Atheist Woman Dies in Stampede! What She Saw Will Change Everything! with Lesley Lupo

When the body breaks, something ancient in us awakens—a knowing that whispers, “You are more than this shell.” On today’s episode, we welcome Lesley Lupo, a woman who discovered firsthand that death is not the end, but rather a revelation that opens into boundless love. A former atheist, Lesley Lupo was trampled by stampeding horses at a ranch in Arizona—and in that violent, life-shattering moment, she was lifted into a realm of awe, light, and a profound remembrance of who we truly are.

In this profound conversation, Lesley Lupo shares her extraordinary near-death experience with vivid clarity, bringing us along as her spirit detached from her broken body. She speaks of watching her own physical form fall beneath galloping hooves, not in horror but in a strange and sacred peace—as though slipping off a jacket no longer needed. “I knew I was dead,” she recalls, “and yet I felt more alive than ever.” The pain stayed with the body; her consciousness soared.

What followed was not a void, not punishment, but joy. Lesley entered a place she lovingly calls “upstairs,” where colors glowed with inner light, and fear could not exist. In this luminous forest-like realm, familiar beings welcomed her—some of whom she had encountered as a child, radiant presences she once mistook for angels. With wonder, she describes a landscape where nothing casts a shadow, and love pulses from every vine, stone, and breeze. “It’s like the whole tree is lit from within,” she says, trying to describe the indescribable.

She was given a choice: to stay in that paradise or return to Earth. At first, she wanted nothing more than to remain. But in a sacred council surrounded by eleven beings of light, she understood that returning served a higher purpose. She glimpsed a vast consciousness—what some might call Source—an awareness that adored her not despite her flaws, but because of them. That love was not conditional, not hierarchical. It simply was. “It was aware of me,” she said, “and it adored me.”

One of the most stirring insights Lesley shares is the idea that no one being will save humanity. It will take all of us, linked together, hearts aligned, dropping the weapons of belief to embrace the sacred diversity of how we love God. She saw that humanity’s evolution depends on our cooperation, on kindness, on the small acts of helping one another grow, even if only by an inch. The world she glimpsed does not demand perfection—it only asks us to love, to grow, and to help.

Returning to life wasn’t easy. The physical world, compared to what she experienced, seemed dull, limited, even confusing. But Lesley carries with her now a sense of mission: to share the beauty of what awaits beyond the veil and to inspire hope. Her life is now dedicated to growth, creativity, and service. “The single thing that makes us happiest is helping someone,” she tells us, “even if it’s just an inch.”

SPIRITUAL TAKEAWAYS

  1. Death is not an ending but a transition into a heightened awareness of life, love, and connection.
    Lesley’s near-death experience reveals a realm where all senses are amplified and joy is the natural state.

  2. The Source, or Divine, is unconditional love that both knows and adores us completely.
    The love Lesley encountered was not earned—it simply was, and it embraced her in total acceptance.

  3. We evolve not through individual heroism, but by coming together in compassion.
    Her message urges us to link arms, help one another, and realize that collective love is humanity’s true salvation.

In the end, what we often fear most—death—may be the very gateway to remembering the truth of who we are: not bodies with souls, but souls having a fleeting dance in these fragile forms. The invitation is not to wait for the other side to remember this, but to live it now—in joy, in service, and in love.

Please enjoy my conversation with Lesley Lupo.

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Alex Ferrari 0:00
Tell me what your life was like before you died.

