Inside the Studio: Humanity’s Soul Upgrade with Annette Bricca

When the wind of awakening stirs the soul, it rarely does so gently. Sometimes it rattles the walls of your beliefs and throws wide open the windows of your heart. On today’s episode, we welcome the ethereal and electrifying Annette Bricca, a gifted psychic whose ability to connect with the other side has transformed not only the lives of those she reads for, but her own as well. Through this intimate conversation, we voyage into the beating heart of the afterlife, tragedy, empathy, and the alchemical power of love.

Annette Bricca is a lifelong psychic medium who has worked with law enforcement on missing persons cases since the age of 13, using her gifts to bring peace, clarity, and closure to those in need.

What unfolds in this conversation is no mere interview. It’s a revelation—a soul’s echo across time. Annette recounts how the spirit of JonBenét Ramsey, the child beauty queen whose mysterious death captivated the world, came to her not to reveal a salacious secret or unravel a crime, but to teach a lesson far deeper. “Don’t just tell my story,” JonBenét told her, “feel my love.” And in that sacred exchange, Annette did something she never thought possible—she forgave her childhood kidnapper. Not just forgave, but loved.

That is the strange wisdom of the cosmos. It doesn’t knock—it floods. It floods you with light so blinding you are forced to see your enemies as mirrors, and your traumas as teachers. Annette speaks of a young man named Miles, a client’s son who passed away in Chile. His spirit danced joyfully upon crossing over, reminding her—and now us—that death, too, is a transition drenched in light. “He was the happiest person I’ve never met,” she laughed with tears in her eyes, recounting his overwhelming joy on the other side.

From that joy grew her own transformation. Where once anger and victimhood brewed, now rests a well of peace. “If I can love my kidnapper,” she says, “then I can love anyone.” The spiritual truths she received weren’t just conceptual—they were cellular. Love didn’t just knock on her door; it moved in, rearranged the furniture, and painted every wall gold.

Annette also peered into humanity’s collective soul. She described the chaos of our current age as a kind of spiritual decompression sickness—a rapid ascent that gives us the bends if we’re not careful. Our technology, our politics, our relationships—they’re evolving faster than our emotional bandwidth. But rather than resist, she urges us to soften, to adjust, and to surrender. “You are not the bookkeeper of the world,” she says. “Balance your own books. Love your own life.”

It’s easy to feel overwhelmed when wars, inflation, politics, and pandemics collide in the psyche. But Annette reminds us: we’re not here to fix the world. We’re here to love through it. That’s the upgrade. That’s the shift. And as she puts it so poignantly, JonBenét didn’t come to have her case solved. She came to awaken our empathy.

SPIRITUAL TAKEAWAYS

  1. Love is not a word, but a frequency – You don’t need to say it to feel it, and you don’t need to prove it to embody it. When you love, truly love, even your past becomes a holy place.

  2. Tragedy is a mirror for transformation – From the most painful events, like Annette’s kidnapping or the death of a child, can come the deepest awakenings. Not because pain teaches, but because love finds room to move through it.

  3. Your power lies in the present moment – Worrying about the economy, politics, or the unknown won’t save you. Loving your dog, thanking your spirit guide, forgiving the unforgivable—that’s where your revolution begins.

In the end, this isn’t a tale of a psychic solving a mystery. It’s the story of a soul remembering why it incarnated. Annette didn’t just meet the spirit of a murdered child—she met herself. And in doing so, she met the rest of us.

Please enjoy my conversation with Annette Bricca.

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Follow Along with the Transcript – Episode 576

Annette Bricca 0:00
Okay, I'm open for business, you know, if you're on the other side and you want to talk. But it also catches me off guard, you know,

Alex Ferrari 0:07
As it would

Annette Bricca 0:11
When we die. Sometimes we don't die, just in our sleep, at 98 years old, knitting and, you know, with a cup of warm tea by the cough or our end table. Sometimes we die tragically, nothing lasts forever. We gotta go through changes. The reason why we're having all these changes, one on top of the other, that's making us as humanity panic is because humanity is saying, Okay, we've given you guys long enough. I think us evolving to that next level, remind yourself that you're not the bookkeeper of the world. You don't have to balance the books.

Alex Ferrari 0:48
This is the thing that people don't understand. When they want to change the world, they need to change themselves.

I like to welcome back to the show, returning champion.

Annette Bricca 1:09
Oh, thank you. Thank you. I'm so happy. I'm great. How are you?

Alex Ferrari 1:13
I'm great. Thank you so much for making your trip down the Next Level Soul Studios, I appreciate it.

Annette Bricca 1:17
I love it. It's been a fabulous trip. I love Austin. Love the studio. It's beautiful. And I even love to hear the words returning champion. Even more. I feel like I'm on wheel fortune or Jeopardy, like the final round. I've made it.

Alex Ferrari 1:30
It's funny. I've been saying that. I think basically since I started podcasting. It's just something that I always said to my guests when they came back, I was like, Yeah, you're returning champion. And everyone now it's become a thing in the next level soul community that, like people like, oh, returning champion,

Annette Bricca 1:44
Winning the ticket on Willy Wonka, like you had the golden ticket. Like I was so excited to even be a returning champion that if I now, if today's the last day of my life, I made it. Oh, my God, thank you. I don't think it is, but,

Alex Ferrari 1:58
I mean, you are psychic, so hopefully you would, yeah. I mean, they'll let you know that at least.

Annette Bricca 2:02
Yes, yes, I think, but I think I'm good. So thank you for having me.

Alex Ferrari 2:05
Well, our last conversation did quite well. Yes, people really enjoyed our our energy together, and it's, it was, it was so much fun. That's why I had that. Yeah, back. So I wanted, I wanted to start talking to you about the we're going to talk about a bunch of different things, but you had something you wanted to talk about, about about this, this cold case. Yes, that's been around for a while. And then you have some insight on so I just wanted to start off there, yeah.

Annette Bricca 2:30
So I have one of the things that I had told you the last time I was on and you know people that know me or I've been doing this for a long time, so as a child, I've always been working with the police in the FBI and helping find missing children. And, I mean, that's a full time job, so even though I do readings full time, I mean, I do, you know, have done that since I was 13, all the time, I don't very often get involved in cold cases, and the reason is because I just actually don't have time for that. And I'm, I don't want to say, Who cares, but I've been, I'm so consumed with trying to help find missing children, because hopefully find them alive, or give the family closure that I never really thought about cold cases, but there was an opportunity recently where somebody in the know said, Hey, there's this case that you know everybody knows about, the Jean Marie Ramsey case. Do you have some insight on? And I said, yeah, now I have more than insight. I know the deal. And they're like, what? And I said, Yeah. And they said, Well, why haven't you anything? Well, I said, I actually, I never, it never occurred to me. I don't know. I said, Because I'm honestly, really daily, so focused on the work that I'm doing that so recently. So when I when this again, this opportunity came up, I thought, well, here's what I'm going to do. I am going to tackle this like I would. Because even though I thought like I knew the answers, I thought, well, I'm going to take this the further I'm going to do like I would do it with a missing child. So I would meditate, and it's a little bit of a process. So I said I'm going to do it that way. And actually there was some surprises, because what I thought I knew I was kind of right, not right enough, but in in then tackling at the process that I do it, not only do I feel like I know exactly what happened, but then Jean Bane came to me and has come to me continuously to the point where, the other night in my hotel here in Austin, knowing that I wanted to say a little bit about it, because I wanted to make sure I got it right, and but I did, did it justice, and at midnight, I was woken up and, you know, she comes to me and was very clear about a particular part of the story that she wanted to make sure that I completely understood. I understood, like the facts of it, let's say like the like the details I didn't understand, the emotions behind it, the that sort of thing between the people involved. When she wanted, very carefully for me to get it, it. And I was crying, and I could see, like, as all these people involved, like, like, how they felt while it was happening, when everything unfolded, that that actually changed my life. I have never had an experience like that. I've had a lot of experiences where people have come through. I had a somebody recently. I have a client of mine that I've been doing readings for. She contacted me about a month ago, and I we had scheduled a reading for three weeks out, and she said, Listen, I know that we're going to talk in three weeks, but I have a son who is in Chile right now, and he was like a world like a wilderness survivor camp person. So he would go to all these different countries for many, many years and do this for a living. He was going to go to, let's say, Argentina, for a month and work that gig. But prior to that, he was going to go to Chile, some famous river and do some kayaking for a week or two. And he did that on a regular basis. And she knew that, and whatever she said to me, he's missing in Chile. So I know that you don't really help missing adults, but could you help and look into my son. So I did. And then we found, you know, we found that he was, he was not alive. They found him that the embassy was involved. Social media was involved in and his name is Miles, he had come through, and when he had come through, and she was still hopeful at that point, and and there was a lot of search and rescue teams. And when he first came through, like the first day she asked me to look into it. He was like dancing. He was like rejoicing on the other side. And so even though I had had a lot of people come through, I have never met a person in my life that was a happier person than miles was on the other side. So when I knew I had to break it to his mother that he had passed, but she again, the search and rescue team was still going to go on for a couple days, but I thought but I thought he was he's so fabulous, I couldn't wait to give her the message. And then I thought that changed my life, because that experience, he has come to me many times, and it did change my life, because it was a different level of I tell people often now he was one of the best people I've ever met in my entire life that I did not meet alive. He has changed the way. I mean, I have kind of been known for telling people live in the moment. I thought, I thought I knew that from my own story, but from miles who did live in the moment and who's living in the moment on the other side. And absolutely wanted me to tell everybody, listen, he's more than okay. He's better than okay. So I thought, all right, that changed it. But now is JonBenet coming through, and this what she told me the other night to see it from she because her message was clear. I don't want you to just report the facts. You're not a news anchor. Don't go out there and just say this. You need to be very careful in that when you do it, that you say it in a compassionate, empathetic way that these people involved, it doesn't ruin their life and and because she does want her story to be told, but in the right way, but from from your heart. I've never done that, not knowingly. It changed everything that I thought from that moment on. So I am really extremely grateful for her. I am grateful from this opportunity. And I also, you know, I thought long and hard about this because I can only imagine that when people hear this, you know, some people will think she's right on. I believe that all along, other people will have their way in. And I'm not trying to convince anybody. I just believe strongly, like I do, you know, with missing children, when I get involved, and again, because I follow the same process that when I find a missing child, because I don't just say, like, in five minutes, okay, this is what I think I because I'm, you know, really concerned I get it right and but I feel grateful to her because it because I don't, I don't, you know, even my when I was on last time I told you that I had been kidnapped when I was a child. And one of the things that I wanted to do was one of the guys on death row, the other guy is out, and he lives kind of not far from me. And I was kind of angry. I am still angry, and I was kind of angry. And one of my goals was that I wanted to, like, get him, you know, I want to go get him after Jean Bane, I don't feel that way. I feel I feel sorry for him. Alex, if you would have told me a month ago, you're gonna feel sorry and you're gonna feel empathetic for your kidnapper, I would have said, You know what, no way, because I was actually not feeling empathetic. I was feeling, you know, poor me, even though I wasn't telling people poor me, I kind of was still acting like the victim. Only until JonBenet came to me did I realize, and I don't mean that it said, it made me think differently. I actually, like in one moment, had instant empathy for my empathy for my kid, hipper. To tell you that that blew me away, that now I I actually hope he lives a long good life. Who would know that I could think that I wanted him to not live a long good life, if I'm really being honest and and, but now I actually, I. I actually believe or not, wish I had the opportunity to bump into him and say, not only did I forgive you, but I hope you whatever time you have left, if it's five minutes or five years, you just from this moment on, live the best life you can and

Alex Ferrari 10:18
But what? But what did Jon Benet tell you that made you make this switch.

