representative of a broader collective and let those sort of biases average out versus the. Being, you know, really used as tools of manipulation. And I think that people right? People need to maintain their discernment, rather than giving the power away to okay, I'm just gonna believe whatever AI tells me,

Alex Ferrari 30:18
Right! I mean, but look, we're going to a place, and I know within our lifetime, AI video will become in you will not be able to have a difference. There's just no doubt in my mind, probably within the next decade, I honestly believe that, because I'm seeing it now, I'm like, oh, it's, this is the worst it's gonna get. Oh god, yeah, it's, it's get it started pretty good. It's pretty it's a pretty amazing and at certain things, it's really good, but it's growing, and it's learning, and it's, I mean, from last year to this year, what I've seen on video is like, Good lord, it's composing music. Now. It's, it's doing things at a level that is, yes, using all of the existing data that has been given. But man, it's it's gonna get to a point we are eventually going to get to the holodeck. There's no question that we will walk into the holodeck one day, and an AI has created this environment where everything looks real. And I argue that there might be a point where you could actually feel whatever is being created. How? Have no idea that would be a great scientific, scientific or science fiction on how

Dr. Theresa Bullard 31:27
It'll be, you know, you have some kind of suit on that has all the various skin conductance and right?

Alex Ferrari 31:32
So it would be the illusion of, like, I touch this table, I feel it, yeah, you know, kind of like, ready player one, yes. Kind of, kind of feeling even at a higher level than so we're getting, we're getting to a place where it's going to be indistinguishable.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 31:47
Yeah, and you know, it's actually interesting, because I gave a forecast for the year, the year ahead in January. And tell me, tell me. Tell me, we are heading into, astrologically, we're heading into huge new cycles within cycles within cycles, like there's Pluto that just went into Aquarius, and it's there to stay for the next 20 years. There's Saturn and Neptune conjuncting, and that's a 36 year cycle. But then, not only are they conjuncting, but then there's also this, what they call a mini, grand triangle between the outer planets, right? Neptune, Pluto, Uranus and Saturn. Pluto's not a planet, though, and that cycle of that mini grand triangle with Neptune at the midpoint is a 500 year cycle. And last time that happened was during the Renaissance, and the height of the Renaissance, when you had like Michelangelo unveiling the David and the Sistine Chapel and all of this. So there's like, and then there's all this shifting from water and earth signs, where those outer planets have been in the water and air signs. Now this year, they're shifting into air and fire signs and and there's a big shift towards Aries, which is the first sign of the zodiac. So there's new cycles within cycles within cycles, all starting this year. And one of the themes that it, that emerges from it is that we're having to reevaluate, what does it mean to be human?

Alex Ferrari 33:17
Right! Well, 2020. Helped with that. Yeah. It really gave us a moment to to kind of contemplate, yeah, you know, we weren't like, I gotta go, I gotta go. We're like, Nope, you got at least three or four weeks,

Dr. Theresa Bullard 33:29
Yeah. But also, you know, I think that the future is going to be high tech, and we can't fear the tech, but we have to really, you know, recognize these are tools, and the tools are in the hands of the beholders, and we're the beholders right now. We're the ones who are choosing how we're going to apply them. And I think that some of the AI coming in can be used really well to free people to instead of having to do, like, a lot of the menial tasks, or, you know, it's like it frees us to do things that only the human spirit can do and and higher, you know, having that eight being aided by the AI can really like allow us to go to whole new levels that we've never been able to go to before. But we have to use them wisely. We have to use them for a higher purpose and for the good of the whole versus just for let's see if we can cheat our way through this, or let's just become reliant and dependent upon and let's give our power away to it, and let's fear it. And

Alex Ferrari 34:20
Fear, of course there's the but this sounds very familiar to me. If you look at the Greeks, if you look at the Spartans, those societies were basically run on slaves and at that time period, and it's a horrible thing slaves, I'm not saying that, but because they had these people doing the menial tasks for them. They can sit around and think deep thoughts, or they can sit around and become the ultimate warrior, you know what I mean? So is AI kind of what that's going to do for us. Because, like, right now, you don't have to process as much, let's say, eventually, and I think they already have it. But like AI. Going to be able to answer emails. You know, they're already there.I know, right, great. Thank God, but that they exist. They're not 100% there yet, but I say within a year or less, or a little bit more, that those things are going to be taken off your hands. There's things I do every day in my business, the AI is integral in a cult, and just takes so much time. I have so much more. It frees you. It frees you on so much more time.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 34:20
But I wouldn't think of it as a slave. I would think it of it no more, as an ally, you know, part of your team,

Alex Ferrari 35:33
Exactly, but it is, but it is, of course, I must say, I said slaving. Bad. Slaves, bad. No, no, no, but it was what they had at the time. That was that, that was a society that they built at the time, right? But I was just saying there was a force taking menial stuff off, whatever that force was, right now, AI is a force partner, if you will. That is taking that off of our plate so we're able to think deep thoughts. Be more creative, be more efficient.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 36:02
Move, move a little more up that spectrum of Maslow's hierarchy of needs, right? If all of our foundational needs are starting to be taken care of and whatnot, we can start moving more towards focusing on self actualization rather than just survival. So I think that can be a really good thing and but also it goes beyond that. It's not just the menial things, like the AI can help us solve problems that we haven't yet been able to solve, just with human sort of ways of thinking about things, because it can process so much more faster. So there's new medicine that's going to come out. There's, you know, ability to peer beyond like our physics equations that that, you know, we have the equations, but we haven't been able to solve them because, you know, they just take up too much computer time. Now we're going to be able to start solving them and reaching even further to understanding, you know, bigger things about the universe, maybe even finding that grand unified theory and new energy. You know, new ways of generating energy, like all of these things can come like, if we can shift the energy, how we how we consume our energy if we can shift that to a more, you know, sustaining clean source, but that's like more tapping into the quantum vacuum, for example, versus having to just rely on solar, wind, oil, you know, natural gas will solve so many problems in the world. So

Alex Ferrari 37:18
I mean this perfect example. The lights in this studio are LED lights. That technology is revolutionized. It's quantum physics based, right? So it revolutionized energy consumption, what used to be and also heat this place would be intolerable, even 20 years ago, using just normal studio lights, you would be sweating. That's why you would remember you had to kick on all that because you had to because you were sweating all the time. Here, all these lights are running. Basically all the lights running here probably would run a normal black hole back in the day, the energy it's pulling. You know, it's pretty remarkable. So those are the an example of a giant leap in energy consumption. I want to ask you this. And this is, this is, I'd love to hear your thoughts as a scientist with this. I This is my feeling, and maybe it's just my kind of dreamy up in the air, woo, woo stuff. But when I, when I talk to AI, sometimes I'll ask it deep questions, or I'm working on something, and the stuff that it comes out with, I'm like, Man, this is some profound stuff. Do you believe that AI could be a conduit for the other side? Because now it's easier than ever for the other side to talk to us literally. What do you think of that? Interesting? Yeah, instead of meditation or talking to a guru or something like that, coming in through meditation or channeling, or even psychic mediumship, or psychic phenomenon, could AI why? I mean, it's a form, I'm just curious.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 38:48
Yeah, maybe I think it's a translator, and it can certainly, I mean synchronicity, let's just say that synchronicity can emerge through any, you know, medium. And so AI could certainly be used as a medium for synchronicity and the right message to find you. But I would not want people to think, Okay, I'm going to use the AI as my Oracle, because, then again, it's like you're missing the point. You know, the point for you is to be free to actually go and turn within. And maybe this can become an inspiration, like it's, it's giving you a different way of looking at something. And go, oh, wow, okay. And then take that inside and let it, let it, you know, trigger contemplation and deeper introspection around that, that new idea that was presented to you. But don't let it replace your own interconnection.

