Angels Save Me & Took Me to God with Donna Rebadow

Donna Rebadow 0:00
Nowhere in our Catholic teachings, did someone say God is going to present to you as the Aurora Borealis. That's the closest thing I can say. It was this big electric field that was alive and vibrant and electric. I was okay with that. I was like, Oh, my God, you're the creator of the universe, and I knew the love of God. It was like love bombs being shot through my body. Every cell in my body was full of love. That's incomprehensible.

Alex Ferrari 0:24
Why do you think that you were experiencing those life reviews?

Donna Rebadow 0:28
This planet is you can call it a teaching planet, or a hospital, or whatever metaphor you want. We're here to evolve our souls and to become love. So all these things are evolving me, making me aware of every moment of my life, every choice that you make has a ramification, even if you say it or don't say it.

Alex Ferrari 0:59
Now before we jump into this episode. If this conversation resonates with you, please, like subscribe and share this with whoever you feel that needs to hear it. Your support helps us keep bringing this information out into the world and helps us awaken this planet. Thank you. I'd like to welcome to the show Donna Rebadow, how you doing Donna?

Donna Rebadow 1:23
Hi, Alex, thank you for having me. I appreciate it. I love your show.

Alex Ferrari 1:26
Oh, thank you so much for coming on the show, and I appreciate the kind words I'm I'm looking forward to our conversation about your experience on the other side and what happened when you died, and who you spoke to on the other side, and is it always Jesus? We want to know hardest working man in show business is Jesus, I'm telling you, he's at everybody's nde, apparently Buddha. Buddha shows up every once in a while. Muhammad shows up every once in a while. But Jesus, boy, I'm telling you, he's hardest working man to show business. So So before, before we get into your nd, what was your life like before you died? Like what was that whole process before you actually had your nde?

Donna Rebadow 2:12
Oh, great question. I grew up in Western New York. I drowned. So my voice, I swallowed a lot of water. So please pardon my voice, it's not been the same since. So I grew up in Western New York, and like a lot of your guests, I grew up Catholic,

Alex Ferrari 2:27
Recovering Catholic. Got it!

Donna Rebadow 2:29
So you know, so I had, I had some psychic ability. It runs in my family, but it wasn't like some of the people that you have on your show. It was just like, you know, just a little bit here and there some precognition and angels and things like that. So I would say I was normal. I was leading a normal life. I was a professor at a community college in Maricopa Community College for 30 years. I taught, I was a scientist, so I taught psychology, the soft science, physical education, alternative medicine. And I'm a working acupuncturist. I'm a do sports medicine, acupuncture right now. So my life was more on the left side of the brain, although I had a glimpse of the right side of the brain, some, some things of that nature. So that's kind of what I was doing.

Alex Ferrari 3:27
So you had a, so you had a spiritual foundation, a Catholic Foundation, essentially, were you very religious, or were you kind of, like a, like a, what do we call it? A, an Easter, Christmas, kind of Catholic, like we were. You just show up to church on Eastern Christmas and you're solid.

Donna Rebadow 3:44
No, no. My dad was an everyday Catholic. So here's my example. You know, growing up, but I left the church like many people didn't, and so I was like, not happy. I went on a spiritual path, looking at what all the different religions were teaching. And so I would call my I would say my base is Catholic, but I'm eclectic. I'm like a Zen Buddhist, Catholic, Hindu. I don't know what I am,

Alex Ferrari 4:16
So it looks, it sounds like you and I were both cut from a similar clause, because it's exactly what I take a little bit of everything, and what makes sense to me for my own personal journey, and that I think, as long as you're not hurting anybody, I think that's beautiful. Whatever gets you closer to source, whatever gets you closer to God without hurting anyone. That could be religion, that could be your spiritual path, whatever you like. So So you had a spiritual so it sounds like you had a spiritual foundation before your near death experience. You also had some brushes with psychic, psychic abilities that run in your family. So this wasn't, it wasn't something that was very foreign to you. In that sense, you said Angel. You said it so nonchalantly. And in this show, it is very nonchalant, like. Yeah, I spoke to angels and some, you know, I kind of saw a little bit of the future. Yeah, as one does, as one does. So it sounds like you you had a really pretty decent foundation about about all of this stuff before you died. So tell me what happened on the day that you died, my dear.

Donna Rebadow 5:19
I was vacationing with my family in the Adirondacks of Northern New York, Bear Lake. And we were, we were on a lake toy, not skiing, but there was a ski rope involved, a tow rope. It towed the little bullet around it, you know, little lake toy. And a series of possible things happened. Water was being taken on by the boat. We were out in the middle, and my brother in law yelled, get off the bullet. The boat's sinking. So my sister had the tow rope in her hand, and I watched where she was behind me, the two of us were on the bullet. She threw the rope to the left, and we went into the water on the right, and the bullet got it moved in between my brother in law, sight line and myself, so he didn't, he didn't know what was happening. And the Toro, that's nylon that shouldn't sink, was wrapped around my left leg, and I looked down. I go, What the heck. And then I heard the boat start, and I went, Oh, my God, this is gonna hurt. So I did get took a big gulp of air, and then, boom, the tow rope strangled my leg to the bone above the knee, and I was being dragged underwater. And I thought, well, now I know how I'm going to die. So if you talk to near death experiencers, they might say that a lot, I now know how I'm going to die. And so I was drowning. In fact, I drowned. And what happened next? Alex, you know, people say, well, it's just a product of your brain. It was just, you know, you saw what you wanted to see. There was nothing that happened next that was in my brain, that was in my my cosmology. So I popped out of my body and I went, Oh, okay. I knew the difference between time and eternity. Immediately. I was like, oh, there's, there's no time here. And it's like, you have a body, but you don't. So what I'm about to explain people can't really, I don't know how I can explain it to make people understand, but I all my cells in my body, which I didn't have, but it's like I did. We're all laughing like happy faces, like, Oh, here he comes. Here he comes down. I go, who's coming? And I realized there was something moving. And as I looked up on the edge of the I call it the edge, but you know how the the rotation of the Earth, the Earth is round. So something was coming up, and I went, oh my god, I'm about to meet the creator of the universe. And then all kinds of things started happening. Um, knowledge over there, it's telepathic. It's telepathy, but not like telepathy here. It's like they, whoever's talking to you, puts this concept in your brain, and you automatically, without words, you know everything that they were talking about. So language doesn't matter. Over there, people say, Well, you speak English. How did you hear something in French or whatever? It's like, no, it's, it's this instant knowledge. So I knew all these things were happening as I was flying up toward the creator of the universe, and when I got there, nowhere in our Catholic teaching, Alex, did someone say God is going to present to you as the Aurora Borealis. You know, it's not a human. It was. But actually, that's the closest thing I can say it was this big electric field that was alive and and vibrant and electric. And I and I, I was okay with that. I was like, Oh my God, you're the creator of the universe. And then we started having conversations at the same time. Time is there's no time. And so whenever, whatever you think is going to happen, wherever you want to be is immediate. It's just the other side was not anything I thought of, and I knew the love of God. It was like love bombs being shot through my body. Every cell in my body was full of, I mean, a love that's incomprehensible, that's not you can't know this kind of love while you're on Earth. And so I was getting closer, said, you're the creator of the universe, as he's saying. I say he wasn't, you know, the Aurora doesn't have a gender. You don't need a gender over there. It's just this big, you know, all encompassing. I knew that this was the creator of everything. And I kind of leaned into him, and I felt like it's a big hug. And I just, I wanted to be there forever the love that was it was just amazing. And so I felt like I was the only person in the universe. You know, I felt like the love that God had for me was so. Individual. That's why I think there's a designer death. He's gonna he did why he talked to all ndS in the ears, and they all have different experiences. It was like he you say, Where's my Donna? There she is. I made her this is what we're gonna do. And I kind of leaned in and got a big hug. And when I got this hug, I then heard, well, what do you want to do here? And I kind of backed up, and I knew there was a line to my right, that there was the demarcation line, that if I passed that line, I'd be dead, dead. So it's kind of dead, you know, I'm dead. I'm drunk. I knew if I went over there, I wasn't going back. So he goes, Well, Donna, what do you want to do here? So in my psychology degree, we learned active listening. So I start active listening with God. Who does that? I go. So, God, what I hear you saying? You want to know if I live or die?