Annette Bricca 10:21
So I don't know how to start it if I should break it down what I believe happened. So let me tell you what she told me, and then I'm gonna break down what I see happening, what she told me, that, when she told me, she so she showed me what took place, and the people that are involved are people that she loves, and it was all not. Nobody murdered her. Everything was an accident. So the thing is, is that for all these years, though, okay, what JonBenet has told me is that if she were able to say to the world, you I don't want the world to destroy my loved ones lives which they have been removed. She would like to say, No, the I love these. These are my family. These are my people. I love them. But something went wrong. This was a mistake. And then, you know, sometimes we do something wrong, and then, because we panic, sure, there's a chain of events that take place that when we in hindsight, looked back, we're like, whoa. Why did I do that third thing? Because that then took it to another level. I should have just had a cooler head. I should have thought this through, but because of panic, so Jean Benet has been from the other side, watching everything unfold for all these years, feeling very sorry she you know, she doesn't want anything bad to happen to her loved ones. She wishes the world knows, hey, it was an accident. These people panicked. So then it got totally to another level. But she she showed me love. She showed me from the other side, that she has been trying. Because what she others told me is that you know, hey, now you're not special. So even though you think you're gonna crack this, you're not special, because she has tried to come through to a lot of people to say, but they missed the mark about the love. And I think that the reason why I could get it again, not because I'm so special, because I actually was doing what, because I had this unique experience with my kidnapper currently that I don't love him that then, because once she said to me, I want everyone to if you're going to say anything about this, you have to make sure they can feel the love. So I said to Well, I don't know how to do that. She goes, Well, I'm going to show you. And then in one second, she made me think of my kidnapper, and I felt over overcome with love to the point where I say to people in my life, I say I have a daughter and a husband, and I say I have a dog, Fred. I say Fred is the number one thing in my life, and two and three and four and five, and my husband's like, am I six? I'm like, okay, my daughter's six or seven. But you know, I That's my joke when, when she said, I'm going to show you what love is. The first person that came into my life was my kidnapper, but the feeling, the intense love, like I do for my dog, there's no thing on this planet that could have told me that that was possible, but not that I that like I was going to start to like I actually felt it every single day. Since then, throughout the day, I wish him love. I'm like wherever you are. I am from a soul to soul level, connecting with him, and I am trying to let him know I hope you have not a good like a fabulous day and sending him love. So once she did that to me, I thought, there's, there's, you know, I, I'm, I sure, have a million other lessons to learn in this lifetime. It is the most profound thing, because I thought, here I'm going to come on, I'm going to crack her case. I was missing the point. She doesn't want her case to be cracked. She wants it to be understood. She wants everyone to there, to be a softness. You know, she reminded me that at six years old, when she died, and she died as this beauty queen, a little cute, little cutie pie, okay, she goes, I don't want that to be lost in anybody, because she didn't come into this lifetime thinking she was gonna, she knows she was gonna die at six as a little cutie pie. The whole irony of her being this cutie pie pageant was to for everybody to remember this, but to remember the love part, because what she came here to do was to spread love and compassion and empathy. And instead of everybody thinking, Oh, my God, this poor little girl was murdered, which she was, but not murdered. It was an accident, and she thought that she was because, when she signed up for this lifetime, she thought that she was going to come and and do what she did to me. But nobody got it because everybody, because everybody was so concerned and fixated on, like the police bumbling it, that then it so, I think she thought, all right, I'm gonna, you know what, I'm gonna. To deal with this psychic in New Jersey who's got this kid network that she's, you know, hates. So, you know, I'll help her. Let me help her, because by helping her, she can get it. And I did get it.

Alex Ferrari 15:11
So, oh yeah, that's awesome. So, it was an accident,

Annette Bricca 15:14
It was an accident, it was an accident. It was so, so I'm so, I would, if I may. I'm going to unfold what I believe strongly happened, but I also want to say that I don't want to get anybody in trouble, and I'm not trying to, and I also don't want to get myself in trouble,

Alex Ferrari 15:31
So please just do what you need to do.

Annette Bricca 15:35
So I believe that. So there are some facts of the case that everybody knows. There was, when they did the autopsy, there was some pineapple in her stomach. Jean Bay kept telling me, focus on the pineapple. So that is a true The pineapple is a true fact that she was, let's say, enjoying pineapple. Okay with her loved ones, but I don't know that she was enjoying it. So there was a family member who was eating pineapple. She, let's say, helped herself to it. No big deal. Okay, I believe this fam, fam, this member, this family member, maybe didn't want her to have some pineapple, you know, no big deal. And something ensued, so a sibling rivalry, whatever happened and and there was an accident and she got hurt. But, you know, I have brothers and sisters, and there's many times that that something accidentally deadly could happen, but when he hurt her, he didn't kill her, she got hurt. Okay, then another family member who thought she died didn't want him to get in trouble, so she covered it up, which was Patsy, and she then in a panic again, because, again, you have, like, a split second, I think, because when you are about to make a life or death decision like this, you don't think it through, you don't, you know. So she went into what she wanted and wrote this ransom note, this elaborate ransom note she started, yeah, okay. So, so, because again she, she again not thinking, I think Patsy, even Patsy Ramsey, even after she did, I think she's like, Oh no, just kind of crazy, but, but it was enough to keep everybody out of jail. So, so she, she wrote the Ramsay note. And I believe that that because she thought that she was dead. That's why she then was strangled. I think Patsy Ramsey did it, but be but not to murder her daughter. I think she just needed to make it look like somebody else did it, and that's why she out of love. Think about this. She did it out of love to save her son. So everything was an accident. It was all out of love. Then the irony is, is that then and again, because of the time that it happened, the area that it happened, then they started inviting all their family and friend family members over and again. I don't think that it was even that Patsy, at the time, was like, so strategic that she's like, all right, I'm going to contaminate the crime scene, because I think you know she's now she's distraught, because, you know her daughter is dead, she's distraught. A bunch of people come over. The crime scene was not contained, so now everything's contaminated, and then it was like the perfect storm, because then you could almost not, even though they have been trying to, like, run the DNA many, many times, there was a bunch of DNA that was contaminated. Then there were levels of DNA that they didn't even have enough of. Then it took a long time, then it was stored correctly so, but, but the problem is, is it destroyed everyone's life. Patsy died of cancer much earlier than she would have, because of the guilt and the disease and all that, the poor son's life. You know, I don't, I know a little bit about him, not much, you know, I think he's a fabulous human being. I feel such love and empathy for him too, and I'm not trying to call him out either. I actually, you know, if anybody thinks that that is what I'm trying to do, they're missing the mark too, because this is really about, not about, I'm not even trying to get credit. Like, hey, you know, Annette brick has solved the jumbled, no, I thought I was, I actually thought that's what I was going to do. I want to say, this is about love. So if somebody doesn't, if anybody thinks they want to go and, you know, confront somebody. You know, everybody needs to leave everyone alone. Leave his brother alone, let the his poor father live his life everyone deserves to live. And let's give this family love and a break, because JonBenet was only going to live till six. So yes. So, you know, I tell people all the time when we die, sometimes we don't die, just in our sleep at 98 years old, knitting and, you know, with a cup of warm tea by a cough or our end table. Sometimes we die, tragically, we always know, as souls that that's what we're in for. Like, my kidnapping, I knew, like I told you, didn't know at the time, but I knew after it happened, that that's what I signed up for. You know, I joke around now that I am going to, when I get to the other side, come. Playing to customer service and say, Okay, we need, we need somebody, you know, higher level and customer service to really, I need to speak to a manager. Yeah, yeah, you manage. Your managers not available. I'll wait. When is the person back on the shift? Because, you know, it was pretty challenging, but she knew, and she signed up for it because she thought that was what was going to happen, and that is my message.

Alex Ferrari 20:24
Yes, beautiful message. Beautiful message. Now I wanted to ask you, what is on the other side when spirits do come through you as a medium, what is the most common message that they want to give to loved ones?