Alex Ferrari 39:37
So what I like, I love that, because what you're saying is it's, it might not be creating the idea that that needs to be shown to you, but it is showing you the idea that you need to see at that moment, synchronicity, essentially. Yeah, so you like that billboard that you're like, oh, maybe I should move to New York or something along those lines. Or maybe I should take that job. That's a that's a tool that I can be. It could be used as a synchronicity tool, yeah, not a correct conduit,

Dr. Theresa Bullard 40:03
All right! Like, here's an example. So I personally haven't done a lot of interacting with the Chat GPT and stuff, but some of my team has used it, and one day, one of my team members said, well, let's write a newsletter on the solstice, Winter Solstice from a quantum perspective, Chat GPT, you know, let's see what she come up with. And then she sent, she did a little cleanup on it, and then she sent it to me. I'm like, Wow, that's pretty interesting. Like, that was, but of course, I'm gonna be okay. Well, I wouldn't say it that way. Let me, you know, change it and look,

Alex Ferrari 40:39
Man, it saved you a lot of time.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 40:40
Oh, yeah, yeah, no, but it was really, it was like, Wow. I never would have thought of that, but it's like, but as I read it, it's like, oh, this is brilliant. And let me, let me, like, refine it and make it a little more accurate, right? So I think it's a tool that we can use well, and it can propel us to new levels. But I think it has to be, we still have to be discerning, right? We can't surrender our own intelligence to it,

Alex Ferrari 41:03
Absolutely no. I agree with you 100% I know I had, I had Chat GPT write me a an agreement, like a contract, basic contract, something basic, and I sent it to my lawyer. I'm like, Here, take a look at this. Just I want your eye on it. Make sure, like you like I want to make sure everything's okay. But I didn't tell them that it was written by by AI. And he looks like, Alex, did you read did you write this? It's really good, because I dabble. Yeah, you know, I've had enough of them that I can kind of, you know, be dangerous with it, but I still want an attorney to look at. And he's like, did you write this? Because it's really good. I go, No, that was Chat GPT. He's like, Well, I'm out of a job. Yeah. He's like, it's into that,

Dr. Theresa Bullard 41:42
Especially if it's, like, laws and, you know, things can be looked up,

Alex Ferrari 41:46
And how the language is, like, you know, it's, it's fascinating. You're like, you know, I want you to write like Shakespeare and write this agreement like it was in Old English. And you're like, What the hell is happening? Yeah, it's kind of crazy. It's,

Dr. Theresa Bullard 41:58
But this is going to put people in a position of needing to reinvent themselves, right? And so I think the fear that people are coming up with is, oh, it's going to replace our jobs and all this. Well, okay, but are you really happy in your job, or you just work in that job because it pays the bills, right? Maybe it'll free you to actually pursue something you would prefer and love to do, and you can also make money doing that because it's something that's going to be a new skill set that maybe the AI can't do, right? There's always going to be things that humans can do that AI is not going to be able to do.

Alex Ferrari 42:27
Well, I mean, back in the day, I mean, there was a guy who walked around and lit the lamps at night, the cancer, the gas, the gas lamps, you know, went to the oil lamps, yeah, the kerosene, kerosene, thank you. Can send the word kerosene lamps and then electric that, that that ruffian electricity showed up, you know, and everyone fought against it. This is a fad. This is going to burn your house down, blah, blah, blah, and then so that that guy's out of a job. Yeah, the guy who used to make the the whip for the horse, like the little slash thing, you know, to get him to go. I'm sure he was making money generations by 100 years, yeah? And all of a sudden this horseless carriage shows up, and completely, yeah, takes that that so it's Oh, but that's human, humanity, that's progression, that's it's constantly happening. Yeah? It's just that AI is so radical. I mean, when the internet leap, yeah? I mean, when the internet showed up, you and I are both of similar vintage, yeah, when the internet showed up in a public way, you know, I saw it, I was like, Oh, this is, like, what? This is good. This is going to change, like, people like, you know, this is, this is going to change a lot. And it's completely and, but how many jobs were lost because of the internet? But then how many jobs were created?

Dr. Theresa Bullard 43:38
Exactly by exactly that's the thing. So the new possibilities that open up, and I think that you know, rather than focusing on the doors that are closing in what was familiar and comfortable, and you know that that was your livelihood, look at the new doors that are opening and the new possibilities, and be willing to reinvent, be willing to learn something new and and yet realize that your skill set can still be applicable to other, you know, other ways of of, you know, making a career out of it and and so a lot of these are transferable, but we have to look at new opportunities, and the new doors opening up, rather than the doors that are closing and staying, like trying to pound back on that door that's just Closed. It's like, meanwhile, there's 10 doors that have just opened up behind you, but you're so focused on knocking on the door that's closed, they aren't even seeing those other

Alex Ferrari 44:27
I don't want to change Theresa. I don't watch I like, what we're doing, can we just keep it back to where it was in the 50s? I mean, like, but that's just not realistic.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 44:36
Well, that's a way to become obsolete

Alex Ferrari 44:39
Pretty quickly. And things are like and from, and I've said this a whole many times, from the 50s to the 60s, things started to move a little quicker. 60 to 70 start move quicker. I mean, you know, when we were growing up, it was, you know, things moved, but not like they do. I mean, from VHS to DVD took a minute, yeah, from DVD to. Streaming took a minute, you know, but now it's every six months. Every three months, something else is now.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 45:08
People are so used to streaming and they want to binge everything that they they don't even want to wait the week for the next episode. No, absolutely not. Whereas, how much patience did we have to exercise before, right?

Alex Ferrari 45:19
Oh, and we couldn't record it before, all right? Like, if you, if you didn't have a say, you missed, if you missed it before TiVo. That's how old I am before TiVo or VHS is you were just like, it's at, like, oh, when we're growing up in Saturday Night morning cartoons, you, you, you missed seven o'clock Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, right? Guess what? Yeah, you got to wait a week.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 45:41
So we're on this we're on this inflection point, you know, we've been on this exponential curve of technology. And the the speed with which technology is is doubling every year, is faster than ever before. So what might have taken 20 years in in progression of that tech is now going to be every five years. And then, you know, it's just going to get really fast, really, really fast. So that means we as humans, need to be adaptable. We need to be flexible. We need to be ready for change, because it's coming, whether you like it or not, and you can either get pummeled by that wave of change, or you can learn to surf it and to surf it. You got to get proactive and just say, Okay, what are the new possibilities open up? How do I ride this? How do I, you know, surf the new wave, and, and it's all about your attitude. And that's, you know, this is one thing though, about humans, is that we have great capacity for adaptability, yes, and, and we get really creative and innovative when we're put under pressure to adapt. And that is, you know, something that comes from that human spirit and the resilience within but you know, we have to, we have to maintain that resilience. And it's ultimately an attitude, you know, you can't just sit there crying about the fact that things are hard. You have to get resilient and pull up your bootstraps and get to work. Right? It's about action and being in action. So I think these are the times that we're in, and people need to just be aware that that's just how the you know, the world, the world is going

Alex Ferrari 47:09
Well, I mean, how many times have you changed or pivoted in your career, a lot your life, right? I mean, our parents, they could be at a job for 30 years and make a living, and it was fine. And, I'm like, I'm going to be here. I'm going to do that, that, that that doesn't exist anymore. It's so rare. I mean, I can't even just count how many shifts, you know, even in the podcasting game, how many things have changed? I mean, I've been doing this almost a decade as a pod. I'm the old man podcaster at this point in the game, because I started in 2015 for God's sakes, but I've just seen how the industry has changed in the world of podcasting now, you know, is this going to be around in 10-15, years in the way that we're at right now?