Donna Rebadow 5:19
Well, to be fair, Donna, not many people die and come back. So let's start with that. Then we could talk about, you know, having a conversation with God. So yeah, and that's really interesting, because you this, this line that you talk about, I've heard this many, many times. It's a point, it's a point of no return. Sometimes it's a line, sometimes it's a window, sometimes it's a door. Sometimes it's a river in a creek, and your families on the other side. But you second you pass it, it kind of like cuts, it kind of cuts the silver cord that is connecting you back down to earth as as I've as I've heard. So that makes a lot of sense. What is the environment? Are you like in space at this point, talking to the Creator.

Donna Rebadow 9:38
There's concepts over the it's a concept that you can't believe here. So the closest thing I could say is, remember, it's the Aurora Borealis. So I'm kind of in this space of multiverses, like eternity. It was, it was just like 360 everything and all this knowledge. So this environment, when it started off, it was light, but I didn't go through a tunnel. I didn't see Jesus.

Alex Ferrari 12:08
He's busy. He was busy that day. He was somewhere else. I got you right?

Donna Rebadow 12:12
So I was like, you know, okay, so I, I'll just get God, the Creator. Okay. So it was like it was, it was like some things that you would see on the James Webb telescope. It was, it was so but it was like three dimensional, five dimensional. It was like everything. It was the most incredible thing. But for for people that want to know about dying, so when I when the rope strangled my leg to the bone, that was a pain I never had felt in my life. So I felt that pain, but when I died, I did. There was no pain, there was no pain, and it only took me a few there was no time. So I say in seconds, you know, I crossed through this veil and I knew I was dead. I brought my consciousness with me that surprised me. I don't know why, but it was like my whole personality and consciousness went there, but the love so people it the dying didn't hurt. There was, there was nothing hurtful about drowning. It was like, you know, I was being dragged underwater saying, I wonder where they're going to have the funeral. You know, how's this going to work? And then, boom, you're in this space of pure love and knowledge. And so people that are worried about their loved ones or themselves, you hear a lot of nd years say, I'm not afraid to die, I'm just afraid of the pain before. It's just when you take me fast,

Alex Ferrari 13:41
It's not dying, it's how you die. Is the

Donna Rebadow 13:44
Exactly, but the dying in my my private well, my brother in law, this past April, this year, we didn't talk about this for for 26 years, because he felt responsible for killing me, but he was dying of pancreatic cancer, and I got to go back home and talk to him. We hadn't talked about this. I said, Wes I have to talk to you about what happened. And he was ready to hear because he was afraid, he was afraid of dying. And I said, Okay, well, you have homework. He died within a month. So I said, you have homework, I want you to prepare yourself a big banquet when you pass, so that as soon as you cross, you have, you have, I want you to have. What are you going to eat? What's, what are your guest list? What are you know, just get your mind off of this. Whatever you think of heaven, Howard purgatory. It's alive. It's loving. So I we actually got to share some moments there. So if I can help people know that dying is wonderful, it's glorious, it's loving, it's there's nothing but love over there. I know other people have had, like, hellish experiences, but that's all I had. It's not it's not what I was expecting. It wasn't. Anything that was it came back changed in my cosmology. He had asked me, What do you want to do here? So I said, Well, if you're asking me if I want to live or die, then I give the choice to you. And I learned a very valuable lesson about choice, because that as soon as I did that, I went, oh my god, what have I done? I now don't know what's going to happen, what is going to happen. And so that's the unknown that people are afraid of. But I was like, you know, am I going to go what's going to happen? So as that was happening, all this knowledge about choices and free will were being fed into my brain, and I heard, well, when you go back, you're going to talk to people about the power of choice. And it dawn me, Alex said, when you go back, because I'm still waiting for the answer. So I'm like, okay, so it's like I became unhinged and was flying back to Earth, like I was just, you know, rocketing back to Earth, and snapped into my body, and I went, what was that, and I was still drowned. I'm dead in the water, and so I didn't know how they were going to get the rope out of my leg. It was strangled to the bone, and I could feel human hands under my armpits lifting me up, and I thought it was my sister. When it got to the surface, no one was there, and just gallons of water coming out of me. The rope came undone. There's no and I talked to physicists at our college, and I said, could that have happened? They said, No, you should you should be dead.

Alex Ferrari 16:29
So hold on a second. I want to stop you. Then I'm interested. You kind of flew by something. I want to go back. All right, so you can't you came back in and you were technically still dead, which is unique for me. I've heard 100 I've done 125 of these, probably 150 of these at this point. Many times they come back and are brought back to life that have heard of some. But it's a unique thing that you were thrown back into your body that was for all intensive purposes. Drowned. It was dust, yep. So you said that you felt hands underneath your armpits lifting you out of the water. And who were? Who the hands?

Donna Rebadow 17:15
They weren't my sisters.

Alex Ferrari 17:17
So there weren't. So could you? Could you said, when you got out, there was nobody there. So, okay, that was the thing you glanced over. I want to make sure people understand that there was somewhat of a miracle that was going on here. This the mystical stuff is still going on. The Divine stuff is still happening. So you were lifted out of the water. Where did would you put? Like on a beach, on the on a boat?

