Alex Ferrari 0:00
What part is religion play in the next 10 years, 50 years, 100 years, of humanity. Because I feel that people are going away from religion and starting to go back into what Christ actually talked about

Concetta Bertoldi 0:10
The other side told me there was somebody coming. What my fear comes in, when it comes in, is knowing what's going on in the world right now, and knowing that there are people being very judgmental about other religions, I know this. We're being challenged to choose God. Your heart has to be in it, your empathy has to be in it. Your honesty has to be in it. I don't care what your religion is but find something that you believe in in your faith.

Alex Ferrari 0:44
For people who are really afraid out there, what advice do you have for them on how to deal with this?

Concetta Bertoldi 0:49
It's change the channel. What that means is...

Alex Ferrari 1:02
I like to welcome back to the show returning champion, Concetta Bertoldi, Bertoldi, Bertoldi, Bertoldi, I you know, I got close. I got a close. Great to see you again. Concetta, how are you my dear?

Concetta Bertoldi 1:16
Oh, God, let me first do this.

Alex Ferrari 1:21
Ah, thank you so much. I appreciate that.

Concetta Bertoldi 1:25
I missed you, and it's wonderful to be back,

Alex Ferrari 1:28
Yes! Thank you so much. It's been, it's been, like almost a couple years now since you've been on

Concetta Bertoldi 1:33
Time flies.

Alex Ferrari 1:34
I times flies, but you always, you made such an impression

Concetta Bertoldi 1:38
Ohh thank you!

Alex Ferrari 1:39
I always have you on the back of my head and

Concetta Bertoldi 1:41
Thank you!

Alex Ferrari 1:42
We were thinking the other day, I'm like, Who can we bring back? I'm like, Oh, we haven't Concetta out forever. We got to bring her back. So that's why we reached out. So thank you again for being here. Our last conversation was a hit. People loved it. You got a bunch of you got a few emails.

Concetta Bertoldi 1:57
Oh, that's wonderful. A lot of people too. I will tell you that you are my favorite podcast. Truly. The people you have on are so insightful and so beautiful, and the stories are truly amazing. I truly love your podcast. I tell everyone so you I feel like you're the best one with this subject matter on.

Alex Ferrari 2:20
Oh, I appreciate. That means a lot to me. Thank you so much. I do. I do what I can. And it's, it's, it's a labor of love. To be honest with you, I really do enjoy doing this. And I imagine, since you watch a lot of our episodes, you see a lot of other psychic mediums on as well. It's in its gotta imagine, it must be, I mean, you've been doing this for a few, for a minute or two now, so, but seeing a lot of these, lot of psychic mediums, the new generation coming up, and other people in the way they approach it. How do you like? How do you what do you see? What do you learn from watching all of them and like and seeing that kind of stuff?

Concetta Bertoldi 2:59
Yeah, that's interesting. I love that question. Actually, you, as you can imagine, there are some real wonderful people out there who have this ability. And as you can also understand, there are people that you know. I feel bad saying it, because there are some people who have, I call it that attitude, that you know they I, what is it that I always say, you know that they're, they're charlatans. They're what I would call boardwalk psychics. This is the attitude they have every man for themselves. That's, that's how I look at it. And I really get upset when I can tell that that's somebody who has that attitude of every man for himself. What it means is that they wouldn't help somebody else, or if they saw somebody that they were drowning, they might run the other way. And I've met people that have that, God, I hate to sound like this, but that

Alex Ferrari 3:55
Energy,

Concetta Bertoldi 3:56
Yeah, they have that energy, and they're claiming to do this work, and it offends me greatly because that's not part of this work. I do not have that attitude. But I say there are people out there like that, but then there are some people who are extremely legitimate and have an amazing talent. So I can tell the difference.

Alex Ferrari 4:16
You can see you can definitely tell the difference. It's something that I always like to tell people I was like, just because people have the ability

Concetta Bertoldi 4:23
Right

Alex Ferrari 4:23
Of psychic mediumship in them, or channeling, or any of these kind of extracurricular, you know, talents doesn't make them a good person, and you can't

Concetta Bertoldi 4:34
That's my point. I had a hard time saying it, because I don't want to be start out negative on your podcast.

Alex Ferrari 4:39
No, no, no, no, of course not. I asked the question because it's something that I think it needs to be talked about, because as as more of as more attention is being brought to this space. I mean, again, you've been doing this for a while now, so you know where it came from and where we're, where we are, and arguably, where it's going. When people see money, people rush in, yeah.

Concetta Bertoldi 5:00
And you go,

Alex Ferrari 5:01
And you've got to be and you have to have this, and that's one of the biggest things I'm good. I'm really starting to talk a lot about now is discernment.

Concetta Bertoldi 5:07
Oh,

Alex Ferrari 5:07
Your own personal discernment, what rings true to you? Because at the end of the day, it's all about finding the power within yourself.

Concetta Bertoldi 5:16
I was just saying that this afternoon, there was a young girl at my house today, and we were talking about that, because she's very interested in taking it a step further her ability. And we had that conversation. You know, your heart has to be in it, your empathy has to be in it, your honesty has to be in it. So it will come through in your delivery. I've met and I've worked with other mediums that some have been on your show, and you know, I have a strong opinions on some of them, and I, you know, I wouldn't never say it publicly on this forum, because I don't want to hurt anybody. But I've met people that are very famous that do this, and sadly, I feel they're well again, every man for themselves. Attitude, you know,

Alex Ferrari 6:07
I get you, I get you completely again. So if anybody

Concetta Bertoldi 6:10
Back in the competition, I don't mean to do that, because there's, there's some really amazing people. You ever meet George Anderson? You ever meet?

Alex Ferrari 6:18
No, I don't know who George Anderson is

Concetta Bertoldi 6:21
Beautiful human being, really, and he's a medium and very legitimate, and has his heart in the right place. At some point, there was a book written about him, Oh God, and it was called, we don't die Patricia Romanowski. And I forget the other guy's name. They wrote the book, and was about him, and it was so beautiful. And I did finally get to meet him, but he was very well known back, you know, in the 70s, I think before I was public. And what was amazing about him is he was so he was so overbooked, and he was raised in his family that was very religious, and they were not happy that he heard dead people. They put him through shock treatments. It's a very amazing story, but he became so famous that he, at some point, he just worked with people who lost children, because he didn't have enough time in the day to work with everybody. So he worked with people who lost children. But he was utterly amazing. I don't know how old he is today, because I I knew him when I was very young, and I know my age now. So who God knows how old he is?

