Doctor REVEALS the MYSTICAL & SPIRITUAL Side of Children with AUTISM SPECTRUM DISORDER (ASD) with Suzy Miller

Suzy Miller 0:00
I saw this little boy walking around in the room, and then I saw his light body floating above his physical body. And I had never seen anything like that before. I'm, you know, education based, science based, you know, never saw anything like that, rubbing my eyes trying to get it to go away. And it doesn't go away. And so I asked, you know, the logical question to myself, it's like, what the heck am I seeing like? What is that? And I heard this little boy's voice in my head, and he said, That's my light body. You're here to put my light body back into my physical body. And I had no idea what he meant. I had no idea how to do that, or what why he thought I might have a master in that, but I just remember leaving that day and sitting in my car and thinking, My life just changed.

Alex Ferrari 0:54
I like to welcome to the show. Suzy Miller, how you doing Suzy?

Suzy Miller 1:08
Good Alex, how are you?

Alex Ferrari 1:10
I am doing so so good. I am. I've been looking forward to this conversation because we have never had anybody in the show to talk specifically about souls who are on on the spectrum or artistic, and is one of the biggest questions I get asked by my audience, is about the spiritual, the spirituality, the spiritual aspects of those, those challenges in this world, or maybe not challenges, depending on the point of view of what you're looking at. But before we dive in, what got you started in this in this world, what got you started in your line of work?

Suzy Miller 1:46
I had a kind of, you know, kind of mind blowing experience back in 99 I was a pediatric speech language pathologist. Had a private practice in the state of Maine, went to see a new kid that was just placed on my caseload, and he was in a daycare center, and I walk in and mind you, I graduated with my master's degree in 1986 so there was no conversation about autism, there was no education, there was no nothing. It was like one in 10,000 at that point. So I walked into this daycare center, and I see this little kid, a, you know, big brown eyes, little bowl haircut, walking around, and he's saying, it's the millennium, it's 1999 and I just looked at him. I thought, kind of strange little kid, right? You know, just and then he walked right up to me. He made direct eye contact with me, which, you know, later I learned is not common, and he said, Master. And when he said, Master, my whole nervous system did something. I mean, I could literally feel something move through me. And I was a little confused, and I said to myself, who's the master here, you know, is what was going through my head. I took him back in the back of the daycare center, closed the door. Didn't really know what to do with them, because I didn't have training, you know, with autistic individuals. So I sat down, you know, by the door so he couldn't get out, basically, and he's walking around going, it's the millennium. It's 1999 and so I was just going to give him some time to get to know me. And then all of a sudden, I had that moment where I I saw this little boy walking around in the room, and then I saw his light body floating above his physical body. And I had never seen anything like that before. I'm, you know, education based, science based, you know, never saw anything like that, rubbing my eyes trying to get it to go away. And it doesn't go away. And so I asked, you know, the logical question to myself. It's like, what the heck am I seeing like? What is that? And I heard this little boy's voice in my head, and he said, That's my light body. You're here to put my light body back into my physical body. And I had no idea what he meant. I had no idea how to do that, or what why he thought I might have a master in that. But I just remember leaving that day and sitting in my car and thinking, My life just changed. It's like and he took me through this, like year long process where he was coming to me in my dreams. He was telepathically talking to me in my head, he was telling me basically how to take him from being kind of semi verbal to being completely verbal. And we went through that year long process at the same time. I have new guides coming in. I have all kinds of. Things happening. And at the end of that year, he was fully verbal, so that kind of started it. And once that happened, it was like then my whole caseload got bombarded with kids on the spectrum, not because I went looking for them, they just seemed to be finding me. And the more I worked with them, the more I realized that every single one of them was telepathic. I was interacting with all of them. They were telling me what to say, what to do, what to tell their parents, what not to tell their parents. And I just was really I was just a really good listener, I guess. And I listened, and have been telling people for the last, you know, 25-30, years, what the kids are saying. And seems to work out so,

Alex Ferrari 5:57
Suzy, I have to ask you, as the the elephant in the room. Did you think you were going crazy? I mean, coming from a, coming from a scientific background, what? How did you psychologically deal with this?

Suzy Miller 6:11
Not well. Alex, really not well. I mean, and not only did I not deal well, but you know, it's like I was married at the time. I had four little kids. My youngest daughter was two, my oldest daughter was 10. So I mean, I had a very kind of mainstream life at that time, and so all of a sudden, when this is all happening. I mean, not only did I think I was going crazy, but a lot of other people thought of us as well, because I would just say, oh my gosh, these kids aren't who we think they are. These kids are much more when than we perceive them to be, and we are much more than we perceive ourselves to be. And the more I was talking like that, you know, American Speech and Hearing Association was like, you can't say those kind of things. And, yeah, so it was, it was very challenging for quite some time, and especially getting bombarded. Like, I always say it's like, he put a key in the lock and he opened something, and once he opened it, like everything that I had available to me, felt like it all came flooding in all the same time. Yeah, yeah, it was a lot.

