Alex Ferrari 0:00
From spirits perspective right now, what is? What is humanity struggling with the most at this moment in history?

Terry Yoder 0:08
Humility.

Alex Ferrari 0:10
That's a good one.

Terry Yoder 0:12
Connection to their own consciousness and their respect for one another. I don't read cards and do mediumship to glorify the devil or any negative force. I do it to help people and to glorify God. I believe that we're always in the palm of the hand of God. I believe that we're always protected, but you're permitted to be challenged and tested for your own ability to grow and learn.

Alex Ferrari 1:02
Now before we jump into this episode, if this conversation resonates with you, please like subscribe and share this with whoever you feel that needs to hear it. Your support helps us keep bringing this information out into the world and helps us awaken this planet. Thank you. I like to welcome to the show Terry Yoder, how you doing Terry?

Terry Yoder 1:25
Pretty good. Thank you so much for having me today.

Alex Ferrari 1:28
Thank you so much for flying down to Next Level Soul Studios. I appreciate it.

Terry Yoder 1:32
Very welcome, my pleasure.

Alex Ferrari 1:33
So you have had an interesting, interesting life. To say the least. You've died twice, and then that opened up your psychic abilities and mediumship as well, right? Yes, so you do both psychic and medium. I've always been told you can be a psychic and don't have to be a medium, but you can't be a medium without being a psychic, right? Is that true? Right? So take us back to the your first near death. It was young, right? So it didn't Can you talk a little bit about that? The 14 year old, when you were 14, is when it really

Terry Yoder 2:04
That was the that was the big one. When I was born. I was born six months I was born two months early. I was taking cesarean section because my mother had toxemia. So when they cut my mother to take me out, I jumped up and threw my arms. Doctor says, I hope you're ready for this one. So that was, I believe that was a near death experience. I was in an incubator for quite a while, and before they could take me home. But at 14, I believe that that first one at birth, I believe that that was kind of my ability to choose whether to go or stay, because I've got a pretty big plate this time around. And at 14, I was kind of aimlessly lost and difficult process. And the near death experience at 14 is the one that quickened me and wakened, woken me up, awakened my gifts inside of me. I didn't know it at the time, about two days after the near death experience, everything that is, every blade of grass, every tree, every leaf, every person, had a thin, golden aura around it. Something's off, something's different, something's new. And then I went to my grandmother's that summer and found a decathro carts in a drawer for which there was no explanation at the time, and they came to life for me. And I was like, wow, these, these really were

Alex Ferrari 3:37
And this is 14. This is after?

Terry Yoder 3:40
This is after

Alex Ferrari 3:41
Alright, so before, did you have any inclination in regards to psychic abilities mediumship? Did you see dead people walking around like, how anything at all?

Terry Yoder 3:50
No.

Alex Ferrari 3:51
So you were, yeah, it was that it was dormant.

Terry Yoder 3:54
I can recount being three or four years old and driving by a drive in in a nearby town and seen a shadow person.

Alex Ferrari 4:05
You mean a shadow person, meaning like a spirit, okay?

Terry Yoder 4:08
A shadow person, the big hat and the cape and that sort of thing. And it was in October, so my mother threw it off that it was just a Halloween costume.

Alex Ferrari 4:18
So it's almost, did they almost look like a Dementor from Harry Potter, almost, almost right, something like that

Terry Yoder 4:23
Big brimmed hat in the cape, the flowing cape.

Alex Ferrari 4:27
Interesting. So, so what is a shadow person? Is it that's not a spirit, it's something else.

Terry Yoder 4:32
It's, I'm not even sure how to describe it. I believe that they're a lower level entity that comes to bring fear, and it feeds off of it feeds off of fear,

Alex Ferrari 4:45
Very much like a Dementor, yes, much like where she got that from. Wonder, wonder, where she got that from. So that's interesting. Okay, so you, you're 14, what? What, what leads up to your death? Because generally, 14 year olds, right, don't, don't have your death experiences.

Terry Yoder 5:06
Well, I'm not proud of it, but I was a very, very lonely young fella. I was raised in East Central Indiana, and 60s and 70s, I didn't realize it, while I realized it at the time that I was actually growing up gay, and that was a lonely existence, and I met a friend who taught me to huff gasoline and please don't do it. It's not a good thing. It can actually kill you. And was Memorial Day weekend, 1979 Sunday, I was huffing gasoline, and huffed for probably two hours straight. Oh, Jesus, and I wasn't a smart child,

Alex Ferrari 5:06
And that wasn't helping your intelligence.

Terry Yoder 5:55
Wasn't helping my intelligence either, but it was a way of coping. It was a way of escaping the reality of things. And I left my body. I left I left my body. I went up and hovered above my body. And I was alone, okay? And there was a voice that spoke to me and was coaxing me to let go. Just let go. Come with me. Let go. Everything will be fine. Just and there was like, This doesn't feel like a right voice, and I didn't trust it. And then, just then, my dad lifts the garage door, and I was shoved back in my body. Instantaneously, he saved my life. He saved my life. So I was just hovering above my body. And I believe it's in that moment that that experience is the experience that opened my gifts wide open.

Alex Ferrari 6:54
You basically had an out of body experience. You were dying, or might have been.

Terry Yoder 6:59
I was on the path to death.

Alex Ferrari 7:01
What I find interesting about this story is that you had a voice talking to you, but you didn't trust the voice. What do you think that voice was?

Terry Yoder 7:10
Negative.

Alex Ferrari 7:12
It was negative. It was It wasn't something positive.

Terry Yoder 7:14
I think it was. I think it was lower energy trying to snuff me out, because I'm here for a purpose

Alex Ferrari 7:22
Interesting. Have you dealt with those energies since?

