AKASHIC RECORDS Predict SOLAR FLARES Coming & Will TRIGGER Humanity’s GREAT SHIFT! with Bonni McCliss

Bonni McCliss 0:00
The sun is having seizures. It's having an existential crisis. And so when you get into that solar maximum, it's just building and building and building. It's a piece of the puzzle. It's not everything really taking this next level in your soul development. It's loaded in our DNA that we wake up and we have the lucidity in the dream that we're more aware than ever before, and I think part of nature's plan back to this idea of the avataric state. There are people who are channeling higher worlds.

Alex Ferrari 0:29
I'd like to welcome back to the show, returning champion Bonni McCliss, how you doing Bonni?

Bonni McCliss 0:43
Good to be here. Thank you for having me back.

Alex Ferrari 0:45
Thank you so much for coming on the show again, you know. And thank you for making the trek down to Next Level Soul Studio.

Bonni McCliss 0:50
Yeah it's so cool. It's beautiful studio.

Alex Ferrari 0:52
Thank you so much. I appreciate that our last conversation hit a chord almost a million views.

Bonni McCliss 0:59
It's hard not to hit a chord. We had that, that we had the Eclipse going on. Man, I think everybody was just thirsty.

Alex Ferrari 1:06
Very everybody was, everybody was thirsty, but people really enjoyed our conversation. So you have to come back. Yeah, come back, yeah. So, so if you could tell everybody who has not seen the first episode what you do and how you do it?

Bonni McCliss 1:24
Yes. So typically I'm referred to as an Akashic channel psychic medium. I know that's like a mouthful, and I go into altered states, and it's pretty normal looking altered states, you know, to receive information from the Akashic field on the behalf of an individual, and then in teaching in groups. So just trying to get us through this epoch, it's an intense one,

Alex Ferrari 1:47
Right! And the and you also do kind of like almost humanity readings as well, like a future of humanity,

Bonni McCliss 1:53
Yes, yeah, ever since I was a little girl, just feeling, I wouldn't say more like specifics, you know, but more of the the temperature or the astronomy or how the magnetics of Earth is going to change? Yeah, that's always been on my radar.

Alex Ferrari 2:09
And we were talking earlier. You've been doing this long enough that you remember when everyone thought you were a freak, as we all everybody in this space, yeah? Like, everyone's like, Oh my God. What do you do? Like, and that goes for any psychics, not you specifically, but any psychic, any channel, 10 years ago,20 years ago,

Bonni McCliss 2:26
Yeah, yeah, even just like five years ago was still, it was still very taboo and strange. And I moved and started in a small town. When I set up my practice, and they had just run the last psychic out of out of town, they took her to court for witchcraft. No, you they did.

Alex Ferrari 2:42
What year was this?

Bonni McCliss 2:43
This? What year was this? I think this was about, oh my gosh, like a decade and a half or more. I don't know, but it was the early 2000s Yeah, yeah. But still, still ran her out. And I was cautioned when I was coming in wanting to open up my own office and practice, you know, I wouldn't do that if I were you. We just had, we just, you know, we just had a problem with the last one, and I was just really confused. You know, I've been in this world so long, it still takes me a minute to remember that this is, this is this is an oddity to some people. So I just marched in and said, you know, you can look right into my eyes, and if you really think I'm not attempting to connect to all that is love and light and God, then you can just tell me, but, or forever hold your silence about it. So, so it was, I have great feedback, but, yeah, it's turned around a lot, and you want to run out of town. I was not, I mean, I was just open doors. I guess I think, I think I was called to that town at that time. They needed it. They needed it. They needed it. And I opened up. It was a tiny town, and there was no one to talk to about this stuff, right? There were the old books. The OGS had all of Sylvia Brown's books. I went to go see her in North Hollywood, you know, trying to figure this stuff out. But, you know, I was kind of alone. And when I talked to my mentor, which was my therapist at the time, she said, Bonnie, you're going to have to start it, because it just doesn't exist. And so that's what I did in that tiny town. And in a little back room, it was just me and two other people the psychic meetup. And it was a paranormal guy and, you know, a mom, and we had great conversations like a year, and you know, as the months clicked on, we got up to 10 people, which was really big for us, a group of all the weirdos, all the weirdos. And then by the time I let it go, we were up to a couple 100 strong, and had to rent out the parks conference centers.

Alex Ferrari 4:38
So let me ask you for in that kind of environment, because I'm thinking like, Footloose Kevin Bacon, kind of, you know, from the 80s kind of town, yeah, maybe not. John Lithgow was the preacher, because you would have been run out for sure. What do you why do you think that there was such a shift just in that little microcosm of. Humanity, where, 10 years earlier, they ran a psychic out of town, for sure, and then when you show up, then they're open to it. And I know that it could have been different perspective, different ways of doing it, but you know, if they run out of psychic, they're gonna run out. And even if it's a different flavor, and there was, there seems to be a lot more openness to what you that you were doing, why? What do you think happened?

Bonni McCliss 5:22
I think that whether they knew it or not, I was some kind of bridge between the worlds. You know, if people say, Who do you channel? Who do you connect to? Even though I'm a practicing Buddhist, I always just see the light of Christ, or Christ consciousness, or Jesus. So I think that Christian people, or religious people, are already attuned to that, or seeking that. So I think that the energy of whatever I was channeling and bringing at the time, again, unbeknownst to them, I think they felt a resonance of truth. I think that they felt the intentionality. That's what I'm hoping so they would come in kind of scared, come through the back door. I would have people come to the back door and just, you know, kind of like prohibition of psychics, you know, and get in there, and I would hold their hands and just open my heart and, you know, just call in God. And I know that they felt that. So I think it was the power of the energy that opened those doors. And before long, I was on the local front, you know, of the newspaper. So it was just, it was a miracle, and the timing, and of course, you had that shift coming into the early 2000s and then the 2012 you know, this is, you know, this great predicted shift for humanity. And I think all of us light workers are exactly in the geography, in the area that were meant to be and to do for sure. Yeah, it's phenomenal to be placed in such a juxtaposition, actually, and to see what's possible. It's not like you're around your tribe or your people, you're, you know, you're trying to shine light at Walmart. I mean, it's, it's, it's complicated. It's like, literally, spiritual training. Yeah, yeah.

Alex Ferrari 7:01
And it seems that that we, all you know, are born in this time, and we're all kind of, we all asked to be here, this, this, this time period, because apparently this is the most exciting time to see this massive shift. It's not going to be a fun particularly time, because, as with all transformation, it does take obstacles and overcoming obstacles and things like that, but, but we apparently chose this time period to be here, to be born, when we were born, and to mature at the point where we are needed to do the work that we're doing spot on. And it's, it's very interesting. I, I too with, with this show. You know, I said I'm not a channel or anything like that. I'm not near death experience, but because of the work I do, I'm, I mean, I'm in your camp. I've been thrown into your camp. Yeah, you know, I've been adopted, yes, you know, into the into the weirdo camp, purely because I talked to weirdos, apparently, and the most lovely weirdos. And I say that with all the love in the world. Oh, I see it such a compliment. I mean, we're in Austin, and they have t shirts at the airport that say, Keep Austin weird. So I say that, with all the love in the world, Oh, yeah. And it's such a but it's, but it's fascinating to see, even in my, my little microcosm of people, that, yeah, when I started the show, and it started to get bigger and bigger, I lost friends, and that's fine, because you lose people who just can't, can't grab on to what's going on. I have other friends who are still with me, and they still can't grab that's fair. And they actually, you know, they're like, So Alex, what is this after? How do you prove they there's an afterlife? Tell me, because he's atheist. How do you prove there's enough? I'm like, I can't prove it. But I've spoken to not only a lot of spiritual mystics and things like that. But we've also had neuroscientists from Harvard and and, you know, all these kind of doctors and, you know, credential, official, official people, and they, like, ask BS, and I'm like, Cool, how you doing? So

Bonni McCliss 8:54
Again, it's, I think, I think it's that liminal space. I think it's that, that space of, you know, you know, we term it as faith, that miracles happen. I don't think that you can have the same contact in that concretized knowledge or that, I'm sure, you know, even, even people who channel are still, I mean, it's a wide open space. They're like, I'm really not sure how far this can go, or how far reaching it can be, but I think you know, when you have people that really want to see the signs or the miracles, you know, my best advice to them is you're going to have to play in that liminal space.

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Bonni McCliss 10:25
You know, you're going to have to reach a little bit, you know, have that poetic mind, because it's, it's just not going to come in the form of hard science. Most likely, I don't think it is. I mean, it's going to draw you into, into two worlds at once.

Alex Ferrari 10:38
But there, but there is, there is starting to Oh, for sure. There is, yes, there's, there's hints in science, yes, you know, yeah. There's a film that dere Lanka, who channels Bashar, yeah. They put his, they put his brain under the I, what they called it, that cap that they put on to check his brainwaves, yeah, when he channeled, something happened. Yeah, and he was able to do things in the brain that you're actually not supposed to be able to do absolutely. There's a certain there was one level that's like human beings, when they hit this level in their brain, they never, it never goes up in age, it only goes down. So you basically top off at whatever. That's amazing. And when he channels, he he goes up. So that's not supposed to happen. And that's a sign. So there's something there.

Bonni McCliss 11:22
Thank God for the something, or we'd still be back where we were.

Alex Ferrari 11:25
Well, maybe the meditation was weird. It was weird as hell, 20 30, years ago. Yes, it was, yeah, just meditation. What do you monk somewhere? Yeah, in a Himalayan cave or something like that. And now it's one of the most researched things ever. It's just the health benefits and what it does. So if we were on about that 20 30, years ago, where do you think in 20 30 years we're gonna see about what you do channeling or a psychic medium phenomenon, which, again, there's been a lot of research. So government had government programs around. They definitely did.

Bonni McCliss 11:57
They definitely did. I think, I think as far as, like our science in the looking at the shifts of our biology, absolutely that's going to progress. Will we ever be able to lay out and write a book on how the other side is formed? I don't know better lifetime, not in our lifetime, but I think, I think it's the grit and the grip and the the obstructions that create that spiritual strength, that allow us to kind of take do what it takes to transcend this world. It's hard work. I mean, it's not again. It's not a passive thing, you know, when you're met, if you're a meditator out there, you know, it takes grueling discipline sometimes to get into that sweet spot, you know. And I'm finding, you know, it's a really scary time for people to let go of their walls or their boundaries. So I don't know I think, I think we're going to make wild advancements, but in some ways, I think that mental health and the pressures that are on our nervous system both environmental and social in a social setting, I think those are going to intensify, so at the end of even this decade, I don't know how we can quantify, you know, levels of advancement, but what I do know is we have to keep trying.

Alex Ferrari 13:10
And there is, and there's no question that we are advancing. I mean, it's not pretty, but we are. We are we are advancing. Yeah, now you mentioned the Akashic records. Now you and I both understand what the Akashic records are, but can you explain to someone who just for the first just for the first time is listening what the Akashic records are?