Alex Ferrari 7:30
So when did you decide to come out of this closet, this new spiritual closet, to in your practice, publicly talking about this, because it's one thing to do it quietly with with your patients. And you know, you could just, you could have done this work quietly with your patients, and really never make this public like you could just, oh, it's just a thing. I've had doctors on the show who, who could tell they were being guided. Oh, this person has their spleen is about the barrister. And they would go, how did you know that? And he would never say anything until he retired, because he would have been, he wouldn't have been able to do the work anymore. If he would have said, Oh yeah, Jesus was guiding me on how to save me. So how did you navigate those waters?

Suzy Miller 8:19
You know, it's like I was so excited. I mean, I'm a naturally curious person, and I was so excited by what I was learning. So at first I just started telling people that I thought could hear it. My kids went to a Waldorf school at the time, and so, you know that particular community is fairly open anyway, so I thought I could tell them. So I started telling them, and as I started telling them, they started bringing their kids to me. And so I kind of went from having, like a full time speech pathology practice to a full time healing practice or integration practice within that same year, so it was a lot, and lots of people were coming in and wanting me to, you know, their kids weren't necessarily autistic, but they were wanting me to tell them things about their children and that kind of stuff. And that went on for a while, and but then I started hearing people in the community like saying, well, Susie said this about my kid, or Susie said that about my kid. And I thought, I'm all done. It's like, I don't. It just unnerved me that people were using this information about who their children really were to kind of separate and divide, because it was the complete antithesis of what these kids on the spectrum were talking to me about. So it got to I went to work for as a lead therapist for a therapy company, and I was telling her about my experience. And she said, you have to write that book. And I thought, You know what I kind of do? I have for my own sanity, I have to write that book. So I wrote awesomeism a new way to understand the diagnosis of autism. Put it out in 2008 and I did it, Alex, really just because I wanted that story out and off my chest. I wanted it I did my thing. You know, I knew that I was being pushed or guided in a new direction, but it was like, Okay, did my thing here. I'll put the book out. Now, everybody knows what that experience was like, but once I put it out, I was blown away because people from all over the world started contacting me, and they were saying, Susie, we know, I know these things about these kids too, or I've had these weird experiences with them as well telepathic communication and healing and all this stuff that happens in their presence. And then they started asking me to do some training, like some professional training. And I'm real resistant, Alex, you'll hear it. And I honestly, I thought, Okay, I'll train 12 people. You know, 12 people, that's what I'll do. And so I trained this first 12 and 300 people later, you know, it's like, we went through this. People were just contacting from all over the place, so, and I kept hearing the kids like they would giggle. They would just kind of like, Yeah, you think you're done, but you're not done, you know? And they would just keep moving this along. So yeah,

Alex Ferrari 11:43
And you, and you said that there was a organization that said you couldn't say something. Who? What was that organization?

Suzy Miller 11:49
Well, the American Speech and Hearing Association, which is the organization that speech pathologists belong to. Of course, you know, you couldn't. You couldn't be an intuitive at that time. I don't know what it's like now, because I dropped my license and all that, but you couldn't be an intuitive and be a licensed pediatric speech pathologist at the same time. You couldn't put those two things together on website. So at some point, you know, in 2008 it was clear that there was conversation to be had that was beyond speech language pathology. So that's what they did.

Alex Ferrari 12:31
So let's dive into this. Because, you know, I've known a few people on the spectrum. It seems like there's so many. What is it now? One out of how many?

Suzy Miller 12:43
One in 43 give or take.

Alex Ferrari 12:46
And it used to be one out of 10,000 what I have to ask you, from your perspective, on your spiritual perspective and clinical perspective, why do you think there's been such a rise? I know that's a loaded question, and if it just was, I'm just curious.

Suzy Miller 13:02
Yeah, I again, there's multiple dimensions in multiple layers to this conversation on, uh, I would say on a spiritual level, these kids started coming in in mass because collective humanity called for a new type of human, literally called for a new, you know, a new being. And a lot of these kids, especially at the very beginning, statistically, it was four to one. There were four males to one female and and that, in and of itself, was a big change, because, you know, we had all these kids coming in in male bodies, but that were highly intuitive, highly connected to other realms and other realities. And so that, in of itself, was a huge shift from the old patriarchal kind of reality. And so there's that. The other side of it is, I've had a lot of kids over the years just flat out say to me that the toxicity in the physical human environment was something that was very challenging for their highly refined, energetic fields.

Alex Ferrari 14:22
I don't know if you've heard of the concept of the soul blueprint,

Suzy Miller 14:25
Yes

Alex Ferrari 14:26
Or the soul, the soul plan. And many, and many people have asked me this question, like, why would anyone want to come down as someone on the spectrum or autistic? Because of the challenges, the massive challenges depending on where you are on that spectrum, in this reality and in this in this environment, and even depending on the country that you are born into, it just varies so much of the kind of support, kind of understanding and so on that happens. You know, country to country, culture to culture. Sure. Why would anyone want to come in and do that? I'd love to hear your thoughts from a spiritual perspective.