Annette Bricca 20:36
And if I may just say this is for entertainment purposes only, and I am not a detective, lawyer again, not trying to get anyone arrested, which everyone love, that for sure, got it Well, I think that they're trying to tell me love, which I never again. I thought I had this down. I've only now with miles, and now JonBenet and a lot of people have come through and, you know, they Yeah, love but that is the whole thing, because miles is the one that kicked it off. If I didn't have this experience with Miles, I would not have done the JonBenet thing, because I I wasn't doing like when my client reached out said, My son is missing, I would not, you know, people have done that before, and I and I, if they're not a child, I'll help. But I usually say, hey, it's not really my area of expertise. I'll see what I can do. But I but, but, but in the moment, Miles is like, Nope, you're doing this. And I just said, instantly, said of my client, Yep, I'll do it. And I thought, oh, whoa. What am I agreeing to? Okay? And then he came through instantly, and he made it easy for me. Miles said to me, I'll do the work you and he showed me himself dancing to show me love. Everything that he told me to tell his mother was about love. When it was confirmed, they found his body and that they then, like everybody, 1000s of people inside, you know, through social media that knew him throughout the world, all these young people that he helped, they said this man changed my life. He, he, you know, I was either like a kid struggling or maybe not, but he showed me the meaning of life. He would come to my tent with his harmonica in the morning and sing and dance and heat anything that I know as a person of foundation I got from miles, and it was love. He is love. So he made me feel love than JonBenet. And now I know that in the past, when people would come through and I would try to give the person the message I should always have started with love, I don't think I did. I because I wanted to get the facts. I wanted to wow the person. I wanted to say, you know, things I couldn't know so they knew which, which is good too, but, but I think I should have ended with the love, because, you know, I did say many times. So when I was in California, I was started to be known as, like, a famous medium. I didn't want to be a famous medium, because really like to do it. I was kind of, kind of scared of that. I was, there was a little girl that kept coming to me by my refrigerator, who's dead. I was like, Well, I don't okay.

Alex Ferrari 23:05
Did you see and then when? And by the way, when, when you see people? Do you see them physically, like in or do you see them in your mind?

Annette Bricca 23:11
Well, I would prefer only in my mind. I but every once in a while, way more than I like I actually see them.

Alex Ferrari 23:20
Is there anybody here today?

Annette Bricca 23:21
No, would love to keep it that way, but it also catches me off guard, you know,

Alex Ferrari 23:29
As it would,

Annette Bricca 23:30
It does listen, you don't. So I'm always freaked out by it. And so the thing is, is that, you know, I said when I was starting to do the mediumship, okay, I don't really want to be known for this, I you know, but, and I think now, in hindsight, the reason why I don't want to be known is because I meant I would mention, like I would do a reading for somebody, and then in the moment, they say, Oh, my God, you're right. That is my loved one. You would hit it on the head. You're telling me things I could not possibly know. Thank you. This is life changing. But then two days later they would call me and they would say, okay, yes, I did say it was life changing. But, you know, Did they say anything else? And I would feel like, Oh, I'm missing the mark. So I realize now I didn't love to do it because I was missing the point. If I left that person to let them know that it's about love Okay, they're more than okay on the other side, and they want you to be more okay and live it up. Live your best life here. I would not have been getting those phone calls every two days after it. So I because again, I thought, Look at me. I missed it. So that is what I believe they have always tried to tell me. And now going forward. So now I'm excited. Now I'm like, Oh, I have, like, told the spirit world, okay, I'm open for business. You know, if you're on the other side and you want to talk, here I am, you know, again, I didn't want to do it, but now, because I now, I feel like I'm I want to hand out love bracelets. You know,

Alex Ferrari 24:54
You know, what's really fascinating Annette is that this idea of, I mean, she. Sharing love and putting love out into the world is something that is so needed now, and it seems like we're going to be needing more and more of it. Yes, as the world starts to unravel a bit more, I mean, these last four years, and now we're in the fifth year of this decade, have been probably some of the most trying in in human history? Yes, well, at least within the last 150 years, yeah. I mean, yes, there's been a lot. I mean, we've had it much worse than we have right now, right? But things are shifting and changing in such a way that it is very difficult to even hold on to to the to the bar on the ride, right? It's getting so crazy so fast in chains are changing faster than they have ever changed. Yes, in human history, yes, we've had tougher times, no question. But we've never had the kind of change and the abruptness of the change ever

Annette Bricca 25:57
The one on top of the other, the speed that it's happening in our inability to, even though we all vibrate higher, to adjust to it in a way that we're not freaked out. So now that I even in this last so 57 years old, but in the last three days, you know, thank you. JonBenet taught me a life lesson that if I could bottle it and hand it out. I hope Jean Bane goes, comes through to every single human being on the planet, and for one second, puts that, that love feeling in everybody, because now it has changed everything that I feel about, everything I actually am so much kinder and nicer in a different way that you know what? Some I was checking out of my hotel today, and when I was checking out the girls, the young girl said to me, I just have to tell you, you're the most loving person I've ever met. I go, nobody's ever said that. Okay. Not only has they never said it, okay, okay, I'm not the most loving person at all. But because this just happened, I said, Okay, that's really unbelievable. I go, I'm just curious. Why would you say it? She goes, Well, I'm sure you hear it all the time. I go, the opposite. I've heard it for the last three days, and she goes, Well, you've changed my life. So strangers think about that. How powerful I mean. Because if I'm just checking out and I'm saying room number blah, blah, blah, that's nice. Why would she say love, if it's not coming through my pores?

Alex Ferrari 27:26
And the funny thing is that that people will if you are able to, this is the thing that people don't understand. When they want to change the world, they need to change themselves. Yes, because of ripples. Yeah, ripples because now you affected that, and she's gonna affect somebody else.

Annette Bricca 27:40
Oh. And so the interesting thing is, I said those exact words last time I was on the show. I said, you know, if I do a reading for you, and I help you, and then you come away from that experience, whatever that is, and now you vibrate different, and it's a ripple effect. What I didn't realize, because I was still angry with my own life and my kidnapper, and I was my mom also was part of it, as you know, so I kind of forgave my mom, but I really love my mom. She's not the one that's benefiting. So after now, I felt love, okay, I can forgive and not, and love and forgiveness are different. So not only do I forgive my kidnapper, forget forgive. That's not enough. I want you to have a loving, fabulous life, and I'm gonna, and you know how I'm gonna help you. I'm gonna send you love every day. I am gonna wake up every day, and I, before I even like, say to the universe, thank you for my life, I'm gonna thank you for his life, because that is how the ripple effect works, and that is what I recently got. That's that's it.

Alex Ferrari 28:41
When that, and this is the thing that something that people have a difficult time wrapping their heads around, because they're looking at it from the point of view of being in this three dimensional reality. Yes, that we're here is that, you know, I've gone through trauma in my life. You've gone through trauma in your life, looking back, yes, I wouldn't change it me. Either I wouldn't change it either it was part of who I am and it made me up. Was it? Was it pleasant? No, right, but change isn't pleasant. Yes, when it when it's real change. And I always equate it to like going to the gym, you work out it's not pleasant to strain your muscles and tear your muscle fibers so it can then reheat, you know, rebuild itself up and go. You need to do a tear down right in order to build up. Right? The tear down is very difficult, and that's where the trauma comes in. Now that is the challenge, is that the contrast that we need to able to grow as souls, right? We need contrast. It's not pleasant, but if we didn't have the contrast, we wouldn't know any different, right? I've always there's a analogy I always use is like if you were born in a Michelin star to a Michelin star chef family, and all you ever ate was Michelin star meals.

Annette Bricca 29:55
Well, you want macaroni and cheese. Once in a while, you'd like it. But the point is that they don't macaroni and cheese,

Alex Ferrari 29:59
But without. Well. But the thing is that if you've only eaten Michelin star caliber meals your entire life,

Annette Bricca 30:06
Well, you have no concept of

Alex Ferrari 30:07
You don't have a contrast, right, right? So, right? McDonald's would be completely different, yes. So you would need, absolutely need to, yes, have a McDonald's Yes, or a mac and cheese from a box, right? To understand what you have, right? But so that contrast is where the problem is. But nobody, nobody wants to deal with the heavy lifting. Nobody wants to deal with the contrast, right, but without it, we can't grow, right? And anything, if anyone's really, truly honest with themselves, they look back at their life in the moments they grew were the toughest times of their life, yes, but they made us who we are, yes. Would you agree?

Annette Bricca 30:42
Yes, for sure. I mean, I have said for many years that i i When this had happened to me at a young age, and then I realized that, okay, this is my life, whether or not I wanted it to be, you know. And then you know, within, you know, five chunks of time, 10 years of time, you know, I was more accepting it, and I kind of learned how to deal with it and to, you know, make it my life. But not only would I not change it, I wouldn't. The only thing that would change is that I wish I got the message of love way sooner, because, again, in my own story, I think this Jean Brene, again, reminded me I died at six on purpose. In it. I was only going to live to six, remember, and I, and I do know that, I actually do know that she, she should have had to remind me, but I but what she reminded me was my experience. I was supposed to not just help find missing children, which is why that happened to me, but to learn love, because I didn't have to live in a life of anger. I could have been loving the world because I I was even though I do know, because I had mentioned before I had a near death experience. I thought the near death experience in the moment, and even up to the doing your last show, I said it gave me an idea of the bigger picture. I missed that Mark too, because the near death experience was supposed to make me realize that there is a bigger picture. So you have to be afraid of dying, not dying that But, and I think I told you, when I had the near death experience, I experienced love, where it felt like I was being in a warm blanket, like embraced by a condition, envelope of love, which I wouldn't, never felt, never have felt like that until Jean BANA the other day. I get it. So I believe universe said, Alright, let's give her this little let's okay. We're gonna give her a near death experience so she can learn love. I didn't learn it. I learned that there was something on the other side, more than this. So I think Jean Bane said, okay, you know what? We're gonna give this, this chick in New Jersey, an opportunity to learn love. Okay, she's she's gonna get it. And I did get it. So I believe that that's the only thing I would change. That I wish all these times that people have come through and all the readings that I've done, I I want the message to be love. Because I kept saying, you know, get through the tough times like you and I had kept saying, like, plow through it. Yeah, plow through it, because you do need to and live an intentional life, but live love yourself, love others, forgive others, and have a loving spirit, not a fear, because it is the game changer. It has changed me. I literally, I'm a changed person.

Alex Ferrari 33:22
But in that, let me ask you, though you you've all this time, you've had access to the other side. You had a near death experience, which not everybody has, so you had an insight to it. But yet there was still anger, there was still resentment. Yes, there was still an all this stuff. So what was it? I mean, I understand the JonBenet when she came in, kind of reminded you of it, but is it because you were still so caught up in the drama of this life, yes, in the emotions of this life, the part that you're playing in this movie?

