Hellenistic Astrologer Reveals Humanity’s Future 2026 – 2032 with Jorge Roque

Alex Ferrari 0:00
With all of these changes that are coming, and obviously we're kind of going through a dark night of the soul as a species, as a consciousness.

Jorge Roque 0:08
The reason why I think that way, because the new society that is coming after these dark times that is approaching is going to be more focused on the value of humanity to a point is going to bring the world to a point of it can take it anymore, and then we're going to become free of that. We're going to be inclined more into respecting our fellow human, looking for something more transcendental in our life, not necessarily just this life, unfortunately, history has proven them. We men do not change until something drastic really happened.

Alex Ferrari 1:07
Now, before we jump into this episode, if this conversation resonates with you, please like subscribe and share this with whoever you feel that needs to hear it. Your support helps us keep bringing this information out into the world and helps us awaken this planet. Thank you. I like to welcome to the show Jorge Roque, how you doing Jorge?

Jorge Roque 1:32
Doing well Alex, thank you very much for inviting me.

Alex Ferrari 1:35
Yes. Thank you so much for coming on the show, sir. You are the first Cuban I've had on the show, you are the very first Cuban. After 600 and something episodes, you're the first Cuban other than me, of course, being on the show, on every episode.

Jorge Roque 1:50
Yeah, I think I'm the second one. You're the first one.

Alex Ferrari 1:52
I'm the first Cuban.

Jorge Roque 1:54
You are second generation. I'm actually a fresh Cuban, made and assembling in Cuba itself,

Alex Ferrari 2:02
But I am purebred. So I have both my parents. You're pure bred. Yes, you I am a purebred. I'm not a mix, so, but I am. Yes, I'm first. I'm first generation here, born here, but, but raised in Miami. So it's kind of close, right?

Jorge Roque 2:18
Miami is like Havana. North Havana, you know, is like the second most popular or most Cuban city in the world. Besides, yes, is definitely important for us.

Alex Ferrari 2:33
But my friend, I'm so glad you're here. You're here. I wanted to, I wanted to have you on, because I've had other astrologers on, but I have not had an astrologer from your perspective, from the Latin American kind of angle of it. What kind of astrology do you actually practice or study?

Jorge Roque 2:54
Okay, so within the astrology, we have different schools, and within that school, there are specializations like, for example, my school is called Hellenistic, or traditional astrology. So it's basically, it's more rooted into second century till the seventh century. Type of astrology, the traditional, very conservative astrology. And within that school I have, my specialty is actually elective astrology. You know, I'm a little bit nervous right now. Okay, so

Alex Ferrari 3:33
Don't be nervous.

Jorge Roque 3:34
A big deal to be in your show. So I'm kind of struggling because, because I'm excited to

Alex Ferrari 3:43
Relax. It's all good, brother. Don't worry about it. We're here. You're with family, my friend.

Jorge Roque 3:51
Thank you very much. Elective astrology is basically a branch. It's not a branch, it's actually a practice or a technique where we find auspicious time to schedule things, to do things, to close a business, to open a business. Also, I specialize in Astro cartography, which is relocation on astrology, finding the best places in the world where you can actually take advantage of the energy depending on the area of your life that you want to improve, that's actually more like falls more into the modern type of astrology and modern technique, more than anything, and Electional Astrology, which is finding auspicious time for anything you know, from from the very beginning of the astrology, one of the main purpose of astrology is actually forecasting, you know, kings and the powerful, the powerful in the world, they wanted to know if they were going to be able to win a war or make an important decision or avoid certain things. So the astrology job at that time. Is actually forecasting, finding the right time and also the right the right people to fit in for whatever project the powerful, the novel, The King, whatever was was about to start. So Electional Astrology is basically preparing for for the best time to start or to stop doing something that is also the exit is also very important. Now Hellenistic astrology, the difference between the Hellenistic astrology and the modern school is basically that we we give to the aspects of the planet. We give in certain occasions, we give a very narrow or orb, which is a distance of one planet to another to form an angle at the same time, we also have another. You know, we have an ample option, because the degrees was that was actually something implemented later on. But we are more conservative in the way that we treat the angles and we consider with certain skepticism the modern planets like Pluto Jupiter, Pluto Neptune and Uranus. So those are planets that we do pay attention to, but we don't give them the importance, the weight of the traditional planets. Or, for example, we don't provide, we don't give them a rulership to a specific sign. Like, I give you an example, a Neptune work the modern astronomy call it the ruler of Pisces. For example, we do consider Neptune, but we don't give them rulership. Or, Uranus is the ruler of Aquarius. But we respect that, we observe that. But there is not enough time to give the enough weight that we assign to Saturn as the traditional ruler of Aquarius, like for example, or another example will be brutal. Is a new planet is recently discovered. We're talking about 300 years astrology is a millionaire, millinery, science and and that's another thing that we we pay more attention to Mars as the ruler of Scorpio instead of Pluto. Now we do keep him in check. We do pay attention to those planets. But again, as a psychic, to provide context, not necessarily to give the full weight regarding also, for example, one of the things that we differentiate, maybe from the traditional or the modern astrologers, is that although other practices like tarot and other divine or occultist practices, we see more astrology as a scientific or as a science. If you if you Google it, or you check in Chat GPT, whatever you want to use, what will be the definition of a science is basically the study through time, through our senses of an object, those findings must be documented and they have to be reproducible. And I always explain that that astrology fit that criteria perfectly well, because history is actually like a blockchain for us. You can quote, any war, any any any any problems in the world, or any great event. And we always going to find a similar pattern with planets and and the different type of relationship within between these planets, malefica benefits that that confirm that astrology is actually reproducible, that is actually real. As a matter of fact, that's another thing that I always explain. We are not psychics. We are actually like a musician reading a chart, like, like a like a partition of musical notes, and that those notes, or that bulletin board is actually published by the Creator on the on the heavens and on the sky, and we read that chart. And the reason why we can predict what is going to happen is because we have seen the same part in repeating in the past, producing those results over and over and over. And because of that, we can actually say, hey, coming this year or this month or whatever time period, something similar is going to happen. Now. Yes, there are, you know, I think that astrology also brings a perspective that there is a Creator, and probably that's why other practices, spiritual practices, or occult practices, include astrology. Because one of the key things that astrology has is that it proves, by amazement, that there is a Creator. And one of the wonderful things about that is that you can see. That there is a synchronicity, a relationship between charts, like, for example, events are happening for the life of a child is reflected on the parents chart, and vice versa, and with your spouse. So how, how come we can see that connectivity, or that Synchro, synchronicity between the charts of the relatives, if there is no Supreme Intelligence coordinating everything. I think that that's the reason why the late 18, 1700s Australia was put aside. You know this in Europe, the rationalism and giving more importance to the to free will and the under reason, put aside astrology, because one of the things that that science does is actually that confirms that there has to be a creator. There is no random thing. Our life is actually very well coordinated and arranged in a way that has a purpose. That's another point of Hellenistic astrologer. Astrology, we did, we do a lot of emphasis in the eternal argument of free will or fate. What is, what is the real thing? You know, a Hellenistic astrology will be more fatalistic in the sense that we don't believe in random or that you have the option to overcome or take that as a challenge and that you can turn it into a complete turnaround. We're more fatalistic in the sense that what we see in a chart basically describe your potentiality and also your capacities and your free will is limited by your ability, the one that is reflected on the chart, so there is no deviation that you can actually become yourself. Let's say Spore, start a sports star when you actually are not built for that. One of the things that I actually, I actually explained in my in my YouTube channel, is that when you are born, that NATO chart that is reflected on the sky, that that moment that is reflected on the sky is like a software configuration or a software that is download or a firmware that is injected into you and that gives you all the potentiality or capacity that you have to become whatever you are, the more you become acquainted, comfortable, accept your true nature, the one that you were designed for, the happier you become, and the more successful you become. Instead of fighting what you don't like about your life, you just use what works and then try to understand the reason why you were conditioned, maybe not to perform as well. In another areas, it's sometimes I even use movies. I like to use a lot of metaphors to explain how that works. Like, for example, I don't know if you remember, have you watched the matrix the first part?