Donna Rebadow 17:38
I had a life jacket on. So another miracle was the rope came undone. A nylon rope strangled my leg to the bone, to the bone. My femoral artery should have ruptured. It was just, I thought it was amputated, but the rope came undone. Like, how did that happen? So I had my life jacket. I'm in the lake. My brother in law doesn't know what's going on, so he's continuing to go to the shore because there was water coming on the boat. My sister was back where we left her. And so when I got to the surface, I was like, what, you know, and again, I'm just all this lake water in my lungs, you know, wrecked, wrecked my lungs and my throat. The rope wrecked my leg. So I looked down, and I went, Oh, my God, if I if I twitch or kick my calf, you know, the below the knee is going to fall off. And I grabbed it because I want to have it, maybe they could reattach it at the emergency room. Okay, so, yeah,

Alex Ferrari 18:36
You're conscious during all of this. So you're conscious even though you're not alive technically, right?

Donna Rebadow 18:44
Yeah, there's consciousness with you.

Alex Ferrari 18:47
So you're almost looking at this as an observer, but also as a participant, correct? So it's, it's very interesting. Okay, so you're, you're kind of floating now you got brought back up into the into the air. Water just start to come out of you.

Donna Rebadow 19:02
It's like somebody was pounding on my back. You know, I was like, I thought, how they two things, how they're going to get the water on, I mean, how they're going to get the rope on done. And those two things happened.

Alex Ferrari 19:13
So you basically had Angel CPR. Essentially you had an angel you had an angel paramedic who brought you up other thing, another angel paramedic, is untangling the the rope, and then miraculously, you've drowned. Generally, drown victims don't just start spitting up water by themselves while they're still in the lake, generally. So, so you had multiple miracles happen when you came back and you're watching all of this, experiencing it and watching it at the same time. So were you watching it from above and also from inside, or were you all inside, like inside yourself, experiencing it only?

Donna Rebadow 19:54
That's a that's a great question, all inside myself, but when remember, I snapped back into my body. I can actually feel that observer and me snap together. So this, this, that also was very strange. So I was like, oh,

Alex Ferrari 20:12
Did the pain come back right away? Did the pain back right away?

Donna Rebadow 20:16
No, the pain did not. I think I was in shock or something, you know? I mean, think about that. A toe rope strangles your leg to the bone. Oh no, the pain was there, and now it's not. I'm like, What the heck?

Alex Ferrari 20:32
Okay, so you've you're throwing up water, your water's coming out of you. I assume somebody eventually gets to you, grabs you,

Donna Rebadow 20:40
My sister, my sister,

Alex Ferrari 20:41
Were you alive? Were you alive? When your sister grabbed you?

Donna Rebadow 20:44
Yes because she was, she was she was back away. So she was swimming like Superwoman across the lake to get to me. She said she was watching her husband kill her sister. She was very

Alex Ferrari 20:56
As one would be,

Donna Rebadow 20:59
And we're both pilots. So I said, you know, we had a conversation about, well, with my new leg, will I be able to, you know, do the controls, because you need both feet when you're a pilot. And I said, I'm about to go into shock, so I'm going to grab my calf. You you just hang out in my jacket until they come out with a new boat.

Alex Ferrari 21:20
So when you when you were finally back alive, and your sister has you, is the pain? When does the pain come back? Or does it not come back for a while?

Donna Rebadow 21:27
It does. It comes back on the dock. So my brother came, my brother in law, came out with another boat, and I said, don't look at my leg. He does. We scream. I go, Oh my god. So he's trying to lift me in the bone. I go, No, if you lift me in the boat, my legs gonna fall off. Don't do this

Alex Ferrari 21:43
Jeez. How old were you, by the way, when you did this, when this happened?

Donna Rebadow 21:46
40, 40, oh, so I wasn't a kid.

Alex Ferrari 21:49
You weren't a kid, but, but, I mean, that's still gonna, oof, that's still, it's gonna, it's gonna be a minute for you to recover from that at 40.

Donna Rebadow 21:57
Yeah, yeah. I still,

Alex Ferrari 22:01
You still have a problem with it?

Donna Rebadow 22:03
Well, listen to my voice, my lungs, my leg. I still drag my leg around. It's still attached. We got to the hospital. Well, when I got to the doc, I was telling everybody what to do, because one of my one of my things, is first aid and CPR. And I said, Okay, wrap it in ice, you know, get all the things you can. I had to wait 45 minutes because we're in the Adirondacks, we're out in the middle of nowhere. And I said, I'm going to go into shock, and here's what you do. So we get in the ambulance when the ambulance is moving on those those Lake roads, every bump, that's where the pain came. I was like, I was screaming on every bump, yeah,

Alex Ferrari 22:40
Oh my God, all right, so before we continue on your return, okay, let's go back. Let's go back to when you were in the other on the other side. You didn't have any life review.

Donna Rebadow 22:52
I have a life review here. They saved the life review for me coming back.

Alex Ferrari 22:57
Okay, well, let's go into that. What was your, Donna, you have a very unique nde. That's why I'd love that's why I'm like, I gotta get her on the show, because your nde is a bit different than most before you go into your life. Review, one thing I wanted to mention is, you said many have a hellish nde, or some, yeah, it's a small, very small, from what my research and my experience is, is that everybody who has, and I might this is not for everybody, for many people who have hellish experiences, it is because they created their own hellish experience based on the programming that they were built here so they expected. I'm not a good girl. I did bad things in my life. I ate meat on Friday, I'm going to help, and they and they may, and they have this kind of hellish experience. And the ones that I've had on the show who have had hellish experience, which is very few, probably like two or three, I can't find many of them. They're hard to find. They're not very out there is that they usually go through this hellish experience, but the moment they ask for help, the moment they ask, they cry out to God, or they cry out to Jesus, or they cry out to Bucha, or somebody, a light comes and saves them, and they're brought back into into it, that's the majority of the ones that I've ever heard of. I wanted to clarify that for people who are listening to maybe this for the first time, that nd ease are majority, like 95% if not really, are all very positive, all very loving. The negative ones are usually self inflicted, and they generally still come out on the other end, they generally, I haven't heard of one, and I might be wrong. There might be one out there where you have a negative experience and then you come back, so the only experience you had on the other side was negative. Generally, that doesn't happen. And I'm sure you've studied these a little bit since this near death.

Donna Rebadow 24:51
I met PMH Atwater and Dr Scott Taylor, who you know the research. So I was at the Monroe. Institute, when we were doing near death experiences with PMH, did a whole lot of things with us about those data, about the data she's had. So about that.

Alex Ferrari 25:09
Alright, so your life review you had down here? When? When did you have your life review down here?

Donna Rebadow 25:15
Okay, Alex, it's every it's about every day since my death, and it's, yeah, it's, it's not pleasant, you know the things? Well, it is one. It's a good experience, but it's like a The only thing I can tell you what it's like is that, as I'm going through my day, feel like, oh, here comes, here comes. And it's like the corridor of bubbles, and so they pick out a bubble, and that's an event in my life, like people have in a life review. And I get to feel how what I did, what I did, to others, how they felt, and then how they how the rest of their day went. And it's every couple of days that I'll get one. So my life review has been here for 26 years.