Lesley Lupo 0:08
I went down. Horses are very unpredictable, and we had a cowboy who had come to work, and he was still intoxicated from the night before. So I sent him home, because you don't want an accident. So I jumped into the wrangling department. I was helping out, and at the end of the day, we were unsettling. Well, I was bringing all the horses in to be unsettled, and there was one horse we had called Houdini that could get out of any knot or any corral. We had to keep him separate, and he undid the latch, and he ran down to the hay barn with his store with his saddle on. And so I was like, Oh no, because if they roll, they can break their back because of the saddle. They'll a lot of horses go out there and start rolling. And another horse had gotten down. So I grabbed a couple halters. I told the guys, I'll go get them. And I started going down, and I saw that they were standing right next to each other, and I thought, oh, that's terrific. I'll just go in between. I'll get them both at one shot, because they are like, you know, they're like, glued into each other, eating, and they're ignoring me, and I'm trying to poke my way through. And so finally, I was at a point where I turned around and I grabbed the backs of the saddles, and I was trying to push my way through between them, and all of a sudden, I left my body. I and if it was, if you had said to me, right, then, what is this? I would have said, It's my mind. You know, is leaving because and I it was as if I went to back 15 feet or so, and I was watching what happened. And I was like, really shocked. I was so shocked, I couldn't even think, you know, it was just watching. And then all of a sudden, one of the horses screamed and started running, and I was had them turned around, and I watched what happened, and that spun me around, and my arm went into the saddle, you know where the stirrup is, up to my armpit, and I was struggling to keep my balance as these horses were running, and the one horse that I was in the saddle was upset, because it's like, if there's A mountain lion behind me, you're holding me back here lady and is kicking at me and hitting me trying to get me off, and then finally, like scraped me off by running me into the hay barn, which is concrete, and it crushed my skull. And I watched myself drop, you know, I mean, I was still stuck in the stirrup for another step or two. And then it was really interesting, because as I watched, it wasn't that difficult to watch. It was almost like watching you take off a jacket and throw it on the bed you're done with it. If there was a certainty that this is no big deal. You're just choosing to let go of your body in that way. And I remember thinking, I wonder if everyone leaves their body, because the one thing I knew was that I was dead. I knew it was not a dream. I knew it was not going to be I was unconscious. I knew that I was dead. It was very it was a certainty, like I'm talking to you. And the other thing, I started laughing, because I didn't feel anything of the distress. I mean, my body fought and screamed in pain and terror. If somebody had witnessed that, they would have said, Oh my god, she suffered horribly. And yet I didn't. I didn't suffer at all because I didn't, kind of know what was I mean, I was watching it, and I felt this peacefulness and this kind of like, I don't know if you would call it wisdom, to know that I was okay, the body wasn't, and I'm not the body at that moment, and then I started kind of like I felt lighter. It's almost like cells separated, and this beautiful little breeze was going through, and I felt very light, and I felt so much joy and all my senses, it's almost like I felt twice as alive as I did when I was in the body, because all my senses were completely awakened, like I'm looking at you. And if you notice, as you get on your peripheral vision a little further, it gets blurry. Well, it wasn't blurry, it was all sharp, and I could hear so many sounds that would have been faint, where I could hear them, I knew what they were, the birds or the lizards crawling around. You could hear them scrabbling along, and the colors, the smells and everything was beautiful. It wasn't like I was being overloaded with information, it was just like really looking at everything in a way I had never even seen it as much as I loved the ranch and loved the horses, and I loved nature. It was even more beautiful that way. And I just had to kind of try to adjust to that, because I felt like really electric, and everything was in my brain, or my consciousness was moving very quickly, but I was right in step with it. I didn't see 360 but my my peripheral vision was much wider. Was more than 180 Well, I saw down at the very bottom of the field, at the horse the pen. Horse, pen, the last two rides coming in, they were the fast rides, and I felt such nostalgia, because I used to bring the rides in. You lift up them, you bring them in. But then everyone saw me, and they raced over. And it's hard to explain how you move, because it's not like linear walking like this. It's just I look someplace and I'm there. So they were all clustered around the body, and then I was there, right next to them, and they were turning me over, and this one man started doing CPR on me, and another man jumped off his horse, and they were helping them. And the cowboys were taking the horses away, but the people had stayed, because the guests all knew who I was. You know, they the one thing about this ranch is people, like 70% of the people that go go back. So it's like a big family every week. So they all knew me, and they tried to resuscitate me and and I'm like, no, no, I'm fine. Don't do it. Don't do it because I didn't want I liked where I was and then, but everything now. I've heard some people talk about a tunnel of light where they're going up, and I felt like I was above the ground. But it's almost as that everything started changing around me, like Tucson stated, started fading out, and the upstairs faded in, and I felt like things were moving. And there were these three beings that looked like bright light that were kind of going around me, almost like to keep me from whatever I don't even know, getting bumped or something. And then finally, this other world, which is like a beautiful forest with vines and a stream in it and all that, just kind of started coming into view. And that's when I would had completed my transition upstairs. Is what I called it. I was groggy. Was as alert as I was on earth at this vibration. I guess I was very groggy when I first got there. I think the first thing that really hit me was that I could feel no fear. It's