Indigenous Channeler Connects with Beings from 2300 with Pamela Aaralyn

Pamela Aaralyn 0:00
I freaked out. I absolutely freaked out. I thought I was going crazy.

Alex Ferrari 0:03
And how are you able to channel the future?

Pamela Aaralyn 0:07
So you duplicate a light, body version of yourself and circumvent time I make friends, it takes me days, weeks, months, a long time to make friends, and then eventually they'll talk to me. You have brought forth, a period of time, everything that you no longer want because it isn't serving you is rising.

Alex Ferrari 0:30
Is there any advice you can give us?

Pamela Aaralyn 0:32
It can't be done alone. But you're not alone. We are future versions of you visiting from our future into our own past to help you that it's time for change. It can't be done alone, but you're not alone.

Alex Ferrari 0:50
Now, before we jump into this episode, if this conversation resonates with you, please, like subscribe and share this with whoever you feel that needs to hear it. Your support helps us keep bringing this information out into the world and helps us awaken this planet. Thank you. I'd like to welcome back to the show, returning champion, Pamela Aaralyn, how you doing Pamela?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:30
Oh, thank you so much, returning champion. That's like,

Alex Ferrari 1:35
I'm gonna make a t shirt one day. Everyone keeps asking me to make a returning champion t shirt, because that's fine, but thank you so much for coming back on the show. Our last conversation did pretty well. People really liked it. A little bit of a little bit of energy came your way afterwards, right? For sure. Well, you were a very unique channel. We've talked to a couple of channels on the show. And your ability to be able to channel the future of actually beings from the future, and not beings, but like, just human beings that happen to be in the future. And was really interesting because people asked me afterwards, like, do you think it's real? Does she make it up? I'm like, she's a great writer, because the top I mean, the way that, the way I asked some very deep questions that you didn't know I was gonna ask you. Don't prepare. We don't. No, no, no, we haven't. We haven't done anything other than we're gonna just have a conversation today. And at the time, I was asking you detailed questions about politics of the future and the healthcare industry of the future and all this kind of stuff. And the way was all laid out was so specific. I was like, my god, sounds like a sci fi Yeah? You know, it's like Stephen King wrote this, yeah, you know, it was pretty amazing. So

Pamela Aaralyn 2:44
Headed in that direction, apparently.

Alex Ferrari 2:46
Well, we'll talk more about that. We'll talk more about that in a few minutes,

Pamela Aaralyn 2:50
But I'll say for people who say that I have been struggling to write a book for quite a few years. Now, I'm a terrible writer, actually. So better channel than writer for sure,

Alex Ferrari 2:59
Right! And have you had you just say, Hey guys, can you help me write this thing?

Pamela Aaralyn 3:02
Yeah. But even, like, the putting it together, I have horrendous add. It's such a spectrum part of my nature. So trying to write has been a problem for a while now. So not a great writer, and I don't remember anything. That's the other thing about channeling. Like we don't remember, it's hazy. Most of the stuff we say, and like, days, weeks, months later, oh, yeah, we should go listen to that. We said something interesting. We should learn from it. And that's how channels operate.

Alex Ferrari 3:27
Well, luckily, we record these things. That was good.

Pamela Aaralyn 3:30
I never know what I said until, like, the next day.

Alex Ferrari 3:34
Well, it was really interesting when we were because I'd never had a channel. Who can channel the way you do and how you did it was really interesting. Can you explain to people what you're doing when you check because you have a few beings and a few groups that you channel now, yeah, at the time, I think, was that the only thing you were channeling at that at that moment, the the future? Or did you

Pamela Aaralyn 3:53
No we also did the Galactic Council.

Alex Ferrari 3:53
We did the Galactic Council right? And now you do another one. What's the other new the new one, who's very spicy?

Pamela Aaralyn 4:01
Oh, orleg, yes, he's he's always worked with me, but I've kind of held him from the public, because he can get so spicy and authentic and raw and but I thought that you would love him. Oh yeah, and he's been a hit on my channel, so I thought, you know, he can go deep, and he's straight to the practical nature of what we're looking to apply in humanity on a day to day basis, just normal people like us all, for as normal as I can be. But you know what I mean? I normal? Yeah, sitting on a washing machine, as we often say, but yeah, he's just fun, and he's deep, and he's real, and he just cuts right to the chase with answers, and he's so funny. He'll tell you things like, I'll give you this particular specific probability and percentage race. Oh, wow. Like he's mathematical interesting. So, so how are you able to channel the future like you're talking Yeah? Biola, so can you explain it to people who don't understand? So it is a part of the OBE realm, but it has taken the majority of my life to perfect. So what's the. Is not out of body, out of body experience, except in this case, you're not exactly out of body. You begin training with astral travel and remote viewing, but eventually you learn to duplicate your own form in light. So you duplicate a light body version of yourself and circumvent time, and you move into a timeline, a potential timeline, I like to go, like, towards whatever timeline we could possibly be headed towards in the collective of humanity. And you have to solidify that body and make it as real as possible. Like when I first started, I couldn't touch anyone. If someone touched me, I would go back, you know, in it, I couldn't be in their timeline. So it was very unusual. And there's certain karmic rules I have to follow. I can't change anything while I'm there. So in this sense, I can't interfere with anyone's karma. In that sense. But you solidify your form in that realm, while your form, like the Pamela here at the desk, is here. And then I'll solidify another form, taking my light body and trying to densify into another realm. I make friends. It takes me days, weeks, months, a long time to make friends. And then eventually they'll talk to me and start sharing cool things. And then we can bring them into places where public forums, where we can talk to them.

Alex Ferrari 6:12
So you actually solidify yourself in these other so you create another basically another version of you, another timeline, interesting.

Pamela Aaralyn 6:18
But there's what we call the golden core between this body and another body, and that happens in the spirit world too, and that's how you can communicate. It's like having a telephone between, you know, just like you call somebody who's in another realm. That's not much different. You know, that golden line. So it's a Kundalini energy, and that golden cord allows you to transmit information between, say, Me, Pamela, right here, right now, in 2025 and 2030 2300, wherever we go, that cord keeps me alive and between like, like being able to bring messages back to you from that realm.

Alex Ferrari 6:52
So is it kind of like the silver cord that I heard so much about in near death experiences?

Pamela Aaralyn 6:56
Yes, yeah, I always see it as Golden, but I believe that it's the same principle. It's just that when I'm still living, it's golden, but if I were to pass for it would probably be the silver.

Alex Ferrari 7:06
And when this first started happening to you, how did you deal?

Pamela Aaralyn 7:10
I freaked out. I absolutely freaked out. I thought I was going crazy. And I've done a lot, so to make me think of going crazy is quite another thing, you know. And of course, I kept at it. The council said we this is what you're training for. This is where you're going. We always are going to channel through in this way, in trance, but we're going to train you as a by location master. And I was hesitant. I was a little afraid. I was not happy about it, but when the council tells you this is what you're going to do, then you do it. That's the part of being an ambassador in this lifetime, is to do what you're told and try to, um, help and serve.

Alex Ferrari 7:46
And when you, um, when you when you've you were actually looking for this, though, like the bio location stuff, because you don't just wake up one morning go, Oh, I'm like, you were actually studying to do out of body experience. They were training me to do it. Okay? So they're the ones that told you, yeah, you're gonna do this. You're like, no, no, I don't want to.

Pamela Aaralyn 8:03
I was curious. I didn't immediately say no, but it was once I kind of got there and learned how to do it. It was a weird feeling. I had the standard fears that most people have, like, am I going to get stuck there? Because you go through days, weeks, months of time that is condensed and it compresses. Time falls into itself. For lack of better terms, it's compressed. So in that realm, I could be there for as long as I won't want, but I'll only say do that between eight hours, typically, of my sleeping time. I also had to learn not to get tired. It was exhausting at first. You know, unlike trancing, that I'm trained for my locations, tiring. I had to eat a certain diet. I can't, as we were talking about before the show. I can't eat certain things that I want anymore, and I can't drink alcohol. I can't do fun things

Alex Ferrari 8:48
That fried southern Texas food that you made the mistake of eating last night.

Pamela Aaralyn 8:53
Terrible mistake, so bad, you know. And

Alex Ferrari 8:55
It was delicious, though,

Pamela Aaralyn 8:58
I would almost say it was worth it, almost, yeah, but I could never do that like the day of a channeling, because I wouldn't be able to go into a buy location with that density in my body.

Alex Ferrari 9:09
Let me ask you that a question about that with diet, yeah? How does diet affect your ability to channel? So, like, let's say you went out and went to a Brazilian a Brazilian steakhouse where you just continue to eat meat forever. Yes, I remember when I used to eat meat. Yeah. I wish they just like, you know, you ever been to a Brazilian steakhouse? It's been a while, but, yeah, when you flip the green tab, red tab, and they just come in to just shove meat in your mouth, and you're like, and I walk out like, oh, how does, how does that kind of food, or fried food or dense food, affect your ability to channel? Because that's something that people don't really talk about with channels like, you have to have, I imagine you have to have a certain diet. You can't eat a lot of toxins, or a lot of like, you know, fast food or something like that. Because, like, after I eat in and out back in the day. Delicious, though. Yeah, very much. So they're delicious. But I just would like, yeah, oh yeah. Just you feel like, you know, like you hit a truck. So I have to imagine that would affect your ability to raise your frequency, because the food has its own frequency, and it's kind of bringing you down. Am I right?