Terry Yoder 7:25
A couple times. Yeah, when I was first opening up, I had something lay down on the bed with me and whisper my name. Oh, that's fun. Oh, yeah. Ready for Halloween, right? Great night's sleep that night. Yeah. But then that's when I was introduced to my first guide. Is when that experience happened. Then I literally had this experience where my guide, Crystal came in over top of me and said, you know, this is a negative force. This is something that you need to resist. And it was at that point that my gifts really started to take off.

Alex Ferrari 8:05
I wanted to ask you about something, because it's something that's kind of come up into my life recently, in regards to negative entities, negative energy. And it's something I've been, you know, discussing with other contemporaries of yours, and I find, I find kind of fascinating because the energy when we when we talk about, like the astral realms, and we talk about negative spirits, and we talk about, like hauntings and things like that, my understanding of hauntings and things and please tell me your experiences. Obviously are ghosts or not ghosts, but spirits or fractals or echoes of spirit that are trapped in almost a loop of a traumatic experience. So there's that I had a story. I had someone come on that they there was a haunting in the house, and they say, one o'clock, everything's gonna go crazy. And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't feel anything. And at one o'clock it's a civil war, or World War One. It was civil war. World War one hospital, makeshift hospital, I think it was the Civil War. And there's nurses, and there's bodies everywhere, and bloods all and it's all these spirits that are kind of caught in that loop. So that's one thing. It's not that's not particularly negative. They might just not want you there because they're going through their own stuff. Does that make sense? What I'm saying? Yes, all that makes sense. Okay, absolutely. But then you're talking about negative entities, which are that lower level energies, who are our spirit as well, but they just haven't evolved themselves out of it yet, right? So they feed on fear. They try to create fear, and all of that

Terry Yoder 9:41
Create fear, create diversions from your process, from your direction,

Alex Ferrari 9:45
And the bigger, the bigger the mission, the more intense that could be, depending on what you're here to do. Because they don't want to see happiness. They don't want to see evolution. Is that all

Terry Yoder 9:57
Right! They don't want to see edification. They don't want to see. People aided, helped assist.

Alex Ferrari 10:01
So they're there to kind of mess it. But the thing is that they are essentially light is much more powerful. Yes, always, always. So the light that you generate yourself, and also, I've heard stories in near death experiences where people go through a hellish experience, where they go down because they were either Catholic or they were in their religion, or their patterning in their brain, they believe that they need to go through that, so they go through it. And all the time, every single one that I've at least interviewed that have had a negative near death experience when they come down and they're stuck there for days. Let's say all they do is ask, once I need help, can someone come and help me as when Archangel Michael, or an archangel shows up, or Jesus shows up, or someone and it's light and they just scatter. Is that essentially the way it works?

Terry Yoder 10:56
I believe that. Yeah, yes.

Alex Ferrari 10:59
Is it? You remember the movie Ghost, of course.

Terry Yoder 11:03
Oh, yes, yeah,

Alex Ferrari 11:03
It has. It gets a lot of things right. It does. It gets a lot of things right.

Terry Yoder 11:09
I don't necessarily agree with the dark things coming up out of the ground, and that was yanking you off to hell, right? There's that. But there was a lot of truth in that,

Alex Ferrari 11:21
Oh, I mean a lot of truth, because the more I've spoken to so many psychic mediums, and I look at Whoopi and what she did in that movie, and what the whole all of that stuff was pretty accurate, but I was going to bring up the negative energies those, we'll call them the mentors, for lack of a better word right now, pulling the soul into a hellish who knows where they were being pulled into, but that's kind of the kind of low level energy you're talking about, like these kind of ground dwelling, very low energy, basic energies. Is that true? Yes. So what can someone do to protect themselves? Because I I've heard of many in the Eastern philosophies, in the Vedic chants and mantras that help give you protection, meditations, what do you do?

Terry Yoder 12:07
Whenever I feel something like that, I immediately stop and I say, anything that cannot or will not walk in the light of Christ must depart now and God bless you. That usually does the trick. Sometimes I have to actually pull away and go into a state of meditation. I mean, I had a situation last night where I had something trying to affect me as I was trying to go to sleep, and I'm just like, I had to rebuke three times, and then it stopped, and I was able to get a peaceful night's sleep. So it does happen, and I find that it happens most with me to try to prevent me from doing or achieving something that I'm trying to achieve for the good of the whole and being on the show would be one of those things. Being on the show would be one of those things.

Alex Ferrari 12:56
So they were trying to slow you down or stop you,

Terry Yoder 12:59
Confuse me, work me up

Alex Ferrari 13:01
Interesting. And there's a difference between and this is, I'd love to hear your thoughts on this, because so many of us think we have spirit guides, we have our loved ones, we have protectors, we have ascended masters. We have angels around the guardian angels, all these things, but yet these, these entities still are able to get through. So can you explain to me what the difference is between your guardian angel, which or your Ascended Masters, or your spirit guides, any of these who are there to protect you on the macro level, I guess, right, but this seems to be a micro level kind of situation that they don't get involved in, unless asked, unless you ask for assistance, is that I'm just trying to understand.

Terry Yoder 13:45
I believe that we're always in the palm of the hand of God. I believe that we're always protected, but I believe that these little incidents like last night, came to teach me something, right? You're never out of grace, but you're permitted to be challenged and tested for your own ability to grow and learn.

Alex Ferrari 14:07
Yeah, because if it's kind of like a parent who constantly is protecting the child from the world, but the moment that the parent is not there, the real world comes up. Yes, and you're not prepared. Yes, you're not prepared. What are taxes? Do I have to pay taxes? My parents paid my taxes all this time, laundry. What is that? I just all showed up and my clothes were always clean. You know, that's and that happens all the time, right? You know, all the time, especially if you have a Latino mother, like I took me a minute to kind of get home. I had to break free from that and just go, Hey, I'm gonna do my own laundry. I gotta figure this out exactly. I love you, mom.

