Alex Ferrari 0:00
So what is a forensic psychic medium? I mean, obviously you work with the police.

Sheila Marie 0:04
I work in crime, homicides, missing persons, anything. I didn't want anyone knowing what I was doing, because I know I was the biggest skeptic, so I know what they would be thinking and feel. Universe says you're doing forensics now. And so next thing I know, I'm working on cases, and they give me a lineup of three people. Which one is it? I said it's him, 300% this case was a cold case of 39 years. Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 0:28
But the forensic stuff, I'm like, why are they involving themselves? If this is part of the journey of the soul to experience a loss of a child or a loss of a loved one, or being involved in a case that they were caught up in something. I'm just curious what

Sheila Marie 0:43
You know, no one's ever asked me that before. What a what a fabulous question. So my...

Alex Ferrari 0:51
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Alex Ferrari 1:44
I like to welcome to the show, Sheila Marie, how you doing Sheila?

Sheila Marie 1:47
Thank you for having me. Alex, yes. Thank you.

Alex Ferrari 1:49
Thank you for making the trip to Next Level Soul Studios. I appreciate it. Thanks. It's your story is interesting. You are a forensic psychic medium or

Sheila Marie 2:00
Yeah, forensic psychic medium, exactly.

Alex Ferrari 2:02
So what is a forensic psychic medium? I mean, obviously you work with the police and help them as well. Tell me.

Sheila Marie 2:08
So, basically a forensic psychic medium basically, it's data and information, you know. So I used to be a police officer years ago, and, yeah, for like, 15 years, and with the psychic abilities. Well, no for all that. Okay, I had no idea that I was able to connect until I was, like, around 36 years old. I was always, always doing meditations with my dad when I was younger, but it was around 36 when I started getting into connection. You know, so sorry, what was the question? So, what? So forensic, yeah, yeah. So basically, what I do is I work with families and law enforcement agencies, whoever it may be, and I work in crime, homicides, missing persons, anything. And basically I'm a self contractor. So basically, I'm connecting to spirit. All right, I'm feeling really weird. Yeah, I'm just it's not coming out slowly. Don't worry about it. Yeah. So as a forensic psychic medium, I work in law enforcement, but I really am a contractor. I work for anybody all the time, you know what I mean, but I receive a lot of data and information. I get a lot of dreams, you know, I write, draw maps and faces and stuff like that.

Alex Ferrari 3:26
So you're always getting stuff.

Sheila Marie 3:29
Yes, always, always. So, yeah. So that's basically what a forensic psychic medium. So I'm using my mediumship, but I'm all right. So originally, when I first started, I was just going to be a psychic and do readings, you know. And my teacher at the time, she goes, you're going to work in law enforcement. I'm like, I'm done working law enforcement. I am not doing that anymore. And so later on, years later, I was contacted by a historical society, and they said, Oh, Sheila, can you come out every Sunday and tell us what you see. And this isn't in Sudbury mass Concord mass, where the Revolutionary War took place and, and I was not a history buff or anything, so it was perfect for me, because I didn't understand or know anything, you know. So I'd stand out in a field, and I just download stuff. And they were working with the Smithsonian, and they're like, Oh my gosh. So we were, I was giving the information. Then I didn't realize it at the time, but there was a guy, his name was Kevin, and he was looking for the Babe Ruth's lost piano. And, you know, Babe Ruth lost so Babe Ruth was a famous Yeah, Red Sox player.

Alex Ferrari 4:36
Red Sox, how dare you? Yeah. It was the Curse of the Bambino. Before they won

Sheila Marie 4:42
say, we found the piano, it broke the curse.

Alex Ferrari 4:45
Is that when it happened?