Annette Bricca 33:53
So even though I was talking a good game, and I don't mean that I was acting, because when I've been doing readings, every time I tell somebody, yeah, I'm coming from pure intentions. I always want the reading to help the person, whether they, you know, they like the message or not. So I don't want to say I was acting it, but I did miss the mark. What JonBenet did was she made me love my kidnapper, because when she told me, Listen, I don't want you to go on anything. Do not tell my story, unless if you understand the love, because I don't want I don't, not only do I want nobody to get in trouble, I my my whole everyone in my that I love has life has been ruined. I signed up in this lifetime to die at six years old because I agreed to this, because I wanted everyone to learn love. That was what she was here for everyone. Missed the mark, and then she so she said, don't you? You know this is not about you. You're not gonna go on anyone's podcast or or tell anybody. Don't, don't tell anybody about me if you can't get love. So I said, No, I got it, but she knew I didn't, so she made me. Like I said, I don't know how, in that moment, I wasn't thinking about my kidnapper. When I said to her, how can I get it? And she knew I did it. One second later, my kidnapper. I felt my kidnapper, but I felt love for my kidnapper, which I've never experienced. It was a feeling, and it was when I was interacting with her, so when she did that to me, then I got it because, until I felt that I no longer had because I'm not out to get him anymore. I was not I wanted him to live a sensational love, a life of love. So when I got that, okay, that was the difference. So I think that because I could feel it, because if I didn't hate somebody so much, think about that, because I, like you said, if I wasn't eating Michelin star food all the time, you know that I'm not craving macaroni and cheese. Or you don't have macaroni cheese. Don't even know what it is, but you can, you can boil something from a box, and then then you can eat it 11 minutes later and kind of like it and but it's terrible for you. Okay, let's try it. So I had to hate I had to be like that, that person, that kind of, I had a crazy life. Now I'm 57 I think I'm on a mission. I'm gonna go after my kidnapper, you know. So she chose me because, you know, again, I'm not so special. But she chose me because she thought, okay, I can maybe get through to her, because she hates him so much that now she actually came public a year ago. So she's on a mission, so I'm going to tell I'm going to teach Annette some love. She did it. So that is the difference. That was the difference. So, again, I'm not so special. She chose me because I was because I wasn't getting the message.

Alex Ferrari 36:45
But you were prime. You were primed. You were primed for her. Yes, that's something I've noticed with the other side, is that when they come through, they come through or affect people who are prepared for the message. Yes, they didn't pick anybody in the circumstances of your life, primed you as a perfect candidate to receive this understanding and be a tool of the of her and the other side, to kind of spread this message and this message,

Annette Bricca 37:13
You know, think about it, miles, prime me too, because my right who I wouldn't, who I would not have agreed to do. Because I, again, I was actually working on a missing child case when my client reached out to me and I and I don't really ever take on two cases at a time, because then I it's too much. Well, it's too much. And then I think, okay, if I got a detailed wrong, then I that. I don't think, well, I just am a human being. I got it wrong. I'm like, Well, why would I mix two big cases? So I would instantly have said no. Miles made me say yes. While I was saying, Yes. I thought, What am I? Why am I agreeing to this? Okay, miles. And then miles made easy because Miles said, I'm gonna do all the work he did make it easy. Miles set me up for them when the jean Bane thing happened, because I wouldn't, you know, there's been a lot of people who have asked me about her throughout my life. I've never gone there, but I don't know why I just and I would say, Well, I'm, you know, so busy, you know, helping with missing children, I don't have time because I actually wasn't brave enough to even look at why I'm not going to go there, but I wasn't ready to go there until miles happened. He taught me love in a different way. He primed me because he's so loving. And then she then, so it's, it's so interesting.

Alex Ferrari 38:20
Your your frequency seems to have risen, because love is the highest frequency. So that's what the that's what the hotel clerk, yes, yes. You don't know it. You don't feel it. Yes, but people do pick up on that energy. Yes is at the same way. You walk into a room and you you meet somebody, and you're just like, oh, I want to take a shower, right? Right? The energy so heavy and right and right negative, right? So that's what people are picking up. Yeah, I wanted to. We were talking about changes happening so much and people not being able to adapt. It almost sounds like humanity right now. It has been in a deep water adventure, if you will. Or exhibition, exit, ex, you know what I'm saying, expedition, exhibition, yeah, all the way down at the bottom, the Mariana Trench. But when we come up to the surface, if you don't do it properly, you'll get the bends. Yes, it seems like humanity is getting the bends right now, because things are changing so much. You're not we're not able to acclimate fast enough, right, right throughout history, we've been able to change. This happens very slowly,

Annette Bricca 39:26
Time you had time to get used to it, or from

Alex Ferrari 39:30
So, from the movies to VHS, from VHS to the video store, from the video store to DVDs. These are years, decades. Yes, then streaming shows up, and then yes, movie music, and then all of a sudden, start. Now. It's so fast that you can't even right catch up anymore.

Annette Bricca 39:49
You know, I it's, it's interesting, I said to my husband, so recently, I was watching Netflix, and it kept popping up on my kind of newest TV as of October 4. Netflix will no longer work. It's not going to be compatible with your TV. And I go, this is a scam, because it's a new TV. So on October 3, at 12:01 I purposely stayed up watching and I said, I'm good, sure enough, 12:01 my show stopped. I'm like, now I need a new TV. Okay, so we get the new TV. My 28 year old daughter's like, you need a streaming TV? I'm like, I'm pretty sure I don't. She's like, yes, you do. So we get it. I call Verizon, because now I need a whole different box this whole thing. My husband said to me, if my poor parents were alive, they would know my father would not be able to watch a ball game any longer because he would not understand. Oh, it's too complicated. I can't, I don't even I can only watch even though my TV can do everything. And my daughter's like, okay, Mom, you're either gonna stop watching TV or because I'm not asking you any longer how to get on Channel Four, get on Dateline, or to watch Netflix. Okay, I told you 94 times I can't even get it. So it is because you're right. The world is going so fast now that we can't keep up and that it is too much, and we do feel overwhelmed.

Alex Ferrari 39:49
And the older generations are like, you know, you and I are of similar vintage. So, you know we were, you know we were. We saw what this the 70s. You saw the late 60s and 70s and 80s. We were in a generation. We have two hands. We have two feet in both and both sides, one pre internet, one post internet, yes. So we, we actually were right in the middle, yeah, where that? Where that transition generation? But the older, like my parents, generate, they, it's getting so difficult for them. And even for our generation, it's, it's moving so fast that we're just like, son of a, oh, yeah, where my kids are like?

Annette Bricca 41:41
That's what I mean. So like he said, if his parents were alive, he said, My Father, they could not watch TV, because I can barely watch TV. Okay, so you're right. So, so it is hard. So if you So, if those things, those daily things, those daily technological advances, are too much. Then imagine like, when human things happen, when you fight with your husband or wife, or you have financial problems, not okay, the things that used to be able to, you know, you know, I also got, I redid my kitchen. I got a new microwave. My husband's, like, order a microwave. I said, okay, yeah, whatever. I called him nine to four times at work. I'm like, okay, you don't, you don't just get a microwave. It has an air fryer, has an oven. He goes, we just make popcorn. Get I go. None of them just make popcorn. Okay, so I got whatever the lowest, the least amount. I said to my husband, we need to read the manual. He goes, Hi. I go, Well, you can't even open it. Has a child safety. You have to, I know, I know it's so crazy,

Alex Ferrari 42:40
But that's But listen, that's just like stuff, right? Talking about like the world that.

Annette Bricca 42:46
So if you think of just a person, now you have the stuff happening, but then you have things in your life happening, you could easily unravel, because

Alex Ferrari 42:57
Just watch the television, just watch news,

Annette Bricca 43:00
Because it all adds up, you know, if you can't now, you used to be able to use your microwave. Now you can't understand it. You can't watch TV. So those things would help you, really, phones not working. Your phone's not working. Now, you know, everything's your smart house. Is that working? Right? If you have a smart house and that goes wrong, you can't nothing opens you're locked in or whatever. But then not now, adding your problems at work, you have problems with your neighbor, your neighbor, problems with your kids.

Alex Ferrari 43:22
Well, the economy is going down.

Annette Bricca 43:24
The economy, yeah, wars overwhelmed, okay,

Alex Ferrari 43:28
And God forbid if you watch it then the nightly news every day. Yes, you're just gonna shoot yourself.

Annette Bricca 43:32
Yes, yes, yes, crazy. Yes, yes, it's crazy.

Alex Ferrari 43:35
So then let me ask you all right, so you know you are psychic, so I would like to know what you think is going to happen the rest of this year, and what's going to happen, I think closing out this decade, because I've heard what's coming. I talk about it on the show a lot, because a lot of people are very worried about it, but we I try to frame it in a way to understand what this is going to be and how to deal with it as it moves forward. Because we've all had challenges in our life. We've all had channeling challenging times. You know, the economy has not always been we. We went through 2008 the crash of 2008 you know, the different crashes in the 90s. You know, the 80s was this big boom. The 70s. Remember when, you know, you couldn't even get gas? Yeah, oh, yeah, all of these things. So we have been through challenging times before, but it's, it's never been on all on all, you know, platforms at the same time, right? Right? You know, it's the economy, it's war, it's religion, it's medical, it's school, it's entertainment, it's media. Like all things are changing so fast. So I love to hear what you think,

Annette Bricca 44:40
Well, so that's really interesting that you're saying that. Because when I was on last time, I said something on your podcast that I had never said to anybody ever, really, it happens. And I thought, why would I say something like that? So I so we talked about the election, we talked about I was kind of involved in, you know, I was involved in some intel with the assassin. Asian attempting, and then I pretend, then you said, we talked about you said, so you so I'm getting in that you're sick and to say that Trump's not going to win or Harris. And I said, Yes, when I when I in hindsight, when I think about it, I answered it wrong. But then I said, don't know why I said. I said, and I have actually, not only I think he's not gonna win, and I think she will win, I've never been wrong about an election in all my years, since I was a kid, ever, I would never brag. I don't because, even if it's true,

Alex Ferrari 45:33
I, you know, I don't want to, it's a 50/50 shot. Let's just call it what it is. Yeah, it's a 50/50 shot.