Terry Yoder 14:48
I'll never forget the day that I was getting up at 7:30 in the morning to go to work and realize I was like, 21 and I'm like, Oh, I'm going to have to do this. Mm. For the rest of my life until I'm done. It isn't true. I don't have to get up at 7:30 every morning, but I realize, well, I have to do this the rest of my life.

Alex Ferrari 15:11
Terry, one thing, if I I feel about you is that you're such a gentle energy, a gentle soul,

Terry Yoder 15:18
I pride myself on that.

Alex Ferrari 15:19
Yeah, you're, very you're very gentle. If there's a kindness that comes from you, there's a gentleness that comes from you, your energy kind of just says that you and as you tell me, like, yeah, something last night was trying to get to me. I'm like, it almost senses like, oh yeah, he's an easy target, because he seems so gentle and so kind. You're not like, this warrior or anything like that, that I can the energy. I'm sure you are a warrior. In many ways in your life. Need to be, I will be correct. But generally, your baseline is very kind, very gentle. It must be more difficult doing the work that you do, because you see, obviously, are an empath, obviously you feel people's energy. How do you kind of do the work? And yet, still, because there's a lot of empathic people listening, and a lot of people who are gentle and kind in their everyday life, but the world rough sometimes, yeah, and getting it seems to be getting rougher in areas of the world. So how do you deal with that? How do you, kind of, not like, protect your energy. That's a big question is like, how do you protect your energy from other people's either jealousies or other people's hatred or other people? Because I got to believe or miss you've done, you've dealt with this, right?

Terry Yoder 16:34
Yeah. I mean, an example that I can think of is there was, at one point I had another local psychic in my area, the Bay Area, who actually sent someone to do a 15 minute telephone reading with me so they could trash me on Yelp. And it was all taken out of context. It was all completely, totally misconstrued. And when I looked at this woman's reviews, it's like, Aha, six positive reviews for XYZ, and here I am being trash. And that was enough for me. I'm like, oh, it's jealousy. I don't need to deal with this. Let it go. It gets hard though, because sometimes you deal with difficult people, stop it difficult people and unbelievable situations. And I just when it's over, I step away, I brush off, I ask for renewal. I cleanse. Put it in perspective.

Alex Ferrari 17:44
But do you go through a daily ritual of, kind of like protecting yourself and cleansing yourself? Because I got to imagine the energies that you deal with on a daily basis, doing the work you do? Yes, is difficult, just like a simple Psych is as simple as I say simple, a simple psychic reading, or a simple medium, you know, a mediumship session where you're talking to a loved one, right? It's energy that's flowing through, in and out of you. And I get, I mean, at a certain point you got to cleanse that stuff.

Terry Yoder 18:09
You do need to cleanse it, because if you don't, it builds up. And like attracts like, build it, build it, build it, build it. It can actually consume you if you don't clear it. Interesting. How do you clear it again? I step back. Do a brief meditation. Focus on white light, golden light coming in through the top of my head, pushing all of that out, relinquishing all of that, letting it go in God's name. Light of God.

Alex Ferrari 18:39
Were you raised religious?

Terry Yoder 18:41
I was not raised religious, but at 14, I had the near death experience. I found the tarot cards. They came to life for me. I had my first relationship, and I went into the Pentecostal church, all within a four month period.

Alex Ferrari 18:57
That seems like a lot.

Terry Yoder 18:58
Yeah, I really do it up, don't I? How'd that work out? Sir, actually, you know what? It worked out really well. I I was so devout in my love of God and my love of Christ, and I really devoted myself to the Christian faith. And about three and a half years in, I started to see holes.

Alex Ferrari 19:26
You mean plot holes in the story?

Terry Yoder 19:30
Holes in the faith, interesting. Where's the love of Christ?

Alex Ferrari 19:36
Yeah. So you mean, they're not really, you mean, the churches are not about what Christ actually spoke about, right? Stop it!

Terry Yoder 19:45
Right! And, I mean, at 14,

Alex Ferrari 19:48
You figured this out of 14 or 17

Terry Yoder 19:50
14 to 17, yeah, I'm, like,

Alex Ferrari 19:52
A hell of a bit more advanced than I was, that's for sure.

Terry Yoder 19:54
I'm like, you know, this just, I mean, that was what I said when I left, was, where's. The love of Christ, and nobody could give me an answer. It was just anger, haughty, right? But you know, my foundation is in Christianity, and I, I have, it's, it's the foundation upon which my gifts were centered at 14, when, when I gave my life to Christ, I was given multiple of the spiritual gifts right then and there on the spot, I think that was the grand poobah opening the portal and really putting me in place to receive from spirit.

Alex Ferrari 20:38
But, and I'm going to play devil's advocate. No pun intended here. According to the Christian faith, what you do as far as a psychic medium, you're the devil. This is the devil's work. So that's really interesting. You say the second I kind of opened myself up to Christ, maybe not the faith, but Christ itself, the energy of Christ consciousness, that's when these things opened up in you.

Terry Yoder 21:02
Yes, this said that's pretty fast. So it's that's when they went into operation.

Alex Ferrari 21:06
They opened up, they turned on. So when they turned on, how did a 14 year old deal with that in a time where they didn't have shows like this, or even information like this, other than in an occult books, an occult bookstore, or you pick up an Edgar Casey nothing like that, where I was raised exactly you wouldn't. You're you might find an Edgar Casey book in a library somewhere. That's really maybe a Jane Roberts, if you're lucky, kind of you know books or Alice Bailey.

Terry Yoder 21:35
Interesting that you bring that up? Because my greatest source of help and strength was my grandma, Ruby. And she read every Edgar Cayce book, every Jane Roberts book, Alice Abelia, all of it. Yes, all of it. Her favorite book was when God was a woman.

Alex Ferrari 21:54
That's the name of the book. Yes. Genius name. I love it.

