A Boy’s Divine Encounter with Mahavatar Babaji with Rev. Bill McDonald

Alex Ferrari 0:00
Tell me what your life was like before you died.

Rev. Bill McDonald 0:08
When I was in India staying at Ashley, I'd go over India. I'd stayed three, four months. I was I wasn't just a visitor. I mean, I'd stay in really block off some time, and the guru I was staying with at the time said, I want you to go out and get a naughty a naughty palm leaf reading. And I said, I don't believe in fortune telling. He says, oh, no, no. This is different. This is different. I said, No. And I said, No, no, no, no. This is different. You need this. This will help you on your next stage of where you're going spiritually. And I'm going so he told me about what it was because I had no idea what it was. I'm thinking you're reading your palms or something, no, 2500 to 5000 years ago, these 18, I think there was 18 Rishis is holding men sages. They sat down and they channeled the lives of future people going to be born over the next several 1000 years, you know, 1000s of years. And they would write stuff down, and it was written on a palm leaf, you know, the hard part of the palm. They take the frongs off, and then they would, somebody would describe it and engrave it. Then it's shellac it. And it would last for, you know, a few 100 years, and then it deteriorates. Somebody had to redo it. So consequently, someone been redone a few times, which lends itself to errors just by the fact that somebody else redoing it. So I'm told that I'm going, Yeah, okay. So somebody 5000 years ago, or 2500 years ago, has written one of these for me. If you're supposed to have one, you will have one. And the first time I ever heard about these was from somebody that used to be in SRF, and he formed his own group, Ananda, brother kriya nada. He wrote a book about these things, prophecies and things and stuff. And at the time, I'm going, Yeah, okay, this is cool. I'm not much into it, even though I'm a new ager and a lot of neat stuff happens. But I'm not. I don't chase it. I'm not. I don't need to know who I was in the past lifetime. What this is, what that means. I just, I'm very childlike. I just enjoy, oh, that happened. Okay, that's cool. All right. So in this reading I had, and in this reading is interesting, because you go in there and you don't tell them any information. You just give them a thumbprint for your man, you give your right footprint woman, a left front print, and that's all they have. You put an issue or number, whatever you want, next to it, so they know who, who to call in. And so I gave it. I went to this place, and about three hours later, they call me. And now some places, they may not find that for six months or at all, you know, so, but I was gonna sit there until they found it, which is really crazy, because it could take months, you know. So, I mean, because these things are stored all over India, like about 20 different places, so you may go to this place and they don't have yours, it's in deli, and you're in Pune, you know, it's like, what I all I was going all the odds were against it, right? So I go in there. I said, I'm personally the guy calls me in, and then he pulls out these. They look like Phoenician blinds. They're stacked. They'll ask you a question. If you say, No, you put seven wide. That's not you. You go the next one. So this was on about the seventh one of this bundle. And I kept saying, No, it was close, but you know, no. So he finally goes, your name start. Your name is four letters long. Well, my nickname, The name I go by every day, is Bill, right? So I'm thinking William on the Yeah, okay, I'll give him that. Okay, it's good guess four letters bill, yeah. I said, Okay. He says, it starts with B. I go, okay. He says it's B, you or whatever they they mispronounced it, but it was like, B, I L. He spelled it out right phonetically on this thing. It's, it's all about sounds. It's not so much in English. I didn't know that at the time. He says, Your name is Bill. He says, And your father name was being implied that he's no longer around and your father's name was also the same exact name as yours. I'm William Hector McDonald Jr. My dad was senior, so it's exactly the same name as mine. So when he says you had the same exact name as your father, I thought that's pretty good. What do these guys on a Google search or something? What's going on here, right? So then he goes, and your mother's name is, they blew it. They're not saying Marcella, because it's kind of Italian sounding. Of Marcella. I finally figured out what he was saying every Yes, and they said, so both your parents are dead, yes. And then the guy goes, in order for you to know, this is when you're supposed to have your reading. This is the right time. I'm going to give you a piece of information. If this is correct, then we're going to go ahead with the reading. He says, this is written here as a play, but this is written 1000s of years ago, he says, and that it's the guy that's reading it, this guru guy goes, my intuition says, you recently worked on a movie. And I go, Yes, three weeks before, and but not as an actor. And I go, that's true, but nobody at the ashram knew that. And had I been in there the year before? It wouldn't have made any sense. And had I been in there a year later, would have been not recently? No, you know. So it was like, okay, that's the right time. Then he goes, your birthday is March between 14 and 16? Is that correct? I go, yes. Then he goes, 16th. That's pretty good. March 16. Okay. And then he goes, and your wife's name is Carol, girl. My dreams, right, to grow my visions. I go, yes, and you're still married to her. Yes. You got two children, a boy, then a girl. That was true. So it went through 40 different questions. Answered, Yes, all you know. You write books. You currently write a book about you. You know about the gurus ashram you're staying at you wrote a book about your life, work, spiritual books. You give lectures, you give them all that stuff is right on, and then it goes, and you got basically two