Alex Ferrari 0:00
There's going to be something that's going to rock everything again.

Mariko Frederick 0:03
Look at the programming we've had and realize it's a dead end. Awakening happens in a moment. Astral therapy is essentially connecting your consciousness and your awareness of self. This idea that you're not ready, that you're not prepared, that it's not for you, that you're not qualified, is a lie. You want to wake them up, so that they start elevating. Funny, because we say a glimpse at the other side, but you're in infinite time. And then eventually I grabbed one, and I woke up with this astrally projected object in my hand, and it was shaped like kind of a toy,

Alex Ferrari 0:43
As you get in Toys R Us

Mariko Frederick 0:46
In the 80s, totally! Yeah, so...

Alex Ferrari 1:01
I like to welcome back to the show returning champion Mariko Frederick. How you doing Mariko?

Mariko Frederick 1:05
Hi, thanks for having me again.

Alex Ferrari 1:07
Thank you so much for coming. You are, you are such a unique guest for me, and I'll explain to the audience why. When I first met you, you were, you came on as a near death experience, and you know that's how we, we spoke about your near death experience, that you died, you came back, and when you came back, you had, you know, new abilities, things really changed for you, and, and if anybody's interested in seeing that, we'll put the link in the show notes for, you know, for people to go watch that whole conversation about your near death experience, but that was, that was kind of, you know, when I want to have a near death experience, or on, generally, that's that's it, we're good, you know. You did, you told us your story, and I generally don't have near death experiencers back, generally, sometimes I do, but very rarely. But for whatever reason, I always had you stuck in the back of my head, it was the weirdest thing. And then you started telling me about astral therapy, and then we did a session of astral therapy, but when we did that, it was one of the more profound things that's ever happened to me spiritually, and we can, we'll dive into that in a little bit, but I always had you in the.. it just.. it's not like we talked every week or anything like that. I think six months later, or a year later, I just text you and I'm like, "Hey, do you.. this is what we're thinking about. Would you like to do it? And you're like, "Oh, absolutely, let's.. let's rock and roll. And now we've worked on a course together, we're working on a series together for Next Level Soul TV as well, and you flew down here to Next Level Soul Studios to do all the shooting and stuff, so it's just you're a very unique person in, in the scope of what we do at Next Level Soul, because it's, it's rare, it just doesn't happen very often. So you are an amazing, you have an amazing energy to you, and you're absolutely wonderful. So, thank you for being here.

Mariko Frederick 2:57
Oh my gosh, thank you for having me. It's been so fun since we first met, and the journey that we've had over the past couple years. I've had, I've had so much fun, and yeah, I think the near-death experience for me, it's like the tip of the iceberg, you know? It's what people kind of like get introduced to me, the story that they find out about, but for me, in my personal life, you know, that was like, I mean, not to downplay it, but for me it was kind of a blip. I mean, not physically, it was really hard to overcome that. Physically, that was not a fun 10 years afterwards, but you know, spiritually, and like with what I'm here to do, and with what I want to share with people, yeah, it was sort of the tip of the iceberg. So I'm grateful to get to come back and to share more, both in the course and everything that we're doing with everybody,

Alex Ferrari 3:41
So when you came back, what did you come back with, right? Abilities wise, and what opened up in you, because that really kind of leans us into,

Mariko Frederick 3:53
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 3:53
The rest of the conversation.

Mariko Frederick 3:54
Yeah, so I think probably with a lot of people who, who have NDEs, we come back with a little bit of the other side, like we don't come back the same,

Alex Ferrari 4:01
Not like a horror story.

Mariko Frederick 4:02
No,

Alex Ferrari 4:03
Like a horror movie, like all of a sudden, like I brought something back, like Pet Cemetery. That's exactly what it is. This is Stephen King Pet Cemetery.

Mariko Frederick 4:11
No, it wasn't. No, thank God it was not like that. Don't break that up. Maybe a Halloween episode, I don't know.

Alex Ferrari 4:19
Back with me.

Mariko Frederick 4:23
No, no, I get scared easy. Okay, no, not like that. You bring back the bliss. It's like you come back with this imprint of the other side with you. You come back like you come back almost like you've been reformatted with

Alex Ferrari 4:43
Upgraded

Mariko Frederick 4:43
Infinity,

Alex Ferrari 4:44
Yeah,

Mariko Frederick 4:44
And with a knowledge of it, but not in like an ego, look what I know, but more of like, oh, this is who we all are, I'm no different,

Alex Ferrari 4:51
I just had to die for this to open up, right, like

Mariko Frederick 4:54
I had to die for like a second, or a little longer than that, like, and I'm always joking with people, like, it would be amazing if everyone could just die for a second. In, because we would all have this understanding of the infinite and infinite love, and everybody would kind of stop fighting and arguing about anything, because it doesn't matter, but you come back, not with just like the knowledge mentally, but it's like an energetic, you're changed, your frequency is completely different, and then it's like you have, gosh, it's hard to explain, but it's like you have the library of truth with you, in you, in your heart, and with all that there is to know and learn, it's just simply love, infinite love, and I think that's what I came back with, that's what everybody I probably comes back with is not just an understanding, but that you embody that you are love. We are all love.

Alex Ferrari 5:50
You've been given the information, that knowledge, if you will. You, you've taken the bite of the apple in a way of the tree of knowledge, because you are seeing the truth now. Where this is not truth, this is an illusion. This is Maya. This is a dream, essentially. This is the matrix.

Mariko Frederick 6:12
It's totally the matrix,

Alex Ferrari 6:14
And we are Neo. No, but then you got a glimpse of the other side, and once you get a glimpse of the other side, you can't take that back. You can't unlearn it.

Mariko Frederick 6:23
No, I mean, it's funny because we say a glimpse of the other side, but you're in infinite time, so it's not even a glimpse, you know? When I died, I remember they were telling me to come back, and I was like, "Go back and be who? Like, I've been here, people have asked, like, how long does it feel, and I'm like, it's infinite. There's not a. but I'm like 800 years, I don't know, because there's not right, right, but it's kind of the same, like it felt like hundreds of years, and by the time they told me to go back, I was like, do what, go where, be who, and it was, it was not fun coming back, it was kind of devastating, because now I have to go back into illusion and go figure out how to be this person, Mariko was not easy,

Alex Ferrari 7:01
Right. So, yeah, let me, let's dive into that for a second, because when people do come back from, when people come back from the dead, and it just sounds weird when you say it like that, but when people have a near-death experience and they come back, there is an acclimation period of how do I deal with this world now with this new information, and then also be this person now that I am, like the old version of you is is gone. Stay dead, it's gone. There's a beautiful movie, which I hope one day I can get on the platform. It's an older movie from the 90s called Regarding, regarding Henry. Do you remember that movie with Harrison Ford?

Mariko Frederick 7:42
I know the movie, I can't remember, you know, I don't remember everything.

Alex Ferrari 7:45
It was Harrison Ford, Annette Bening, I think. Yeah, I think JJ Abrams wrote it. He might have directed my share, but it was about he was an a hole lawyer, Harrison Ford, and he was just a mean, mean person. Then has an accident, has a brain injury. When he wakes up, he's the sweetest human being on the planet, and he has to figure out how to re-acclimate to his world, where everybody had disdain for him. He was a very powerful lawyer, but his family, his colleagues, they don't know how to deal with them, and he has to try to deal, so I imagine that's kind of what it's like coming back from a near death experience.

Mariko Frederick 8:27
I think, so yeah. And then you have this, so yeah, it's almost like you're like, okay, I'm back in this pretend world, but everyone thinks it's real, so I don't want to like mess with them,

Alex Ferrari 8:38
Because they get angry.

Mariko Frederick 8:39
Some people,

Alex Ferrari 8:40
Oh yeah,

Mariko Frederick 8:41
Or some people have a lot of questions, and honestly, I wasn't ready to talk about it. It took me almost 20 years to talk about it. And

Alex Ferrari 8:48
How old were you?

Mariko Frederick 8:49
I was 29

Alex Ferrari 8:51
Okay,

Mariko Frederick 8:51
So it took, I don't know, what it took, 1817, years for me to start getting comfortable, something like that, you know. And it's so sacred, it's almost like you, for me, I didn't want to talk about it. There's no human words to talk about it with, so even when we say the words like bliss, infinite love, it's like, you know, kind of falls short of what that experience truly is. And I think it's important that it's not an experience, it's you, it's that was not me experiencing something, that was me experiencing me, me experiencing the soul, a unit of God's consciousness, and that's what we all are. And then we come back to this world where people are very human and worried about stuff that you're like, gosh, that doesn't matter, and you just want to like share that

Alex Ferrari 9:44
It just doesn't,

Mariko Frederick 9:45
It doesn't matter, what matters is that they're getting out of alignment with their soul and getting in their minds or ego or whatever, and arguing about stuff or worrying about stuff, and that's like that's the hard part when you come back. With so much of the frequency of truth, the frequency of infinite love, how do you then, and what do you do to communicate that when nobody there speaks the language of infinity, and then they send you back with an assignment on your soul, and I'm like, I don't need. First of all, I can't - I'm sick, so I can't like get up and do anything. And second of all, How do I even communicate this? How do I explain the realms? How do I explain that this isn't the only place? How do I explain that you are all basically essentially a unit of God's consciousness, that we are all one? Yeah, we hear that, but like, really feel it and experience it. And I think the weight of that, I'll say, blessing, but also not 29 It was a responsibility. It was a lot. I was completely..

Alex Ferrari 10:56
You're figuring it out still at 29

Mariko Frederick 10:58
Yeah, I have no idea.

Alex Ferrari 10:59
Yeah,

Mariko Frederick 10:59
I have no idea what's going on. And then now I'm supposed to do this thing.

Alex Ferrari 11:02
You had no idea what's going on prior to dying, right?

Mariko Frederick 11:05
I mean, no offense to people who are 29 but you know

Alex Ferrari 11:09
You're trying to figure it out.

Mariko Frederick 11:10
Yeah, I mean, even people who are old souls and all the things, and yeah, we are, but we've only been here 29 years, so there's still a lot of figuring out to do.

Alex Ferrari 11:17
Yeah, there's. it's. it's kind of fascinating, to you know, sometimes I speak to ascended masters on the show, as one does regular Tuesday, is Jesus coming, Buddha's coming, great, I've had Bud on the show in forever, but when you speak to these ascended masters, a question I always ask him was, like, what is it like? What was it like being here at the time when humanity's consciousness couldn't even grasp the basic understanding of the kingdom of heaven is within you, something everything I can do, you can do, and more very basic teachings that were revolutionary to the point where he was speaking of Yeshua, where eventually they're like, yeah, we can't have this guy around anymore, let's take care of this situation, and they, and they got rid of them, and that happens to a lot of these masters, but walking around with the knowledge at a very high level, I mean, we're talking about mastery level, and you're basically talking another language, something they can't even - only a handful of followers, and even their followers are like the apostles, are still, they were still trying to figure it out, you know, some of them messed up a few times along the way, but it was very, it was very difficult, so I could only imagine for someone like yourself coming back, not that you're an ascended master,

Mariko Frederick 12:45
Right! Well, that's the problem. I'm not, so then I'm just like I'm just a regular person. What do I do with this?

Alex Ferrari 12:50
Yeah, you've been given a glimpse. Yeah, you've been given a glimpse of the other side, and you've also been, you've brought back a glimpse, not pet cemetery style, but you brought back a glimpse. No, no, no, you don't want the creepy kid in the photo or that cat, but you've come back with a bit of that spark,

Mariko Frederick 13:10
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 13:11
Of the other side, and you, you are aware of what the truth is, and that's what happens with people when they awaken, that's what's happening around the world right now, people are awakening more and more and more and more, consciousness is rising, but then to speak to your family, to speak to your friends, to try to deal with colleagues or careers, and it's, it's so difficult to kind of navigate your life in that world, and I know you've had challenges,

Mariko Frederick 13:37
I have, yeah, now I'm used to it, and I, you know, if I talk to somebody that I knew 30 years ago who only remembers me from that time, it's like I kind of sweetly joke that it's like talking to my echo, it's who I used to be, and I'm totally good with it now. You know, we could talk about whatever, it's not who I am right now, because it's not just bringing back a glimpse, it's bringing back a piece of the frequency, and then embodying the frequency, and then taking, for me, you know, years and years to figure out how to, how to share it with people in a way that's not just words, in a way that helps humanity with their frequency, because me just sharing a story is interesting to some, fun, entertaining, but not changing anything. And what I knew, what I came back with was an assignment to help shift something

Alex Ferrari 14:37
Within people,

Mariko Frederick 14:37
Within people, but it's not like they gave me an instruction manual that I could read with, like, you know, a list of, like, here are the 10 things you're doing. The Ascended Masters just shifted my frequency, like, like I've said, it's like having, giving a box, and I couldn't open it, and I don't know what's in it, and then gotta use it, right? Like, good luck,

Alex Ferrari 14:59
You know what this. Reminds me of I'm gonna, I'm gonna kick it back to the 80s. There was a show called The Greatest American Hero.