Annette Bricca 45:38
You know, I sometimes when I do a reading, I joke wrong. I say, Listen, if I was a vacuum cleaner salesman, there's no warranty on this. I am not guaranteeing this. When I made that prediction, you could imagine, oh, what had happened? Oh, yeah, the first thing I did was, had an emergency meeting with my spirit guide. I'm like, Are you kidding me? Why would you let me do this? That was lesson for me too, because what I kept telling everybody is nothing lasts forever. We got to go through changes. I missed the mark. Didn't matter. I and I kept saying it doesn't matter who's the president, but I wasn't even actually again, I was saying it doesn't matter who is the president, but I'm going to predict it. What I should have done. I said, Listen, whoever we want, whoever you think, doesn't matter, because for four years, the universe knows what it's doing. It knows who needs to be, whether you like Donald Trump or not, if whoever ends up winning that day, the universe is not making a mistake. Okay? So we don't need to recount ballots, whatever, whether you like them or not, who cares. It is what it is. Because even in my own life, a lot of things like you said change, but I actually can see, like I actually talk about set of love. Donald Trump got love today for me. You know, I'm just loving the world because I understand that all of the things that are happening, all the very challenging things, because I do think that what the universe the reason why we're having all these changes, one on top of the other, that's making us as humanity panic is because humanity is saying, Okay, we've given you guys long enough, honestly, to Get your act together, and you haven't. So now we realize we can't just keep it at snail's pace, you know, you don't have, you know, 10 years in between DVDs and then, you know, so now we're gonna just bam, we're gonna do opposite.

Alex Ferrari 47:32
Well, is this the equivalent of us, you know, as humans, as a soul here in this incarnation, we get from the universe a tap on the shoulder, correct, a whisper, a whisper, hey, maybe you should do this. Yeah. And as we by the way, by the way, and maybe a little tap, little push, and we continue to not listen. And every single time we don't listen,

Annette Bricca 47:56
A little louder. It gets a little louder,

Alex Ferrari 47:58
Little harder, top till the sledge hammer,

Annette Bricca 48:00
Until you pushed down the stairs right into a car accident. So sorry, we didn't mean I told you 50 times you didn't get it right, right?

Alex Ferrari 48:09
So that's what's happening to humanity, right? Yes, we're at the sledgehammer moment,

Annette Bricca 48:13
Yes. So what I do believe is I so the presidential election again, which I missed the mark, which? Again, Who cares who won? The right person won. And again, a lot of people are gonna not love what I have to say, but it doesn't matter who's what their name is, okay? Because if we, if we believe in love, we believe in the bigger picture, like actually believe it, because you can talk it, but if you're still defensive and you're so you don't want to fight everything, I believe that all of these things are going to happen. Are happening because the universe is saying, okay, you know what? Everybody who's not getting it, we're going to bombard you, because you need to just understand trust and love, live your life that way. Because, like you, we mentioned the economy a little bit the last time. And and when I was about to say something. You said, Listen, I just want to say, Annette, we're due. You know, this is this the history books every eight years, we're 10 years overdue. So whatever you're going to predict, you might be this psychic, but you don't need to be psychic, because we're overdue. Okay, you're right. All the things are going to happen, all the challenge, all the wars, all all of the problems is about, I think us evolving to that next level. But I what I did say on your show last time, I believe that in a couple years, that not only will we have all these changes, but I believe that, like aliens. And again, I said, I don't talk about aliens because, because I thought, well, I don't have time for aliens. You know, I'm so busy finding missing children. Forget aliens again, miss the picture. Can't forget aliens because I've had experience with that. I don't talk about it often, because people think, oh, that's kind of weird, but I believe that now, and actually, when I did your show, then that drone stuff in New Jersey happened. I live in New Jersey. Everybody's like, Oh, my God. Uh, my cousins, okay, my husband's cousins, this big Italian family, right? We're like, Oh, my God, you predicted these. These, these are not drones, right? These are the aliens. I'm like, my husband's like, could you just do it like a family, you know, you know, get all my family members on one chat, and let's just, you know, take care of this. I said, Well, but wait a minute, Vinnie, you know, they're onto something. Because the thing is, is, I believe that that's the next thing. What I said about the aliens that I just touched on that I believe, because we're not going to get it that now, aliens are like, Huh, okay, let's, let's, let's, let's deal with these earthlings, you know, these idiots. Well, you know, we got to take a stop over we gotta, we got to drop it a little bit because, because the the universe needs our help, because they really aren't getting it. So I think that first contact, yes, that has to happen. So I do believe that, like when you said, what is going to happen, I think that that we will feel individual. People will feel like their life is more in a pressure cooker. Individually. I'm not saying that to make anybody panic. I'm saying that to recognize that that, like, acknowledge, yes, it is okay. It isn't a pressure cooker. Now, what am I going to do about that? Let's have a plan, but let me Stop panicking, like when I decided with my kid network that when I got this information that he lives not too far from me, and I'm going to do all these things and tell my story, I missed the market. I didn't realize love, because I wasted a year and a half of my time being angry if I, if I would have came on to anybody's podcast and told my story out of love. Think about that, because that was my that's what I was supposed to do, what not, not throw more missiles at this guy, but I should have, I should have learned and set love. So I believe that aliens come and all this thing happen and and Donald Trump and all of these crazy things, so that we we can manage our lives better. We can love better. We can evolve better. So I do think that it is about us all taking personal responsibility and looking at our lives, whatever pressure cooker we're in, and then you make changes along the way, because a lot of people are gonna have a lot of financial problems, a lot of jobs are gonna change. I told you last time that I believe that, like, medicine is gonna change. I absolutely believe it has to Okay. It has to it's not I said I don't believe we're gonna take pills any longer. You know, surgeries will change, but I believe that everything will happen even faster than I thought, because I believe again, Jean Bane didn't come to me because she has nothing better to do and and, you know, she came to me so that I got it because she thought, okay, she's not going to stop going on podcast. So, so let's get her to say the right thing. So, you know, Annette, we're going to give you another opportunity to finally, because we don't want you to send the wrong message, and we don't want anyone to go after this guy that did this to you. Either you want you're telling everybody you want to help people, that you're here, that you're going to change people's lives. But how are you changing them if your life isn't changed? So I get it now. So all these things happen, like you said, so humanity vibrates higher, so that we do get it, so that while we're here, doesn't matter the time from six years old, if you're miles in your early you know, late 30s, whatever, because your time frame doesn't matter is how you spend it, and that's what matters. And I think that that is the whole message. Because if you're able to live an evolved life enough where I think that I'm kind of evolved, let's say I don't know more than the average person who knows don't know, but, yeah, kind of evolved, but I'm but I'm understanding more, because now I'm I'm understanding that I absolutely don't know anything. Okay, so I'm open to learning, and I think that that's what people should do when you go through a difficult time, say, you know, show me what I don't know. Help me. Help me see it from a different way, where I don't feel like a victim, or if I am having financial problems, I don't need to panic. I understand. I need to go through it for a different reason. If that means I have to downsize my house, maybe, if that means my credit score is going to be hit for a while, maybe do I need to get a job. Maybe be open to these things have to happen. Like you said, your spirit guide, or whomever, for a while, is whispering in your ear. You're not paying attention. So if also do you have a shift in your job, it's it's not because universe is trying to pick on you. The universe is helping you. We don't think of it that way.

Alex Ferrari 54:15
I mean, when i i I've had two, two staff positions in my entire life, fired from both

Annette Bricca 54:22
Probably too, too many, right?

Alex Ferrari 54:24
Way, too many. Yeah, happened when I was a young young man. Money was crazy. Back then. It was the 90s, yeah, and, but it was, you know, I got let go of, I got let go of one job, and I was already preparing to kind of open up my own shop, yeah, you should say You're welcome. I was in it and they and they, I probably would have not moved from that job because the money was so good. Of course, the money was so good, it was I could do it the job to get fired. And the second I got fired. Two days later, I got another, another gig, and then I opened up a shop three months later. Right, right. It was, it was all part of the plan. If I wouldn't have had that new supervisor show up who did not like me and did not and wanted me out, because I was the most, I was the most expensive editor, right by 30 grand, right, right of anybody else in the department, right, then I wouldn't have been able to do what I was able to do. So those kind of moments, when those moments show up, understand that there's not happening to you, but for you, for that's the that's the that's the for you. So you mentioned the economy, that's something that I mean as of this recording, the stock market starting to get really, really kind of sensitive about what's happening with the tariffs and what's happening with the economy and all the stuff that's happening in Washington. So where do you see this happening for the rest of this year?

Annette Bricca 55:46
Well, here's, here's what I would think about it. So when i i recently said that I had a young woman who's friends with my daughter, and she said to me, I've known her since she was a kid. So she pops into my house, she's like, just tell I don't, don't do a reading. Am I ever gonna meet him? And if I'm not, just tell me, I said, I go, stop thinking like that. You just want one husband, right? She was, yes, I go, stop thinking like you're you're not. You just need to find one guy. Okay, you're thinking too big. So like, when people ask like that question, I say, don't think about the world's money. You're not. You're not in charge of the world's checkbook. Okay, you are not balancing the world's debit card. You just need to worry about you. So when you think about yourself and how are you going to manage, don't worry about the stock market, because 95% of whatever's on the stock market, you don't even own any of it anyways. Okay, so why do you care? Worry about your individual stuff, and then you're good, because think about it, if, if gas goes up, yeah, gas it that matters. That matters to a lot of people. But I don't have a fleet of trucks. Okay? I have one car, and I don't drive it very often. So if I allow myself to get freaked out, like my husband actually does get freaked out, he's like, Oh my god, do you know how much gas cost I said. I actually don't even know what it starts with. He goes, what I go. I have no idea. Honest to God, Alex, okay, I'm a psychic. If you told me, I'll give you a million dollars. You tell me how much gas is? A gallon in New Jersey. I don't know if it starts with a two or three or four or five. I don't know. I actually do not know. Okay, I can find a missing child or a dead body. I don't know what gas starts with so my that drives my husband crazy. I said, Well, you don't even drive marriage very much either. Why do you care? Why are you so think about that. So if we just care about what we need to care about, and not solving the world's problems. And because think about it, yes, the economy matters, but we are not it. The economy's bank. We have to worry about our own money, so we take it on, and then we stress out about, like, you know, the index 500

Alex Ferrari 57:50
Well, it's, it's the equivalent of us worrying about a war that's happening across the world. Like, do I have empathy? Obviously, yes, but it's we have absolutely powerless to do, yes, anything to really change.