Alex Ferrari 13:05
Stop insulting me, sir. Por favor. Please stop insulting me. I talk about the matrix on this show constantly. Of course, I've seen that. It's my favorite movie.

Jorge Roque 13:14
Well, I watch it over and over, because the more I watch it, the more I discover things. But there is a these are important thing that I connect with astrology, and I'll tell you what it is. The moment that Neo goes and talks to the Oracle, and she takes out of the out of her purse, a candy and tells him, do you want candy?

Alex Ferrari 13:33
That would be part two, by the way, just so you always part two. Okay, that's part two on the bench right before they start fighting with Mr. Smith, sorry, you're walking into, you're walking into my world. Now, my friend movies, so yes, that's part two. It's very clear in a very important scene in his

Jorge Roque 13:49
Right and said, Neo, tell her, Listen, if you really, you, if you're an Oracle, you know why? I mean, you know if I, if I will take the candy or not? And she tells of course, I know otherwise, I wouldn't be a good Oracle. But you didn't come here to know whether you will make a decision to take it or not. You came here to understand why you made that decision. The same thing happens with a story, and that's the perspective of Hellenistic astrology. We don't come over here to try to be different, but to understand why we are designed the way we were designed, and any connection with

Alex Ferrari 14:28
Let me stop you. Let me stop you there for a second, because when you're saying you're designed the way you're designed is an idea that I talk about on the show a lot, which is, like you and I are not going to play in the NFL or in the NBA, we weren't designed to do that. That's that physically. We don't have the attributes to do that. I'm not going to be an astronaut because I can't do math. Basically, you know, it's not something I was done, but what I am designed to do is what I'm doing, whether it be this show or movies or content. Or, you know, creating media, or things like that. That is what I was designed to communication, exactly, mass communication. That's kind of what I was designed to do. And I was given skill sets to do that. Could I try to do those other things? Sure, but I'm not going to get far, because I'm just not built that way. I'm never going to be Arnold Schwarzenegger, you know, I'm never going to be a bodybuilder, because my genetics doesn't carry that. I could probably do as far as I can, but there is a limit. So when you're saying fatalistic in regards to your chart, what I find fascinating about that is that we all have this blueprint that we're laid out with, and they're things that will and this kind of goes into the near death experience, Soul blueprint, idea where on the other side you choose, I'm going to be this person, I'm going to be that person. I'm going to have this parent. I'm going to be born in this culture at this specific time in history, because I'm getting ready for whatever I want to experience that. And I kind of understand that idea, because just looking back at history, I'm like, Well, I wonder what it would have been like to be in Rome. I wonder what it would have been like to be growing up in the 50s. You know, these kind of, these kind of ideas. So I kind of understand that. But the idea is that you're thrown into these in this environment, and certain things, you have no choice over there's because we all have free will, but there's certain things. So I didn't have, quote, unquote, a choice once I got here, where I lived, who my parents were, in this world on the other side, I had the choice of what I wanted. But once I got here, it's exactly what you're just saying with Neo and the Oracle. You now have to understand why you chose this path and why these things are happening to you. So a lot of things that happen to you, whether they be relationships, whether they be accidents, whether they be trauma, whether they be super you're super wealthy, you're born into a super billionaire family, or you're born dirt poor. You have to understand why you were put in those scenarios, and then kind of just we, the only thing we have control of is what, how we react to the situations and circumstances that life gives us. And I do believe that we can overcome certain things, but I can't overcome my parents. Are my parents. I can't overcome that. I was born in, you know, in South Florida. That's just what I was. There's nothing I can overcome. Can Overcome there. Those are just facts. But could I change things there is, there's in my opinion, and please correct me. There is kind of a little bit of guardrails up, but there is space for you to bump around within that scenario. Does that make sense to you?