Bonni McCliss 13:27
Yeah, the Akashic records, it's come so far now that it's in mainstream. I mean people, when I would bring it up, you know, 1015, years ago, I literally would hear people go, you mean that cereal? That's not the same thing. So when you talk about, hey, channeling, serial, how we've advanced, and even like the terminology that we're using. So the Akashic word and philosophy has been around for 1000s of years, and really what it breaks down to is this ether system, this Ethernet or indrasnet, that's all around us. And some people believe it's this, you know, book, far out in the cosmos, which it's not, not that. But that's not the only point of access. It's, it's in every sentient place. It's on every level of consciousness. But I think when people are thinking about Akashic records, what they're really after is the highest minded approach and perspective of their life and what they're here to do. So to me, it's just a living field of consciousness, and you just like you're typing something into a search engine. Depending on your intention, you can drive your consciousness, your receptivity, your experience or knowledge or will anywhere you want to go. It literally, is the etheric Google.

Alex Ferrari 14:45
Yeah, I was, I was hearing it from, I've heard this from many near death experiencers that they're able to, once they're on the other side, to basically download the entire anything they want to know. It's instant and instant understanding in a way that. We can't quantify with words, right? Or the knowledge or the processing power of our own brains. Yes, it's at a different level. It's like, I always use this terminology, it's like a floppy disk versus a quantum computer. There you go. It's two very different I mean, they're both same information, right? But they're transferred at a completely different frequency and level that one can understand so much more, and the other one's so limited, and you can't take that and jam it into

Bonni McCliss 15:31
No you can't. And I think one of the main aspects of the Akashic realm is that there's no time. So although it's widely known as this archive of past lives. And it is that, but it's also future lives. It's different timelines. It's the multiverse, really. So when you're tuning into an Akashic records system, especially on a very high dimension of it, and you take time out, I mean, you're one with life as it ever has been, is or ever will be. And so it has this return to light, return to our truth. And I think that that is what people experience when they have a near death, just what you're describing, just this amazing return to truth, to to God. Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 16:13
But this instant understanding of things is pretty, pretty remarkable. Now you said something very interesting. You said past lives, future lives and multiple parallel lives. Now this is where our brain starts to hurt because, because our parallel realities could go on infinitely. Yeah, in this it's just in this one life, every major decision can spawn off a new timeline. Sure, and we do it as humanity as well. We all choose that there might, there's a reality that JFK was not assassinated. There was a, you know, a reality there was no Genghis Khan. Yes. You know, these kind of realities. And they, they go off and they play, play themselves out. So I always say it's like, yeah, you know what, if I would have married Jenny, you know what, if I would have married Bob in high school? Like, what would my life be? And we all have those, yes, yeah, what if I didn't break up with that guy? He turned into a doctor, and I see his family on Facebook and and now I'm jealous or something like that, right? So that is so how do we quantify the idea of not only no that our past lives are there, but our present lives, there are multiple realities of each of those lives, but then also our future lives as well. Because, and I understand from my understanding is there is no time, yeah, and everything's happening all at once, all at once. And we're all different fractals of a higher oversoul, if you will, that's experiencing. And then we're a fractal of God. The soul is a fractal of God in general, or a source, and we're just experiencing all of this at the same time. And if something happens in a past life, quote, unquote, or a future life, it ripples across. It does time. As far as lessons you have to learn, things like that does anything I just said makes sense?

Bonni McCliss 18:01
Oh, it's, oh, it, oh, well, no, yes, all of it, it does. And it doesn't, right? It's, it starts to be where your mind goes. No, I've reached the the end of the disc. I think, I think it's in your approach to how you begin to even think, to understand such a thing, and especially if you want to experience more of who you have been, are or could be. And that's what it is. It's these kind of presence of the self and evolution of being, right, whether you look at that individually or collectively. But you want to approach it from a non binary state, meaning, this is the good life that I chose, and this is the bad life you know you you're experiencing one thing from a fractal of different places in observation, which is really, really interesting. And as far as like past lives go, I don't know if you've ever had deja vu. Alex, yeah, and you're like that. That's happened to me before, but with just a little bit of a different kind of experience. And I think it leads us back to understanding how powerful we are in what we think, in what we do and in the decisions that we make, even down to the little fleeting thought creates a fractal or a shift in consciousness that just keeps going on for infinite layers. The way that I've found a way to surface, though, is to because we are having this experience where past lives and all of those memories and all of our future lives, they're kind of coming into the here and now. I don't know if you're feeling that, but you're kind of like all that you've been or at least

Alex Ferrari 19:27
A lot of stuff more if you're, if you're sensitive to it, yeah, if you're, if you're, if you're getting to that place of evolution in your own soul and your own frequencies going to a certain level. It definitely is. I mean, there's, yeah, people that are completely don't feel anything, because they're not there. And that's not part of their journey in this life, absolutely. But there are, you know, like, I feel a tremendous amount of stuff happening, being around people like yourself all the time, talking around you, sure, all the time. There's that energy. There's that these conversations. And now in studio, it's different than zoom. So you, you really feel the energy difference. And I, I feel a lot of stuff going

Bonni McCliss 20:08
I do, and I think, I think that's definitely unanimous, like, we feel the stuff, but what's going on on, and it is going to take our sensitivities, our psychic abilities, to be able to put it together, you know? So I think the best thing we can do is look for themes. You know, I see when I see my past lives, considering them past, I see a theme. I see I see where I can evolve. I see where I can open my heart. I see future lives, you know, that carry me through where I am now. And so if you can start looking at yourself as almost like a trifecta, you know, somebody that's here now, a version of yourself in the past, or somebody in the future. It's really helpful to see what theme or formula that you're working on. If that makes any sense, I teach my clients this meditation, and it's just amusing of what will feel like your imagination, although I don't believe in imagination, because it definitely contrasts the laws of energy. Everything comes from somewhere, and all of it is relevant. It's just the power of interpretation. But I tell my clients, you know, just close your eyes and begin to imagine or feel or sense a snapshot of who you've been in a past life. If you just were asked to do that, just go there in this moment and trust the first thing where your mind goes, even if it's fantastical, even if it's hard to watch, just go to that place. And you can even inquire, go to the past lives where you've had the greatest talent and capacity. Just take a snapshot of that, and then to polarize that. Go to the life where you held the most fear, pain, anger, hate, and just take a look at, almost, if it was, like a book, the bookends of your consciousness. And just tune in and experience and you know, I love your analogy of, you know, forget about the floppy drive. You know, it's like this quantum download. That's the next step to see and feel all that we've been and can be without judgment, and all of that is what it's just information.

Alex Ferrari 22:09
One thing that you mentioned that you were practicing Buddhist, which I find fascinating, because not only you're practicing Buddhist, but you're also very open to Christ consciousness and every other modality out there, and more of like transcending beyond a specific kind of Buddhism is not a religion. I think it's more of a philosophy, of course, but transcending those ideas for people listening who are in a organized philosophy and or religion. How? What advice do you have for them, where they can believe? Go to church, go to temple, whatever they do that helps them connect to God or source in their way that makes them happy, not hurting anybody else, but yet still be open. Because if they're watching this and listening to this, they're curious, yeah, they're curious about what's going on, so like giving them the permission, or how they can navigate these waters. Because I imagine if you're in a dogmatic environment, and you've been programmed, but your heart and your soul is pulling you into like, what is this channeling? What are the Akashic records? What is a near death experience that doesn't go along with the dogma? They feel guilty, they feel scared, they feel fearful. What advice do you have for them?

Bonni McCliss 23:30
Absolutely, I think the advice I would give what I've learned from Buddhism, actually, if I take it back even further than that, growing up in the deserts of Nevada, in strange lands, experiencing all kinds of level of mystery out there, and then coming into this world and considered, you know, early on, my parents thought I was schizophrenic. I was institutionalized for a little while because of it. So I, you know, it's been a very treacherous road, and from there, I was placed into a Christian cult. So I've had this appetizer platter of all of the extremes. I think that's part of my journey in my teaching. But it wasn't until I found Buddhism I found, I found a way to walk. So you know, it really is. They call it themselves, the middle way, the middle path. And it absolutely is, is a philosophy that can be like an like a booster pack to whatever you're doing. And what I have found in these kind of polarized points of spirituality is that obviously, in in organized religion, the thing that we're really frustrated with there is that it's so it's so shut down, and it's so disempowering. Sometimes it's walled off. Yeah, it's like in this box, and these are these rules, and you are participating in a certain level. Now, the part that they have, right, that is that is a piece to our puzzle, is the veneration, the ability to look beyond yourself into something that is bigger and omnipresence. And that is a very important piece. Now, I. If you walk all the way over to metaphysics, where I've spent most of my life, you know, learning, reading all the books, teaching, experiencing, they're free. They don't have that walled off experience. They don't have that dogma or those same rules. They're taught you are God, you know, you are the powers of the universe, and that's beautiful. But, you know, they're given the power like, that's the thing that stripped away, I think, in some organized religious sects, but they didn't, then don't have the veneration, or that parental process. You know, where do they go to lean? It's you can't. You can't hug a void. You know, the universe is not going to to to feel supportive on your darkest day. It's just not so it's and I think Buddhism helps you find deep compassion and love and connectivity, power and veneration all at the same time. In that philosophy of love and compassion to self and the other, it literally. I think it's the keys to the universe for sure.

Alex Ferrari 25:59
The one thing that I found interesting in your commentary there is that you've gone through so much trauma in regards to the institutionalized and the Christian cult, very extreme. Yeah, those are you're definitely on the extreme side of that spectrum that Buddhism gave you, structure, something to hang your hat on, something to grab, because the other structures that you were shown were not of service to you. And that was kind of like, Oh, that makes sense to me, because that's why people go and become part of a church, become part of a community, become part of a a dogmatic religion, because they they need structure. But unfortunately, sometimes, with some organized religions, those structures come with a lot of baggage, where Buddhism, Taoism, Confucianism, like there's so many of these other modalities around the world that are not, that don't come with they have their own baggage. Every all of them do. All of them do, but it's different. And if you can, and whatever works, and you gravitated to Buddhism, it could have been, for sure, it could have been Judaism. It could have been a bunch of different things you could have grabbed onto, but it just gave people structure. So I think that that's the idea of the metaphysical side is very free, but that takes a specific kind of soul, a specific type of person who is willing to kind of go with the waves where others really need just tell me where to walk, and I will walk that way, and maybe I'll dabble over here, but I just need something to hold on to. I can't be a ship at sea. I need it tied down to something that makes sense?

Bonni McCliss 27:38
It makes so much sense. And I think when it comes down to Buddhist practice. There's nowhere to hide in it, right? You know, we're running up against some things that we call spiritual bypassing, and it's not, it's not anybody's fault. It's just a thing that happens when you're very excited in your spiritual path, and sometimes you'll skip steps, or you try to beat you, we try to emulate what we see on YouTube, or we're just so excited by the path that we just want to be there already, because we're not patient. We live in the West, but in in Buddhism or Taoism, or in Confucianism, it there. You can't skip steps. It is, it is. It is a it's a perfect process and program, and it accepts you as you come. And I understand that metaphysics and religions quote, the same type of system. But there's something for me, at least I can only speak through my experience, that when I when you've led lives of trauma or experienced these unbelievable and you know, things that leave you just destroyed and pixelated as a human psyche, it is the one thing tried and true that brings you back to your core sense of being and and you can't bypass that. So you build a foundation strong enough to be able to go into the quantum hologram. Because I think if you you try to do that before you're ready, you know, it really, really shuts the door in your face, in my experience, you know, so you're it's all about cultivating the container.