Alex Ferrari 7:29
Very interesting to say that, because, you know, there's, there's a lot of people like I said, coming into the space. And I don't want to be all about this. I don't want the conversation to turn out all about this. But it's something really, the discernment aspect of things. It has to be really, you really got to listen to your gut. You really have to listen to that, because psychic mediums have a very deep responsibility. And there is, should be ethics in regards to how they approach their work. And it is work. It is work. I mean, yeah, you want to give and you

Concetta Bertoldi 8:01
Because they look at me and think, you're I'm just talking, and they think, Oh, why would she be tired? You know, all she's doing is talking. They don't realize I'm using energy, and the energy is being processed, and it is exhausting. And when I do an event, and after an event, I'm so exhausted, but I totally agree with you the responsibility behind all of this, and that's why I try very hard to be careful in my delivery, because you could say something the wrong way, and someone becomes, you know, very heartbroken, worse than they might have came into the situation. So I have to be very careful, but I always say the proof is in the pudding. If you talk, I forgive me for being so bold. But if you talk to people that I've worked for or with, whatever way you want to put it, and listen to what they say about their experience with me, I'm pretty hopeful, and I don't want to be, you know, conceited, but the proof is in the pudding. And what people say, in my opinion,

Alex Ferrari 9:10
Right! And that's how you got the kind of gonna go down that road now. And now, if people want to listen more about your backstory and how you got started and everything, they can listen to our first interview, which will be linked in the description as well, because it was a beautiful conversation. Beautiful conversation. So much fun, so much because you're so much fun.

Concetta Bertoldi 9:26
Thanks for having Jersey girl back

Alex Ferrari 9:31
I love I love my jersey girls, I love you. Don't forget, I was raised in Jamaica. Queens back,

Concetta Bertoldi 9:38
Understand.

Alex Ferrari 9:40
Oh yes, I understand. No. I call it the old country, New York, yeah, which is my old country, if you will. So conceit that with everything that's happening right now in the world, I really wanted to kind of discuss a lot of the fear that's happening, a lot of the things that are happening. And to be fair. There is a lot of things happening currently, not even in the future. Like there's one thing to be afraid of, like, oh, something's coming. But currently, in our everyday lives, there's so much uncertainty. We are being put into a world with a lot of the leaders around the world. And this is not just a US thing or a UK thing or a China thing, like all all around seem to be really shaking things up.

Concetta Bertoldi 10:28
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 10:28
Some some in good, some in positive, some in negative. It's regardless. It's all about perspective, I guess, in that sense. But there is still a lot of shakeups happening, and there's a lot of uncertainty, the the foundation that we've been sitting on for so many decades, if not hundreds of years even

Concetta Bertoldi 10:47
I call it the ignorance we've been sitting on for a long time.

Alex Ferrari 10:51
Fair enough, the ignorance that we've been sitting on for a long time now is starting to bubble up, and all that's coming up. So what do you when you tune into the world right now? What is the first thing that you feel?

Concetta Bertoldi 11:01
Well, the first thing I feel is, I, you know, when I was young, ignorance was bliss, because now knowing all that I know is really it's a tough world. But I, I think I've said this to you before, and I'll repeat it. I do know for sure that God always wins, and we're in a war right now, not just Iran and whatever's going on around the country, the world, and other wars that are going on. Man is involved in a very big war on Earth right now, energetically, I truly, I don't want to say I know this. I know this. We're being challenged to choose God. It's as simple as that. It's so simple because there is activity from the other side that is so evil and so ugly, and it is you can see it if you really want to see it. And ignorance is no longer bliss because we're being forced to see it. And there is a choice we have to make, that we choose God or turn our back on God. It comes down to we are here to love each other. We're here to love each other despite our differences and well, I can't tell anybody who to vote for, who to believe in, or whatever, because my choice is always going to believe that I believe in God, and that God always wins and is the master of the universe. And I say that very proudly. I don't hide that faith at all in terms of what everybody else chooses and what way they choose to go about it that's individual. I just know that if you allow yourself to find sound so simple but love in your heart, and stop being so judgmental, and stop being so quick to be mean, and try find a way to give, as John Lennon would say, give peace a chance, you know. And I truly believe that that is going to happen. It's just a matter of time. And I think the world is being shown different things, because we're supposed to wake up. It's almost like we're watching a movie. It's if you watch what's going on and turn on, I don't I try to stay away from it, because it affects me so terribly. I mean, it really does have an effect on my emotional state of mind. So I just stay plugged into God, and that gets me through a lot.

Alex Ferrari 13:33
Yeah. I mean, not only do I believe that God is the, you know, the master of the universe, He is the universe we all and we are and we're all part of that.

Concetta Bertoldi 13:42
And I was talking to some two I did two people this morning. They were Muslim, and they were so beautiful, and they were so kind. And boy, oh boy, their mother had died, and the readings went splendidly. I was so proud of my work. But as I was talking to them, it I'm reminded that we are all the same, and that their mother died, and they were heartbroken, and they wanted to know that she was okay. And it's something we all want. It's something we're all looking for, faith and hope. And anyway, I hung up the phone feeling so good about it, you know, because I was able, because if you do readings for people for different religions, you're not I don't know about anybody else, but I worry that I'm going to say something that's against their religion. And I don't want to do that, you know, I don't want to, because I don't know their religion, and I don't know what they would find offensive, and I don't know if I would say something to them that sounded like I was judging them. I don't want to do that, so I stuck to the subject, and that was their mother, and she came through with flying colors, boy, and it was wonderful. And I like I said, I hung up feeling really good about myself and really good about them. And. And knowing that they got peace from knowing their mother was in another place, well and in a miracle of a place.

Alex Ferrari 15:08
You know, it's interesting that you say that, because I haven't really thought about, you know, psychic mediums who do readings for people of multiple faiths. Because, to be fair, contrary, I don't think they're going to be upset at you if you say something inappropriate, because they're coming to you, right? So if they're coming, if they're Muslim, and they're coming to you, they're like, listen, she doesn't know who I am. Like, they've already, they've already walked in the door. So I, I think you're safe there. But with all the readings you've done, and I'm sure you've done a couple in your lifetime, with how many different kinds of religious backgrounds did you come through and how did they find you? Because I have to believe that there is, if someone's, let's say Muslim, you know, I don't I know Sufis aren't psychics, but there has to be an equivalent mystical aspect. And I know Sufism is kind of that for the Muslims, but that's more mystic, as opposed to psychic or metaphysical. So there has to be a version of a psychic medium for that culture. I don't know what that is. I'm not I'm not educated in that, but that they came to you I find fascinating. So what was that? How did they find you? Just out of curiosity, or they just,

Concetta Bertoldi 16:20
I find it equally as fascinating. Yeah, I do. Because I'm always amazed how, you know, I talk to a lot of Italians, yeah, obviously they're like, Concetta Bertoli. We're going to call her, Okay, I am Oh, you know what I'm saying. But, oh, there was a that was a real ginzo response. You know what I'm saying.