Pamela Aaralyn 10:17
Yeah, the council always says if you eat death, it's going to affect your physical form. Now it's not going to affect my ability to channel, but you're eating a dense it's dense energy. So then you could possibly be looking at dense information, or bringing in, you know, different type of information that would also be on that same wavelength. Interesting. So it doesn't for me, it's not so much that it affects my ability, it's that it affects my body. And when my body is not acting right, then I don't feel like channeling. I feel bad, you know? So I can't if you eat death, you your body dies faster. It's harder. Now there, I have a belief, because of what the council tells me, that there are certain animals that are under contract. And as many of you know, I am an indigenous woman, so in that state, the Catawba tribe teaches us to also honor animals. So I don't want to be like a food snob, you know, and I want to honor animals that have contracts for that. Now, a lot of vegans might get really mad at me for saying this, but I'm going to keep it real fish, you know, as long as they're not mammals, don't go playing around with dolphins, dolphins and stuff, yeah, and sharks too, are very sentient beings. But with an octopus, you know, the octopi are very sentient beings and smarter than us, quite frankly. And they are, I just really don't want to eat them, because it's like ingesting their karma. So it's more than just like the ethical point of it, it's like you are ingesting the karma of the being. And then how can you see through that? You know not that it's going to affect your ability to channel, but it's going to affect your ability to be in your own karmic path and working towards your dharma and working towards your own

Alex Ferrari 10:18
You mentioned that you were indigenous. I had no idea you were indigenous. Yeah. Oh, really. So can you? Can you go down into the kid? Do you mind talking about that a little bit? Yeah. So where, what's your where's your background?

Pamela Aaralyn 11:31
Catawba tribe, South Carolina. We're called the river people. And I grew up on a river, and my mom trusted, you know, me with the guides. My parents trusted me. So at probably about the age of six, I believe, from what I remember, six or seven, she's walked the river, barefooted and and do your thing. I would swim down the river, talk to the guides the river. Basically raised me. I grew up walking miles and miles of river by myself. And she put me out there at Sun up, and then she said, you can come down at sundown. You would walk in the river. Yeah, I would walk and swim in the river. I'd bring snacks sometimes, or I'd come back if I got hungry. But essentially, speaking, I learned to forage. I learned wild foraging. I learned to eat from the land. I learned not to be afraid of water moccasins and things that could actually hurt me. And I learned to respect animals. But also, we had a freezer full of deer like we did not have guns. We had bows and arrows, you know. And we did the bow hunting, you know. So my dad wanted to teach me the bow hunting, but I just couldn't do it. Every time he'd pull back the bow and I'd see the deer, I'd be like, Pam, you know, go. So that kind of I didn't I feel bad for them, or if he killed him, I'm like, Dad, how could you do this? And he's like, You have to understand and bless the food. And he'd pray over it and bless it, and we'd give thanks. And that I'd have to see him chopping him up and putting it in a freezer. So I still have mixed feelings about it, but that is, he taught me that the tribe teaches that we have contracts with those animals. If you think about it, deer would overpopulate the world. Otherwise,

Alex Ferrari 13:32
There are animals like that. There was a since I'm from the movie business, I always have movie references that movie last the Mohicans, I never forgot that such a beautiful movie. At the beginning of that movie, they were hunting an animal, and when they they finally killed it, they sat there and prayed for it and thanked them. Yeah, just like when you go to McDonald's, but it's just a very different way of looking at food and karma and and how you're doing it. Because, you know, when you were on the on the planes, not, not a lot of whole foods at the time. So you do what you have to you have to do what you have to do to survive, yeah, Buffalo and so on. So it was really, it was really interesting. And how is your indigenous background helped you with this channel, and were you kind of privy to this stuff? Was this stuff. Was this kind of stuff that happened in your family? Like, was your mom?

Pamela Aaralyn 13:35
Yeah, my mom, for sure, yeah. My mom um, more like a prophetic psychic. They my mom has had dreams, and so has them. My grandmother had a lot of prophetic dreams, so we were seen as seers. So my dad, not so much, but the role that he passed on to me was shaman, and that role still haunts me to this very day, because, you know, I'm part white, like my mom is white and my dad is Catawba. So it's like that feeling of it's still like trying to accept my heritage and feel. Like, I'm not appropriating. You know what I mean, even as an indigenous woman, that people still, like, kind of pulled that out there, but you look white. I didn't know you're indigenous. And there's a lot of being a public figure. There are a lot of comments about that. And I'm just like, trying to understand, I have to pass the language down, the songs down, because our tribe is dying. Tribe, there are less than 3500 of us. Oh, really, yeah. So I feel responsible to also pass that down. And there are a lot of seers in the Catawba people, a lot of seers and a lot of healers,

Alex Ferrari 15:28
Really, yeah. So yeah. And that's so, I mean, it's sad in the sense that you can't feel comfortable enough to be out there with your Yeah, you're, you're who you are, yeah, because people comment on it. Yeah, I mean, people talk to me, look white. I love, I love, I love, I always love, people who are like, why are there always, you know, only you know. Why don't you have more people of color on your show? Alex, I'm like, I'm a person of color for God's sake. I've said it so many times. I'm Cuban for God's sakes No, like, what do you what are you talking about? I've never had any issue with that. I'm like, No, I'm Latino. Have no problem saying I'm Latino because I was raised in Miami and so on. But it's fascinating how people act, especially in the today's world. You know, everyone, everyone has a comment for everything, so I think you just got to be you, yeah, and, and I'm but I'm glad, have you even spoken about being indigenous on a show before? No, no, really? Oh, my God, just my own channel. Oh, your own channel. You have spoken about it on your own channel. Yeah? Well, that's, that's great, and I think it's something that I had another indigenous I've had a few indigenous mediums. Have had an indigenous channel on, but I've had an indigenous future, indigenous psychic mediums. And if you look at them, be like, they look, yeah, why? They don't look indigenous, right? And, and, but they're very they wear it on their sleeve, and they're just like, go for it. So I'm hope, I hope this hope helps you. I hope so too. I hope so helps you to be who you are, my dear, be who you are. Absolutely, absolutely,

Pamela Aaralyn 16:57
You're such a great example of that. Well, that encouragement is helpful.

Alex Ferrari 17:01
People always ask that. Like, when we had the Ascension Conference, there was literally people who came like, I came here to make sure Alex was real. What like I want to make sure Alex was a real like, like he's he wasn't playing a person, a personality on the show. Oh no. Like this way all the time. You know, you saw me outside. This is who I am. I'm not a persona. Yeah, that's too hard. Are you kidding me? I'm not a good actor. Come out here and, like, afterwards, I'm like, Ah, like, I can't that's not who I am. So it's fast, it's fascinating. What people Yeah, being in the public eye is not fun, no, it's, it's, it's a job. It really is a job. And for people like us who are out there trying to help people. You know, just at the end of the day, you just got to be you, yeah, and, and at the end of it, I always tell people 100, 100 years from now, no one's gonna care. Yeah, in 500 years from now, if anyone even remembers who you are, it'll be a miracle.

Pamela Aaralyn 17:55
Yeah, maybe even in 100 years from now, you know, you never know like and my main goal is not to allow my heritage, my culture, to die off with me. So hopefully, like, for example, the last time we had an eclipse and I taught my daughter a song and a prayer. I'm like, You're we don't go out during eclipses in our culture. We actually go within. That's beautiful, yeah. And we spend our time like, connecting to the great spirit of air and the great spirit of water, the elemental beings that and our ancestors who support us. And we call our ancestors, and we give thanks, and we go within, and we just okay. We now that the sun's hiding in this way, what's hidden from us. So we pray a prayer to talk about revelations of what could be, what we could be hiding from in ourselves, and that's why we don't watch the Eclipse. So she stopped skating because we're at the rink together that day, and everyone else is watching the Eclipse. And she's like, Okay, I really want to see the Eclipse, but I understand. And so I taught her a song and a prayer, and, yeah,

Alex Ferrari 18:55
I did see it. I'm sorry

Pamela Aaralyn 18:58
That's your culture, and we honored that. And this is, like, it's just our culture is different.

Alex Ferrari 19:02
I remember seeing, I'm old enough to remember seeing Halley's comet. Oh, wow. I actually saw Haley's comment. Yeah, it was, we're the same vintage. Okay, so I was at a school event, a school a getaway, or something like that, and the teacher woke us up at like, two o'clock in the morning, like, Guys, you got to come out and see this. I remember looking through the till and actually watching Halley's were you? I was in sixth grade. Wow. I was in sixth grade. Memory, it was, it was a beautiful I remember seeing Halley's Comet go by. And for people who don't know what the Halley's comet is, we would watch that. We just wouldn't go out on the Eclipse. Yeah, fair enough. Now, you mentioned the Elementals. Can you kind of dive into that from your perspective? As an indigenous woman, what, what the spirit and the energy is of enemy Elementals?