Alex Ferrari 26:03
Good Lord. So that's why do you think? Why do you think that you were experiencing those life reviews, and for someone who doesn't understand what a life review is, can you explain it? Can you a traditional quote, unquote, a life review that you would have in a near death experience? Can you explain what that is versus the way you you see it?

Donna Rebadow 26:25
Well, when people go through a tunnel, I didn't, and some people will say, in that that moment, or when they see people on the other side you you're given like, it's like a movie or a review, and it's a situation you get to see, a situation in your life. It's just a snippet of something, and you get to feel, you know? You get to see the scenario, and you get to you're saying something, and you see how the person reacts, but all of a sudden you're, you're that other person, and you get to feel how what you did to them, and then you get to see how they went through the rest of the day. Now, my life reviews aren't all bad, you know, I've been pretty good at some good stuff. So feeding the hungry at the Andre house I got to, I got a life review where one of the guys was really standing out in my mind, and that came up, and I got to see how he felt when we he got to choose what piece of type of bread he wanted. He wanted rye or white. I mean, sometimes that's the only choice they have that day. And I just let them go on and on and, yeah, you want this one? No, okay, you want that one. And how that made him feel, and how he went through the rest of his day. And because of what my mission was, to come back and tell people about choices this this planet is, you can call it a teaching planet, or a hospital, or whatever metaphor you want. We're here to evolve our souls and to become love. So all these things are evolving me, making me aware of every, every moment of my life. So part of the choice was, every choice that you make has a ramification, even if you say it or don't say it. So as a teacher of psychology, I would teach people about the fundamental attribution error. It's fundamental we all make it you attribute someone's behavior to a personality or situation, and you usually make an error with it. For example, I had a student can come late to class all the time. And I told kids in the college, kids, you know, people pay for this, don't come late. You know, plan your schedule. Pretend like the class starts 10 minutes before it actually does. And this kid was late, late, late, and I said, You got to come see me in my office, because, you know, I attributed his behavior to his personality. He's lazy, he doesn't like authority. He's this, he's that. And he told me a story of being the oldest of a single mom in three busses he had to take to class. He had to get his younger siblings off to school. I have Bob cried with now this is before my nd about cried with how I did the fundamental attribution error. So knowing that what happens in my life review and what happens every day in my life is I just slow down and take every day, day by day, almost like situation by situation. And who, who put me? Who did God put in this path for me? And how can I, how can I love them? How can I, you know, make them feel better? I'd like that for all my life reviews since, since my drowning.

Alex Ferrari 29:32
So I think that's okay. Yeah, yeah, go ahead. You're saying.

Donna Rebadow 29:36
I was just saying it's the choices we make, people need to be be aware of and not afraid of the choices we make, because it's not a shame or guilt like we grew up with. It's more like be aware of it. You know, don't make fundamental attribution or give people the benefit of the doubt. Find out about their situation first. You know, if I had to come at them with you know what's happening with you and find out about the situation? We. Before I said, you know, you're lazy, or this or that, or, you know, so it's very much an awareness for me since then.

Alex Ferrari 30:08
Yeah, I was, I was at a stoplight, and there was a man there, you know, begging for money. And I usually try some dollars in my pocket to help them, and the light was running a little long, and I gave him, I gave him some money, and he said that he's like, man, thank you so much. You know, I've had a really tough time recently. You know, I had a home, but I lost my job, and and all this. And he just went down this story where so many people will drive by and just go look at that lazy guy, go get a job, right? He was just struggling because, you know, he lived in his car, he lost his he lost his apartment, that he had lost his home, I think, and he was living in his car, trying to get work to survive. And he was an older gentleman as well. So it was really, it was. It was a great lesson to not judge somebody by the cover, by any street, exactly what it is. So on the other side as well, you saw no relatives, right? You didn't have any relatives. No pets,

Donna Rebadow 31:07
No. I saw a pet later, but not, not during my this one, I had a hard body experience where I saw my pet.

Alex Ferrari 31:13
Okay, that was at a later time. Um, now, all right. So the love that you felt on the other side is always very important. I want people to understand how much understand how much that is, and that's common throughout. There is no judgment, there's no hate, there is no shame, nothing that we grew up with is there in that sense. And the instant knowledge, all the knowledge that you got when you were there, you couldn't really bring all of that back in. There's an understanding you have on the other side. But the way I always pointed out is that our hardware here is very minimal. Can't handle the information. It's just too vast, too too much processing power, and we just are not capable of holding on to it. So you bring back snippets of ideas. Is that a fair statement?

Donna Rebadow 32:01
Fair, truth.

Alex Ferrari 32:04
So, all right, so you're back, you're alive, you're in the hospital. They attached your leg, and you had this near death experience. So after you get yourself stable, and you start getting back, at what point do you start to share this insane story.

Donna Rebadow 32:22
Well, a couple of things. My leg wasn't amputated. It was strangled, right? So I got to the hospital, it started swelling, so they were afraid that my leg it would explode. So they were watching me for a little bit, and once it started, iced it and it started going down. Here's what they did, Alex, they gave me pain pills and sent me home because, well, you know you're not gonna die. You're, you know, it's a it's a country little er, you know it's not amputated. You know, when you get home, see your doctor, he's sitting there going, Are you hitting me? So they

Alex Ferrari 33:01
They didn't know, meet you.

Donna Rebadow 33:05
No, they wrapped my leg in ice, gave me antibiotics, biotics for the Giardia that was in the lake. They were more concerned about my my lungs, my throat, and not my leg. So I had to deal with a year of rehab, being my my nerves, and every doctor I saw was like, how did you not die? Your femoral artery and where the knot was, you know, in the rope was over my femoral artery. There's no scar there. There's nothing so they it was perfectly placed. And if, if the rope had been like, a millimeter down, it would have ripped my leg off, and I won't be having this conversation. So it took a year for, you know, for me, and I'm still dragging it around. I did fly my airplane after this, but with my with this leg, so yeah, and it took me 17 years to speak to in public,

Alex Ferrari 34:05
Really. So you kept this, you kept this in the can for 17 years. You didn't, did you speak to your family about it a little bit or no?

Donna Rebadow 34:12
I started to and, and you gotta understand, with family, they don't want to hear it, you know, you're like, okay, yeah,

Alex Ferrari 34:18
Were they Catholic? They were all obviously still Catholic and still in that, in that world. Yeah, okay, so you're the devil, obviously.

Donna Rebadow 34:26
You know, I tried, and I was like, you know, I don't, I don't need the, I don't need the grief,

Alex Ferrari 34:33
Right! So you, yeah, you were like, you were talking to a wall, basically, because you were obviously, you obviously were the devil. You've been tricked by the devil and and speaking to and speaking to demons on the other side when we died,

Donna Rebadow 34:45
We still get a lot of it. So I told my best friend who believed me, then, thank goodness. And it just was something I didn't really share until I got some to the Monroe Institute. And Scott Taylor, dr, dr, Scott Taylor said, I want you to come to the near death workshop and I go why I already died.