Alex Ferrari 16:42
Hey, how you doing? Are you are you doing? That's my Joey Tribbiani, that's my Joey Tribbiani,

Concetta Bertoldi 16:51
Oh boy soprano, so anyway, here's the thing. I'm always equally amazed, because even just last week, I was talking to some young people who were Vietnamese, you know, and their family members, like six of them, Vietnamese, you know. And I don't even know what their religion is. I just knew it wasn't mine. And way, I'm kind of a half Catholic anyway, because I never made my communion, confirmation, none of that. But I do believe that Jesus and Mary are my go to, okay, they're they're my people. And even though I don't follow the rules of Catholicism or what the Pope says, I have a whole view on that, that I don't want to get ugly, but I believe Jesus and Mary. So knowing that, I know there's different religions, obviously, I know Muslim is a different religion, Jewish is a different religion. Vietnamese. I didn't even know what you know. But the important thing is, if I stick to my subject and let them just tell me what they're saying to validate themselves and the proof that they were in their lives to begin with, and that they are validating the people they're with on that side, it works out perfectly. So I just stick with my subject, you know. But what my fear comes in when it comes in is knowing what's going on in the world right now and knowing that there are people being very judgmental about other religions, and I don't want to sound like I have picked up some of that negativity in judging their religion, so that's why, and I don't know what what might be, because I would never want to be judgmental, you know, I don't. I don't live my life that way. And I was raised by people who accepted all people. Thank God I was perfect candidate to do what I'm doing, because my parents respected everybody. But what I do know is that we're all human, and when we lose somebody we love, we're hurt, and we want to feel better, and we want to feel optimistic. And you give me a chance, whatever your religion is, I will hopefully let you know the person is alive and well, and they're in a different place than this place we call Earth. I don't call it Earth. I call it camp Earth, because this is not home.

Alex Ferrari 19:16
The more you travel around the world, and the more interaction you have with other cultures, other religions, other societies, you start to realize that everyone's wants the exact same thing. We all want to be happy. We all want to be loved. We want to have a roof over our head, some food in our bellies, and our loved ones around. They want you want your kids to succeed like it's all the same,

Concetta Bertoldi 19:37
All this,

Alex Ferrari 19:38
All all the same, regardless of that. And I find it so fascinating. And that was the problem I had with Catholicism when I was raised in it is that, that, you know, like, we're the only way. I'm like, Well, you know, there's a billion Buddhist out there, there's another billion Muslims out there. There's another, you know, God knows how many other different religions all around so, I mean, you know, when there's, like. Well, if you don't follow this way, you're poor. Oh, too bad you were, you were you were born that you guess you're not gonna make it kind of like it. Just found it faster. And I don't know about you, if you ever run into a Christian and you tell them you're Catholic, they're like, Oh, that's a shame you're a Catholic. Yeah, it's not. It's hilarious when you start looking at us, like,

Concetta Bertoldi 20:21
Really,

Alex Ferrari 20:22
How many, how many different, how many different branches of Jesus are there on the planet? I mean, seriously, Lutheran Baptist, Greek Orthodox, you know, just so many.

Concetta Bertoldi 20:37
So true. That's why I love Goldie horn. She's a perfect person to to reference, because she was raised by a Jewish mother and father, and yet she openly states she loves Buddhism. You know, she celebrates Christmas. There's Christmas trees in her house, and yet she loves her Jewish religion as well. So she's like multi I just love that multicultural thing. You know, I was raised that way because my brothers, one in heaven, one here. You know, my my oldest brother, who passed away, was gay, and my mother and father would always say, Whoever he brings home is welcome in our home, and we're going to love Him because we love our son, and we're going to make that happen. And my younger brother, he dated every color in the universe. We never knew what girl he was going to bring home. And we had so much fun, you know, celebrating whatever it was he bringing home his his wife now, of 25 years is Chinese. So I know about Chinese New Year's and this and that, and I love all the little Chinese words that she says. You know, I think there's a word I'm looking for. I can't think of it. But anyway, the point is, I love somebody who can accept everybody else. I really do, because there's so much to learn and so much to celebrate, not just the food culture and all the differences, you know what?

Alex Ferrari 22:00
Absolutely, oh no. I mean, look the food.

Concetta Bertoldi 22:03
But I love, I love Mexican food. I love barbecue food, you know?

Alex Ferrari 22:08
Why wouldn't? Why wouldn't you and I would expect Goldie Hawn to have Christmas trees in her house because she played Mrs. Claus. So, I mean,

Concetta Bertoldi 22:18
Goldie, so you can't, you know I go beautiful,

Alex Ferrari 22:24
Private Benjamin, that's all

Concetta Bertoldi 22:26
My favorites.

Alex Ferrari 22:28
I'm dating myself. But yes,

Concetta Bertoldi 22:30
I was overboard because they were both in it together.

Alex Ferrari 22:33
Oh, God, overboard is such a great movie. I love, love, love the original overboard. Oh,

Concetta Bertoldi 22:37
And

Alex Ferrari 22:38
And you saw the chemistry, man, the chemistry.

Concetta Bertoldi 22:41
You couldn't deny it

Alex Ferrari 22:42
Absolutely so. So, Concetta with all the stuff going on around the world, what do you what are you seeing in regards to these wars? Is it? Is it gonna? I mean, my understanding, is it gonna, it's gonna get a little wilder before it gets better.

Concetta Bertoldi 22:56
Really heartbreaking too, because I have a very well, I have a few very dear friends from, you know, the wars that are going on in Not, not Ivan, my mind is so blank right now,

Alex Ferrari 23:07
Ukraine?

Concetta Bertoldi 23:08
Ukraine, have a very dear friend from Ukraine, and her, her family is all there. And, you know, she tells me what's going on for her family there. And it breaks my heart. I again, I'm going to say it. I truly believe that there is it's being created, I should say created by evil and being created by negativity and the people that are in charge in these places, they don't want to bring, listen, I'm sounding so judgmental, but they don't want to bring God into their heart. If they did, they would, they would get together, sit down, talk it over, figure it out.

Alex Ferrari 23:45
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Concetta Bertoldi 24:06
You know what I'm saying?

