She DIED in a Freezer as a Child — What JESUS Showed Her in Heaven Will AMAZE You! with Susan Grau

There are some experiences in childhood that are so powerful, they bend the entire arc of a life. On today’s episode, we welcome Susan Grau, a near-death experiencer and intuitive who, at the age of five, found herself locked in a freezer, dying—and awakening into realms beyond this world.

Her story begins with innocence, a child’s game gone wrong. Shut inside the darkness of a freezer, terror rising, she screamed until she saw three radiant lights appear. They told her to stop crying, to be calm, that they would fetch her mother. In that moment, she was pulled into another reality, no longer a frightened child, but a soul on the threshold of eternity.

Susan describes finding herself at the bottom of a staircase, rising into what she calls the “room of knowledge.” There she saw a great well, spiraling with prayers like strands of DNA—requests from all over the world, whispered into the fabric of the Divine. When she asked if all were answered, the beings told her, “Sometimes what people desire the most isn’t good for them.” For a child, this was hard to accept, but she felt the living pulse of truth in their words.

She was then shown a path, paved not by human hands, but by angelic beings. People pulled blocks from the base of their own pyramids, trying to build their future, only to destabilize their lives. The angels told her, “We are the pavers. You are not. All you have to do is walk it.” Their message was clear: we cannot control life without unbalancing it, but we can trust the guidance of love as our path unfolds. “What you try to control controls you, and what you run from will chase you,” they said, leaving her with wisdom she still carries decades later.

Susan also found herself in what many call the Akashic Records, a vast space where souls planned their next incarnations. She witnessed spirits choosing challenges, sometimes too heavy, yet insisting they could carry them. Only later did she understand this as reincarnation, a truth she had lived before she had ever heard the word. From there, she moved into the “room of companions,” surrounded by animals and nature alive with music, where even flowers and blades of grass pulsed with light.

At last, she was immersed in unconditional love, radiance beyond anything she had ever known. “I was everything and I was nothing. I was perfection,” she recalls. Yet when told it was time to return, she resisted. Still, her journey was not yet finished on Earth. She came back into her body, her mother frantically pulling her from the freezer, and her life forever changed. As a child she began to see spirits around her bed, once frightening, later comforting, as she realized they were not there to harm her.

SPIRITUAL TAKEAWAYS

  1. We cannot force our path—life is paved by higher guidance, and our task is to walk it with trust.

  2. Unconditional love is the foundation of the universe, the essence in which we live and move.

  3. Self-love is the most powerful lesson, for through it we learn acceptance, compassion, and the courage to trust our journey.

Susan’s near-death experience is not only a testimony of survival, but a revelation of truth. That life is not random, that love is the constant, and that even as children we are held in the arms of something vast and divine. Her story reminds us that what we seek to control may enslave us, but when we surrender, we are carried by love itself.

Please enjoy my conversation with Susan Grau.

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Follow Along with the Transcript – Episode DE087

Alex Ferrari 0:00
Tell me what your life was like before you died.