Alex Ferrari 35:09
I don't need to know how to do

Donna Rebadow 35:11
This known well, I want you to come. So I did. I came and says the first time that I told my story. Now I have a podcast called Exploring consciousness with Donna, and it took me to my 10th podcast to talk about, you know, I had, I had a h2 microphone, and I recorded myself in PMH, put them on my podcast, but still, it was like, Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 35:43
It took a minute for you to come out publicly, come out of the closet, the NDE closet, right?

Donna Rebadow 35:48
Because you're still assimilating. You have to understand, you know, like you've been on that side and you're like, what, you know, it took, takes a while to go. Why did, why did I come back? What did you want me to tell how am I going to do that? How am I going to tell people about this. Well, Donna, so it opens the veil. So I gotta tell you, I'm, you know, people come back with little more psychic ability. So, you know, talking to my angels all the time, and then, you know, they're like, well, we want you to do a podcast. I go, Are you kidding me? I don't know. Podcast. I'm, you know, I'm an acupuncturist, the teacher. What the heck? So I started a podcast. And yeah, so my, my new deal is on that, but also the Coming Home Network of Jesse and Elliot is strong video, did a film, you know, for all those people. And so more and more people are knowing. So I'm a little better about telling the story. I'm not as afraid to be as vulnerable, even though, you know, you catch a lot of stuff from people like you said,

Alex Ferrari 36:53
Oh, man, you have no idea. Okay, yeah, no, I know you have an idea. But like, imagine, imagine our audience and our and how many people watch our show. We get, we get, we get the we get people attacking the guests all the time and and, you know, we we help with that. And, you know, make sure you protect, to protect our guests as much as possible. But, you know, like, I always, I always find it funny. I'm like, why are you watching this? Are you just trolling? Because, yeah, I know you and I both probably disagree with a lot of things in the world, and yet watch and we don't go to those shows and go, you're going to hell. I actually died. You have no idea. Like, it's like, you don't do things like that. It's not part of No, it's pretty fascinating. But I congratulate you on your your bravery to come out publicly and talk about this. I know your story has been seen millions of times at this point so around the world. So you're out, my dear, I hate to, break it to you, you're out. You're not you know, you shouldn't feel more comfortable doing it. You're already comfortable. I hate to tell you it's happened already. Yeah, so, um, so when you came back with these, that's the other thing I want to ask you about the abilities that people come back with. And I've heard that many, many times that people do come back with more psychic abilities, mediumship abilities, channeling abilities, or just internal connection to their higher self, to their angels, to the spirit guides, or so on, what is the process for you on how you connect with your angels or your guides? Or how does that work for you?

Donna Rebadow 38:36
I said I went through a veil, so she kind of ripped it up. So it's like the veil is open. So it's, like, it's really not a process, it's, it's a, it's a knowing, it's a, it's a listening, it's a, you know, and it's a testing, you know, like, is does people, when you hear that, it almost sounds like your voice, and you go, was that me? Was I, you know, did I Right? Was that really me? And so, so now I've had, you know, 26 years of practice, so I know exactly when it's, when it's from them, it's, it's something that, you know, like I'm going through my day, I'm a musician, so I might be playing my guitar, and all sudden I go up here, incoming message. So and also have a friend that Tracy Fitzgerald, who is an amazing she has synesthesia, so she can some mixing of the senses. And so she can when you're talking, she can as you're speaking, she can see the sound, your frequency, your colors. And so I would say to Tracy, okay, how many angels do I have around me now? Oh, God, Donna, there's so many. You got 20. Let's just call it down. I just want to talk to five of them, right? You know, it's like, it's just an open channel. And. And it'd be like something like, I could be sitting here at the same time hearing my angels talking to me about you and your soul. And so it would be, what would I have to say to Alex that would be important to him? It's not like, you know, Hey, Alex, tomorrow you're going to go to Starbucks. It's nothing like that. It's, it's like the like, your your soul of you know, and I don't always, and I won't share it with a lot of people. Won't say, hey, my angels told me to tell you, blah, blah, blah, it's just not going to happen. So there's a room, clears the room, there's the room. So it's just, it's just the snowing. And so it's I what I came back with this. So now I'm a remote viewer. I work with a woman at a most she probably the most famous psychic detective, and I'm one of her students. So we find missing people. So I didn't want to what I was doing with that, as I was helping my nephew with football games, would say, Okay, here's game, here's the thing. And so he'd bet on him. I'd never bet on I said, you know, we've been doing this for a couple of weeks. I don't want to do this. And then so they told me, get a hold of this lady and become a psychic detective. And you know, I'm just on a team. I'm quietly on a team. I'm not out in the public on that, although people know heard me say that,

Alex Ferrari 41:24
Yeah, exactly. So they'll, they'll know that's fascinating. So you're not, you're not playing, you're not going to Vegas and just roll, you know, like, Okay, I know what, what? Who's going to win the NFL the next football game, or the next base

Donna Rebadow 41:36
I go to, I go to Vegas. So part of the Monroe has a MC square program. Joe galenberger, so I do pretty good with the dice. So I can roll the dice, you know, a half an hour. And I do that just for a little bit, and I always give the money away. It's just for fun, silly,

Alex Ferrari 41:53
But that's the one thing that's very interesting to make people aware of, is that I've heard this from so many different psychic mediums and channelers, but psychic specifically is that they can't use their abilities, like, Oh, what are the lottery ticket numbers? Or, you know, you can't do things you might be able to do consulting for somebody else as a client, like, business like, hey, you know, buy this stock, now, sell this, that kind of thing. But it's generally not. It's kind of frowned upon when you're given these gifts that you just want to go after material things. It's generally not in the rule book, if you will,

Donna Rebadow 42:32
Very bad choice.

Alex Ferrari 42:35
You were doing it with your nephew. Were you doing it with your nephew? You said, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, when you went to him and you said, Listen, I don't feel comfortable, he's like, Oh man, my like, My sacred cow, my golden goose is,

Donna Rebadow 42:55
We did a whole run. We did six NFL playoff games. And I said that, that was it, you know, just

Alex Ferrari 43:00
Did he do well? Did it? Did it work? Did he do well, yeah,

Donna Rebadow 43:03
I mean, I got all six so, like, well, because you're not, you're not, you're you're in another realm. And I just was like, Let's not do this. So let's do something else. So you learn your lesson. You know, they scold you too, you know you kind of, you get, you know, like it's not so I get, I get guided and scolded. No, yeah,

Alex Ferrari 43:26
So did. How long did it take you to since you're, like, a psychology, you know, a teacher of psychology, how long did it take you to psychologically process what happened to you and like, Did you deny it to yourself? Did you go, was I just dreaming? Was it? Yeah, okay, good. So you knew it was real, but, yeah, so how did you psych even so with, even though it was very vivid and you understood what happened on the other side is everything you know instantly here, though, you've got to process it. How long did you psychologically process it and without support? By the way, other than your best friend, your family was of no support and nothing like that, and you just kind of shut down. So that's even harder to process. How did you do it?