Alex Ferrari 29:03
Yeah, without question, yeah. Now I have a couple questions. Well, we'll have a handful of questions that I would like to ask the Akashic records. So can you tell everybody what your process is really quickly? So you know when accessing and channeling is

Bonni McCliss 29:18
So you know, channeling is such a thank goodness that came out of the closet. Channeling such a hot topic. And I love this topic, and I think it's helpful to investigate what channeling is now, because there are many different types of channeling. There's those that go completely unconscious and allow the energies to move through which we love that

Alex Ferrari 29:38
It's very it's very theatrical. The voice is changed, like, like Sheila with Theo.

Bonni McCliss 29:43
Yeah, commands your respect.

Alex Ferrari 29:46
I'm like, what is happening?

Bonni McCliss 29:49
It's needed. We need those people to show us our capacity of becoming more than just a singular you know mind. But then there's also conscious channeling. You know, where it kind of flows in and out, or you're kind of aware of what you're saying. And there's this third type of channeling that my teachers, astral teachers, talk about, and they call it the avataric state. And you're constantly in a place of Q and A it's seamless. It feels like it's just, you know, coffee talk, you know, all the time. It's on all the time because it's about broadcasting light. And it's a it's about maintaining an energetic signal. It's beyond words, it's beyond the intellect. It's beyond, you know, any kind of knowledge base that would, that would resound on that level. It is about being a portal of light, and I'm in that third category. So sometimes people will be like, okay, Bonnie mcclus, whenever you're ready, go into channeling. And I get why, but it's always on. Now I notice, you know, my pro so, so in answering this question about how we tap into the Akashic, you know, database, it's about your state of consciousness. It's about how you are living in the mind, maybe not the brain, or living in heart, not the critical thinking. So I love to tell people, if you take me to a cocktail party and you want me to be your you know your bestie there, your wingman, and we have to talk about normal stuff, it's like I lose that avataric connection, and I can't form words, and I'm sitting over there like the biggest fuddy duddy. You do not want to take me to a cocktail party. It will be embarrassing. So I think the interesting thing, because I think there are a lot of people waking up to what they call this avataric state, or these light bearers, you'll find it's hard to just be in everyday scenarios. It's hard to be around people that are not open hearted. So yeah. So the sakashic kind of bandwidth is always on and open.

Alex Ferrari 31:50
So you just kind of come in and go out?

Bonni McCliss 31:52
Yeah, yeah. And they're very, it's very interesting. They they are clear what needs to be said at the time it needs to be set it said. And sometimes I'll hear not yet hold it.

Alex Ferrari 32:02
Oh, yeah, I've heard that. You're not ready to handle that.

Bonni McCliss 32:05
Yeah. They're like, Nope, sorry.

Alex Ferrari 32:07
Imagine if, like, in 2015 someone said, hey, you know, in five years, there's going to be a worldwide pandemic, and the entire world's going to shut down for a few months. Yeah, like, just trying to grasp around that,

Bonni McCliss 32:19
Ohh, I don't think it's I think you got to look at the bigger picture. And if everything creates a ripple in time and space, stuff really matters. I've been asked so much so, did you know that the pandemic was coming about 11 days before it hit the Western continent? I did, and that's about it.

Alex Ferrari 32:37
There was, there was talks of, there will be an event, there will be something that shifts. Yes, yeah. So that was talked about, but they couldn't say, oh, it's gonna be, it's gonna be this or that, yeah. And I'm assuming, with the line of question that I will give you for the rest of the day, for hours of our conversation, that they're gonna be, especially when it comes to humanity, that they will be broad, yes, but I've depending on the channel, depending it is. Sometimes they're specific on dates, not like on March 20 or something like that, but like in 2025 this is expected to happen. Something will happen here. But by the time 2027 happens, or 2030 happens, this will happen, and then 50 years from now, you know, and this is the scope. It's very broad, yes, kind of runway, as opposed to January 15. This is going to happen at 5:45.

Bonni McCliss 33:24
Absolutely. Because I think that, you know, it's always moving target. It's the law of energy. It's always going through transmutes free will, yeah, absolutely, which are always changing the states of energy.

Alex Ferrari 33:35
All right. So my question is, I wanted to talk about this, because it's something that a lot of people in my community has been reaching out to me about and as this solar flares, the solar flares that this is going to be the big thing, that we're going to be knocked out, like power is going to be knocked that's going to be like a major event for humanity, very similar to what we went through in 2020 but not the same. Obviously, I love to hear what this if there is a spiritual significance to these the solar flares, this year, next year, maybe for the rest of this decade, which I hear is going to be a fun decade. Yeah, you can hear the sarcasm. But what is the significance of these things?

Bonni McCliss 34:15
I'm so grateful that we are ready to talk about this. I've been wearing out my friends for for a few years now, and they're like, solar flare, what? And I'm like, oh, but it's so important. It's a piece of the puzzle. It's not everything. Of course, we are in something that, in, you know, by scientific standards, they regard as solar maximum. And that means we're about, we're heading towards a solar pole flip, which this happens about every 11 to 12 years,

Alex Ferrari 34:40
A solar pole flip. So they're the poles are shifting in the sun.

Bonni McCliss 34:43
Yes, we're right in it. So we're at that climax. The most chaotic. The sun is having seizures. It's having an existential crisis. And so when you get into that solar maximum, it's just building and building and building. And you know, there's suggestions that it, you know, it came in this summer, and it might be going on into. 2025, nobody really knows, but it's building until those poles flip. It's like it's the crowning before the baby comes in. And again, this is a natural phenomenon that has happened on Earth as long as we can remember. However it's happening now, as Earth's field, magnetic field, is very, very, very, very thin and porous, you know, we're moving into a whole different galactic seat and center. Our neighborhood is changing. The Mayans warned us about this. They said we're going to be moving from a solar center to a galactic center. In some of the Theosophical movements, they believe that we should be focusing on the Hercules solar system, that there's a secondary sun that wants to come out and be in play. So who knows. But if we look at our Sun, humans are bound to light. We are bound to light. It gives us information and code. Well, if our light source is going through a renewal, it's going through static. And I wouldn't call it confusion. I would just call it almost to me, feels like a death and a rebirth. The last thing we want to do is be led by external forces right now, right? So if the sun is having, you know, going through its crisis, and in the sun is information, right? And it's spitting out all that it's ever known or could know, but it's coming out backwards and jumbled, and we are electrical light bound human beings. Well, if you try to set your your standard or your center by anything outside of yourself, it's just a series of chaotic networks, if that makes any sense, you know. So everybody else is feeling the sun going crazy. So at this point, the best thing I can tell people, during the solar maximum and the pole flip, you have to go within. You have to find a different light source. Some people are using the crown, literally focusing on your interior light. So again, this is nothing to be scared of. This is the this is the phenomenon of nature, but it is shifting us to a massive different way of how we receive information, because I think, you know, it's also a part of this preparation to receive energy and information from our neighboring galaxy, in the androminant in the Andromeda system. So system. So, you know, we'll see.

Alex Ferrari 37:15
So then, what effect does it have on human consciousness and this great shift that we're going through right now?

Bonni McCliss 37:21
The solar the solar fires. I think really, the first thing that's, that's the biggest problem is our bodies, you know, we're not able. We're all kind of foggy right now, fatigue, yes, you know, quick to get sick. It's really lowering our immune system, which is fine. Again, this is how people evolve on earth. You know, they assimilate to all these chaotic things in the environment.

Alex Ferrari 37:42
It's been rough for me this year. Has it been six? I've been six six times, and I have children, but still, it's been a record year for me.

Bonni McCliss 37:48
It is, and I think

Alex Ferrari 37:50
Not like a sniffle. Six days out, five days out, a week out, just out.

Bonni McCliss 37:56
And if we're being honest, we're like, am I gonna live through this? This one is this? It? Is this the end? As you get older, every every time

Alex Ferrari 38:01
you like, why am I not bouncing back as much as I used to? As my kids bounce back like a day later.

Bonni McCliss 38:06
I oh my gosh, if I mean really, the people that are making the most money right now on the planet are probably the energy drink providers and source creators, the monsters. But yeah, so I think the first thing just to know again, it's it's not something to be scared of. It's something to be reverent and mindful of. Is how our bodies are having to take a knee and and recondition how we process light and information. And so you don't want to be the ultimate multitasker, and, you know, put as much on your plate as you possibly can. That is a dying paradigm, okay, the hustle mentality. The Hustle mentality is going, it will put you in the hospital. I mean, it's a really, really intense but nobody told us that to figure it out.

Alex Ferrari 38:51
I mean, that my first show was called indie film hustle. So, I mean, I get, yeah, I mean, because in that field, you got hustle, you got to work, you got to do all this stuff. But as I've got, as I've kind of transitioned into this space looking at that time like, you know, the hustle, yeah, you absolutely have to have a work ethic, and you absolutely have to do it, but there has to be a balance. And if you don't, you will burn out at any age. Oh, for sure, yeah, for sure. Balance is key. Balancing yourself is is a key, and it's a lesson I'm still learning. It's a tough lesson,

Bonni McCliss 39:24
Well, well, and I think it's for the higher, higher good, right? Because when we slow down, and this is kind of a counterintuitive thing to know, when you slow down, the slower you walk, the slower you speak, the slower you you do anything in life, the higher you move in a vibrational state, correct? Okay? And as you expand on a vibrational state, your awareness expands into your memories and to that Akashic field and capacity and part and partial, I think that's why we're starting to have flashbacks of past lives or or new talents that are coming on to the scene. So, you know, the good thing is, it's forcing us. To slow down. It's also bringing up a lot of deep, strange, emotional layers. Again, it's a purge. If we can create at light speed. Is where we're going. This is where evolution is taking us. Even, you know, the great philosopher and psychic Rudolf Steiner, said that our creation organ would, evolve into the larynx. So that's the spoken word in its almost instant manifestation. I think we're going through a purification, detox and a detox. I mean, it's as simple as that. So that's what our Sun is, you know, doing. It's pushing us into what we're capable of doing. So I really don't see it as a negative thing. It's just hard.

Alex Ferrari 40:41
Let me ask you, you mentioned the pole shifts on the sun. Does the Akashic records have anything to say in regards to the pole shifts on the earth? Because that has also it is it has happened in the past. Many say that it could have been one of the things that had the younger, driest income combination with comets here or something for the big flood and all that kind of stuff. I'm just curious. We're jumping into, like ancient mysteries a little bit here, but, yeah, but when you said, I was like, wonder if they have anything to say about and please everybody watching, the polls are not going to shift tomorrow. Don't worry. That's not going to happen, but it will be a slower process. But it is. It's still even happening to this day.