Jorge Roque 17:41
It makes sense, and later on, we connected also with past life experiences and hypnosis and but yes, the reason Yes, there are things that you cannot and there are all the things that become actually a superpower after you become stronger, like I give you an example, Chiron in your chart. It might, it might reflect the deep wound that you might be fighting your whole life to 50. But then when you become 50, you have your first uh, under your last, unless you become a vampire or something like that. But once you become 50, that actually, that return of Cairo becomes your superpower is like before. It was something what is hurting you very much, and then it becomes the greatest gift that you that God assigned to your life. Yes, you have to work it out and become a master in that area. That's one example. I like to explain that the point is that in this life astrology, astrology cannot describe what is happening before your life, this present life and in the future in another plane, another life after this one. Astrology is about this world right now, and I totally agree with you that before we are incarnated, we have absolute free will. Well, not absolute, but more like absolute free will. And I will explain why I say, I don't think that it's absolute, but once you come down here, you have to work your contract. So that's, that's another thing that I always this. Like, for example, I use names or metaphors to describe what is a NATO chart like, I call it the script that you're about to perform your your contract for this life, the software that was installed, a letter that is up in opening up little by little the older you become. I want to connect that to past life like, for example, one of the things that I always explain is that astrology cannot describe anything else from another world, because there is no confirmation that is actually reality. You know, it's black and white. There is no connection, a real connection, between astrology and another. Philosophy of life or religion. That's something that we add on later on, because it's black and white, but there are answers that are not in a chart, and then we need to justify. You're trying to find out why, for example, a person is not born with a lot more luck. Why? So his life or her life is so challenging? Well, that might be coming from another life, but astrology itself cannot tell you that. Now, there is another school of astrology called evolutionary astrology, that actually tries to find those missing links with other lives, but we don't have a real scientific confirmation when I say scientific is that it has to be really documented and reproduced through time. So evolutionary astronomy, we have to assume that what they're saying is true, but nobody had come from another life to confirm you're right. You are having these aspects in your chart because you are carry on some duties from the previous life now regarding the other lives experiences. One of the things that happened to me, before I actually became came public as an astrologer, is that I passed past a year long I know therapy course or on my last class, my last three months, was actually transpersonal hypnosis, and it took me completely by surprise, because, by nature, I am very skeptical. You know, I have Mercury in Aquarius. I need to find out everything before I actually accept it as a fact. So I'm like St Thomas. I need to test in order to believe. And one of the things that happened in one of those experiences is that I actually had the opportunity, and that's the most beautiful memory that I have from my past life regression, to plan my life in the in the in that time of between lives, right? I had the experience of planning, and I remember that I actually was selecting or trying to argue with that light being that was actually instructing me. I call that light being my master. I was actually to select some experiences that I didn't want to leave, and some of them were allowed me to skip, but some of them basically this being told me, No, you had to go through it. So in a previous life, or in between lives you have, I can say that, based on my personal experience, you have the freedom to choose some of the things that are the themes that you're going to experience in this in this time. But once you get in, once you come back here, the condition is already set up. And I believe that the chart is actually the software that is installed, or the contract that you signed before you were born. Then to perform here, to develop it over here makes sense. Yeah, it makes I see like, like over here, we are limited by the abilities and the contract that we signed before we came here, before we came astrology itself doesn't tell you that. I'm assuming that that's the way, because I also had another experience where I can actually saw that we have some some level of choosing, some some capacity of choosing,

Alex Ferrari 23:21
Yeah, let me ask you, how old is this version of astrology? Because this is a, this is a, an arm of it that I have not, I've not heard of,

Jorge Roque 23:31
Is actually the oldest version of astrology. Hellenistic astrology is, is the blend of Babylonian, Egyptian and Greek traditions, and it developed between the second century before Christ till seven centuries after Christ. You know our era, but it's actually the most documented, well known and the oldest form of astrology from there, from those roots, at least in the Western world, because there is another type of astrology which is obviously connected to us, but they branch out with their own flavor, which is a Vedic astrology

Alex Ferrari 24:12
Chinese astrology, Chinese astrology,

Jorge Roque 24:14
Yeah, but Chinese astrology is not connected to ours like Vedic Astrology is very similar. It's the same route, but they have different, different perspectives. Like, for example, they will give more importance to the ascendant. They give more importance to the to the moon, to the moon sign, they have all the things that probably we lost because of the Christian impositions through the culture, like, for example, we have a technique that was recently, very recently discovered or translated into the modern world, which is actually very antique. It's called zodiacal releasing, which is a technique of timing, where, basically, they. We we can actually see important events that are happening in your life, like on a schedule, day by day, week by week, month by month, or year by year. They've very astrology because they did not have this problem with Christianity. They flourish, and they have something similar to what we call zodiacal releasing, but it's a lot more developed and more accurate, if you want. I don't, I don't recall right now the name of that technique, I know the name is just right now, doesn't come to my mind, but it's similar to that. So like a releasing end, and I think that does, it was lost or degradated a lot because of the burning of libraries and persecutions of anyone that thought differently through throughout the 2000 years of Christianity. But astrology itself, that the Hellenistic astrology, is actually the most, the oldest version of astrology that we have, and from there we have new branches, like psychological astrology. We have evolutionary astrology, Astro cartography. All those are techniques or a school of astronomy that are actually more recent. You know, is more is more in tune to the New Age type of world, and it's also mixed up sometimes, a lot of times, with more spiritual disciplines. Hellenistic tends to be, although it does not reject the spiritual world and other disciplines. Hellenistic has already tried to be more into the more pure, if you want. It's not a we are best. That doesn't mean that. It means that we are more like restrictive in what we include, more conservative. Put it away for a planet or anything surely to be considered or respected, we have to have a lot of centuries evidence, a lot of study and observation throughout many century. Hellenistic astrology is a millinery discipline. The modern astronomy and the modern disciplines are more like maybe 200-300 years, maybe less.

Alex Ferrari 27:12
I asked this to other astrologers. I wanted to ask you, have you ever gone back to a master and followed their chart. So obviously, we don't know exactly when Jesus was born. Okay, I use him as or Buddha was born. We don't have those names, but we have someone like Yogananda, or many of these other yogic, you know, being that were masters while they were here, but they were in recent times, within the last 100 years they were alive. So there is actual records of when they were born. Have you ever just done the exercise to go back to a master and kind of got see what, what the, what the stars were saying, and if it line up.

Jorge Roque 27:50
Yes, specifically Jesus, Christ, or Jesus because

Alex Ferrari 27:53
So how about what's the date? Yeah, what's the date that he was born?

Jorge Roque 27:57
The exact day we don't have, but for example, we have an important date, which is the day of the crucifixion. And that's the reason why we can actually go back to that date, is because the Gospels has actually described what happened. You know, there was an eclipse. It was before Passover. There are clues. And since Israel, they use a moon calendar, we can see which one was the date or the time that this was happening. I don't recall exactly the time because that study actually, I did it a couple of years ago and haven't touched it again. But I remember when I actually was reading the chart of the time of the moment of the crucifixion, I had a mixed reaction of excitement, euphoria. Laughed, laughter. I was laughing like crazy and crying at the same time of excitement, because my background is actually Christian dogmatic. I started to be a Catholic priest. That's another thing which is connected from astrology, as a matter of fact, one of the modern system, house system that we use, placidus. He was actually popularized by Catholic priest and in Italy, Placido, he carries his name. But I remembered because I could understand the theological and biblical part of it when I was actually seeing the chart of the moment of the crucifixion and the eclipse that was happening at the time and all and everything that was going on, and all the positions, I remember the key points that was telling me the combination of you know that the sun, the aspects that the sun was doing to Jupiter, the opposition to Saturn, the I remember all the details, but the position with with Virgo, what was happening in the sign of virgo, reflecting the sorrow of Mary the mother, at the moment, at the foot of the cross. I mean, it was. Combination of things that was telling me definitely, definitely, there was something divine going on with this guy. I wish I can recall more details of that chart. Is a is a very clear but I don't recall right now all the details, if you want. We can actually do a second part just for that chart itself. But I remember that it was an explosion of joy and amazement. And I laughed because God had a sense of humor. That's one of the things that I actually learned. The sense of humor of the Creator, and my mind exploded at the moment in many emotions like, wow, I couldn't hold it. It was very strong. But yes, it is an impactful, an impactful thing. And if you actually go back to 33 years before, and that's another thing that we had to fight with the calendar, when actually Jesus was born, it seems that he was born actually in the second century before Christ. So when we look at the chart of Christ itself, although we don't have a complete defined date of his birth, the slow planet's positions at the time that, possibly the time that he was born, was well describing an important person. One key point that we do have about his birth is actually the conjunction of Saturn and and Jupiter, the Saturn the wise by experience that represents also the evil side of divine forces and Jupiter the wise by divine inspiration, the magnificent Jupiter. And that's one of the things that actually was followed by by the three kings, the famous three Magi magis. There were no kings. There were no magis, where there were actually three astrologers. Matthew two actually reflects that as well. There is actually literally in Matthew two, chapter two, there is actually a description of what will be a transit a transit consultation. When Herod the king asked the three Magi tell, you know, check really well stands when you're seeing you're watching the start, and we know that Jupiter takes about a year to move from one side to another. Saturn takes about two years and a half. And notice that few verses down the king order to kill anyone under two years old, you know, born within a period of two years, because that's the timeframe of the conjunction of Saturn and Jupiter. So that was, that is, you know, I don't have all the details in my head now, yeah, that's fascinating. That definitely seen that chart, that proximity, the proximity of the his birth chart, and specifically, that's the one that I studied. The chart of the date of the crucifixion is mind blowing, and definitely confirms that there was something divine about that person, something very special,