Mariko Frederick 15:04
Oh my gosh, I love that show.

Alex Ferrari 15:06
And that he got a super suit without the instruction manual, and he just bums around. He can barely fly, but he's super, he's super strong, but he doesn't know what his own strength. He has no idea what the suit does. The aliens gave him this suit, and that's kind of what happened to you? You're the greatest

Mariko Frederick 15:23
Bumbler,

Alex Ferrari 15:25
Because you're bumbling around, like you've given me these, these pop, but what do I do? How do I use them? How do I help people,

Mariko Frederick 15:31
Right!

Alex Ferrari 15:32
Because that's it's kind of like a joke.

Mariko Frederick 15:35
Come back, I'm like, seriously,

Alex Ferrari 15:37
It's a cosmic joke that they play on you.

Mariko Frederick 15:41
It was, and I'm authentically, you know, I'm a goofball, so I am that anyways. And then I've got this thing I'm supposed to do. And then what I didn't know, because nobody was telling me who was there to tell me, was it's not about doing anything, it's about being. So I had to take the years to say, okay, this did happen. It's okay that it happened to you. It's okay that you might know something. You don't have to be ashamed of it. You don't have to feel imposter syndrome around it, which was a huge thing for me, right? Like, shouldn't Deepak be doing this? Like, am I even qualified for this?

Alex Ferrari 16:18
Oh, don't you know? You kidding me? Like, I'm like a spiritual show. I still look around Hollywood. I'm like, I'm looking around, going, this is this, how is this even a thing? I understand it, but apparently you know the story. Everyone knows the story, or that I was told to do it by my spiritual teacher, and I'm like, you're insane, and blah blah blah. And four years later, we have a million followers, and it's like, what is what?

Mariko Frederick 16:46
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 16:46
Like, how is this a thing? So I get you, I completely under talk about imposter syndrome. There should be someone else doing this,

Mariko Frederick 16:52
And you had to go in four years. Like, I've been doing this for a long time. I had decades.

Alex Ferrari 16:57
Oh yeah, it's been truncated, no question. I've yeah, it's been a wild ride, and it's getting wilder.

Mariko Frederick 17:04
It is, it's gonna get even wilder. So,

Alex Ferrari 17:06
You have told me things, so

Mariko Frederick 17:08
Things are things are like, hang on to your seat here. So, yeah, it's it's a lot when you're here to do. I don't like the word do, because people want to, like, what do I do? Nothing, that's a thing. There's nothing to do. You be the person who can do the thing for you? Your spiritual teacher was like, 'Ha, this is what you're going to do. And I remember you were like, 'No thanks, I can't do that. And, but you've become the person who can do it. You said yes to what you're meant to do, and now things are growing, and that's really the first thing to do when you feel like you're here to do something more, when you have an assignment on your soul, whatever that is, you don't do anything, you sit with it, and you become the vibration, you become the frequency, you say yes, even if it's like a little whisper that's like, oh my gosh, okay,

Alex Ferrari 17:53
Open that business, write that book, you know, leave that job, yes, other thing,

Mariko Frederick 17:58
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 17:59
You know, those little whispers, which eventually turn into a sledgehammer, by the way. It starts as a tap, a little whisper, little nudge, and then eventually the sledgehammer comes. Yeah, like you're fired from your job, forced, you know, or something happens in a relationship, and now you, you have to leave, yeah, you know, kind of thing. It's, I've learned a long time ago to just listen,

Mariko Frederick 18:23
Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 18:24
Because if not, it just, it doesn't end well for you, because you're going to go there anyway, because that's what you've, you've, you've made that agreement with your soul. Your soul made that agreement, like you're gonna come down, your soul made an agreement, like, yeah, about when you're 29 you're, I'm gonna die, and I'm gonna need that to set me on my path of what I'm gonna do. It's not gonna be easy, it's not gonna be fun, but this is the way I'm gonna do it. And that's that was the plan. Is that, am I correct?

Mariko Frederick 18:51
Exactly.

Alex Ferrari 18:52
Yeah, yeah.

Mariko Frederick 18:52
I mean, I resisted, you know, a little bit more than what you, but yeah,

Alex Ferrari 18:56
I resisted you know, a lot of people don't know I stopped the show.

Mariko Frederick 19:01
Oh, wow.

Alex Ferrari 19:01
I started it April, April 20-first, I think, or Easter of 2020-one By the end of the year, I was.. I stopped, and everyone knows how fast.. how much content I put out every week. I was doing one every month.

Mariko Frederick 19:16
Oh, wow,

Alex Ferrari 19:16
That's how bad. I was just like scared, terrified.

Mariko Frederick 19:19
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 19:20
Impostor syndrome,

Mariko Frederick 19:21
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 19:21
Until I got a kick in the butt by, uh, by Connie, my teacher, and then I went all in, but it was a big leap of faith, and I've been taking a lot of those lately, yeah, it's a lot of that, but, but the, but the goal is still the same, is to help people, and that's what kind of keeps you going, and the effect that these kind of things that we're doing, you and I both in our own ways, are helping people around the world. You know, this conversation is going to be listened to by a bunch of people.

Mariko Frederick 19:51
Yeah, and we're here for a blip, like we're here for.. I always joke that it's like a.. it's like running to 711 it's like an errand, our soul, it's so fast.

Alex Ferrari 20:00
Did you hear Jordan Peterson wrote it, said something so profound the other day. I saw it somewhere on social media, where he's like, when you die, your, let's say you die tomorrow, your wife and your kids, let's say you still have a wife, your wife and your kids will prepare the funeral, and they'll prepare the, the wake, all that stuff, and a day after it's done, they'll, they'll maybe laugh about some things you did in the past, and a month later you'll be a faded memory, and a year later, and that just starts, and then you start to realize, does it, you know, once your kids are gone, who's gonna remember? Like, if you're lucky, you're remembered in 100 years, if you're lucky, but most don't, you know, and it's okay,

Mariko Frederick 20:58
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 20:59
You're here for a moment,

Mariko Frederick 21:00
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 21:01
For a moment in 1000 year. How many people from ancient Rome do we remember?

Mariko Frederick 21:07
Right!

Alex Ferrari 21:07
I mean, really,

Mariko Frederick 21:08
Like a few

Alex Ferrari 21:09
Of a handful, right? Unless you're a historian,

Mariko Frederick 21:11
Right!

Alex Ferrari 21:12
And even then we're talking about kings and emperors that you remember. How about the millions and millions and millions of people that lived in Rome,

Mariko Frederick 21:21
Right

Alex Ferrari 21:22
In the Roman Empire.

Mariko Frederick 21:23
No clue,

Alex Ferrari 21:24
You know, Egypt, you know, it doesn't. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter that you're here for the moments that you're here. Use that time wisely. And I think, as we, we've both gotten older, you start to realize, like, oh, I think I'm closer to that than I was

Mariko Frederick 21:43
Halfway done, like we got,

Alex Ferrari 21:45
I think I don't, where am I in this road? Like, am I, did I pass the halfway point already? Like, I don't. Holy crap, I know you know I'm like farther away from when I was born than I'm closer to when this journey is going to be over, and you start to think about things in a very different way.

Mariko Frederick 22:02
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 22:02
So now it's, and even then it's not easy. You're still trying to figure it out, because you got to deal stuff every day, every day. Now, I want to talk to you about our session. Now, this is something I've never spoken about publicly before, and I'm going.. I want.. I was kind of saving this for when we spoke, you told me when we first, first did our interview, you're like, 'Hey, I'd love to give you a therapy session, and I get offered stuff all the time by guests and people who want to be on the show. 'Hey, I'll give you a free reading, or 'I'll give you free that. I'm like, 'Oh, sure, why not? Sometimes I do it. Sometimes I'm like, I'm good, thanks. I don't chase the psychic. I literally have a rolodex full of some of the greatest psychic mediums and channels in the world, and I never - I never call - I rarely, if ever, call anybody going, "What's gonna happen? Like, it's not something I do anymore. But when you recommended, you're like, "I could do astral therapy. I'm like, "What the hell, that's intriguing. What's astrotherapy? Can you explain to people what astrotherapy is? Because it's something that you've brought back.

Mariko Frederick 23:05
Yeah, it's something I guess I did. I brought it back, and I.. well, I don't know if I brought it back so much as I've always had it. So you know my story. Well, I didn't remember, like I forgot, but I stayed conscious between lifetimes, and I thought everybody did until I was a teenager, and then I found out we didn't. I was like, oh geez. So I've always remembered being in the other realms, being in the higher realms before I was born. I remember who I was in my last life, and for me it's one long memory, just like the past year is one long memory. So I remember it, but not in that I forgot, and I'm like recalling it through Akashic Records or something. I just remember it all, and so when I was young, especially when I was a baby, I would go into the higher realms, I'd go into the causal realm, and then I'd come back and be in my body, and so I was always traveling into the higher realms, and then as I got older in grammar school, I would go into the astral realm, and when I was, I was going, I had some abuse happen, and to escape the abuse, I would go into the higher realms and hang out there, and so I've just done that my whole life, and I didn't know that not everybody did. I remember specifically thinking that talking about it was taboo, and that we weren't allowed to talk about certain things, like when I was little, I was in preschool, and I remember, I think we talked about this on, I'm not sure what show I talked about this on, but I see lights when I turn off the lights at night, to me there's like millions of little lights, when I was younger, there were bigger lights, and they were different colors sometimes, and I remember seeing them floating by, and I kept reaching out, like I can get one of those, because no one told me I couldn't, so I was reaching and reaching, I kind of like go right through the air, and then eventually I grabbed one, and I woke up with this astrally projected object in my hand, and it was shaped like kind of a toy, it was a, it was a animal head with a, with a human, long human body, and

Alex Ferrari 24:59
As you get in Toys R Us

Mariko Frederick 25:02
In the 80s, totally, yeah, so

Alex Ferrari 25:05
Is that a Thundercat?

Mariko Frederick 25:12
So I, so my, so the adults around me were like, where did you get that? Where did you think I stole it from Toys R Us.

Alex Ferrari 25:26
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Mariko Frederick 25:47
You know, as kids kind of sometimes grab stuff. We have kids, like, they're like, 'Oh, like, have we paid for that?

Alex Ferrari 25:56
My mom asked me to go pick up something in the supermarket. I was like, fine, yeah, they're gonna think you're stealing the yogurt. I'm like, what? I'm just carrying

Mariko Frederick 26:06
Right, we're following instructions. So I realized that it was like a bad thing, so I put it in the cookie jar and would check on it every every once in a while, and it was there until it wasn't, and it just disappeared. So, but in that moment I got kind of afraid of myself, like I wasn't supposed to do that, and they think I'm lying, because they're like, "You get it? I'm like, "Like, bedtime is amazing, right? I don't know why we don't talk about this. I must have been the easiest kid to put down, like, "bed time's

Alex Ferrari 26:38
Giving lights. What did you get last night? What are we not talking about this? This is amazing.

Mariko Frederick 26:45
I used to think that, like, I get so excited and just think, like, my parents must be having so much fun. My sister, like, oh my gosh, what are they getting? Where are they going? Apparently not, or they were, and they just don't remember astral traveling. You know, that could happen too. Dreams, so because we don't trust ourselves, so I come. I just stopped talking about it, and then I got sort of the, the next layer of that as a teen, and he was 18 or 19, I can't remember when, when someone told me that people don't remember those kind of things, and I was like, oh my gosh, I shouldn't talk about it. So, when I died and came back, I knew in my heart and soul that I was meant to, but I was also like, I will share all kinds of things, but not that one. So it was a, it was a journey of discovering that, or more giving myself permission, that it's okay, I'm here for a second, it's not a big deal, and I'm going to do what I'm here to do. And then, as we get older, we really start caring less about others' opinions, magical,

Alex Ferrari 27:42
As, as the 80 year old without his shirt on, gets out in the middle of the morning to go get his paper, because he still gets a paper, and he's just like, "How you doing? and just like, does not

Mariko Frederick 27:53
Love it,

Alex Ferrari 27:53
Care in the least, no, no, it's as older you get, the less F's you give,

Mariko Frederick 27:59
And I think that's also why it took us so long, because we had to get through that,

Alex Ferrari 28:03
Because as you get older, you just start to realize it. How it's like things that you worried about in your 20s or 30s or 40s, you start to like, oh my god, things that remember high school, anything. We both have kids,

Mariko Frederick 28:17
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 28:18
So both of us have about similar age kids. My god, everything is like, oh my god, don't say that. Oh my god, don't do that. Oh my god, you're embarrassing me. Oh my god, oh my god, all this crap. And you're like, you're not gonna know these kids in five years. You think you're gonna be besties with it? Like, sure, maybe,

Mariko Frederick 28:35
Yeah, maybe,

Alex Ferrari 28:36
But that's rare. Like, so just enjoy your life. If they're your true friends, they won't care.