Alex Ferrari 24:08
Right! No, they have no interest in in anything positive coming out of it. It's all about power or ego or control,

Concetta Bertoldi 24:14
Exactly, you know. And if you bring it back down to as simple as even in your own life, in your own life, you've known people that you've argued with, a friend that betrayed you, a family member that was a real pickle, puss, whatever the case may be, and you can't change them. You know that you get to a point where you finally say, I've got to stay away from you, because your negativity is rubbing off on me, you know? And I hear it in my work. I hear it in my work, where people are, oh, God, betrayed by wills. I mean, the mother died and they have a brother who screwed the sister out of all the money in some way, found a way to names and signatures. And I just sit back and say, how do you live with yourself knowing you're doing that? Never. Mind to your own family member. You know what I'm saying, but I hear it a lot, and it's going on sadly.

Alex Ferrari 25:05
Out of all the readings you've had, what is the funniest one you've ever you can remember?

Concetta Bertoldi 25:11
I wish I had heard that question before, because I probably I have. There are so many times I say, I wish I wrote this down, because I hang up with somebody and I say, and the person says, How did you know that? Or what was and I'm sitting there going, they told me, but I found it amazing, too. But I move on to the next thing, and I don't write it down, so unless I'm working on a book, you know? But there have been some times where it utterly amazing thing comes out, and I remember, well, this is one that was just came to my mind that was amazing. I remember doing a reading for somebody, let me see if I can remember this now. And the family member told me on the other side, there was a cousin that was his brother, and that he said, That's impossible. And I was delivering this message they wanted them to know. And it took about a year and a half later that somebody called me up. The person called me up and said, Well, you were right, because they argued with me on the phone and got in really annoyed at what I was saying. You know, here's that's why I'm very careful in my delivery. But somebody wanted this person to know that it was their brother and not their cousin. And I just remember when they found out, and then calling me up, I was very happy that that they found out anyway. But funny stories, funny stories I I'm trying to think, because I'm sure there are some things that have been funny, but off the top of my head, most of the things I remember that stand out in my readings are the amazing validations that people say one today, it's only one I like I told you. I move on. I was talking to this gentleman today. His mother, who had passed away, told me that there was many, many children around him, and he said, I don't have any kids. I said, Oh, why? Why is she showing me all kids all around you, and that you really make a difference with kids. They're all around you. Well, it turns out he owns a preschool with children in preschool. So then she told me that he made a difference. And I couldn't say the names, the names are names I wouldn't understand, but she said that he made a difference in a young girl's life that was enamored with him, looked up to him, and I forget the other details she made. And he said, Well, I have a niece. Well, no, a god child, he said, and it's and I knew it was a girl. I said, it's a little girl. And he said, she's my godchild. And every time she would come, she would always and I forget how he said his name, but she knew how to say it, and she wanted to just sit on his desk, sit up and talk to him. And then I said to him, Well, he goes, it's got to be her, because I can't think of anybody else. And then I said to him, does twins have anything to do with it? And he said, Yes, she was a twin. I thought, thank you, mommy, because she gave me enough information to know exactly who she was talking about. And those are little things that I love, you know, because anybody could get on a phone and do a reading and say, Oh, they love you. They miss you. Well, unless they had a adversarial relationship and they had a decent relationship, it's going to make sense. But in all fairness, I don't look for that. I look for details that are very unique, and those are the ones that make me the happiest, because there'd be no way I would know, you know, and that is in the pudding for the person,

Alex Ferrari 28:33
Yeah, when you have a reading and they're like, Oh, your grandfather is here, your grandmother is here, and they love you very much, and, oh, they're so proud of what you've done and and they're ha and they're happy you've done this or that. And unless it starts getting into real minuscule details, like, by the way, your grandpa's telling you that the accountant you have right now is going to screw up in about six months, and then six months later, you call up and coach that, I swear to God, he forgot to file this one thing, and now it's causing all sorts of headache. That's what you're looking for.

Concetta Bertoldi 29:04
Forgive me. But I get it. I get that. I Not to sound boastful, however, the other side has been wonderful to me. God bless them all, because they've been wonderful to me. But I think that I, what I do differently than other mediums is that? Well, not all other meetings, but this is what I do differently, in my opinion. Okay, I have, how do I say this? I not only show respect to the other side, but I give the other side. I asked for their permission. The person subject I'm talking to do I have your permission to eavesdrop this conversation so that the other side is I'm showing them the respect they deserve, you know, and I'm very grateful that they're allowing me to deliver whatever message they want me to give, you know, and I we and I'm always so humble and grateful. I I never take it for granted. I'm always Thank. You so much. That was wonderful. What you just told me, you know, I'm really I think that makes, it makes a big difference. The other side is willing to help when you show them the respect that they deserve.

Alex Ferrari 30:11
And let me ask you a question when you're when you're speaking to someone, because I'm still fascinated with the multi religion aspect of this of your work, sometimes, when you're speaking to a Muslim family and someone from the other side comes through that was of that religion. What is that like? Because they're, let's say you were a hardcore Bible thumping Catholic.

Concetta Bertoldi 30:36
Yes, let's go

Alex Ferrari 30:38
Let's just go that because, because we know that,

Concetta Bertoldi 30:41
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 30:41
Right. And basically you're doing the devil's work, obviously,

Concetta Bertoldi 30:45
Oh,

Alex Ferrari 30:45
Yeah, exactly. But then when you and you might have, and I'm sure in your work, you've probably met someone, or had someone like that in your family, who then crosses over, and when you connect, they're like, Oops, you know, sorry, I gave you such a hassle.

Concetta Bertoldi 30:59
Well

Alex Ferrari 31:00
It's that what happens?

Concetta Bertoldi 31:01
Absolutely happened and true, my friend, let's see. How can I tell you one story? Well, first of all, okay, it's in my family, so I can divulge it. I had a on my father's side of the family. This ability was very pronounced, okay, so I have cousins from my father's side of the family who knew about my grandfather, who had this ability, and they had no problem with any of it, but they were, sadly, some of them dishonest people, and did some very dishonest things in their life. They went on to become born again Christians, and I'm not knocking the religion,

Alex Ferrari 31:40
Sure,

Concetta Bertoldi 31:40
The first thing they did, because I am a honest person, and I would never hurt anybody. I like to think I do the best I can. I certainly wouldn't let me put it this way. I wouldn't do the things that they did. Okay. That said, then, if they became born again Christians, they started pointing the finger at me, because I was because I heard dead people like my grandfather, and they became so and my father was so annoyed at this, and my husband said, you know, What's really amazing about that? I said, What? He said, It's okay for them to talk to Jesus who's been dead for 2000 years, but they don't like the fact that you're talking to somebody's grandfather that just died last week. He seriously, you know, it was such a great thing to say, you know, but in all fairness, I don't want to judge anybody, and I don't want anybody mad at me. I just tell them, Look, you do what's good for you, and if it brings you peace, I'm happy for you. But

Alex Ferrari 32:35
Absolutely

Concetta Bertoldi 32:36
Don't take this away from me. It gives me great peace.