Bonni McCliss 41:21
It is, it is. And I think nothing happens overnight, right? So, there's a crescendo, there's there's a movement. You know, you're hearing a lot on the news about the the earth's core is slowing and and there are a lot of phenomenon that's happening. And the way that I understand it from my astral teachers and guides is that it's creating a very thin veil. Okay, so there's not these hard walls between levels of consciousness, or between here on Earth or the other side. You know, you're seeing things out of the corner of your eye. Your ears are ringing. There's all these tones. We're now experiencing multitude of layers of consciousness and dimensions all at once. And so when we talk about the poles and their preparation to flip, or the solar poles flipping, or the earth, you know, coming to a slow rotation, I am told this is what happened in the Egyptian dynasty. And this is preparing you to have contact with guides, to have contact with higher beings, or your soul or your higher self, in an everyday, readily way, it's giving you kind of the keys to the spiritual kingdom. So again, this is a good thing, but it's creating that very porous field. The other thing, I think is something to note here is that as all of these cosmic you know, energy and radiation comes into Earth, it's going to affect Earth's chemistry in ways that we don't understand, yet. It's mixing with the period, you know, with our chemical table, you have half life of of different chemicals kind of reinstating themselves. I think, I mean, there's this kind of ionized plume happening in Earth. Some people call it greenhouse gas. That's fine. Again, nothing to run and, you know, bury your head under a pillow, you got this or you wouldn't be here at this time. But a lot of interesting shifts on Earth to take the focus away from extreme physicality and move into the journey of the spirit and the soul.

Alex Ferrari 43:16
So from the third dimension to the fifth dimension,

Bonni McCliss 43:18
Exactly what's happening, and it's going to be a slow process.

Alex Ferrari 43:21
And from what I've heard from other mystics who've been on the show, is that there are, you know, not to go, not to put the tinfoil hat on, and I hate to put the tinfoil hat on, but, you know, just on a logical standpoint, a conversation is, there is life outside of Earth. It's not logical to believe there isn't, right? There's literally billions of Earth, like planets, let alone just planets around the universe, even in our own galaxy, which is a small one, apparently, yes, apparently, to other galaxies that we can see. So the concept of there being life on other planets is absolutely, in my opinion. Now, from other mystics who I've spoken to, they've said that there are beings who are more evolved on the consciousness level. And near death experiencers have told me this as well, where they're able to see other realms or other planets, because they in on the other side. You're like, you know, I'd like to see a more advanced civilization than us. You're there. I'd like to see a less and then boom, back to the caveman kind of environment, but the more evolved one. They said that there are, there are civilizations that are hybrids of us, meaning that when I'm not physically hybrid, but spiritually hybrid, yes, where we're able to live in the material, but not nearly as dense as us, is a very dense, yes, part of the ocean, yeah, higher up, but then also completely able to see guides and other things on the other side and incorporate that in daily life, which I know for us is very difficult to understand. Does that make sense?

Bonni McCliss 44:49
Oh, it does. It does. And I think, I think, if you think about how we're connected to Earth, you know, Earth is going through her own ascension process, right? So we're all in. This together, we're becoming less dense, and if not, to bring biblical ideas into it. But I find it's really interesting, if you get into, you know, in times, although I do not see this as any kind of rapture, I see this as a renewal. You know, they talk about how the veil is going to be very thin, how you will be able to experience avatars or saints or angels or more loved ones, more than ever before. And I think it's because the whole planetary system is moving into a whole other density and capacity. So we're all going, whether we like it or not.

Alex Ferrari 45:34
I have to, I have to say, when you said the rapture, you know the origins of the rapture, right? The 1800s the publisher, I do. It's just a publisher who's like, I need some more Bibles.

Bonni McCliss 45:44
I do. I do. I think I also it's fascinating, but I also believe that things are leaked into consciousness in weird places through different people, you know. So like, you'd be like, that was completely just bust and debunked. And you're like, Yeah, you can see how that's true. But there are certain aspects that come through every different religion or society, and you're like, there's something to that. So I think it's meant to capture everybody where they are, no matter what sector or or place.

Alex Ferrari 46:13
There's a purpose for all of it. There's a purpose that that in that information came in. Because I always say that if you know the reason we're at a place where this technology that we have now that we have, I mean, there's literally 100 150, years that we exploded in technology and consciousness, to be honest with you. I mean, in my lifetime, I think women could only vote, like within the 50s, or think or 40s, or figure out when they actually got the vote, or maybe it was a 60s I don't even remember, but that's not that long ago. You know, slavery was a thing over 100 years ago still in America. So we have evolved a lot. And I always say it's like there's a reason why Alexander the Great didn't have machine guns.

Bonni McCliss 46:55
Well, you know, if you go all the way back and talk to our ancestors, especially, love looking at what the Mayans had to say about all of this, because they were, they were so savvy in astronomy. And when we got to the end of the long calendar, 2012 they definitely coined a couple of years after. I mean, it's not one and done at 2012 you know, they talked about way into even our timeline, and a little bit going into the future, that we are moving from a solar center to a cosmic center. What could that possibly mean? My guides tell me it's we're going to be able to interact with information, technology, science, philosophy, art that we've never had any contact with before. And it kind of explains back like what you're saying 150 years ago. You know, we had, it's nothing, I think, you know, somebody told me recently, I don't know how true it is, but it kind of rings true that even 100 years ago, we take in more information in 24 hours, oh, than a person did their entire life. And so this massive shift we can't the brain can't take in for the typical human, Al Bashar aside, brain cannot take in the frequencies the literally, the electric pulsings that's hitting Earth anymore, the way that it interpreted and worked through knowledge before we have to take it in as an energetic body. So I think that's the sign of our times when the Mayans said, we're going to this kind of cosmic center, what you know, I think it's going to be a flood of of new information, which can be physical thing, but it could be very overwhelming. I definitely think we're in that overwhelming state.

Alex Ferrari 48:32
Isn't it similar to when you're channeling, when you're channeling an entity that comes in, your nervous system has to be primed. If it's not prime, you could blow a circuit. I'm assuming this is, I feel there's a lot of circuits being blown right now, because the world is a little, you know, a little wacky right now.

Bonni McCliss 48:50
It is, you know, I think this might be helpful, maybe to your viewers. When I first started channeling, it's not like they make an announcement. You just go through a lot of different, strange biological shifts, and I think that's why people are here as channels, to help the masses grow through these shifts. But when I first started channeling, before I would go into a reading, I would have crazy amounts of anxiety and my ego, my personality, my mind, my brain, would say, Oh, you shouldn't do this. You can't do this. You shouldn't do you know, get all these neurological messages stop. There's a fire. Don't do this. All this anxiety. And then I would move into the channeling for the individual. And it would literally be this bliss, this connectivity to the to the highest source. It made sense. It was simple, it was fluid, it was perfect. And then eventually, you know, we had to part ways, and my client would leave, and I would disconnect from that Omni state, and I would just be the singular person, and I would move into a strange depression, you know, what's the point of dishes and laundry? And why am I even here? You know, just kind of resentful, you know, why can't I be there, home and connected? And so this went on for a year. Years this kind of odd anxiety formula, prior to connecting and channeling and then coming out into a depression. And now I, you know, there are waves in this, in this way that I channel, but now I notice these little quivers, these little moments of electrical anomalies, you know, before I'm in extreme connection, or before I'm helping somebody on their path, and then when they leave, I feel a little homesick and a little sad. So I think, you know, that's a small, individualized experience, but I think it could really be relevant to what people are feeling as we're going into this phase change of Earth, you know, the amplification of anxiety, before they go into this kind of high oscillating, you know, vibrations around them, or this kind of returning home and feeling what's been missing, you know, their whole life. You think that that would be beautiful, but sometimes it's, it's, it's grief that sets in, or a longing or a depression. So I think those are things and topics we need to talk more about, that emotional roller coaster.

Alex Ferrari 51:01
So what advice do you have for people who are being affected by these shifts in energy, by the solar flares and other other elements that are happening on the earth that I mean, there is some stuff going on, and there is a mo like we were talking early on. Yeah, we can feel it. There's something happening in our bodies. Our immune systems are being dropped. There's there's things that are affecting us, but specifically from the solar flares, what we can do to deal emotionally with these effects?

Bonni McCliss 51:29
For sure. Yeah. So I think in Buddhism, they have this statement, this aphorism or creed, and they say non attachment, non aversion. And it means, you know, don't get hung up and attached to any one moment or particle of an emotion. Try not to adhere to it. Try not to build stories in your mind. Because, you know, it's something that could potentially come in and leave within seconds. But what happens is, we grab it and we perpetuate it, you know, and it gets harder and harder to get out of it. So the first thing that I would suggest is try not to judge yourself. There's that compassion or adhere to anything that's going on too tightly or too deeply. The other thing that we need to know is, if it's in your path, it's yours. There are no accidents. All of nature is interconnected and divine and perfect, and the moment that you're having is literally the moment that your soul is queued up for you. And so to try to avert from that, or skip out, it's fine, you can. It'll come back tomorrow, though. So in this state of allowance and allowing what's going to happen is going to happen is a lifestyle shift. You know, we don't walk around just going, it's fine. You took my parking spot and cut me off on the interstate. It's fine, you do you? So I think it's the state of mind and this cultivation of lightness of heart, literally, the path will be light heartedness, this compassion, first, always for yourself. This is hard stuff. You know you if you're here right now, you are a warrior, even your ex that you cannot stand, also a spiritual warrior, just for being on Earth right now. So slowing down, non attachment, non aversion, and really taking this next level in your soul development and trying to go within through your version of meditation every single day for survival purposes.

Alex Ferrari 53:30
So moving on to the future of humanity, not just a slight topic 2024 has been a pretty crazy year, so far as every year in this decade has been since,

Bonni McCliss 53:44
Yes, having the same conversation in a few years,

Alex Ferrari 53:48
We came in hot, yeah, we came in hot. No question, yeah. This is a also political year, which is a whole other level of stuff, which we'll get to in a little bit. But what is there any events happening this year that the Akashic records can kind of share with us, that is going to help us in our evolution in humanity's consciousness.

Bonni McCliss 54:07
Absolutely, this year represents the purge or the detox. So you know this, anything that's not really in your highest good or alignment to your truth is going to present itself to you in very creative ways, through maybe relationships, through job exchanges, you know. And again, keeping in mind, we don't want to run away from things that are hard. We just want to be present. And you know, remember that if it's there, it's ours, it's in our path. So I think this year is going to be the continuation of the purge. We've also cultivated a lot of energy, you know, if we, if we look at what Earth's comprised of, and we bring in the elements, often referred to as the tetra polar magnet, magnetic state, all of these elements are looking to align and to harmonize with one another, you know, do you think about Earth? You know, we've had the water where it. A bit of a theme overthrowing everything else. Or you have now. We have the climate issue. We have all of the heat. I think that's going to only intensify more and more and more as fire comes on stage. So I think we definitely have a an elemental harmonization looking to happen. But for the rest of 2024 we're going to have to hold the momentum that we created, whether it be momentum we've created with knowing that we're not in the right job, and we're going to start a new journey, whether it's the momentum from the political debate and race, we're going to have all of that momentum, and then everything's going to seem to be quiet and at a standstill,

Alex Ferrari 55:38
Really? Yeah, when does that happen?