Suzy Miller 15:07
You know, the soul makes all kinds of choices. We all make all kinds of choices that we think are really good, the ideas from the soul perspective. And then we get into the physical perspective, and we find out it's much more challenging than we might have thought. But over and over again, asking 1000s and 1000s of these kids that same question, they are coming in for a variety of reasons. One, most of them are here. Their soul blueprint is designed to help clean up a lineage, right? So they come into different lineages, and they're going to stay up and out of their bodies, just so, so that the people that are their parents, the people that have come before them, are going to have to clean up their own stuff, their own patterning, their own. And once that really starts happening, the kids start descending, you might say, or showing up in their bodies. So they've told me they've come in for their lineages. They've told me they've come in for the greater good of humanity. They've told me that many of the souls that I've worked with over the years anyway, that those souls haven't been able to be in a physical body since the time of Lemuria. And when we were at the time of Lemuria, we had bodies of light, so the soul vibration and the physical vibration were much more attuned. So they've, they've they've come in for all kinds of reasons, but the moment that we really start appreciating them at a soul level, and the choice that they made, I mean, it is a hard choice. It's a it's a hard choice, not just for them, but it's a hard choice for everybody that's involved with them, and at the same time, I've never seen a population of parents who have chosen to fast track themselves so significantly on This spiritual journey, because if they utilize what their children are actually bringing, as far as their own evolution. It's, it's pretty profound, what can happen.

Alex Ferrari 17:32
So when you, when you're speaking to a child on the spectrum, at the at a soul level, you know, you know, one thing I found very fascinating about children on the spectrum and people on the spectrum is they're generally the nicest and the best people, you know,

Suzy Miller 17:50
Yeah, you know, hanging out with them.

Alex Ferrari 17:53
Yeah, they are just like the best all the time. And they because there is no second agenda. There is no it's just they are as raw and straightforward, you know, as you could possibly. Like a child is pretty straightforward, but a child on the spectrum is there is no no blockage, no filter. Thank you, no filter whatsoever. And they seem to always be the best people that you know. They have an effect on the people around them in a way that I have not seen, other than in highly evolved spiritual beings, yogis, mystics, people like that. When you meet someone like that. And I've had the I've had the opportunity to meet people at that the energy of the room changes. The energy between the communications change. I've seen glimpses of that. When you interact with children on the spectrum or people in the spectrum, would you agree?

Suzy Miller 18:55
100% and I describe them that way all the time. It's That's exactly it. It's, if you have a soul that's come in with a very high vibrational frequency, that soul is going to shift the space there, there. I've watched it firsthand, both in my own personal experience, but with other people as well. I've watched people like, put their put their head in the lap of a a young woman diagnosed with autism, and like, floods of tears coming out, you know, watching it multi dimensionally and watching all that energy shift for that individual. So there's no doubt in my mind, and especially by what they say, Alex, like, what they share with me, I mean the capacity, the multi dimensional capacity, the awareness of what they're doing in other worlds, in other realms and and right here in this. Physical world, this physical realm as well. It just, it's mind blowing. I mean, I'm somebody who gets really easily bored, and I have not been bored for one with this population. It's kept me going for a really long time for that very reason. It's, it's like being in the presence of the Divine.

Alex Ferrari 20:22
Yeah, is so from my understanding of the soul, the soul can fragment itself in an infinite fashion. That's why I always say Jesus is the hardest working man at show business, because he's always had everyone's near death experience, and he's all over the place, doing all sorts of things. Our soul, to my understanding, all of our lifetimes are happening at the same time, and our souls are experiencing everything at the same time. So what you're explaining with these children is that their soul is partly here, but they're doing work a bunch of different other places, in this reality, in this time frame, not even another lifetime, just within this time frame there. Oh, I'm over here. I'm at this I'm at this level. I'm in the astral realm. I'm doing this kind of work, and they're working behind the scenes, as well as being in this space here, correct?

Suzy Miller 21:14
100% so an example of that is, I have a young woman who I worked with off and on, and her mother contacted me one day, and she said, My daughter's asking that first session. She doesn't want you to tell her to not do what she's doing. She wants you to help her be better at doing what she's doing. I said, Okay, what is that? And she said she's completely aware that she supports children who are being abused, so not in the physical world, but it's almost like when those souls call out for assistance, she's one of those that answers the call, yeah. And so I was like, okay, so we worked energetically. She told me what to do. I supported her in that process. And I was telling her at one point, this just blew my mind. But I was telling her at one point, I said, you know, I said, it's really interesting to me that in this lifetime, you do not have your physical voice, but what you're showing me energetically, multi dimensionally, is it's like you're going to be the voice for these kids when they need it the most. And she was telling me, especially during covid, that she had so many more souls reaching out to her, because, you know, people were closed in. They weren't going to school, they were so there was a lot more of that going on. So we did that energy work. And I said, It's just strange to me that, you know, you don't have your voice, but you're going to be that voice. And then I said to her, I go, it's like this. I said, it's like, when I was really young, I had an experience where somebody was kind of being aggressive towards me and and for whatever reason, I got up in that moment, poked him in the chest and said, You have no idea who you're dealing with. And I ran off and and I said to her, it's like, you're going to be like, that kind of voice. And then Alex, all of a sudden, I had this moment, and I thought, wait a minute, it's like, I asked her, I said, was that you? I said, you're 16. Now, I was 16. Then I said, makes no sense, but was that you? And she spells to communicate, and she types out on this board, and then her mother reads it back, and her mother was repeating what she had typed out, and she said, in a body or out of a body, I have always known that I'm here to support humanity's children, and I was happy to be of service to you. I was like, in floods of tears. You know, it's like, so if somebody doesn't, if she hadn't helped me, then I probably wouldn't be helping her now, and she wouldn't be going on to help. I mean, this is what I'm saying. It's like never a dull moment with this population.