Terry Yoder 21:58
Yeah. And she would always tell me, you have a very special mind. If you'll open it up and use it to its fullest potential, you've got great things to do. And she was my saving grace. She was my saving grace because I had no one. And I'm totally self taught, Alex, I'm taught by spirit. It just I let flow. What needs to flow.

Alex Ferrari 22:23
Wow. I love her name, Grandma Ruby. Grandma Ruby. That's beautiful. So she was there kind of helping you as a guide during those years.

Terry Yoder 22:32
In actuality, she had told me that when she was very little, four, four or five years old, when people would come to visit, she would come and lay her hand on their knee and prophesy.

Alex Ferrari 22:45
Oh, so she had the gift.

Terry Yoder 22:47
And this is 19, 15, 16, rural Missouri. So you were close, literally, they started locking her up when people would come. So what ended up happening was she could feel and sense and receive, but she couldn't express anything that she got. So I believe I get tears in my eyes. I believe that I'm in some way, a product of her, and in in some small way, I'm helping do for her what she wasn't able

Alex Ferrari 23:28
That's that's beautiful, that's beautiful, but at least you had someone, yes, someone to help you along the path, along the path, because 60s and 70s, it was just a starting to crackle open a little bit here and there.

Terry Yoder 23:42
My first crackle in this was about fourth grade, so I guess I was around 10 years old. Somebody asked me, a classmate asked me in the reading section of the room what I thought I was going to do for a living in my life. And I said, you know, I believe that I have, I believe that I have some special sensitivities, and maybe I'm a psychic, I don't know, but I think maybe I'm going to be like a psychic psychotherapist. Now, I am not, yeah, I am not a psychotherapist. I am not licensed. I know my boundaries, and when I get into something where people need professional help, I refer them that direction. I'm not going to sit here. I feel I would be afraid that I would do harm, sure.

Alex Ferrari 24:37
Well, you have you have ethics, yes, you have morals, yes, which is interesting. So okay, so you start using your gifts. At what point did you decide to come out and start doing this publicly? Or how long did you kind of,

Terry Yoder 24:52
Well, when I found the cards, I started using them. I read for my grandma, and she's like, Oh, we don't talk about that in the family. Okay, we don't talk about that. So I was starting to learn tact.

Alex Ferrari 25:04
Don't walk in. I'm like, you know, Uncle Bob just came in and he likes to talk to you about something. You don't just say that at the family gathering, right? Uncle Bob died five months ago. You don't do that

Terry Yoder 25:16
Like in ghosts. You can't say that. You got to water it down. Girl, you in danger.

Alex Ferrari 25:23
Girl, you in danger. They gonna kill you.

Terry Yoder 25:28
So, yeah, ethics and morals and I put my I try to put myself in the position of my clients. If I were in their shoes, this is what would be most helpful for me. This is how this is how I would want to be treated.

Alex Ferrari 25:53
Fair enough, yeah. How do you receive the messages from Spirit,

Terry Yoder 25:58
Who a lot of different ways.

Alex Ferrari 26:01
All the Claires.

Terry Yoder 26:02
I'm sorry,

Alex Ferrari 26:03
All the Claires,

Terry Yoder 26:04
All the Claires, okay, yeah, which clairvoyance, clairaudience, clairsentience, clairallen's, which is clear smell, okay, Phantom fragrance, clear smelling, smell, cigars and clairgustantz, which is clear taste stop it. Yeah. I had a reading one time when I first started doing it for the public, I had two women in front of me, and I'm like, ladies, I keep smelling popcorn and tasting popcorn, and I feel like there's some significance of popcorn. And they're like, Oh my God. We were just talking on the way over here about how much we love popcorn and that we're out and we have to stop at the store on the way home to get some well, that made all the difference in the world, because now they know that I'm tuned in,

Alex Ferrari 27:00
Right, and now they that was, that was the proof, the evidence that, like, oh, something's going on here, right?

Terry Yoder 27:04
One of the most powerful stories I have about clairsin, clairallen's the clairsmell. My mom died in 2014 and I came home from work about a week and a half later, and a fox ran and jumped across the road in front of my car. And I'd never seen a fox in the wild before, and I never seen a fox fly like Rocky the Flying Squirrel, so it really stuck out. And when I got home, I said, Mom, you know, I feel like that. I feel like that Fox had something to do with you. And I looked it up in my animal speak book and said, Anyone with a totem of Fox would have an obsession with their hair. Well, kind of tough. But then my mother to the day, she died. If someone rang the doorbell, she'd make sure her hair was in place. So I felt it was my mom that does. Fox was a message from my mom. And then all of a sudden, Alex, my entire living room filled with the scent of noxima. And that's my mother, right? And you know, a few times before my dad passed away, he would tell me, I woke up in the middle of the night and the room smelled like noxima. He said that, uh huh, with no noxima in the house. So when mom comes in, it's noxsema.

Alex Ferrari 28:37
Interesting. So that. So that happens often the smell?

Terry Yoder 28:42
Not as often, but I'll tell you, when smell occurs, it's usually a very to me. It goes right into the soul. It's a deep, deep connection, connection.

Alex Ferrari 28:57
So what's your bread like? What's your meat and potatoes? Way of getting messages.

Terry Yoder 29:02
Empathy, empathic. I feel everything.

Alex Ferrari 29:06
But do you see any images in your mind? Yes. Do you see, do you actually, well, those are, those are psychic messages. But how about like when you're seeing a person? Do you see the soul on this like? So is there anyone but next to me right now, I'm just curious, of course, yes, yes, I have people around me. Yes, of course. I could probably name a few of them, but I won't. So you see them?

Terry Yoder 29:30
I don't see them. Okay, I feel them.

Alex Ferrari 29:33
But if you try to tune in, do you see them? Or how does that work?

Terry Yoder 29:38
How you don't? It's very difficult to explain how you see emotionally.