Bonni McCliss 55:40
I think when we get into 2025 it'll be a lull, really. It depends on the perceiver. It depends on your perspective, generally speaking. But generally speaking, you're gonna have all of this amassed energy and shifts and readiness for the consciousness shift. And I think there's going to be an eye of the needle, a little bit of a lull. And I think depending on the perceiver, and how you look at that, it's time to prepare, reorganize and align, or it could be spooky, because we have historically built worlds and cities and societies on chaos, so we're learning to build from a whole different energy resource other than chaos. So it's that time to choose if we're going to be driven by light and purified intent, and purified intent meaning getting into your heart and really knowing your piece of the puzzle piece and how you can serve humanity as a greater whole. It's all about service. So I think it'll be a little bit of a lull after everything you know comes to a head this year.

Alex Ferrari 56:36
So is that going to be kind of like the eye of the storm?

Bonni McCliss 56:39
I think you can call the eye of the storm. They usually has, yeah,

Alex Ferrari 56:43
Been a storm, uh huh. Then there's the I lived in Florida, so I went through a few high of storms, hurricanes. And there's that moment in the storm where it's literally Sunny, like you're in the middle of a powerful but it's sunny and you see anything else around you, and you feel, Oh, it's all over. I'm done, but the second part of the storm is coming right behind it. So is that is 2025, the eye where there's going to be more coming.

Bonni McCliss 57:09
I think abs. I think you could look at it that way for sure. I think that you're having momentum. So, you know, we all work with this period of momentum and inertia, okay? And if you look at quantum science, you know, we get into a lot of how the ways that energy works on even down to the smallest particles, you know, the on a neutrino level. But we're dealing with momentum and inertia, and when those create some kind of equality and Critical Mass on each polar side of that, it almost births a new reality. So when we get into this new eye of the needle, it's going to be, I love Greg braden's work around the Isaiah effect. I think that this is really the quintessence of vertical time. I think this is the time where we could do a lot of work to shift the consciousness of Earth. So it's a preparation more than a you better stock your cabinets. The storm is coming. So I don't want to present it as that, yeah, it's, it's, what do we stand for, and how are we going to be of service, and what peace, what talent do you have to contribute to the greater whole? So it really, truly, can be the birth of a new earth, and that's right around the corner. I also predict that there will be a shift in in consumerism. There'll be a shift in focus on what people care about, even down to like the big corporations. I think you're going to see a philanthropy war. And I think the big, big head companies are going to try to pull people in by good deeds,

Alex Ferrari 58:46
Even though their intentions are not honorable. But the work is still there.

Bonni McCliss 58:50
The work is still there. You know, I don't know what company, but you'll get maybe, like Amazon, you know, like we're gonna clean up the ocean, so we're go as and this is not necessarily going to begin directly in 2025 but you're going to see that shift of it's a quantum shift, really. It's a consciousness shift. And even though we know what they're doing, it means that the people care about things that are deeper, more advanced and expansive, and these companies are going to catch wind of that so but win, win. They're gonna have to put their money where their mouth is, where their mouth is.

Alex Ferrari 59:24
Well, that's and that's something that's happened to us over the last 30 years or so, where we demanded organic foods. Yeah, the people we demand, we demanded organic foods. We want cleaner foods. We want cleaner and buildings. And, you know, we don't have asbestos here anymore because, but back then it wasn't, it was absolutely no. But now we're like, no, no, that's not acceptable. Moving forward, we need to do this. So there has this has been going on.

Bonni McCliss 59:50
It's just gonna, well, if you think about we are the Earth and the Earth is, is us, right? It's almost like an external reaction. I'm sorry. It's an external reflection. Of of who we are. Well, if the Earth's iosphere and an energy fields are becoming very porous, if the veil is becoming very thin, what that means to an individual human experiences is transparency. You know, things will be able to be crystal clear and seen. And you know, we better. I think from a from a corporation stance, they better get their ducks in a row.

Alex Ferrari 1:00:24
Let me ask you with in regards to the corporations, that's one of the areas I wanted to talk about with you today, is the the establishments, things that have been there forever. There are companies who've been around for 100 years, or companies like, I'll use Amazon. We're not picking on Amazon, but Amazon's, you know, a juggernaut. You know, it's one of the biggest companies in the world of apple and these other kind of giant Google, these giant companies. There seems to be a shift happening in corporations. We'll talk about the other sectors in a minute, but specifically in corporations where what was once allowed is not being allowed anymore, right by people. People are like, no, no, we're not gonna buy what you're selling. Yes, there needs to be a shift. I think that's what you're kind of talking about. But there's also going to be the old like Sears. Sears went it down, like Sears been around. Sears is gone. I know you know, like, you know, and then you know, you and I are both have been around the planet long enough, yes, there has been, yeah, that there's been companies that, just like, you know, Blockbuster. I always like picking on blockbuster, but when you and I were coming up, that was a jug or not, like Juggernaut, and there's so many of these companies that were huge, and they're just falling and this new kind or new evolution of a corporation are starting to come up, yes, some still with the old systems, like an Amazon, let's say yeah, or Walmart, but yet, there's going to be other ones that are going to overtake Those guys eventually,

Bonni McCliss 1:02:00
100% absolutely a more conscious way, a more conscious way. And if you think about us going through the Great Awakening, just because we're spiritual doesn't mean we're the only ones going through the Great Awakening. It's happening to everybody. It's the compression, it's loaded in our DNA, that we wake up and we have the lucidity in the dream, that we're more aware than ever before. And I think part of nature's plan back to this idea of the avataric state. There are people who are channeling higher worlds that work at Amazon, you know, that work in in governments and political I know this sounds a little naive and high minded, but you know, a great example is, 10 15, years ago. My astral teacher said, You need to get into film. You need to be, you know, you need to be with the masses and talk and be seen. And so I did that, and I tried and it, it, I it, nothing seemed to work. I tried and tried and tried, and I would come home going, Well, I'm trying to do what I feel is I'm being led to do. And, you know, at the end of a lot of frustration and deep meditation, I heard, you have to wait for them. They're not ready. And, you know, wait, Bonni, wait, wait, wait. And now it's literally the first season of my life where people are ready to bear this kind of light and information. So if you look at even Hollywood, you know, in the recent years, with some of the movements, the me too, movement, you know, all of that's being purified and becoming transparent. So even the creators of film and content and exactly what you do, it's coming on now. These are the voices of reason, transparency, truth and light, yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:03:41
Well, since you brought Hollywood up, was one of the topics I wanted to talk to you about. I come from Hollywood. I've been I was, I've been in the business for, at this point, almost 30 years, and I've seen it change dramatically from when I was coming up in the 90s. I saw, I saw a lot in having my other podcasts in this space, where I got to talk to the biggest people in the space about and on air and off about what was going on. The me too, movement was a very big one, obviously, but that was a joke back in the day. You know, the couching the casting couch was a punchline in movies. It was literally everyone heard of the casting couch because it was part of that's it was just like, oh, yeah, you want that part, you gotta go to the casting couch. Like that was, and it's like, you just like, now, but go back to these movies. It was literally a punchline, yeah, you know. And Hollywood accounting is a punchline now, like, you know, yeah, you'll never make money in the movies because they have something called Hollywood accounting that will steal all your money, and they'll do it legally, all this kind of stuff. But these, all these kind of things are starting to come up. They're all bubbling up and changing. The shift that's happened in media, in mainstream media, right? He's been massive Hollywood is, I feel it's. Eating itself and imploding on itself. You could see it in the kind of content they're putting out, and that just the money's not there in the way that it was even four years ago, three years ago, it's just not there. And then the main let's not even talk about mainstream news, or they're all suffering where, while shows like mine and other shows of independent media are starting to rise, you know? I mean, this show gets, like, our episode, that's higher ratings than most CNN shows. You know what? I mean, it's like, seriously, yeah, so, and we don't have, as you been here at the studio, the same kind of overhead that's so, where do you see Hollywood and and I use Hollywood as a general term, from mainstream media, Hollywood and and television and news all that, where is this going? Because I don't, I personally, from my perspective, it's just, it's it's gonna come down, it's gonna crash, and then something will come up out of it. That's my.

Bonni McCliss 1:06:02
Indefinitely. That's what I see happening. And again, if you look at even corporation or Hollywood or anything like that, it's consumer driven. Yes, you know, that's what appealed to people, and that's why the creation was made and set set out that way. So I think as people are changing, you know, they're becoming very sensitive. Everybody's a living Empath right now. We feel so much, and even movies that are fast paced and, you know, all the lights and the sound, and it may appeal to some, but I think more and more and more it's going to be too much for the nervous system to handle. So I think, you know, money always finds, you know, it's arc. You know they're going to figure out what people need. And so I think it's going to be conscious creators like yourself. I think if you, if you love movies, then you know the reason that you love it is because you're putting yourself in a story, in a journey, in an emotional journey. The music is key, the actings, the you know you can, you can feel where those characters have been or where they're going. Well, now, if Hollywood doesn't change, it's, you know, we're not going to be able to recognize it as something in our own lives. So I absolutely feel like it's going to make a massive shift too. Again, is it doing it out of the kindness of its heart? Probably not, but it follows the consumers, and we as the people are definitely waking up,

Alex Ferrari 1:07:23
Right in general, and that's the thing that people are like, well, you know, if Hollywood becomes more conscious, you know, I could see Warner Brothers trying to put on, you know, conscious media, or conscious shows or or movies, and I'm going, it's not coming from a good place, Right? The consciousness. Because that thing that you can't fake, it's, I mean, you might be able to put it out there like philanthropy. You could fake that. You could fake, no, you can't as a corporation. You could just dump a ton of money in it, hire some really good hearted people and let them run that. And it gives you a good impression, a good image as a company, absolutely. But with conscious media, you really need to have conscious people absolutely creating that media, because we'll feel it.

Bonni McCliss 1:08:07
I was just gonna say that we're gonna I think it's gonna be an arc, because how do you explain the science of that to media? Just go through it themselves. But you're spot on. I think that people are so energetically intelligent. Now, you know the feedback I get when the beautiful patrons and people I work with, you know, if they say, you know, when they go back and tell their friends, you know, what did you talk about with Bonnie? They're like, I don't know, but the it was so authentic, and I feel better, you know? And it's such a compliment. Because really, it's not about the words, it's about the consciousness, the depth, the intentionality, and the purified intention of what you're looking to achieve. And so you're spot on. I think that's still has a long way to come, but I think the attempt will be there, and we have to start somewhere.