Alex Ferrari 33:07
That's very that's actually fascinating. It would be an interesting exam exercise to kind of go back to different masters that walked around at certain times in history just to see what their charts are like. But I'm assuming you've also gone back to the just recent history and see if the charts lined up. So like, when World War One starts, where World War Two starts, when, right? You know this happened or that happened the Civil War. These kind of, I'm just using American wars or as references, because those are very large things that happen to humanity, especially the world wars. Did you have you done that exercise, and have you gone back and do things lined up?

Jorge Roque 33:49
Yes, and that's one of the reason why I moved out of the United States into to Spain. Are now planning to move to Argentina. So let me explain that. So we are right now in a cycle that is repeating science, different French Revolution. So we have, for example, a planet like Pluto, a modern planet that moves or does a revolution every 248 years, and now has returned to Aquarius, which is this, the sign that inspires freedom and rebellion from the people, from the chains, from the oppression on of of the powerful. There is also another aspect of that planet, Pluto is out of bounds. I mean, is there is a row like, like expressway or a road that the planet should go right in order to be considered in a normal position. Let's put it that way, in aspect to the sun. But when that planet goes above or beyond those boundaries, we call that, they are out of bounds. And in this case, for example, the one that we are right now, the. In the times of the French Revolution, Pluto is out of bounds to the south, which means that the these long, slow moving planet, the energy that this planet is actually bringing to the world, is actually a time of freedom from oppression, freedom from control. And you see what is happening right now. You say, How can that be happening when we see a lot more control building up? Yes, there is another planet, a slow planet. It's a modern planet as well that was discovered recently, Uranus, that was actually lined up or returning into Gemini, right? So let's go back to the to the french french revolution. At that time, we had a Pluto in Aquarius, and we also had Uranus in Gemini, and that's what gave birth, not only to the French Revolution, but also to the American Revolution, Independence War. Right now, after 248 years. Now we are 250 Pluto is back in Aquarius, bringing the same theme of liberation from oppression. But there is a cycle that is repeating it for specifically for the United States, that happens every 84 year, which is the return of Uranus into Gemini. The first time that it happened was the Independence War. 84 years later we have in 1861 we have the Civil War. 84 years later, we have World War Two. And guess what? 2026 we're going to have again, the return without going back of Uranus into Gemini, and that's going to be a long period, like eight years, that is going to be working, but it's going to be coinciding, or touching, or doing conjunction with the native position of Uranus in the in the NATO chart to the United States, and later on, by 28 is 2028. Is going to be touching the native Mars of the United States. So yes, the parting that we had during the Civil War, during the independence and French Revolution, Civil War, World War Two, we have it right now, and you can see it reflected in the environment that we have within the United States, not all, not only because United States kind of like approaching or playing with the possibilities with the international war, but there is also domestic like, for example, another, another similarity is that in during the Civil War, we had a Neptune transiting In areas, right? And that Neptune was actually doing an aspect of opposition with Saturn right now what we have is actually, in my opinion, worse than that opposition that we had during the Civil War. We actually had the union, the conjunction of Saturn and Neptune inside of the of areas, which is similar to what happened during the Civil War. So I expect that because of that, the tensions within the United States are going to grow even stronger and stronger, but it's going to be even more expanded beyond the the borders of the United States actually is going to be, I think, is going to be becoming a global conflict worse than than what we have ever seen before. And that's the reason why we're pointing down or looking considering moving down to Argentina, because you've seen the modern war, and this is not astrology, remember, I don't have a psychic powers. But if you see the modern war, the modern wars like, for example, in Ukraine, you can see that today's war are not based on tanks and a lot of soldiers. You know, we see more like the buzzing of the, what is it called, The helicopters, the drones, the bossing of the drops, dropping bombs and finding artificial intelligence being used to detect and find the enemy and execute an attack. And it could be even worse. Remember, Pluto is a planet that we also associated with atomic energy. And it was actually discovered when men actually started playing with that energy for that purpose, for military use. And we have it also in a sign that is actually doing that has a relationship with motor. Motor energies is also forming a trine with Uranus, another planet that has to do with that this type of energies in Gemini. So we're going to see an explosion of energies that are more focused or connected to military, military use, just because we have the same repetitions of parents that we have. In previous war, I can say that the North hemisphere, which has been basically the scenario of all the major wars in in our history now, basically the last 2000 3000 years, I can foresee that something big is coming, where United States going to be a May, a major pleasure, and that's the reason why we move out of the United States a year before even we had the present administration, because I saw I told my family, listen, things are going to get worse and worse in the United States. It's time to move out. I always say that I'd like to be early a year before than a day late, because I knew what is coming now from Spain, we actually watching what is going on in the United States. And we I'm not amazed. I'm just confirming that things are just warming up for a lot more tensions that will start specifically next year after, you know, 2026 after April, 2026 when that Uranus finally move into areas, and we have the conjunction of Saturn and and Neptune getting a strong within areas, and Uranus in Gemini, we're going to see that the tensions, the social tensions, and the problem that we're going to we're going to have within the United States are going To be increasing and getting more difficult to tolerate, in my opinion, it's going to be a lot chaotic than we really want or expect

Alex Ferrari 41:30
Now with all of this, you know, again, I talked to so many different people for so many different walks of life, right? That psychics, channelers, mediums, astrologers, nothing that you're saying is surprising. It's all kind of like 2026 2027 it kind of it starts to cool off around 2032 is what I'm hearing. Is that what you see as well?

