Sometimes, in the middle of the everyday—while wiping fingerprints from a wall or picking up children’s toys—something profound can pierce the veil of the mundane. In this episode, we are invited into the cosmic mystery by Lynn K. Russell, a seasoned researcher who has studied over 2,500 near-death experiences (NDEs) and uncovered astonishing insights about the soul, consciousness, and why we are here.
Lynn K. Russell is a near-death experience researcher and spiritual explorer who began her lifelong quest for truth after being deeply afraid of death as a child raised by an atheist mother.
In this conversation, she reveals that it wasn’t death that sparked her journey, but life itself—three spontaneous mystical experiences that occurred in the middle of ordinary days. First, while gazing at an apple tree through her kitchen window, she became the tree. Not just the tree, but the bird in the branches, the insect on the bark, even the fish in the sea. There was no separation, only being. “I was everything,” she said. In that moment, all sense of self dissolved into the fullness of existence.
Days later, a second vision came—one that began with the structure of an atom and expanded outward through the solar system, the galaxy, and into the infinite cosmos. She felt the pulse of a grand intelligence, the knowing that the universe is no accident, but meticulously created with order and love. Yet, the most unsettling realization came with the message: “Your being is intricately connected with the operation of the universe.” A truth that terrified her, even as it awakened her.
The third experience, tender and wordless, enveloped her in a presence of overwhelming love. She couldn’t see it, but she felt it infuse her being. Then she heard the words: “This is where you came from, and this is where you will return.” That voice, that presence, undid her fear of death. It brought her home before her body ever left.
From that moment, she dedicated herself to the study of NDEs—not just out of curiosity, but a soul-deep yearning to understand what lies beyond. What she discovered over decades of research is not just that death isn’t the end, but that life is infinitely more than we think. People from all backgrounds and beliefs returned with visions of light, unity, and love. Some became the light itself, dissolving all boundaries of self and memory. “They became creators with the light,” she explained, merging with the very intelligence of the universe.
In her gentle and grounded way, she dismisses dogma and spiritual ego. “There is no best religion,” she says. “Whatever draws you closer to Source is the right path for you.” She even questions the idea that everything is predestined. Some things are meant to be, she admits, but not all. We have free will, and sometimes, the plan we made before we were born doesn’t unfold as we’d hoped. And yet, there is no hurry—our soul will return to the task again and again, across lifetimes, until it is fulfilled.
The greatest illusion, she believes, is separation. We are not separate from God, each other, or the universe. Everything we experience, even suffering, contributes to the awakening of Source. Life is Source discovering itself through our eyes, our hands, our stories. “Love is the essence of who we are,” she says. “Be the love that we are.”
SPIRITUAL TAKEAWAYS
We are co-creators with the universe – At the deepest levels of consciousness, we are not just observers of the cosmos; we are participants in its unfolding.
Love is the essence of everything – Beyond all form, identity, and belief lies love—pure, creative, intelligent love—that binds all things together.
Life is a divine experiment in knowing the Self – Every experience, joyous or painful, adds to Source’s understanding of itself through us.
In the end, this conversation with Lynn K. Russell is not just a journey through near-death experiences—it’s an invitation to remember that we are not waiting to become divine. We already are. Our lives, with all their mess and mystery, are the sacred ground where Source meets itself in human form.
Please enjoy my conversation with Lynn K. Russell.
Follow Along with the Transcript – Episode DE058
Alex Ferrari 0:00
Tell me what your life was like before you died.
Lynn K. Russell 0:08
I was a single parent. I had three children. They were 3, 4, 5, and 6, so the two older ones yeah in the afternoon, and the two older ones were in school, and the youngest one was down from the afternoon nap. And that was significant, because my kids were very active. And so the fact that it was always I had three experiences on completely different days. I had no idea they were coming, or I would have noticed. And so the first experience, I'm doing dishes, and as I see, the place is quite quiet, and there's a window above my sink, and I can see into the yard. And in the yard there's a tree, an apple tree, and I'm just looking at the tree, and I'm really not thinking about anything, and all of a sudden I became the tree, and it was like my consciousness was taken over, and I literally became that tree. And the tree was me. There was no separation at all, and I was every kind of life form that I could think of. I was the bird in the tree. I was in Bucha that the bird was going to eat. I was everything, and fish and other kinds of animals, everything I thought of, I was it. And that was the end of the experience. It was like maybe 30 seconds long. And then the next experience was a few days later, and this time, I'm wiping fingerprints off the whole wall, and I'm just looking at the wall. And again, I'm not thinking of anything, and the place is quiet, and all of a sudden I'm seeing an atom with the electrons going around. And then I see our solar system with the Sun and the planets going around. And then that expanded to our galaxy. And Sister galaxies, what I call sister, I think they're called clusters. So it was like micro to the macro universe. And while I'm getting this into this, this expansion, I'm getting messages that this didn't just happen, that there was order and planning and an intelligence behind it all. And that was really cool. I really enjoyed that, but then I got a message that I really did not like at all, and that was the end of the experience. And that message was that my being was intricately connected with the operation of the universe, and I couldn't get that That scared me, because I thought, What do you mean? What am I supposed to do? I'm really, this was in 73 so 1973 so I really had no idea about any of this kind of thing. And then another thing that happened again, as I say, that was the end of that experience. And then a few days later, I'm in the living room, picking up toys and tidying up, and I felt a presence in the room with me. And there was, it was like I couldn't see anything. I could just see my living room. That was it. But there was more love. Like it was like I was being surrounded, impregnated with with more love than I could ever imagine, and it felt like I was connected somehow to this, whatever this, I called it positive energy force. So this positive energy force, I felt like I was connected. And then I heard words very clearly that said, this is where you came from, and this is where you will return. And that was the last of my experiences, but that one taught me that not to be so afraid of death, because this was such a beautiful experience. It was during my experience I started researching when I was 16, and this was when I was mid to 30s, and I before that, when I I was so frightened of death, that was what the whole thing was about. I wanted to find out what happened when you died. And my mother, being an atheist, had told me, I just disappear. And I was an eight