Alex Ferrari 24:32
I could see that, I could see that one thing that from my research and my studies in the guards of spiritual evolution is that we need to learn to quiet the noise, quiet the mind, and detach a bit more from the physical and connect more inward to who you truly are, and that for a normal. Person walking around is difficult. It's not easy, but it seems that they come in kind of free, wired to not be as connected to this reality, the physical reality, as much and be much more connected to the in word, world inside of them, their soul and their higher divine connection. Just like a child, when they're born, they're so close to source that they're so joyful and beautiful and and as they get older, we start shoving all this programming into them and like and societal stuff and all that. And then as adults, we forget where we came from. And is that make any sense to you?

Suzy Miller 25:46
Yes, it makes perfect sense. And I think for the most part, that is exactly the way it is. What I would add to that is that, because the kids hang out where they hang out, kind of energetically, because they're not fully connected in the physical realm. One of the first energetic realms that they can interface with is the emotional body realm. And so on the one hand, that's great because it gives them a lot of information about what they're coming into. But on the other hand, that same kind of information can be very dysregulating to the nervous system of these kids. And so a lot of times, you know, we look at these kids and we go, okay, you're not functioning very well here, or you look dysregulated. It's not so much that their fields are dysregulated, it's just that they're making this merge. They're coming into that field of the collective emotional body, or their parents emotional body, or the lineage, and that emotional body is fairly distorted for most humans, you know that emotional body, we were never taught how to be authentic, how to how to be real with our emotions, how to feel who we actually where we actually are in that moment. And so the kids come in and they have that interface so they know where their parents are and where humanity is, which is great information, but that same information can really start dysregulating their fields. So one of the very first things the kids said is was like, okay, you know, I've seen enough of you guys now I've heard the same thing over and over again. If I'm going to say one thing to your parents, one things to the professionals that work with you, what is it you want me to say? And they said, to get real, to be authentic. They said, We don't care how anybody feels. We care that they know how they feel, because if they know how they feel, then they're starting down that road of personal awareness, personal development,

Alex Ferrari 28:11
Self realization, right?

Suzy Miller 28:12
Self realization, exactly. And then we don't have to feel like we have to show them that dysregulation, right? So, so we started just really having conversations with people about, let's get real. It's like, it's hard, it's overwhelming. How do you feel about being the parent of this child, or, How do you feel about being the professional associated with this child. It's like, not what you think people are you're supposed to say, but let's be, let's just be, you know, just real authentic about this. And usually they cry and they get that out. It's like, sometimes nobody's ever asked them at that Alex, it's like they can see it clearly. It's a challenging position, but until you have permission, in some ways, to feel what you feel about that that energy just stays bound up. But once it's released, it's like all of a sudden the kids start showing them, you might say, different behaviors, different experiences. They're having different experiences with their kids than they had before.

Alex Ferrari 29:30
There's a there's a show I'm sure you're very well aware of on Netflix, Love on the Spectrum. Yes, that came from Australia, and they did now the US versions of it, and it's one of my favorite shows of all time. I just love love because it's this. There's such purity in what they looking for love. But would you agree that that show, specifically, and because of the reach of Netflix, has really. Normalized and help people access people on the spectrum in a different way, relate to them in a different way, as opposed to the Olden ways of like, you know, before they're like, they're just crazy. That was, that was a diagnosis back in the day. They're not, yeah, but put them in, put them in the loony bin. That's what it was, unfortunately. But now it's, it's, if we're evolving, thank God a little bit, but it seems to have, like, normalized a little bit the way people react to them. How would you what would you say?

Suzy Miller 30:32
It's it humanized them.

Alex Ferrari 30:34
Humanized. That's the word I was looking for.

Suzy Miller 30:35
It really it. It let people know that regardless of how somebody is functioning externally, they still have feelings. They still seek the same things that other human beings seek. They're still there's, yeah, they're still wanting to make those kinds of connections. And I think it also shows how hard they try in order to make those connections. You know, it's a real effort. You know, if you can't speak, or if your body's dysregulated, it's it's really hard to interact, and they make a huge effort every single day to do that on a very human level. So I love that Netflix. I mean, my youngest daughter actually brought that to me. She goes, Mom, have you seen this yet? Because we've watched hours of it together.

Alex Ferrari 31:34
Oh yeah. So good. The Australian one and then the US one is absolutely, absolutely amazing. Now for parents of children on the spectrum, what can they do to nurture their spiritual growth? Because that's not something I've heard people are so focused on just dealing with the physical aspects of things I really never heard of anyone like, what about the spiritual journey of this, of this soul, of this being who is going through this, you know, through the challenges, depending on where you are in the spectrum. What do you say to parents about who are interested and want to nurture their spiritual growth?