Alex Ferrari 29:42
So when I say see, you actually see something like an entity, of an image of something visual.

Terry Yoder 29:51
Usually, I'm not big on scene entities or spirits. It has happened.

Alex Ferrari 29:59
So. You're, you're more feeling than

Terry Yoder 30:01
Feeling clairaudience. I hear, Oh, I hear everything. Sometimes, you know, somebody hasn't been in a relationship for 14 years, and I've got Abba above my head. Take a chance. Take a chance. Take a chance. Take a chance. I hear songs. I hear movie lines. I hear I hear voices. I hear emotions. I sense emotions. I do see some, but feeling, hearing and sensing is really my strongest. It's difficult to describe how you can feel somebody from the inside out.

Alex Ferrari 30:43
I kind of understand what you mean. It's a very deep connection.

Terry Yoder 30:47
It'll come right up through the center of me.

Alex Ferrari 30:49
Yeah, it seems like a very deep connection. Do you mind? Can we do an experiment? Do you mind?

Terry Yoder 30:56
What's that?

Alex Ferrari 30:57
Could you if there's somebody here, can you just kind of find out who that person is? And I can tell you yes or no, and like, if you again, we'll cut it out.

Terry Yoder 31:06
I don't do I am, I am not big on getting names, addresses, phone numbers, lottery numbers, none of that the way that I work. Alex is, I'll ask someone, is there someone on the other side that you would like to connect with? And they say yes. And I say, may I have that person's name, and May I know your relationship to them. When they give me the name and the relationship, I feel a vibrational tone go off in my heart, okay, the frequency of you. Yes. So then when that matching tone comes in and connects, I know that that's the person, and then I start to emote and feel the messages and sensations that are supposed to be expressed.

Alex Ferrari 31:56
Well, that's beautiful. That's a beautiful way of doing it. You're unique in the way that you

Terry Yoder 32:02
I'm unique in the way that I read tarot. I'm self taught. I'm taught by spirit. I'm unique in the way that I work in mediumship and Alex, that is a very important message to everyone, is everyone's gifts are absolutely unique. They're the same gifts, but they're unique for every person.

Alex Ferrari 32:25
Well, yeah, I mean every not everyone's going to throw the basketball the same way, right?

Terry Yoder 32:29
I mean, in First Corinthians, it talks about the gifts of the Spirit, and it talks about how unto each person is given as much as they would will, and that each person has the same gift given by the same God for the same work, but it's their own unique expression.

Alex Ferrari 32:47
I got to ask you something that what I find fascinating with people who judge other people and especially kind of the work that you do, coming from a Christian faith, let's say where I come from, Catholic faith, we discuss, like what you do is frowned upon. It's like it's the devil's work. But yet, if you're made of the same stuff, if God made you, and God has given you these abilities, because you have them regardless, how can they be bad? Like, how can they be connected to the devil? Watch, you know, and all that kind of stuff. I just find it so that's one of the plot holes.

Terry Yoder 33:32
I believe that it read, I believe that it reverts back to your intention. Because there's a, there's a passage in the Bible, it says it's by your works that you're known well before there's work, there has to be intention. So it's through the intention that you're known. I don't read cards and do mediumship to glorify the devil or any negative force. I do it to help people and to glorify God. I mean, I was given a prophecy at 14 that said, Go forth and love my people in my name. That's what I do, is love God's people in God's name.

Alex Ferrari 34:16
It's beautiful. Why do you think you were drawn to the Christian faith, because I know you have a lineage of Amish, right in your in your in your line, right distant, but still there. Yeah, is that? Why do you think that in this life, when you came in, you that this is the path you went down, and you weren't born Hindu, or you weren't born Muslim, or you weren't born Jewish or another path. Why do you believe that this was the path? Because it seems like it's so natural for you.

Terry Yoder 34:47
I think it's a path that I've repeated over and over. I think I've had numerous lifetimes in Catholicism. Got it a lot of lifetimes in France.

Alex Ferrari 34:58
Have you been to France? Yes. And you felt, how is it when you go back, do you feel?

Terry Yoder 35:03
I feel at home. Yeah. And oddly, my French teacher in school was from Kentucky, so Bonjour, bonjour **Speaking in French** But somehow, out of that, when I speak French, people will ask me if I'm from Toulouse because of the accent, because of the accent, and I've never been to Toulouse in this life, but when I was in fourth grade, again, fourth grade, we were studying Europe, and the teacher said, Okay, based on its position and based on what you know about France, what do you think it would? What you think it would be like, What would and I described the steps up to saccoco. And the teacher turns over a picture, and it's the steps up to soccer. Yeah. So, yeah, I freaked her out. I think it's a I think it was a repeat of something that I had done over and over and over. And I'm very strong on spiritual truth and freedom. I'm more about the do's than the don'ts. And I think that I came in this time to experience this so that I could undo all the don'ts that I had been up against in my life and be more on the freedom of the do's, the doing of what is right

Alex Ferrari 36:39
From spirits perspective right now, what is? What is humanity struggling with the most at this moment in history?

Terry Yoder 36:48
Humility.

Alex Ferrari 36:50
That's a good one,

Terry Yoder 36:52
Connection to their own consciousness and their respect for one another, powerful and very true, and it shakes me to my core.

Alex Ferrari 37:04
Let's, let's, let's connect with each one of those. So the first one is being humble. Humility. I throughout history, it seems that humanity is always trying to dominate and trying to control and trying to conquer, and it's led us to this point, I feel the energy is a bit changing now, where the Divine Feminine seems to be coming back up, because it's what we need at this point. We needed the masculine for a long time. And it's not to say the masculine is bad. It's just a different energy. There's a ying and the yang, they have to balance it. And we've been forcing, you know, all this kind of, like cocka cracker, but we need to bring up the divine feminine, which is what's happening right now. Do you agree with like that? You feel the same thing that there is that that is kind of shifting

Terry Yoder 37:54
Yes, that's kind of doing this right now, going back and forth a little bit. Yeah. But the the feminine essence is rising. The essence of spirit is rising.