Mariko Frederick 28:42
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 28:42
Enjoy yourself. So, it's fat, but as you get older, you start to just really not care, especially if you've died and come back. Then you really don't

Mariko Frederick 28:52
Sort of, but also I did. I was afraid of different things, afraid of different things, but like what people think of me, and the things I'm like, whatever, like, it doesn't matter, you know? I mean, I've already died, so the idea of like getting fit and looking my best, I'm like, I'm happy to be walking and talking. So, perspective, your.. my perspective changed real quick.

Alex Ferrari 29:12
So, what is astral therapy?

Mariko Frederick 29:13
So, astral therapy is what I was doing when I was little, what I've always done. It's going into the higher realms. Only I figured out that instead of me going and getting the answers and telling people in a session or whatever I'm doing, why not come with me? Like, wouldn't that be more fun? So I developed astral therapy as a way for me to bring people into the highest realm that they've been incarnating in, or at the very least, the astral realm, which is where most people go after we die, a realm of light and vibration. Yeah, actually, there's, there's, there's other emotions there too.

Alex Ferrari 29:49
Oh, yeah,

Mariko Frederick 29:50
Yeah, it's not always fun. So, I bring people, at the very least, to the astral world, where they can experience a little more of the truth of who they are. And for what I call higher realm beings, I like to take them to the highest realm that they've ever incarnated in and are accustomed to, to get re-acclimated to their truth as a higher realm being, so that they can stop acting so human, get to work, do whatever they're here to do, write the book, write the song, put out the podcast, speak on stage, whatever the thing is. Invite inventory restaurant. Yeah, yeah, it could be new tech, it could be anything. It doesn't have to be spiritual, but whatever you're here to do, the higher realm being that you are is ready. The human is the one waiting and figuring it out and having imposter syndrome, but your higher realm being the truth of who you truly are. That part has the whole blueprint, is ready to go, has a plan, knows what to do, and so I just find it faster and more efficient, because again, we're halfway done here. I don't have a lot of time to get, I don't have a lot of patience either. Sometimes,

Alex Ferrari 30:59
Sure,

Mariko Frederick 31:00
We talked about parenting earlier, that was funny. So, I figure it's efficient to say, "Why don't you like, I'll bring you up to the higher realms, go experience who you are. Let's go chit-chat with your higher realm guides, your intergalactic team, your angelic realm team, your dragon team, whoever that is. You go get the downloads and the codes from them, because now this isn't secondhand, it's not coming through me, and then they download, so that you get the experience too, because I think, well, it's more powerful as an individual to have the frequency, like I said, I came back with a new frequency, it wasn't just knowledge and experience, so if everybody can like go up with me to go get the new frequency, the new light codes, whatever you want to call them, and come back down, and then get your butt to work, because the world literally needs these people to wake up and start moving in a higher,

Alex Ferrari 31:54
So we can move frequently, so we can wake everybody up,

Mariko Frederick 31:56
Right, because otherwise the lower realm beings, and they're here too, are having a great time wreaking havoc on this world with all the.. I'm not gonna name all of it, but all the really bad things we see happening,

Alex Ferrari 32:09
The wars, the politics,

Mariko Frederick 32:10
Yeah, the trafficking, it's terrible, it's all the people that are like lower realm and earth is a sea average,

Alex Ferrari 32:17
So the lower realm are these just lost souls?

Mariko Frederick 32:20
You know, here's the thing, we're all one.

Alex Ferrari 32:22
Yeah, exactly.

Mariko Frederick 32:23
So, is anyone really lost, or we just playing our role? So, I think of it as like a person, and if you're a being, and we're all one, and we're one being, some people are at the level of the eyes and the nose and the ears, and some people are at the level of the knees and the toes. So, the lower realm beings are at the level of the knees, the toes, the ankles, the higher realm beings, the eyebrows, the ears, but we don't want to cut the lower realm beings off, because we need our ankles and toes, we want that we're all one, most people are in the middle because we're a sea average planet, but even the people in the middle are moving up, and the people in the lower realms we're all ascending, but the more the higher realm beings start to wake up and get to work and ascend, we shift everybody up, and that's why I'm just trying to get more efficient and get the people who are maybe no one listens to your show who's average, but the masses, you want to wake them up so they start elevating, because that also brings up the lower realm beings and the higher realm beings who are sitting here having imposter syndrome, around, like, oh gosh, you know, enlightenment is only for Buddha, enlightenments only. I'm like, oh good Lord, please no, it's not, it's for you. He did say you can do everything, you don't have to do the wine thing, he did, you know, but he was a millennial, so good for him. You don't have to walk on water, but you can radiate the truth of your soul, which is simply love. You can do that. It's not hard, and it's not only for Buddha and Christ and Krishna.

Alex Ferrari 34:00
Yeah, exactly at all. So, when we, so when we went into our session, what I find fascinating is, you know, I was skeptical. I'm a very skeptical guy, as a general statement. I, I'm very open, and I accept a lot of things, and, like, if you're channeling, cool. I do, I know if it's, if it's a alien being coming, if it's the Palladians, is it really an ascended man? I don't know, but I can feel energy, and I can also hear what they're saying. So, if what they're saying is something really profound and helping people, I don't care how it gets here, it's up to the.. it's fine. So, I'm a skeptical person, I'm pretty grounded for the most part, but I am very accepting of a lot of weird ideas, but I'm always questioning things. So, like, when we went into our session, I'm like, as we're starting to go through, and we're going to go, and we're going to go into some detail about it, but as we're going through it, I'm like, am I making this up? Am I just making.. I'm like, am I making this up? You know, I've done a past life week. Question, I've done two astro therapies with you as of today, and the first we're talking about the first one, the second one not so much, but the first one we'll discuss a little bit, but as we're going through it, I'm thinking, am I just as she's guiding me, am I just making stuff up, but then things start showing up in the brain that I'm like, I can't even make this stuff up, like I just.. it wouldn't occur to me to make up what I'm seeing. So, if these images start coming in, and I think what's interesting, and I think this happens with psychics, with mediums, and with channelers, is to allow yourself the ability to just accept whatever comes in and not question it, which is what we do, the ego mind, or the, the, the other side of the brain, analytical minds trying to break this down, trying to wrap their head around, right, its head around it, but there's nothing to wrap. So, as we were going through it, what, what I found fascinating, and then we'll go through the details of it, but what I found fascinating is, you were telling me what I was seeing

Mariko Frederick 36:01
At the same time,

Alex Ferrari 36:01
Right, and at that point I'm like, oh, we're in a different journey, right? We left Kansas a long time ago, so you were telling me, yeah, so you're seeing this now, I'm like, son of a seat, like, how do you know what's in my head? Like, okay, we're going here, we're doing that, we're doing that. What was really interesting. Well, we'll get to that part. It was so much stuff that was happening in that one. So we go in. Can you explain to people what the process is, and obviously the course that we're going to be talking, that we're that we'll talk a little bit about later, but the one that we've recorded for Mastery for Next Level Soul Mastery is how to do astral therapy for yourself, essentially, but can you explain the basic concept of astrotherapy and what, like, typical session is, without going into great detail as far as exact mechanics?

Mariko Frederick 36:56
Well, because everyone's different, right? Everyone's going to have a different experience, and I think the important thing is what you touched on, which is trusting yourself, you know, people, and I had trouble too, after my near death, I was like, did that happen, yes, it happened, but even understanding that this happened, I still had doubts, and so I think the greatest issue that most of humanity is having right now is they don't trust themselves, because if we could trust our intuition, we'd have a whole different world.

Alex Ferrari 37:25
Amen.

Mariko Frederick 37:26
You know, and we don't. So part of it's giving yourself permission to trust yourself that you are a higher realm being, that you have been incarnating on higher realms, that you're not from here. And for those, it's easy to go right. I'm just connecting with my astral body, which is always here. We all understand we have an energy body. It's not just the chakra system and the aura. There's a lot more going on, especially if you're from a different realm. You've got a whole different energy system from that realm. A lot of people, so astral therapy is essentially connecting your consciousness and your awareness of self, not necessarily physical body. You stay in your physical body. For me, astral travel is not this phenomenon of I left my body and I don't feel myself anymore. No. Well, you're welcome to stay grounded in your body and be connected to your astral body, your astral self, your soul, if you will. And then from there we go into I open up portals and we go through into the astral realm. From there we can go forward in time, we can go backwards in time, find timelines wherever we're going, heal things, clear things, get very clear with you, obviously shocker, into a lot of different dimensions.

Alex Ferrari 38:45
Yeah, it was that when we were going through our first session, you went to a place like, I've never gone this high. Where are we? We're going to a really high level here. I'm like, all right, let's.. it's fascinating, because for me I'm like, all right, cool, let's.. I have no idea what's happening, but we went to different, really, really.. we'll talk about that highest level in a minute, but all right, so let's.. let's get into this, like I said, I'd never spoken about this publicly on the show before, and I just think it's interesting, and it's something that hopefully will help people, so we start our session, and you tell me, okay, Who do you want to guide you, and the first person that shows up is a shocker, Yogananda shows up, and I'm like, oh, hi, how you doing, Paramahansa, and he's like, How you doing, let's, and he's the one that's guiding me through this whole process, and we start opening, you're like, okay, we're gonna open a portal, and in the back of my head I'm going, there's some crazy stuff going on right here. Oh, absolutely. I was like, I'm like, okay, I obviously Yogananda, it's not like Krishna showed up, like no, Yogananda showed up, because I have a deep connection with Yogananda, so he showed up, and I'm like, I'm making, I'm literally in my mind, I'm like. Making this up, this is all right. Let's just go for it. Let's just go on the ride. Let's see what happens. But you're like, okay, so Yogananda opens up a portal, and we go into this first, I guess, parallel reality.

Mariko Frederick 40:11
Yeah, for you it was a, it was an alternate dimension in a parallel

Alex Ferrari 40:14
Version,

Mariko Frederick 40:15
Version, yeah.

Alex Ferrari 40:16
And there I was, I saw a basically a dystopia, like a basically a bombed out reality, like it was war torn, everything, and I saw a young version of myself sitting on a rock crying, and he was a, I guess he was a young man, he must have been in his teens, and I'm like, again, I'm pretty creative. I don't even like, I'm like, at this point I'm starting to get away from this is crazy to like, what the hell is happening, which then gets even weirder, as it does get much weirder, it gets a lot weirder as we go forward to it. So then I'm sitting there, and it's almost like it's, it's a weird experience, because it's not real time, it's not like you're watching a movie, it's images that are kind of like sent in different sequences. So I see that first, I do look around and I can see things,

Mariko Frederick 41:15
It's like a B roll clip.

Alex Ferrari 41:16
Yeah, like a bunch of different things. Yogananda is hanging out, he didn't say much, he didn't say he was just hanging out, and all of a sudden he's, you could see he's crying, but he's really angry about what has happened to his planet, his reality. And then I remember him bursting out in, like, almost a Japanese anime. I said that to you. It's a Japanese anime motion that he's yelling out, and he just jumps up, and he's like frozen in the air, like so angry. And I'm just like, what is happening? I haven't taken anything. Can we imagine if I took action to me? So I was like, this is really weird, she's like, okay, let's go to the next one. So then I leave the portal, I'm in this in between worlds, like this kind of, like, for me it was almost like contact, the movie Contact, like when she's going in between worlds, it seemed like that, but a lot less aggressive than it was in the movie. So I'm sitting there, and then another, and then Yogananda opens up another portable, and I walk in through that one, and then that one. Let me see if I remember correctly. It was that one. Then we went into.. oh, yes, this was weird. So this is the war plan.

Mariko Frederick 42:35
Yeah, that was weird.

Alex Ferrari 42:36
That was really weird.

Mariko Frederick 42:37
That should be a movie.

Alex Ferrari 42:38
That is. I'll make one. All of a sudden, I see a battlefield, and it's.. and it's me in one of these.. I'd say it's kind of like one of these walkers from Avatar and from Alien. If you remember Aliens, the walker that she's walking around with, like she beats up the queen alien or avatar, those things that the guy, the men jump into the fight, the avatars. I was in something like that, but I was surrounded by, and I forget the term of it, when a circle is circling another circle, and another circle,

Mariko Frederick 43:13
And because it was bigger,

Alex Ferrari 43:14
Yeah, it was, it was around, you were in it, and that's, I guess, the protection of it, but I forgot what that gimbal, I forgot what it's called, but it's like all this kind of stuff, and then the creatures we were fighting were like giant headless gorillas, monsters, but they had no heads, and they just like were just making a just crazy, and there's a bunch of us fighting this all up, and it's very dark world, and I'm sitting there just watching it, going, what is happening, and you're telling me, you're like, oh, what is happening, I'm not telling you this stuff, and you're like, oh god, what do those things look like, and I'm like, how did you get out of my head, Mariko

Mariko Frederick 43:53
Big too, they were huge, oh

Alex Ferrari 43:56
No, we're talking about, you know, 34 huge, yeah, high monster,

Mariko Frederick 44:01
I mean, the thing you were in was big too, yeah, but it was, it was smaller than the thing, the creatures.

