How to PREPARE the SOUL for TRANSITION and FIND PEACE Before DEATH with Michael Tamura

In this luminous conversation, we welcome Michael Tamura, a spiritual teacher and clairvoyant healer whose near-death experiences have granted him profound insight into the essence of life, death, and the creative power of the soul. His story is one of surrender, laughter, and divine clarity—a reminder that awakening often begins where the body falters and the spirit remembers.

Before his awakening, Michael endured immense physical pain caused by a rare form of traveling gout—an agony that rippled through every joint and bone in his body. He describes it as if “platoons of warriors” were waging war within him, their weapons made of glass and fire. One day, overwhelmed by the pain, he called out to God, not in anger or desperation, but in pure exhaustion. In that moment, his soul was lifted from the body and guided into a radiant boardroom of celestial light. Seated before five enlightened beings, Michael was told he had already accomplished everything he had set out to do in this life. “You can stay here with us or return to help others,” they said. His heart, always attuned to service, chose the latter.

When he returned, the pain was still there, but something had changed—the center of his being was quiet, expansive, and utterly free. A gentle voice whispered in his ear: “Go to your computer and look up uric acid.” It was divine guidance through the simplest of means. The healing came not just through medicine but through humility, through his willingness to trust the small miracles that followed. It was as if the universe itself had taken him by the hand, saying, “You are not alone.”

Two years later, after fulfilling his final worldly commitments, Michael experienced another profound crossing. During a birthday celebration, he was asked to make a wish. Closing his eyes, he found himself surrounded by silence and a golden radiance—the unmistakable energy of Christ. “I would like to embody the Christ more,” he whispered to the divine. Moments later, his heart gave out, and he left the body once again. But this death, too, was not an ending—it was an expansion. In the infinite stillness of that realm, he understood that even death was part of the great cosmic laughter, the playful dance of Spirit awakening to itself.

He recalls the words that stayed with him after returning to the body: “Everything you’ve ever held on to is past. Let it go. What matters now is what you wish to experience next.” This truth became the foundation of his teaching—that each of us is a creator, born of the same light that moves the stars. To suffer, to love, to awaken—these are not punishments or rewards but expressions of the infinite creative pulse that we call life.

In this conversation, Michael Tamura reminds us that spirituality is not about escaping the body or transcending pain, but about dancing with it—about recognizing that even the darkest nights are filled with unseen light. His laughter is contagious, his humility grounding. “You are the life of the party,” he says, “so let the party begin, even if you’re dying, even if you’re in pain. Don’t let that stop you from celebrating the miracle of existence.”

SPIRITUAL TAKEAWAYS

  1. Suffering can be sacred when met with awareness. Every pain—physical, emotional, or spiritual—is an invitation to return to the eternal stillness within, where no suffering truly resides.

  2. We are co-creators with the divine. Life unfolds not by accident but through our conscious intention. As Michael says, “What matters is what you wish to experience next.”

  3. The soul never dies—it transforms. Death is not the extinguishing of the light but its expansion into infinity.

Through his gentle humor and radiant clarity, Michael teaches that life’s trials are simply mirrors reflecting the vastness of who we are. His story encourages us to trust the intelligence of the universe—to recognize that the same divine power that moves galaxies also breathes through us, guiding us home to love.

Please enjoy my conversation with Michael Tamura.

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Follow Along with the Transcript – Episode DE088

Alex Ferrari 0:00
Tell me what your life was like before you died.