Alex Ferrari 32:39
I mean, I understand it honestly, because once you once you buy into a story, and that's the problem, I think, throughout throughout human history,

Concetta Bertoldi 32:47
Right!

Alex Ferrari 32:47
My story has to be right, so yours can't be right, because if yours is right, then that that negates or disrupts my story. And some people can let live and let live, you know, because I don't agree with everything that everyone says on my show. I don't agree with everything that everybody I ever meet, but I don't, I don't just start judging them or bashing them to believe what I believe, because that works for me,

Concetta Bertoldi 33:11
Right!

Alex Ferrari 33:12
And by the way, the story I'm working with right now is very different than the story I was working with two years ago or five years ago or 10 years ago. It's an ever evolving thing. So just like your your relatives, who are one way doing not so nice things, and all of a sudden they're they're born again. Then all of a sudden they're like, Well, this is my new story. And then we're like, what? Oh, her. She's not doing okay. Now I need and it's becomes ego and control and all of that. It comes mean.

Concetta Bertoldi 33:40
Mean, and I had a guy one time come to my house. I had a problem with my rim on my car. I dented it, whatever. And so we had my friend who owns the auto body, has a guy that works and comes to your home and can fix the rim. So he came here and he saw the name on my office door, and he was very kind and very nice. And then he looked at my side. He said, Oh, is that you? And I yeah, I'm Concetta bertolti. And he said, Oh, what are you a decorator? And I said, No, no, no, I'm not a decorator. He goes, Oh, well, what do you do? And I wasn't going to go, I don't just automatically jump into that, especially now after learning all these years of being public. But I said to him, Well, I'm a medium. And he went, Wait a minute. Don't stop right there. Don't say another word. I'll fix your tire. But don't talk to me. I'm a Christian. And I went, Well, wait a minute. You don't understand. I am a very faithful woman, and I believe in God, and I started to defend myself, and he said, I don't want to hear it. I'm going to fix your tire. Don't say another word to me. It was so ugly, and it reminds me of what you and I were talking earlier, which is, what's going on in the world. We're being spoon fed so much. Much stuff on every news channel

Alex Ferrari 35:03
And social media,

Concetta Bertoldi 35:05
Yes, social media, news channel, whatever outlet you want to choose, and people are just sitting home and just taking believe it. It has to be, because they said it, no,

Alex Ferrari 35:17
But that, I agree with you that, but there's a change happening Concetta,

Concetta Bertoldi 35:21
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 35:21
Your generation, definitely, without question. It's my father, my father, my and definitely my grandparents,

Concetta Bertoldi 35:27
Right!

Alex Ferrari 35:28
Believed the news. Oh, my God, that has to be real. Or a doctor, or a doctor walks in the Yeah, Doctor says something, it's, it's gospel,

Concetta Bertoldi 35:35
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 35:36
But the new, but the new generation is not like that. The kids coming. They're not buying it. No, not buying it.

Concetta Bertoldi 35:44
I admire them for it. I admire them for it. Because I remember when I was very young, if a doctor said something, I just took them as, I don't want to use this expression, but almost like they were, God, they haven't. Oh, yeah, you know,

Alex Ferrari 35:58
Of course,

Concetta Bertoldi 36:00
Honestly, that's not true, and now I question everything.

Alex Ferrari 36:04
And so with that said, it's kind of very much like a priesthood, almost a doctor,

Concetta Bertoldi 36:08
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 36:08
Because you and I both were raised in the Catholic environment, and the priest was a representation of God, and they could do absolutely no wrong, right? But I don't know if you've heard it or not, but the Catholic Church has had a little bit of a rough in the last, you know, 50 years.

Concetta Bertoldi 36:25
I have a big issue with it. When I went to the Vatican in Rome and I saw that, I saw how much money they have and how much artifacts that they could sell just one painting, and in one painting they could feed a whole country, and yet they're begging poor people for their money. I resent. I mean, I'm sorry, but I do if they really had their heart in the right place to want to help, whether it be to feed people or medically help people sell one thing, the the amount of money they have, and they have rules that don't apply to any of us. You know, they got their own rules and regulation. They're their own country. They can do whatever they want. You know, I have a real issue with and I will tell you one thing, I have another issue with. My mother was raised sadly in a Catholic orphanage here in New Jersey, and the I didn't know when I was growing up, she didn't burden any of us with this, but I can tell you this, when I got old enough, I started to hear stories about what happened to her, and it was actually heartbreaking. This, what they did in that orphanage to the kids, what priests were capable of. So I don't get warm and fuzzy when I hear, you know, a nun or see a priest, I don't get all warm and fuzzy. I just don't

Alex Ferrari 37:46
Yeah and again, and it's not you can't paint the brush with everybody, because there's some priests I've met who are just been they're so lovely, and they want to help. And same thing with nuns, trust me, I went to Catholic school. Yeah, you know, I completely understand it. But I also went to the Vatican. And when I was at the Vatican, I was walking through the museum, and I'm like this, it was like an embarrassment of riches. There's so much popped in that they've oddly stolen from around but some of it's theirs, but a lot of it's stolen around the world, but that's museums all around the world. By the way, it's in the British Museum that's in America, you know, all that kind of stuff. But it was so much of it. And then you walk into St Peter's Basilica, and you're just like, what like, it was so much that I, I had a problem with it. And by the way, the cab driver driving a Vatican.

Concetta Bertoldi 38:41
Betsy, we think alike, you and I.

Alex Ferrari 38:44
So I was, I was driving to the Vatican in a cab, and Italian, obviously Italian driving. And he was just, we're going to the Vatican. And he's like, Oh, the Vatican. He just on loads of all the crap and the stuff that they hear, because they're there in the ground level. And they, a lot of Italians, resent the Vatican because of the power they have in missing children that happened, that they just lost. This is all public this is all public knowledge. So with all of that said, Concetta, we've been kind of going down this, this religious, this religious path, what you obviously we and we've hinted about this a little bit. It has changed in your lifetime, in my lifetime, you know, and we'll use the Catholic Church, because that's both what you and I grew up with. When I grew up, the Catholic church could do no wrong. It was infallible. That's what they're that's what they teach you. That's indoctrination that they give you when you growing up. But obviously so much has come out since then that there's cracks in the foundation, there's cracks in the wall, that you can start seeing it all. Where do you see religion and what part is religion play in the next 10 years, 50 years, 100 years of humanity. Because I feel that people are going away from religion and starting. Go back into what Christ actually talked about, which is the kingdom of heaven. Is within you what I can do, you can do and more.