Alex Ferrari 44:05
It almost felt like Pacific Rim, where, like, I'm fighting, fighting these giant, yeah, giant alien monsters,

Mariko Frederick 44:12
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 44:12
Crazy. So then all of a sudden, in the middle of that battle, I kind of transcend in the machine, I turn, I start to glow white, and I start to levitate outside of it, and I'm like almost ascending, like an ascended master, if you will, angel-like almost, and I just start glowing white light, and these things freak the hell out and start just scattering everywhere, and I'm like, I'm watching all of this, I'm like, I'm not making this up, you're telling me this is happening,

Mariko Frederick 44:51
As you're seeing, is

Alex Ferrari 44:53
As I'm seeing it, like, oh, now you're looking out of my head, really strange, it's very, very strange, and I'm like, What. Is happening right now that this is crazy, and then, and we'll do a download afterwards. What you and I do, you do a download afterwards, and kind of like a recap and explain what's happening, because I don't know what's happening. So then you're like, okay, it's time to go. I'm like, I think it is. So

Mariko Frederick 45:15
Wait, do you remember when that version of you stopped and looked at us?

Alex Ferrari 45:19
No! I forgot.

Mariko Frederick 45:20
Okay, so there's a point where we're about to go, and he stops and looks at you, and is basically like, I'm holding this realm. Could you go get to work in your little cush life over there? Essentially, that's what he was saying. Oh my gosh, he is aware you, the alternate you, was aware that we were there. He's fighting this war and going like in this realm, what are you second guessing with your hat, and you have this more cush like we all do, because other versions of us are fighting other battles.

Alex Ferrari 45:52
That's a really powerful idea, that there's well, obviously the concept of a multiverse been around for 1000s of years, the Vedic talked about the multiverse, all of that stuff, that there are multiple versions of ourselves in this lifetime, but in different versions of ourselves, and not just in this world, no parallel worlds as well. So, there are different versions of this conversation endlessly happening around the world, but there's also the war planet. There is also the other one that apparently he lost that battle, and he was very angry. The very first, the teenage version, it was always some very, very..

Mariko Frederick 46:27
Like, I could cry, like it was so heartbreaking.

Alex Ferrari 46:29
It was horrible. Yeah, I felt it. I felt the feelings of what I was feeling. It was just..

Mariko Frederick 46:34
He was devastated.

Alex Ferrari 46:34
The oddest experience, but profound experience of my spiritual life. Yeah, and I've had a few things happen to me over the years, but this is the one that really stuck with me. And then you're like, okay, it's time to go, and I found that so fascinating, that another version of myself is battling in another reality, so I could do this,

Mariko Frederick 46:59
And you also got a glimpse of what happens if you lose, if we lose the devastation, like

Alex Ferrari 47:05
Right. So that was the first step.

Mariko Frederick 47:06
The first step, yeah.

Alex Ferrari 47:07
So the very first one was that. The very second one was the battle of it. It's almost like we're Christmas Carol. I'm like, I'm literally, I'm like Scrooge, and you're like taking me through Christmas past, Christmas present, and Christmas future, it's, it's really great. So, the past one was the past one, then there was the current one, I guess that was going on. Yeah, but then we left, and we go to another one, and then this one we're in a utopia, and it was these.. we go into this.. I know I sound crazy, everybody, this. it sounds.. it's crazy to me, talking about it, but this is what happened, and I have a witness that was explained to what was going on.

Mariko Frederick 47:48
I know it happened.

Alex Ferrari 47:49
Um, and again, before I even continue, I don't care if you believe or you don't believe, I just know what it felt for me, kind of like I don't believe if I don't believe.. I don't care if you believe I died or didn't die. I know what happened, so it's kind of similar in that sense, like, but what I felt from it, it was profound. So, even if I was making it all up, I'm pretty profound within myself that I've made these things up. I made you imagine that could feel these things, yeah. It wasn't just a witnessing, it was a feeling of it. So, the next one we go in, and I'm in this kind of bubble city, so we're in this. I can see it very clear, this giant buildings, but very futuristic. We're enclosed in this kind of almost dome, glass dome of some sort, and everything's beautiful. Everything goes like a force field, actually. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, exactly, some sort of dome of some sort, yeah, and everything's perfect, everything's beautiful, and there's these beings there who are again versions of me, but that's this is not a human version, this is a very tall, the only thing I can, I can kind of connect it to where the gonna geek out here a little bit in Star Wars: Attack of the Clones, the species of alien that made the clones, very tall, lanky, tall necks, but they were not exactly that, they were versions of that, and they were very peaceful, and they're like, "Oh, we're so happy you're here, this is nice, this is what it could be, and that's the feeling I got, this is where it could go, this is where we can go as a species to this beautiful, peaceful, blissful place. So we're going through all of that, Yogananda is hanging out in the corner, just watching the whole thing with me, and then then that's this is when it starts to get a little interesting, and I might need some help from you recollecting it as much as you can, we come out and you're like, Alex, would you like to go to the higher, higher realms? I've never been here before, and I'm like, sure, let's go, and you're like, okay. And it was almost like we got into an elevator. I remember this is my recollection, please correct me if I'm wrong. We got into an elevator of some sort, and we. Were just shooting up, like passing, do not pass, go, do not collect, do, and it's just like straight up, and when we get to this place, it's almost like I can't say it's heaven, but the floor was clouds,

Mariko Frederick 50:16
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 50:16
It was cloud,

Mariko Frederick 50:17
Yeah, it was a non-corporal realm,

Alex Ferrari 50:19
Completely

Mariko Frederick 50:19
Of just,

Alex Ferrari 50:20
There was no, there's no structures, there's nothing. It was just kind of like this light clouds were the, I guess, this the floor, and

Mariko Frederick 50:31
There's not really a floor, it's not really a realm of, yeah, just light and

Alex Ferrari 50:35
Light, but I remember clouds, I remember some sort of clouds around where the floor would be, as I'm recollecting this story, it's still like a little nutty, and then I see all of my guides, all of them, and there's 1000s.

Mariko Frederick 50:56
Well, I think it was from all the dimensions or something, because it was all of them,

Alex Ferrari 50:59
It was everybody,

Mariko Frederick 51:00
You could have that many.

Alex Ferrari 51:01
It was, you were like, what is that like? It was all, yeah. I didn't know. I mean, I could. It was like seeing a sea of beings, all light beings, essentially. And they turn and they look at me, and they're so happy to see me. And then one of them moves forward and I don't remember anything after that. We have the recording, I should go back and watch it. I remember that he was kind of like, or that being was the spokesperson of the of the whole kind of like a group entity, kind of like when you channel, you know, Theo, like Sheila channels Theo, it's a group of angels that walks through this one, this one voice. It was something similar.

Mariko Frederick 51:46
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 51:47
What do you remember from that? Because I don't, I don't remember what was said. What I just remember, I knew who they were right away, like I wasn't like, who are all these right beings? I knew I'm like, these are my, these are my guides.

Mariko Frederick 51:59
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 52:00
This is like my spirit team, it's like all, but it was

Mariko Frederick 52:04
All, all of them from all the multiverse. It was wild,

Alex Ferrari 52:08
It was, it's like seeing a sea that you, that had no end,

Mariko Frederick 52:12
Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 52:13
And then they all turned and looked at me, no eyes just, I just saw their energy coming towards me, and it was like this thing, it was just, it was just so bizarre, yeah, but I felt it. I felt the love, I felt the bliss. I felt.. I just.. when you're in the astral realm, there's a knowing,

Mariko Frederick 52:30
Yeah, you remember,

Alex Ferrari 52:32
You just know who that person is,

Mariko Frederick 52:34
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 52:34
Or that thing is, or where we are. Like, you just know it's no one's telling you, no one's explaining. Hey, Alex, these are all your spirit guide. No, it's just what it is. So, it was very, it was very just amazing. So, what do you remember from that?

Mariko Frederick 52:50
I mean, from my experience of it was being in a realm of infinite consciousness, so while you saw the guides, and we could feel their presence, and feel they were just beaming with infinite joy. For me, I was experiencing you receive that love, understand? You know, the assignment on your soul is much bigger than you, spans not just this universe, not just this dimension, but it ripples out into all the other you's and all the other into the multiverse, and so no pressure, but like this version of you has a lot to get done, and so what it felt like to me was getting amazing kids, shifting the multiverse. It's like, you know, it's Tuesday, so for you it felt like getting an I don't even say download, because you can't download so much, but it was this merging of remembrance of saying this is who you are, this is who you were here to be, giving you that, and then watching you, your consciousness, your, your, your, your consciousness, really your, your energy, but more than energy sync up with all of it and move into oneness consciousness, and so the highest realm was just oneness consciousness, where there is no one, and so eventually that's what I was experiencing, was just watching, there's no words, just watching you be nothing, just watching you, that that that unit of God's consciousness return to God's consciousness, and then just be in the infinite band of love and consciousness. So, that's what I was witnessing.

Alex Ferrari 54:46
Yeah, I don't remember them saying anything.

Mariko Frederick 54:48
There's nothing to say.

Alex Ferrari 54:49
Yeah, it was, and I don't remember the download. I don't remember it logically. No, there wasn't. Mentally,

Mariko Frederick 54:55
You can't take it in. That's what I'm saying. When we die and we get all this stuff, there's no words. To be like, you're going to do this. It's like

Alex Ferrari 55:02
It's instant.

Mariko Frederick 55:03
You became it.

Alex Ferrari 55:04
It's just there. You're just done. Like, yeah, if you ask the question in your mind, it answers being it's answered in less than a second. It's instantly answered.

Mariko Frederick 55:12
Yeah, it's way more efficient,

Alex Ferrari 55:13
Very much more efficient than this clunky language. Yeah, that we have to constantly change depending on the region of the world we're not of our kids, or the age of our kids, Riz brah, you have a lot of aura. Okay, so hold on, hold on, I got it. I gotta say this. For every parent listening, I've, I've listened, I heard, I heard this somewhere, and I thought this was genius. If you want to annoy, if you have kids who say six seven constantly, every time they say six seven in front of you, all you have to do is they'll go six seven and you'll go eight nine, and it pisses them off so badly it freaks them out, and they'll stop doing it in front of you. So it's a little tip from Uncle Alex.

Mariko Frederick 56:00
Wait to try it on

Alex Ferrari 56:01
Nine eight, try it, please. Leave in the comments what happens, because trust me, it will piss them off. And it just.. and they're.. they can't compute what's happening. They're like, wait a minute, we're the only ridiculous ones here. You can be ridiculous too, like 8989 Sure, brilliant. It's brilliant. I've seen it. I've seen it work on my kids and on other kids. It freaks them out. It's wonderful, but yes, different languages that are constantly changing is not as efficient. So then I came back, and we had this download explaining the whole thing. Can you do you remember a lot of the things that I might have not recalled in this, or did I recall it pretty,

Mariko Frederick 56:45
You recalled most of it, I think. The big thing, you know, the last part I do is what we're.. it's a download to imprint, I call it an astral imprint, where I bring the teachings of what they're trying to share with you through words, through frequency, and like imprint it with light codes into you, or they essentially do right. I'm, I'm here, but they're, you know, not gonna.. Yogananda is.. I'm not doing a better job than him. Whatever he wants to do, I'm like, cool, man. I just work here. Whatever you need to do is fine. So that was the astral imprint of, like, this is what you're becoming, this is what you're here to be. This is who you're here to be. Go be it. We get that download, but for you again in the end, essentially it was like, yes, next level soul has to grow. It has to. It will. More opportunities will come. All the things that are coming will come. And it was.. I mean, it's interesting, because with you, you know, I think a lot of your guests, like, we're here to change the world, we're here to help, but you're providing the platform for people to do that, so for you, there's a lot more at stake. It felt like you had, like, the burden of, like, actually doing it, like I could say, "Oh, I'm just here to.. we have to be, but you actually have a lot to do. And there was, so I felt like they were giving you the support structure to do, so you could become the person that can do, because I mean, if you think Next Level Soul's big now, like, give them a minute, and it's.. it's gonna grow. And again, I believe it has to grow beyond your lifetime, the work you're doing, and that's why it was just, it was very important, not just to you and the people that watch today, but to humanity. And so essentially they were like, this is why you're doing it, this is what you have to do, this is who you have to be to do it. Let's give you the energetic, the frequency, upgrade the support, so that you can, because it has to live beyond you, like it's important,

Alex Ferrari 58:46
But Mariko, it's.. it's.. that's a lot.

Mariko Frederick 58:49
I know I don't envy you. It is heavy,

Alex Ferrari 58:52
It's heavy. Yeah, it's a heavy.. it's heavy, like when I mean, I've heard this before from others, again, so many psychics, so many channelers. I've heard of this before, but seeing it and feeling it through this astrotherapy was very different, for whatever reason. It's the path that we're doing right now, but it's.. it's a lot, and I say that it's a lot, not just for me, but even for yourself and others who are trying to awaken the planet. This is a very heavy job for a lot of people. Some are heavier than others, some are smaller than others. It doesn't have to be this grandiose thing that you have to reach billions and billions of people, it can be your community, it can be doing one on ones, it can be doing, you know, events and smaller things that reaches hundreds of people or 1000s of people, as opposed to billions. Everyone has their own path, but it's still, it's still a challenge. Challenge, especially in today's world, which has gotten a lot of.. I mean, these conversations are going out, and a lot of people are watching,

Mariko Frederick 1:00:07
But not have happened in 1984

Alex Ferrari 1:00:10
Oh God, we would have been stoned. No, I don't think we would have been.. well, depends on where we were in the world, right? Yeah, we would have been stoned, but that's why it's always fun to me to talk to people who were doing this work in the 80s,

Mariko Frederick 1:00:23
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:00:23
And in the 70s,

Mariko Frederick 1:00:25
Be wild,

Alex Ferrari 1:00:25
Because they.. I'm like, man, it can't.. it couldn't have been your channeling, are you out? What, you're basically being possessed,

Mariko Frederick 1:00:33
Right!