Alex Ferrari 1:08:54
Well, yeah. I mean, it's like when the temptation, Last Temptation of Christ, not a Last Temptation of Christ, is that the one? Yeah? Is the one the Mel Gibson movie? Oh, yeah, I know Passion of Christ. I'm sorry, not the last, yeah, the Passion of the Christ. When that came out, it was monstrous hit. And I'm not judging the movie or anything, just the concept of what happened for sure. And then all of a sudden, you started seeing Hollywood go, maybe we should make some biblical movies. Maybe we should make some faith based, yeah, that's an audience that we could tap into, and they wholeheartedly didn't buy it. I mean, yeah, you might got a one or two snuck in, but they, they didn't buy it. And then there's a show like the chosen, who I know, the creators of the chosen, and they told me what, I mean, what they've done, regardless if you believe in that path of Jesus or not, regardless what they have done in a media standpoint outside of the Hollywood system, making hundreds of millions as a nonprofit to tell the story of Christ and get that out there, regardless of how it's being told, is pretty impressive and unheard of. That in a studio would never in a billion years, put their money behind something like that.

Bonni McCliss 1:10:05
Well, I think this brings in this concept that we're all going to have to educate ourselves about, and these are the laws of nature. And the laws of nature are really going to be our game plan. And when you look at people creating content or their intentionality, it's this sacred law of compensation or reciprocity. I mean, they really are doing it for the higher good. I mean, I'm not saying this from a, you know, a naive standpoint, but they're to the best of their ability. They're channeling and interpreting truth. So, you know, my it's really interesting to see where this is going to turn out because you have sleeper cells in every single industry. You have these concepts called the imaginal cells, and we know it, you know, it's a pseudo term, but it happens in caterpillars. You know, Caterpillar goes into the chrysalis and its DNA literally liquefies and turns to goop, and that moment just before death. It's so interesting. Your your focus is on, you know, out of body, or, you know, near death experience, because that moment in that liminal space, as I was speaking about earlier, is the moment that kick starts the latent DNA for the next journey of someone's soul and purpose. So you have these sleeper cells in Hollywood, in Amazon, in all these big corporations that may have been doing it for whatever reason or to they've been taught to, to grow and thrive and to, you know, walk through the industry in a certain way, and all of a sudden they wake up, and there's a whole different version of themselves in in play. Yeah. So I think you're going to have a lot of internal oddities happening on from corporate to Hollywood to families to friend groups, because we're not waking up at the same time or in the same way. So it's going to be bombastically beautiful, as it happens. But you know, it's hard to really quantify, because we don't know where those sleeper cells are or the avatars, the avatars, truly, I'm told, are calibrated to channel the gods or the Ascended Masters, and so we just don't know where they're all placed yet, but we're about to find out.

Alex Ferrari 1:12:11
Yeah, it's there seems to be a lot of good and bad turmoil happening. Yeah, it because you need it, though, to all the stuff is coming up. It needs to see the light. Yes, it needs to see the light, and it needs to be dealt with, yeah, in one way, shape or form, and and it's moving at a lightning speed, lightning speed, I mean, and I use AI as a reference. I mean, a couple years ago, that wasn't a term in the zeitgeist, but then around forever the concept, but now it's an integral part of our life. It just, I woke up like, What? What? It's everywhere. Now it's part of businesses. Now, like, if you take AI out of a business, it the business shuts down. Yes, that kind of that's how integral it's. And it's gonna become more and more and more integral. But it's so fast. It's moving so fast. Why are things speeding up so much in all aspects of our existence right now, the advancements, spiritually, technologically, my goodness, yeah, politically, money, all, everything seems to be kind of like speeding up. These last five years have been insane.

Bonni McCliss 1:13:15
I think, I think we're experiencing on a lucid level, on a philosophical level, on a scientific level, we're looking at our own evolution under a microscope. You know, I think as we are being introduced to the cosmic center, maybe over a solar center, or some of these other radionic aspects that are coming in, we're having to absorb, I mean, it's coming through our nervous system, our brains trying to understand that which is perceiving we're becoming, you know, we're looking up to these, you know, higher spiritual concepts. You know, that we're really destined for, but it's going to take us moving beyond cognition. So in some ways, I think it's a push to move into the high speed virtue of ourselves. And that goes back to the heart, heart based living, and then the mind, when it comes to AI, you know, it's such a sentence to some people, it's a really scary concept, but I think, you know, it's going to swing and create this polarized momentum, just like everything else is. I think it's going to advance us and really call us into, you know, living and experiencing world at unprecedented, you know, light speed, literally. And in doing that, we have to slow down. But with AI, I think it's going to get also to a point where we maybe crave the organic nature of the human consciousness or creation. I think it too, can be a catalyst to bring us back to center. Strangely enough, so non attachment, non aversion, I guess, going back to all the things walk the middle way, yeah, yeah, nature's intelligent, and there are no accidents.

Alex Ferrari 1:14:55
Very true, very true. Now, turning back to politics for a second. Just always fun. What is the deeper spiritual purpose behind the turmoil that we're going through and have been going through in politics, not only here in the West, but around the world. It's a very pivotal year. Over 50% of the countries in the world are having some sort of elections. So there seems to be something in the zeitgeist. But what's the deeper spiritual purpose of this for us?

Bonni McCliss 1:15:23
I think, I think it's teaching us just like it has in every epoch or spiritual or any society, ancient societies, you know, it reaches this point of, you know, centered on the ego, or centered on, you know, the lower minded principles of greed or money, or, you know, just this rat race that we're all in, and it gets to that point of critical mass. And in nature, things have to go through that cycle. I mean, it's the detox, it's the purge. And again, I think it's really hard if people are really choosing to get into this and to eat, sleep and drink the news at Fox News, or the political race. And I'm not saying put your head in the sand, either, but it really is a part of this 2024, detox, as things get to this place of of critical mass and energy. So like I said before, what it is doing that's a good thing is it's drawing up this emotionality, this this quest to know more, to be more, to have more. It's returning power, back to the individual. In some ways. We're not sleeping at the wheel, where it got a little comfortable there for a while. It can be likened to the religious model, you know, where it was an expectation. Churches weren't really under the scrutiny that they're under now. It was just you, just your grandparents did it. So you do it. It wasn't really picked apart and looked at deeply. Well, politics are going it's going through the same thing. People are becoming awakened and intelligent, and there's a lot of heat on this. Again, if you look at the bigger cast of characters in our galaxy, it's pushing us to the point of renewal. And everybody's made their journey through the birth canal, and it was probably the worst, one of the worst days ever in a lifetime, trying to make it from the other side into the physical form. I mean, it's a really treacherous road. So you know, when people ask me about politics, my honest answer is, it's necessary to purify itself this way. It's just necessary. So, you know,

Alex Ferrari 1:17:25
How about the so where does the global leadership play in the part of our spiritual evolution over the next decade? Because are we going to have more conscious, I mean, I can't even say, I'm saying this out loud, conscious political leaders around the world that are going to start to help evolve us in a bigger way.

Bonni McCliss 1:17:45
That's what I'm being shown again, back to those sleeper cells. There's no time, Alex, already happened. It's a matter of your own perception. But you know, I think you know, you don't know who's who's positioned where. I mean that there's a lot nature's highly intelligent, like I said. And you know, perhaps this gets back to the whole metaphor found in the Bible of the 144,000 sitting at their post to awaken at this time. So I think, I think we're going to have some great leadership. But I think more than that, we're moving from a hierarchy of leaders and followers to something called circle consciousness, where we're all on the same level and we recognize like they did. You know, our indigenous ancestors knew, you know you had a piece to the pie, you had a gift, and you had some karma to work through, and you just did you, you know, you had a piece to the tribe that was vital. It wasn't necessarily better or worse. It was a vital piece to the whole so when you get into circle consciousness, your peace is every bit as important as the president of any country. You know, we're all looking at each other on the same stage of life. And if you can move from that hierarchical thinking, you can move into really what we need. From my astral teachers talk about non binary states of mind and this non judgment, it's going to be an easier way of evolution if we're for not constantly going up and down. So yeah, I guess it comes down to your perspective, but the cat, it's the cat's out of the bag for sure. Yeah, we're not going back in we feel too much now. Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:19:28
So shifting over to the economy is another area that a lot of people are very concerned about. You know, we've been going through a lot of inflation here in the States and, I think around the world, and things are a little bit shifty. Where do you see or how are the global economy, economic systems going to reflect the shift in human consciousness?

Bonni McCliss 1:19:50
That's big push on Earth is to go within. Even Yogananda talked about that. He said, the second coming of Christ will be inside. You know, it's the Self Realization and. This is the greatest push. So if that's true, I think part of what we're going to go through, even on a consumer level, is, can I make it myself? Can I grow it myself? Can I barter? You know, this is this might take a couple years to really get into this, but if the power is coming back to people and to consciousness, we're looking at the talents that we possess and how to work as a society and as a tribe. And so more and more and more people are going to go, you know, maybe I don't need to be owned by the companies or in the corporation. Again, hard to believe at this juncture in time and space. But I think people are going to empower themselves to create from their living room, to broadcast from their garage. Yeah to Yeah. I mean, I'm currently involved in every pottery class known to man. I mean, the next creator of your dinnerware, who knows? But I think that the power will be returned to our gifts and our talents, and we'll be able to share amongst each other. So this will be a verb in the world to move power into a place that it hasn't been for hundreds of years. And again, the consumers are the voice. We are the voice. We are the shifters of consciousness. And so that's why we're here. That's the whole purpose of our incarnation, to see if we can return back to our center,

Alex Ferrari 1:21:21
And how about the monetary system that has, in many ways, is not serving us anymore. It really isn't. You know, the inflation where you know you could put 100 bucks away, and if you don't do anything with it, it will be worth 60 Absolutely, in the next 10 years or 15 years, you're losing value in money and things like that. So where do you see the monetary systems?

Bonni McCliss 1:21:48
It's, it's, it's going to continue to be a complication, right? It's going to but again, it's, it's what it echoes in our psyche and in our spirit that matters. So I think there will be people who who empower themselves to create, to be creative, to find new ways to live and thrive and to be a part of a community. I think it'll drive communities together, maybe out of necessity at first, just like the corporations, maybe their media campaign is do good out of necessity. But it'll, you know, so it'll have that level of it. The other level, I think it may bring up in people is fear of lack and destitution. You know, if you can't afford to go replace something, you know, some people, their first feeling is to go into panic and anger. But that can only last so long, because it's not your true. It's not your truth, you know. So again, I think that the oddities of the monetary systems and systems at large won't work anymore because of the stressing aspects of Earth and what's happening to us psychologically, emotionally and spiritually.

Alex Ferrari 1:22:52
And it's funny when you're saying that you know, out of necessity, corporations are gonna have to do things differently. I saw an ad the other day for Disney plus Hulu, which they own now, and HBO or max, right in the same package. There we go, yeah. And I'm like, what is I mean, that's how desperate they're getting. They're like, Listen, man, your system's not doing that great. Ours is, I think together. I think if we work together, we might be able to pull a couple more bucks out of the situation, because it's because people are not buying what they're selling anymore. I mean, you can only watch Star Wars so many times. That's right, you know.