Suzy Miller 32:17
Well, there's a couple different things. I mean, back to what we were just talking about this, the whole thing about emotional awareness. I mean, I truly believe that our lives are all beautifully set up for each and every one of us with the trials and the tribulations as well as the, you know, the successes. I think our lives are set up so that we can meet those experiences. And I talk a lot with parents about mirroring. I talk a lot about the concept of having things reflected back, unintegrated aspects of ourselves reflected back. There's a brilliant book that everybody who knows me gets a little tired of me saying the same thing over and over again, but the presence process by Michael Brown, I refer a lot of people to that, and we do a lot of that kind of work in what I offer as well. Because the fact is, is that, you know, we could spend the rest of our life just being present to the triggers that arise for us, and we would be evolving exponentially. You know, it's like we can use practical life, daily life experience for our own evolutionary process. And when parents really begin to understand one, they wouldn't have this kind of challenge if they didn't also have the chops to meet it, you know, the capacity to meet it. And once we start showing people this is how we can meet it. Here's, you know, we're triggered a million times a day. Everybody is and with parents of kids on the spectrum or even professionals that are working with them, the very fact that these kids are coming in at a higher frequency and are rubbing up against those places that are unintegrated within ourselves, gives us one opportunity after another to meet that with some degree of love and compassion, and when we get into a rhythm of meeting those triggers in that way, I mean, I'm just amazed, Alex, at watching parents and professionals evolve just because they're hanging out with these kids and start really understanding how to use their daily lives with them, to Yeah, to spiritually evolve.

Alex Ferrari 34:59
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Now have you run into any children on the spectrum who have special abilities like a psychic or a medium or channeling or things, because it sounds like that, but, but actually has those specific things that unless they're speaking to someone like you would, would go undiagnosed or unnoticed. You can't explain exactly what it is. And have you found anything like that?

Suzy Miller 36:04
There are so many. Alex, I was just speaking with a woman not too long ago that his there's a woman who put out a film named Kai Dickens that she just put out a film that she did with a woman named Dr Diane Powell who did research on basically mind reading and kids on the spectrum. She was, you know, a Harvard graduate who did all of these research projects, and Kai did the film about it. And so one we know that you know anytime, like a blind person usually has a greater sense of touch, a greater sense of smell, right? So if you have somebody who's non verbal, or primarily non verbal, it makes sense that that kid is going to have a greater ability to be telepathic or to read minds, or to do those kinds of things, and that's exactly what they're proving so but there are also other kids that I've worked with over the years who it's not, I wouldn't call it so much. We could call it channeling, but I wouldn't call it so much channeling, because it's almost like you said, just like that, that baby who's still connected with all that they are and is just letting that flow. It's kind of like with these kids. There's so many kids who are writing blogs, singing songs, creating pieces of art, and you could say that that's all channeled information, but from my vantage point, they're just not shut down to who they are in truth.

Alex Ferrari 37:50
Which is, which is interesting, because I think the thing that stops us from connecting to who we truly are is all the kind of googly glob and garbage that we kind of get into this. In this reality, there's a, I'm sure you know this, this man who, he's on the spectrum, and he can just look at a skyline and instantly, with detail, draw it out just once, one helicopter ride comes back and draws an entire mural around the room of the entire skyline, in detail that tells me, and there's so many other examples, I mean, Rain Man being one of the biggest, most famous examples, then that was kind of the first major thing that, that that was introduced to society, really, because it was really kind of quiet before, Before, Rain Man that that movie, someone who was autistic, but this, it's, and I hate to use the word superpower, but the but we are all capable of doing this. The brain is capable of doing this. The mind is capable of doing this. We're able to tap into things if we allow, if we allow it. And they kind of come pre programmed in a way to allow that superpower to come in, because they're impenetrable to the outside forces, because it just doesn't get in to pollute that does that make sense?

Suzy Miller 39:13
It makes perfect sense. And the and and also the very ways in which their brains are wired. You know, we we talk about neuro diversity and all this. And you know, most people who have some kind of unusual like, say, multi dimensional skill set or have a savant kind of skill set, you know, they have a neuro diversity. And that neurodiversity kind of sets us up for having skill sets that maybe that neurotypical individual doesn't have. So absolutely, those savant skills are there, and that's what most people focus on. And then if a. Child doesn't have a savant skill. That's where a lot of these kids kind of get shut down. That's where a lot of these kids get put into this box of, well, you're not you're autistic, you're not a savant, you don't have this superpower that is overt, that neurotypical individuals can put a sticker on or a star on, and yet that same population that where those skill sets are hidden, those are the multi dimensional skill sets of healing and telepathy and the capacity to know the future to mind read. Those are the things that most people don't talk about. What they talk about is the savannah aspects, the physical skills, right? And and yet, that's why I love this new film that they did. And I was in tears when I saw it, because I'd like, Oh my gosh. Finally, you know, it's being put out into the world that this isn't that this is a savant skill as well, but because it's one that most people don't typically even consider possible. You know, these kids are in people's lives all day, every day, and so many are missing what's sitting right in front of them. Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 41:28
There is. And I love the way you've kind of put those in two camps, the physical savant aspects of things, which is what you know, the Rain Man aspect of things, the the the superpowers, if you will, that that fascinates us, but this other stuff, which is more esoteric and more spiritual, that you can't grab it, you can't grab onto it. So it's kind of like just put in another box out that way. I just want to hear your point of view on this. Geniuses throughout history, absolute geniuses, the Einsteins, the Teslas, they, they seem to have had been on a spectrum of some sort, because even even today, even people who are at a high level of genius, of intellectual, knowledge and insight, they cannot deal with, as they call them, normies, us normal people because they have no emotional IQ. They don't understand how to deal with regular world. Is this a form of the spectrum of being on the spectrum?