Jorge Roque 41:59
Yes, 2033 will be the day or the year that you might hope to return back to the United States, which is not going to be the same after that, because that's another thing that I've been analyzing for the next 10 years, we're going to see a complete decline of the United States as a world superpower. And I see another, another empire of power rising up, which is China. I was actually analyzing China's chart, and I see that all the events that are actually creating the decline the United States are becoming an opportunity to rise up, even more powerful for China. You know, I give you an example, the return of Pluto. Pluto, when a United States was created, created, or born in 1776 was in Aquarius. And usually the empires fall when we have a return of Pluto, or we have at least the second return or the third return, the most right. Same happened with the British Empire, with the Roman Empire. Well, guess what United States already had, because the retrogation Retrogrades, we had actually two returns of Pluto. We have Pluto coming to the exact point of birth, which is 27 degrees of aquarium of Capricorn. And then later on, we had another retrograde Pluto into that degree, which is signals to me that the times for America to be great again is long time past. And this is not a political statement. Is an astrological observation period. So we're going to see the decline of United States, like any other empire with their print and power in the world.

Alex Ferrari 43:47
So with that said, so something like the British Empire, obviously. And for people listening that might be freaking out a little bit in regards to you saying that. And again, nothing of this is surprising. This is other astrologers have said the exact same thing, that in the way the the cycle is running, that the US Empire will weaken, while the Chinese Empire will strengthen. But that, but the British Empire, which was a world power at a time, they're still fairly powerful as a country in this on this planet, you and so is France, and so is many of the older empires that were world empires have have weakened, but they're still, you know, something to be reckoned with. So it's not like tomorrow that the United States is going to turn into a third world country by any stretch. That's not happened to maintain a certain amount of strength and power, but it seems like they're eating we're eating ourselves from the inside.

Jorge Roque 44:45
Essentially, I see it this way. No, United States is not going it's not going to become a third world country. That's not what I meant. You know, the empires, once they lose their power to submit. It and control others. They become legacy type of empires like every I give you an example right now. For example, United States, because of the might of their of the Army, or the of the of the military, military weapons, they can support a baseless currency called dollar, which is a Fiat dollar, which has no whatsoever backup of any kind but the full credit and goodwill by fear, by force of the of the military of the United States. I think that is going to change big time, like the dollar will have to find a backup with a real money, like gold or something else in order to survive the New World, or we can actually become use another type of currency, but definitely something, the capacity of the United States to impose sanctions financially on other countries is going to completely disappear. The power the military power, probably also will be not as determinant than as dominant in the world like it is today that you can actually impose a lot of fears or control or have basis all over the world that is going to diminish like for example. Give an example, the British Empire. The British Empire is not anymore what it used to be, but it's a legacy empire that has a commonwealth, a Commonwealth that a lot of people share, culture, share, share self interest or history with that empire, or I give you the example of the Spanish empire that has no meaning whatsoever, military or economically to any part of the world, but there is a strong connection with the any country that speaks Spanish and anything that was actually produced by the Spanish Empire during those centuries. You can see, for example, when any of us Hispanic, return to Spain, our Motherland, our mother country, land. We call it a way, you know, we can see the similar, similarity of the culture, the foods, the religion, is just there that connects. So we have that empire like type of connection. They have a strong voice, because it's our mother, but it's not anymore what it used to be. I see United States transitioning to something like that, maybe another power of second degree or third degree. Let's say second degree at first. But China is becoming what United States is today, dominant in technology, dominant in the financial world, even dominant militarily. So they will be the ones imposing sanctions on other when things don't go their way.

Alex Ferrari 47:50
So the other thing I wanted to ask you is the the cyclical aspect of what you were talking about, like empires falling and, you know, every 300 years, or something like that, you can kind of see what was going on. But there was an empire that ran. And there's many empires that ran for longer, but the one that's in the most recent history is Rome. So the Roman Empire, to my understanding, was in power for over almost 1000 years, if my history serves me correct, so sickly, so cyclically, a lot of the things that you're talking about would have happened during the run of the Roman Empire. But yet, the Roman Empire didn't fall. It might have faltered in, you know, year 300 a year 600 if it's a cycle that goes in. So what happened there was it just lack of other powers, and that's why I just stay, stayed there. There wasn't a China, or there wasn't a Britain, or there wasn't a France that could jump in and take over the the world power, because Rome was a world power in the most recent years of of the last 2000 years, there were obviously longer with the Byzantine and right and the

Jorge Roque 48:59
Eastern part of empire. Well, don't expect that it will fall overnight. It's not going to be that way. It's going to be a transition into another level or another degree, and then the other one takes over. But I'm talking about a range of 15 years. For the next 15 years, it's going to be a lot more. It's going to be sooner or faster than what we actually want, but it's going to happen gradually. Roman Empire, yes, disappear as as an empire. But actually, whatever they left, it didn't actually blend completely. Was erased from history or from from, you know, all the cultures, the barbarians and the different cultures that invaded the destroyed that unity that we call Roman Empire. They actually accepted and adopted and actually, in a way, they tried to rescue it later on, by calling, you know, the new Holy Roman Empire and creating new ways of revival. Been that that new empire that old fire

Alex Ferrari 50:05
Isn't it? Isn't it true, though, that the Roman Empire never actually fell. It just turned into the Vatican. It turned into the well, all that wealth, all all that wealth went somewhere, all that gold went somewhere. So the Roman that, and I don't want to get into the go down the rabbit hole of the Vatican and the Roman, the Roman, Roman Catholic Church and all that. But a lot of it went into Rome, and because I was standing at when I was standing in the Vatican. And I've said this before, and I'll say it again, it was the stupidest thing I've ever thought of I've been a Roman. I was a Roman, raised Roman Catholic all my life. Went to Catholic school the whole ball away. I still feel guilty about it.

Jorge Roque 50:46
So you're a recovering Catholic.

Alex Ferrari 50:47
I am a recovering Catholic. But the thing is that when I was in Rome standing at the Vatican at St Peter's, St Peter's Basilica, I'm sitting there and I'm looking at it, and I go, Oh my god, Rome, Roman Catholic Church. I never connected the Roman Empire with the Catholic Church, but that's what it was. It was the Rome of exactly. Of course, I was a little slow on the uptake for me, but it was, it was like, oh my god, Rome turned into the Catholic Church, and then all of this stuff, and then, then you start going into the council, and you obviously studied or were going to become a priest, so, but how the Bible was written, the Council of Nicaea, Constantine, and all of that, they're just like, Oh, my God, this is, this is, so that's where Rome went. The British Empire has turned into what it is today, very powerful, very powerful country, but it's not a world power. It is a very, I mean, you don't want to mess with with Britain, you know. But if China wanted with Britain, Britain really couldn't.