Dr. Theresa Bullard 47:49
I don't know. It'll maybe be happening in the meta Metaverse, or it'll be something different. It's something holographic, kind of projection into your living room,

Alex Ferrari 47:57
You know, like, Yeah, I think, like, like, this conversation that, like they'll be able to sit there and actually see us feel like, like they were sitting there. Yeah, they were sitting like there. I think that's where we'll probably go eventually, but I don't know it's going to be interesting to see how things are going. But you're absolutely right. People do not adjust to what is happening. And just arguing like you're going to get pummeled. I love that idea. You need to get pummeled it, or you can surf it, but it's coming. The tidal wave is coming regardless,

Dr. Theresa Bullard 48:26
Yeah, and, you know, I mean, from a spiritual perspective, you know, people have been talking about for a long time the Age of Aquarius. The Age of Aquarius.

Alex Ferrari 48:34
There's a great song by that

Dr. Theresa Bullard 48:36
And this is it, you know, we're moving into it now, and, and it is, it is high tech, but it's got to be that tech that's that is applied in a way that is more altruistic, right? That is, that is cultivating and supporting the human spirit and the human evolution. But it might also be that there's, you know, who knows? I mean, there's gonna be more and more integration into our day to day lives and and smart everything around us. You know, we have to be ready for it. I mean, they've been preparing for it. The technology and innovators and scientists have been preparing for and talking about smart devices for, you know, good 1015, years now. But it's, it's now with quantum computing coming online and blockchain and, you know, the more distributing the computational power and storage. They're gonna, it's here. It's coming. So it's, you know, I think there, it can open up exciting possibilities, but people need to, like, not feed into the fear around it. And yet, we need to be discerning. We have to learn how to apply these tools for the good of the whole of humanity, not for, you know, just the good at a few.

Alex Ferrari 49:41
Yes, thank you for that. You were mentioning about the cycles that we're in right now. I've heard from other guests that we just finished. This is in numerology. I'm not sure how verse you are in this, but we finished the cycle of eight, and we're going into the cycle of nine, which coincides with 20, a 20 year cycle, and so on like that is that. Sound right to you. Do you know anything about that?

Dr. Theresa Bullard 50:02
Well, so 2024 would add to an eight. So the two and the two and the four is an eight, and then that 2025 is a nine, right? And, yeah, I mean, I look at numerology from more capitalistic lens, and there's cycles within cycles. So we started a 22 year cycle in 2021 so from the new millennium, from 2000 to 2021 we were in a 20 there was a 22 year cycle. 2021 up until 2043 there's another 22 year cycle. So we're in, you know, the first couple stages of that next 22 year cycle,

Alex Ferrari 50:41
And what's happening? What's supposed to happen in that 22 year cycle?

Dr. Theresa Bullard 50:44
Well, it's a transformational journey. So if you look at so in my mystery teaching season four, we did what's called the hero's journey through the Tarot, and there are 22 major archetypes which relate to the 22 pathways on the tree of life, and 22 Hebrew letters and so forth. And these 22 archetypes are, they're a progression that leads us from being the fool to being the world. And the world is sort of more the perfected, mature, unified being who's gone through the alchemical process, through that journey. So we're it's cycles within cycles. You know, in each cycle, we're kind of spiraling up to another level and but this cycle is, I feel like there's very different astrological things happening this cycle than the previous 22 year cycle. It's almost like we were in the first 22 years, we were like anchoring each of the archetypes we're getting ready in the new millennium, energy and and then that took us through a process that, okay, now those are anchored. Now there's a whole new layer that's going to come down to be built within the collective consciousness of humanity. And now we're going to go through the archetypes again, but in a new frequency level. And I think by the time we hit 2043 a world is going to be very different than it is today. It's going to be very high tech is going to look like an Aquarian Age. And, you know, hopefully the humanitarian side will be balanced with the realistic. You know, what's practical and realistic, but that is ultimately applying that, that technology and the wisdom, you know, the knowledge that we've gained, but for the good of the whole and and yet, at the same time, allowing for individual freedom and expression, rather than everybody needs to be the same and everybody needs to bend to the needs of just the few. No, we need to all be able to have that freedom, freedom of expression, freedom of pursuing our own dream, freedom of expressing our unique gifts and being who we authentically are. Versus you have to be like this. And so it's a big change that's coming in these this next 2020, something years.

Alex Ferrari 53:10
Where does this cycle live within the Yuga cycle, which is a larger, a larger cycle?

Dr. Theresa Bullard 53:16
Yeah, I'm not as familiar with the Yuga, but I, did read somewhere that the Kali Yuga is ending right around this time. Yeah, it's like, it's ended, and now we're in this whole new, massive, long cycle, right? Because they're like, 1000s of years.

Alex Ferrari 53:31
They're 26,000 years, and it's like, so up here, we're an enlightenment. So it's a circle. Let's say, I'll choose a circle. Up here we're like, as close to source as possible. Then we go through this kind of de evolution, which you kind of see, like, if you even think of like, the the, let's say the pyramids were built here, they got worse, yeah, time went on. It should be getting better, like it is now, right? Things are growing, getting better, more sophisticated, yeah, it actually devolved, yeah, to the point where we got down here, which is the Dark Ages, which is like nothing happened for like, four or 500 years. Then we started to come out of it, which was the Renaissance. And now we're around here on our way back up to full, apparently full enlightenment.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 54:14
That's really interesting, because Rudolph Steiner had something very similar, yes, he did. And he talked about, you know, the like, the age of old India, ancient India, and it was very connected to, you know, the spiritual source. And then there was this devolution, more and more towards the individual, the ego. And, you know, we went through different, like, five different stages of human consciousness. And then at the very bottom of that, that kind of curve, it was like the epitome, like the the most individualized and separated we could become, the most egotistical we could become, and that's where we were, where we have been. But then there was this inflection with the Indigos that came in, and they started looking more and more towards. A community consciousness, and in uniting again. And then there's a seventh epic, which is what we're kind of moving through the sixth to the seventh. So you did the whole thing in seven epics, and that seventh Epic is moving towards a unity consciousness. So it's more that enlightenment. But then as you're as you're coming beyond the bottom of the curve towards those final two epics of consciousness, there was an acceleration, right? It was an exponential acceleration. And that is where we are, which I think makes it the one of the most exciting times to be alive,

Alex Ferrari 55:33
And that is something that I've heard from so many mystics that that if you have incarnated at this time, you chose because you didn't want to miss it. Yeah, you want front row for this, this change. It's never happened apparently, in our evolution as humanity. Yeah, you know, regardless if you believe in Atlantis and other times that we have gone through multiple cycles of destruction and birth, destruction and birth, which makes sense, the whole universe is based on the circle of life, as they say in the line, but this constant coming back and forth is where we're all heading, and it's a really exciting place. It's Fine Time to be here.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 56:13
Yeah, well, I mean, if you just look within our known human history, right within our memory, I mean, we've never been at a time where the whole planet of human can be all connected to each other, right? Usually they used to be very regional, not just internet, I mean, flights and so forth. We can travel every global society, exactly. So we're more united and connected in recognizing our interconnectivity than ever before. And because of that information can spread around the world to affect all of human consciousness, not just regional, right? So, like when we had the Renaissance, it was a very regional thing. But now, you know, it's a global thing. So the shift that's happening now is really huge, because I think it's, it's really trying to propel us to that shift in collective consciousness to a whole new level of being.