Annette Bricca 58:03
Let's understand that that's happening for whatever reason it needs to and so yes, you can think about it, you can read about you can have empathy, but put it in its proper place in your life. Because don't let that be your main focus that now you can't even function. Because if you're so worried about, you know, I have a lot of people, I mean, many people contacting me about, you know, I was on a podcast I told you before you where I predicted something about the economy, which was not about a recession or depression, was about, you know, money's changing, like, you know, the way we would interact with money, yeah, so I must have explained it wrong. Or maybe not. People panicked. And even to this day, people are like, Oh, my God, I wanted to retire, but then I saw that podcast I go, do not take financial advice for me. Do not not retire because of anything I said on a podcast, because I didn't mean it that way, but I said, also, think about this, if you have already been taking enough measures in your own life and you can retire. Retire, don't panic, because, again, we don't need to take that all on. So like, yes, when you say about the economy and you, like you said before, it's predictable, because we don't need a psychic adults, because we it is cyclical. It will happen. But if we, if you need to have a job to pay your bills, get a job. Okay, don't be like, Oh my god, the economy is so bad. How you know, if you need to buy, if you're a young couple, you need to buy a house, and the interest rates are high, buy house. Okay, don't necessarily wait for them to go down. So don't be so consumed with every detail of the world, because that's not our job. Let's do you.

Alex Ferrari 59:32
But by watching the nightly news and cable news and things like that, you start to feel especially if you're in an echo chamber. And even on on social media, you just keep getting fed the same thing, like, if you like CNN, you're gonna watch CNN. If you like Fox, you're gonna watch Fox, right? And if you just stay in those worlds, although the world is literally watch 30 minutes, yes, correct, and the world's coming to an end,

Annette Bricca 59:56
You know what's interesting? It's crazy. So I, so I about three months ago. Decided I wanted a few things in my life to change, and I don't, you know, I don't profess to be like a, you know, master manifester, because I don't even know I would wear it that way. I feel like I know what I want and I get what I want, but, you know, not accidentally. I would work hard, but I just don't even, I just know that it'll happen for whatever reason. So I But three months ago, I decided I wanted serious things to change. And I said to my spirit, okay, how is this gonna happen? And he goes, You gotta change your thoughts. I go, I actually, I actually said to my spirit, God obviously goes, and it's not obvious, because you're asking, how you gonna do it. You have to change your thoughts. He goes, because your thoughts are traits. So, so all you've done was change your end goal. But if you don't change your thoughts, so to answer your question while you're watching the nightly news. Okay, so you know last night, when you watched at six o'clock, you panicked. Okay, so if you turn it on at 601, tonight, because you still think the same things you thought before, so you're ready to panic, but why don't you turn it on thinking, I'm gonna turn it on because I'm gonna maybe learn something different than I didn't last night. I'm not going to panic tonight. I'm going to take in the information differently, process it differently, and allow my thoughts to change as a result of it, because everything is an opportunity to think different, which I don't think we do. And when, when? Again, I had that epiphany that I had to change my thoughts, I actually because your thoughts are are a habit, so I you had to literally change your thoughts, like every time I was thinking, I had to remind myself, No, those are all thoughts,

Alex Ferrari 1:01:31
But those thoughts are frequencies, right? They're literally electrical pulses, not put out frequency.

Annette Bricca 1:01:37
So think about this. I actually am a person who, again, not that I think I'm an expert, but kind of because I tell everybody, I think I vibrate, I I do, and that's why I think I can do this work. So again, the part I was missing my mark. I was vibrating really high, but I wasn't changing my thoughts fast enough in real time. So even though so, so only because I think of who I am, because of the life, the work I do, and that I can change my my frequency very high. Kind of lucked out that things are working my way, but I'm working too hard. I'm swimming backwards. If I can also raise my frequency and my thoughts, okay, ching, ching, that's the key. You get there instantly. So you know, as an outsider watching the World happen, stop everybody. Stop panicking. Take this moment to realize that anything, if you are one of those people that are really, really worried about the economy, remind yourself that you're not the bookkeeper of the world. You don't have to balance the books. You worry about your own life, your own finances, and do the things that you need to, and don't worry about the economy so much, because that's why you can't make decisions. That's why you're you can't make an investment. You're you know, because, yes, you're making decisions out of fear or not making decisions out of fear, yes, yes.

Alex Ferrari 1:03:00
And that's and I think that's where everyone's starting to to get I mean, that fight or flight is on Yes, 24/7 now yes, and it seems to just getting more ramped up. That's why there. I feel that there's so much, so many people cracking, literally, cracking, literally, literally cracking, mentally, emotionally. They're just stressed out. They don't understand what to do, and then they search for conversations like this, because they're looking for answers that they're not getting yes anywhere else. So what? Since we, since I've launched next level soul TV, our streaming platform, you know, we are in the media business, right? And this interview show is obviously, this podcast is in the media as well. There has been a tremendous amount of change in media, but in media and social media. But where do you see the traditional like, news organization, studios, television, movies?

Annette Bricca 1:03:54
I think this is it. I'll tell you that. So I think you're a genius without recognizing that you're a genius, because all the work that you do as you've been doing, you know, because you know, even though you have an end goal or end plan, let's say sometimes we don't even have it, or it's constantly evolving. So as you do your daily work, and it builds and builds and builds, I think this is it. I think that as because think about this, you're able to be as successful as you are and do new things that nobody has even thought of, because you are in line with with the changes that are occurring. Because, you know, you're on the cutting edge. You see, you know people that are are into the latest Apple phone or whatever it is like you can envision things before anybody else can. So you're right that you, you know, you got fired from those two jobs early in your life, and you had the life to build this up, because you're, you're it, you're our new media. I don't think that people are gonna watch, you know, the shows that we had been watching are no longer gonna exist because people want, they need to calm down. The reason why? People come to people like you and watch this because they don't want to examine anymore. Their psychiatrist is not working, talking to the neighbors, not working, and hearing different experiences from different people in a way that does hit the mark, that hits home, that is a game changer. Is where I believe it will be. So I feel like this is how things are going to be. It's going to be more like this. I don't think that there's going to be many, even news stations on it, like a CNN won't even be around much longer because people, they're Die Hard CNN. People, once they have a mental breakdown, okay, they're they're not going to have the they can't watch CNN anymore, so

Alex Ferrari 1:05:39
They're barely I mean, there's ratings,

Annette Bricca 1:05:41
Well, that's what I mean. But even whoever's number one pretty soon, because we can't take it on anymore, because we can't manage our own life. So now people like watching you is like having a nice cup of warm, hot tea in a nice warm blanket. You know when, when you're your fevers coming down and you're not, you're like, you feel like I got this. I'm recovering. I'm getting better. I am because, you know, when you're really sick, you're like, I can't ever imagine feeling healthy again. You know, I'm in the middle of the flu. I'm on day three. I can't walk to the refrigerator. How am I going to get in my car and drive to work? But pretty soon, once you start feeling better, you're like, oh okay, to my old self. So I think your show these kind of things will put like news organizations out of business because it is so sensationalized and but, and people kind of like it the drama, but because we are now not able to manage our own lives, we can't watch it any longer, because it does make us crack. So I think it's it people will feel like everything's being piled on them, but for reason, because universe is like, Okay, we have actually, literally given you guys a long time. Let's get it going. And, you know, like Covid. When we talked about Covid, I said Covid happened for a reason, and I a lot of people died. That was terrible, but it changed the world, because we all got to have dinner together, you know, got to work from home, got to do puzzles. And if you look at it that way, so not just the terrible things that you so I think is the time for us to do some self inventory, to realize what is our trigger points. Oh, my God, I'm so worried about the economy. But why am I worried? Because I have a million dollars in the bank and I don't have it, you know, I don't have a mortgage, and I'm more than okay. So it doesn't matter what the stock market is, okay. So let me just take that off my to do list. I don't need to be freaked out. So if we start doing that for ourselves individually, the panic stops like it's going on, and it just helps us evolve. Does that make sense?

Alex Ferrari 1:07:29
Yeah, it makes it makes all the sense in the world. I mean, well, let me ask you this. Where do you think we talked about news organizations? But how about just movies? The world is changing like right now, the number one streaming platform in the world is, what? What do you think it is?

Annette Bricca 1:07:44
Um, Netflix, no, what? YouTube? Oh, well, you know I was gonna say. The only reason I didn't say that is I was gonna say because I do believe this is it. This is, this is where it's going to be. This to me, I don't think the world yet knows that this is new TV. This is TV, but this is literally it. So I don't believe that. Yeah, there'll be movies, but I don't think they're going to be like movies like we used to see. I think it's going to be movies like documentaries about, you know, everybody's humanity raising their vibration. I don't know that you're gonna see a rom com six years from now. I don't know that the latest it girl will be, you know, like you know, again, working with her, you know, love interest, and they're just friends, and at the end of the, by the end of the two hour movie, you know, they're there. They fell in love. Oh, my God, you're my nobody's gonna care about those things. It's gonna be this, it's gonna be YouTube, it's gonna be you, it's gonna be humanity and us. That's what we're gonna be interested in. I mean, no more rom coms, no. My husband loves me. I said I don't want to feel happy at the end. I wanna, I want

Alex Ferrari 1:08:21
Hallmarks gonna go out of business.

Annette Bricca 1:08:59
But yeah, but think about it, if we're not gonna be vibrating that way, we're because, you know, we're not gonna because people are not in that silly entertain me.

Alex Ferrari 1:09:13
Well, let's put it this way for people to understand, in Roman times, entertainment was the Coliseum.

Annette Bricca 1:09:20
You're on to something where you're about, yes?