Susan Grau 0:08
So I was playing for it with some boys that were older than me, and yeah, and they opened up the garage, and we weren't allowed in the garage, and there was a freezer in the garage. It wasn't plugged in. But I didn't know that I was four and a half. I was almost five, but I didn't even recognize, oh, it's not plugged in. And they said, if you want to keep playing, you got to get up and get us popsicles. So up I go into the freezer, facing inward, and they close the freezer door. And at first I thought, Oh, this is a game that the garage was separated from our house by a distance for a little child, and there was like a fence between us and a tool room. I mean, it was quite a distance. I remember just thinking, I'm in on the game. This is part of the game. We're playing a game. And then I heard the garage door thug, and I realized I'm in trouble. And it was really interesting, because you innately have this knowing that you're going to die. But I didn't know what death meant, really, except for, you know, animals on the land. But I didn't understand totally. I just knew you went away. That's what I knew. And I started screaming at the top of my lungs. I was like a trapped animal, and I can remember that high pitched sound of terror, and my mother likened to hearing the cats in heat have a very high pitched sound when they're mating. My mother likened it to that, and she said, That's the sound of terror. And just even saying it, I can feel it, you know, this experience, and it was terrifying. I was horrified. I didn't know what to do. I couldn't turn around, you know, because the shelves had kind of locked me, and I was a skinny little thing, but I couldn't turn around. And I remember screaming at the top of my lungs, I remember seeing three amazingly beautiful lights that just kind of came in front of me because it was pitch black and it was like, I felt like I was in a coffin, but I didn't know exactly what that meant. I just had seen one, but I didn't know what it meant. They said, Stop screaming. And I kept screaming. I thought, I'm not stop I didn't know who they were. But, you know, I know they come as we understand them. And so I all of a sudden, and I understood angels, and I felt this powerful angelic source stop in the movement, and almost felt like it looked at me, but it was a light, and it said, Stop screaming, Susie, we're going to get your mommy. And then it felt like it was, but first, you know, they didn't say it, but that's what it felt like and I felt myself being pulled. It felt like forces that were pulling me, but I wasn't I didn't look back and see my body. I didn't go through a tunnel. I just felt this force pulling me, and I ended up at the bottom of a set of stairs, and I was looking at a Greco Roman room, and it was open, and it had pillars that were cracked and old and it had an open ceiling, and then I knew innately that I needed to get up to the top of these stairs, because in the center of that room was going to be what I called a well. I don't know why I felt compelled, but I needed to be there. And the moment I thought it, I was there at the edge of this well. I always called it a well. And I studied for my doctorate under Dr Raymond Moody, and he said to me, Susan, did you ever think that the well might have been your tunnel? Because I said to him, Raymond, I never saw a tunnel, and I that was like the aha moment for me. And that wasn't that long ago. It was maybe 810, years ago. That was my first like, what, you know, I looked at him like, Are you kidding me right now? I never thought it, because it was just what I saw. And I looked down into this beautiful well, and I could see movement. Now, looking back, it looked like one consciousness of DNA, and it was words, and it was moving like twirling, like DNA, and I could hear prayers, and people were saying things like, my mom is going to die. Please, God help her. Don't let her die. She has cancer. Don't let her die. And I heard, I'm going to turn 16, and I want a car. God, please tell my dad to get me a car. I mean, I was hearing all of these amazing prayers, and they were all going into one well of consciousness. And I looked over at the lights, and I asked them, Where am I? And they said, you're in the room of knowledge. I don't think I understood it then, but now I have to say that even when I say it, it's overwhelming to me, and now I'm going to start sniffling. And I said, do you answer all those because I knew they were prayers. I knew what a prayer was. You know, I grew up in my first five years Catholic, and so I knew what a prayer was. And they said, No, Susie, sometimes what people desire the most isn't good for them. And I didn't like hearing it. I wanted my mom used to say, just because you want it doesn't mean it's good for you. Now go to your room, you know. And so I was waiting for the rest of that. I was waiting, you know. And I thought, I don't know if I like this, you know, feeling like what they just said to me, but I felt so alive. Everything in the room pulsed. And I'll explain that as I go, it was like breathing everything. And then I they kind of like glanced to another area, and I looked, and I saw this path, and it looked like the yellow brick road I'd seen the Wizard of Oz. So I remember this so clearly, like everyone can remember seeing the Wizard of Oz. You know, you remember the lollipop kids. You remember. All of it, right? You remember the ruby slippers and the witch, and that's how it was