Alex Ferrari 0:00
Tell me what your life was like before you died.

Anton Grosz 0:08
I'm 37 years old. Hadn't thought about God at all, but I got into this meditation. Hey, let me try it. Let me see what it then I read it, and it always creates peace inside. It would be very, very peaceful. And I kind of was a natural I felt really, really good at it. And so I would meditate. And one night, I was meditating just before going to bed, because it calmed me down. I had a big day at work tomorrow, the next day, and I'm meditating. And for some reason, when I was sitting on the camp looking at a candle flame. But I had let all the air out of my body, and I don't know why I had done that. I just did and suddenly I was below the ceiling looking down at my head, and I thought myself, oh my god, if this is me up here, who's that down there? Or if that's me down there, who is this up here? And I took in a breath, and I went back in my body, and I thought, wow, that's cool. Yeah, I wasn't afraid at all. And I being a scientist, right? You know, having to prove everything, I realized, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if I left my body because I didn't have any air inside. I wonder if that bus, the meditation, is what made me, you know, go, you know, a top of my head. I gotta do this again, and I have to do it, and I'll keep my breath out longer, because I'll bet if I'd stayed out longer, I could have looked around more and seen more from outside, so there was no fear at all. The next weekend, I decided to try it again. My wife is downtown shopping with our daughter. My nine year old son is playing in in his room. I decide, hey, it's a good day to do it to leave my body. So I breathe out, and I lie on my bed with my hand folded like this. I'm on my stomach, leaning on my elbows, breathe in and out three times, let the all the air out, and I say I'm not going to breathe again until I'm unconscious, because I knew that the body will normally bring things in. Now, I didn't do anything stupid. I put tape on my nose or mouth. I mean, you know, I'm not bad off the wall, but I said I'm not going to breathe in until I leave my body again, like I did, you know, last week, and the clock goes around once, and the second hand goes around again, and I'm beginning to get, whoa, some pain in the body. I begin shaking like I'm in an earthquake, and then I feel like I'm drowning, like in a flood, and then I feel like I'm burning up in a fire. And I later learned that, according to the Tibetans in the writing The Tibetan Book of the Dead. But these are the first three steps in leaving your body and dying. You lose the earth element, the water element, and then the fire element. The next thing is the air element, which I'd already left and didn't have inside my lungs. The only thing holding me to my body was something called the ether element, which sounds pretty nebulous to me anyway, there I am, and I'm asking myself, am I conscious? Am I if I were unconscious, I'd be breathing, and I'm not breathing now, so I won't and I held it out, and I held it out, and the pain got worse, and I thought to myself, suddenly realized I was dying, and I said to myself, No, God won't let me die while I'm looking for him. And I what, what did I just say? And then I saw a little light on the top of my head, and it got bigger and bigger, and I thought, oh my gosh, that must be the tunnel of going through into the light that Raymond mood would, he wrote about in his book, life after life. And there was another sad thing, my wife's sister's husband, a young man, died from childhood diabetes at the young at a young age. And so she had read life after life, and gave that to me, and I had compared it was, gee, what if body and mind really are separate. That was the only step I could in any event. There I am, this tunnel, this light, you know, gets bigger and bigger bigger, and I suddenly went through I have not breathed, of course, it's been over three minutes and no air in the lungs, and I was in a space of brightness, unbelievable, greater, brighter, more incredible than anything I could have ever believed existed. And further, there were a feeling of greater number of dimensions. How do you describe but three dimensions that was nothing. There are so many more, and it was the. Know, incredible. At this point, my body is in such pain. I took a breath in. I fall off the bed. I start moving my body going around like it's in an epileptic fit. But inside, I was at such peace, Alex, I can't tell you, the peace, the comfort, the joy, the wonders, the feel inside. Well, my body is going crazy on the floor at this point, my wife comes in the room. She is driven home from shopping. Our son, who had looked in the room, has gone out to meet her at the driveway and to put her mind at ease, he says, Daddy's not dead. Daddy's not dead. Then I'm rolling around while I'm rolling on the floor, you know, in this peaceful thing, I can't move. I feel wires pulled out of my head like the old telephone switchboard. And then at some point, they get put back in. But I feel them being put back