Alex Ferrari 1:09:22
So yeah, the Coliseum was the entertainment. What was entertainment, watching people basically be destroyed and ripped apart, literally, limb to limb, cutting heads off. That was pure entertainment. Then that evolved to public hangings and public beatings and all that kind of stuff, crucifixions, all that stuff. That was what that was on Saturday night, yeah, but that would literally brought children, literally children, everyone. Let's take a look at this guy gonna get killed tonight. Yeah. So that was where humanity was vibrating in their frequency at that time. Right, right, if you would show that to people today. Way people, most human beings, would be horrified, horrified by horror, even things from 50 years ago. Yes, yes, 100 years ago, we would be horrified. The lynchings at sale, at Salem, yeah, all that kind of stuff, with the witch trials, all of that, or the Inquisition or that right, would be horrified, because we were now we're vibrating at a higher frequency,

Annette Bricca 1:10:27
So it's unacceptable. We can't even imagine that anybody would have, you know, even in my lifetime. So I recently, again, because now that I have a new TV and I don't know how to use it, I have limited choices, even though my daughter reminds me, I don't I recently watched a series that was on TV like from 15 years ago, but I never watched it. It was really popular. So when I was watching it, I said to my husband, isn't it insane that 15 years ago, they could say this stuff? Oh, yeah. Nowadays, okay, can't say anything, yeah, first of all. And I said, in even us, okay, now you can't do that. So that's why I think that, like the things that we watch, which people are like, well, that doesn't make sense. Well, it does, because you're right. If you go back to Roman times and what we thought was entertainment now we're like, they're okay, horrific. What kind of well,

Alex Ferrari 1:11:19
But that will happen in 100 years. Yes, they'll look back at this time and going, oh my god, right.

Annette Bricca 1:11:24
And I think that that's what I mean. So like, rom coms are like, the silly nonsense. Because again, if you, if you watch something from 10 years ago, you're gonna be surprised, the language they used, the things they were able to get away with on TV, or say or do that now, people are like, that's terrible, because we evolved. So we are going to continue. So the things that we think are acceptable are no longer going to be so everything like that will change,

Alex Ferrari 1:11:49
But it'll happen in a much faster time period. That's why you're saying, like, six years from now, boom, boom, boom, things are gonna change,

Annette Bricca 1:11:55
Yeah and yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:11:57
So then in these other, these other areas of our lives. So religion that seems to be changing.

Annette Bricca 1:12:05
I think religion won't even exist. I think what will happen so when you're like, Annette, come on. Because I think a lot of people now here, when I was a kid, you know, you were identified by your Hey, Are you Catholic? Are you whatever? Yeah. Catholic people say, Well, I How many people do you say I am a recovering Catholic, or whatever, me too. You know, I believe in what I believe, which is a mishmash of odol. I think most people feel that way. So I think that as people die off, you know, like my grandmother, let's say who was Catholic. Okay, she's not here anymore. Pretty soon, when you're a Catholic. Now, all these Catholics from that generation die. Now you have younger people, and they're just mishmash of what I believe. Because don't label me as Catholic or whatever, because I'm different things that won't even exist. You know, recently, a lot of people brought up the Pope to me because, you know, he's sick and all this stuff and and I thought, isn't it interesting that people that don't care, let's say about the Catholic religion any longer, are still so interested in the Pope. But how about other people too? So I so I just, you know, I sat back and I would answer questions or whatever about this. But I thought, pretty soon, you won't, nobody will care about those things because it dies off. We think differently. So I think religion morphs into not sectors of what we call them, but we as a human, as a evolved human being, you know, because pretty soon I'm not gonna, I'm out of business because I no one's gonna need me because they I'm almost putting myself, single handedly, putting myself out of business.

Alex Ferrari 1:13:46
Now, let me ask you this, though, and this is something that I found in my journey. I have been going to psychic since I was in my teens. It is cultural for me as a Latino, it's just embedded, you know, mom's like, you gotta go, right? Yeah, is it a hand something? And she's gonna tell you your future. When I was so young, even in my 20s, the reason why I searched out, and I'd love to hear your thoughts on this, the reason I searched out psychic is because I was terrified of the future. I was terrified of the unknown, right? So I constantly needed reassurance. It's an addiction, almost, about it absolutely that I'm like, What's going to happen? When am I going to meet my per when am I when is my mentor going to show up? When am I going to make it big as a director? When? And I kept, I kept, I kept, because was so insecure and so terrified. Well, as you become more evolved, like I literally now have in my phone some of the greatest psychics in the world.

Annette Bricca 1:14:43
You don't need to. And I think, other than Happy Easter, happy Friday, you don't.

Alex Ferrari 1:14:47
But I never, ever, yes, I've never called you and go and that I need a reading, right? Right? It's I can, and I know you would give me one, right? But it's not something I search anymore.

Annette Bricca 1:14:56
Because you get it now, yeah, it doesn't. The answer thing, if you're constantly needing the answers, okay? Because I tell people, think about this, the reason to come to me is not because I'm your therapist. You because You are struggling so in one area or two areas so much, and you are trying to do self inventory, you can't get there. So you need a little help. If you have a headache, you don't want to take a Tylenol. Maybe you need to, so you'll take one and, and, okay, usually, whatever. So you may need me, because you can't get past this hump. And so let's let me help you. Okay, that's fine. But other than that, everything you need is within you, because, because, again, when these challenges take place, instead of being like son of a, uh, why is this happening? Remind yourself it's happening for a reason. And now dig deep and say, Okay, if I don't know the reason why it's happening, because we might not know the reason for years, right, or until we're on the other side, which is fine, so let's not worry about the reason. But now let's say, How am I going to manage this? Because this is I'm not. I don't time to get mad, get confused, or poor me, this is because change is happening so now. So be ready, okay, because the universe has been telling me for a while. So be ready, because all the answers are within and they are so I, you know, I tell people reason all that, not not well always, but more recently, listen, they're like, When can I call you again? I go, Well, you can call me anytime, anytime you need me, but you also don't need to call me because, again, I am not telling anybody, usually, anything they don't already know. I tell people all the time, remind them. The person that is the most surprised in the reading is me, because I don't know you. So I'm like, Whoa, you're doing what you know, but you know because you're confirming it. So what you're surprised about is the future things I'm telling you, but you don't even need me to tell you, because the future is still going to happen and you'll know when you're supposed to know. So I tell people, you can contact me whenever you need to, but you don't need to, and try to manage the panic that you have that feels like you're incapable of getting to the other side, because you absolutely are.

Alex Ferrari 1:15:29
But the thing, the biggest message of this entire conversation is something that I preach constantly to people, is that the power is within you. I mean, yeah, our one of the Ascended Masters, right there, Jesus said that, like everything I could do, you could do more. But the thing that that I find so fascinating is, when you are the people's pain, and now we're going into Buddhism, people's pain is because they associate or give their power away to things outside of them. Yes, so it's their career. It's that person. It's that thing of my car. If anything happens to my car, my life is over. Anything happens in my job, life is over. This person leaves me like my job's over. If the economy, the stock market crashes, right? So they've given their power to the outside world, which is an absolute recipe for disaster within your life, because you can't control anything outside of you. Our ego says we can right, but we truly have no power other than how we think yes and what is inside of us. So that's why, when you see these masters who have had the pleasure of interviewing and speaking to and being in the presence of you see these masters who are completely grounded within themselves, right? And all the answers are within themselves. They're able to tap that stuff in, then the outside world, literally, there could be in the middle of a storm, and they are just as peaceful.

Annette Bricca 1:18:30
Listen, they're locked they're sitting there underneath a tree. A hurricane is going on, and there's not a hair that's moving on their head, because it's not affecting them. You know, I have an interesting, you know, embarrassing thing to admit. I so I came into Austin for a few days to come on the show. But I also came because I was going to do a photo shoot. I, you know, don't even take selfies. So I thought, you know, what? Gonna up my game? I get a new website, you know, she said, You got to get a couple pictures. I said, I don't have any shows. You have a professional well, so I did it. So I had this whole photo shoot thing, whatever I show up yesterday, and everything just went south. I said to somebody that came with me that, you know, accompany me. You know, my business manager, let's say I said, in the morning, it's gonna go wrong. It's not gonna I go. We're gonna actually be back in the hotel, and you're gonna be my photographer. Sad. Stop stop thinking negative. I go, Listen, yeah, I said, Listen, nobody wants to work better than me. It's just not going to I just know.

Alex Ferrari 1:19:27
So you knew, so you knew before you walked in that there was something. You didn't know what was going to go wrong, but you knew something that was right,

Annette Bricca 1:19:33
And because So, and I think the reason, again, the universe is telling me is, like, have a game plan, because you're still going to get your pictures. She's not gonna give them the way you did, but, but what's interesting is that not only did it Okay, so that happened, but then something happened with me and this person, the photographer, that okay, so not only did it not go right, then there was like money involved, and so the whole thing went south. All right. So that person. Not going to do it. We made mate shifts, whatever, which are fabulous, and now we have this hanging money issue. And I was really angry about it last night. And I don't really get angry about money. And I and I kept thinking, i How come this person doesn't see obviously, what I see, you owe me my money back. You know, I paid for service. You didn't provide it. I used to get my money back. I said this morning on the way over here to my business manager. So, you know what? Maybe the person needed money. So maybe when that, listen, two days ago, before JonBenet taught me love, would not have been thinking that,

Alex Ferrari 1:20:33
Annette wouldn't it does happen to me a lot of times, too, in my life, I think it happens to a lot of people that there's a money issue. Yes, you don't get a refund. Yes, right? You borrow, let someone borrow, and doesn't come back. All that stuff, as I started to do, I started to let go of those things. And as if, you start to let go of these things in love, then you get back. Three fold, four fold. It's just the way it is. If you get caught up in the moment, you just gotta go. Just trust, right, right? Faith, right, will be fine, right, right?

Annette Bricca 1:21:03
Because, like, when I had that feeling in the morning, it was gonna work out, and I was resigned to it, so I so I actually went through the motions. I went to the location. I actually said to the Uber guy, stick around. I didn't even know how to get him to stick around. He's like, Oh, it's a whole thing with the app. I got hold on. So my business manager, did I go? Can you wait 11? It's gonna take less than 11 minutes I get but I gotta see this through. So I did. I wasn't panicked, because I just knew it was gonna happen. But then last night, the money thing bothered me, until I realized that, wait a minute, let me stop this, because whatever's gonna happen with the money is gonna happen. Who cares? I'm here for a reason. I got what I needed, and then let that go. And and you'll be fine. And, and so, so I learn every day, you know, I think I'm like, oh, but, but it because it's an opportunity to look at it differently. And it changed my mood. It changed everything because it reminded me, because I because I didn't feel like, Oh, I got screwed. I felt like, think about this. Maybe that person, for whatever reason, needed the money because, you know, we don't know where money is gonna come from, so I, so I book a service. They get the money in the moment, you know, whatever. That answers their thing. Maybe now they can't pay me back, whatever. Maybe I don't, or they will, or, who knows, whatever. So instead of me getting so freaked out about what's gonna happen, let it. Let it just go for now, sure, because it and and it changed everything, because now I don't even, I don't say I don't care, because, by the way, it would like my money back, but am I not get it back, or whatever,

Alex Ferrari 1:22:29
It might come back in another way. Yes, right? Well, I mean, arguably, being on the show you're going to do, okay? Agreed, agreed. I think there might be some energy coming towards you correct? I agree. So it all works. It all works out in the way it's supposed to,

Annette Bricca 1:22:45
Right and to not. It reminded me, don't let my feathers get ruffled. So even though it was a transaction I was involved in, and then I got mad and whatever. And I'm not saying don't get mad

Alex Ferrari 1:22:56
If, in 50 years, does it matter? If on your deathbed. Does it really matter?