Alex Ferrari 1:00:34
You know, and I mean, I can, depending on where you were in.. I mean, if you're in San Francisco, you're probably going to be a little bit more accepted,

Mariko Frederick 1:00:40
Right!

Alex Ferrari 1:00:40
But if you're in the middle of the Bible Belt, good luck, you know? I can only imagine what they went through. So it's always fascinating to me to talk to how that was.

Mariko Frederick 1:00:49
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:00:49
But now they look at things like, I can't, not everyone's coming out, like I'm a channeler,

Mariko Frederick 1:00:53
Right!

Alex Ferrari 1:00:54
I'm a psychic medium now, you know? I do this, or I died,

Mariko Frederick 1:00:57
Right!

Alex Ferrari 1:00:58
I'm like, you might have just been hungover. No, no, I died. I saw something. I'm like me, okay? Tell us what you did, you know? Yeah, so it's.. it's interesting now. It's kind of like I wouldn't say it's the cool kids, but it's a lot more acceptable than it used to. Yeah, yeah, people are just more open to it before they would recoil, and don't get me wrong, there are still people who recoil, sure, but, but nowadays people are much, much more open to a conversation like this about astral therapy.

Mariko Frederick 1:01:28
Well, a lot of them have, they've had an experience too, so it's not just that they've shifted and they're open. I mean, I think in general the frequency, you know, thankfully the people in the 60s, 70s, 80s were working on the frequency of the planet, and so then we can hold more consciousness and have these conversations and a lot of them opened up that pathway for us, but I think that because of that there's more experiences, whether they're having it in a yoga class or meditating at home, so they are more open because they, it's not like you said, it's not like they heard about it, but they experienced it, and it needs to happen a lot more,

Alex Ferrari 1:02:02
And that's what a lot of people have has happened with a lot of the episodes that come out. People feel the transmissions, people feel the energy. I had a friend of our, a mutual friend of ours, who did an astral therapy with you, and they said it was one of the most profound things that they ever experienced, it's a pretty powerful thing, disaster therapy. So we'll talk a little bit about the course in a bit, but, but you're also kind of a channel as well, right? You channel information, but you're not a chance channel.

Mariko Frederick 1:02:35
I'm not a chance to me, it's like really, really, I feel like it's really, really, really fast conversations. Okay, like it's happening so fast that it's just happening in real time, but yeah, I guess you know that is channeling,

Alex Ferrari 1:02:48
So you're yeah, you're not trans channeling, you're not bringing someone in or anything like that,

Mariko Frederick 1:02:51
They can stay over there,

Alex Ferrari 1:02:52
They can stay over there, but, but you, so like, if we start having a conversation, I'm like, hey, can we, and do you know who it is, do you know what it is?

Mariko Frederick 1:02:59
It's the Ascended Masters, I think it's the people, the ascended masters, that so it's always been hard to say who, because when I had my NDE, there were four beings that were there downloading me and giving me information, not wordless, there was no, again, I wish there was an instruction manual, and I feel like it's, it is correct, it is the four of them, but they're not guides in a way that we can comprehend on earth, because I have been trying to comprehend them as a guide, and I realized they're not guides, they're not just ascended masters for me, they're like higher realm alternate dimensional ascended masters, that's the

Alex Ferrari 1:03:38
So they're so they're ascended masters from another reality?

Mariko Frederick 1:03:41
Yes, a higher realm and alternate realities.

Alex Ferrari 1:03:46
So they're like the Jesus and the Buddha of their reality, kind of.

Mariko Frederick 1:03:51
They're saying correct,

Alex Ferrari 1:03:52
Okay!

Mariko Frederick 1:03:52
But again, it's like not quite, quite the right.

Alex Ferrari 1:03:56
I'm just trying to wrap our head.

Mariko Frederick 1:03:57
I know I try to wrap our head. I like, honestly, give me better words, you know, I do that all the time, like I'm human, give me human words, because I can't explain this, but that's correct. It's kind of like they are the ascended masters, but from a different reality that we haven't wrapped our head around, and so they're here because they want people to be able to go and connect with their astral self, their causal self, their soul, I mean, that's the end goal. What is my purpose? Enlightenment, that's it. It's really simple here, you know,

Alex Ferrari 1:04:28
Right! But, and when you say enlightenment, a lot of people think that's a destination, but it's not. It's not.

Mariko Frederick 1:04:34
Can happen right now.

Alex Ferrari 1:04:35
And then now you have to continue this journey with that knowledge, with that information, which happens. Yeah, I mean, Buddha became enlightened and lived decades,

Mariko Frederick 1:04:45
Right! An accountant,

Alex Ferrari 1:04:48
Lahiri Mahasaya was an accountant and a family man,

Mariko Frederick 1:04:51
Yeah, householder. Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:04:52
I always, I always look at him as one of my, my heroes, because it's real easy, it's easier to. Become enlightened when you can just focus on you all the time, go into a mile into a cave in the Himalayas, and meditate for 20 years, and not have to have any other worries, but when you have a family and kids and worldly issues, and still be a master, like He was, who brought Kriya Yoga back to us and totally taught Yukteswar, which then taught Yogananda, and then Babaji showed up, and and Babaji worked with Yeshua, and all of that stuff. It, I always look at him with a lot of love. I'm like, man, how'd you do it, brother?

Mariko Frederick 1:05:36
But I think that is the new spiritual teacher today, has to be,

Alex Ferrari 1:05:40
Yeah, the guru that is by himself, and there are still those, and that's fine,

Mariko Frederick 1:05:46
Amazing,

Alex Ferrari 1:05:47
But I think that I think I heard this from somewhere, and I forgot who said it, whether it be the Dalai Lama or another master that's walking right now that said we need to come out of the caves and come down and become the CEOs, become the leaders that we need, because the era of just the enlightened, you know, Buddha is, we need more now, meaning that we need active participants, not just information, and not just being there, are those still, and God, and I've had some of them on the show, but that's what they, you need to be out in the world, you need to like, if, if Yeshua or Buddha were alive today, they would be on social media,

Mariko Frederick 1:06:32
They would,

Alex Ferrari 1:06:33
They would have a YouTube channel,

Mariko Frederick 1:06:34
And they would not be broke,

Alex Ferrari 1:06:35
And they would not be broke, because it's okay to make a little money,

Mariko Frederick 1:06:39
It is

Alex Ferrari 1:06:39
As a spiritual person, which is a thing that pisses me off so much that you have to, oh, you can't make any money. Well, how do you think this stuff gets made?

Mariko Frederick 1:06:48
Yeah, I mean, we have cell phones, and we have to pay for these, and we have, you know, staff, kids,

Alex Ferrari 1:06:53
Yeah, it's a staff, and all this stuff. I mean, even

Mariko Frederick 1:06:56
Taxes, yeah, even

Alex Ferrari 1:06:57
Even the gurus in India, they have people that are paying for them to eat, right, for them to maintain the property, you know, there's there is real world things

Mariko Frederick 1:07:09
We have to be practical to

Alex Ferrari 1:07:10
Exactly,

Mariko Frederick 1:07:11
And but I love you brought up the CEO, because I'm a big believer that you know the way I want to run my company is I want people working with me, not for me. They work with me, whose sole assignment is to work with sole priority, whose sole assignment is doing what they're here to do. And I think, imagine if the companies out there started attracting the people that are working with them, not in a hierarchy, because it's what they're meant to do, and how much more productive would that company be if every single person there, from the CFO to the sales team to the people cleaning, were like this is the environment I meant to be in, not because their resume says that they're qualified, not because they went to the right school necessarily, but because it's what their soul is here to do, and that's my team, and I'm really blessed that I have that, and I want that for everybody, because there's such ease and even more abundance, because everybody's doing what they're meant to do, and that is allowing everybody to live their spiritual life all day long, because they're in alignment with their soul, they're in alignment with their soul assignment. So, as a CEO, you're going to be more profitable, you're going to make more and be okay, pay your bills, because everybody working with you is in alignment with your soul mission. It's their soul mission too. And I want that so bad. Before, I would love to see that before I leave this world, I don't know if I will, but I think more companies are waking up.

Alex Ferrari 1:08:44
I think more companies are starting to wake up, and I think that things are changing. I know it doesn't seem like it, because if you look at the news, everything is, you know, hello.

Mariko Frederick 1:08:54
I just don't look at the news.

Alex Ferrari 1:08:55
I stopped looking at the news a long, long time ago, and my wife always like, don't you want to know what's going on? I'm like, no.

Mariko Frederick 1:09:02
Well, that's why Next Level Soul TV is great, because then people could just stay in that bubble, because obviously what we think about is what we're manifesting. So, if we just think

Alex Ferrari 1:09:10
Conscious,

Mariko Frederick 1:09:11
Conscious thoughts, yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:09:12
Conscious media, and it is very important what you feed your, your body, but also what you feed your mind with the energy that comes in, you know, so I mean, sometimes I'll look at movies that I absolutely adored in the 80s, and I'll go look at them, like that doesn't resonate anymore, like I can't watch Bloodsport anymore, like no, I can't, I can still watch Predator, though, it's so can you, it's so good,

Mariko Frederick 1:09:36
I mean, they have done a lot of remakes, so I mean,

Alex Ferrari 1:09:38
The first one, it's just,

Mariko Frederick 1:09:40
It was so scary. Oh, God, the noise that thing made, that clicking.

Alex Ferrari 1:09:46
Sorry, sorry, everyone, for my horrible predator impression. And Die Hard is a Christmas movie,

Mariko Frederick 1:09:52
Totally is. Thank you. Anyone who says it's not,

Alex Ferrari 1:09:55
Listen. Okay,

Mariko Frederick 1:09:56
Did Bruce Willis say it's not? He said it is. Somebody else. Okay,

Alex Ferrari 1:10:00
Yeah. He said, is it so? People get, okay, let's real quick, because we're recording this around Christmas time.

Mariko Frederick 1:10:05
Oh, yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:10:05
So, I'd love to talk about Die Hard. In my, in my former life as a podcast host in the film industry, I actually had a statistician come on who all he does is crunch numbers all day, and he proved without a shadow of a doubt that Die Hard is a Christmas movie, and some of the key moments of that is one, every December Google searches for Die Hard goes skyrocketing, people wanting to watch it, so that's indication one that people believe, whether you believe it's it is or it is, and it's irrelevant. People do watch it during the holidays, so hence makes it a Christmas movie. There is more Christmas references in Die Hard than there is in Home Alone.

Mariko Frederick 1:10:50
Really. Oh, I love that.

Alex Ferrari 1:10:52
He went frame by frame, more Christmas trees, more this, and they actually say Christmas, I think, more times in Die Hard, that they do in Home Alone. Oh no, yeah, it's.. and if you start seeing the iconography in Die Hard, Christmas is everywhere. We're in Home Alone, it's not.. it.. it's.. it mean, obviously it's a Christmas, Home Alone is a Christmas movie, but it's not. There's more in, they say the word Christmas more, they refer to Christmas more. There's more Christmas elements on every frame. He went frame by frame,

Mariko Frederick 1:11:25
So it's proven

Alex Ferrari 1:11:26
It's frame by frame. So, without a doubt, that hurt is Christmas. So,

Mariko Frederick 1:11:30
The controversy is

Alex Ferrari 1:11:31
Until Hans Gruber falls. It's not Christmas till Hanfus falls off the tower until he's done. He's until he's dead at the end. It doesn't. It's almost spiritual conversation we've had, but those cemetery, there's that all over the place, but there's certain things energetically that I can't watch anymore, like I just can't watch certain movies that I adored when I was growing up, but I'm like, oh God, I couldn't even watch a Steven Seagal movie, she's kidding me, for many reasons, not just because he was a special soul, but there, but so when we created Next Level Soul TV, it was about creating this safe space where you can watch movies and TV shows and shows like this, and

Mariko Frederick 1:12:17
Book the other day,

Alex Ferrari 1:12:19
Audiobooks, which one were you listening?

Alex Ferrari 1:12:21
At the Atlantis one? Oh, is it that was so fun? Yeah, which one? Which volume are you on?

Mariko Frederick 1:12:25
I'm on three.

Alex Ferrari 1:12:27
Oh, yeah,

Mariko Frederick 1:12:27
I'm just starting three. So, yeah, you think it's the first two. Yeah, and I was like, just, it's like I don't have to think about, like, is I don't just.. I don't just screen the content, which I really like, you know, because I don't look at the news. I live in a bubble, you know that. I have no idea what's going on half the time.