Sheila Marie 4:46
Yeah. So, yeah. So, okay, so Kevin was always searching for the piano in this

Alex Ferrari 4:52
Kevin is someone the other side, or

Sheila Marie 4:55
Kevin's here. Kevin, Kevin. Kevin was a historical society member, and he was part of the group, and he was always searching for the piano. And at that time, I had agreed that I would go and do the historical stuff. I knew Kevin was interested in that, but I said, No, no, because you have to understand, I was living a double life. I didn't tell anybody that I was a medium. I did this on Sundays because I was a political person. I was a police officer. I didn't want people knowing, yeah, yeah. I didn't want anyone knowing what I was doing, because I know I was the biggest skeptic, so I know what they would be thinking and feeling. I'm like, forget it. So anyways, make long story short, one time. So every Sunday, we'd go out, and one time there was two of us. There was Lee and Kevin. Two of them, Lee, Kevin and me, and we went out to a pond, and first thing I saw a flash of from spirit. I saw a flash of the green, green monster. And I said, Oh, Kevin, this is that baseball thing. I don't want nothing to do with this. He's like, please just give us 10 minutes. I'm like, All right, fine. I'll give you 10 minutes, but then let's get back to work. Okay, great. So we walk up the hill, and I pick up a stick and I and I went in and I and I saw flashes of nautical marks. I asked Barrett, you know, show me answer his question, Where was the piano, all that kind of and I saw a nautical mark, so I gave it to them. Well, I didn't know it, but the next day, they had a state diver and a diving team and a permit for the pond. They went out with those nautical marks, and they found the veneers the piano in 10 minutes. So, so what is this piano? So this was, technically, supposedly, it was Babe Ruth's piano that was thrown into this river where his cottage was, but they could never find it. And the environmental police were out there for 30 years because there's zero visibility, searching for it. And in 10 minutes after spirit gave me the knock, they found it. Yeah, so.

Alex Ferrari 6:46
And then from that moment, the Curse of the Bambino was lifted.

Sheila Marie 6:49
It was lifted. But my life, I wanted to die. I want to crawl under a rock, because it was God.

Alex Ferrari 6:56
How did you?

Sheila Marie 6:56
Yeah, the universe said, Sheila, you coming out today, right? And I was, I didn't know what to do, you know? And so it went from,

Alex Ferrari 7:05
It wasn't a hush hush thing,

Sheila Marie 7:06
Japan, India was all over the news. Oh, my God. You think I would have been happy? I didn't. I was devastated, yeah. And so next thing I know, I'm sitting in my studio on this old mill in Medway, Massachusetts, and I get a knock on the door, and it's agents, not, like, not like, police, like, bigger, okay, yeah, oh yeah, sometimes, and, but even bigger than that. And so they're like, can you help us with this? Can it wasn't even missing persons and stuff? I'm thinking, Oh, wow. And then there. That's when forensics became. The Universe says you're doing forensics now. And so next thing I know, I'm working on cases, you know, I'm working on missing person, all different types of cases, everything. So not only am I doing mediumship, but I was doing police work at the same time. So it kind of intertwined. So I funny how that works out, isn't it? Oh my gosh. And then I realized, I said, Okay, well, the universe has set my foundation all these years. I so get it now I accept this, right? And so, yeah, right. Everything's a calling. Because this is, this is a calling to me, you know. And I didn't want to work with police again. I didn't want to even do mediumship, but in my heart, originally, actually, when I was 36 this is funny, I was, I was in my bedroom, and my daughter was, she was like, two years old or something, and she's running around, and it was raining out, and all of a sudden, I was on the phone with my sister in law, and I said, Hey, is it rain at your house? She's like, No. I'm like, Oh, it isn't mine. So I had contemporary when so I slid the window. I'm like, and then it stopped. Like, that's weird. So I sat in the in my bed, and I'm talking to her, she my daughter's running around, and all of a sudden I see this white light at the end of my bedroom was the bathroom door, and this white light about this high, like around my eyes, not in my head, comes around and kind of sees me and stops. I'm like, Oh my God. It's like, seven o'clock, you know? I'm like, that. She's like, what's going on? Are you seeing spirits? I'm like, This is my sister. I'm like, no, yeah. I was afraid that it would see me talk and but I did. I wasn't scared. I was just like, What the hell is happening? My daughter's looking at Oh, your daughter, sorry. Yeah, she's sorry too. And all of a sudden it picks up and flies across the room, and then that was gone. And I said, What the hell was that? So the next that Christmas, I get a gift certificate from my sister in law, meet your spirit guide class. And I'm like, She's out of her flipping mind. I am not going there. I'm Roman Catholic. If I never even had

Alex Ferrari 9:33
So where's what? Where's this in the timeline?