Bonni McCliss 1:23:30
Well, we're being forced to work together again. It may not be a high minded snapshot, but it's happening.

Alex Ferrari 1:23:38
Never in all of our years have you seen something like that? No. I mean, yeah, you've seen CO, poor co productions of like, you know, Paramount and Fox, or, you know, as a production thing. But that was a business. This is so different. Yeah, I've never seen any. When I saw that, I was like, oh, there's some. Oh,

Bonni McCliss 1:23:55
The sign of our times. But all of those creative forces together, by God. What can they create when they hybridize,

Alex Ferrari 1:24:03
If they actually, well, if they were more conscious based, but they're but so that gives a perfect example. So going back to Hollywood, a little bit in media, all those companies are run by giant corporations now. They're not run by filmmakers, yeah, or artists, like they were in the 80s, where all the cool ideas came out of and that's what they're remaking now constantly, is the stuff that they took chances on. But they're also focused on shareholders. They're also focused on making money regardless, correct? So their their focus has to be about the bottom line, where, if they shift out of that world into more of a consciousness base. I mean, as I'm saying this out loud, I'm like, You're insane. But to be fair, if 20 years ago you said, Hey everybody and the planet's gonna have ability to do this thing called a podcast and spread their message around the world at pennies on the dollar, right, you would have said you're in you would have no you're right. Right, but most people would have said, most people would have said, You're insane. So what I'm saying here is like, if they don't do these shifts, and it's not gonna happen overnight, but they have to. If not, they will, they will just cease to exist,

Bonni McCliss 1:25:14
Absolutely out of necessity. I think when they make that shift, which I highly predict, it's coming, because the people demand it. Because, you know, so many people tell me, I just can't put on any television anymore. I'll just go to like your show, or conscious shows like you, and they'll, they'll play it constantly, for grounding, for survival. I mean, these are primal reasons people are tuning into broadcast. I mean, it's not just for entertainment anymore. It's for stability and for grounding and connecting and learning. And so the it's coming with a high price tag. So I think as people come together, even in Hollywood, creating conscious media, I think what that will attract are new artists, new philosophers, people from the outside world going, now I'm ready, just like myself. You know, I couldn't seem to break into any kind of media for the longest time, and as I was told they aren't ready. And as soon as people became ready, you know, it's just like, it's just like this perfect flow of meeting people like yourself. So I think as the shift happens, the people that are waiting to come online, so many people out there on your show are probably like, What is my purpose? When is my time? That's the irony to our transition right now, you may be here for tomorrow. You may be here for where the world's about to be, and it's getting a little eerie out there, because things have been maybe decades in the waiting for your talents to come online.

Alex Ferrari 1:26:40
I mean, yeah, I was in the business for 30 years, and if you would have told me 10 years ago, yeah, this thing called podcasting is what you're going to be doing. And I was wondering why in Hollywood when I, you know, I was in the room with the big movie stars and the big I did all that stuff, but it never really popped the way I wanted it to pop, you know, like to be, you know, household name. We all want to be Steven Spielberg. I mean, let's just put it that way. We all want to be Steven Spielberg. If you're a director, you wanted to be Steven Spielberg, or James Cameron, or, yeah, Martin Scorsese. And it never popped that way. Made a living, but didn't pop. And I was wondering, like, Why did, why did the universe put me here? Why? What's the purpose of this? And when you were in the weeds, you could not see, right? Only once I got out and look back, I go, Oh, this was being I was prepped, being prepped this entire decades, decades prepping. The moment that I'm sitting right here with you, that's right, building, what we've built here. This couldn't have happened without those decades of preparation, and I wouldn't, and if we opened this show 20 years ago, it wouldn't go. It just wouldn't have gone.

Bonni McCliss 1:27:48
It's, I love what you're saying, because it's about, it's about the the, you know, the creating and the purifying of the container, and it everything's relevant. There are no accidents. So I see, you know, confusion out there in people that I meet and I see they've held the line a very long time doing things they do not love. But if there are no accidents, and this is the exact moment you probably think, why does, why does the universe hate me right now? But the way that the Akashic process, my guides explain, you know, people coming into their highest mastery of talents through the through this Akashic knowledge body. The way they describe it, to me is that your gifts and talents are like the Hope Diamond, and your life experiences. You could call it karma or strength training, is like the seven miles of mud on top of your gift. And life is not about necessarily, even the gift. It's about shoveling the mud off, not because life is, you know, horrible and confusing. You need to gain whatever strength you amassed through the decades of work that you did before you came here was necessary to hold the light and information that you channel in space for those who do and you know, that's just something I can't say enough to people like you are in strength training. I promise it is for the holding of your diamond

Alex Ferrari 1:29:08
That's beautiful. Now, with the with the economic systems that we have right now are based, especially in the West, on materialism, on buying, buying, buying, buying, buying, buying, constantly. Now the East has fallen, is falling prey to that India and China are starting and that there's a few people over there. So it's they're falling for trap, the trappings of the West, for sure, of the materialistic aspect of things. How can we move forward and create abundance while moving away from materialism and these fear based economic systems.

Bonni McCliss 1:29:43
Yeah, a lot of hard work and focus and centering, because that's been so long in the works, in the pipeline, and what it brings me to is just thinking about why materialism has snagged societies in the first place. You. Know, you know, why do we go shop? Why it's, it's, there's a, there's, you know, an energetic drive there. I mean, you get that spark, you get that excitement, that pursuit. It's like the old hunter gatherers, you know, we're going to Best Buy to get the retail therapy, retail therapy. And we get that, you know, that shot in our brain, that that chemistry, everything feels connected to what we have forgotten and what we're craving from all along. So I think it's been divisive to keep us, you know, in this enthusiasm, but not it's not working anymore. Have you noticed even it's or think maybe we just need to amass more money and get bigger things and even that watching people, if you look at TV and all the reality shows watching that just feels so empty for a lot of us. I think so this need for substance, this need for depth, will not go away. I mean, you have a whole neighborhood of planets really just pounding on the door for this to happen in the human psyche. So I think we're going to be forced, or willingly go or have an epiphany through our meditative places on what our purpose is, what our creation abilities are. It's all about what we have to create, or what we have to give. These little lights are going to start to go on, and we're going to be so busy helping our neighbor mend a fence, or, you know, taking care of people's kids if they need a little bit of extra help, or knitting, or, you know, or walking, or immersing ourself in nature. Again, I know this sounds to some maybe fantastical, like a utopian Earth, but we only have two choices. You collapse in the fear of loss and you can't reach you know what you've been trying, what society has told you is the model all along. You can move in fear and loss and give up, or you can go within and start seeing why you're really here and the talents and the capacities that you possess. So there's only one way, and that's to turn and go within. I think things really the best way. So as people do this, the corporations, Big Pharma, the governments, even families, I think that we're going to see our own essence of the eye of the storm. I think you're going to see things calm down or level out. And it's an opportunity for it to begin again and create a new so that's why we're in the Mad hustle right now, so to speak, to wake up.

Alex Ferrari 1:32:29
Now moving to social media. Social media is one of these tools that is wonderful and horrific all at the same time. Where do you see what part is social media going to play in our human evolution, in our shift in consciousness moving on in the next year to decade,

Bonni McCliss 1:32:48
If people are waking up to their potential or their talents, there's going to be way more, even than now people wanting to create their own content, and so in More and you know, companies are going to recognize that. So I believe there's going to be way more platforms for social media than even now. So I think the multitude that will be birthing over the coming years of platforms, different kinds of social media landscapes, I think that's going to be a little intense, but on the good side of media, it put us all in connection where we would have never been,

Alex Ferrari 1:33:24
Yeah, this show obviously gone unless we couldn't go through traditional media, yeah, broadcast, cable or

Bonni McCliss 1:33:30
Yeah, you know, I do sense. You know, my guides tell me that there will be a level of censorship or conditioning to this before it grows. It looks like there might be kind of a compression or a repression to it, because it's just untethered. And I think people are losing money by all these individual creators. You know, the big corporations are so,

Alex Ferrari 1:33:53
So how are they going to do that? I mean, so let me ask you a question. Then, you know, obviously we broadcast over on on YouTube and but we also broadcast our audio aspect on Apple and all these other platforms, unless Google decides to do something about it. And like, you know, all the let's say Hollywood's calling Google like, Listen, man, these YouTubers are, you know, we can't, yeah,

Bonni McCliss 1:34:15
I'm sure those rooms do exist

Alex Ferrari 1:34:17
And those conversations have happened, yeah. But Google's like, Screw you. We're making obscene amounts of money, and we are not going to mess with our business to do that. We're like someone like a Mr. Beast, and rather you love him or you hate him, it's the biggest YouTuber in the world. He reaches on an episode. 303 50 million people. Sure. It's the Super Bowl. Three Super Bowls every week. That's insane.

Bonni McCliss 1:34:41
I absolutely agree. I think we're going to see and experience the shadow side of algorithm and AI, the suppression of the way content moves through its pipelines, in the Ethernet. I think we're going to see a little bit of that. And that's okay. It may put the it may. Put us in a position to gather in person, which I think is a big part of our evolution, to come together and to meet and to speak in a very organic way without the Internet. So I think that's going to happen a little bit. So you might have these creators, or content creators, or like, where are my numbers? Where are my people? So you might see a little bit of a wobble time from that, especially when we get into 2025, just some odd things there. Don't think it'll affect everybody. I'm not really sure the you know how that's all going to play out. I only bring it up now. My guide says to is to not, don't let take, take heart. Don't give up. It's something that passes and works through the pipeline, just like everything else.

Alex Ferrari 1:35:38
So it's just, it's just an obstacle that we will get through. We will get through and these creators. Because, you know, the power, the great thing is that everybody has a voice. The bad thing is, everybody has a voice. So it's, it's like this, you know, it's all it's too much, but yet it's enough. And if that makes, can

Bonni McCliss 1:35:59
you imagine a world where we get to the point where we care about what we upload into the Akashic field, if our greatest intentionality throughout the day is our high mindedness or our lightheartedness, because we know through the advancement of our being that our contribution is so much bigger than even media could ever reach. Oh, of course, you know. So we get to the point where that might be something that we we we take reverence and understanding too, so we'll see.

Alex Ferrari 1:36:28
So you mentioned AI, and that's a very hot topic. So many people are terrified. We've also movies Terminator, Skynet, all this kind of the matrix, all this kind of stuff. Where do you see AI in its place, with our spiritual evolution and humanity's future in general?