in in a different place. I can't understand any of it at the time, and then when I can finally control my body, the first thing that happens is, I am on my knees on the ground. My hands are folded like this in front of my face, and my first words are, I am reborn. I am reborn in God. And I was so embarrassed to hear me say that, but my life made a complete right turn at that point, and I knew that everything that people have said about God it was true, there is a greater reality. It may not be out there where we can physically prove it by Newton's laws, but it does exist, and that's how it happened. That's where my life changed, and from that point on, everything is different, and I know what I experienced, and that's true. And all of this makes me feel that I'm on this path that has led to the writing of this book. How did I get here? The idea that when I was in when I was in college, I had an experience, which seemed like it was meaningless, except now looking back and maybe the most important thing that happened there was a I was walking across campus, and there's sign psychological testing going on $5 and in early 1960s $5 was a lot of money, man. So I had nothing else to do. I went in, signed up. I went into all the tests. And the very last room I went into, these were, you know, grad students who had a thesis and needed, you know, some documentation, some, you know, for their for their pieces. And the very last room I went into, there were five desks, panels with lights on them and buttons, red light and green light, and a buttons underneath. And there were four other students who were in there, and they said, oh, here comes another one. We can do it now. We can we do the test? And the professor said, Okay. He said, Professor, standing in the corner of the room, he said, I'm going to push a button. This is a test how fast you can go, you know, and your reactions I'm going to push on. It's going to be the same for every panel, and each of you push the button. If you see green, push the button under green. You see red, push the button under red, and we're going to keep going faster and faster until somebody misses, and that'll be the end of the test. So we start doing it. Push red, I push green. I push red, green. And then suddenly, beep. The professor says, oh, somebody made a mistake. And the guy at the end, he says, Who pushed red? I said, I did. He says, It was green, you missed? I said, No, it wasn't. It was red. He said, No, mine was green, and the professor said they'd both be the same. I did, but mine was red. And the woman over on the next side said, Well, mine was green, and I don't care what yours was, mine was red. And he said, Well, you're you're wrong. All of us had green, you had red. You calling me a liar. I know what I experienced. And we started, you know, raised this and went at each other, and I suddenly felt my hand, my arms held back behind me. It was the professor. He said, easy, son, it was red. You were correct. This is not a test for how fast you can react. It's a test to how you handle peer pressure. You did very well. You stood up for what you experienced. Now here, take this shit, go get your $5 and you know, that's it. Boy, I was so, so upset, and I pushed that out of my memory until I had this experience, and I even remember sitting, you know, on on the couch, crying, why? Why, Lord, did I have to wait so long to learn that you existed? And I heard this little voice in my head which said, if you knew this from the beginning, how could you have shared it with people? Who, who didn't know it you've stood on both sides of the river now you can share that experience, feeling of being, of a living, of existing is the same when you get rid of all the adjectives that make you and me different, when anyone says I am and then they said adjective, rich, poor, black, white, old, young, you know, blah, blah, blah, whatever it is, male, female, they're just adjectives. Get rid of them all in meditation, we do this. We get down to the feeling of the pure existence. It's the same for us all. Why would I hurt you if I knew that you were me? And that's the decision humanity has to make right now. Now, are we going to survive? Who knows? Does the Creator care? We're here so that we are, you know, can, you know, survive? But I'm sure there are other planets somewhere in the galaxies where other living beings. So if this one doesn't make it check that one off. Okay, that one didn't work, but another one will as each level of consciousness has grown. You know, rocks to plants, to animals to humans. What if one of the reasons humans were here was so that we could build a housing for consciousness that could survive longer than humans can. Who says that consciousness, the feeling of I Am, has to exist in a piece of meat, in flesh and blood, maybe it could exist in metal and silicon and other things. Imagine when the sun gets hotter, right? We know that it's going to turn into a red giant at some point, creations that we are putting together now, I am, you are, and we are one. That's the way it should be and we should know.