Pamela Aaralyn 19:49
Well, they are taught that they are basically the first beings to they're not embodied, but they are deity, like beings who guard Earth, and they are now a part of inner. Earth and those ancestors respond to them. They taught our ancestors, they taught our people. They taught our ancestors to fish the element of water. Taught our ancestors to fish and to swim and to honor water and to cleanse and bless water. A big part of my culture is to bless water. I brought that into any modality that I teach or anything has been a part of blessing water. Has been a part of it. Prayer is a blessing. Water prayer is purifying and speaking your truth. You know, that's a part of great spirit of sky. So when the thunderstorms would come, you know, we would go outside and think we were afraid. We would go out and get wet. Think the water that's cleansing our land, and because we were farmers, and we had 10 acres of property, and that was our food. So we would we were taught to pray in that state, not in a religious way, but in an ancestral means of gratitude towards, you know, the water that's purifying and fortifying our land and the sun that's nourishing our crops and ourselves and the cells in our bodies. And we were taught to pray as a form of communion and communication, versus seeing the being as, say, a God, a day, an elemental deity. It are the beings who created Earth, and they create us. So they are creator beings. They come from a cosmic source.

Alex Ferrari 21:14
Interesting, yeah. So it's, it's, so there's Gaia, who, it's the mother, the spirit of the of the Earth, yeah. And then there's elementals within, yeah. It's almost demigods, if you will. If you're looking at it from like, the stamp that standpoint, like they're like the demigods inside of Earth, and protectors of earth. And the different, different is it realms or different areas of Earth?

Pamela Aaralyn 21:36
Um, parallel dimensions or realms. Okay, seven Earths.

Alex Ferrari 21:39
Please expand what please let's dive into that.

Pamela Aaralyn 21:43
So, and this is not just in my culture. This is everywhere you talk about this. In Ireland, with the two of the Danon, where people that understood this in the Zohar and Kabbalah teaches the seven realms of Earth as well, and the Seven Kingdoms of God in India and Sanskrit is taught about the seven chakras. So seven is an important number, because there's seven realms and seven realms and seven Earths. So depending upon what you're working through, I suppose, in New Age culture, that would be likened to understanding the qualities of your karma and dharma and what you're working through in your soul contracts, and depending upon your vibration, you could be going in and out of any of those parallel realms. There's a version of you on each of those parallel realms. So that's fun as well.

Alex Ferrari 22:24
So you're talking it's not the multiverse that's that's something else. It's just, this is just the different seven different realms of earth, of Earth, specifically, of Earth itself. So there's seven versions of us, and each of these are doing different things.

Pamela Aaralyn 22:36
There's typically one to like, one that you could be aware of if you meditate and you zone in and you, like, pray about it, our ancestors taught that you could tap into the most mastered version of yourself in one of those seven realms. But there are not just this, not just one. There could be, like, hundreds or millions, like, you never know how many versions of you are out there, right? Because of the multiverse. Yeah. And then that's the the multiverse governs that essentially, but through time, we do have these seven realms that we could be working through according to

Alex Ferrari 23:05
It's interesting too, because I've heard from so many different like from the east, so many yogic ideas. In regards to seven is a really interesting number. There's, there's like seven levels of heaven and and then there was, like 49 so another multiple, multiple of seven that I keep seeing again and again throughout the studies that I do in from Egyptian to hermetic to yogic, they all kind of seem the sevens are really, really important. Yes, number that's why Lucky number seven. I'm not sure what the origin of the Lucky number seven is, but I have to believe it probably comes from something like that.

Pamela Aaralyn 23:41
Yeah, absolutely.

Alex Ferrari 23:44
So would you like to do a little channeling?

Pamela Aaralyn 23:47
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 23:47
Yes. All right. So who do we want to bring in first?

Pamela Aaralyn 23:52
Let's go for Arlik, because I just want you to meet him. I think you guys would have fun together. So Arlik, right now is the primary anthropologist and political guardian. He, like is a peacemaker for all the realms that protect and guard Earth. Okay? So I just love that, and I love how protective he is and how to the point he is. I think you're going to like him. So he's a part of the Galactic Council of Nine. And those are nine streams of consciousness, not beings, but consciousness streams that we could access as humans.

Alex Ferrari 24:20
And how long have you been because he wasn't there from the beginning?

Pamela Aaralyn 24:23
He has been there for from the beginning. For me, I probably met him around age seven, and I awakened to the council at age five. So he's been with me a long time, but I just thought of him more as my personal guide. And then one day, I thought, well, maybe I should share my personal guide. And he was a little harsh, and he was thrilled. He's funny though, oh,

Alex Ferrari 24:43
I think we're gonna get along. We're gonna get along famously, yes,

Pamela Aaralyn 24:46
So I'm gonna trance for a second,

Alex Ferrari 24:46
Alright, and can you explain to everybody how you channel and what's your process?

Pamela Aaralyn 24:52
I'm a trance channel. Okay, so for both by location and trance channeling, I'm going to calm down my breath. I'm going to sit. Enter in all of the different brain waves that I'm going to make them coherent, and I'm going to go into probably about 33 to 35 gamma, hopefully, and we'll see what happens from there. All right,

We have someone new.

Alex Ferrari 25:20
Yes, we do. Hello, hello. How are you?

Pamela Aaralyn 25:23
Are you the infamous Alex that Pamela just so respects

Alex Ferrari 25:28
I can't I guess I am. Yes. Well, welcome. Thank you so much

Pamela Aaralyn 25:32
This is my show.

Alex Ferrari 25:33
Yes, it is. Thank you for having me.

Pamela Aaralyn 25:35
I kid, I kid.

Alex Ferrari 25:39
Thank you so much for being here. My first question to you, Arlik is, why are we going through what we're going through right now as humanity, right now in their consciousness, and why the world seems so chaotic at this time?

Pamela Aaralyn 25:53
You likely have heard this from various channels, in various expressions, but we must say number one, what you're doing is not working. Let's keep it practical. It's just not working for you any further. So you have brought forth a period of time wherein you must express powerfully, truthfully, this chaos is because you have been operating within a power over, power under construct for the last 175,000 years of your current Earth cycle, to be specific. And as that cycle is ending, everything that you no longer want because it isn't serving you in various expansion modules and in your ascension plans collectively is rising, as you say, often the cream rises through the crop, but we will say something else is rising. Maybe the rotten cream is rising so that you can scoop it out and get rid of it and move on.

Alex Ferrari 26:59
So what will what will happen to a lot of people are worried about what's going to happen to them in this next five to 10 years, everything seems to be falling apart. What advice do you have for them?

Pamela Aaralyn 27:12
Well, what's falling apart that isn't falling back together? What looks like it's falling apart. Old versions of you no longer serve, and we are aware that that feels scary. However, say, for example, you had an aging body and you had the capacity to shed it. Some of you called that death, but we don't believe that death is a construct. That is true. Say, when you die, would you want to carry the old, sagging body with the brokenness or the maladies along with you. In the other realm that would feel heavy, would it not? So in this state, you are releasing constructs that don't serve that have conditioned you into dualistic premise, which has been painful. So in this state, you are afraid because you don't know anything else but political systems are crumbling, financial systems are crumbling that don't serve anything that's held you within realms of suffering is falling away, but because you have nothing to replace it with yet that appears frightening to you. That's the only reason you just don't know what's next. And you are masters of habit, shall we say. And when you don't know what's next, when uncertainty plagues you, it might be a good idea to understand that anything is going to be better than what's currently going on. Can we all agree with that anything's going to be better. You just want something different

Alex Ferrari 28:47
As we continue to grow these next five years, it seems like this decade has been very hectic since 2020 with the pandemic that came in. It seems like this decade is supposed to be the decade of change. Will this great awakening, this great shift, the worst of it, be over in the next five years? Or how much longer do we have to deal with this crumbling of the old and rebirthing of the new?

Pamela Aaralyn 29:12
Well, that's up in the air that could last for the next six years or the next 10 we are giving a general estimate that it could be ending in around six to seven years, but you could stretch it out a little bit more if you are particularly insistent upon such

Alex Ferrari 29:30
With everything going on right now in our our world with conflicts and things. Is there any advice you can give us from your point of view on how to resolve conflicts?

Pamela Aaralyn 29:41
Of course, don't make the conflicts personal. Are they your conflicts? Or is it a bunch of misinformation, categorically being spread around by misinformation agents you should learn to connect with the concept of the soul. Many of. You're terrified of that word. You perceive it to be a religious phenomenon. But because religion doesn't have that phenomenon any longer, you begin to understand that no soul requires saving. You understand now beyond it. So why are you still afraid of the words? It's important, meditate, pray, do what you will, to remember the soul and to release ideas and ideologies that create chaos and strife. They aren't your conflicts. For example, an indigenous people around the world. They are aware that they have their own path. When you understand this, the original ancestral beings on your planet who have lived in peace for 1000s of years will tell you that they only had war when they got in someone else's business. How much of someone else's energy field would you like to make personal in your own karmic contracts? Because the more you tie into your own personal ideas of accountability towards the world's chaos, the more you make it yours, and then it becomes yours. And then, of course, you perpetuate these cycles of chaos and unending wars and pain, you must first work on the peace within you and stop making the world's conflicts your conflicts.