Suzy Miller 42:41
Yeah. I mean, I honestly, I think that we are all on the spectrum. I think that, I think that there's we're all from neurodiversity, you know, to the normies, you know, we're all somewhere on the spectrum of the way our the way our brains work, the way our consciousness interfaces with that neurology, the way, the way we see the world, right, the lens that we see it through. And so, yeah, absolutely, it's, it's the capacity that each one of these souls bring and the way in which they interface with the world that makes them so unique. And the Teslas and the Einsteins, you know, again, clearly, there was some kind of neurodiversity there that allowed them to again, they both talked about channeling information, like letting that information just flow through them. And to your point earlier, there was a they're not as concerned with what everybody else is thinking about them. They're in the flow of their own awareness, their own consciousness, and letting that just come out. It's, yeah, I think it's a varying degrees of that neurodiversity.

Alex Ferrari 44:10
And I mean, Da Vinci is another great example, Michelangelo. I mean, yeah, you know, then you start getting into Socrates and Plato, possibly, you know, these kind of, these kind of individuals throughout history is fascinating. Susie, I have to ask you parents listening to this, because they're going to be parents of people on the spectrum listening to this. What advice do you have for them if they're struggling with their with their child, they're concerned, they want to be the best they can for them, how to if they're struggling personally with the situation, or if the child is struggling, what advice do you have for them in dealing with that struggle? And that's a very large question, but anything that you can give,

Suzy Miller 44:57
I think, first, they just need to. Know, I know it feels like it's a very disempowering experience, but I really want those individuals to know just what a powerful, powerful position they are actually in. So first, let's not listen to every professional out there that tells you who your child is not. Let's start finding people who are telling you what your child is, because I think the moment that we start looking at capacity, you know difference versus disorder, then you really get to start to value the difference. And there's not a human being on this planet that doesn't want to be valued for their uniqueness. And so the minute, we kind of shift that perspective a little bit and kind of go, okay, what are you doing instead of what you're not doing? That's a great place to start. The other thing, I would say is we do really want to get real with how we feel about how challenging this situation can actually be, because just you know, you know, tears soothe the soul, yeah, and the more we can kind of get that information up and out. The more the parents nervous system is more regulated, and the more the parent system is more regulated, the more the kid will mirror that back to them, right? And so those are really great opportunities. And I, I would say it's like, there are communities out there, you know? I mean, ours is one of them, but there are more and more communities all the time that are really talking about these kids from the capacity. And I think it's really important that we shut off some of the noise, of all that can't happen, won't happen, can't do it and really start connecting with other people who have already kind of adopted a new way of viewing their children. Because we all need community. We all need to be buffered up and supported. You know, as we move into a new way of being with these kids,

Alex Ferrari 47:26
Now, what have you had any experience with meditation and kids on the spectrum? Is that something that is is possible, is it? Are you using it as a tool mindfulness and meditation?

Suzy Miller 47:40
I do use it, but I use it honestly, more with the parents than I do with the kids themselves. That makes perfect sense, more with the professionals than I do, because again, I always tell people who work with the kids, these children are vibration first, they're so tuned into vibration, so tuned in that very often, they're showing us aspects of ourselves that we don't even know are there. And they also are showing us not where we are right here in this moment, as adults who have matured and can rationalize things, they're showing us some of the unintegrated aspects of our earlier experience. When I very first start working with these kids, Alex, one of the things that was so challenging is every time I was in their presence, I was like feeling some challenge. I was feeling some old wound come to the surface. And for a long time, I didn't even want to be with them, because I was I was associating being in their presence with having some of this stuff come up. And then they started saying it's coming up for a reason, if you'll, if you'll let it come up, and if you'll be present to it, if you'll be compassionate to that part of yourself, loving to yourself that will neutralize, we won't show you that piece anymore, right? And you will have grown and evolved. So it's like, I I get it, you know? I get how challenging it is. I talk to parents all day, every day, and it's, you can just see the struggle that's there. And at the same time, there is, there's a depth available within these relationships that, yeah, I don't think you can get most places.

Alex Ferrari 49:54
Fair enough, fair enough.

Suzy Miller 49:55
Not sure if I answered your question, but,

Alex Ferrari 49:57
Yeah, yeah, , absolutely, absolutely. I. Yeah, what are the most common misconceptions that people have about children in the spectrum?