Michael Tamura 0:10
I had a severe form of gout. It's excruciating. I wouldn't wish that pain on my worst enemy or the worst criminal in the universe, or whatever it was just I had a pretty high pain threshold, but that did me in later on, I found out traveling gout, and it went all over my body, not just in one little joint, like most people get it. And here's the funny part, I was a vegetarian, and I didn't drink alcohol, I didn't smoke, I didn't eat, you know, fatty meats and all those kind of things, I've been always leading a very healthy life as far as that part at the time, it's like everything about gout was, oh, usually middle aged men who's overweight, drinks a lot of red wine and other alcohol, eats prodigious quantities of beef, fatty meats and things like that. And for me, it was like I didn't do any of this yet. I had this one that's traveling out. It's everywhere, down into the very like the sutures of the skull. I think something was going on even with my the little bones in the inner ear. So it was just beyond painful. And it's like there were these platoons of warriors inside my joints and everywhere else with shards of glass weapons just chopping away at it all at the same time. So I couldn't get into any kind of a position, you know, nothing relieved any of it. So it's either standing, lying down, sitting. Nothing worked, nothing helped. And so Raphael when had to go to town to get something. And while she was gone, I'm kind of curled up in the on my bed, and I'm just going, I don't know if I could make it, I don't know how much longer, and this has been going on for a while. So I finally go, Hey, God, I really don't know how much longer I can handle this. And instantly I'm literally escorted out of my body and transported to this place that I kind of compared to the super high end board meeting room, long wooden table top, very polished and very nice, rich kind of an environment. And I'm greeted by five great, magnificent beings all sitting around this front one part of the table, and the being that escorted me to that place sat at the end of their little U shape kind of thing. And there's an empty seat right at the corner next to the head of the table, and they're all welcoming me. And, I mean, it was just this, like a total homecoming. Welcome home, and I'm going, Whoa. These are some magnificent enlightened beings. I knew them from working on a spiritual level. They all said, Well, you're done. You've accomplished far more than you've contracted for for this lifetime. So you're completely done. You have a choice. You could stay with us here and continue your spiritual work from this side, or, if you like, to you can go back to the body and, you know, continue your work there. I was completely neutral. I had no desire one way or the other. I had no whatever. It's just like. And then I got this brilliant idea, and it's very dangerous when I whenever I have a brilliant idea. And so I I'm looking at these five magnificent beings, and I'm going, Wow. I said, well, in your wisdom, what would you say would be the best decision for me to make? Is what would be of greatest benefit, not just for myself, but for anyone involved in my life or involved in some way, for me to stay here with you guys and continue or go back. And instantly they all together. They said, if you go back, you'll be of so much more benefit than if you stay here. Says, Okay, that's all I needed to hear. Send me back. And so the same being that escorted me to that meeting escorted me back to my body. When I came back, it's just like I'm gasping and all that, and I'm just going, Whoa. But before, when I was turning around out, going out of this meeting space, I thought, oh, until then, when you're in spirit, the body doesn't mean a thing. It's, there's no time, there's no bodies, there's no world. That's, it's just like I'm just there in beingness. But the minute I start to put my attention back to returning to the earth, returning to the body, I have this body with enormous pain, excruciating pain, that won't go away for weeks. So I turn around before I'm being escorted completely out. I said, you know, if I'm going to be of any benefit to anyone, even to myself, I'm going to need some help in healing so that I won't have to be in that excruciating pain all the time, and they're. Very economical with their words. It's like, fine. That's the last thing I heard them say, Fine, and I'm being escorted back to my body. But when I once I got into my body, the same voice that I heard say fine, came into my ear and said, you know, go to your computer and look up uric acid. And I said, I could practically have a PhD in uric acid. Looked at I researched everything online I could possibly find. Talk to doctors, I talked to healers, I talked to everybody. They said, just go do it. I go do it. Turn on the computer, look at it, and, you know, I put the search word in there, and all the same stuff I've already read 100 times pops up. Then something's flashing on this side. You know that where the advertisements are? And I see at the top of it, oh, it says, Go cure. And it was a new ad. I never seen it before, so I click on to it, go to the site. And the company was so new at the time, the founder, there's a little blurb of his story, which was, I thought sounds as bad as mine, and but he somehow found a solution. It's all natural. So then I click onto that and to read some more. And then there's at the bottom, he says, yeah, if you have a question, send me an email. So I immediately write a, like a three page email about what's been going on and what I've done, and nothing's worked. He answers me in like, less than 15 