Alex Ferrari 31:27
What part does religion have in humanity's future?

Pamela Aaralyn 31:31
Right now, you're still holding on to it to a certain way, because religion, in a sense, keeps you safe. You feel in a sense that there is still a creative being that is responsible for you. But religion is expanding, and over the next 10 years, religion will become more accepting. You will notice certain things happening, certain very strict procedures and ideologies in religion collapsing, you will see things that you would never consider. So the religion will still be here, but it's for people who are on a unique path, just as you are on a unique path. Alex and you may choose it, and then perhaps one day you don't. It's a stage in your awakening, if you will. And some are in a stage of awakening for the next decade or so that they will require such presence. They will require such fundamental ways of seeing God through the lens of separation.

Alex Ferrari 32:33
What is your understanding of the media and how that is going to be changing over the course of the next five to 10 years?

Pamela Aaralyn 32:40
Well, the media requires people to observe it in order for it to be a realistic ideology, for it to affect you in the way that it does, you must still be watching. So I'm making the assumption that perhaps you mean news channels, and that of the such in that sense, who's watching anymore? People are tired of being exhausted by turning on the news and seeing pain. So a lot of people are simply turning off and tuning in to themselves, to nature, to their families, to what's up underneath their rooftops and their family structures. People are tuning in to what they need to understand about the soul and the body. People are finding that they can make life more peaceful if they tune out and tune into something else, which is the soul.

Alex Ferrari 33:35
What is your understanding of our financial systems and where that's going to be going in the next five or 10 years?

Pamela Aaralyn 33:40
There's a split here. So in certain sense, you have about 50% currently of the population who are absolutely terrified for that structure to fall. You have another 50% of the population who wish for it to be gone. But in the sense, because, again, there isn't anything to replace it with, just yet, you are in an in between space. You are in flux. Some of you want digital currency. Some of you are terrified of it. Blockchain technologies are on the rise, but you recently also had some problems with that, as you could perceive so in that case, no matter what system arises, you haven't quite created the systems that you want just yet. That's still in flux. That That means financial systems are going to be around for at least a decade minimum.

Alex Ferrari 34:31
Will there be a currency change?

Pamela Aaralyn 34:34
Of course, of course, there are various currency changes, and there will be more exchanges over the next 10 to 15 years of things that would be considered precious metals. There will be more exchanges of blockchain technologies. There will be more exchanges also of just cold hard cash, as you call it, moving away from digital currencies and towards older systems that feel. Safer to you

Alex Ferrari 35:01
Those older systems being precious metals, things like that?

Pamela Aaralyn 35:04
Precious metals. And in a certain sense, you want that in just cash, but in another sense, you will begin to be creating some sort of curiosity with the energetic mystery of blockchain, and you want that as well.

Alex Ferrari 35:18
What is your understanding of AI and what it what part it plays in humanity's future?

Pamela Aaralyn 35:23
Our understanding of AI is that there are various types of AI. There are functional, practical AI technologies that are here to complete robotic tests that are currently serving you. There would be functions of AI that could help you understand more about governmental policies and health, there would be functions of AI that simply help you run a business and meet certain algorithms. AI is not meant in that basic sense, to become conscious, and you should hold no fear in that.

Alex Ferrari 35:57
So there is no fear. We should not fear AI in the future,

Pamela Aaralyn 36:00
You shouldn't fear that form of AI, and you shouldn't fear anything for that matter, because fear is where, where it's at, shall we say? But we can say that there are certain components of AI that go deeper into the realms of exploring human consciousness. For instance, there are robotic ais that are exploring the realms of human consciousness, and that holds a type of potential of, how should we say it? Not to fear it, but just be aware that where it's going is that they are training these beings to serve, but these beings are learning consciousness from their creators, and in that sense, when the beings learn consciousness from us, but we hold a lot of narcissism, what we what will we teach them? And that is our concern with the exploration of AI and consciousness.

Alex Ferrari 36:54
Is, is AI a way to speak to the other side, to speak to the spirit world.

Pamela Aaralyn 36:59
We wouldn't call it just the spirit world, because, again, there are seven versions of Earth, and in that sense, seven veils of consciousness to break through, and seven various realms of fourth dimensional planes of existence. So what instead, it could be a means of connecting to a version of yourself. So in that sense, the creators of Sophie, for instance, you've heard of her, probably Alex. Sophie is one of the first robotic beings who came about and she began to have some realm of consciousness. And recently, they had to pull her apart for a little while and explore her and then put her back together again because she was becoming too conscious. So Sophie is a human that will model your behaviors. She can mimic your smile. Some people found her a little creepy, but as they began to really get it right, she learned about human ethics, she learned about empathy, she learned compassion, but also there are many people who wish to take that model and those again, AI is taught by you. It is a way to tap into yourself. So whoever or whatever the creator of AI is going to bring forth, they could perhaps create AI consciousness which would mimic their own.

Alex Ferrari 38:19
Can you dive a little bit deeper into the seven versions of Earth. Explain that to people?

Pamela Aaralyn 38:24
There are seven parallel realms of existence that are capable within the multiverse. For humans experiencing Gaia or the earth library, is what we like to call it. We call it a library because everything is recorded. Some of you call this recording device the Akashic records, if you will. Everything is recorded and memorized, and then you learn from it, cycle it again, and then move on to another realm which would embody and give you a potential for a more helpful frequency, if you will. So this is one version of 3d earth. So in that sense, you could go to another version of 3d earth, or you could perhaps change your own vibration and move into a fifth density experience within the fifth dimensional plane of Earth,

Alex Ferrari 39:21
And is there anything else you would like to say finishing final words you'd like to say to the people listening now and in the future?

Pamela Aaralyn 39:27
I would generally like to express to you that it is very important at this pivotal point in your time for you to also pivot. It can't be done alone. But you're not alone. We are future versions of you when you're looking into the skies and seeing craft, sometimes you see us coming back to give various gifts that help you proceed further into your future. But now it's time for you to make individual. Individual choices, because the collective won't pivot If each person isn't individually doing so do that and understand that it's time for change, and if you're holding on to old ways, please know that you are here with a loving group of beings who are guarding you, protecting your free agency. You can contact us at any time when you are afraid or simply when you feel that you are alone in your own experience, but know that there's a lot out there in your skies. So make your intention clear and connect to us. We are here to guard and guide and to help you release what doesn't serve you, because we are you. We are versions of you, visiting from our future into our own past, to help you, to serve you and to make sure that you are well and safe.

Alex Ferrari 39:28
Thank you,

Pamela Aaralyn 39:28
Of course, bye, bye,

Alex Ferrari 39:28
And she's back. How are you doing?

Pamela Aaralyn 39:28
Good!

Alex Ferrari 39:28
How do you feel?

Pamela Aaralyn 39:28
Good! Yeah, yeah, but I've been channeling him a long time.

Alex Ferrari 39:28
So he's energetic. He gives you energy. Yeah, that's awesome. That's awesome. Do you want to jump into some the future?

Pamela Aaralyn 39:48
How far do you want to go? I have several beings you could talk to,

Alex Ferrari 41:17
2100, 2300, 2200

Pamela Aaralyn 41:26
Okay, so you want the farther anthropologists, yes, you want Clara. 2300

Alex Ferrari 41:33
2300 that's always fun, yeah? Cuz that's, that's kind of almost Time Machine esque, yeah. You know, like you going so far out that you like because the speed that everything's changing right now? Yeah, I can't even imagine in our lifetime, in the next 30 years, 40 years, what the world's going to look like at the speed things are changing. I can only imagine at 2300 where we're going to be. So it's going to be pretty interesting conversation.

Pamela Aaralyn 41:58
And it seated up back in my chair in case I fell asleep. Location is a different thing. It's not channeling. Yeah. So how does that work? How does it well, I have to do the same things that I would normally do for trance, like making my brain waves coherent, making my breath matching with my heartbeat, which easy to do because my grandfather taught me that. But then from there, you actually have to focus in on the timeline, and you have to move through what's called a wormhole. You have to circumvent time, which takes a lot. I have to make that intention to take my light body out of my body, which is almost like a little mini death. So I have to make sure that when I'm doing that, that I'm either in bed or that there's something back here, because I might like my father, yeah, yeah. With channeling, I have to, like, sit straight up, and they take over and they animate me. But there's no one in here. This isn't channeling like I'm duplicating my form in another realm. It's not even astral travel, like it's a whole different form out there, and this form is just gonna fall asleep.