Alex Ferrari 1:12:44
If it's important enough, it gets to us.

Mariko Frederick 1:12:46
It does. Somebody will tell me, but other than that, my job in this realm is not to be super involved with all the stuff.

Alex Ferrari 1:12:54
You have to do your thing.

Mariko Frederick 1:12:55
I'm doing my thing.

Alex Ferrari 1:12:56
Yeah, and if it's again, if a hurricane's coming,

Mariko Frederick 1:12:58
Somebody will tell me.

Alex Ferrari 1:12:59
Someone's gonna say you're gonna see a line out the door somewhere at Home Depot or at the supermarket.

Mariko Frederick 1:13:06
My husband, who's very grounded, will get things done.

Alex Ferrari 1:13:08
We'll have that person, they'll let us know. My dad will call me like, "Do you not know what's happening? And I'm like, "No, what's happening? No idea what happened. Where is it going? So they eventually get to, but yeah, but having that book series, by the way, it's one of my favorite things we have on the platform, and it's the years of Atlantis is fall. The second book is Atlantis Reborn in Egypt, and then the third book, which is what you're in, is the Atlantis Reborn in America.

Mariko Frederick 1:13:37
You haven't started it yet, so I'm about to, yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:13:39
About that whole about, like, why in these last 150 years we've made more technological advancements than we did in the last 6000 years. I mean, literally, it's such a small time.

Mariko Frederick 1:13:53
Oh, it's crazy

Alex Ferrari 1:13:54
How much we've in our lifetime, how much has changed.

Mariko Frederick 1:13:57
We were alive when the microwave was invented.

Alex Ferrari 1:13:59
Oh, remote controls.

Mariko Frederick 1:14:01
Oh my gosh, you remember how they like had cords.

Alex Ferrari 1:14:04
That was the cable box. I remember that was the original was connected to the TV, then the cable box that you would hit a button, and then it'd be like MTV.

Mariko Frederick 1:14:15
I didn't have, I didn't have cable.

Alex Ferrari 1:14:18
My dad had cable. Yeah, I didn't have cable at my mom's house, but he had cable when I went to go visit him. Yeah, what's MTV, which now is closed? I know it's so sad to be fair. It was closed a long time ago. They stopped playing music a long, long time. Yeah, but it was, yeah, we so much has changed it just in our our life.

Mariko Frederick 1:14:39
And why?

Alex Ferrari 1:14:41
Why now?

Mariko Frederick 1:14:42
Like, what is happening to our humanity? Because we're getting help.

Alex Ferrari 1:14:47
Oh, no question.

Mariko Frederick 1:14:48
This is not just this is downloads. This is higher realm helping. This is this is other beings more advanced than us giving us the downloads and the ideas

Alex Ferrari 1:14:57
When it's when it's time, when it's time. Yeah, you give the telephone idea to Galileo. Good luck. He wouldn't have been able to put it together.

Mariko Frederick 1:15:09
Da Vinci, look at all the things he drew,

Alex Ferrari 1:15:11
And he, they were just so

Mariko Frederick 1:15:12
He can't make a helicopter back then, even though he knew about it,

Alex Ferrari 1:15:15
Right!

Mariko Frederick 1:15:16
You know

Alex Ferrari 1:15:16
Exactly,

Mariko Frederick 1:15:18
But it's interesting to see, like, instead of just thinking I have this idea, how can I market it and sell it? Okay, great, do that too. It's practical.

Alex Ferrari 1:15:28
Why, why am I doing this?

Mariko Frederick 1:15:30
Why are you doing this? How is this serving humanity on a bigger scale? Whose sole assignment is it to come work with me to help build this thing?

Alex Ferrari 1:15:41
Listen, this work is not easy for anybody doing this kind of work, and if we have companies, it's stressful. There's a lot of stuff going on, a lot of.. so this is mission-based. It can't be money-based, because if it's money based, there's easier ways to make money, or what's the point of this? You know, this is exhausting. There's a lot. There's a lot of moving pieces, a lot,

Mariko Frederick 1:16:06
Especially for you right now,

Alex Ferrari 1:16:08
Right! And apparently these pieces are going to start moving faster and more in the future. So it's, it's a lot. So it has to be mission based. It has to be like, how can I help? How can I help the world, how can I help them awaken? What can I do? It has to be that, because I'm not 30 anymore, and I don't have the same energy that I had when I was 30, so it has to be mission-based. Where before it was all about the hustle, it was now it's not,

Mariko Frederick 1:16:39
And that's how we're trained, but even the ground people outside of spirituality, it's like, if they did invent something,

Alex Ferrari 1:16:45
Why are you doing it?

Mariko Frederick 1:16:46
Why are you doing it? What's your mission? what's the higher, what's the higher reason? Yeah, is it just for money and profit? Okay, whatever. But, like, if there's something more, I would love to see those people, those CEOs elevate their business in the higher realms, you know, like you know what I do with businesses. It's fun.

Alex Ferrari 1:17:05
It's, it's, it's like Jim Carrey, when Jim Carrey came out and said this beautiful quote, and I'm paraphrasing, where he said, I wish everybody could get everything they ever wanted, so they would understand it means nothing, yeah, because he got every single thing he ever wanted, biggest movie star in the world, rich beyond compare, dated the most beautiful women in the world, had the world that it was, this, it was an always, it mean everything, fame, fortune, all of it, and he kind of just go, oh, this is this is really not empty. It's not what it's about.

Mariko Frederick 1:17:44
No. And he was born. I mean, he's gifted too, you know, aside from all the things he got with money, he's also gifted.

Alex Ferrari 1:17:51
Yeah, and he's, he's awakening. And I'm Jim. Anytime seats always open for you, brother. I would love to sit down and have a conversation with him, because he's such an interesting soul that is a soul that is received so much in his life, and now he's kind of like put that aside, and it's like more focused on painting and more focused on raising consciousness, and that kind of stuff, and talking about that, and I don't think he gets a lot of people who can talk to him at that level, you know what I mean. People just like looking at Jim Carrey, like he's lost his mind.

Mariko Frederick 1:18:28
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:18:29
You gave away how much money? Like, you, you don't, you turned down $20 million like, because people are still caught up in this stuff.

Mariko Frederick 1:18:35
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:18:35
But he's at a different place. He had a Kundalini awakening.

Mariko Frederick 1:18:38
Yeah, and we need people like that to awaken, to share it, to say it's okay. Yeah, exactly. To say it's okay not to chase money and fame and all this stuff. It's okay to seek inward fulfillment. And we didn't learn, I mean, Gen X, we didn't. We did not grow up with that message. It was go to school, make money, blah blah blah, you know, we did not get that, so I'm glad that he is

Alex Ferrari 1:19:04
Gen X. God bless us. How we even made it is beyond us.

Mariko Frederick 1:19:08
We survived on hoses,

Alex Ferrari 1:19:10
On hoses outside, drinking water, unfiltered water from a hose. We survived

Mariko Frederick 1:19:16
With probably like God knows what in it.

Alex Ferrari 1:19:18
Oh, I mean, it made us stronger,

Mariko Frederick 1:19:22
And but thankfully, there was the PSA at night asking, where your kids are.

Alex Ferrari 1:19:25
10 o'clock, do you know where your children are? I remember I just watched it the other day, and it was like all these celebrities of the day, like Cyndi Lauper and Madonna, and you know, all Prince, and like, hey, do you know where your kids are? I'm like, I can't believe this was a thing. Every, every 10 o'clock at the news, they would just like, hey, do you know where your children are?

Mariko Frederick 1:19:44
Do you remember you have kids? Do you remember that you have kids?

Alex Ferrari 1:19:49
Do you have kids? And you're like, oh yeah, where is John?

Alex Ferrari 1:19:51
Where is she? Is the door unlocked? Is the door unlocked? We gave him a key. He should.. did he make breakfast? He make dinner for us yet?

Mariko Frederick 1:19:57
Is your room clean?

Alex Ferrari 1:20:01
I mean, oh my god,

Mariko Frederick 1:20:03
So if we survived, we get to do fun stuff like this, and then

Alex Ferrari 1:20:07
Anw we don't get bothered by things. No, we really don't. We do not get offended by things. Just watch any 80s movie, and you'll understand why we're not offended. But, oh my gosh, honestly, oh, something.

Mariko Frederick 1:20:17
You wonder why they're not getting remade.

Alex Ferrari 1:20:19
God, 16 candles.

Mariko Frederick 1:20:22
Oh my gosh, honestly, zero consent. So bad.

Alex Ferrari 1:20:26
Oh, and the Asian stereotype

Mariko Frederick 1:20:29
Used to hurt my feelings, being half Japanese. What was the guy's name? Jerry, Jerry,

Alex Ferrari 1:20:34
No, Juan Dong Kong, or something like Dong. Yeah, that was so bad.

Mariko Frederick 1:20:40
It was so bad,

Alex Ferrari 1:20:42
But at least he was Asian.

Mariko Frederick 1:20:43
He was, it was a,

Alex Ferrari 1:20:44
But it's not like Breakfast at Tiffany's that you see, what's his name?

Mariko Frederick 1:20:48
Oh gosh,

Alex Ferrari 1:20:49
What's his name, playing a Japanese

Mariko Frederick 1:20:50
When people weren't allowed to be Asian in films,

Alex Ferrari 1:20:53
Right! And he was like Andy Rooney, Andy Rooney, the kid from God, from the eight, from the 20s. Oh God, anyway, that character, that actor played him as a Rooney, something Rooney, Mickey, Mickey Rooney

Mariko Frederick 1:21:08
Mickey Rooney

Alex Ferrari 1:21:09
Played a Japanese the upstairs, and you're just like, oh, oh, oh, that's so horrible, I'm not gonna do the impression, no, but it was horrible, so but raised with that kind of stuff, you start like we're not offended,

Mariko Frederick 1:21:24
Not anymore, I mean, it used to confuse me because I'm half Japanese, and I'd be like, my family doesn't act like that, we don't, they don't talk like that, it was confusing,

Alex Ferrari 1:21:32
Like for me, for a while it was Scarface and Ricky Ricardo, because I'm Cuban,

Mariko Frederick 1:21:37
Oh my gosh,

Alex Ferrari 1:21:39
And those were the two things, Scarface is an Italian, um, doing a Cuban guy,

Mariko Frederick 1:21:41
Right,

Alex Ferrari 1:21:42
Really well, but still it's a caricature at this point. So we all talk like this, man. We are gonna talk like they talk about speciality like this today, man. Okay, I'm a political person from Cuba. We're gonna talk about channeling

Mariko Frederick 1:21:56
Vacuuming, though,

Alex Ferrari 1:21:58
A vacuum clean. Okay, let's not go down that road. Cubanisms is a whole other conversation. We make up words constantly in Spanish, and that's one of them.

Mariko Frederick 1:22:12
But give yourself permission to make up words. I did love there then,

Alex Ferrari 1:22:17
So let's get back onto the track, man. It's gonna become a meme now.

Mariko Frederick 1:22:26
Just like, open the show like that.

Alex Ferrari 1:22:28
Okay, man. Everybody today, we're welcome to Next Level Soul. We're here to talk about and about Oros. Wouldn't that be amazing? You're crying. I'm sorry, okay. Now, first of all, the chakras get activated with. no, I'm joking.

Mariko Frederick 1:23:00
Maybe you can talk to lower realm being their aura.

Alex Ferrari 1:23:06
I can't wait for the comments.

Mariko Frederick 1:23:08
This is us, like on camera, off camera.

Alex Ferrari 1:23:15
Oh, we're worse off camera. Oh my god, the thing is that you have to have fun. You do, spirituality cannot be this like hard. Oh my god, you can't say anything. It's supposed to be fun.

Mariko Frederick 1:23:28
You're supposed to be playful.

Alex Ferrari 1:23:29
It's supposed to be

Mariko Frederick 1:23:30
Our soul loves joy. That's why people come to me and they're like, how do I make money doing xyz? I'm like, whatever sounds like fun.

Alex Ferrari 1:23:36
Yeah,

Mariko Frederick 1:23:36
You know

Alex Ferrari 1:23:37
What? We're probably gonna bleep out when I say so. You'll know what you won't even know what I'm saying. I'll probably be exactly today. We're going to talk about maybe I should do an entire episode in my Scarface accent.

Mariko Frederick 1:23:54
When you interview Jim Carrey, can you just have a segment?

Alex Ferrari 1:24:01
Let's talk. talk about this awakening. Your head before you awakened, how did you awaken? Where's the kundalini people are probably pissing themselves with

Mariko Frederick 1:24:19
I can hear him in like his, all the voices he can do.

Alex Ferrari 1:24:22
Oh my god, right. Oh my god, oh my god.

Mariko Frederick 1:24:24
That would be so fun. Should have an entire episode. Please, do please,

Alex Ferrari 1:24:29
Please, Jim, come anytime. The door is always open, always open. All right, so I wanted to talk to you really quickly about your channeling. So you obviously channeling these ascended masters, what do. what do they have to say to us right now? What messages are they kind of bringing in that we need to hear at this point?

