Follow Along with the Transcript – Episode DE039
Alex Ferrari 0:00
Tell me what your life was like before you died.
Dr. Rod Chelberg 0:08
I had in second grade A strep infection that went into my kidneys and shut them down. So I was in the hospital, quite sick, and I was treated with penicillin. So before that, I was what you would call a normal kid, and during a two week hospital stay in the middle of that, I had an allergic reaction to the medicine, and I stopped breathing. It went into my lungs, and I couldn't breathe. So that was the start. Seven years old, I didn't know what was going on. The experience was that I knew I was dying. I started to develop tunnel vision and could not see that everything was getting black, and then finally, I lost all vision. I couldn't see anything, and I had this impending feeling of death, of suffocation. I just couldn't breathe. Somewhere in there, I started to float out of my body, and it was a feeling of a movement. And I saw in this vast darkness a brilliant white light, and I started to float towards it. So all thoughts of rod, all thoughts of hospital, of death, that all left me, and I was drifting towards this light. I felt tremendous peace, love and comfort. And as I was getting closer and closer, those feelings got stronger, and I knew everything was fine. When I got to the edge of it, I started to see that inside of it was a large sphere of white light, beautiful white light. And I was like, I'm home. I'm going in. But at that moment, the staff, they started rescue medications, and immediately I was yanked back into my body with quite a thrust. There's a little child that I didn't know what that was, and everybody was happy, and I didn't think anything of it. I said, it must have been a dream, but I could breathe again and and so, but I was left with tremendous peace and security. And so whatever that was, it came back with me, which was wonderful. So that's about the extent of what I remember as a as a seven year old kid, what I didn't realize is that I picked up three very special gifts that were planted inside of me, and they didn't manifest until I was later in life. Came to fruition, shall we say? Well, the first, the first gift was I could see people's colors, their auras on their hearts, and I saw three colors, red, blue and green. And I later learned in life that green is divine life, blue is divine creativity and red is divine love. So there's where I learned my second gift is that I could leave my body. I could lay down in bed and get very comfortable, and I would float. And at first I would just float around my room. And thought, this is really nice. We had a farm, small crop farm in Minnesota. So I went out around the farm, and I could see Dad, I could see the buildings, but they couldn't see me. I was about 10 feet off the ground. And then I thought, I wonder if I can go farther than this. And so I did. I went to Paris, and I was down the going down a street I could as clear as any memory of I have. I could see the Eiffel Tower. I could see the red checkered tablecloths, the people. It was just so peaceful and pleasant and blissful. That was my last journey Paris. Then the third gift that I developed was the ability to meditate on a very deep level and connect with divine consciousness, being able to get extremely quiet into the deepest stages of meditation and feel that Divine Presence within me, connecting to it, and it's just like you're being held by love. I started seeing colors again. I saw colors on people's hearts, red, green and blue. And then I started to see auras on people. I went to a play with a friend, and I was kind of like feeling cocky, and I looked over there, and I said, No, see that guy over there? Yeah. Well, he's gonna die, because I could see his black aura. And my friend just grabbed my arm and said, That's my uncle. He died of metastatic prostate cancer six months later, and he didn't tell anybody. So I decided I'm going to keep my mouth shut. It's just been better that way. So many times I see things and I just like, yeah, they're fine. I became very comfortable with a presence always on my right side. It really started the emergency room where there's a lot of chaos and trauma and insanity going on, and I was reading the Course in Miracles and meditating, and the voice started coming to me. The lady came in, and she was professionally dressed, unresponsive, and obviously she's going to die, and that's it. That's all the information I get. She collapsed at work. So the voice said to me, this lady has Tylenol poisoning, so we gave her the antidote and saved her life. But the voice was as clear as me and you speaking right now, and very forceful, and I had no doubt my peers are looking at me. Why are you doing a tox screen on this patient? She probably had a heart attack or a seizure. Well, I listened to the voice and. Then I started to trust that voice. So I'll just give you another example. A 15 year old child comes in, and he was in this playground running, and he fell. He passed out for a second, scanned his knees, got up. No big deal. Right after dinner, they decided maybe we should go to the ER and have them checked out. It's at the end of my shift I'm looking at going home, and they gave me this. My shift ends at seven, 630 this young child comes