year old when she told me that I didn't disappear, and so I wanted to find a better answer. And that was the beginning of my my studies. And then that branched out from there. And there was only in those days, because we're going back to the 1950s and so in those days, there was only religion. There was no spiritual kind of thinking at all. And so I studied all the religions and their histories, and what I found out I was looking for was truth. That was, that's what it down to. I was searching truth. But first of all, we. Create our own experiences. We the death experience is what we think should happen. So that's point one. So that's why the variation between them and why different cultures will have different kinds of experiences is because we created the other thing was that almost universally, everybody would feel this oneness. They didn't call it that. Some did, some didn't, but they would say, I felt like I was connected to everything, and everything was connected to me. You know, they really were very blown away by that. That was that was very significant for quite a few people. Well, many, many people, because we are steeped in this existence, we see ourselves as as physical, and we continue to see ourselves physical. We've seen our body lying there, but we take a body with us, an ethereal body, and we created an ethereal world, and that's our creation. So whatever is our favorite place, I want to go to the beach. Those are the kind of experiences. But there's another experience that even goes much, much deeper, and these are people who enter into the light. Now there's two levels of that. There's those who enter into the light continue to see themselves as themselves and experiencing personal experiences, and then leave and communicate with the light, because the light is us, is a being with intelligence and great sense of humor. So but the other thing is that people will become the light. They melt and absolutely are the light. And when they're there, they become creators with the light. And they can go back to the beginning of the beginning of the beginning, and they're, you know, I mean, there is no real beginning, but back to the beginning of our Newton universe, and watch how it created and how it all evolved, and gain vast amounts of information. And sometimes they bring that information back, and sometimes they don't, unfortunately, but anyway. But the point is that they lose that concept of self and become this delight. And when they lose the concept of self, they're aware that they were that person at one point in time, and that they were these other light forms, you know, like pop forms, but reincarnated lights. And so they remember all of those, but they're just learning experiences. It doesn't have any major significance. And so they I really think that is the most significant death experience of all, is when they melt, come the light. One of the things that's asked of the light is which religion is the best one, or the right one, or the whatever. And repeatedly, people are told whatever religion fits for that person is there isn't one. So if it brings the person close to source and closer to God, then reincarnation, go back to being source and source. Here's how I explain it, if we could just imagine being this incredible intelligence, and I don't even know how to save me, but just this entity that's amazing, and it's all alone in nothingness with just blackness around, no sounds, no sight, nothing. And if that were the case, creation would happen in a second, when a nanosecond, because the entity would not know that it was, or even if it did know it was, it wouldn't know anything about itself. So creation is to give back to source. That's what creation is for, and that's what we are. We are giving back our the life that we live gives back to source. And so that's the most important. Some people see it in detail. Some people just highlights and how we affect other people and how we Yeah, and that's the main point. Is it doesn't matter about our wealth, or, you know, how famous we are, or any of that. It's, you know, it's how we affected the world and other people. And so that is the significance. But the life review, there is no judgment, kind of because we judge ourselves, but we take the consequences of our actions by reliving the experience we provide for others before we come into this life experience our souls, the soul that says, Okay, I'm going to be a person. Chooses a task that they want to accomplish in this life, and then with that task, they choose all the elements within their life that will help them to guide them towards that task. And so they will choose significant people, not everybody they ever meet, but the main people that are going to be in their lives that will guide them or or that the interaction will be significant to guide them in the right direction. Then there's the events in our lives, whether you know, and not every again, not every event, but the major events and that will help us to lead us in certain directions. And then there's the ourselves. We choose everything about ourselves, the color, the nationality, the country, every single thing that is going to be significant, it would be our baby toenail, if it was significant to guiding us, however, there is a creep out on that, because sometimes we don't get to do whatever it is that we came here to do for various reasons, because not everything is meant to be. And I don't like this statement of everything is meant to be, because it's not some things are meant to be, but some things that are meant to be don't happen. The person that we are going to be interacting with leaves this world before we get to that, or some accident happens and changes things, or we just goof off and say, I don't want and we're just going to be you know, and so everything isn't written in stone. And because there is no time at the spirit level, it doesn't matter how long it takes us. We can have by place if we want to accomplish our tasks. The point is that we are going to accomplish that task, whether it's five or whether it's one, it doesn't matter. And some, some people will will ask, take me to a planet, another planet, where there's life, you know, in the in this universe. And they will take, be taken there. Okay, here you are. And then they'll also be taken. One person, I remember, asked to take me to the most advanced and he went to this place where they didn't communicate this verbally. They telepathic. And they were almost surreal. They were, you know, this, this life form, but, but almost like a ghost, almost. But then they asked to go to one of the least evolved planets, and they went to something like, you know, Caveman kind of thing, or very primitive life forms. I think that God love is the love that we feel is our reconnection to the power or the essence of our being, which is love. I think God's essence is love, and that love is the power that it creates with. So that would be one thing, but also consciousness. So I see God as a positive, creative force. I don't see God as a person or a being, or any as a matter of fact, to be honest, I don't even think there's a light. I think people see light because we need something to relate to. But I think, in reality, source, or the positive energy doesn't have anything. It's just being intelligence. Love is the essence of our being Love is the essence of who we are. We are created in love, and we are love. And so my motto when that dip at the bottom of my when I send things out, is to be the love that we are, because that's that's our reality of giving back to source, to being to helping source, to be to experience and know it so.
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