Concetta Bertoldi 40:08
Well, boy, this is deep, but I'm gonna, I would say, about 15 years ago, I was in Mexico City working, and I was doing an interview for a television show, one or the other, a magazine, whatever. And I remember I heard that they told the other side, told me there was somebody coming to this side or no, they said the person was already born, but this person was going to grow to be an amazing person to show faith, or bring God back into the picture, whatever. I just remember not knowing how to explain whatever the person was here to do, and I and I remember, I couldn't back it up, but I knew I heard it, and I knew that they said the person was already born and that we were going to hear from this person. And believe me, I was just as amazed as even when I was saying it, because I I couldn't imagine what they were talking about. And then suddenly I real, because this was about maybe 15 years ago, maybe a little more. I remember when I realized who it was, and I said, Oh, my God, because the description was exactly who it was, and it was Charlie Kirk and I, and I knew I knew when I heard about him and what happened, but it was also when I had done this in Mexico City. He had already been born, but was a little boy. He grew up to be what he was now, whatever his whatever his belief, religion, whatever you want to call it, because I'm sure he believed in Christianity. The point is that he was preaching that God is real. The bottom line is that he said God is real, and we belong to one another, and we owe it to one another try harder and to find peace from one another. I mean, I'm not here to add, you know, I don't want to be an advocate one way or another. I'm simply saying that I believe that he had good intentions and that

Alex Ferrari 42:17
I don't disagree with I think everybody in one way, shape or form. Some people have not every kind of not everybody. I was about to say that not everyone has good intentions, but I think that the story that they tell themselves is that they're doing good work, you know, because you have to, in other words, you can't be the villain in the story, right? It's hard to go to sleep if you think you're the bad guy. Darth Vader was saying, Hey, I just want the universe to be, you know, ordered, without this chaos So, and that's so I get that. So regardless of his political leanings, and he was definitely a lightning rod of a character, he was definitely a lightning rod of a person,

Concetta Bertoldi 42:55
Amazing force.

Alex Ferrari 42:57
But I and he was a force, and that's not deniable. He was a force. But I agree with what you're saying that it might have not been everyone's version of a God, right? It might have not been everyone's flavor of how that message was presented, but he was in his way, on his path, saying, Hey guys, God is real.

Concetta Bertoldi 43:16
Well, let me get back to what you originally asked. Though you said, Where do I see this going? And I want to answer that, because

Alex Ferrari 43:23
The religion in general, just

Concetta Bertoldi 43:25
The religion going, I think there's a lot of catalysts, and he was one of them, but there's other catalysts, because I think that maybe not in the next 1020, 30 years, but eventually on Earth, I believe that we're all going to come to, even though it's hard to imagine right now, we're all going to come to a point where God, the universe, the energy, the spiritual energy, that has created us, that we're all going to come to a conclusion that we all belong to the same one.

Alex Ferrari 44:04
God,

Concetta Bertoldi 44:05
I really believe that I totally would just like I believe this as well, eventually. And as I said, I can't tell you 10, 20, 30 years could be 100 years, but I do believe that eventually we're all going to be the same color too. I don't think there's going to be white, brown, or whatever colors there are. And

Alex Ferrari 44:28
You're talking about, you're talking generally, 1000s. Yeah,

Concetta Bertoldi 44:33
That we're not going to be all different the way we we're going to be different individuals, but I believe we're going to all be there's going to be hard to tell the difference of what ethnic background you come from,

Alex Ferrari 44:46
What I think, what you're trying to say, if

Concetta Bertoldi 44:49
Merging constantly merging,

Alex Ferrari 44:51
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. I feel, I feel like what you're saying, at least the way I'm interpreting it is that we are going back to the idea Well, first of all. Greatest lie that was ever portrayed on humanity is that we are separate.

Concetta Bertoldi 45:03
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 45:03
That's the first largest, biggest lie ever

Concetta Bertoldi 45:06
Separate. But, you know,

Alex Ferrari 45:07
No, no, but separate meaning that we're not all one,

Concetta Bertoldi 45:10
Right!

Alex Ferrari 45:10
That we're not all connected to source to die. And that's one of the biggest lie that's ever been told. And that lie is starting to crack,

Concetta Bertoldi 45:18
Right!

Alex Ferrari 45:18
And as we move forward, that will start to be people. People will look back at this time the same way we look back at Rome and go, Oh God, the barbarians. There was, there was the Coliseum. They were killing these people. That's how we will be looked upon.

Concetta Bertoldi 45:33
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 45:34
500, 100 years from now, 500 years from 1000 years from now, they will look back at us like we were. We were not savages, but not too far away,

Concetta Bertoldi 45:43
Barbarians,

Alex Ferrari 45:44
Barbarians.

Concetta Bertoldi 45:45
Yeah, I always say, I I feel that sometimes, when we look at our lives and we think about when the hard times were in our lives, you know, you sit back and you think to yourself, those were really hard times. But it's amazing because more time that goes by. You think about them as the best times of your life, even though they were the hard times of your life, right?

Alex Ferrari 46:07
But they are. It's hard when you're in it. It's hard when you're in it.

Concetta Bertoldi 46:11
Oh. And I understand there are some things that still are hard to face or, you know, to reckon with, but I know myself when I look back in my life and I think about times that I thought, Oh, my God, I was really strong, you know, and I really had people and things that were making me feel lonely or left out, or blah, blah blah or disappointed. I look back at them now and I say, Oh, it was such stuff I learned from all that, and it really wasn't such a hard time, because what came out of it is what I am today, and I'm pleased with that.

Alex Ferrari 46:42
Think that's the thing that people, I think as you get older, you start to look back at your life and you start seeing these audience that that are some of the breakup, the job loss, the career not going to where you wanted to go.

Concetta Bertoldi 46:55
Love lost somebody. They got away. Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 46:59
Or, thank God they got away. Yeah, like, Good Lord, I'm glad that she left me at the altar. No one left me at the altar. Everyone, please no, no comments, but just as a, as a, as a statement, because you look back and you go, I wouldn't be who I am. People always ask me that, like, would you change anything? I go, I might have bought apple at $3 but other than that, but, you know, you know, maybe bought a couple Bitcoin back in the day, but other than that, um,

Concetta Bertoldi 47:28
I know now, but it's

Alex Ferrari 47:29
Exactly

Concetta Bertoldi 47:30
In honey, you know what I mean, darling, it's really all part of our evolution. And I'm sure 100 years ago, the people that were living on alive on earth, then would have never imagined what we're at, where we're at today, and what we're doing today, what we're saying today, what we're seeing today. It's evolution, and we can't stop it. It's just going to continue to evolve.