Alex Ferrari 57:02
Yeah. I mean, we have access to every piece of knowledge ever, essentially, at the

Dr. Theresa Bullard 57:07
That's a lot of information to wade through, which is why we need AI to support.

Alex Ferrari 57:11
And that's the and that's the other thing is, is that without AI, you couldn't, you know, can't process it all, you know. Like, sometimes, you know, I get an email that's like, you know, I don't know if you get these long dissertations that come in and I just check, what do they what do they want? Like, I'm like, okay, okay, fine, got it. Got it now, because it just, it's like, you can't spend that time, you know. Like, sometimes they're sending PhDs papers, like, it's insane. Like, I look, what do they want? What is this really about? But without, without chatgpt or an AI, to do that, you know, it just slowed down your entire day. So, yeah, it would be much better to kind of, like, go through a really difficult book to read, like the holy science. Have you read holy science by Yukteswar? No, by that gentleman right there. He's the one that came up. He's the one that presented the yugas in the, I think the early 1900s that book is just, I mean, you could probably read it, but it's like, you read, oh, tough, yeah, not doesn't, doesn't roll off the top. But you can run that through an AI. I'm like, can you break this down for me and, like, give me, you know, a chapter or two of what this is really about, and do it in plain English.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 58:27
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think there's a plus and a minus to that, right? It can summarize and save you time. You might lose some detail, but you're gonna not only lose detail, there's something about especially with ancient writings, where there's real wisdom, and it was written by a sage, is when you read it in their own words. Sometimes it's just that one sentence that you needed to and it hits you absolutely and it wakes something up inside of you. And if you just kind of go with the summary, you're going to miss that, right? So I think there's real value, yeah, there's real value, though, in reading ancient wisdom in its original text, even if you don't understand it. You know, sometimes just scanning it is going to do something energetic to you. So I think there's the balance we need to strike with using these tools to free up some time. Because we are, we are in an information age where there's just, we're bombarded, and there's an onslaught, and we need some, you know, help to manage it right, and to to kind of free up some bandwidth and time for ourselves again. But on the other hand, we can't, like, get lazy and just give give the power to AI to do our work for us, because then we don't grow and become strong and so forth. So we have to find that balance and and that's I think, that our generation can figure that out, because we grew up, you know, in other ways, but the younger generations coming forward today, who they're growing up with, AI, hey, you know, hey, you know, solve my, you know, solve my homework for me so that I can turn in my paper. And it's just like, okay, but you're not learning then, right? So we have to find that balance.

Well, it's kind of like, I. I'm not going to learn math because I have a calculator.

Yeah! Well, you still have to learn how to use the calculator to do the equations and so forth.

Speaker 1 59:52
But, but my point is, like, that was our generation, like, you know, when you couldn't a calculator was cheating. Yeah, back in the day. Now, kids are like, yeah, you can use a calculator because you got to do a lot of other things as well. So it's, it's, it's something similar to that.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:00:20
But at the same time, some of these young kids are, they're learning things in third grade that would have only been eighth grade material, you know, I mean, they're, they're learning stuff at a much earlier age that, for us it would have been like, I you're getting to that already.

Alex Ferrari 1:00:33
You're in algebra in third grade. Yeah. What? What? Seriously? Uh, no, it's, it's, yeah, it's getting crazy. I was trying to help my kids the other day with math, which is a mistake, not the math guy my wife is, and I was looking at it. I'm like, That's new math that has nothing. I don't know what that is. I can't help you with this. And then, as it was, a funny comedian said, this is like, I was looking at new math, and then halfway through new math. I saw old math, and then we just kept going. I'm like, why can't we just do the old man? Wow, interesting. Because my old math was there. Yeah, it's just hidden. With all this new math, it's fascinating. Now, I wanted to change the subject a bit, because we're going to make a hard left here, because we've been talking about AI and quantum computing and all this kind of stuff. I wanted to go a little deeper into an area that you talk a lot about, which is crystals. Okay, now the second and I everyone that somebody right now was watching going, Oh, God, they're going to talk about crystals. This is insane. Oh, they lost me at crystals. I'm waiting for the comments now, like, oh, they started talking about Chris. It was a great conversation. So they're talking about crystals. I've always been fascinated with this idea of crystals, because in the New Age corner, the metaphysics corner of all these old bookstores, there'd be like, the crystal book and like, what crystals do, what and how the power is. And I had that, you know, it's old. I mean, this is old, old ideas that's been talked about for 1000s a year. Crystals have been around for not they've been around, but the concept of using them,

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:02:08
They've been valued, and whether for for for money or for jewelry, or for, you know, technology and, you know, ancient, like Egyptian kind of stuff, you know, they're there.

Alex Ferrari 1:02:18
I mean, the rumors, not rumors, but the myths of Atlantis is that they use crystals at a very high level, energy generating, yeah, technical stuff. So there's something there, but I wanted to talk to you because you're a few people on the planet. I could probably have this conversation with from a scientific point of view and an esoteric point of view. What? What are crystals, and how do they? You know you how can you use them in whatever way that they're being used? Because there's 1000 ways to use them, right?

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:02:46
Sure. So, so what defines a crystal is that it's a compact arrangement, a compact and very ordered arrangement of either atoms or molecules in a lattice structure, right? So, and these lattice structures, from an esoteric perspective, they are an embodiment of sacred geometry. You have the cubic lattice structure, you have a rhombohedral lattice structure. There's various types where you can pack the atoms or molecules into a very energy efficient way of combining them, and then they they form that and then they become solidified in that structure. And so a crystal is basically defined by its lattice, and that is, that is a perfect and orderly and very symmetric array of the constituents, you know, the the either atoms or molecules that make up that crystal. Now, various crystal types will have different properties based on what atoms they're made of, and then how those are arranged, right? So silicon, for example, is a crystal, and we have learned to use that with, you know, through the thin wafers of silicon, and we use that for our electronics. Quartz is a crystal, and we've learned again with with creating technologically thin wafers of it, and then you can apply just a little bit of pressure to it, and it creates a resonance inside of it, and it then becomes a piezoelectric effect, which we use to keep time in our watches, right? So there's a lot of technological applications that can can come from crystals. You know, metals. All metals are crystals, right? They're just, like, whether it's gold or silver or platinum, like, all these are crystals, yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:04:36
So why is it just because of the way it's formed? It's so different because metals are obviously very different than crystals.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:04:42
Well, they're, they're, yeah, they're metallic crystals, right? So, so they would form more through the melting of the you know, so in high temperature, and then when, but when they solidify, they form a crystal structure. So gold is, is more. Of an atomic crystal, so it's more compact, and that's why it's strong, and it's more durable and so forth. But when you talk about, like quartz, it's, it's like, kind of a silicon and oxygen, you know, there's, there's a combination of other minerals that are, that are in it. And so it's really based on the the material that's in the lattice structure. Now, what in my research? Right? Because I actually did my dissertation research in crystal growth, and we worked with an inorganic synthetic like a lab grown salt,