Bonni McCliss 1:36:45
I think it's the same thing. I mean, it's, it has its anybody would argue, you know, it has its benefits and then it has its drawbacks. I think it has to move through to a place of imbalance to get people's attention, just like food. Did you know? It reminds me of the movement of food? You know, where food was just we didn't know where the food was coming. Or back in the 50s when, you know, bread was being fortified, and we're like, it's fine, just eat it, you know, I think right now it's, it's helping everything awaken and arrive artistically and widespread, and you don't have to work so hard to just manage a search engine, you know, or to choose your next film. So it's kind of like a breath of fresh air going we finally get the assistance that we needed. But just like with anything else, I think it's going to go through back and forth with some iterations or phases of people, of really taking away jobs, obviously, or taking away some of the organic rights to creators. May it be music or arts or science, it is so again, don't panic, you know, because the power is not in that, the powers in consciousness. And I know a lot of spiritual leaders right now are getting very, very upset that, you know, this is going to encroach on the consciousness of man. It's going to monopolize what we're capable of, as you know, ascending through our evolution. It will not. It cannot. It cannot. So nothing is more important than the computer of your mind and the Genesis and the light creation of your heart, nothing, not even AI. So if you stay in your truth and you remember who you are and what you're here to do, you will both. You will just blow past any kind of issues that the societal world or the corporate world or anything around you can throw at you. So it's about focus and centering. So, you know, good and bad and everything, but it's all about the middle path.

Alex Ferrari 1:38:36
Now we've also spoken about religious institutions. Now, as I mentioned before on the show, that there were institutions before I am recovering Catholic. So I always pick on the Catholics that the Vatican was this present nothing you know was the Rock of Gibraltar. It was just infallible. Well, that's changed a lot, and I've seen that with a lot of organized religions around the world, institutions, things like that. How is religion going to shift with this human consciousness? Because there's so many people looking at dogma and going, I'm not vibing with that anymore.

Bonni McCliss 1:39:14
If we get back to the laws of nature and we truly look at what is the you know, the power of perception. Every single unit of life is complete. It's not lacking anything. So, you know, and that goes to in the individual, the institution. So, believe it or not, everything has the complete capacity to be everything and nothing and all in between, right? So, again, the powers and the perceiver, first of all. And if you look at if you have trauma or pain, you know, I definitely walk through that part in my life from a religious institution. It's on you. You get to choose now. You get to work through that and forgive and release and heal or not. So on the on the largest scale. Of consciousness, we will shift our perspective and our perception in what is truth. Okay, so I don't think we're going to be hung up in Dogma. I don't I think we're going to blow right past it, honestly. So on the largest level of nature, that's we're going to shift our perspective on a more localized, you know, talking about the here and now, in the third dimension of religion, just like anything else, it's a corporation, isn't it? You know it needs it needs your patronage. It needs your numbers, it needs your money to continue to sustain life. And as people shift and require more and transparency, as we're seeing or depth, you're going to see what used to be a walled off institution, relaxing a little bit. Things like we take everybody, we love everybody, love ones, you know? So I think that that'll be an amazing transformation. I don't know that many will trust it, but nothing can sustain up against the pressures of earth at this time. So that's my big message. I don't think, I don't care what you are, who you are. Any human creation is going to go through transmutation right now, whether it be AI, science, the individual, the corporate, the church, education, the sun's going to win at the day, the the cosmos will evolve one way or the other.

Alex Ferrari 1:41:16
That is a beautiful message because and a needed message to be put out there, that everything will have to, yeah. And, you know, as humans, we generally don't like change

Bonni McCliss 1:41:25
Power of perception, yes, yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:41:27
Generally we don't like, we'd like everything kind of, you know, predictable, generally, because, if not, the tiger eats us.

Bonni McCliss 1:41:36
Alex, it can be predictable if you're, if you're really focusing on the periodicity of nature and the cycles or the algorithm of planets, it actually is pretty predictable. I think we just need to stop making the gods the media or the corporate or the monetary systems. I mean, if we really get back to ground zero, just like again, like our ancestors, and live in this tribal way, weirdly, things will be calm and predictable, and we don't need to attach or to avert we can. It's just enough to be alive. Can you imagine?

Alex Ferrari 1:42:07
Can you imagine one other area I wanted to ask you about is healthcare and the food supply shift, yeah, and food supply, I spent some time in Europe recently, and the food is so different. This food supply is so different. The healthcare system is so so different. You know, we had to get some, some prescription for something that we, you know, my back hurt, or something like that, and we needed to get a muscle relaxer, and we went to urgent care and all that kind of stuff. And it was $15 no insurance. I said 50 euros. Like, no 15. I'm like 50. What's happening here? What is happening so where do, where is the food supply and the healthcare system gonna shift? Because they're both broken, especially here in the West,

Bonni McCliss 1:42:56
For sure, for sure. And again, it's you could look at this in different levels as it goes through its new iteration and change, I definitely predict a coup d'etat that's going to happen through medical insurance companies. And again, it's it's prompted by the people. You know, we're tired. It's not working.

Alex Ferrari 1:43:15
I don't want a $45 or $200 ton at all, like it's insane

Bonni McCliss 1:43:19
And your doctors can't heal you where before you would go in, you would have some symptoms, and allopathic medicine would be able to give you a few things and send you on your way. Well, because we're up against the stressors of a radical environmental shift, our physical needs are different and Uncharted. So that's why, you know, doctors are like, we don't know. Go see a specialist, and the specialist is like, we don't know. So what's going to happen with that? As it already is, we're going to tune into alternative methods of healing. Food and light and sound and electricity will be the medicine of the future. But so as this is going and organic foods will be we can't tolerate the chemicals anymore. Again, our systems are at critical mass, and so we'll do anything to survive. Humans always have. So if we're craving or needing a whole new Health System, or we're needing more holistic care, those big pharma people and corporations are going to get that hit, and you're going to find more health care covering holistic modalities, which will be a major shift.

Alex Ferrari 1:44:22
Well, chiropractic is one that's occasionally, occasionally

Bonni McCliss 1:44:26
You're going to have, like acupuncture and massage. I think it'll be one big healthcare system, one big one that's going to say we now support some holistic modalities. And it will be just a it'll be a shock. It will be a shock, because if you chart the health system back even a couple 100 years ago. I mean, having, you know, I think they really ran homeopathy off the scene. They ran them out of town. They literally ran them. So, I mean, this is a big, you know, if you, if you want to look at it as conspiratorial, or just the the periodicity of nature, it's really intense. But again, our biologies have to upgrade. So the people watching your show are the most powerful agents on Earth, period. And the more that you steep in your beingness, the more that you meditate, the more that you go in your light becomes Supercharged. You are becoming a living radionic force and magnet. So these are the people that can, can affect through manifestation, through creation, through, you know, channeling, the Akashic records, whatever you want to say about it. Those are the people that are going to be this is the new earth, and this is how we do the protocols. So

Alex Ferrari 1:45:36
The thing is, you can't patent a leaf. No, you can't you. That's why they ran them out, because they're like, no, just take this leaf, or take this, this, you know, pill, or, you know, remedy that we've created, yeah, based on nature, right? It will heal you. But they're like, no, no, we'll take that leaf. We're just gonna do a little something, and now we can patent it, and now we can make billions of zillions of dollars.

Bonni McCliss 1:46:00
I just don't think money will be our God for much longer. And I think that's where you know, if you take it back to like Hanuman, the godfather of homeopathy, one of his laws was the law of infinitesimals. And that means, basically, in English, less is more. Less is more.

Alex Ferrari 1:46:15
Oh my gosh. So the term of minimalism. Minimalism is so much. Every time you move, you really want to be a minimal, minimalist. Every time you move to a new house, you're just like, why I haven't looked at these forever? Why am I these are heavy? What am I doing lugging this around? Yes, it's crazy. It's crazy.

Bonni McCliss 1:46:35
Yeah. Well, that's kind of in tune with the slower that you move and the less that you do in your life right now, it increases your vibratory rate and your frequency. So it's all kind of it's these laws of nature that are coming onto the scene, and we're re educating or remembering this is the real way to co create with Earth. And as we do that, then the powers and the phenomenons, the superhuman states that we've read about will return to here and now so we won't be broken and sick as we feel right now.

Alex Ferrari 1:46:36
Yes, please. Thank you. And finally, is there any major event or major energy shift that's going to happen over the next decade that's going to be something as equivalent to solar flares, equivalent to an eclipse, equivalent to the pandemic, for humanity to move in their consciousness. And I'm not saying on this day this, but is there any sort of thing that's going to happen the next 10 years?

Bonni McCliss 1:47:30
I think everything is going to put us on steroids at this point. So, you know, the climactic events that we actually need to tune into, which we're seeing people do already, are these eclipses? Are these, you know, seasonal junctures, the equinox, the solstice. I mean, these are those really empowering points as the years click by and the veil, the veil to Earth, becomes thinner and thinner and thinner. Those places are going to be points of creation. So I don't know that it's going to be any new thing that's going to hit Earth. Our everyday lifestyle is going to be full of different energetics that, depending on who you are and the lifestyle that you're leading, will affect you differently, but we are returning back to nature and its course and its cycles. So yeah. I mean, we need to hang on and pay attention. Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:48:17
Now I'm going to ask you a few questions. Ask all my guests.

Bonni McCliss 1:48:19
Sure.

Alex Ferrari 1:48:20
What is your definition of living a fulfilled life?

Bonni McCliss 1:48:25
My definition of living a fulfilled life, personally is how I can serve and what can I do through my actions, through my intentions, to lighten my heart, to be a better receiver and container of light and information. How can I align personally so that I can give back more that is, I think, going to be the creative, any open hearted person on the planet as we go forward.

Alex Ferrari 1:48:52
Now, if you had a chance to go back in time and speak to little Bonni, what advice would you give her?

Bonni McCliss 1:48:56
If I had a chance to go back and speak to little Bonnie, I would tell her, Do not be so scared of the dark. Do not. Don't be so scared of what you don't understand yet, because everything that's happening is for your highest good. Trust your life. Trust your life. It all matters.

Alex Ferrari 1:49:16
How do you define God or Source?

Bonni McCliss 1:49:18
I know it's the cheesy answer, Alex, but it's just love. It really is unconditional, expansive, never ending. What is love? What is love? Unity, presence, truth, the nun committing to the floppy disk but basking in the Bluetooth rays of all that ever could be. I think it's a life without limits. It's a consciousness in full blown trust of what is and taking into your heart everything, whether it throws a shadow or a pain or a contrast or a confusion, you let everything into your heart without judgment. So I think at the end of the day. What is love, acceptance and non judgment,

Alex Ferrari 1:50:03
And what is the what is the ultimate purpose of life?

Bonni McCliss 1:50:06
Experience. Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:50:09
Fair enough. And where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing?

Bonni McCliss 1:50:12
They can visit me at my website, psychicbonni.com or my retreat center, The Legend of Greater Things.

Alex Ferrari 1:50:20
Very cool. And do you have any parting messages for the audience?

Bonni McCliss 1:50:23
Non attachment, non aversion, trust. Your life. Every single thing you are encountering is perfect for you in the here and now. So it's your journey to find out why, and to go then.

Alex Ferrari 1:50:37
Bonni, it has been such a pleasure having you on the show. It was such a great conversation, and I think it help a lot of people.

Bonni McCliss 1:50:45
I think we covered every facet of the modern world. I don't think we left anything out, maybe pets, but

Alex Ferrari 1:50:52
Appreciate you my dear. Thank you again.

Bonni McCliss 1:50:54
Thank you. Thank you.