Suzy Miller 50:08
The most common misconceptions are definitely that they are not in there, or they're not they're not present, they don't have their own thoughts and their feelings. I think it's also a misconception that they don't want to be here, yeah, or they're just being challenging. None of that is true. I It blows my mind that these souls even attempt to be here at all. You know, it's like, it's a big deal that they're here in mass at this time. And I also think that, you know, one of the things that really came about was spelled to communicate, or other kind of Facilitated Communication. So for a long time, for the first 10 years of working with the kids, it was all telepathic, right? And so I'm hoping that I'm doing the best job I can, articulating what they're sharing with me. But then all of a sudden, spell to communicate, facilitated communication. These different modes of typing came about. And then all of a sudden, the kids were starting to tell people what they were sharing telepathically before, but now they could actually type it out. And I think right there, you know, we we look at somebody who's not functioning very well in a body, and we, we assume incompetence, right? We assume that if they can't speak, that they're not thinking about the profound things that they're thinking about, and that they don't have awareness and access to things, not just like neurotypical individuals do, but far beyond that. But when spell to communicate and those kinds of things started coming about, it's like, oh my gosh. Not only are people parents finding out what their kids really know what they have access to, but even the fact that this child that they didn't think could read or write or anything else can spell and has been able to do that the whole time. I mean, I have kids who speak understand multiple languages, Alex, that have never been taught multiple languages, but you can ask them a question in different languages, and they answer you

Alex Ferrari 52:46
Where are they getting the information? And the thing is, where are they getting that information?

Suzy Miller 52:52
Multi dimensional connections. They have access to all kinds of different information fields that the neurotypical individual that's kind of locked down into their conditioning, just doesn't have they don't have that name. So it's coming from everywhere.

Alex Ferrari 53:13
It almost sounds like it sounds reminiscent of a near death experience. I'm not sure how familiar you are with near death experiencers, but when they are on the other side, there's downloads that come in, and their capability of understanding accessing information and understanding them is instantaneous and then so large that they can't bring it back with them. You know, they're like, oh, quantum physics. Oh, that's what that is. And they get the answers on the other side, and they a lot of times, can't bring it back because this, this this hardware, can't gasp it, grasp it. But it seems almost like a connection where they have the access to a lot of of that information that's out there, in the in the in the quantum field and the Akashic records, all that kind of stuff out there, but they have access to it here because they're not using this hardware. They're connecting directly to the cloud this, if that makes any sense,

Suzy Miller 54:19
Yes. So yes, and think about doesn't it make sense that if, if someone had access to so much more information, you know, multi dimensionally, inter dimensionally, they have so much more access, doesn't it make sense that having so much of that might be a little bit dysregulating. Can you write, I mean, of course, yeah. I mean, and so and in some ways, they are trying to use their human neurological hardware, but because of the volume of information that they have access. To it's, it doesn't always go through that system very smoothly. And so one of the things is, you know, helping them let go of whatever conditioning they've taken on just by being human, start letting go of that and move back out into that multi dimensional field so they're not using that hardware as much. Can be really helpful in supporting their regulation as well. And I know firsthand Alex, like after I met Riley in 99 and he literally, I mean he literally blew my circuits, my central nervous system, literally could not hold the information that he had just imparted. And, you know, and it took, it took a couple years to put that back together. So, and you look at anybody who has a a big awakening of some sort. Usually it takes some time to kind of regulate that within our human bodies. These kids have access to that kind of information all the time.

Alex Ferrari 56:16
Wow, that's such a beautiful way of looking at it, because, you know, as it as I've spoken to so many channels and psychics, their abilities, specifically channels, they have to kind of be trained. Their nervous system has to be kind of primed to be able to handle higher levels of frequency of energy coming through. You and I have a friend, Lee Harris, who's a dear, dear friend of both of ours, and he too, when he started, it took him a minute before he could get to disease. And how he channels disease, the nervous system needed to be primed. And sometimes it takes years to prime it. And sometimes they come in with a starter, a starter being to kind of like, start the ball rolling, and Riley was Riley. Riley with you. Was that starter being but it was so strong it knocked your nervous system out, and now you've honed your nervous system to a point where it could handle large amounts of this energy that these children are giving you. I have to ask you personally, why do you think you chose this path in this life? What is the spiritual purpose that you you think from your spiritual understanding of yourself and your soul blueprint, why did you choose this path? Because this is not an easy path. It's not.

Suzy Miller 57:42
Yeah, it's that's a great question. I I know from my own earlier experience I had, I spent an awful lot of time out and out of my body because of my earlier childhood experiences, and I felt like because I was up and out so much that very much I was kind of in those worlds of multi dimensional reality. I was connecting with all kinds of other things, you know, from really early on. And I honestly believe Alex, that I believe that the kids came in to show me how to reintegrate those different aspects of myself and to literally allow as much of who I am to be here. I think it's, I think it's really simple, you know, in that way, I think that we're all here to be who we are in truth. And I I'm very appreciative of interacting with these kids the way I do, and the fact that, yeah, I always say it's like, I'm not sure who's supporting who here, it's like, going both directions, because more they helped me integrate, the more I could help them and others understand about them. And it just has vacillated back and forth. So as far as what the reason for all of that is, or what that, I think it's just that. I think it's just to, we're all here to show up as fully as we can show up. And, yeah, it hasn't been easy. Thank you for acknowledging that. And the other side of it is, is that I wouldn't happen any other way. You know, it's just what I was here to do.