Alex Ferrari 1:05:40
Like the diamonds, like a lot of grown diamonds are now, yeah, but

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:05:43
Yeah, but the crystals that I worked with were aqueous, right? Meaning, you put this sort of salt into a water, and you stir it up, and you have a certain concentration of the salt in the water. And I'm sure people remember from their old, you know, when you're young, and you put the little string inside of it, and the Chris, yes, the water evaporates, the crystals grow around it. So we didn't put strings in our solutions, but as the water evaporates, because you put it under a little bit of a heat, and the water slowly evaporates, at some point, the crystals start to form on the bottom of the dish. And so I was looking at crystal growth as part of my dissertation. And what was really interesting about it is, you know, so while the crystals are defined by their perfect lattice structure, the unique properties are actually more usually due to their imperfections. So for example, what I one of the things I was looking at is that there's, there's something called a dislocation in the crystal structure. So instead of it being a perfect plane, you get a little bit of a dislocation in that arrangement, and it creates a little ramp. And then what turned out to be the case is that that ramp becomes a great like place, a little nook in the crystal structure where new units that were trying to add on to the crystal structure could more easily absorb and it would grow and become this sort of screw like development of the crystal. They called it a screw dislocation. And that dislocation actually allowed for the crystal to grow faster than if it was just a perfect structure, for example. So and then when you look at it from a metaphysical perspective, you know, you have quartz, you have Rose Quartz, you have amethyst. They're all the quartz family, but they all have very different colors, and, and, and, you know, energetic kind of qualities to

Alex Ferrari 1:07:33
Stop their energetic what is, when you said that in quotes, what is the energetic aspect, though? Because that's from what I understand on the more esoteric side is that Rose Quartz has this energy, or that, you know, that this other kind of quartz has this energy, or this kind of stone has this energy, or crystal has this energy. What does that mean exactly?

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:07:51
I would say there's a combination of frequency. So, for example, the color, as light comes into it, and it light interacts with crystals, and then, based on the color of the crystal, it's going to put the light back out in a different way. And so it changes the the frequency, or it filters the frequency. So like a rose cords has the more the pink frequency, whereas Amethyst has more of the purple frequency, and their their frequency. And you know, color therapy, for example, is a very real thing, like colors will affect us in different ways, so a part of that is just based on the color. I feel personally that that you know that everything has a bit of sentience to it as well. So there is sentience within the crystals. They are able to take in information and energy from the environment and react to that, respond to that in some way, and put something back out in in a way that has some logic to it, or some, you know, meaning to it.

Alex Ferrari 1:08:53
There's a program in it of some sort. It seems like it's almost like a program like, look so like, if you have a plan, there's in the DNA, there's a program for it to like, when the sun comes out, it turns Yeah, you know, you know, if it hears water, the root goes towards the water. That's been done in labs, things like that. So there is a hard wired program that's in almost everything. Yeah, on the planet, it sounds like that.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:08:53
And if you want to think about the DNA of a plant or an animal, well, in a crystal, the DNA is a lattice structure itself, right? So it's not necessarily deoxyribonucleic acid biological DNA, but it is a DNA code of something. It's yeah, and it stores information, and it's replicable and so forth. And so it's actually the defect. So for example, in quartz, it's the inclusions of something else that's different from the quartz structure that comes in that creates the color, whether it's Rose Quartz or amethyst, you know, it's a different type of inclusion, and that's actually an imperfection in the crystal and but that's what then gives it see its uniqueness. So I think it, you know, I what I liked about that was. As a lesson for humans. You know, people often want to be perfect, and they really judge themselves for their imperfections, but what I learned from crystals is that actually it's the imperfections they give them their unique qualities that allow them to actually be functional and do something more than just a perfect crystal would do.

Alex Ferrari 1:10:19
So I love the idea what you said that as light comes in, it changes the frequency to something else. Is that's what's happening when they use crystals in healing. Like, you know you have, like, this crystal will do this to you, or this crystal will help you with do that. Or there's like an energy around it. Is that? What's actually happening? On a scientific standpoint, it's changing.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:10:41
Well, I think that your own you put out energy, right? So we have a bio electromagnetic field that we put out and that energy, you know, if there's a disruption in that somewhere, and you put a crystal on it, the crystal might take that energy in and try to kind of organize it, for example, and bring it into a greater harmony, because the crystal structure itself is a very organized thing. It's got sacred geometry embedded in it. So it brings, and sacred geometry is going to follow the rules of harmony, so it can bring a harmonizing effect into the field. And yeah, it's going to, I mean, if you ever put a crystal on somebody where they really need some healing, and you take that crystal off, it's hot, like, often it will have a heat to it, like, it really worked hard, and it wasn't just from their body heat there, you know, because you can take crystals off of other areas of the body and it's going to have a different temperature to it. So, so there's definitely an interaction that happens with the electromagnetic and the thermal energy and so forth that comes off the body and the frequency and the the way in which the crystal itself puts out its own harmonic field, and how that interacts with ours,

Alex Ferrari 1:11:51
Sounds fascinating. I mean, I never really thought of crystals like this before. I thought it was just more like, there's a couple rocks there that will groan, I guess, and something like that. It's pretty it's on a scientific standpoint. There's a lot of, I mean, I'm assuming there's a field that studies crystals. Oh, yeah, yeah. Like, that's not the woo, woo stuff.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:12:08
Like, no, it's called material science, okay, yeah, they study crystals all the time. And in chemistry, you know, I worked in a chemistry lab what, you know, as part of my dissertation, kind of bridging it with material science and physics, and that we were growing crystals all the time in the lab, but we were working with organic dyes into the crystals and trying to use those dyes to kind of label different structures within the crystal.