Alex Ferrari 38:05
Because humanity is always no matter what time of history, we all have figured out. At any time a moment in history, we're like, yep, we know how the universe works. It's Zeus. It's Yes, we we revolve around the universe revolves around us all. They have it figured out. No matter where we are in history, they're never humble enough to understand we don't know everything right? And you're always learning, and you're always growing, right? And I think that's one of the biggest things, one of the bigger problems we have right, right now, right, right? So what's, how about the second one?

Terry Yoder 38:40
I don't remember what the second

Alex Ferrari 38:42
Humility. It was humility. It was discovering our own consciousness,

Terry Yoder 38:50
Yeah, connecting with, connecting with your consciousness and the consciousness of others. I think technology has done a lot of damage everybody if they don't have their cell phone or their iPad, they're kind of lost, and I feel like that's kind of distracted and taken the sensitivity out of people. Another example would be video games. I think video games have deadened people's I mean, oh, I killed 15 of them, and it deadens the the sentiment of what is actually real, and creates, or has created, a disconnect between people. And I believe that God wants us unified and not all running in 15 different directions.

Alex Ferrari 39:46
Yes, the thing I've been hearing lately is peak humanity. Have you heard of that term? When peak humanity was basically the 90s? That was where we popped. Now we're on a downward spiral. I don't believe that. I don't believe that we've hit peak humanity, right?

Terry Yoder 40:03
I don't either, there's always room to go up absolutely and I think we are going up. I think when we get there, it's going to be really, really, really good. But getting there, I think we're probably one of the hard headed species on the planet, in the universe. Yes, we're taking our sweet time. Yes.

Alex Ferrari 40:25
Do you believe that there's humanity right now. Seems to be going through a shift. There's no question about right. The energy of humanity, our consciousness is growing in in ways. People are awakening in ways. Shows like this. Have, you know, lot of eyeballs on it where this wouldn't have had any eyeballs on it 10 years ago, not nearly as many or 15 or 20 years ago, or when you were coming up in the 60s and 70s. Can you imagine a show like this? You imagine an open conversation like this? That would be insane? Yeah, you know, we would be thrown away. We'd be thrown at some sort of psycho, psycho ward. Exactly, you know what I mean? I mean, I remember watching the You remember Michael Jackson's Thriller? Do you remember the opening? The opening disclaimer, there was an opening this. This is how crazy people were. This is 80 What 84 I think it was when, I think so. When thriller showed up, it said, we this is not part of the occult. This is not devil like it was something along like, this is not because of zombies, because of zombies. Can you imagine?

Terry Yoder 41:37
And now we watch them on television series all the time, one another and doing all kinds

Alex Ferrari 41:44
Walking Dead all day. You know, it 10, 10, season, whatever it is, amount of seasons of it. It's one of the biggest shows ever, right? It's, it's fascinating how humanity goes. But you so you do agree that humanity is awakening and going, do you? How do you? How do you foresee us evolving is a general statement over the next few years, because we've had a rough five years. These have been since 2020. It's been a boy, been a wild ride.

Terry Yoder 42:12
I wish I knew the Timing on when and how things are going to be. I think, I think there's going to be some pain involved with this, but ultimately, I feel like people are it's like 911 when the buildings fell, everyone came together. I believe that it's going to incense. Maybe we're going to be forced to all come together and be unified. One thing that really concerns me is, I think we're coming to a place where we're not going to know what is and isn't true.

Alex Ferrari 42:49
Oh, I think we're getting to that place real quick, very quickly. That's interesting. So when you don't understand what's true or not, you have to with your eyes. You have to go in. You have to go in.

Terry Yoder 43:02
That's why it's so important for people to connect with their consciousness and to find their own manifestation and expression of their own spiritual gifts.

Alex Ferrari 43:12
It's interesting because, like, I'll look at an AI video, and I have a trained eye being in the film industry so long, so I can kind of sense. And I look at it, I'm like, Oh, I can see the those little things that don't make it human. But to the untrained eye, a lot of people are starting to buy a lot of this stuff. And this is just now, in six months, in a year or two, in five years, this stuff is going to be so good, it's going to be like you and me, all the nuances of your eyes twitching, you're moving, all the all the things that make us human are going to be emulated. But when you look at those videos, there is an energy associated to them. In my opinion, I'd love to hear you what you think that there is an energy to these videos. And you look at him, you're like, you just sense that, that that's not real. There's a deadness to them, right? Because it doesn't have soul, right? You know, like when you film something, there is energy in the filming of it, yes, the person filming it and the person in front of it, there is something there. I've been fooled a couple times, especially like with the when it's the security camera footage and like, there's a giant bear and this old ladies feeding the bear and the babies in front, and I'm like, is that an alligator coming up? Like, it gets so ridiculous. Like, it can't be real, right? But, man, it, it kind of fooled me. Just yeah, yeah, a little for a second or two, but you but there is no, there's no energy. Would you agree?

Terry Yoder 44:46
Yes, absolutely.

Alex Ferrari 44:48
The energy. So there is energy to all of that. So let me ask you, with all the with everything that's going on, what part of of the future with him? Humanity. Do you think technology will play because it's not going anywhere. AI is only going to get bigger and more part of our lives, very much like the internet did when it came out in the 90s. Now it's in every aspect of our lives. AI is going to do that much faster and much more all inclusive. I believe spiritually. Where do you think this is going to how is this going to help us or hurt us.

Terry Yoder 45:22
I'm not really sure, but I if I had to say something, I sense that it's going to it's going to help in a lot of ways, but it's also going to lead us to a sense of emptiness, and that emptiness, I think, is what's going to help open people's hearts and get them back into the human feeling, sensing, emotional part again.