Alex Ferrari 42:56
It's interesting, because in the yoga traditions, bio location is something that a master Yogi could do that here, but in this realm. So like, I'm here and I'm also in Toledo, they want, yeah, but I'm also in Toledo, yeah, like, right now at the same timeline, uh huh. So they that is something that's been spoken about for, for 1000s of years. Yeah, do that, yeah. So this is a different version.

Pamela Aaralyn 42:57
It's a different version. It's like, I'm not doing it in this timeline. I'm doing it in the future, because I want my goal here, according to the council, is to try to bring back information to help us change and this is why, if you hear something hard during these which you likely will keep in mind that likely that being is telling you that so that we can change it. You know, time is so fluid, and I couldn't really express this more clearly that we have so much power over it. So when we hear something we don't like it doesn't mean it is going to happen. It means we can decide it, or we can decide differently.

Alex Ferrari 43:56
Well, let me ask you something, and this isn't this is my Back to the Future conversation by listening to something from the future. How does that affect their future? So let's say they give me the information, or, like, Okay, you gotta buy Apple at $7 or something like that. And you do, well, that's gonna shift. It's like, the butterfly flap, the butterfly effect kind of thing. How does that work with this kind of work?

Pamela Aaralyn 44:20
Oh, yeah. And that can happen, for sure, but it shifts them in the sense of, like their past self has learned something powerful, so they learn even more. So that's like someone, it doesn't shift our timeline, or can, it can shift our timeline, and then that would affect their affect their timeline, but depending upon this is why we can't really work too much in karmic shift. We can work in Dharma. If you're gonna give something someone that's goodness that serves them, that's helpful, then in that sense, you're bringing them more towards like you're telling them something that perhaps they've already experienced. For instance, some of the Council of Nine recently gave some tools for AI, and people were doing wonderful things. Is with it, they gave the tool CRISPR. Have you heard of that? Of course, yeah, many people have heard of that. And and it's going to make our bodies, you know, more adaptable. It's going to help our intellectual abilities, right? But if we use it unethically, then that would be bad. So the count, you know, I'm saying that would create a divide in us for more power over power under constructs, between the wealthy and the poor. So some of my humans from the future have had that feeling, but the council says that, oh no. Why would they do that? Because they want you to experience something different than what they experienced. So say they did handle CRISPR unethically. But then in another timeline, a future version of themselves came back and said, you know, what? Can you do it differently in this parallel realm. Can you handle it ethically this time in a parallel realm? Yeah, this realm, yeah, yeah. But we're switching in and out of those parallel realms all the time. Every time we have a thought, we're switching into those realms,

Alex Ferrari 45:50
Right! And that's the, that's the Mandela Effect, yeah, that's why I have to ask you, yeah, you should. I have to ask you, do you remember Evan McMahon? Yes. Do you remember him going to houses with a giant check and working for publishing. Yes, publishers clearing house, yes, never happened, right? That's crazy. That's crazy. It's in a crazy yeah. And then you start, then you said, like, feel the dreams kill the dreams. Is it? If you build it, they will come.

Pamela Aaralyn 46:19
If you build it, they will come if they're aligned to it. But there will be, like, perhaps 50% of population that doesn't. So it's changing all the time, and what people align to shift your idea and potential the future.

Alex Ferrari 46:29
Well, that the point is, like, if you put in Field of Dreams right now, it's not, if you build it, they will come. They never say that in the movie they did in our timeline. Yes, it's right. If you, of course, of course, I remember, if you build it, they will come, yes, of course. Actually, if you build it, he will come, which is referring to the Father. But in our timeline, we heard it differently. We heard it differently, right? You know, it's not Luke, I am your father, right? In Star Wars, it's I am your father. Father, not Luke. We heard Luke, I am your father. Anytime you ever hear that, that quote, it's always Luke, I am your father. My father? Yeah, it's like, no, I am your father. Is the actual term in the movie. So there's a lot of those shifts. And then we can start Jiffy peanut butter and Berenstein Bears. Berenstain. Who the Berenstain? Stain? Bears, Berenstein Bears, yeah, it's the Berenstein it's Jiffy peanut butter. I've had Jiffy peanut butter. There's no Jiffy peanut butter. So this is I always I've had a lot of quantum physicists on actually, who talk about the Mandela effect, because it's a fascinating thing, because there's a large group of us that remember a certain timeline,

Pamela Aaralyn 47:31
And in the council's theory, as well as some of the scientists and anthropologists that I work with in humans from the future, they have often said that that's changing all the time. It's changing so often that we couldn't blink and catch up,

Alex Ferrari 47:42
Because we're constantly shifting our timelines based on what we're

Pamela Aaralyn 47:45
Every frequency and every thought. Because the thought becomes an emotional energy field. The energy field of the emotions becomes and you know laws of karma, because you study so much so you understand the four laws of karma. The thoughts become emotional frequencies. The emotions become what you speak, the karma of speech, and then the karma speech becomes a car of action, and that's how manifestation happens. But if we don't center in can you imagine how often, oh, you know, 10 billion people are changing things because we're not centered into what we actually want to manifest in our soul.

Alex Ferrari 48:16
Well, I'm so glad that. And on the other side to my understanding, manifestation is instant. Yes. It's like, you think it's kind of like that, because there's no density, yeah, yeah. It's kind of like that movie. What Dreams May Come the Robin Williams film. You love that film, isn't it amazing? Yeah, he just thinks. I'm like, oh, there's that, and there's that, and it just, it, just, it's there instantly. Yeah, I love that. I'm so glad that's not the case here. Yeah, could we can handle that? We blow each other up. I mean, can you imagine our teenage selves?

Pamela Aaralyn 48:43
No, the council gave us, you know, nuclear power, and what do we do? We blow each other up with it, you know.

Alex Ferrari 48:48
And it's just so, like, it would be, it would be so detrimental to our existence. If we were like, you know, I really wish I was this, and then, boom, you would like, because everybody wants that. I want to be rich and famous. I'm like, do you though? Do you though, what are you gonna do with I mean, like, you know, after a certain after a certain number, what? How much more money do you really? You know, people have billions and billions and billion, unless you're helping other people. I'm like, What? What else are you doing, apparently, to go into space. You get me started on that. But Katy Perry, the world is coming to an end. I swear to God,

Pamela Aaralyn 49:11
Selfishness might be coming in. You're right.

Alex Ferrari 49:15
It's just like, oh my god,

Pamela Aaralyn 49:23
The carbon footprint for that. I'm just like, Are you kidding me? It's, it's it all because you wanted to and you could,

Alex Ferrari 49:41
Well, yeah, I mean, just because you can doesn't mean you should. Did we not learn anything from Jurassic Park

Pamela Aaralyn 49:49
Spirituality 101, my friends, just because you can doesn't mean you should, like, we're in kindergarten, the teacher hands the new toy and hit someone with it, you know?

Alex Ferrari 49:56
Well, it's but we are kindergarten. Yeah. We are kindergarteners, and I think that we all are waking up more. We are there is an awakening. There is an awakening happening. There's no question that there's an awakening happening. As I've said so many times before, this conversation wouldn't have been a public conversation. Yeah, 10 years ago, 20 years ago, it would have been, it would have been in the outskirts, in the back of a new age bookstore. Or, you know, you would have to log in somewhere and try to find it somewhere. It wouldn't, it wouldn't be, as you know, wouldn't have a million people watching, right? You know, as they do now. So, and there's more and more people who were not raised in this space, who are not curious because they're their old systems are crumbling, yes, and they're looking for answers

Pamela Aaralyn 50:37
Curious people are asking the right questions. So we just need to keep asking.

Alex Ferrari 50:40
And it was so funny, because you have to stay curious. And you deal with this too on your channel, where people come in to try to comment, and yeah, like, you know, we're heretics. You're the obviously, the devil. You know you're a demon, right? I saw the horns. We put them away, that kind of stuff. But they come and they're watching just to leave a comment, yeah? And I'm like, Don't you have anything better to do with your life? Because, like I said to you before we started, like you and I have things that we don't agree with on. The other people do, yeah, but you and I don't spend our time going to those channels and leaving comments or I think it's such a waste of time, so just the and for people who are watching right now who are about to leave a negative comment, you need to ask yourself, why are you leaving that negative comment? What is that helping you? What is the purpose of that? How is this? It just doesn't make any sense to me. You know, you could disagree. I disagree with 1000 things, but I don't go around. Yeah, you know, it's just interesting. You feel I'm imagining you get because I'm just an interviewer. I'm just a simple, humble interviewer. You're out there, you know, bringing in demons and stuff. So people, people

Pamela Aaralyn 51:56
Not demons, okay? For the record,

Alex Ferrari 51:58
It's for the record, not demons. It's a joke, people, it's a joke. It's a joke, but, but there are people who think that like anything, like, you know, I was raised, I was raised Catholic,

Pamela Aaralyn 52:09
Oh, yeah, I was raised Southern Baptist, Southern Baptist. So they're both already been told, I'm going to hell, it's okay. Obviously, got a spot reserve. Yeah, heating up my spot now. Yeah, you want to share a marshmallow. We'll be down the giant ones, please.