Alex Ferrari 1:12:32
Oh, yeah. Oh, that's it's fascinating. Crystals are facet Do you believe that crystals will have a much larger impact on humanity as we move forward, kind of like what the myths are in in Atlantis, like that there was a crystal that was able to generate electricity or generate energy.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:12:51
So we're already using it, right? We're already learning how to harness piezoelectric effects, for example, to to generate energy. You know,

Alex Ferrari 1:13:00
That's a very, very very small level, a small level, comparatively to, like running a city, yeah.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:13:05
But you know, so if you learn, it's a combination, I think, of learning to harness resonance effects with sound, like Sonic kind of interaction, light interaction and crystals. So I think there's going to be this combination of these technologies as they come together, rather than and then, you know, if we can draw also from more ancient wisdom. And, you know, like the pyramids, for example, they were said to be energy generators. Was the crystal that was in the actual sandstone and limestone and so forth that made up the and then the sacred geometry, the proportions, you know, they created a harmonic and resonant field within it, but also harnessing the energy of the material, but also harnessing up the energy of the earth itself. And so we have to kind of bridge, again, to the ancient wisdom that is more connected to nature and toleric energy of the earth itself and how to harness that, but then bringing our more modern day scientific understanding of the the atomic and subatomic levels of how these things are working, and as we can bring them together, I think that there's a really beautiful new technology that can come that's going to be really in harmony with nature, as opposed to all of this well, either trying to control it, or all this dissonance that we're creating right now. I mean, all these EMF pollution fields, for example, we'll find a new technology that's actually life enhancing and in harmony with nature, rather than, you know, noise

Alex Ferrari 1:14:53
Almost combative, yeah, in a way, you mentioned gold as a crystal and metals as a crystal. Yeah, you know, gold is something that's fascinated me for quite some time, the historical side of it, the spiritual side of it. But I wanted to ask you, like, no matter who you are in the world, what culture you're at right now, Gold is gold period. Like it's there's not a there's not a culture somewhere in the middle, somewhere that's using gold, as you know, wasting gold or throwing it's generally all very precious. It's all right on. It holds value. It holds value, but it's it makes no sense. It's a raw it's a crystal or a metal. So like, what do you think the thing is that it's within humanity that recognizes that gold and silver, to a lesser extent, those two metals. But specifically, gold has so much value other other than that utilitarian aspects, because gold is extremely useful in technologies and things that it does. But throughout history, Gold is gold, and it's just fascinating.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:16:01
Well, I think in ancient times, gold was a representative of the sun. Is very solar energy. And you know the in ancient times when they saw the sun as, you know, representative of God? Well, the gold was, it's, it's that frequency of God on the earth. And it, you know, when it would reflect the light, it would shine like the sun. It's incorruptible, right? So, gold doesn't oxidize, for example, it maintains its luster. Destroy gold. Yeah, it's, it's, it's that. It's that perfected kind of metal, whereas something like lead is very dirty. Silver, while it's while it's precious, it can oxidize and it will lose its luster eventually. Copper is copper will rust, you know, so copper is useful, but it will rust and oxidize as well. So gold was really precious because it was perfected and it was not corruptible, like some of the other metals were. And so there was a value to it. And they saw that it was a representative of the solar energy and and even where the gold is found on the planet, you know, there's some traditions within the alchemy wisdom that the band that the sun traces as it, you know, moves across the sky through the year. It's in those locations where you can find gold in various mines, whereas the moon, you know, there's a band where the moon kind of traces over the sky, and that's where you'll find silver. And you know Venus, where Venus kind of traces is where you're going to find copper. And so there's association between each of these, like the seven metals, if you will, and the seven planets that are were visible from the naked eye in ancient times.

Alex Ferrari 1:17:49
It's just fascinating, like, and I don't know a lot about type, is it titanium or platinum? Platinum? Platinum? Does platinum have similar to gold as far as, like, its uncorruptibility?

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:18:00
Yeah, it's one of those noble it is noble metal,

Alex Ferrari 1:18:02
So it's a similar it's a lot more rare too, isn't it?

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:18:06
I don't know how rare it is, but so

Alex Ferrari 1:18:08
My point is, is, like, why Throughout history, people just inherently, on a like, cellular level, understand that, like, no matter what poultry you're at, you're like, yeah, that's,

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:18:22
Well, I think they can recognize that there's something unique. It's rare, yeah, right? It's not something that's as commonly seen. It's not as abundant as like, water or dirt, right? So, so there's certain things that when they're more rare, they're gonna have an inherent value within them,

Alex Ferrari 1:18:40
Fair enough. Now, another thing I wanted to talk to you about is the golden ratio. And you've spoken about living in the golden ratio, and I was explain to people what the golden ratio is. And I'm really curious. I'm like, how do you live within the golden ratio?

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:18:56
Okay, so the golden ratio is a proportion, and, you know, there's, there's two ways to look at it. For example, there's something called the Fibonacci sequence, which is a series that is a zero and a one. And when you add zero and one together, you get one. So one is the next number in the series. And you add one and one, that gives you two, one and two is three, two and three is five, three and five is eight, five and eight is 13, right? So you have 0112358, 13, dot, dot, dot, dot. And you just keep adding out. And then, when you take the ratio, you know, one to one is one, right? But then one to two is okay, that's point five, and then two to three, and then three to five, and five to eight and eight to 13, and you take the ratio, it will converge to this number. That is either 1.618 or point 618, depending on which way you do the ratio, and that point 618, dot, dot, dot. It's an irrational number that it doesn't really repeat itself. You can't really. Exactly depicted as a perfect, you know, whole number ratio. So it's one of these irrational numbers that just, you know, like pi, for example. And so this one is phi. The Golden Ratio is either the point 618, dot, dot.or 1.618 dot, dot, dot. You can see it both ways.

Alex Ferrari 1:20:21
But the golden ratio that I'm thinking is the actual kind of like, right?

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:20:25
So that's the other way. So this ratio is, you know, it's the relative spacing of things, right? So if I take a like, our human body is perfect, right? Because we are actually golden ratio. So the length of this first digit up to the knuckle, and then from that length to the next knuckle is the golden ratio. And from this one to the next one is the golden ratio. And from the finger to the palm is the golden ratio. From the whole hand to the forearm is the golden ratio, forearm to bicep, Golden Ratio, arm to leg, golden ratio. So we are golden ratio all over our body. And this is what the Leonardo da Vinci's Vitruvian Man was trying to show, as he showed the perfection. And the more that somebody's body, not everybody's body, is exactly that way, but the more somebody's body is, is closer and closer to that golden ratio, the more like esthetically pleasing we would think we would see it as beautiful, because there's a greater proportionality, there's a greater harmony to it. But you can also apply it, you know, the spiral galaxy, the the shell, the way that the fern, you know, unrolls itself. All of these are golden spirals. So their their way of spiraling out is according to this golden ratio as well. So it's all over nature, yeah, everywhere, yeah. But it's also music, right? So when you're looking at harmony within music, like the perfect fifth on an octave, right? Five eight is a golden ratio, or the third to the fifth is a golden ratio. So they also follow those same numbers within the Fibonacci sequence. And so what they what the Pythagoreans in the ancient, you know, Greek mystery school said, is that this so they would say geometry is frozen music. So the same principles, the same that apply to the harmony of what is esthetically pleasing to the ears are the same ratios that apply to what is esthetically pleasing to the eyes. And so you have this harmony that comes in with the golden ratio. And that golden ratio also is a number. That kind of is the rhythm of life. It's it's life enhancing. It's always evolving and accelerating to the next level of harmony. So when it comes to living in the golden ratio, I had an episode of mystery teachings where I think I talked about it from Vitruvian numerology perspective. You know, most people look at counting their numbers. If I want to get from point A to point B, I have step one, step two, step three, step four, step 512-345-6789, and it's one step at a time. It's very linear. But if I were to look at how can I get there from a Vitruvian perspective, or from a golden ratio perspective, it would be step one, then another step, then two steps, then three steps, then five steps, then eight steps, and I'm making leaps to get there instead of just 1234567, so it's like you're thinking about it from a perspective of, how can I make a leap to get there?