Alex Ferrari 45:49
Is that is it kind of the reason why people are going back to vinyl and going back to tapes. They're going back to tapes, audio tapes. They're going back to VHS, which it's insane. Don't go back to VHS, please. I worked in a video store for a long time. Don't do this. But they're they want the textile. They want to feel again. They want to hold something right is it's a way to connect to something more organic than just a file in the cloud somewhere, is that kind of where we're at going?

Terry Yoder 46:23
Uh huh. And my sister, like my sister, says, I don't want to I don't want to do this to read a book. I want to hold the book. I want to smell the book. I want to turn the pages. I want to feel it.

Alex Ferrari 46:32
So the technology that's advancing so quickly, there'll be aspects of it that we will incorporate in our lives, but there'll be aspects that we'll reject, yes, because we want to connect to something.

Terry Yoder 46:43
There'll be aspects that some people reject, some people embrace, some people well, once people won't, AI is great. I mean, I use AI to perfect my writing. That's the only way that I use AI, yeah. So I'll write something and say, clean it up, and it cleans it up.

Alex Ferrari 47:00
It cleans it up. It's still your voice. It's still your soul. It's just like, it's an editor. It's essentially an editor for you, right? Like a book editor, right? It's, it's a weird and wacky place.

Terry Yoder 47:12
Yeah, we're right on a teetering, right on a precipice. Seems like,

Alex Ferrari 47:17
Do you believe that everyone who's been incarnated now at this time, did it by choice, because they wanted to be front row to arguably the greatest show in the universe at this point?

Terry Yoder 47:30
Yes, yeah, yes, yeah, Yes. I don't know what else to say about that.

Alex Ferrari 47:44
Well, let me ask you, what do you think is the greatest misconception people have about the work that you do?

Terry Yoder 47:52
That it's of the devil. Well, there's that, of course, and that I'm a cell phone to the other side and that, I guess, the biggest and the hardest part of it, Alex, is people wanting it the way they want it. I've had people I've had very disturbing experiences with people who are having connections with a loved one from the other side, and because of their own negative emotions involved, they will not I had a woman tell me, I'm not believing anything you say to me until you Tell me one specific word, and I'm like, Ma'am, your husband is telling you that you had a fight 10 minutes before he died, and he wants you to know that that doesn't exist anywhere except in your mind and your heart, and you need to let it go so he can connect with you and that You can be you can be connected on different planes. She got up and walked out of my house because it didn't come with one single word. One of the things that I try to let people know is come in with an open mind and listen closely, because sometimes it's the little things that are said in a reading that are the biggest proof. I mean the fact that, yeah, I picked up the fact that they had an argument 10 minutes before he passed away from a drug overdose, and I was absolutely accurate. Yes, she's angry, yes, she's carrying it that meant nothing. She wanted to hear the exact certain word. And hey, if you want to prove me wrong, you will

Alex Ferrari 49:55
What is also the biggest misconception people have of life on the other side from your understanding with dealing with these spirits.

Terry Yoder 50:02
A lot of people believe that it doesn't exist.

Alex Ferrari 50:05
Well, there's that, there's that,

Terry Yoder 50:07
I don't know how to answer that question. The first thing that comes to me is everything that happens in spirit happens in order. Just because they don't come through today in a reading doesn't mean that they're not there, or they're angry at you, or they don't want to talk to you, or I'm not psychic and not gifted as a medium, it just they didn't get a hall pass today.

Alex Ferrari 50:31
They just didn't show up. They didn't show up, or they didn't want to show up, right?

Terry Yoder 50:35
I mean, I have to prepare for readings, and the person who's having the reading. Really should prepare for the reading as well. Clear your heart. Get write down your questions. Get a get a point of focus. What's most important for you to talk about.

Alex Ferrari 50:52
They also that people always have this thing that they attach. They attach humaness to the spirit world, like, okay, is Uncle Bob? What is Uncle Bob doing today? Is he like on the golf course? Does he have a job? Does he have a cool apartment or a mansion somewhere? Like, they throw these things out there because they that's the only way their brains can kind of wrap around what's happening on the other side. But from my understanding, spirit is omnipresent, so they can have multiple like, That's why Jesus is at everybody's death experience, you know, because he could be at multiple places at the same time, because his over soul, if you will, there's and the same thing happens with us. Is that correct?

Terry Yoder 51:37
Yeah, I had a woman come through one time and say, now I can be anywhere I want, whenever I want, and as many places as I want at the same time. Interesting. Wow, that's incredible.

Alex Ferrari 51:53
Well, it seems to be like The Walking masters here. I've studied a lot of Eastern Eastern thought, Eastern philosophies and yogic philosophies, and that the yogis talked about bio location, that they could be at two places at the same time in the three dimensional world, that's kind of where you can be like you don't you can't do 400 of them, but you can maybe do one or two if your skills get to a certain place or a vibration frequency. Is that all make sense to you?

Terry Yoder 52:20
Yeah! It doesn't make sense. Absolutely. When I'm not there yet, I'm working on it,

Alex Ferrari 52:29
I'm actually in the other room running the cameras. Wow, it's pretty amazing, isn't it? And you've done how many readings in your lifetime?

Terry Yoder 52:44
Oh, Alex, 1000s, 1000s, 1000s.

Alex Ferrari 52:47
What is one that just sticks out that is like either the most, the strangest, the funniest, or the most transformative, or maybe all three, if you can think of the stories

Terry Yoder 52:57
The first one that comes to me is I was reading for a fellow, and he wanted to, he didn't like his job, and he wanted to start, he had a dream of starting a pizza place. And I said, six blocks to the east and three blocks to the south on the corner is the perfect space. And he went, and there was six blocks east and three blocks south was a place for rent, and he opened a pizza store, and it was hugely successful for the duration.