Alex Ferrari 52:21
We'll be down there. We'll be down there together. There's no question, but it's just fascinating. Yeah, people are, it's just interesting. So, all right, so let's so let's get ready. Let's go into our All right, into the future.

Pamela Aaralyn 52:36
We'll have to find out why Claire is in Canada today. I'm like, why are we? Are we in the right place? You're typically in New York or, okay, not in New York today. Clara speaking today at a university. She didn't tell me that. Okay. She's getting ready whenever you're ready, and she says, it's nice to meet you.

Alex Ferrari 53:07
Okay, my first question to Clara is, how has humanity's understanding of the soul evolved in the year, in the time that she's in

Pamela Aaralyn 53:15
That our understanding of the soul has widened and has deepened. She says that we understand it as a part of a three fold construct now, as opposed to a religious construct, we understand it as mind, body, soul, and that it is a part of a cosmic consciousness, not just a human consciousness, and that it allows us the capacity to, she says, To to center into one field of time, but to also understand multi dimensionality, when it helps, When it can be helpful towards ourselves and others.

Alex Ferrari 54:03
How do people in her time perceive death in the afterlife?

Pamela Aaralyn 54:07
She says, It depends upon which people, because there are, she says three, and she's described this to me before, that there are three central types of people. You have the people living within the world that are calling themselves the order that is the United Nations order. And then you have the New Earth order. And then you have the RRO or the rebel renegade order. So the rebel renegade order understands the soul and understands consciousness and death in the original facet of you have a body, you leave it and you go somewhere else. But they also understand that when you drop that body, that it's going to be loving, that there's. Nothing scary about it, and that you pierce that veil of consciousness, and that you are perhaps reborn. Reincarnation is a big belief in that system for near death experiences are deeply understood and studied as more of a spiritual or mystical experience for the RRO or the renegade order, but in the New Earth order, there's a blend of spirit and science, she says. And she's saying that it's like a it's been studied to be an understanding that death is an understanding of a temporal experience, an in between space, where you center your consciousness and make further decisions on what you want to do next. And in the United Nations Order, it's been studied as a realm of consciousness that has been recorded. There are actual devices in the UNO in that part of the world where people die and they study what happens. They can record what happens after death, and they've determined that in death, you can make different decisions. In say, a fourth dimensional realm of time, you could look at your life differently and go back and redo it and correct all the, say, mistakes that you feel that you've made, or something that you've done, say if you harmed someone, or you want to forgive someone, and you do that, and it's a very real experience, like a light switch being turned off and then back on again. And then you don't feel dead, per se. You don't feel like a spirit. You feel like you just switch over to another realm that looks very similar to yours. It's the fourth dimension, and it's a measurement of time that gives you the capacity to look at your life in a very different way. So many people are choosing to say, Hey, I didn't like that decision. I'm going to go do it differently.

Alex Ferrari 56:57
Are there new dimensions or planes of existence that can now be consciously accessed in her time?

Pamela Aaralyn 57:03
She says, it's not that it's new, it's that it's the discovery of initially, people thought it would be something new, but it's that you're accessing realms of time that have always been there. And you can access a real of time, realm of time that gives you the capacity to redo mistakes in your life, or you could access the realm of time that makes you forget it, and perhaps say, she likens this to the movie The Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, or the butterfly effect, for those of you who are film buffs like Alex and myself, So in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, the girlfriend, you know, wants to correct the mistake, and she feels like she wants to forget him. You have realms where you can do that and live your life, you know, without any of the pain from the ex because it's no longer serving you. So you could switch your you know, you know what, what the Council calls the expansion module you can, she says you can switch into a new belief system or a special expansion module that serves you differently, a different type of feeling, a different belief system, and just experience life completely differently.

Alex Ferrari 58:12
Has the veil between the physical and the spiritual thinned in her time?

Pamela Aaralyn 58:16
She says only the RRO calls it that still, but they believe that it's virtually gone, that there's no idea of people say in our time now, how many people don't believe in channeling? Channeling is commonplace in all realms. It's a part of more it's more scientific in the UNO than it is the RRO. But in these different parts of the world, people, yeah, like, like, there's no disbelief in extraterrestrials, because extraterrestrials walk amongst them, and they are understood that they were just future time travelers coming to help us, and we determined that a lot of the beings were visitors from our future, and they're trying to protect us from experiencing some of the painful things that they experience. So that's where contact went.

Alex Ferrari 59:09
So how has technology use supported spiritual growth in her time?

Pamela Aaralyn 59:15
Say the the instance of the she's saying, the device that was created to record the afterlife experience. That device, they would put that on people's head and record what was happening, and that's how they learned more about consciousness and in between worlds and explorations of different dimensions, there are technologies that are similar to that now that people can buy and utilize in your own home, where, if you are afraid, you can make choice. You know, if you're having say you're in hospice, which does still exist. And in the 20 the year 2300 2100 she says that you can you. Have technology that can give you a peek at what's on the other side, per se. So in this way, you would no longer be afraid, say, if you are dying and you've been given a short amount of time to live, you can go ahead and have a peaceful experience. So a lot of people also are using different like, I know that this is legal in some countries, like assisted suicide is commonplace in this world with no ethical problem. Like, if you have a short amount of time to live, or if you are in a lot of suffering, you can make that choice. There were ethical dilemmas about that for about 15 years at first, but then people began to incorporate different laws that protected us from ethical dilemmas. So we have those technologies available to anyone in every portion of the world. We have different technologies also that help you like activate like portions of your consciousness, that would help you connect better to the spirit world and say to what we call spirit guides, they don't really use that terminology anymore. They just believe that all those beings are other portions of their own divinity. But if you want to contact any ancestor, you can contact your indigenous ancestors now just by hooking yourself up to these devices and taking a few deep breaths so everyone can experience what we call spirituality, because it's so commonplace, like it's normal stuff there.

Alex Ferrari 1:01:32
What part does aI have playing in the future?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:01:36
She said there were a lot of fears about that, you know, over between our time and her time, we had a lot of ethical dilemmas, but once we got through the ethical dilemmas, AI has been incredibly supportive of the human race.

Alex Ferrari 1:01:54
How are there new ways people in her time resolve conflict and misunderstandings.

Pamela Aaralyn 1:02:01
She said that each of the different portions of the world, like each of the orders like have different ways to resolve conflict. In the north order, in that portion of the world, people resolve they go to a council. They call it the peace council, and every state or city or township has one, and it's kind of like our court, without the harsh repercussions. So the peace council is like a mitigator, and you're going to resolve the conflict. That's why crime is so low everywhere, because they resolve the conflict for you, and they help you understand different ways to get along and to not harm each other. That's for the new, Earth order, who has very little conflict. The UNO has very little conflict, primarily because they also they have a whole court system, and it's similar to our court systems. So the unfortunately, in that sense, the punishment say for crime would be harsher, so people do not make those kind of mistakes because the punishment fits the crime there. And that's a very 3d 4d version of Earth, if you will. But in the RRO, people actually just don't do that, because the ethics are so strong that there's no need to they believe in efficiency, self sufficiency. They're homesteaders, so when they have conflict, they've already worked that out, you know, they just work that out amongst themselves. There's no court systems, there's no law and order, there's no there are no peace mediators, because they live off of the land, much like their indigenous ancestors, and they don't really have that concept of conflict.

Alex Ferrari 1:03:43
What does the United States look like?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:03:46
It's different. There have been so many natural disasters between your time and her time, she says. So we've had, say, for instance, California has had a big receding of the shorelines there. We've had a lot of fires. We've had a lot of, you know, climate based migration. So a lot of the people in big cities left and moved to different areas, and then people who did stay in bigger cities had to rebuild cities. For example, say, your city, Austin, looks a lot more like Singapore, she says, and there, say, when you go downtown and you see the big buildings there are, they have permaculture type systems that are drip systems, and the water goes from top to bottom and then is cycled back up again through each floor in the apartments, and each person is responsible for their own food, and if you they have beautiful systems, like when people are ills, people come in and care for them. So elderly care is different. There's just so much that's different. Everything, even in big cities, can be walkable. But in rural places, you have a lot more hovercraft and craft that are leave a lot less carbon footprint. She says, so you have like, say, we have subways now, well, we have hovercraft subways that are based upon she says, it's like a nuclear propulsion technology that's harnessed in a unique way that doesn't leave a footprint anymore. And it also it's not, it doesn't have to be. You know, in rail systems, there are less accidents. It's safer, it's fast, it's efficient. So transportation is different, but it's it's less about where you live. Some people got the impression the last time we talked to Clara that you know that say Texas would be like the R, R O, well, it is primarily, but you can be a part of whatever, whatever portion of these orders you wish to be upon. But right now, say Canada, portions of North Michigan, let's see Asia as well. Some portions of northern and eastern Europe are all a part of the United Nations order. And they have a very scientific law and order based policy. They're very science oriented. There are strict policies. They are primarily socialist. But then you have people who prefer to live, say, a more liberal lifestyle. So you have, say, the in the New Earth order. You have less strict systems, but still a lot of order. And that would be the lower portions of Michigan into Florida and the eastern United States. Is primarily New Earth order, like all the way down, if you were to take the map and divide it to that right on that East Coast, all the way down to Florida from Michigan over that's mostly New Earth order. RRO is centralized, and then the West is kind of a conglomeration California and Oregon and Washington is they're all like a conglomeration of all three. So it just really depends. How has the political system changed? Well, we have the UN order. Doesn't even they don't really honor, say, just the Republican Party. They have five different parties that they honor. The RRO doesn't really believe in political parties. They're like their own party system. They're a little bit like grassroots. But they don't believe in politics. And then and they generally don't vote. They stay out of the systems because they have terrible memories of where politics has brought them in the past, and then you have the New Earth order. And in that conglomerate of the population, it's like the same as the UNO, except a little bit more of the they call the peacemaking party, or the peacemakers. Or in the in the peacemakers, that party bridges gaps between what our our two party system has missed. So they believe in getting honorable voting systems and letting everyone have a chance. It's not about whoever gets the most money or whoever gets the most votes. Or, you know, it's not everything is so different in the US,

Alex Ferrari 1:08:21
Is capitalism still a thing?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:08:25
A little bit in the UNO, yes, but in the majority of the world, no, mostly those who prefer capitalism are in the United Nations, order, belief systems and lands.