Jorge Roque 51:53
They couldn't do nothing by themselves.

Alex Ferrari 51:55
They couldn't, no they would need the help of the United States and pretty much the rest of Europe. And even then, I'm not quite sure what would happen. We might blow ourselves up at that point,

Jorge Roque 52:05
Right, right! Yeah, well, the Catholic Church Basically, yes, it's a continuation of the Roman Empire, but more as a political, cultural part of empire, right? Still has the persuasion from a political perspective and historical perspective and psychological perspective that the Roman Empire has, and as a matter of fact, it has that, that Power of unity that the Roman Empire had around all the cultures that were within the Roman Empire, the same thing happened with the Catholic Church. You can go anywhere, whether it's a Catholic church or Catholic community, you're going to see a very common theme, pointing to Rome, right, with their own distinctive but very, very much Roman, very much like the Italian church. I mean, it's not far, but yes, in that sense, yes, but I don't think the United States has the reach and the power that the Catholic or the Roman Empire has, for example, Spain. Spain was actually a country that was actually conquered by Roma, right? But today, the Spaniards, they feel proud to be descendant or or share the Latin culture, the culture of the Roman Empire. You know, the conquerors suddenly became not the enemy, but they became actually something to be proud of. Again, didn't happen overnight, because I'm pretty sure that when a romance came into into the peninsula, into into Spain, the native were not that happy. But the transition progressively was turning that culture into a new era. The same thing probably will happen with the world in general, United States will will lose up a little bit there, if you want their pride of being the greatest and the best country in the world, which is not,

Alex Ferrari 54:02
Listen, we're number where, listen, we're 30 seconds in math. You know, 27th in science, but number one in confidence.

Jorge Roque 54:12
That's right, that's right. So,

Alex Ferrari 54:13
But that's, but that's the, that's the propaganda. I mean, when I was, I was raised here 100 so you got here at 17. I was, Yes, right? Yeah. So I was pretty insulated for most of my life, until I started to travel the world. And when I started to travel the world, I started seeing other cultures, started seeing other countries, and then looking back at the United States and the propaganda, not the propaganda, but the media, the Hollywood I come from, from that world. That's what we we exported our culture, and it for a long time, the US culture, American culture. Everybody wanted KFC, everybody wanted blue jeans. Everybody wanted everything that was America. Where now other countries. I mean, look at Korea for God's sake. South Korea, the K Pop revolution. And, you know, it's insane. And Spain, sending out, sending over, you know, amazing content, and on Netflix and things. So all these kind of now other cultures are starting to take over popular culture. When the Americans had it locked down for, I'd argue, probably from the 50s on, yeah, yeah, I'd say from the 50s on, they had a run about 50-60, years that everybody was all about American culture. But now, now there's this mixture of so many other different, different countries that are starting to put their culture out in the world place as well.

Jorge Roque 55:35
And I see that happening in the United States after year 2033, where America is gonna is going to open up to older cultures, languages and be more tolerant and actually celebrate like Spain now celebrates the conquerors Rome, eventually Spain, I mean, United States will be also like for example, when you see, Even though the America has a lot of influence too, with Hollywood and music and all that in the world, when you see, for example, from the perspective of Europe, that America is only is so focused on English, only when the beauty of speaking more than one language is such an amazing improvement for your mind and your soul. I mean, it's laughable when you see that America or English only like for example, that's another thing. I think that America is also going to evolve into being more like Europe, more tolerant and open. The reason why I think that way because the new society that is coming after these dark times that is approaching is going to be more focused on the value of humanity, not on the value of might or power. Things like that. Pluto in Aquarius going to bring like in the French Revolution, going back to astrology, is going to bring a sense of freedom from whatever is oppressing the world. You know, I say, you know people, they see a lot of control, digital ID, CBD, you know, the digital currency to control how you spend your money, social credit, that kind of stuff. Yes, that is going to to a point is going to bring the world to a point of it can take it anymore, and then we're going to become free of that. Why? Because Pluto out of bound to the south in Aquarius is going to turn all the technical oppression and the oppression from the world, from the from the superpowers or the governments, into a revolution where we're going to be inclined more into respecting our fellow human, looking for something more transcendental in our life, not necessarily just this life or or being only very individualistic. That's another thing that I actually experienced when I moved to Spain, walking away from 35 years of mindset in the United States, that you had to be successful only for you and by your own effort. And then you you understand the world from a different perspective, not necessarily communist, no, no, but having compassion and having consideration for all, all everyone around you. I think the word is moving into that direction, but before we have to go through this process of transformation, not necessarily through good means, remember that. Unfortunately, history have proven them. We men do not change until something drastic really happened, like a war, like, like a major pun, something major has to trigger that we become more sensitive. I give you an example that 2001 when 911 people went to the churches, and everyone became more American, and more more civilized with everyone and more connected with the Divine. Something like that is going to happen in the world. There is a transition. We're going to be more tolerant. United States not going to disappear. It's just going to transform into something less, less Ultra nationalist and close minded, to one language, one form of way of being, to consider everything else that is out there. That's That's how I see it coming.

Alex Ferrari 59:39
And the funny thing is that this country was built. It's an experiment the United States. It's an experiment of every culture around the world that built this country. All the cultures built this country, as opposed to Spain or France or England, which were a very native, you know, specific kind of language and country and. People we have. We're a melting pot. That's what we were built on. That's how that's why we became as powerful as we are, because we opened the doors to everybody, and we worked with everybody, and that's how we were able to this scrappy little country built up into a world power. And after World War Two, when Europe was just devastated. We were fine, and we were able to build an economic engine that my parents generation took advantage of, you know, and then I, my generation has taken advantage of it to a certain extent and then, but it's gotten weaker and weaker to the kids who are coming up today. I feel have it a little bit tougher in many ways than we did growing up, and have stresses that we couldn't even comprehend. Thank God social media wasn't around when I was growing up, I can't even imagine, you know, just for the evidence alone of the things I did in high school. So make sure that there's none of those videos out there. But it's, it's, I think we all, we all can agree that we would not want to see shown that we were like, in what we were wearing.

Jorge Roque 1:01:14
A lot of things wouldn't be tolerated today's date, for sure.

Alex Ferrari 1:01:17
Oh no. And you can kind of go back and look at I was talking to someone today, this morning, of like, I was like, I saw a clip from all in the family, from the 70s Show All in the Family, which was the number one show in America for years.

Jorge Roque 1:01:30
Very political incorrect.