gurus. And so they gave me that, and was Babaji, which nobody could be a direct disciple, but they said Babaji. And then this guy was with, you know, kind of like a live version. Then I thought that was the end of the reading that gave me a bunch of stuff, and I took out my wallet I was going to pay him. No, no, no, no, no. That was the reading. That's just the index card. So now we can pull up do reading on you. I go, what I just saw, we know we got the right guy. So that was bells and whistles. I thought was the reading, and it wasn't. So six hours later, I go upstairs, and then you have two interpreters, but it goes from one language this thing's in and he reads it, this other guy understands that, and he gives the language this other guy that, and then this other guy gives it to me in English. So they go and they gave me a past life reading. They took one past life that was significant, that was affecting me. So they picked one and said, you had a former lifetime, a significant lifetime in Sri Lanka, but you were the senior monk at an ashram run by the guy that you're presently staying at his ashram. You were at his ashram back then, and then the guru that sent me for this reading in a note or telephone conversation says, I want to know what his worst sin was. So basically, I go, this could be great, because I've seen people leaving that room earlier during the day that were crying. You know, one guy beheaded a bunch of people, somebody burned somebody alive, somebody was an adulterous and a crook and a criminal indict. I mean, all kinds of crazy stuff, right? So I've got my worst sin ever. So the guy says, Okay, I was told to give this to you. I'm going to tell you your worst sin ever. You're at the ashram. The guru was a married man. Had a beautiful wife, and you had a thought how beautiful she was, and you'd like to have her, and I'm going, that's it. Did I do anything? No, it's against your vows, but the guru reads your mind, and you were cursed and kicked out. So then you spent the rest of that lifetime wandering back on the mainland, on India and on the Ganges River, the last, last moments of your life, according to the reading, makes great story, last moments of life. I bathed in the Ganges I'm going underwater. I come up this blazing light, like sunlight right on top. And it's the light of Lord Shiva. Now you can't see Shiva, if you're alive, only if you did right? So there I am being made this light of Shiva. And I instantaneously become this rainbow, like a flight of filament of rainbow colors. And I just, I'm gone in this rainbow light. And then, according to the guy doing the reading, which makes great fiction, makes good storytelling around a campfire. But basically they said, This is how we read every one of your last 30 lifetimes, so far as we can go, every lifetime you ended in a rainbow body, and yet you keep choosing to come back pain and suffering over and over again, forgetting everything you who you were, what you were, and you come back time and time again to walk and tread this earth, to help and assist others. So he went on, and then they went on about now, let's read the future. He says, now your future's not very long. He says, this is like set in stone. He said, But we only see about it. This is 2010, we only see a decade. You're either going to die or Shiva or Babaji is going to ask you to stay. It's not your choice. If you stay, it's to work, not for you to rewrite more books, fool around, watch baseball games, you know. No, none of that. Otherwise, that's your choice. But 2020 there's something going on. If you're going to leave, that will be 2020 so on the predictions that they made for the future of those 10 years, everything except my death happened, and one of the things they predicted was at a certain date in the future, I was to travel to southern India, and I supposed to go to this special temple, and is sitting at the foot of some hill, mountain place. I was supposed to take a journey and walk uphill two to four hours, whatever it took walking up this hill. And the top of this hill waiting for me would be the rishis, and they would impart knowledge. And the guy goes, that's a strong word. He says, all they're going to do is awaken. He's going to open the door for you. Already have this knowledge. Now, the next year I come, I have a major heart attack. Lot of beautiful things happen. I see her test for I have vision of him. Things happen just I end up in a hospital in Sacramento, California, and I'm rolling in the operating room for quadruple bypass, open heart surgery, and the doctors telling me, as I'm laying naked on his steel, stainless steel table, butt naked, freezing my butt off. And I've never been in a hospital room, they don't have the temperatures up because they don't want bacteria to grow, right? So it's always cold. So I'm laying there, and I'm asking the doc. I said, Okay, Doc, what's gonna happen? He says, Well, I'm gonna give you a shot. You're gonna go unconscious six to eight hours from now, you'll be kind of coming out of it. We'll be through the surgery, and then I'll pull you out of that stupor when I think you're stabilized. We're going to cut and rip open your chest. It shows me this, this device that's it looks like pruning shears. It'll click, click, click, cut your ribs. And we're going to hold this thing open. It says, And then. Okay, we're going to cut and we're going to harvest some arteries from your legs, and we're going to harvest, you know, from your and then once we get all that stuff harvested, ready to go, he says, Hey, I'm going to stop I'm going to shock your heart and stop it, or whatever the holiday or stop it. I can't remember if they shock it and stop it. I don't know, somehow they stop it. So he says, I'm going to stop your heart, but I'm cutting your arteries and they're going into this heart lung machine, and we're going to pump blood through that and oxygenated from this big thing, so you don't have to breathe. Your lungs will be shut down. Your heart will be shut down. You're going to be artificially