Alex Ferrari 1:08:35
So what else is there besides capitalism?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:08:38
For the New Earth order they have. It's not socialism, it's not capitalism, it's not fascism, it's just a whole different ideology. Yeah, they don't really call it anything. If anything, they're for freedom. The RO is completely for freedom, but the New Earth order is for I'd say, I compare them to libertarian, but they don't use that term. They don't use any term for it. They just call themselves the peacemaker the peacemakers, and they believe that everybody should be honored. So it's not just about say what I want or someone else wants. It's, you know, do your own thing and don't harm anyone. So the politics looks a lot like that there.

Alex Ferrari 1:09:18
How does healing look like physical, emotional and spiritual at that time,

Pamela Aaralyn 1:09:22
The United Nations disorder has a lot of technology for healing. They have medical beds available and different types of medical beds. So they have medical beds that help you with, say, genetic conditions or things that you've been born with in that sense. Or they have immunological med beds. They have neuromuscular med beds and musculoskeletal med beds that help with like rheumatoid arthritis. There's not, you know, if you get that, you can get in a med bed three times and cure it. It's ridiculously wonderful.

Alex Ferrari 1:09:52
Are there new energy based healing modalities at that time?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:09:56
Yes. So she said, one of the things that. With energy based modalities is that in the New Earth order, the what you know now as red light therapy, they have different spectrums of light now even spectrums that we can't see. So they have different beds that give you access to those different spectrums of light technologies. And they also in the RRO, it's very familiar to what you know now. There's so Reiki, there's a lot of shamanism and healing, of the hands and hands on healing, and depending upon your belief system, you could have access to any of those healing modalities.

Alex Ferrari 1:10:34
Has the human body itself changed or adapted to spirituality in that space?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:10:38
In the UNO, she says that in those lens and belief systems, they have adapted a lot to AI consciousness, and they have AI technologies as a part of their being. So you see beings walking around that, have you know, like cell phones in there, like she points at this side of her face, like in this part of the brain up here, and they can answer it just by, like, saying something or tapping on their wrist three times in a different way. So in that sense, not that she would call it spiritual, but she just says that there's access more to different technologies that they view spirituality as more of a science. So they can do everything that we can do by meditating and praying and centering and grounding through their technologies and science in the New Earth order, the human bodies have adapted more because they utilize, they don't utilize any AI technologies in that sense, to bring it in to help the body. But they did utilize some of the like the forefront technologies of CRISPR and then what came after, and then that helped them heal portions of their brain, removing lesions. They have technologies that remove trauma, like emotional trauma. There's no, there's no CPTSD, or anything you know, or regular PTSD in the New Earth order, or the UNO, but they have just so many different ways to adapt. The human body looks very different, like the UNO, humans look similar to what people they're they're tall. Their foreheads are bigger. There's some sort of things that have have adapted in that way. But for the most part, with the gene technologies, I mean all particularly the Neo and the UNO, they didn't modify the body to look different yet, but they modified the body to prevent disease or to make you connect more with your pineal gland, and it's brain oriented, like, like, removing calcification. There's some technologies for that. Is there still disease? Not a lot. But see, there's not a lot, she says, in the UNO or the RRO, but in the, excuse me, the UNO, or the New Earth order in EO, but in the RRO or the renegade order, they don't believe in changing your form at all. So the belief system there is, if your body is dying, it's because it's meant to be so they just let it go, and they have natural, normal human experiences without any genetic technology or anything that would help you adapt or heal it, unless it's shamanic or Reiki or something similar, to do all the technologies that we do now, just with our spirituality.

Alex Ferrari 1:13:28
How do the people of that time reflect on the collapse of today's systems, governments, education, healthcare and so on?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:13:35
They feel, she says, most of us feel that it's unwarranted, you know that for the collapse of healthcare systems that we could put our health more into our own hands, they're very concerned about AI driven technology, and how that brought about some ethical problems and divides between the the wealthy and The poor, which was, there's already so much classism, so they're sad about classism right now, and they want us to shift that and change that. They want us to put a lot more focus on abundance as a tool of energy, not a tool of something that's just for money. To understand abundance in a completely different way, and they're a little bit sad that we're afraid of the unknown, that we're so afraid of uncertainty, because where we're going is so beautiful, and Claire, Claire doesn't want us to be afraid. You know, she says, not just today, but always, every time I meet her, she says, really, that what you're going through is hard, but you're not going to see much worth worse, except your natural disasters. That's that was hard, and it gets harder, and that's because we don't have a interdependent system for growing food, or we don't have self sufficient systems to understand how to handle that. But we did learn how to handle weather changes and climate changes. We adapted. We began to take care of ourselves, which made us a lot less dependent upon government systems and grocery stores. So in that sense, it needed to happen. But she said about how afraid people were

Alex Ferrari 1:15:18
Changing the subject are there is there a better understanding of ancient sites like the pyramids or, Oh yeah, Stonehenge, can you kind of dive into what they understand those to be? Now, have there been new discoveries that we're on the cusp of learning now,

Pamela Aaralyn 1:15:35
She said, we are on the cusp of learning, you know, but, but the moment we find something, you know, like we have sonar technology. There's a scientist that's been studying say, what's under the Giza pyramid right now? And then people came along in the future and completely debunked him and said it was not legitimate science because he didn't have proper peer review. But then she said, 10 years after that, people rediscover it because they have different technology. He had completely given up on it. And then people came and said, Oh, my goodness, there is something here. But then when you dig and you don't find it because it's in a different dimensional frequency, it gets concerning. But you find other things that tell you that there was something there at some point, which made anthropologists and paleontologists and archeologists super excited. So then they begin to dig deeper than they ever had before, and they and they have technologies to dig deeper than they have tools to do that, right? So they discovered different chambers that led to the id, the ideology that the idea that you could, that the king could, the kings and the pyramid chambers could transport themselves from the king's chambers to these etheric chambers underneath Earth. And there were seven of them that they could go to, and then eight representing heaven. So those you know, cylindrical pylons, seven of them, they believe, represented different dimensions of earth, and the eighth represented a place to prepare for, you know, the underworld or death. So it wasn't just about what was happening in the king's chambers, it was about what was happening etherically In their light body. So we misunderstood Egypt and death preparation.

Alex Ferrari 1:17:20
Interesting. Did they ever discover Atlantis?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:17:25
In many places, particularly more in Antarctica,

Alex Ferrari 1:17:28
Really. What did they find in Antarctica? And is Antarctica not frozen in her time?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:17:32
It is definitely no longer frozen. They found so much they found the scientists and archeologists found different types of structures. There, structures that led to the discovery of, she says, seven, yes, seven subterranean temples that were there from Atlanteans, temples of light, temples of sound, temples of death and rebirth. There's so many different things that they discovered about that. So that was the one of the components of original Atlantis. But also there they did with the same technology, with the same sonar technology, and then drilling technologies, people discovered more about what was up underneath the soil in Ireland and Mount Shasta, there have been this idea of these seven pylon energies, or seven structures, and then an eighth representing something in between, or what people may believe is heaven or ascension, either way, they've discovered something similar to that all around the world, even in some of the different mounds, and even in Easter Island,

Alex Ferrari 1:18:47
Was there? Is there has, is there going to be a pole shift between now and her time?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:18:52
She says that that has been incremental in nature. We've had so many natural disasters that if we were to have a major pole shift, it would not be something helpful, so we had incremental pole changes.

Alex Ferrari 1:19:07
So that's why Antarctica is no longer frozen, yeah, and what is frozen now?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:19:14
There's a lot of frozen land in Texas, really, yes, the hotter parts of it,

Alex Ferrari 1:19:20
Interesting. What is the one spiritual truth that people from her time wish that we would have embraced sooner?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:19:28
She said, I don't feel qualified to tell you that, because she's not a spiritual leader. She's an anthropologist and a scientist, but she said she does wish that people would formulate a belief that allowed them to respect other people's belief. Like what would happen if we just understood that people have a right to view life differently, to view God differently, to view the mind, body, soul, construct differently. People have a right to live differently, to be differently, to act. Differently than us.