Alex Ferrari 47:54
You know that it's interesting. I've been thinking about this lately, about this, but, and maybe it's because I'm getting older and, you know, I'm thinking a lot more about these kind of things. But you know, as we're being as we're growing up, and we're going through generation after generation after generation, like I just And please don't laugh at me when I say this to you. But I just realized that I've lived through six decades, six. I know you see these. You laugh at me, sorry, but I know, but I just did the math. I go, Wait a minute. I I've lived through six decades. Not I'm not 60, but I've lived through three, six different decades. So I've experienced three different, six different times in human history that are just segments and how it's evolved, and the way I was raised, the way I've experienced life, sets me up in a certain way that, you know, 50 years from now, I'm not sure how I mean, I think I'll probably roll with the punches and I'll probably evolve. But there are people who can't or don't want to let go of it, and I feel, I feel empathy for them, because they just, they're like, I want it, I want it to be. And I think that's one of the biggest problems in the world today, is that people are trying to hold on to what it was, and not embracing what this is going to be, and trying to fight that because it's going to be what it's going to AI is going to be, whatever AI is going to be. The Internet, when it came out, people were terrified. It's in the world, and now we look at us now, you know it's

Concetta Bertoldi 49:23
I tell people, keep an open mind. You're better off keeping an open mind. You are allowing yourself to the possibilities by keeping an open mind, right?

Alex Ferrari 49:35
Yeah, yeah. No, absolutely. Not only

Concetta Bertoldi 49:38
There are some people that just refuse to go with the flow or to grow

Alex Ferrari 49:44
Exactly.

Concetta Bertoldi 49:45
It gets stuck in what was in 1950 it's not 1950 This is 2026

Alex Ferrari 49:51
Well, we're all on it. We're all in a river, and the river is going in a certain direction right now. You can stand up and. And stand up, and now you're placed the river is still going. The river doesn't stop. But you're standing in that river now, but eventually you're going to get tired of standing, let alone trying to go back, right? It will even get more tiring going back. So what will happen? You will eventually get tired, lay down, and the river is going to take you.

Concetta Bertoldi 50:22
I know

Alex Ferrari 50:23
You know what I mean?

Concetta Bertoldi 50:25
And it's not easy, because the technology and everything's changing so much, and you have to really stay on top of it to keep growing. I always say I want to, I want to rent a kid just to live with me, to tell me how to work my technology, because how much that changes, too, right?

Alex Ferrari 50:42
I mean, it's changing. It's changing almost weekly at this point, like,

Concetta Bertoldi 50:47
Imagine where we're going to be. I mean, think about that one.

Alex Ferrari 50:50
So let me ask you this concha, from your point of view, speaking to the other side, and just your general idea of how things are working, why do you believe everything is sped up so much because, I mean, I, when I was born, I was the remote control for my grandfather,

Concetta Bertoldi 51:05
Right!

Alex Ferrari 51:05
And from that point of having three channels and holding the antenna to, you know, and I was born in the 70s, so, you know, you have a different perspective. So you even have a farther back perspective, but, but the point is that I, in just my life, I've seen things exponentially speed up from like, oh we have beepers, oh we have phones, oh we have the internet, oh we have social media, and now AI is changing. I mean, monthly there's a brand new model, a brand new that it's so fast that I'm like, trying to catch up myself.

Concetta Bertoldi 51:36
I want to disagree with you here. I don't tell me. I don't think it's sped up at all. I think it's it. I think it's moving at the same pace it always has. And I think the things that are changing, I think if you had been alive in two night, 2010 or 2020 and you were living at that time, and the things that were happening to those folks who lived on earth at that time were probably saying the same thing you're saying right now.

Alex Ferrari 52:07
It's all about perspective.

Concetta Bertoldi 52:08
Well, moving, so everything's changed.

Alex Ferrari 52:10
Oh yeah, when the Model T came out, they probably said the same thing.

Concetta Bertoldi 52:12
They were like in shock, you know? So I just think it's all

Alex Ferrari 52:16
Fair enough.

Concetta Bertoldi 52:17
I don't think it's sped up. I think that we are moving at the same pace, and that's why. And I I say the same thing because I planned a birthday party for my husband, and that was six months ago, and it's already next week, and I'm saying I remember I had so much to do in the six months before this, and it feels like I just went and here it is.

Alex Ferrari 52:40
So time does seem to be speeding up. Maybe not,

Concetta Bertoldi 52:44
But it's not,

Alex Ferrari 52:45
I know, but it feels that way. It does it?

Concetta Bertoldi 52:47
It feels that way, yes, and it feels that way for, I think you might be thinking that because it feels that way, because we're getting so much information so much quicker than we, yeah,

Alex Ferrari 53:00
Yeah.

Concetta Bertoldi 53:01
You know, we, like, 20 years ago, we were, we were limited. First of all, computers gave us, gives us so much information, you know, and so much other other things as well. But before that, we had to wait for it to come on TV. Me home from work at six o'clock at night,

Alex Ferrari 53:18
Or a newspaper, or a newspaper

Concetta Bertoldi 53:20
Constantly given us so much information so fast that it feels like that. But I don't think it really is changed in terms of speed. It's just we have more access to getting quicker, Quicker, quicker. You know,

Alex Ferrari 53:34
Concetta, if someone since all these things are happening around the world, and this time is a pretty unsettling time right now that we're going through. For people who are really afraid out there, what advice do you have for them on how to deal with this?