Mariko Frederick 1:24:48
I mean, the big thing, literally for everybody, and I'm paraphrasing, it's go time. This idea that you're not ready, that you're not prepared, that it. Not for you, that you're not qualified is a lie. It's something that you made up in this realm. It doesn't exist in the higher realms. You are literally made for the thing you're here to do. Nobody else can take your place. This is for you. And still, even when people hear those words, it's like it doesn't hit inside their.. it doesn't awaken, it needs to awaken something, they need to remember, and even they can move forward, even without remembering, they all they have to do is keep saying yes, okay, I'm gonna do it, okay, yes, what is the next step for me, and too many of the people on this planet right now are not just second guessing themselves, but even denying who they really are, so if they could just express to you that those of you who are feeling like you might be from a higher realm, that you are not an average being, you are here to do something bigger, you are here now. Here's the caveat: CEOs with a higher assignment on your life, it is also up to you to create an atmosphere where you are hiring people of a higher consciousness who are here and their soul's mission is to work with your company, and it has to start there as well. It can't just be the people going, "I'm here for something more, I'm here for something more. Not every 8 billion people on the planet are here to start their own podcast, write their own book, and do something. Some of them are here to help support the companies that are inventing things or doing something bigger, but those companies, the CEOs, they need to be feeling their soul assigned. They need to realize that what they're here to do isn't just a thing to make money, and I think they already know that, but it's okay, and they need to give themselves permission to not necessarily just look at the resume in the schools, but the people, and to hire based on, is this the assignment on your soul? And if you have no training, can I train you, or is like, where can you fit, because to me that's the enlightened company, but in order for so many people on the planet to know what am I here to do, some of them literally are here to work for the CEOs that are here to do something big, but they have to hire differently,

Alex Ferrari 1:27:13
That's very true, and it's happening though,

Mariko Frederick 1:27:16
It is,

Alex Ferrari 1:27:16
It's slow, it's slowly happening, so that's the big message that they have for us,

Mariko Frederick 1:27:21
Because to say to everybody, go do what you're here to do again. Not everybody here is here to have their own company or be a healer. So, for the people that are listening that are CEOs and have a company, start hiring more consciously, because you're going to attract more people that are here to do what you're here to, what you're also here to do. It's a group effort. Let's see what else they have to say. That was, that was a, that was one big thing to sort of wake up those CEOs to say, hire differently, hire more consciously, because it aligns everybody with their soul assignment. Again, it aligns everyone with their soul, and again, if the goal, the goal is enlightenment, being aligned with your soul assignment. Doing what you're to do allows you to live in alignment with your soul, so you're not chasing money or wealth or fame or whatever, you're doing what you're to do, so you can live in that love, in that state of love and gratitude all the time. And you can't do that if your soul assignment is a side hustle, if you have to go work somewhere that is in alignment with you, then how do you stay aligned with your soul assignment? How do you follow that intuitive nudge that you're here to do something more? And then enlightenment meditation becomes like a thing you do in the evenings for a few minutes or an hour, it's not enough, that's the thing. The people who are here to open up opportunities for other people to live the assignment on their soul, they've got to open up the opportunities they need to do that on a bigger scale. Then you get the people that are here to do the bigger thing, now they're in alignment with their soul, and everyone's moving toward enlightenment. Now the consciousness of the planet is raising because the modern day spiritual guides, leaders, whatever it is, like you said, are also CEOs,

Alex Ferrari 1:29:07
Yeah,

Mariko Frederick 1:29:08
And they need to run their companies like that, and they're not, not enough of them, and the ones that are on the fence and thinking about it, like the answer is yes, go do it, stop second guessing yourself, because where does everyone else go? Where do they all go? There's too many of us for everybody to go be a spiritual teacher or healer or podcast host or author. There's too many, but there's not too many if you're finding the right fit.

Alex Ferrari 1:29:32
Yeah, and it's.. and I love what you're saying, that you don't have to open up your own company, you don't have to be a published author, you don't have to have your own podcast or are thinking unless that is something that is ringing true to you, and then you might be able to do that for yourself. So, it's not saying that you don't have to, but not to do it, but it really is up to you what your sole assignment is, right? Like you said, if you're on the fence, do it,

Mariko Frederick 1:29:58
Go do it,

Alex Ferrari 1:29:58
But you might want. To go to another company first and see how that works out for you, because yeah, it's not everyone's going to be a boss,

Mariko Frederick 1:30:08
And not everybody's going to be a healer or a podcast or channeler. Most people, if the 8 billion people on the planet aren't, they want to go work somewhere, but it has to work for their soul, it has to hire them. Yes, and that's not how we hire. It's not how it's not how businesses.. it's.. I don't think business schools train people to hire in alignment with your sole assignment. It's not that conversation needs to start, and the people that are running the companies have to be brave enough to do it, and to go.. you know what? I want to hire this person, even though it makes no sense. You know, the person I hired, no experience. It's his sole assignment to be working with me. It's working out amazingly. I wish everybody could do that. It is possible, and I understand if you have a corporation, you have 1000s of people working with you, you can't necessarily change over right now, but can you inspire them?

Alex Ferrari 1:31:00
I think you might remember this. In the 80s, there was a problem with Tylenol. Do you remember that with who? Tylenol? Yes, the company.

Mariko Frederick 1:31:09
Gosh, I do. I vaguely.

Alex Ferrari 1:31:11
So somebody went around and poisoned bottles, and people died, because before then there was no safety cap.

Mariko Frederick 1:31:21
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:31:21
Someone could just open up anything, put anything in, and close it, and nobody would know the difference. All of that safety stuff happened after that event, but that CEO, without thinking twice, pulled every bottle of Tylenol off the market. They lost millions. I remember that because he's like it's the right thing to do.

Mariko Frederick 1:31:43
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:31:44
Why would I risk why would I risk someone's health because of money? Like, it just.. it was such a different perspective in today's world. I don't know if that happens. I mean, I remember there was a lawsuit back in the day of. there's a movie made of it. One of the.. I won't say the company, but there was an automobile company that had a defect in their car, and if you hit the car at the right space and the light was on, it would explode. Look, literally,

Mariko Frederick 1:32:15
I remember those cars.

Alex Ferrari 1:32:17
They were.. I mean, it's pretty legendary. They were Pintos. Yeah, I brought it up. My grandfather had one. I get it. Yeah, but if you like had the left signal on and you got rear-ended, the damn thing, what the hell?

Mariko Frederick 1:32:30
And you could still buy them,

Alex Ferrari 1:32:32
And yeah, so the, but the company said, okay, so how much would it cost to pay lawsuits versus doing a recall, and they figured out that it would actually be cheaper just to pay people off once they died than to actually do the right thing, so that's what we're trying to, that's the example of two different approaches.

Mariko Frederick 1:32:52
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:32:52
And one's hell a lot more conscious and more just right,

Mariko Frederick 1:32:56
Right,

Alex Ferrari 1:32:57
It's just a human thing to do, because he was looking at the human cost of life versus profit, and I think that's where we've kind of, we've run, run amok,

Mariko Frederick 1:33:08
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:33:09
With profit and the market, and having to pay shareholders, and every month is grow, grow, grow at any cost, where you know people are, you know, don't have pee breaks in warehouses because they have to hit certain markers every day, and, and so on, you know, to get more, what stuff, you know, there's a, there's a point where this isn't sustainable, the whole system,

Mariko Frederick 1:33:32
This whole matrix,

Alex Ferrari 1:33:34
The whole system, as of right now, is not sustainable. 100 we can't deal with 100 more years of this,

Mariko Frederick 1:33:38
No,

Alex Ferrari 1:33:40
It just won't work. The planet will not support it. We can't support it. We'll kill ourselves off. So, something has to change pretty drastically,

Mariko Frederick 1:33:47
Really fast. And that's where it's like companies need to change, like it's go time. It's go time for the people waking up, but it's also go time for the people that have the opportunity to give opportunity to other people. You know, if you're here and you have a company with 100 people, or you're starting one, or you're growing one, think about hiring people that are in alignment, because it just.. it's gonna work out better.

Alex Ferrari 1:34:12
Well, it's kind of like when you know I've spoken to so many near-death experiencers that many of them, their life was going one way and they were off track, and this near death experience is the off ramp that they set themselves up, like if I haven't figured it out by then, I need a wake-up call, and then they just kind of get thrown into dying and coming back, and there's different variations of it, some are more peaceful, some are not as rough, but some are extremely difficult. I think humanity is going through that now. We are in a rough stage right now. We're not in alignment, we're not in the road that we need to be on. So, some.. and it's been giving us signs, drastic things. 2020 was a drastic thing, you know. Oh, wait was a drastic thing. 99 was like, there's a bunch of things that shift. Did the planet in 2020 stopped the world? Literally, I believe that there's more of that coming. What is there's going to be something that's going to rock everything again, because we haven't listened. We moved a bit, but we didn't move fast enough. We haven't moved enough, and that's why there's so much stuff in the world happening right now. What are your feelings on that, like right now? What are their feelings on where we're going in these next.. I mean, it's five, six years, right?

Mariko Frederick 1:35:27
It's like, well, what do you want?

Alex Ferrari 1:35:29
We have to make this decision.

Mariko Frederick 1:35:30
What do you want? Do you want chaos? Do you want to get the, you know, parental slap on the butt, or do you want to get your stuff together? There is still a moment where we can choose. It's just there's too many people choosing the wrong thing, and those who are able to choose correctly go big. That's the thing, you can't keep yourself a secret if you're here to do something or share something, like do it. It's important, and that's where

Alex Ferrari 1:36:01
Stop f'ing around,

Mariko Frederick 1:36:04
Right! You know me, you know me, I know I'm like trying to, I'm trying to behave myself in my language here, so there's not too many beliefs.

Alex Ferrari 1:36:11
Stop effing around work,

Mariko Frederick 1:36:11
But it's, I think they don't understand the importance of what it is they're here to do.

Alex Ferrari 1:36:16
Well, because that's imposter syndrome,

Mariko Frederick 1:36:18
Exactly. So I'm like, get over it, it's go time. You're asking what the Ascended Masters have to say, like it is go time, or there's chaos.

Alex Ferrari 1:36:26
The thing I've learned in my journey is that one person can affect millions of people. You know, we have been able to affect millions of people with the with the work that we do, and if I can do it, anyone can do it in their own way. Doesn't have to be through a show, it can be through a book, it could be working at a company, it could be 1000 different ways, but all of us have the potential to really affect the world, and we have to believe that we are worthy to do that, and that's the big thing, because throughout our lives, most of us are told, "Calm down, don't dream, you're just one person, you're a cog in the wheel in the wheel. That's what we've been told, that's the programming, especially in the West, that's the programming, like you, we need workers, we need people to just do things, and machines, and so on, which is the other thing that's going to happen. Now, we've been told to do these things all our lives. We're told, like, if you go to school, you get this degree, you'll get this job. I don't know about you, but that doesn't apply anymore, and it's going to apply less and less in the next two to five years,

Mariko Frederick 1:37:42
Yeah. I mean, unless you're going for something specific like nursing school, okay? You do have to get a degree in that, but other than that,

Alex Ferrari 1:37:48
Yeah, engineering, yeah. But remember, a few years ago they were telling everybody, you got to be a coder code school, yeah, that's a future, that's it's future proof, yeah. We're always going to be coding, we're always at the world's going to be more coding, and then AI shows up.

Mariko Frederick 1:38:01
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:38:02
And now, like, coders are like, whaaa

Mariko Frederick 1:38:04
What do I do. Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:38:05
Right.

Mariko Frederick 1:38:06
But see, the other thing is that, as much as we can look at the programming we've had and realize it's a dead end, awakening happens in a moment, it doesn't have to take time.

Alex Ferrari 1:38:18
No.

Mariko Frederick 1:38:19
So everybody could wake up right now, or even if,

Alex Ferrari 1:38:23
If you choose,

Mariko Frederick 1:38:24
If 51% of the planet woke up a little bit more, we would live in a different world. And it's a choice to trust yourself, it's a choice to trust your heart.

Alex Ferrari 1:38:34
But, Mariko, it's scary.

Mariko Frederick 1:38:36
Get over it.

Alex Ferrari 1:38:37
I know, I'm no, it's scary. And the reason why I'm going to say it's scary is because I go back to that scene in The Matrix where Cipher, the bad guy, is eating the steak, and he's talking to the agent, and he's like, I know that this steak isn't real, and I don't care,

Mariko Frederick 1:38:54
I don't care, that's what most people are doing right now, huh?

Alex Ferrari 1:38:57
I know this isn't real, but I'm either too scared to go into the real world, to the reality, the truth, and I'm just going to stay in my delusion, because my delusion is comfortable. It might be painful, might be hurtful, but it's comfortable, because I know it. This other thing, terrifying, happened to me with this show. I stopped. I was terrified. It was the unknown until I finally said, okay, I'm gonna make the leap. Same thing with people. What I find fascinating about this conversation is we've had a Scarface, we've talked like this in the conversation, and we've had astral therapy, we've had a driven Cuban talking about chakras and auras, and we've had a channeling session. We've covered everything.