for me, because it was so alive. And I think for children, they make it very even brighter. So it's pulsating life. And I remember seeing this path, and on the front of the path were these pyramids, and I could see that it was pavers look like golden pavers. And I can only describe now as an adult, I think I thought then that it was just blocks. It was just like building blocks. And I saw people pulling from the bottom of these pyramids, people, and they were paving their path, and it was really crooked and out of shape, and it was all over the place, and they dropped to their knees. And I innately knew that those pyramids were their life journey. And when you pull from the bottom of pyramid, it's like Jenga, you unbalance it. And they were unbalancing their life journey because they were trying to pave their path. Looking back, I really understand that, and I have for a lot of years, quite honestly, and they were saying, for the love of God, help me. You know, nothing's working. It's not going my way. God do something, you know? And I watch these beautiful, angelic beings come in and start pulling the pavers out. Now, this is all metaphorical for me, and I know that children see it as metaphors because they can't understand and I work with children who have nde's, I have my doctorate, so I know how they see it. And so they took the pavers out, and they came back, and they started building back the pyramid, or putting it back to the bottom. And I watched it stop moving. It was just flat, still as still can be. And they went to the top of the pyramid, they pulled off the pavers, and they started paving these angelic beings. And I said, What are you doing? And they said, We are the pavers. You are not. All you have to do is walk it. Now, I know they put the questions in my head, because I asked them, How do you know if you're walking it right? And they said, We bless and block everything. Make no mistake, you can get through a block or a wall battered and bruised at best, Susie or you can shift on your journey. And if there's another wall, you can shift again until you see us paving your path, you think. And they pointed to what I thought was my head. You know what's best for you. We know what's best for you. Problem is, humans don't listen. What you try to control controls you, and what you run from will chase you on your journey. Walk into your power. We'll be there. And I'm like, the heck do they mean? Like, what does this all mean? I didn't understand it, but I remember it verbatim. I've always said those quotes, because I remember it from them, and other things happened in that room, and then I flashed into another room. Everyone calls it the Akashic records. I call it the room of knowledge, because that's what they told me it was. And I say a room, but it's really not a room. But I don't know how to describe it any other way. It was like a place. It was all interconnected, and it was running just like we would if we go to the mall, and there's all these different stores, you know, there's all these different places, except they're not stores. It's a place all interconnected, where you learn and you grow. And I was standing there, and I was watching families and they I saw these like, I want to say tablets, but they weren't. There was nothing virtual in my life. Then, you know, I'm 65 years old. There was nothing virtual in my life at the time, but looking back, it felt virtual. And I I watched these books or tablets, books maybe come in front of them, and they were going, I'm going to do this, and I'm going to do that, and I'm going to do this. And I heard them say, Oh no, no, no, that's way too much to handle personal and they go, I can do it. I know I can do it. And I said, Where am I? And they said, you're in the room of knowledge. And they and I said, Oh, what are they doing? And it was so interesting to me, like, so Wow, what is this? And they said they're getting ready for their next incarnation. I didn't know what they meant later on in life. Someone said to me, Do you believe in reincarnation Susan? I went, Oh, my God, there's that word. And I knew exactly what it meant. And then I flashed, you know, there were other things that happened in this space, and then they walked to me or popped me. I don't know how to explain it. There are no human words. So this sounds so benign when I talk about it, but it's a close eyes that I can get to it. I ended up in another space where there were animals, and they told me I was in the room of companions, and I was really happy, because I saw all these animals, and I knew I was safe. And you know, they were everywhere, these beautiful animals and everything, and you know, not just the squirrels and everything you can think of. And I was in this open field, and there were daisies and dandelions, and the colors were unbelievable. They were like nothing I'd ever seen in my life. Journey and the music. When the angels speak, I can only know them as angels for me, but when they speak, the words and the music come out at the same time, and I can only describe it as like the whale song, they're speaking to their young, but they are speaking in song. It's why music is so powerful to us. It touches every part of our soul, and it will take us to any memory we choose to be in. It is the power source, and it comes from that the afterlife. I just had this beautiful experience there, and I looked to my left, and there was this, what I would call a mountain, and there was this being, what