Annette Bricca 1:23:01
It doesn't even matter now, right? You know, it didn't even and again, took me, this this whole Jean Benet thing, to remind me that even that doesn't matter. Who cares. It doesn't matter because I can still do what I need to do. It doesn't matter. And let it go, and then let's see what happens. And you're right,

Alex Ferrari 1:23:22
So I'm gonna ask you the same questions I asked you before. I love to see if the answers are different that I ask all my guests, what is your definition of living a fulfilled life?

Annette Bricca 1:23:32
I don't know what I said last time, but now I say is living from love.

Alex Ferrari 1:23:36
If you had a chance to go back in time and speak to little Annette, what advice would you give her?

Annette Bricca 1:23:40
Same answer, well done. And love spread love.

Alex Ferrari 1:23:45
How do you define God or Source?

Annette Bricca 1:23:47
Love.

Alex Ferrari 1:23:48
What is love?

Annette Bricca 1:23:50
I can't even put it into words. I think before I thought I was, you know, an expert, because it's again, I didn't know what love was until Jean Bane put love in my heart for my kidnapper, which is not words, she put a feeling. Yeah, you know, just like my dog, when you see my when I see my dog, I It's a feeling. My love for my dog is what I it's not the words, oh, here, come here, Fred. It's how I feel. So when I felt love for my kidnapper, it was my feeling. So it's, there's no words, it's a feeling. Does that make sense?

Alex Ferrari 1:24:27
Makes all the sense. Yeah, if you could ask God or Source one question, what would it be?

Annette Bricca 1:24:32
I don't think I would. I would say. I don't think I would ask a question, because I think that I do believe that things happen the way they're supposed to, and if God in source wants me, no, they'll let me know. I think I would, I would. I would just say, thank you. I would ask the question. I would say, so you know, thank you for letting me even talk to you. And I would say, thank you. I don't, I don't want to ask that question.

Alex Ferrari 1:24:58
And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

Annette Bricca 1:25:01
Love.

Alex Ferrari 1:25:03
I feel a theme here.

Annette Bricca 1:25:04
Yeah, listen, if I think I have to go back and re watch the first one with you, because I think it's very different. Don't think I was,

Alex Ferrari 1:25:12
Oh, it's a very different energy than I was. You feel it? Oh, yeah, there's no question,

Annette Bricca 1:25:16
Can you but Okay, interesting, silly enough. And this, you know, obviously I say, Do you not say I'm don't know how I'm spreading.

Alex Ferrari 1:25:24
I'll tell you, from my point of view, yeah, I'm fairly sensitive to these things you you, who you are is not changed. This, this kind of crazy East Coast energy that you bring into the room, which I adore. Thank you. It's not changed, right? But the feeling is a little different. The Yeah, the approach. And people can go back and watch the other episode and see for themselves, I think the energy that you were bringing the other time, it's the same person, same kind energy, same loving energy, but it's just different. There's a shift that happened within you that your approach to things is a little bit different. So I can feel that different approach, yes, and that different energy that's unspoken, right, right? It truly is. But it's not like you've changed as a human being. You're literally the same person, yes, but the way the energy is coming through, the way you're transmitting it, is completely different. So like when I go into a meditation, I'll walk in, I'll go in, and I'll, you know, do an hour and a half, maybe two hours of a meditation. I'll walk out of my office and go into the house, and I see my girls will come to me and they're like, Oh, you just meditated, right? Because it's they, yeah, I'm not. I'm no different.

Annette Bricca 1:26:40
But they it emits it. It's just they get it. It's you can coming out of your pores. Yeah, yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:26:46
You can sense it, and that's what I sense with you. It's not something I can I can't grab onto it, right? But I can feel it

Annette Bricca 1:26:53
Because it's a feeling, because it's different. And again, that's why I said, you know, how would I describe love? You can't describe love because it's a feeling, and that's the difference of and so going forward, not see again, because now, once you have it, I don't think you can have it, because if I could love my kidnapper, and honest to God, not only want to send him up, but actually love him, because I'm Now seeing it from his point of view. I no longer, which I didn't ever do. I didn't have empathy, but I but love makes you do all those things. I feel sorry for him.

Alex Ferrari 1:27:30
I'll tell you what I mean. My my first book, which is shooting for the mob, the movie about me making a $20 million movie for the mob. That gangster, you know, that mafia guy was probably one of the most traumatic things I went through a year with this psychopath, sociopath that was throughout my life, right? Right? Yeah, my for a year, I I'd say, within the last few years, I've actually, like, if I ever saw him again, I would give him a hug. I would thank you for putting me through what you put me through, because it made me who I am. And I wouldn't have gone down the path of opening up my first podcast trying to help filmmakers, because I had been hurt so badly in the process of trying to make a film that I wanted to help other filmmakers, which then, of course, evolved into what we're doing today. I wouldn't have gone down that path, you know, if I would have made it big, then let's say I would have made that $20 million money and all of a sudden, all this, and I would have gone down the Hollywood path and worked with all the big stars, and I would not be here, right? It just wouldn't have happened. So I'm very grateful for him, and I do if he's even still alive, I still wish him nothing but love, because I know he's in a lot of pain. He walks through a lot of pain. Yes, he's a very hurt human being, right?

Annette Bricca 1:28:47
Because you can go from your pain and now you you see it from his point of view, and you empathize for him, and if your love for him, it changes your life. It changes the way you think about things.

Alex Ferrari 1:28:59
Would you think it's almost like having a mini life review,

Annette Bricca 1:29:02
I would 100% agree. And I think I've said that to So Christine, who's with me, who is my business manager, I said, I think I actually said those words within two days, you know, Austin changed me. I did a lot of great drinking and eating and a lot of food, but had an epiphany here. And it is, you know, something that I'll never forget in my entire life, because, because it was, like a life review, it took, like, these little nuggets of things that have happened here are so transformative that I feel completely different. You know, I have something even like, on the fight here, okay, I knew something big was gonna happen when I was here. Didn't know exactly what I mean. I I thought, Oh, I'm gonna do the JonBenet thing. But I wasn't really even getting it. Then at one point at the end of the flight, it was, like, really, really, really choppy. Like, so much so, like, even the the pilot seemed nervous. Like I even thought that not a great sign. Right? But you know what? I felt I actually was reading something, and I was so like, could care less that I thought, well, if, if I die now, like, I actually thought, like, actually could happen, no problem. Didn't even, I wasn't, like, even scared for a moment. And I actually yeah, because I was just like, and then I thought, wait a minute, it actually this could happen. You're not afraid. And then I realized, like, okay, get Hey, get ready for the next three days in Austin, because this is just the beginning of the change. And then somebody that I was with last night said, Hey, did you hear about that crazy flight? My boss, I was on that same fight. They're like, she goes, That scared the holy out of my house, out of my boss. I go, actually, I was on the same flight. I go, I wasn't afraid at all, and she was what was terrible. He's right. He's not exaggerating, but, but again, it reminded me of how this big transformation was going to take place here.

Alex Ferrari 1:30:57
It's, it's as beautiful, where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing?

Annette Bricca 1:31:02
At annettebricca.com. Once again, I'm in the middle of changing my website so you can also go to arspirits@aol.com for now, to find me.

Alex Ferrari 1:31:14
Is that an email?

Annette Bricca 1:31:15
That's an email address.

Alex Ferrari 1:31:16
Oh, God bless you. I can't believe you actually said that.

Annette Bricca 1:31:19
Yeah, because my, unlike you, my website game isn't where it needs to be. And so at any moment, you know, I'd like to say that I, you know, I'm Kim Kardashian, and I crashed the internet. I don't know if I crashed it, if I just crashed your website that nobody can get on. So that's why I said it. But I don't care if I get a zillion emails, because I'm flattered. That's great. I want to help people. So, you know,

Alex Ferrari 1:31:51
Great, yeah, yeah, and you do and you have on your website, you can book sessions with you and all that stuff, right? Yeah, yes. All right, well, I think you'll be okay.

Annette Bricca 1:32:02
I agree, and I want to thank you for, you know, the opportunity coming here, of course, and being here in person, and it's beautiful, and it's feels great.

Alex Ferrari 1:32:10
And do you have any parting messages for the audience?

Annette Bricca 1:32:12
I feel ridiculous like, love each other, love yourself, feel love. You know, love is love is

Alex Ferrari 1:32:20
It's all you need. As the Beatles

Annette Bricca 1:32:23
answer, I mean, again, it seems so hokey, but it's true.

Alex Ferrari 1:32:26
You're just like, you're just talking about Beatles songs at this point,

Annette Bricca 1:32:31
I should just get the lyrics out and just like, whatever John I do, I should just be like, okay, hold on, okay. But you know your

Alex Ferrari 1:32:38
Love is all you need, like,

Annette Bricca 1:32:42
Because it actually is the truth and and I didn't know it, know it until now, and I do know it, and I do think it's will change my life. And again, you know everything I said about the Jomon a thing is not again. I am not looking for any problems, any praise. I don't want to get anyone in trouble.

Alex Ferrari 1:32:58
It's the message of love,

Annette Bricca 1:33:01
100% and that is all that I'm trying to say I am not that is profound message of love,

Alex Ferrari 1:33:08
Annette it is always a pleasure talking to you. And thank you so much for coming down here, and I appreciate the work you're doing to help wake in this planet.

Annette Bricca 1:33:15
So I appreciate you. Thank you.

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