Donna Rebadow 44:14
So first of all, the whole first year and a half two years, was all about my physical I had to deal with healing on my leg. And if anybody's ever had nerve damage, I'm talking about major nerve damage in my leg. So it took a long time to to deal with the physical. And then I went back and I started teaching. I'm back in the classroom, so this happened in July, and I'm back in the classroom in September. And so it's just had to explain to kids, well, I was in a boating accident, so if I drag my leg across the room, you know, don't, don't be afraid. So I'm back in my real life. And so teachers get summers off. So it was during the summers that I was like, what was that? Now, keep in mind the cosmology. Yeah, so you grew up with a certain thing about what God or Heaven or what this might look like, and it was nothing like that. So it was like processing and processing, going, what was that? What did, what part, what was that said, Oh, my God. Oh, my God. This is like, How do I tell anybody? There's no concepts I you know, I'm a teacher, you know, we use words. We have to, you know, we have to make sure our students understand us. But there was no it took me a long time to try to find vocabulary and meaning. And yeah, it started when I went and gave that talk, and I started slowly learning how to speak, how to use words what you know, what's the best way to say this? So it took a long time, and I still it's very difficult for me. During the day, you know, I'm every moment by every moment, every situation. I'm doing all this work. At night, when I go into my room and shut the door, I can be back in heaven. I can be back with with my angels, with what happened with God. I can be back and say, you know, okay, I'm gonna do your work. You know. Are you gonna? Is it this year? Can you kind of tell me what's coming? Don't get to know that same bed, you know, just keep going. We'll tell you when, and just do the podcast and do this music and write this book. So I wrote a book about my my guide dog, I trained seeing eye dog. So that was the book I wrote. And, you know, just keep, keep adding. But at night, you can come home,

Alex Ferrari 46:37
And when you say you come home, like, is that when you sleep? Or is that just when you

Donna Rebadow 46:42
No, no, it's, it's, it's, it's, I, that's my meditation time. That's my I'm conscious. I'm in and I will continue when I fall asleep. You know, I ask my angels to continue that consciousness for me. You know, either through a dream state or something like that.

Alex Ferrari 47:01
Do you have any it doesn't seem like you have any fear of death anymore. No, you just have a fear of how it's going to happen. And to be fair, you've been traumatized, you've died. So I understand that. You know, I don't have, I mean, we all, I think, have a fear of, like, oh God, are we going to die, like, this long, miserable death of pain? Are we going to just fall asleep and would not wake up, you know? Or is it going to be something quick that happens that you've done kind of thing? We all have that, but you actually did die. So you're a little bit more traumatized than most.

Donna Rebadow 47:36
Well, in July, July of last year I got a breast cancer diagnosis. Oh, I'm so sorry. So when people, when the when this doctor told me she was expecting, my God, instead, it was like, Okay, what do we need to do? You know, it's, you can't kill someone who's already dead. Like, that's a famous you know, Sensei, when you do martial arts, I'm a brown in judo. So when you you know, it's like, okay, what do we need to do? So, surgery, let's do it. Radiation, let's go for it. Didn't have to do chemo, but I'm on a medicine, and I'm like, okay, whatever. And then, and then my leg kicked in. And I was driving from Denver to Phoenix, I say to my, my, something's wrong. Something's wrong with my leg. So we get to Phoenix, and so I have a blood clots. Long, of course. Okay, what do we need to do? I was like, so when I go in, I go, What are you guys doing like, you know, I'm What are you doing to me? Like you want to take me now, or you can take me piece by piece. Okay, whatever it's like, I don't say what's next. Never say what's next. Don't say that to your guides and angels. Ask what's next. Just say, okay, you know it's moved through this experience, and you know, so it doesn't. So I'm not like the normal, you know? I mean, I rang my bell when I, you know, after the fifth radiation, they say you're cancer free. Ring the bell and I'm like, okay, you know, people are like, Why are you so chill?

Alex Ferrari 49:20
Because I died.

Donna Rebadow 49:24
Can't kill someone. Are you already dead?

Alex Ferrari 49:26
I mean, you can't kill him twice, maybe with you, yes, but, but generally, when you're dead, you're dead.

Donna Rebadow 49:34
There's people I know that have been 10 and I'm like, oh, good lord, I would be quick yelling you. I would be running to that line.

Alex Ferrari 49:44
So let me, let me ask you, you've you've come back, You've obviously done a lot of, a lot of research and studying in the spiritual space before you died afterwards, I'm assuming that you've probably gone down. And also just have a direct down. Loads from your angels and your in your spirit guides on the other side. So you are pretty well aware of a lot of things that happens to the soul and why it happens to the soul. Have you ever asked yourself the question, or your guys, the question was, Is this life a karmic what what do I What is my No, no, but what is, what is the karma of walking around with a disability like a leg or the trauma that happened is there? Did you ever ask like, is this, what? Why am I? Why am I going through this in this lifetime? Is the question.

Donna Rebadow 50:34
I've never in my life now, I've gone from things, from being a waitress in Switzerland, a professional athlete, being in the basement, Hall of Fame to flying airplanes. So I never asked why. The only thing, when things happen and I don't understand, I would say, Help me understand. But there's no I never asked that. I never it doesn't it's not important. It's not important. It's like, you know what cards? Give me the cards, I'll play them. Just give me the strength. It's evolution. Let me evolve into love.

Alex Ferrari 51:08
I love what you just said. Give me the cards and I'll play them. It's such an important concept to understand is that we are all here to play the game, yeah, and we're dealt. We're dealt a certain hand, and that is, that's the hand we play. Now, how you play with that hand is up to you. You were born, you know, you were born a woman in this time period in this country. I was born a male, Latino male in this country at this time period. And these are the cards you dealt. You know, that's just the way it is. And now it's how you play with it. So a lot of people listening, that's a really important thing to hold on to do. You have any words of comfort for people who have lost someone, who is close to dying themselves, who are fearful of the other side?