Concetta Bertoldi 53:48
That's so it's so true. I love that question, baby, and the reason I like it is because I'm one of them. I suffer from anxieties and panic attacks. I have done a lot of work on this and looked into very deeply causes and different cures, if you will. And I know for myself it has a lot to do with past lives that I've lived. I know I've been here many times. We all have, but there are some that have been here even more times. But anyway, what do I tell those people, there is help you don't have to suffer, and it doesn't have to be through alcohol or medication. I know it's hard to believe that something so simple could help you when you're frightened or in worried, but what i They're one of my favorites, is because I have a tendency at night when the sun goes down because I don't sleep well, because the dead are always even no I could tell you stories, really. But anyway, so if I go to sleep, the dead are always trying to interrupt my sleep, or interrupt me, because my subconscious heightens in my conscious mind is trying to rest. Right? So what happens sometimes is I start to panic. If I start thinking about something I have to do, or I'm worried about something, I'll give you an example so you can understand. I had skin cancer on my head, and that was a horrible experience, and it was going through that anybody who's ever had to go through most surgery, it's, it's, it's grueling. And when I had it, I never had it before. So it was doubly impactful, because I was so thinking, oh my god, I had this scar that went across here. And so I give that example, because I found another spot, and I thought that it was that. And I said, you know, skin cancer. So of course, when you're distracted during the day, you think about it, but you have distraction, so it doesn't get as worrisome. But when you go to bed at night and you're all alone, and now you start thinking about the same thing, it becomes doubly impactful. Now you run it through your head. I'm worried, what if it is I got to go through that again and oh, God, now I have to make the appointment. And if, God forbid, it's that, then I got to make that appointment. So you get wrapped up in a panic of anxiety. What I find there's two things that really helped me. I don't care what your religion is, but find something that you believe in, in your faith, and a person in your face, all right? I also am very friendly with some Indian people. When my husband built an Indian temple, it's beautiful. The person they worship is Sai Baba. And Sai Baba is like a saint, okay, so if you're I'll give you this example. If you're Indian, you might realize I mean refer to Sai Baba, and pray, Sai Baba, I need your help. Please help me and and bring anything into it that you can in that religion, I would say, God, hear my prayer. Help me to please relax, fill my body with the Holy Spirit. Mary, Mother of God, wrap your arms around me. Let me feel your energy of peace. Please help me in the name of God, hear my prayer. That's what I would do. Now, if you're still panicking, even after that, then I call this change the channel. What that means is, if you're so completely taken away by your anxiety, stop what your anxiety is, what's causing your anxiety? By changing the channel, get out of bed, or if you're not in bed, you're somewhere else, do something that you like doing. Me, I'll get out of bed. I'll go clean out my closet. I have a goodwill bag. I'll go in and figure out, what else do I need? What else can I donate? And I start filling a pot pit, making a pile. Before you know it. You're so focused on did I wear that? Did I do that? Do I need that? And you're so focused on it, you're not thinking about that anymore. And then your mind tends to relax because the prayer takes over. And that's what helps me. I start to relax from focusing on something else that I find important and that I want to do, and the prayer starts kicking in that my mind is starting to have the effect of the energy of who I called upon to help me to relax, and then finally, I can go to bed and take care or whatever it is I was worried about the next day.

Alex Ferrari 58:10
Beautiful answer. Beautiful answer.

Concetta Bertoldi 58:12
Oh, thank you.

Alex Ferrari 58:13
So Concetta, where can people find more more about more about you and the amazing work that you do in the world?

Concetta Bertoldi 58:20
I love you so much, Alex, you're such a beautiful man. Thank you for that, my friends. All they have to do is Google my name in all my books should pop up. My shows, if you go to my website, they pop up. I'm easy to find. I'm on Instagram, I'm on Facebook, I'm easy to find, but I'm so grateful to you. You're such a good man, and I really want to meet you in person. So while I hope we can work it out somehow, that I can come sit across from you and have interview, I would love to do that.

Alex Ferrari 58:52
Oh, that would be amazing. And we have good barbecue down here. So

Concetta Bertoldi 58:57
If they evolve in our world, and they start changing everything so that we're all closer together and more apt to accept each other. Let's just not get rid of Italian food.

Alex Ferrari 59:08
I mean, look

Concetta Bertoldi 59:09
Let it stay the same

Alex Ferrari 59:11
Look, I gotta tell you. I mean, before we go, I went to Italy, and this few years ago, first time went to Italy, started in Napoli, then went up to the Amalfi to Sorrento. Went to Sorrento. Sorrento went to the Amalfi Coast, then went to Rome, and then went to Florence. Flew to Florence and I. We ate so much.

Concetta Bertoldi 59:38
You can't get a bad meal

Alex Ferrari 59:40
Every 15 feet there's a gelato place. I'm not exaggerating.

Concetta Bertoldi 59:46
I know

Alex Ferrari 59:47
Every 15 feet there's a gelato place, there's a pizza joint, there's

Concetta Bertoldi 59:52
A five star meal and a great bottle of wine.

Alex Ferrari 59:55
I was in Amalfi, actually, the town of Amalfi, and I. I went in and there was a bakery there, or, yeah, a bakery from 1870 it had been the exact same thing. It's been a bakery this entire time. That one walk in and it's the most beautiful. There was literally chocolate flowing from the walls. That's not an exaggerated there was a waterfall of chocolate. And I'm just like, what is happening? How it how are these people alive? They eat so they eat so much and so beautifully. But the food is different. It's food is very different. And there's so much love there.

Concetta Bertoldi 1:00:30
I know exactly what you are talking about.

Alex Ferrari 1:00:32
I adored, I adored the trip, and I got to, I don't know if I told you this, but I actually got to go into the, not the caverns, but the crypt, where all the I went to the crypt, the catacombs, yeah, I went into the catacombs of the Vatican. And I went to where all the priests were, the priest popes, with all the Popes.

Concetta Bertoldi 1:00:55
Oh, wow.

Alex Ferrari 1:00:56
And I just happened to be open that day, and we just walked in, and I turned, I turned to a left, and I looked over, and there was everything's white. It was a white marble, everything, like all the coffins, everything, all the Crips, everything's white. But there's one room that had a glass and partition, and it was full of color, and it was wood and art and all that. And the energy that I felt from there was very different. And I turned to one of the people that worked there. I go, what? Who's in there? And they go, Well, that's Peter. I go, Peter, Peter. He goes, Yes, that's why we Yeah, no, Peter the apostle.

Concetta Bertoldi 1:01:34
When I was there, wow.

Alex Ferrari 1:01:36
So I actually was down there, and it's not open all the time. It just happened. I was just walking by, and the guy's like, Would you like to come downstairs? I'm like, Okay, I mean, it was, it was the craziest experience, but I felt the energy there. It was just such a Whoa,

Concetta Bertoldi 1:01:52
Wonderful.

Alex Ferrari 1:01:53
That was powerful. Oh, it's beautiful. So there's, you see, that's the thing that a lot of these, these institutions, do have a lot of beauty in them. Yes, all of them, all cultures, all religions, have beauties. And I was in Spain, and I went into a mosque, and it was the most beautiful, one of the most beautiful buildings I've ever been in.

Concetta Bertoldi 1:02:13
I go to the Indian temple. I wear Indian clothes because I enjoy it anyway. I wear my little thing that says I do and I love it. I love the women there, and they make food, and I love Indian food. So it all works for me

Alex Ferrari 1:02:27
Concetta before, before we finish off, is there any final words you want to give leave to the audience?

Concetta Bertoldi 1:02:32
So I want to tell you mangiare e ingrassare
, what it means is eat and get fat.

Alex Ferrari 1:02:37
And with that, my dear, I appreciate you so much, and everything you help, everything you do in your work and in your life to help awaken this planet. So thank you,

Concetta Bertoldi 1:02:48
Darling may God bless you and your family always.