Alex Ferrari 1:01:32
Oh my god, the stuff that was coming out of his mouth. I was like, oh my and I remember watching that show growing up, and I it was just like, oh my god, things have changed so radically. Jorge, I want to ask you, with all of these changes that are coming, and obviously, we're kind of going through a dark night of the soul as a species, as a consciousness, that's what these next seven, eight years are going to be. I've been talking about it for a few years now, kind of not scaring people, but trying to let people know, look, this is coming, and it's it's not that it's good or bad. It's just going to be what it is, kind of like when you know you go through a heartbreak, when you lose your job, when you you know, when you get divorced, when you have a breakup, those are very painful things that happen to you, but those are the things that you grow from. Those are the things that elevate you and push you forward. Without those extremes, you might just keep coasting through life. So that's what we all kind of need, that wake up call as a society. But with all of the all of the kind of negative stuff that we've been talking about, I also want to put a spotlight on the positive, there are large amounts of people awakening around the world. This show is a perfect example of it. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. 10 years ago, this show doesn't get these numbers. You know, 15 years ago, I would have, I would have been laughed out. You know, I couldn't have a conversation with an astrologer, a Cuban astrologer who's in Spain talking about craziness, you know, or a psychic medium or a channeler channeling higher beings like those conversations would not be allowed. But now, for whatever reason it is, it is something that people are looking for. They're leaving the traditional paths that are not serving them. The same way, the more dogmatic religion, the more fear based religions, and now they're starting to look for more spiritual looking for answers within themselves, looking for paths to go on. You yourself. We were talking a little bit about that. Can you tell a little bit? Can you just tell people what the show did for you? As an example of to illustrate what we're talking about.

Jorge Roque 1:03:39
Right! I had to go a little bit back like, Okay. I when I was a teenager back in Cuba, I actually enter a seminary to start to be a Catholic priest, right? And I thought that I was going to be a Catholic priest even when I moved to United States. I migrated with my parents. My father was a political prisoner, so we flew from Havana to Miami, and I thought that I was going to continue. No problems, no big deal. It didn't happen. Somehow. I got involved into working, making money. Things start doing well for me, and life in United States took over, and I was able to excel financially. I started to be an IT guy, and I, you know, I was very happy with everything new that I was discovering. But I also was moving away from my original vocation. I remember that the reason why I wanted to be a priest is because I wanted to be like an embassy of freedom, an escape of freedom and a powerful weapon to help my people that were dying in dry and dryness, you know, so when I came over here, I dried up, becoming successful by myself, but I got, like, a big stop in. 2020 that was something that really, like completely shook me to the point that when I'm going Why do I keep doing things just to make money, when I know that I'm not happy, my life has no meaning whatsoever. My original vocation is not in use at all, and I feel horrible because of them. And I started to to read, take more time. And one of the things that I did is, actually, I got involved into hypnosis, you know, learning more about my mind and the superpower of our mind, which is, I call it hypnosis superpower. So I got enrolled into a school in Tampa that they were doing a program for a whole year. We have, you know, different courses, and I specialized in clinical and then later on transpersonal. But at the same time, during during that time, I was actually dealing with my father, he had a very strong health condition, you know, heart condition, heart failure, condition congestion, heart failure. He was going through dialysis, and at the same time, I was having a tough relationship with Him. Hypnosis was actually helped me to to finish brush up all the bad aspects of that relationship to the point that I took over and created, for the last few months of his life, a wonderful relationship with my father. I was so grateful about that. Then I got into transpersonal and my father, my father already died, and I got into this transpersonal I was like, always a very skeptical person. That doesn't going to happen to me. Nothing is going to happen to me. I'm not Napoleon, Napoleon or Cleopatra. I'm not on a special guy. I'm not going to be see so the Roman, Roman emperor, that's BS. But let's take the class. Let's see what happens. So I remember doing my first regression, you know, be me being the subject in class. And it took me by surprise. I only visit one time, one life, one past life, several times. But there is one particular regression, which is the most treasure, delightful memory that I have, which is the time between life and life, between one life and the other life in between. A lot in between, in between. A lot of things happened in that regression. And I remember the one of the things that happened to me there is actually that I I was able to telepathically talk to a light being that was right in front of me. I couldn't define whether it was male or female or their name. When I was asked, I knew that that being was my master or the master. I didn't see Jesus or angels. I just saw this bright light that it was so, so bright that in this world, we could never resist. But in that experience, I could see through the line without being affected in a negative way. And I was able to actually see plan together with a person my present life. I remember discussing some of the things that I wanted to do or not, but at the same time, I was shown the last few moments or years, perhaps, of this current life that I'm living. And I noticed that what I was doing was great, was actually impacting many people. I remember seeing, like, for example, I was on a stage, and I have a lot of people around, and they had like a light on, like when you turn on the flashlight of your cell phone, and they were waving from the stage. I was actually able to feel it, the collective gratitude and joy because of whatever I was done, I was doing in that future life that was going to incarnate. And I felt a rush of euphoria, and I started screaming, I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready because I wanted to be that moment. And then I was late. I fell back and I was late into my mother's womb. There is a lot of things that happened in that, a lot more details. I remember that, like a month after I had that experience, I found your channel specifically a video about one of your guests that he was for 45 minutes, he had a near death experience, and he recounts what happened in in in the afterlife. A lot of the things that he was describing, I actually experienced it, and I never read about her or actually checked into it at the same time that I was watching that video and that I was battling with the big question, so we reincarnate, there are other lives. So there is no heaven and hell. So we have a continuous progression of our life. Remember, I'm coming from a dogmatic background, very strong dogmatic background. So I have so much pain in my mind and fear, because at the same time that I wanted to believe that experience my dogmatic background, that was so rooted into my mind, was fighting strong. What if the devil was actually taking over your mind and making you feel or imagine those things? Why this is all crap and you just being full into something new that you know? You can't believe that. But then, when I watch that video in particular, and then some others in your channel, I start losing up. How can that person have the same experience that I have? How can I know what he lived when I never read or watch a video like this before, but we have common details about the experience, and mine was only, was only a regression. His was actually a real thing, you know, like a near death experience. And also the other, the other videos that I, that I watch, they start softening up my or down my soul, the the rebellious part of my soul. And then I start realizing our lives has. My life has a bigger meaning than just these 80-60, whatever years we're going to live in this plane. There is more than that. Our life is actually eternal. I start realizing that our life is actually eternal, but we just in a continual learning process to understand why we are, who we are, why we do the things that we do, what is our real, true vocation? And that's what actually happened. And that completely started changing, not only my my theology, which was completely wiped out, most of it was actually wiped out, but also turned or change the way that I also relate to people around me. For example, I became more tolerant. I was very obsessive or vehement with whatever I believed, you know, like a like a holy Inquisitor. But my truth was the truth. But now, because of this transition and these videos and the testimony that you are reflecting in your channel, my my soul was actually softening up with the sweetness, or actually, I stopped and listen and consider others, and instead of seeing seeing them opposing parts that I had to rebuttal. Now I can actually see that there was a compliment, that something was fitting in, that we were actually pieces of a puzzle, that it was no you or me, black and white is actually we together a lot of things. It changed, all combined with astrology, of course, astrology also is very revealing, but your channel was instrumental to make me be more tolerant and understanding with my wife, my children, their transitions in life, their their moods, or whatever, all the people in general, like for example, one of the things that that that happened to me because of the things that I saw my experiences, and also the complement of the videos that I saw in your channel, is stopping battling or fighting with other people about my truth, or what is a defined truth, suddenly I became more like, observe and respect. Respectful of together, combined with the sweetness. Another thing is guilt, the guilt and fear. I have a lot of gear because fear and guilt combined, because I had to be certain ways. I don't behave a certain way, then I am evil and yeah, and I go to hell. Then I realized that actually even my because of your shows and some books that I also read, even the bad things that I can describe as evil or uncomfortable or not good at all in my personality, was actually mechanism or defense or simple tools, that was actually used for good, to form me, to bring me to awareness. A lot of things change, the respect to myself, the consideration to myself, like, for example, I became a lot more emboldened and and and fearless, one of the byproducts of your show and the hypnosis. The hypnosis was the confrontation with reality, which brought me to a crisis your show. Easy down, easy easy up. My my tension. My fear and made me relax. Because of that, I actually was able to open, or dare to start my astrology channel astrogia, which I started in June 2023 June 23rd 2023 before that, I wouldn't dare to do it. Why? Because, you know, the high school friendships are like forever friendships, right? Well, my friendships are friars, priests, deacons, nuns and one bishop. On top of that, I actually taught leaders, Catholic leaders, about Old Testament evangelization in my in for the actual Diocese of Miami. So going public as an astrologer was a social was a social cost that I was not willing to pay. I couldn't I couldn't dare to go above that because of your show, because of all these experiences that happened in 2023 specifically that that video of your guest, that was that had an experience of 45 minutes, near death experience for 45 minutes. I was actually I found the boldness and the valor to say I'm gonna talk what I know is true. I'm gonna start coming out instead of conforming. I'm gonna start doing my thing at the beginning was rough and difficult, and I have to learn how to talk to a camera and how to do anything in YouTube, because I never done that before, but, but it was a challenge that I couldn't do before this experience that happened, especially when I was able to lose up from the guilt and the fear from from religion coming from, you know, dogmatic, yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:03:40
The Catholic, dogmatic background. Thank you so much for that. That's so beautiful to hear. I mean, I do the show, and, you know, I put it out in the world, and I have no idea sometimes what it does to people watching, but it is service that I like to do. But the reason I wanted to bring that up is because it's an example of you awakening. It's an example of millions around the world who are starting to awaken. And that is the hope for all of this, because what you're seeing in 2032 of an America that's a little bit more open and a little bit more kind and a little bit this or that, it needs people who are awakened to start doing it. Very similar to you so with and this is something that, and I'd love to hear your thoughts on this, but there's something I've always found when there is a great negative, one of the laws of the universe is a great positive will go up to balance it. So World War Two, a great negative came up, but then the allied forces came up to meet it. It's never, it's never Darth Vader, completely knocking you out. There's always a Luke There is always a Yoda. There's always another force to balance that out. And this is another example of it. Yeah, it's going to look dark. Yeah, there's going to be some some rough patches over the next seven or eight years, but there is a very positive force coming up at the same time. We might not see it all the time, but it's there underneath it all, kind of like the negative is over the last 20 say, 2012 from 2012 on, which is a very significant year from 2012 on, all the things that were underneath, all The anger and the resentment and the racism and all that stuff started to bubble up and started to come up. So it's always this balance. It's always these cycles that keep going around and around. That's the universe. I mean, the solar system itself. Our solar system is an example of of reincarnation. Every so many years, the planets come back around every you know Haley's comet. I was alive. You were alive when Haley's comet came out. Most people here don't. I got to see Haley's cometwas in sixth grade. My teacher told me to go outside and look, and I saw Haley's comet. So I actually saw Haley's comet but Haley comet comes around every 75 years, right? And though I might see it, who knows, I might see it in my lifetime again. But it's cyclical. And there's so many things in our universe that are cyclical. This is one of those cycles, is that all coincide with what you're what you're seeing?