Alex Ferrari 53:33
Wow. I mean, pizza is good pizzas. So that was a success story.

Terry Yoder 53:39
And a funny story is, at that same house, I was doing a psychic readings for a group of people, and every time the door would open, there would be this little face peeking through at me. And when it was the day was over, the lady came in and she says, I know you're tired, but he is dying to ask you a question. This little four year old, three year old guy, and he comes running in and jumps up on my lap, and he says, Mr. Psychic man, did you know I like pickles? That was his question. And you know, that was as important to him as what anybody else received that day. So I'm like, No, I did not know you like pickles, but now I do.

Alex Ferrari 54:31
So it's a leading question. Yes, if you're gonna ask a psychic that question, like, what's my favorite food? That's the way you present that question if you're testing them not like do you know the pickles are my favorite food, right? I do now. Thank you for letting me know.

Terry Yoder 54:47
Bless this little heart.

Alex Ferrari 54:50
So, so Terry, with all the craziness that's happening in the world and with all the changes are happening, what is, in your opinion, the best way people can kind of prepare themselves for the massive. Awakenings and changes of consciousness that are happening and will continue to happen for the years to come. What can we do? Because it can be overwhelming the change. There's so much change so fast. I mean, AI is a perfect example. It's changing monthly, weekly. I mean, things that happened three months ago. You're like, well, that's old. It's fascinating. So that's just one aspect of it, but there's so much changes going on. What do you think?

Terry Yoder 55:25
With me I'm really working on not reacting, because if you react, they've got you and going to that still, still soft place inside and okay, this is what I'm feeling. This is what my reaction wants to do. But what is it that I'm supposed to do? What is best for me to do? What am I supposed to be feeling about this? How am I supposed to act on this again. It's that connection to the consciousness. Instead of just going off and act reacting.

Alex Ferrari 56:04
It's about going in. It's always about going with him.

Terry Yoder 56:07
And this is the hardest place to go for a lot of people. It brought a lot of trauma to the surface. All this stuff was dormant. Anything that was dormant or shoved down, it brought it right to the top. Now you're hearing trauma, trauma, trauma, trauma, trauma, PTSD, these types of terms are being thrown around even more than ever.

Alex Ferrari 56:29
If spirit could talk directly to the audience listening right now and who will be listening in the future, what message would would spirit like to give

Terry Yoder 56:36
One of the biggest blocks of people and their ability to connect with others on the other side is emotion, not the physical things that happen, the disagreements, the upsets, the discords at the point of death, none of that exists. It's the emotions of the living, the grief, the anger, the fear that prevent people from connecting. But feel yourself to return to your heart, become reconnected to your source, and grow your own consciousness. Ask for clear discernment and take the necessary actions when it feels to be the correct time to do so. Exude love, joy, peace, be patient and gentle and kind with one another.

Alex Ferrari 57:21
Beautifully said. Beautifully said, Where, Terry, where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing in the world?

Terry Yoder 57:30
I am at terryyoder.com, that's terryyoder.com,. You can get my phone number from there. You can schedule appointments there. I'm doing appointments. I also have spiritual classes coming up in January. So I do teach tarot, and I teach people in a way that they connect with their own intuition and read the cards their own way. There's not one way to do it. If there's 11 billion people on the planet, whatever. There's 11 billion pathways. So I try to tune in and allow people to grow and develop in their own way. So terryyoder.com,,

Alex Ferrari 58:12
When you say tarot, the Tarot, you say Tarot. But is it Tarot or Tarot?

Terry Yoder 58:16
I say Tarot because I'm a French major.

Alex Ferrari 58:19
Got it! Okay! So I'll go along with it. Tarot cards. To my understanding, tarot cards are, you know, you shuffle them, you put them out, and then whatever, you flip you kind of like, that's what spirit is trying to talk to whoever's reading them. So you get the death card, you know, the Cubs card, or whatever the you know, the golden cups, or anything like that is there is that kind of the way it works. And then if you're a psychic, you can actually read into it a little bit more. How does that work?

Terry Yoder 58:52
When someone comes in, well, I don't come in anymore, but when I do a reading, I mix the cards to clear all the messages off, and then I ask the person to focus on what they want to know, and then I mix in proxy for them, and I ask them to tell me when to stop. That's how I get their interaction. When they tell me to stop, I lay the cards out on the table. Each position represents a certain factor of life, so present, present. Surroundings, goal and destiny, hopes, wishes, dreams, fears, distant past, recent past, near future. Near Future progressed. Near Future surroundings progressed, emotions and final outcome, depending on what card falls in what position and closest to one another, it tells a story so a lot of times the cards become a storyboard for me, and then as I'm looking at the cards, I'll be drawn to something like, I'll be drawn to the bull on the face of the card. May sign of Taurus. May I'll be drawn to the easterlies. Oh. Okay, March, April, time period. Just things come to life, and story comes up, and I I let it loose, I tell it

Alex Ferrari 1:00:10
So, if so, if somebody was going to do their own, can they read themselves?

Terry Yoder 1:00:16
Some people are very good at reading themselves. I am not good at reading myself. Okay, I'm too invested in my stuff, but yeah, there are people who do read for themselves. It's a good way to start, and Tarot is a good way to start to develop and to develop your intuition and your connection with yourself

Alex Ferrari 1:00:40
Before we close, Terry, would you be open to offering kind of a brief blessing or message for everyone watching now and moving forward?

Terry Yoder 1:00:50
It's my hope that everyone finds their way, that everyone sees their direction, that everyone finds their love, their joy, their hope, their peace, and that they share it.

Alex Ferrari 1:01:05
Terry, it has been such a pleasure having you on the show. Thank you so much for this conversation. It is You are a beautiful energy, my friend. So thank you. Thank you so much for being here and for helping awaken the planet. So I appreciate it.

Terry Yoder 1:01:18
You're very welcome. Thank you for having me.