I maybe source. Was on this beautiful mountain, and I wanted so bad to get up that mountain. And I was sitting in this field, you know, playing with animals or whatever I was doing, you know. And it just like taking it all in. And the whole time I wanted my mommy, but not then, not then I looked at when I looked to my left, and I felt that it was like, I need to get up that mountain. I need to get up that mountain. And I wanted to feel this energy and this beam of radiance. Nothing you've ever seen, nothing you've ever felt, came toward me and it was pure, nothing you can imagine. I was everything and I was nothing. I was perfection. There wasn't anything wrong with me. I was perfect in every way, not practically perfect as Mary Poppins says, perfect in every way, and I remember that coming at me, just filling me with this sense of this is what Unconditional Love feels like. I've never felt it since I'm always looking for it, but I've never felt it. I looked to my right, and that an angelic being came floating towards me out of this. I call it a cobblestone cottage. It came out, and all I could think of was, I want to float. I wish I could float. I was floating, I'm sure, but I wanted to float. And that's all I could think of. And I was little, I was me, and I think when you're going to go back, you are you. But there was this beautiful pyramid, again, crystalline energy in front of me. It was shaped like a giant pyramid, but it was an energy. I've never seen anything so big. And I could see faces and bodies inside of this and this thing, and I wanted to put my hands in it, but I couldn't get through it. And I know now, if I had gotten through it, if I had been able to do that, I wouldn't have come back. It was the other side, it was the final and I was seeing faces, spirits on the other side. I was witnessing them and the love. It was like pulsating, just like every blade of grass, every flower pulsating with life, everything, everything, even your breath, if there was breath, would pulsate. And she said, It's time to go. And I didn't know how I felt about that, but I just knew that I was next to water at that moment, and she explained to me what water was for cleansing, and I thought she meant she's gonna clean me up, because I was in this field to go back to my mommy. That's what I thought she meant, like I'm gonna get washed. But that's not what she meant. And she said, everything is burst of water. And you know, later on in my journey, I know about the Claires. And Claire means Claire in French, and Claire's are what we learn to connect with the spirit world and to know our intuition, like clairvoyance, is clear, seeing what Claire means, and it's clear water, but water is extremely significant to us and to the spirit world. And she said, you know you're going to go through a lot of experiences on your journey, and you know, we want you to know you're gonna help people. Now during this time, I did see my mom. I remember seeing her, and I was talking to her, and she'd move her body like she was hearing me, but she said she didn't really hear me, but she felt me, and she was hearing your baby's in the freezer, and she wasn't listening because she was medicated from being institutionalized. She was on Valium, that's what they gave him, and so she didn't listen to her intuition. And so she had heard it three times before she realized, oh my god, this might be true. I'm not sure about what happened when she got to the garage, but I think she told me the garage door was closed, and if I recall, right? And she said she thought I couldn't open it, so I wasn't there, so she was going to turn around, and something told her, Oh my God, my baby's in the freezer. As she flung open the garage door, and she opened up the freezer, and I was facing inward, and when she spun me around, I was ashen, she said, and my fingertips and toes were blue, and I wasn't breathing. And there were no cell phones. There were no garage door openers. And that was in the my day she went to run and get a phone screaming for my sister, who I believe was at school. So you know, she was just screaming for help, and she dropped me because she was running to get a phone, and she was in a state of panic, and I was big enough at five that picking me up might not have been easy in a state of panic, and the neighbors all heard her screaming, and I fell, and I cracked open my jaw, which I still had my little scar. So when I got better, and really got better, which was like, 18 hours later I was back. Basically, my mom said that I would say, you know, I see people, and I said, they're under my bed, they're in the corner of my room. They're looking in my windows, they're in the hallway. They were everywhere. I couldn't even go potty. I wouldn't walk down the hallway without calling someone. I was terrified. I thought they were the boogeyman, and I would cover my head and say, Go, wake, awake away. And they didn't, but they never hurt me. And then when I wasn't scared anymore, and life was going on, I was five, you forget really quickly. You know your fears, if it's gone and they come again. And that was kind of my life journey. Self love is the most powerful lesson we have to learn here. And if we can get there, even for a moment, we want more of it, because it feels so good and through that, we learn to be an acceptance and love of others. We learn to grow and trust the journey, and that's the purpose.

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