kept alive by this machine is going to pump oxygen into you. I look at the doctor going, Doc, if my heart's not beating and I'm not breathing, aren't I dead? And he laughed to go, oh, well, technically, well, you know, we're they keep me alive on this machine. You know, the flesh and blood's gonna be kept alive. Gives me a shot. He goes, count backwards from 100 I get to about 96 and darkness, that dark darkness I had as a child, except all of a sudden, I'm standing in my flesh and blood body in a patio area a square. It's all Cobblestone and everything. But I'm looking right at a temple, and it has this bull out there, you know, outside the temple, that's Shiva temple. It's got the bull right. And I look around, and people are bumping into me, and I feel them. They looking at me. And they feel me. They see me. I hear them well. Before I got here, I had no clothes on, so I kind of take a look. I got clothes on. So I'm a modest astral traveler. I replicated whatever I was fully clothed, and I got sandals on. And looking around, I go, what was the instructions I had the year before when you get to this temple? And I knew it was that temple, even though I couldn't remember the name of it. And I look up and there's a small path going up this hill. There's some pilgrims walking up there and stuff, and I'm going, I got nothing better do. The guy told me, six to eight hours on behalf, take a journey. I got sweat coming down. I'm feeling the uphill grade. I don't feel myself breathing. That's the only difference. I don't feel like I'm breathing, but I am moving. And my feet are moving. The body is functioning. And every once in a while, my body would have movement inside the chest. It was like there was hands and instruments and things going on. It was like there was surgery going on inside the body. It was like I could feel that there was things going on, right? So about two hours, whatever amount of time it was, I get to this rising at the top, and there's this grove sitting there, and sitting around are about 18 guys or so plus one. It's like Jamaica, all this crazy hairs, you know, and braids, weird stuff, weird beards, yeah, it's all that kind of weird stuff. I'm going in all sitting there, drawing logs. They're on rocks, they're standing they're fooling around. There's a campfire there. There's a mystery person or two there. But also joining this group was this guru that sent me to get that read. He was there, and I looked at him, and it's like, you know, what are you doing? What's going on? And so he looks at me, and he says, you can skip a beat or two, but don't give up heart. What do you mean? Don't give up heart. Said it to me a couple times. There's a part of it just says that body was so ravaged with pain, that body that I left was in such bad shit that was like my 10th, 11th or 12th heart attack. Can't remember which it was a bad shape. I may have had eight stents and everything. So there was a part of me that just wanted to go but then this beautiful female voice comes the clouds, goodness clouds. The clouds kind of roll out on this hilltop a little bit, and then I hear this voice coming from this cloud, and this woman's voice goes and it sounded like it was a very sensual, beautiful feminine voice. I mean, she was like, I'm picturing this 21 year old, beautiful, virgin lady, angelic, Romanian look gorgeous, and I hear this voice says, Bill, just give it up. Just let it go. Just stop. You've done enough. You've done what your karma says you're supposed to do. You don't have to do anything anymore. Let it go. I'm going to give you peace, bliss, joy and endless love. Wow, this is pretty good. Yeah, you know it's tempting. I'm going, yeah, yeah, okay. You know it's so then this guru guy there gathers at the astronaut. He goes, Yeah. He goes back to this skip a beat or two, but don't give up. Don't give up art, right? Don't give it up. And I go, why? She's promising me bliss, joy, love, what are you promising me? He says, you come back, you're going to experience more pain than you ever had your life. You're going to have to learn to deal with pain, because before you get pain and you just bliss out, done with pain, you know, but now that gift is gone, you're going to have to learn how to handle pain like a regular person, so you can teach others. I go, sorry, so give me the straight so I stay, I get great pain. I leave, I get no pain. And then he finally goes, No Look at this. And pretty soon, those clouds, remember, those clouds were filled with visions of the future. These were just images of faces, children, even animals, old people, young people, teenagers, 30s, 40s, Indians, Mexicans, Irishmen, black spanics. Didn't matter what they were, it was 1000s and 1000s and 1000s of faces. And this guru was saying, if you don't go back in this next decade or so, all these people will miss something. They don't have to have it, but they will miss something a gift from you, even if it's just a smile or understanding, a healing, spiritually, mentally, physically, spiritually, maybe you'll befriend somebody. And that makes their day. Maybe you'll inspire somebody, he says, but everyone, these people, will miss something from their lives. In the end, what did you add to this creative world? What did you add to anybody's life? So at the end, it's not about who loves you, because that could be influenced by money, fame, fortune, not who loves you, but who did you love? So to be successful, in a way, there's an ego on my part, also says to be successful. I hope I've missed to me, there's only one, there's just one, there's no time, there's no space. It's just the oneness. You call it, maybe consciousness, but it's just oneness. There's no separation between us. Only in our minds is there separation, but in reality there's when we awake, we know that we're God. There's no logic to retain this memory of who you are. There's separation. So no, God is not a person, a gender, Jesus, a Buddha is only love. So if anything's definitive, I'd say whatever love is, that's God to love and to serve without question.