Donna Rebadow 51:58
Well, after I came back, another thing that I did, I was a chaplain at a hospital, and so people wanted to

Alex Ferrari 52:04
you're the most interesting you're, like, the most interesting person in the world. Like those old commercials from Dos Equis, the most interesting man in the world. You are the most interesting woman in the world. There's no, I mean everything throughout this conversation, you would just keep throwing things out very nonchalantly, like, Oh yeah, I'm a brown Bell judo, oh yeah, so I'm a pilot, oh yeah, oh so I'm a teacher, oh yes. Like, constantly, you are so interesting. You've lived a hell of a life, my dear,

Donna Rebadow 52:31
I have, I have, and you saw my bio. Short bio, I can't. It's like, three pages. It's like, well, I don't know what to take out. Exactly. No. I so your question, if we go go back to your question, the heart of your question, what were you asking? You were asking, like, to know the nuance of that,

Alex Ferrari 52:50
Just the words, just the words of of comfort for people who have just lost someone, or is in their own process of dying and knowing that they're going to go to the other side soon, and they're fearful,

Donna Rebadow 53:03
Right! So I've had all those experiences. So my one of my best friends was dying of breast cancer, and I had a she kept saying, Tell me your story. Tell me your story, because she wanted to hold on to the love. My brother in law was afraid of dying, and so we ended up having a shared death experience. So it's like, so I've talked to people. I talk to people all the time, and I try to meet them where they're at. Not have an agenda of my worldview, but again, my guides will be sitting there saying, you know, letting me see their soul, or letting me have an understanding of where they're at, and I just meet them where they're at. Of, you know, I'm not going to be in an argument. I'm just going to, you know, try to tell them what has happened. My my nephew committed suicide, coming back from the war. So it's, it's suicide and suffering and answering all those questions about God. And I said, well, the presence of evil doesn't define whether God's here or not. You know, God, it's, he's, this is a school. And so there's things that are happening that are mysterious. I'm not going to answer for you, but I can tell you, you don't talk to me about your fear. What is it that you're most afraid of? Most of it's the unknown. I said, Well, let me pull back the veil for you and show you, even though it's a designer death, it's still the love. There's some common elements that are there. And so the most common element that's there is the peace and love. You're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna, immediately. It's immediate, the love that you'll feel no matter what nd ear that you're talking to, or the psychic or whatever. So the the fear is the unknown. So take whatever I'm saying to you, and like my brother in law, he's like, I you know. When I came back the next day after we had that big talk, he pointed at me. He goes, You better be right. Looks like I am right. So I knew he needed something strong, you know? I knew he was like, I am right, and that's what you're going to feel. So knock off all this thinking about this other stuff. And I want you to think about that, about that crossing, and what you're going to see and the love you're going to feel, is your mom going to be there? Is your dad going to be there? So emphasize that. So people that die horrendous accidents, they might feel some pain, mostly they don't. And it's immediate people who have suicide. If you listen to my friend Natalie sudman and read the book application of impossible things her, I mean, she talked wonderful theaters that she went through, and just start listening to more near death experiences and and just if you can in the core of you, the core of you have that peace, have that love. But you know people say, well, it's easy for you. You died, and you're experiencing it. And he said, it's been nothing easy about it every day life review, and there's nothing easy about not being able to talk as a podcaster. There's nothing easy to drag your leg around, right? But we're not our physical selves. We're more than that. So I recommend books and videos and podcasts. You know, don't be alone like I was. Don't Don't be alone. Get with a community in a group, and that's what zoom affords us. So listen to YouTube every night. Just breathe and breathe and breathe.

Alex Ferrari 56:39
You said you kind of glanced over something. You said that you had a shared death experience with your brother in law. And you, can you tell us what happened during that explain? Can you explain to the audience what a shared death experience is, and then what exactly happened?

Donna Rebadow 56:57
So a shared death experience is that you're, you could be near someone who's dying. Or, like, when I was back in Denver, my brother in law was, you know, 1000 miles away. But what it is is, at the moment of their death, or that other person's death, the veil is open for you to go there with them. And so you can you're like in the foyer. You're in the foyer of you just get to be like in this little meeting zone. You're just going to help them go off, or you get to say goodbye or whatever. So I was telling my brother in law about this. I said I would like to do a shared death experience with you, if that's okay, because when you when you pass, I'm going to be there because I want to show you around and over here. Yeah, the and he was laughing at that, and I was like,

Alex Ferrari 57:45
Here's the Creator, and here's the Creator, here creator, you might see you might see your your pet dog when you were a kid. He might be there. I can't promise you, right, but there's a line. There's a line that you're across. I'm not there.

Donna Rebadow 58:00
You can't cross yet, exactly. Wow. So I explained this to him, and he said, Sure, sure. So like I said, it was, it was a month between his diagnosis and his death, and I had to get back to Denver so I'd be, had to be the first one say goodbye. But I skeptic, say goodbye while he was in the dying process. So I held his hand and just whisper, you know, some of the stuff I was saying about, you know, let the let the old Cosmos fall away and enter into the new cosmos of love. You're going to be greeted by, by love. And just, you know, let me do that. He said, Yeah. So I came back to Denver. Oh, I told my sister, my other sister, this was my sister's husband, so my other sister, I said, Look, I'm going to tell you something, and you got to just shut up about just grabbed her and said, West is going to pass tomorrow night, after the sister gets here, and just be there for for Cindy song telling you just, you know, be there. So I go back to Denver, and it's the next day, and it's that night, and I, you know, shut my door, going, Okay, well, I fell asleep, and I was like, but I woke up at the time of his death, and I sat up in bed, and I looked up to I looked up to the right, and I could see that he had he got a tunnel. I got to see his tunnel. And he's like in the Superman pose, and I'm going wait for me, and he doesn't turn back to Me. He just says, You did a good job. I'm okay. I went. Can't wait to get there, and then poof, I went, That's not what I wanted,

Alex Ferrari 59:50
Dude. I mean, dude, I just wanted to go back for a minute. Couldn't you help us? Couldn't you help a sister out? I mean,

Speaker 1 59:58
He was like, Oh, I got it. You did good.

Alex Ferrari 1:00:05
Have a conversation with him. When you get over there, I'm like,

Donna Rebadow 1:00:10
You know, dude, I really, you know, you know. Like, I said it was last April, so it was a year now, and when I go into my meditation, I'm like, Hey, Wes, what's going on? Nope, nope, nothing. On the other line, I'm like, okay,

Alex Ferrari 1:00:30
So Donna, this been such a pleasure talking to you about your journey. You have been, it has been, it's been adventurous, to say the least, and the unraveling of, like the onion, of how many things you've done in this life, what you do, it's just you've really lived the full life. So I think you've taken as much you've squeezed all the juice out, as much of it as you can out of this life, and you still got some more juice left. You still got some

Donna Rebadow 1:01:02
\I'm writing, I'm writing my nd story, and then I'm starting at the beginning and writing what it was like to work in a pickle factory, what it's like to be a playground supervisor, what it was like to fly an airplane, what it was like to be a professional athlete. So I have these little books

Alex Ferrari 1:01:22
I'm laughing because of, like, what it was like to work in a pickle factory, a sentence I didn't hear. I didn't think I was going to say this morning or hear this morning when I woke up. That is not one that you hear off, Donna, I'm going to ask you a series of questions I ask all of my guests, what is your definition of living a fulfilled life?