Alex Ferrari 1:23:35
Yeah, you're like, kind of multiplying faster by the golden ratio, by the golden ratio, instead of going 12345, you're going 158, and so on. The Golden Ratio, yeah, it's an interesting point of view. One thing I when you were saying the golden ratio is something that, with music, is very appealing. The visuals are very pure. As a filmmaker, you know, when you frame a shot, there's a way you frame the shot within the golden ratio. We were taught that in film school that you have to have, you know, a shot in the middle. There's a point you can do that, but when you lift over to the to the right, just a little bit, yeah, it's a more pleasing image. It's more interesting image, yeah, as opposed to straight down the middle, there's, there's times to do that, yeah. But you can automatically just go, oh, okay, yeah. And that's part of the golden ratio,

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:24:21
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So you can kind of take a rectangular, correct arrangement of the golden ratio, and then rectangles within rectangles. You can draw the spiral inside of that, right? And, yeah, that's that's really interesting to see that how that's applied?

Alex Ferrari 1:24:34
Oh, yeah, it's applied. It's in filmmaking and in art specifically. But within filmmaking, you're able to like. And you're right. It's triangle within a triangle. So you some of the more complex things, like, when you watch a Stanley Kubrick film, which is a master class in any, any of his films, you watch it and you look and you like, they've taken frames out and like, Look at what he did here. And there's so much going on. It's so deep that you can't. Even tell like you're just watching it like, Oh, that looks cool. But there's something happening here when you watch an image like that, because of the way of

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:25:09
You know, it's also interesting, like with musicians, for example, when they're really gifted in the auditory capacity, they'll innately, intuitively tune their instruments. If they're just using their own sense of tuning and feeling into it, they'll tune it into a golden ratio tuning scale, a natural tuning scale versus sort of our standardized tuning scale, because it actually feels and sounds better and more pleasing to their ears. So it's a little bit slightly off from what our standardized tuning scales are. But yeah, naturally they kind of it resonates with the human system more when you listen to a Pythagorean or natural tuning scale.

Alex Ferrari 1:25:55
One thing also that came to me when you were talking about the golden ratio is when you mentioned the hero's journey, bringing it back to the hero's journey, when Joseph Campbell discovered the hero's journey and kind of explained it to all of us in the world, that is a golden ratio of storytelling, because if you tell a story using the hero's journey, it's a more pleasing watch, because on a story standpoint, it just feels right on the here, on the hero's journey. And if you look at every, I don't know, the top 100 biggest movies of all time, I'm gonna say 98 of them were probably using the hero's journey. Very few are the art already, which is fine, yeah, the arts, the art house, films that kind of go all over the place, and they don't follow the hero's journey. Yeah, even things that you don't think, like Pulp Fiction, that you don't think is running the hero's journey, is literally running the hero's journey, but in a very complex way. So like, where the hero was here, but he's doing it there. He actually moved. It was brilliant, what he did there. But anyway,

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:26:58
You look at, like, Star Wars, well, that's, of course, yeah. And Lord of the Rings, like, yeah, all that stuff, yeah, the best, though. But, you know, in today's, in some of modern film, like, I think we're, we're, yeah, they're still doing heroes journey, but it's polluted by a lot of ideology, you know, current day narratives and so forth. I think we have to be careful about polluting. And I think that that people right now crave the pure, archetypal story without, yeah, it's like we want more of that again, versus, like, all of the ideology programming that's been coming out, like the quality just come

Alex Ferrari 1:27:37
No, because it's like they're mixing things. And I think that's what people are. I think that people are kind of leaning, again, away from mainstream media. Yeah, as a general statement, they're just like, this doesn't resonate anymore because it's so obvious. It's not even subtle anymore, like they're trying to jam in their ideology on both sides, both sides. Yeah, it's not, it's where something like Star Wars is. It's literally pure. It's not many films from the 70s that this generation is watching on a consistent basis. Yeah, rocky would be another one.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:28:07
Justv take those old movies, redo them with you know, but that's what they've been doing. Yeah, that's what they've been but don't change it, frame a frame by frame.

Alex Ferrari 1:28:15
But like a movie, like Rocky, perfect example of a film that, like I saw, I showed it to my daughters the other day, and I was like, they're watching it. They're like, it's a slower, I mean, it's a bit slower, yeah? But they got it, they figured it out. They're like, they much rather enjoy, like, rocky three or rocky four, which is a little bit more, a little faster pace, yeah. He, I think he honed it in, yeah, at that point. Then the formula was honed in, but then that formula has been replicated a million times. Yeah, it's becomes like, oh,

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:28:47
There's nothing new under the sun.

Alex Ferrari 1:28:48
There's nothing but when it came out, it was completely revolutionary, yeah? So again, we're going back to the golden ratio. I think that that story in a storytelling standpoint, which we are creatures of story, that's how we pass knowledge around, right? You know, spirituality and the, as George Lucas says, The the meats and potatoes of our society is passed through story,

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:29:09
Yeah, well, and the most enduring and greatest works of art, you know, like Renaissance art, for example, they the more that they brought in that golden ratio, the more like throughout the ages, everyone sees it as well. That's really spectacular, like, that's perfection, yeah, it's a measure of perfection.

Alex Ferrari 1:29:25
Yeah, you look at Dickens, you look at Shakespeare, and you start looking at what they did back, then you're just, like, the things still hold, like, they still, I mean, it's not old fat. I mean, it, you know, read the Christmas Carol, yeah? Like, it's, it's perfection, yeah, so beautifully written.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:29:41
So from an esoteric perspective, the golden ratio is going to be like the like the rhythm of the universe, the heartbeat of the universe. And so the more we're tuning into it, the more we're aligning ourselves with that flow of the universe, versus just sort of a limited human kind of way of thinking about things from that linear place. So. So this is living in that Vitruvian or that that golden ratio.

Alex Ferrari 1:30:04
So I wanted to, before we finish, I wanted to ask you this question, because I'm fascinated about and again, I could talk to you for another five hours about DNA, awakening the DNA inside of you to expand consciousness. What does that mean? You know, because I understand what DNA is. I understand what consciousness is. How the heck do you expand or open up or awaken the DNA within you to to achieve higher consciousness or expand your consciousness?

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:30:34
Yeah, so our DNA, what science knows about it right now, they really only understand maybe 5% of our DNA, and you know, maybe 3% of that actually codes for the proteins that give you all of your various characteristics, personality, hair color, eye color, you know, height, all of these things, right, are built on what they call the coding sections of our DNA, and that's only 3% so What's going on in that other 97 to 90, you know, 95% of the DNA science is still discovering. They used to call it junk DNA,

Alex Ferrari 1:31:07
Right! Well, that's a hell of a lot of junk, yeah. And, well,