Sheila Marie 9:35
I was about 36 years old.

Alex Ferrari 9:37
So you haven't, you haven't come out of this.

Sheila Marie 9:39
Nothing this. I went from Babe Ruth all the way back, got it, and so I and that was, like, 10 years later, the Babe Ruth. And so I was, like, devastated. And I had never even had a psychic reading before. I didn't believe in any of that at all, at all.

Alex Ferrari 9:55
So is this the starting point 36 so no, but that moment with. That that's the first time.

Sheila Marie 10:01
That was the first time, yeah, and but I, I had had things happen around, you know, like dreams. I was heightened kid, this and that,

Alex Ferrari 10:09
Yeah, but you there was, there's glimpses of it, but nothing that you could easily, you could kind of like, Yeah, whatever, nothing, yeah. So as a Catholic, yeah, as speaking as a Catholic, a recovering Catholic, myself as a Catholic, when you saw that, what's the first thing that you thought it was?

Sheila Marie 10:27
I thought it was the Blessed Mother. Okay, yeah. And I said, Oh my god, I think it was the Blessed Mother. And then the part of me said, or was that an alien? Because it could be another Mary, yeah, yeah. So my conclusion was, is that I heard lightning, and it rained a little bit and it stopped. So whatever it was, I believe. I know everyone think I'm crazy. I don't care that it came from the sky, and it was energy, that's what I felt. And it wasn't scary. It wasn't like,

Alex Ferrari 10:58
Shocking, yeah, for you, yeah. First time, yeah, yeah. I was like, Look as as well versed as I am in the world that you come from, in the channeling world and mystical world is up. If I just saw a ghost or a light being in front of me, yeah, and me understanding all of it, I'd still be going,

Sheila Marie 11:18
Yeah, okay. And I'll be honest with you, Alex, that's what keeps me in it. Because every like, I went to this, so I went to the spirit guide class that my sister in law gave me a year later because I put it in the cup, and I'm like, I'm not gonna let you say I'm not going away, that

Alex Ferrari 11:33
There's a spirit guides class back then is pretty amazing, yeah.

Sheila Marie 11:38
And so it was like, meet your spirit guide. So basically, I walked into the class and there's like 20 people, and it's 20 people. It's not like three people, yeah. And the lady says to me, Oh, we're gonna do meditation. I said, Oh, my dad. My dad used to do meditations with me when I was 11. I know how to do meditation, right? Guided meditation. So I went, I said, I could do this piece of cake. I'm okay now. And when I got in and I said, I said, I said a prayer. I said, Oh God, Jesus, Mary, whoever, all the saints. If I'm not supposed to see anything, don't let me see. I give everything to you. Just don't let me see. Well, what happened? Because I let go and I trusted I saw everything. Okay, so I come out crying. I'm like, oh my god, I'm because my meditations took off. I went other places. I was getting message. It was like instant. And I said, My God, this is real. So I came home, I have to tell you that. I came over my and I told my my husband at the time, I said to him, I have to do this. And he goes, what I said, mediumship. He goes, What the hell is that? And I said, you know, like readings. He's like, Oh my God. And I said, it's okay, you can divorce me, but I have to teach people how to connect, really. And he's like, what I go, if I don't do this, I'm gonna die. That's how strong it went, Yeah. And I didn't even know what a calling was at the time, because I just my mother's like, that's a calling. Like, well, what's a calling, right? You know, I didn't get it at the time, but yeah. So that's how it began for me. I accepted this calling, and I because I knew in my art It was everything, and shame on me for not teaching people how to connect to the universe, if you didn't, yeah, shame on me. And that's and so I had to do readings in the beginning, and I didn't like that because I was very Catholic. I didn't want to go to hell, you know. But what I you know what? I mean,

Alex Ferrari 13:21
This conversation alone. So you're going straight. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200 I mean, you're done.