Donna Rebadow 1:01:42
Oh, well, turn off the TV and do things. So if you say you can, or if you say you can't, Henry Ford said you're going to be right. So if you say so, I'm learning, I'm I'm learning the Native American flute, the didgeridoo, the steel drum. So I you can, I don't know how you know, it's like, at some point the teacher that's teaching me didn't know how to play. So it's like, live a fulfilled life, you know. Like, go do stuff, get out, you know. Like, if you don't know where to start, then go feed the hungry, you know, go rock a crack baby in the hospital. Do something. Get out there. So fulfilled life is doing something all the time.

Alex Ferrari 1:02:28
If you had a chance to go back in time and speak to little Donna, what advice would you give her?

Donna Rebadow 1:02:38
Advice?

Alex Ferrari 1:02:38
Yeah, what advice would you give little Donna?

Donna Rebadow 1:02:39
Well, I had a dad that that fulfilled, that I had a great dad that I could talk to all the time. I went to him for advice all the time. So for me, it would be, I guess, Alex, it's a great question. Don't be so hard on yourself. I can't say enjoy life more, because I've enjoyed the heck out of it. It's like just forgive, forgive more. Don't make attribution error, but be kind.

Alex Ferrari 1:03:07
Now, what would little Donna's advice be to you?

Donna Rebadow 1:03:10
So there was some abuse to me in my family, so I had some stuff. So it would, I think little Donna would say to big Donna, will it be okay. It's more a question, as opposed to advice, I would say, I got you, I got you, that's beautiful. I got you, you'll be all right.

Alex Ferrari 1:03:30
How do you define God or Source?

Donna Rebadow 1:03:33
Let's see, um, who's the guy that was on Sesame Street?

Alex Ferrari 1:03:38
Um, Oscar the Grouch.

Donna Rebadow 1:03:40
No, the actor the Morgan Freeman. No, it's Morgan Freeman. Did a whole documentary finding out who God is. Yes, a series, a series. So I'm like, okay, so you're gonna ask me to do a sound bite of say your question, how do you,

Alex Ferrari 1:03:56
How do you, how do you define God or Source?

Donna Rebadow 1:03:59
You can't define, you can't define this source. It's all encompassing, all it's loving. I don't want I say he, for the sake of argument, but he God is high above your waist. You can't even you can't like you said, you know, it's like Saint Francis on the beach, trying to pour, we're trying to pour the whole ocean into this hole. It's like that. It's like, God knows you. He knows you so well. He gives you a unique name. So when you go to the other side, you'll hear that name, and it echoes through the century of all the incarnations, and I didn't believe in the Incarnation, but all the incarnations that you've had, there's one core of you that God knows. He knows and loves despite. There's no guilt shame. It's It's God makes this place here on. Earth meaningful, even though some people can't find meaning here.

Alex Ferrari 1:05:04
What is love?

Donna Rebadow 1:05:05
Love is okay, Alex, don't make me cry if you or if you're a vibration. And everything is vibration frequency. It's being in the arms of the Creator in your vibration is equal to his. It's, it's a it's a dance of safety, of purity, of knowledge. He knows you so well. There was a time when he said, Oh, there's my Donna, that's who God is. Oh, there's my Alex, there you are. Come home.

Alex Ferrari 1:05:47
Now I usually ask this question of people, but I think you've already answered this question, but I'll ask it anyway. If you could ask God one question, what would it be since you had a conversation with the Creator, you asked them you had a ton of so is there any other questions every night, every night? So you're good, you're solid. Okay, how do you define liberation in this lifetime?

Donna Rebadow 1:06:09
Well, the first thing that popped in my head was freedom, and it'd be when I when I do my course in choices, when I teach people about choices, it's you have to look at thinking and beliefs. And beliefs can change. Thinking can change. All that can change over the course of your life. So liberation is getting to the point where you keep every second of every day, letting this life come to you in reacting in love, that's liberation. It's, I don't have to I don't have to figure you out. I don't have to decide whether you're good or bad or I don't have to have any judgment. It's, I leave that. That's your life. I let anyone be Alex. I am intelligent and I not. I don't stand on the corner just giving out tons of money. It's like, how does life come to me? So I let that happen. So the freedom is to be free of all that. Be free of all of anything that would stick. So I don't have to judge you. I don't have to I just have to love you.

Alex Ferrari 1:07:27
And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

Donna Rebadow 1:07:29
To evolve, to evolve, to grow up. Let let go of childish things, to real. Don't take it so personally. Guy cut you off. Don't take it personally. Don't do the fundamental attribution error. Maybe he's getting his wife to the hospital. Like, stop it. Like, just stop. Just beautiful. Just stop. And that there's a freedom in that.

Alex Ferrari 1:07:53
And where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing in the world?

Donna Rebadow 1:07:57
Well, I have a podcast. It's been on suspense for a year while I wrote my Sadie book and had my health issues. But I'm back now so you can find me on exploreconsciousness.com it's just exploreconsciousness.com. Is my website, and then the podcast is exploring consciousness with Donna, and the email is there, but as my friend, Father Nathan Castle, you've had him on, of course, that's wonderful. He's my buddy. We're buddies. He's the Tucson, I'm in Phoenix, so we get together often. Um, as he says, I'll get you out of the ditch, but I won't go down the road with you. So when you email me, if you email me, it's like, I'm not going to, you know, I'm not going to speak for God. Yeah, I'll do healing at night. Here's my healing, Alex, I say to people, I'll put your name on my healing book. So I have a little book, Alex, and then I have what you would like me to to work on. And so I have this big, long book of everybody across the planet. And what I do when I go into meditation, I hand it off to my guides. I said, Okay, take this up to the guy. And you guys work on these things in another realm. So we're vibrating down into a very slow vibration as that's why we have matter so going at some quantum so I do a lot of healing above your physical realm to where you're vibrating above there. So those angels come in and we, we work on you there. Beautiful, so you can, you can email me, but please just No, I can get you out of the ditch, but I'm not going down the road.

Alex Ferrari 1:09:42
Beautiful, beautiful saying. And do you have any parting messages for the audience?

Donna Rebadow 1:09:46
Go easy on yourself. Forgive, forgive, forgive. Watch your belief system and your thinking. Be aware. Just don't go through life. So my advice would be, is to be aware of. Your of yourself, be aware of others. So go through life with an awareness, not asleep. And I don't like the word woke. No, it's, it's aware, you know, be be aware of what you're doing, how what's your stamp? And I say to my friends, do you want that on your life?

Alex Ferrari 1:10:23
Donna, it has been such a pleasure talking to you. Thank you again. So much for sharing your story, sharing teaching, your teachings, and everything that you're doing to help awaken this planet. I truly, truly appreciate you, my dear. So thank you again.

Donna Rebadow 1:11:12
Thank you, Alex. I appreciate you having me.