in. He's got banged up knees. He feels fine, completely, no symptoms whatsoever. And Christ said, very clearly, put your hand and touch him. And as I did this, he said, This child has metabolic syndrome. It's just a disease that kids get. It's rare. And he said this child had VTAC, which is a malignant heart rhythm. Because he had a heart attack, that's why he fell. So he said, Get a cardiac enzyme. Now, kid comes in with skneeze, and I'm ordering a heart test to see if he had a heart attack, and my nurses are snickering and laughing and like He's lost it. He needs to go home. Well, it came back extremely elevated. Normal is around 0.01 this was like 3.57 okay. He's had a heart attack, and he ended up going to Boston. We shipped him to Boston, and he had what's called the widowmakers lesion in his left main artery. It's lethal. He had 95% closure, so they're able to stent it and saved his life. That's the power of that voice when it starts to come. I've seen Christ in this human plane, the astral plane, etheric plane. Christ is just. I can call him Jesus. I can call him the Holy Spirit. It's the voice of God. It's the divine. I grew up Catholic. It's what I'm comfortable with. But when this voice talks to you, you can name it Fred, it doesn't matter. He doesn't care. I always see Christ as red as a red bead, and it's usually when somebody's dying. So the first really profound experience I had was an 80 year old woman came in who was in cardiac arrest and coding. And we ran the code for 20 minutes. She wasn't she was flatlined the whole time. It said time to quit. And so everybody left the room. And I've always I like to pray for my patients when they pass away. So I'd hold their hand against my heart, and I decided this time I'm going to ask Christ to come. So Jesus, please come and take this lady home, rather than Our Father, who art in heaven. In that instant, this beautiful lady, her aura became white to me laying on the gurney, and she sat up, and I could see her face, and she said, thank you. And then the next thing I saw was the red aura of Christ. It's just a bead. And the two merged together and went across my visual field and up into these, these golden gates that opened up, and then two beautiful hands came out and pulled them in. I call that process now, birthing somebody into heaven. And every trauma patient or people who have died, I always see this every time when I ask. So that's the vision of gifts, having the vision of knowing, the presence, hearing and seeing on this plane, going into the Astro plane. That's that's a slightly different story I learned. I thought, wouldn't it be fun to fly again, like I did was a kid, I really enjoyed it. So I learned that I could still do that. So I would lay down. Usually when I meditate, I sit, but when I travel, I'm laying down in the bed, and I relax. So over a span of two years, I would take trips, and most of times I would go around the Earth, traveling around. And I could go faster and faster. That was really fun. But then I thought, I wonder if I can go farther. The underlying story here is that my mind is expanding and going to infinite dimensions. So then I went to the moon, then I went to the sun, then I went inside the sun. Watched at a molecular level, all the molecules colliding. Then I flew through our Milky Way. Then I went beyond the Milky Way into some sort of a purpley plane. But my mind was getting bigger and bigger and bigger. I came to the edge of the purple plane, and I saw, this is the edge of what I call the separated mind, that being here, we believe we're separate from God. Well, there's, there's an edge to that. So I see the edge of this plane, and I'm looking at a waterfall of clouds, and what I call Christ, came through that cloud grabbed me and pulled me through. In this instance, Christ was white, and I could see him. And peppered in with this. There's many other instances, but I think you get the idea being pulled into that white light, all concepts of rod, time, space, it's all gone, and you become a pure thought of awareness, a pure thought of love, and you see just a beautiful white sphere of infinite dimensions become one that being that I call Christ, guided me and eventually brought me and said, Do you want to meet God? And I thought, Okay, I got to think about. About that because of my Catholic upbringing, when that loving presence Christ said, Stay here, just stay and that loving presence comes that is incredible, that you're surrounded and filled with love and tremendous peace, joy and happiness. I can't even describe it. It's inevitable. It was a complete acceptance, a complete oneness, a complete knowing. There was never doubt. In all the times I've heard, there's never doubt because you connect with something that is so profound, the doubt is gone. It just it's the way it is. This voice is so powerful and clear. There's no doubt in your mind, and you don't even care what others think. They can't believe I'm doing what I'm doing. There's this snickering in the background, and when I'm right, people are astounded, like, how did you do that? So they finally just said, you know, he's just really smart. He's just really a smart doctor. And I said, What? In my mind? I never said this to people, but I'm not that smart, but what I'm good at is