Mariko Frederick 1:39:47
You invited Jim Carrey.

Alex Ferrari 1:39:48
Jim Carrey has been invited officially. Yeah, you know, officially now. Anyone watching who knows Jim, please put the word out. So we've had a lot of things covered in this conversation, and I think. This episode is really the essence of what I try to do with Next Level Soul. Yeah, very deep mystical experiences, deep stuff, funny and laughing, and making fun of things that we should make fun of, calling, calling what it is. It is, you know, calling a spade a spade. Yeah, you know, like this crazy.

Mariko Frederick 1:40:19
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:40:19
You know, it's like the Astro realm. What the hell? So it's been, it's been such a joy talking to you. Let's talk a little bit before we go about what we were created with your astrotherapy course. You know, in the course we were trying to put together, and when I say we, it's you, but you know, I was there in the room, you're there, I'm there. I press record. You did more than that. I directed a little bit, like, okay. Why don't we do this with that? But generally, what we were trying to do is create a kind of almost like a mini personal course on how to do astrotherapy for yourself or for your friends and things like that, right? So, can you explain a little bit about what they can expect in that mastery course.

Mariko Frederick 1:41:03
Yeah, I think what they can expect is one, trusting themselves. I mean, really, if you don't trust yourself, it's really hard to move. It's hard to do anything, right? So I'm inviting people to trust their intuition or their imagination. See, this is the thing people downplay in there. Am I imagining it? So, what if you are? So, what if what if your imagination is the, the way that your clear cognizance, your knowing is showing up, because that's usually what's happening. They have a knowing, and then they imagine the knowing, and they're like, "I just imagined it. No, you knew it to be true, and then you create an image perfect, so with astral therapy you can expect to connect to your higher body, your astral body, your body of light. You can expect to experience connecting to the higher realms, however that works for you, though. See, everybody's different, so some people have all their clears open and they might see and feel and hear all the things, and some people, you know, they want to

Alex Ferrari 1:42:07
Thundercats

Mariko Frederick 1:42:08
Shira too, so you might experience a lot of phenomenon, but if you know me and you know me. Phenomenon is not the most important thing. It's lights and sound effects. It's not astral therapy to me, isn't about having this huge experience, because now you've got you having an experience, which is separate from God consciousness. But if you can experience your body of light, your consciousness perfect if you experience a knowing, great, and some people have a lot of experiences like you, but the ones who don't, that's perfect too, because they're going to experience exactly what they need, so it's going to be different for a lot of people, but you can experience your guide, that was one of the big goals that we set, was I want them to be able to get answers, because again, coming back to trusting yourself, and some of the answers people get, you can't make that stuff up, they're gonna know, but that was not me, that was not you, that was their guide, yeah, that was their guide, that was their higher self, their soul, whatever, giving them instructions, telling them some truths, possibly releasing something, maybe something that's been lingering, something they need to heal, because again, I'm not really big into the lights and sound effects of all the psychic stuff, because I've been, you know, my whole life I've had it, but that's not allowed, that that's not a road to enlightenment. All the lights and all that stuff, it's not a road to direct enlightenment. Oneness consciousness, remembering who you are, that's the important thing. So I'm really careful to not get too carried away with that, because too much emphasis, in my experience, of few decades, people get way too into the experience. I want to experience, I want to see, I want to feel, I want to, I want to, like, I don't hear anything. I'm like, great, good. Do you know it? Yeah, that's so much faster now. You don't have to process what you heard and saw, and all this. It's great, it's wonderful. I have all of them open, but, like, I want to make sure that people understand that their experience is valid and true and perfect for them, and it shouldn't be any other way,

Alex Ferrari 1:44:21
yeah. Not everyone's gonna have my experience. My experience is my experience.

Mariko Frederick 1:44:24
Your experience was

Alex Ferrari 1:44:26
my experience, and what

Mariko Frederick 1:44:27
Your experience is always,

Alex Ferrari 1:44:28
But it's what I needed to see.

Mariko Frederick 1:44:30
It's what you needed to, because of

Alex Ferrari 1:44:32
What we're doing,

Mariko Frederick 1:44:32
What we're doing now. And some people might experience what they feel is like the void and in knowing, because that's what they need,

Alex Ferrari 1:44:44
And that's the key to this stuff,

Mariko Frederick 1:44:45
That's the key. You're gonna get what you need, not what you think you need, not what you think you want. Yeah, or what your friend got, or whatever. And we don't want to compare.

Alex Ferrari 1:44:54
Yes, I didn't. I didn't see my spirit guide, so I didn't see, I didn't, I didn't have yoga on the show for me. Like that's not, that's not the point.

Mariko Frederick 1:45:02
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:45:02
It's kind of like the, the yogic traps, the, the, the yogic powers, the satisfy, forgot what they're actually called, but the, the levitation, the bio location, the manifestation of ash, or something like that, or these powers, the yogic powers that come along as you're on the road to enlightenment, they're kind of traps,

Mariko Frederick 1:45:26
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:45:26
Because you can spend 30 years figuring out how to levitate, right, and it's done, it's been done, it's it's something that can be done, or telekinesis, or moving things with their mind using the fourth, all this kind of stuff, but it's it's all these yogic powers that people will get just by the nature of going on the road to enlightenment, it's, it's paratechnics, just like, oh, that's nice, let's keep going,

Mariko Frederick 1:45:53
Keep going,

Alex Ferrari 1:45:53
Yeah, it's like, you know, and I'm just always keep going and not get caught up, not get trapped by these things, and this is something similar. People can get addicted to this.

Mariko Frederick 1:46:03
Yeah, I'm really, really careful with everyone I work with, though, that like, do not get caught up in the lights and sound effects. That is not enlightenment.

Alex Ferrari 1:46:10
That's not the point.

Mariko Frederick 1:46:10
It's not the point. It's not my point. It's not what I want for people. It's not my soul assignment to entertain people. That's not what we're here for. Aligning with who you truly are, remembering who you are, and that's really what astral therapy is, and it's a chance to go into the higher realms to remember who you are. From there, if you're remembering correctly, you'll remember that you are love, you are joy, you are bliss, you are not lights and sound effects, you are not whoever you were in a past life. And that's why I also don't do readings, as far as, like, who was I in every past life. It's sometimes it's so deeply healing and helpful to find out, but that's just not my work, because I'm kind of like, well, I don't care who you used to be, who are you now, what are you here to do, and how do you stay on track with that with enlightenment, and my thing is like, yes, I want people to move into a higher state of consciousness, move toward enlightenment, and pay their bills, and that's why I was calling on companies and CEOs, because people need to do both. We can't choose anymore. That's the problem. That's why this world is broken. That's why the matrix, the illusion we're in, is going to run out of time, and we're moving into crisis. We can't choose both at the same time, and so we have to choose money, because we have to feed our children, but we don't, we do need to shoot our children, but we shouldn't have, not the 80s. Okay, this is not the

Alex Ferrari 1:47:26
Gen X crowd. They just get thrown out into the street until midnight.

Mariko Frederick 1:47:30
Loaf of bread, but you can't choose only money and success, because success is empty without love, and too many millionaires and billionaires have found that out, that's so sad, because they found that they got everything and it was nothing, and so that's why I think the guides were calling on the CEOs and people who have opportunities to give, call in the people whose sole assignment are in alignment with yours, because now they don't have to choose between feeding their families and being in alignment,

Alex Ferrari 1:48:01
Beautifully said. And the other thing that we did, while we, you were here, is shoot a little series that will leave a little bit mysterious at the moment, but we did shoot a series that will be coming out on Next Level Soul TV as well, coming up. So, we've done a lot while you've been busy.

Mariko Frederick 1:48:16
I'm so excited about this series,

Alex Ferrari 1:48:22
But that's why we're working all the time. But I love this. On that note, where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing?

Mariko Frederick 1:48:39
My website, Mariko, I'm sorry, soulpriority.com so you l Soul Priority, and I'm on Instagram at Mariko Frederick, and Facebook, and YouTube, Mariko Frederick TV,

Alex Ferrari 1:48:59
And and people, I have a feeling they're going to reach out to you to try to get an astral therapy session from you. Can you just explain that process? Because it's not, it's open, but it's not open at the same time.

Mariko Frederick 1:49:11
There's an application process, because I have an astral therapy membership, and so that's where a lot of people can receive an astral therapy. It's not one on one, it's a group, and I do a live astral therapy every month. Other than that, there's an application on my website, you can click on it. Think it says one on one astral therapy, and people can apply there. And if it's the right fit, we'll put you where you know, depending on what you're ready for and what you're looking for. Like, some people are looking for something so simple that I'm like, oh my gosh, you'll get that in the membership. And then other people have a lot that they want to work through. I'm like, okay, that we need a conversation. I need two hours with you,

Alex Ferrari 1:49:42
Right! And then a lot of them can actually get a lot of it through the course,

Mariko Frederick 1:49:47
And a lot of it, they're gonna get that's my goal is, how how many people can we help just through the course

Alex Ferrari 1:49:54
And get them where they need to be,

Mariko Frederick 1:49:56
Get them where they need to be, and then have them also be. Um, self-sufficient with it,

Alex Ferrari 1:50:01
Right! Could be the course, course could be level one, the membership level two, and then if you really need it, a one.

Mariko Frederick 1:50:08
We're going intergalactic. Yeah, that at that point I remember you said that after you, you, when we finished the first astral therapy, you sat back and you go, 'Whoa, that was like interstellar. The movie,

Alex Ferrari 1:50:18
Yeah, it was very interstellar. I felt I felt like, yeah, I was going through wormholes, and you were.. it was.. there was all sorts of craziness happening. It's.. I just love this conversation, because we covered a lot of ground. We had a lot of fun, and so

Mariko Frederick 1:50:37
We're waiting for the Cuban accent show.

Alex Ferrari 1:50:39
Oh my god, it's gonna 100% but the thing is, a lot of people don't know that I'm Cuban, so they're like, I can't believe that this white guy is using the Cuban accent, cultural appropriations, and I'm like, no,

Mariko Frederick 1:50:51
You're Italian,

Alex Ferrari 1:50:52
No, I'm, I've, I am Cuban, I am Cuban.

Mariko Frederick 1:50:55
Well, I want a whole show, I think I'm speaking on behalf of everybody, we want a whole show with the Cuban accent, with all the made-up words, like the vacuum cleaner, and the other one, like refrigerator,

Alex Ferrari 1:51:05
There was refrigerator, which is free, the idea was basically just frigid air in Spanish. Pull over, which is a sweater in Cuban, but it's a pull over that took me forever to figure out. Yeah, it's what I might do a special Christmas special starring the Cuban version, my accent,

Mariko Frederick 1:51:30
Or at least an april 1 version, like somehow you've got to do something,

Alex Ferrari 1:51:35
Just something like that. Okay, man. Today we're gonna talk about.

Mariko Frederick 1:51:39
I know there's like spiritual comedians out there,

Alex Ferrari 1:51:43
Kyle, Kyle Cease,

Mariko Frederick 1:51:44
Is he okay.

Alex Ferrari 1:51:45
Yeah, Kyle is

Mariko Frederick 1:51:46
That's right, that's right,

Alex Ferrari 1:51:47
A former stand-up who uses humor for transformation

Mariko Frederick 1:51:50
So he needs to be the one.

Alex Ferrari 1:51:52
Oh no, when he's coming on the show in a few weeks, and when he comes in, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do, we're gonna do a bit, we have to,

Mariko Frederick 1:51:59
You have to now,

Alex Ferrari 1:52:00
And now I have to, you know, what? If I'm gonna do a Cuban episode, it's gonna be with him. It has to be.

Mariko Frederick 1:52:04
Yeah, you have to have a comedian here who could actually like go back and forth. Could be Jim, maybe Jim. Well, Jim, too Jim, we need Jim. Yeah, I think on the comments, just people are manifesting Jim Carrey being here as well as

Alex Ferrari 1:52:16
Yes. If anyone knows him, please reach out and put that energy on the world. I think he would. I think if Jim came on the show, it'd be a pretty impactful.

Mariko Frederick 1:52:24
I think it would be really..

Alex Ferrari 1:52:26
I think it could really affect a lot of people and help a lot of people get a much clearer idea, because I don't think he has been asked deep questions. I think it's all been real superficial stuff over, because the shows that he's been on, are you know, you know, talk shows. I think we could go a little deeper,

Mariko Frederick 1:52:44
A lot deeper. Yeah, profound.

Alex Ferrari 1:52:46
And it would be funny,

Mariko Frederick 1:52:47
It would be funny. Yeah. Well, he's coming. He's got to come. The world needs him. If he's here to serve, this is a great platform.

Alex Ferrari 1:52:56
Mariko it has been a pleasure having you here. And thank you so much for being here and working with us on our court on the course and the series, and for everything you're doing to awaken the planet. So, thank you.

Mariko Frederick 1:53:06
Thank you so much for having me. It was so fun being back here.

Mariko Frederick 1:53:10
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