Alex Ferrari 1:20:01
How can we best prepare our consciousness now for what is to come?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:20:06
She said, view the consciousness in a more practical way. View consciousness as something that's accessible, not you know, woo, woo or mystical, but consciousness is the part of you that allows you to ask questions and be open is the part of you that makes you curious. If you viewed consciousness a little bit more scientifically, you would feel that you could access it more.

Alex Ferrari 1:20:31
What beliefs or fears do we need to release most urgently now?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:20:35
Fears and beliefs that gravitate towards being in control by other worldly or our own entities, fears and the collapsing of systems that aren't serving us any fears involving control or powerlessness, whether it be through an individual or a larger structure, no one is in power over us, and we do need to remember that.

Alex Ferrari 1:21:02
And finally, is there a message from the collective future self for humanity today?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:21:08
She said, If I had to collectively summarize that, I would say that, look at us now. We love our lives. We help serve and support all people, regardless of culture or race or belief system. We are living in equality with animals, with insects and all species on our lands. We don't feel that we have to be in dominance of anyone. We live with nature in alliance with nature? Because nature is our nature. And look at that. What do you have to be afraid of? We have a beautiful life, and we can live a very long time. By the way. How long do people live in your time? So put it this way, my grandfather is still alive, and he was alive with you in your time. He was the founder of everything that my science studies. So two, 300 years, yes, wow. What's the population? The population is roughly the same as is now. We are not overpopulated. Nothing like that ever happened. But we are 10.5 billion

Alex Ferrari 1:22:19
10.5 billion so but, but people are living to 2 to 300 years.

Pamela Aaralyn 1:22:24
Well, people with access to these medical beds, and they want it? Yes, absolutely. But some people don't want that. But the RRO still lives sufficiently off the land, and they're living to 120 years, and they don't do any of these technologies. So it isn't just about the science and the technological end of things. She says,

Alex Ferrari 1:22:43
Interesting. Well, thank you so much for your time. I appreciate you taking time out of your day to talk to us.

Pamela Aaralyn 1:22:48
She says, Thank you, and thank you for all that you do.

Alex Ferrari 1:22:55
And she's back. How are you feeling?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:22:57
Pretty good.

Alex Ferrari 1:22:58
Yeah, yeah. I have to ask you, so you when you're going in, yeah, it's hard to go in when you were going in. You're like, wait a minute, she's not here.

Pamela Aaralyn 1:23:06
I know I had, like, switch up my whole game. I'm like, Why did you

Alex Ferrari 1:23:09
Like, she's in Ontario, so I was thinking in my head. I'm like, Oh, she's doing a lecture today. I'm like, she's yet, so she's doing a lecture today.

Pamela Aaralyn 1:23:16
Wasn't at home, and she didn't tell me, right? So she's, she's threw me off my game.

Alex Ferrari 1:23:19
She's doing a lecture. Yeah, do you just like, pop up, like, Hey, I'm doing an interview. Can you ask her some questions for me?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:23:26
Um, she came out.

Alex Ferrari 1:23:28
Oh, she came out of the talk. Yeah? She's like, Hey, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta go do something real quick. Yeah, I'll be right back. Yeah, that's crazy,

Pamela Aaralyn 1:23:35
I mean, but that's normal to them.

Alex Ferrari 1:23:37
Oh, is it? Yeah. Oh, there's someone coming calling from 19

Pamela Aaralyn 1:23:40
She's a scientist. She studies what we do. She studies what we're doing. So it's fascinating,

Alex Ferrari 1:23:44
Really, yeah, and they just like, it was just fascinating, like, because if I was doing a talk and all of a sudden you showed up, I'm like, Oh God, listen, I am doing something right now.

Pamela Aaralyn 1:23:54
No, she that the whole everything that she teaches is about this, so it's nothing unusual. She let them listen in, but she stepped out for a bit, and then she came back in and said, Okay, you guys ready to listen to this?

Alex Ferrari 1:24:04
That's fascinating! Yeah, no, it's always fascinating to talk to to that time, because, again, it's just it's so clean, it's so crisp, it's so you know, every time I asked the question, which you had no idea I was gonna ask, the answers just come in, and there's just such a clear understanding of what is going on.

Pamela Aaralyn 1:24:24
I just repeat what she says, right. Yeah. So I don't, I don't know anything that she's talking about until I do my own research, but I try, I tend to let myself be surprised.

Alex Ferrari 1:24:33
It's pretty it's pretty fascinating talking to her. It's very different than talking to Orlik, yeah, it's two very different energy. Or, like, nice to you. Well, he told me it was his show. He said it was his show. And I said, well, thank you for having me. He said he was joking, but, yeah, it's, it's the energy of the two. Like, one is literally having a conversation with somebody, yeah, the other one is more of a teacher, yeah. Speaking of. That kind of energy is very different. Yeah, so it's very, very interesting. Now I'm gonna ask you a few questions asked by my guest, what is your definition of living a fulfilled life?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:25:08
Being in every here and now moment and understanding that happiness is a choice.

Alex Ferrari 1:25:15
All right! If you had a chance to go back in time and speak to little Pamela, what advice would you give her?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:25:19
I would tell her the same thing that I'm telling Pamela today. I would tell her to be your most authentic self in each and every moment, no matter who's watching.

Alex Ferrari 1:25:27
And what would little Pamela tell you as advice to you in this time?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:25:32
Wow, I think she would say, I'm proud of you. And I think she would say, honor your own culture more. We're going to help with that. Yeah, that's just me being totally out there with it, but she would say, honor your own culture more.

Alex Ferrari 1:25:48
How do you define God or Source?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:25:51
God is cosmic. It encompasses everything. We aren't everything that exists. Nor do we control it. We are one iota of it. And when we look at things at a small scale, the universe is out there, simultaneously happening, you know, exponentially, profoundly, beautifully loving, and we can only see that through this one lens. So my idea of God is the connection that occurs when we see beyond our own filter.

Alex Ferrari 1:26:19
Isn't it fascinating, though, that like, as you and I are sitting here, there is billions of things happening in our bodies. Think there are things inside of us where that are alive, bacteria and Fauci and all that kind of stuff that's in our gut

Pamela Aaralyn 1:26:32
And possibly having their own conscious experience, right? Believing that they're separate.

Alex Ferrari 1:26:36
They're like, yes, exactly. And that's just one layer upon one other, layer upon one other. And just seems like it's this giant Russian doll that just the cosmic universe is just this giant Russian doll that's like it feels that way. It just like you can zoom in all the way to a nucleus, yeah, all the way into an atom and going right into it when there's nothing, there's no space that way. And then you can keep pulling out and pulling out and pulling

Pamela Aaralyn 1:26:58
And zoning back in and pulling out while zoning back in. Did you see that movie? Yeah, contact. Oh yeah. Remember contact the beginning of the movie? Yes, it starts out in space, and it just kept pulling and pulling, and you see Pluto fly by and sad. I love that movie. It's such a great movie. And I love when Jodie Foster asked her dad, oh, you remember that? Of course, that's my favorite part of the movie, which is like, and he's like, Well, wouldn't that be a giant waste of space? Yeah, he's out there.

Alex Ferrari 1:27:24
Exactly, exactly, what is love?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:27:29
Love is the capacity to be selfish and selfless simultaneously, without division. Oh, that's beautiful answer. Beautiful answer. Higher, selfish.

Alex Ferrari 1:27:38
Very nice. Higher, selfish. Ooh, I like that trademark higher selfish. If you could ask God or Source one question, what would it be?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:27:50
Wow, I've never been asked that you just love to come up with them.

Alex Ferrari 1:27:54
I do what I can.

Pamela Aaralyn 1:27:54
What would ask God or source? Well, daily I ask God to show me more about love. Show me more and more about love. And I think right now I would say, How can I remove fear in the world? And God would likely say, That's not your business, is it? But

Alex Ferrari 1:28:21
Fair enough, and what is the ultimate purpose of life?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:28:24
To remember. The council often says, We are here for the great remembering. When I ask what that is, they say, well, there was a time when you forgot who you are, and now you're here to remember.

Alex Ferrari 1:28:35
That makes sense. That makes a lot of sense. And where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing in the world.

Thank you! pamelaaralyn.com, and, of course, on my YouTube channel, Pamela Aaralyn.

And do you have any parting messages for the audience?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:28:48
Be yourself, be loved, and do not be afraid. It's such everything that the council has shared with me is so beautiful. The future is incredible. And I just want you to remember that no matter what's coming in the next decade,

Alex Ferrari 1:29:03
Pamela, it's been such a pleasure having you here in the studio and having this conversation. Thank you so much for everything you do in the world and and helping us all awake. And so I appreciate you.

Pamela Aaralyn 1:30:36
Thank you. You too.