listening, because I've learned to trust that voice, and that voice then tells me what to do to save someone's life. I'm no longer on the auspicious of the board or my colleagues. I have self diagnosed myself that I have divine schizophrenia, and because schizophrenia is I see things and hear things that you don't, that's the definition of it. Human schizophrenia is you want to hurt somebody, but divine is this where I see and hear and am guided, and I've learned to be quiet and just let that voice guide me and channel what needs to come out. So I like that diagnosis during medical school, when I started residency, would be the time that I noticed it, because of the stress of what you have to do, and most people get upset and angry and burned out. And I found that learning to relax and, in essence, take a step back from the insanity, the appearance of what's going on, and that created a presence, and that's what you're feeling, is that that I've learned to step back, and that allows, I call it, creating a space for God to step into that place of peace, and then so the God is in front of me and goes before me in every situation, and I've learned to nurture that and all day long, for me, it's a constant meditation. In my own life, I had a massive stroke that took out my right side, and I was at the point of death. They gave me TPA, and it's a clot buster, so I'm paralyzed in the ER. And that voice told me, see, I didn't see Christ at that point, but the ER turned all white, and the voice said, You were going to walk out of here. And so the next day, I walked out of that hospital having been completely paralyzed on my right side, so that loving voice, yes, did talk to me on a very deep level and on several other occasions. So I've had three cancers. I've had colon cancer, kidney cancer and testicular cancer. It's a stress manifestation from working in the emergency room, and they are very tough shifts, 14 hours of just getting hammered. And I did that for 14 years, and it just builds up, the stress just gets pushed down. And what do those organs do? They eliminate? So you're trying to eliminate but you can't, so it manifests as an illness. So I talked to the doctors, and they say, you know, we have to do this, chemo, radiation tests. Even want to take my kidneys. I told this that I kind of like my kidney in all three cases. I refuse to believe in the reality of these illnesses. I refuse to give power over me. As Christ said to Pontius Pilate, you have no power except that what I give you and because you're not of God. God did not create the cancer, the stress of working in the ER created the cancer. And so then knew I had this feeling that the doctors I would say, I hear you, but I'm not listening to you. And I told very few people about what was going on, because I did not want their negative energy dumped on me. In all three cases, the tumors were completely scarred off. These were completely scarred off, and the surgeon just did a quick cure, cut, cut the cancer out, 100% cure that was in 2014 100% cure, no chemo, no radiation, because I was guided not to do that, and so have the power to heal yourself. I don't have 100% conviction, but I've got pretty good conviction. I still did the surgery. I'll still do what's common sense, but I can change by thinking that this has no power over me, and I can bring in divine light and let that heal me. That's what I do. So when people want to talk to me, I don't heal you of disease. I can't do that, but I can help facilitate and help you understand, okay, you have this issue. Here's how we can take this apart. Change your belief about it, that you're not a victim. Learn to pick up the energy that's in your heart where the divine touches you, and let that energy flow into your problems. And it doesn't matter if it's financial or relationship or health, it does not. Matter of it's it's just a concept, and we can change that to me, living a good life is being of service and helping people. It always brought me such joy as a physician, to take care of little scratches all the way to I saved your life. And I like helping my friends. I like helping strangers, because I get to feel this divine love flow through me first, and then I can give, and there's a blessing coming back. It's a circle of love. I love, and then gratitude. It fills you up. It's, it's just fills me up. So that's a good life. And in the spiritual is the same, is that I have released divine love into this life, and I've touched one person that now they've gone from a 50 watt bulb to a 75 watt they go I can see farther. Thank you. That's it. I am oneness. To wake up this human life, to wake up, because once you've had that experience, you will never be the same. You will say, this is so profoundly beautiful. All I want to do is give it to everybody. I want to give you the intense love that I'm feeling right now, to you and to everybody around me, because when you have that love, you won't want anything else except to give that and keep giving.
Guests Links
- Dr. Rod Chelberg – Official Site
- Read the book – When God Calls, Say “Yes!”: A Physician’s Experience of Mystical Guidance
- Full NDE Story: Man Dies; Jesus Shows Him Truth about the Mysteries of Human Body (NDE) with Dr. Rod Chelberg
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