minutes, which was unheard of, you know, on online something. So then I said, Okay, here it is. And he goes, Oh, one of the things I mentioned was nothing worked, and it's related to what I eat. So I was down to even Iceberg lettuce with nothing on it made it worse. That's unheard of in any of the literature, right? So I decided I got the another brilliant idea of, Oh, I'll go on a water fast. I like fasting. He wrote back immediately, saying, Get off your fast right now. It would be better for you to eat half a cow and drink a gallon of wine right now for the gout, then do a water fast. And he explained, it says, well, uric acid comes from the breakdown of purines, and this is what happens when you eat. You know, really rich purine rich foods. But it even happens more when your muscles break down from fasting. You know, when you don't have enough calories, it starts to take it out of your and it gets in, it just floods your blood with with that. It didn't cure me, but it started to alleviate but it still took a few weeks, but it started to alleviate it. And then at that point, I went to one of my advanced students, who happened to be a incredible medical doctor and osteopathic doctor, and specialized in nutrition therapy. So I went to her, and I consulted, and she said, Oh my God. She got my blood test. So she gave me all these supplements, and slowly I just started to not get the acute stuff. Well, when I came back from the first one, I was told, in no uncertain terms, your slate is cleared, the deck is clear. You don't have any obligations. You don't have to honor any past commitments. You're done with all that. This is a brand new contract. And so it was literally like being fully reborn, except into the same body instead of a baby body. But I told them, yeah, I but I do have some prior commitments. I want to fulfill them, because most people won't understand that. And they said, well, it's your call. You call the shots and so, but we're just letting you know this is what you have to do. I said, yeah, let me. Let me finish up our commitments. It took me exactly two whole years to finish all the past commitments to my satisfaction. And I remember the day that happened. I said, I'm done with the old stuff. I can move on to a new level, which I have to create. And that's one of my favorite parts of life, is creating the new stuff. I was very much looking forward to it. I said, Oh yeah, I think I even told Rafael, I'm done with the old now. It's gonna be a whole new space. I can start on that. The next day, I had a heart my first heart attack and my second near death experience. At that time, when I had my first heart attack, I was a vegan, vegetarian, no dairy products, no cooked anything. This has been my medical part of my life. From the time as a kid, I get taken to doctors and they poke and prod and give me this type of medication. Nothing ever fit anything, and the heart attack comes from in retrospect, I gave a talk at this three day conference on the Sunday morning that night, we get invited by a friend of ours who has a healing center, a healer in the next, next state over above, but it's only like an hour and a half drive to his place from our where we lived at that time in Northern California, and it was a. Birthday party for another spiritual teacher and author who I didn't know at the time, but I thought, okay, hey, you know something different to do, and then we'll see some of our friends and stuff. We went. It was a good party. And everything great people. And when the time to the candle birthday cake with the candles, they braiding off for this man. And everybody's singing. We're all singing. And wish him happy birthday. He blows out the candles and everything. And next they started all over again. Here's another person coming with a cake with a forest fire of candles on it. And then I start to notice they're coming. She's coming to me with the cake, and somebody says, Yeah, we just found an hour ago that your birthday is three days from today, and so we decided we have to include you too. So we got another cake. She brings it over and she goes, Oh, wait a minute. You can't blow on it. You have to close your eyes and make your wish. I said, Oh, yeah, okay, so I close my eyes and I'm going complete blank, right? There's really nothing I could think of to wish until my mind is completely blank and totally still. I can't hear anybody or anything. It's just quiet then in the middle of but there's this golden glow that just starts getting bigger and bigger and bigger. And I can tell, oh yeah, that's the Christ energy. And then I thought, Oh, that would be a good wish. Good, great birthday wish. Yes, I would like to embody the Christ more. So I made that wish, opened my eyes, and she goes, Okay, now, blow up the candle. Blow up the candles. Everybody starts singing, all celebration. I thought that was that. Meanwhile, Raphael was talking to the host, distance away from me, and she didn't tell me this until I came back after I came back from my second near death experience and the hospital and everything else. Just remember, Oh, those, everything you've ever held on to is past. It's already done, been there, done that. So drop it, let it go, and then what's important is not how horrible of a life you had up to now. What's important is what would you like to experience next? That's when you have to trust your own internal, intrinsic creative power. You're made out of this creative power we call that life. You're the life of the party. So let the party begin, even if you're dying, even if you're experiencing pain, don't let that get you down.

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