as if all that fight or flight or freeze reflex that we have in our DNA, in our very core animal brain was gone. And everything was so beautiful, all the things like the trees and the flowers and the vines and the ferns, everything was it had like an iridescence on it. So if you look at a ribbon that's white, or, then you look at a ribbon that's white with iridescence, it's like, this is earth, this is heaven. And just looking at everything, it was like I was just marveling. I was just walking around the the amount of love that you're getting from everything you're seeing was it's indescribable. And the interesting thing is, if you ever go out, like a day break or sunset, and you look at a tree and the sun's behind it, and all the leaves are lit, now you have to picture the whole tree is like that, and the bark is lit, and everything is almost like lit from within, there wasn't like shadows, like we have, like I live in a little forest, and I'm looking out the window and I see a lot of shadows. There weren't any shadows, but everything was kind of glowing in itself. And then I noticed a table, and again, there were some people standing around it. So I went over there, and they were all like, welcome back, you know, and and it's as if I knew them. And then I noticed the woman that was sitting to my left was a woman that when I was really young, I would see some of these light beings around. And I thought everyone could see them, but they couldn't. So I got teased about it, until I realized, okay, they can't see them. I was like, 564567, and they would just appear. Sometimes it's almost like I heard these chimes, and then or you'd feel like a sense of everything, kind of. Of lightning up like cooler air and and a little breeze when there was you're in the house, and then I would see one of these beings, and they would never talk to me, just once we talked, but they would the love that I felt, and I was a gifted student, so to keep me happy in school when you were teaching things like reading and writing and all that, because I could do that when I was in kindergarten. Then they put me in the library, and I would read encyclopedias, which I thought was really cool. So I was trying to figure out who these people were. And I figured they weren't devils, because I was being raised Catholic, so they must be angels. And so because they I always felt so happy and loved. I just felt so much love coming off of them. And then I noticed there were a couple of of these light beings that I had seen when I was on earth. But the only two people that talked to me on this table, there was 11 people. We sat down and we started talking, and I was feeling very groggy, and at times when it was interesting, because if I'd ask a question, like Mina was on my left and Raul was on my right, and Mina would start to answer, or I'd get one word, but the whole thing, like, was An immediate download. So like, in my book, there's times when we have conversations that go on for pages, but the whole conversation was like immediately downloaded and comprehended immediately. So then they told me I had the choice, that I could choose to stay up there, or I could go back to Earth. Now, if I had made that decision right then I would not have come back. It was so nice. And so Rahu said, Let's we went to a place. It was a place that I used to like to go to. There's a big cave up behind a waterfall, and I used to go and meditate in there and on the way there is when I saw this amazing light. I don't even know how to describe it. It was just this ball of consciousness which I came to realize was like the source or the ultimate consciousness, and it was aware of me with all my little quirks and foibles. It was aware of me and adored me. And if you remember from childhood, we are taught to adore God, and for really lucky God will like us or pat us on the head, you know? And this was like I could feel this intense love from me, and then I could also feel this adoration back coming towards me like this complete and head to toes. And then I noticed something else. When I was looking up at the sky, it was a different type of sky. It was almost like Patchwork, instead of one solid color. And I noticed it was like I was looking through the floor of another realm. And Ron, who explained that to me, he said, there's many realms. There's, you know, multitude of realms. And you can go up and you can turn around, and you can come down, and you can go into the divine, well, I called it the divine, like the you can go all the way up to the top and come back again. So and things. This is a problem, because some of the times I asked a question upstairs, and they answered me, it made perfect sense. And then when I came back to Earth, I'm like, what did they mean by that? You know, it's like my brain is back in gear in the human body. I'm like, Hmm, I should have taken notes or something. You know, one of the biggest lessons, I think that I heard was the fact that it's not going to be like one person being able to change the course of history anymore. There's too many people, but the more that we link arms and work together, which is so nice when you see people of different religions putting down the swords and the guns and saying we all love God in our different ways, and the respect that goes in to people that realize these are things that are not worth dying over, and the fact that people are becoming more global and working for global goals. And you know, healing the earth, and you know, the weather and the the they're beginning to say that there's more important things than one person hoarding it all, and that it has to be shared. To me, God is only love. There's no judgment, there's no hatred, there's no vindictiveness, like in a lot of different religions, God is the purest sense of feeling adoration and feeling how to feel adoration. I mean true adoration and feeling adored in return. It's the highest level of love and total acceptance to grow. Learning to grow. I'm going to learn and grow until I die. I'm never going to sit down. You know, I'm retired, but started a new career. I'm taking classes and making art again because I had a psych degree and I had an art degree when I graduated, so I'm going back to my art. And the purpose of life is to help others. I think the single thing that makes us happiest is we can help someone just even an inch, and you can see them be able to do it themselves and take care of themselves, and they don't have to keep coming back, you know, for an adjustment. I think the the core is, is helping others and installing hope for others.

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