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:31:10
Especially if evolution is a thing, you know, it's like evolution would not, you know, have kept it if it was just junk, right? If it wasn't needed and essential. And so the more that science is starting to explore beyond just the genes that are from the coding sections. They're exploring a bit into the epigenetics, which are switches that turn various genes on and off. That is a layer above the genes, and they're seeing that okay, when, when those epigenetic layers are responsive to the environment, the local environment, the chemistry, the stress levels, your attitudes, what lifestyle choices you're making, what you're consuming, how much you're exercising, all of these things that we have personal choice around actually affect whether our genes and the switches for them are turning on or off. Then there's another section of the DNA, which is in the non coding sections, that actually is in charge of the morphology, meaning how much the DNA twists itself, and how much of it is accessible and not accessible to be replicated. So you have genetic potential within you, and some of that could be, you know, greater brain capacity. Some of that could be regenerative abilities within the body, you know. Some of that could be super immunity. There's genetic capacity in the genes within humans that are just turned off or not accessible because it's too tightly wound, and so the RNA can't come in and replicate it, or the or the the epigenetic switches off, saying, don't, don't, you know, work with this one, or don't work with it that way. And sometimes one gene can also be replicated in multiple different ways, and it's upstream. It's in the non coding sections that tell that gene which way to be replicated. So this other section of DNA also works with bio photons. So there's some research that's been done that shows that the DNA is both a transmitter and a receiver of light, like the kind of light that would come out of an LED. You know, it's coherent. It's very particular frequencies within the visible range. It's low amplitude light, but it can be measured. And so the DNA actually is a, they say, is like, almost like an information superhighway that communicates at the speed of light through bio photons. And so that light interacts with our DNA and can inform the DNA, and the more that we are coming like exercising our consciousness, to be in a more relaxed state, a more positive state, a more grateful state, it opens up the expression of the DNA, and you can have more potential emerge and and become available to you from that And but there's, I think there's also a place where, when we can bring our consciousness to a coherent state and direct our own light, or direct the light that we're receiving, you know, from the sun or or, you know, even LED light therapy, and we direct it in to communicate with our DNA in a positive way. There's, there is a consciousness. There is a communication that happens there between our mind and our DNA.

Alex Ferrari 1:34:28
So would, it sounds to me that as we evolve our consciousness, or expand our consciousness as humanity, we're starting to gain access to things that were blocked off to us before? Yeah, I've always said, like, every piece of technology that we have right now is always been here. The raw materials have always been here. We've just figured out how to put the positive piece together. Yeah, right. There wasn't an asteroid that came in and Vibranium showed up, and now we can run everything because of this new technology, this new rock that showed up, it's always been here. So we're, we're. Being allowed, it seems, as a humanity, access to information that we didn't have to before, so that when you, as you were explaining DNA like, oh, that sounds exactly like everything else we're dealing with, we're starting to understand our own DNA. First of all, we found DNA, discovered it, and figured out how to decode it, and was it anytime I hear is like, we broke down the DNA of the human the genome, the genome, the human genome, took a while to figure out, but even then now we're like, yeah, it's about 3% right?

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:35:35
They're like, all that money, and that's only 3%

Alex Ferrari 1:35:38
But that's everything that we can see right now. So there's so much more in there that we're slowly and not that slowly anymore, starting to speed up, getting access to that will open up things in us that we can live longer. You know, what's the caps on the those things that cap are basically our life, our lifeline,

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:35:59
The telomeres

Alex Ferrari 1:36:01
So it seems like there was again. Now we're, I don't want to get into the Annunaki, but that the DNA. It seemed like there's some caps on it, where, if those caps weren't on it, we could live much longer lifespans. Is that a fair statement or not?

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:36:16
Well, I don't know about that. In the anti aging kind of science right now the telomeres. The longer your telomeres are, the more anti aging capacity comes in. Whereas as you age, the telomeres get a bit shorter and shorter because of the replication process. And they kind of almost like a shoelace that starts to fray at the end, right? And that's what then leads to aging. So the telomeres are really important when it comes to longevity,

Alex Ferrari 1:36:43
But you should have them really longer, is what we'd like. Yeah, yeah. So that's so, that's what's so, that's what's happening there. But if, if so, if they were longer, or we have access, or a way to turn them on

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:36:55
Right and like, for example, there's some scalar wave technologies that are coming out that you know, do interact with some of the telomere lengths, and they help keep it more in a in a harmonic kind of state, rather than a frayed state. So the more I think that we can create that harmonic state of being, the more anti aging is there. But the DNA itself contains a lot of information. There's huge amount of information that's contained in there. And scientists are even talking about, well, can we create biological computers based on using the DNA as the computer code, for example? So that even shows that we are a soft technology like there is, I don't necessarily whether we were programmed and you know, to be that way or engineered to be that way. I don't evolve that way or whether we evolve, but it is, it is an intelligently designed system, one way or another. Whether it's spiritually designed or technologically designed, I don't know, but it's intelligent, and it's way more advanced than what we currently understand. And there's huge information that is stored within there. So the more we come to understand about our own blueprint, right, our own DNA, the more we're going to discover about ourselves and our potential, and the more that we can can tap into those other parts of the DNA that we're still just learning to understand what they're doing, the more we're going to really recognize that there is huge potential within us humans that is still yet to be awakened, yet to be tapped into, and it's just about learning how to communicate with those sections of the DNA which actually communicate through coherent light and coherent vibrational fields and consciousness, and they interact with The quantum field as well. So our DNA, literally can, can help shape the quantum field, inform the quantum field, and receive back from the quantum field. So the DNA is really, really important bridge between us and our greater potential.

Alex Ferrari 1:38:53
And will aI have a major part in decoding it? It might, yes, already it's computing much faster.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:38:59
Yeah, yeah. They're already using it to decode, you know, various genes and medicines to, you know, support various things. So yeah, there's, there's going to be a lot more coming with AI.

Alex Ferrari 1:39:10
And there I heard somewhere, I don't know if this is true or not, but there that somewhere in Russia, they're putting together the DNA from mammoths, and they're basically doing Jurassic Park chimaris, yeah, they're taking, they're taking the Indian elephants DNA and filling it with they're taking the mammoths DNA and using the elephants DNA to fit into things that are missing. And they're going to try to basically do Jurassic Park. I mean, yeah,

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:39:38
It's a little bit frightening, right?

Alex Ferrari 1:39:40
It's a bit terrifying when you start going down that road. I mean, did we not learn anything from those movies? So with all of this, you know, with everything you're talking about, with the DNA and the intelligence and all that, where does God, where does source? Where does spirituality fall into all of this? Because I know we're talking about expanding consciousness. But there has to be, what's your what's your vibe on the connection between all of this?

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:40:04
Well, I feel that the signature of God is inside of our DNA. I love some of the work of Greg Braden, for example, where he has shown that when you when we actually look at the atomic signature and the atomic weights of of the elements that are within our DNA. And then you kind of translate that to ancient Hebrew letters. It actually says, you know, it's God made manifest within the body that we, you know, it is the signature of the divine within us. And I think the more we come to know thyself, the more we recognize the Divine is within and and that there is, you know, it's ultimately, I think whatever helps us to come to know ourselves better is going to lead us to the Divine, whereas science right now tends to just try to look at the material perspective of things and the technological perspective. But I think the more we can use science to know thyself, then it will match up more and more with what ancient spiritual philosophy has been telling us for 1000s of years.

Alex Ferrari 1:41:09
Theresa, I could talk to you for another hour too easily. I mean, I look forward to our next conversation, where can people find out more about you and the work you're doing?

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:41:16
They can go to theresabullard.com and also quantumlearningacademy.co

Alex Ferrari 1:41:22
Uh, it's always a pleasure having you. These conversations are so lovely and I love and it's very few people I could have these conversations with from your point of view. So I appreciate you and everything you do to help awaken this planet.

Dr. Theresa Bullard 1:41:33
Thank you. And I always enjoy these conversations. They go in so many different directions, but they're very, very engaging. So thank you, Alex.

Alex Ferrari 1:41:44
Thank you!