Alex Ferrari 59:41
And Riley saw that he's like, Oh, here you are. Here, let me. Let me wake you up.

Suzy Miller 59:45
Yeah, like a two by four

Alex Ferrari 59:49
Right across the head,

Suzy Miller 59:51
Exactly.

Alex Ferrari 59:53
Now, Susie, do you have any experience integrating energy healing with uh people on the spectrum.

Suzy Miller 1:00:02
So tell me a little bit more about what you mean, healing

Alex Ferrari 1:00:06
Yeah, like, Yeah, any kind of energy healing that people use to help their their chakras align, or anything along those lines, any kind of energy healing. Have you integrated, or heard of the integration with people on the spectrum?

Suzy Miller 1:00:22
Well, I can only tell you what the kids have asked me to into, how they've asked me to interact with them. So and I can also, I can also give another side to that. But so one of the techniques that the kids gave me a long time ago is they kept talking about all of our conditioning, and that conditioning is multi dimensional, multi layered. And so at one point, they gave me this process where they would say, okay, everything is energy. Everything gets recycled, nothing, nothing gets we don't remove anything. We just recycle it. So, for instance, if one of kid came to me and he would say, I need help with whatever my my kidney function, or I need help with, you know, it could be anything, they would have me move that energy, put it into a sphere, right? They'd say, put a blue star in the center of the sphere, spin the whole thing to clear, collapse the sphere, return it to before it was created. And it was literally the sphere was a way of holding the energetic information in its totality, the Blue Star represented where we're already whole. You know, we're all already whole. So spin that field to clear, collapse it back and return it to before it was created. And the kids just said, I have used this, what they call technology of love, that particular energetic technology, for decades now, and it seems to be really supportive and effective. I think part of the reason it's supportive and effective is because it's not me as a practitioner, as a healing practitioner, integration practitioner, telling the kids what they need. It's them. It's me listening and them pointing me to different things that need to shift, and we're using that modality as a means of shifting it, yeah, and so that has been really supportive, inner child work for parents, really supportive, sound healing, equine Therapy. There's all kinds of things that, naturally and organically are more attuned to the vibrational space that these kids hang out in than other things. And to flip that on the other side, I have also watched over the years Alex ware and I've been on a lot of panels where you have, you know, doctors, energy workers, different people who have different modalities. And the one thing that I think is really challenging for the kids is that when we come to the kids and say, This is my this is my mastery, or this is my capacity, I'm going to push that on you. I'm going to, you know, I'm going to offer that to you because I'm going to heal you. I don't know, but if anybody said to me, it's like, I'm going to heal you, it's like, number one, if I didn't ask, I'm going to be a little bit disgruntled. But number two, it's like, can we look at this from a different perspective? Can we look at it from the vantage point of wholeness and see what capacity wants to be brought to the forefront? Because when we bring our capacity to the forefront, we naturally let some of our challenges recede to the background. Yeah, and I love that approach much more. So sometimes even when we have the best of intentions, if we're going at it from the vantage point of I'm going to fix you. I mean, there's nobody on this planet that wants to be fixed. We want to be supported, we want to be loved. We want to be seen for who we are, nurtured, maybe even a little compassion for but, yeah, we and we're just looking at. How are we actually coming to any individual? How are we meeting any individual? Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:05:08
Beautifully said, beautifully said Suzy, now I'm going to ask you a few questions. Ask all my guests, what is your definition of living a fulfilled life?

Suzy Miller 1:05:18
I think living a fulfilled life is living life just daily life, like living a fulfilled life is just meeting the opportunities that are presented to you moment by moment, day after day. Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:05:35
If you had a chance to go back in time and speak to Little Suzy, what advice would you give her?

Suzy Miller 1:05:41
It's not what you think it's going to be. It's not what what you think it's going to be at all. Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:05:51
How do you define God or Source?

Suzy Miller 1:05:56
All that is ever has been, ever will be.

Alex Ferrari 1:06:00
Beautifully said, What is love?

Suzy Miller 1:06:03
Love is that which unifies, yeah, love is anything nice.

Alex Ferrari 1:06:12
And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

Suzy Miller 1:06:16
To fully live it.

Alex Ferrari 1:06:20
And where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing in the world?

Suzy Miller 1:06:24
Um, Suzy at Suzy or suzymiller.com Yeah, just suzymiller.com so,

Alex Ferrari 1:06:33
And you get your book, and you get your book on Amazon, and every everywhere else, right?

Suzy Miller 1:06:38
Yeah, yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:06:39
And do you have any parting messages for the audience?

Suzy Miller 1:06:43
No, I'm just, I'm very grateful for you, Alex, to you know, bring this conversation, and because you're right, a lot of people aren't speaking about it from the capacity vantage point. And so I'm just really hopeful that this, yeah, brings a lot of lightness to a lot of people, so that's good. Thank you so much.

Alex Ferrari 1:07:06
Thank you so much for everything you're doing to awaken the planet and help souls on the spectrum along the way, and people who support those souls as well. So thank you so much for all the work you do. I appreciate you.

Suzy Miller 1:07:18
Thanks, Alex.