Jorge Roque 1:03:40
And not only that, I agree with you, but in addition to that, it is necessary, because coming out actually makes people later on realize what I have done. If you look at your past past years, when I look at mine, I can see that everything that we're now seeing, the collective right now, the rage and the hatred or the intolerance that we see right. Now very much reflected in American society and around the world too, by the way around the world as well. But we're talking about United States specifically now, yeah. I mean, I can see that in a bigger or smaller degree. I also have done it in my own personal experience. So because I had done those horrible things, or say so those horrible things that I said in the past, or I hurt someone, the memory of that, or becoming aware of what I did and said was actually made me realize, oh, and then a change in my soul was produced to more to be able to become a more sensible, more tolerant, more respectful, and also more forgiving with myself and others, just because I remember I also was there, I also did similar things in the bigger or smaller degree. So the thing things the same happens with this society, you know, whatever is happening right now in the world, America, or any part of the world that is negative. It is necessary for the collective to wake up to see their darkness and say, there has to be a better way. Yep, how can I be like this? Like World War Two was actually a big wake up for the whole world, but we have enjoyed. We are the generation that actually enjoy a lot of years of peace and more society, more focusing education and multiculturalism, understanding other other nations, uniting, also becoming a more global world, just because of that ultra nationalism that was an in tournaments that was it as a theme of the World War Two. Well, same thing will happen over again. We will be better, because whatever is going on right now, same in the personal life,

Alex Ferrari 1:21:54
Where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing in the world my friend?

Jorge Roque 1:21:59
My website is astroguia or astroguia. Sometimes people pronounce it like that is astroguia.net and the YouTube channel I have the same name, astroguia in YouTube, astroguia in Instagram. I'm also opening now the English Channel, which will be astrogia en and that's another thing that was a challenge for me, you know, let's, let's take over now, let's start to bring this to the English world as well. I know there are many out there that do Australia in English, but I kind of felt that I had the confidence now to say, You know what, I also have a lot of a lot to give in this language, even when I have my Antonio's banderas accent, that's a that's a defense that I use against my fear of my own accent.

Alex Ferrari 1:22:50
But it's very nice, very nice.

Jorge Roque 1:22:54
I laugh about it. Okay, fine. Yes, astrogia.net that will be the website.

Alex Ferrari 1:23:00
It has been a pleasure speaking to you, my friend. I love your energy. I love the work that you're doing and what you're trying to do to help awaken this planet. So I appreciate you, brother and mucho mucho bendiciones, and you may you continue to do the world the work that you're doing, my friend. So thank you again for being on the show.

Jorge Roque 1:24:29
You're welcome.