Sheila Marie 13:28
And so I saw there. I was always a very spiritual person. And so there i i began to coexist, and started the universe was always teaching me, and still is always, you know, there's no perfect medium. There's no perfect person. So the universe is always teaching you on your foundation from my experience. And so at that time, that's when my conscious energy experience started, and coexisting, finding the spirituality in everyone's religion, and not the man made part, you know. And so that was key. So there I began teaching, and as I taught, I learned in the universe gave me more even, like my trips to India. I when I first started, I was really rejected from society. I lost friends, everything. And it was really, really, really, yeah, you know, all right, really, really tough. And so I would read books on Tibet and the Dalai Lama this. And I said, Oh, they find the Dalai Lama through trance. I can do that. I'm like, and then they accept women as equally spiritually. I'm like, Oh, my God, I found my just

Alex Ferrari 14:35
like the Catholic Church, except different.

Sheila Marie 14:36
Yeah, right, exactly, exactly. It's exactly the same. Completely different, different. And so I said, Oh, my God, I definitely, I'm going to go to Tibet someday, right? And in my you can't go there, they exile whatever. You know. I'm like, Oh, I go. I'm going to go visit him someday. And you know, I'm going to go next month. Literally, your ex husband. This is my ex husband. Yeah, I actually going. To meet Dalai Lama next month. So I'm like, wow, it came true. And I told him, I go, you want to come with me? He goes, I'm not going to a third world country. I'm like, it looks like I'm going alone, you know, and that's okay. I don't have no problem. But so anyways, as as far as connection, you know, everybody's the same. I've just found that with my teachers and all my experiences, you know, people like, Oh, you're cool. You're a forensic medium. I'm thinking, Well, I'm just a person, and I'm channeling I go, everybody can do it. Some people, I believe, are beginners. Some people play professional and some people maybe have a calling. You know what I mean?

Alex Ferrari 15:39
There's every one of us could if we physically have the ability to throw a ball into a basket, yeah, but not all of us are. Michael Jordan, exactly. We all have the ability to play the game, but there's just different levels of it, whether through practice or whether through inherent talent or what you bring into this life, absolutely, you know, we all have those gifts, yes, and so on. I wanted to go back for a second, because as a I have a lot of Catholics who watch the show.

Sheila Marie 16:06
I'm okay with that. My kids went to parochial school. So did I, and the mothers loved me on the side. They'd have parties and everything church we wouldn't talk about

Alex Ferrari 16:13
And I still feel guilty about going to school so but when you were telling me you were being taught to meditate at 11, that's in the depth of your Catholicism. How did, how did you kind of wrap meditation, which is not looked upon right fondly in in Roman Catholic traditions, there's prayer, but that's prayer, right? That's not meditation, yeah, prayer is connecting to something outside of you, which is God you're that meditation is all about connecting with within, which goes against the Catholic Church, if I'm not mistaken, yeah.

Sheila Marie 16:53
So for me, my parents lived apart, and I would go to my dad's house, and he was, ended up being chief of police, but he was police but he was police to us and from a big policing family, and on this right, and on the side, lot of ego, a lot of so anyways, on the side, he was learning hypnotism, because he but listen to this at the time, he was learning hypnotism, but I really think it was mediumship, because He was learning for hit and run cases. And he says, Yeah, I can see the license plates in my head, and I'm thinking, that's really mediumship, dad. That's not really hypnotist.

Alex Ferrari 17:30
That's not even close to what

Sheila Marie 17:32
It was a cover it was a cover up, you know? So I would go

Alex Ferrari 17:35
Imagine it at that time, right? I mean, that literally is like, burn at the state kind of stuff.

Sheila Marie 17:39
Yeah. So my dad had the choice to have his hypnotist business or do the sergeant for police. And he chose the policing, and he tried to let that go.

Alex Ferrari 17:48
It's safer, but he was the starting point for you.

Sheila Marie 17:51
Yeah. So I would sit on the couch and he'd say, okay, Sheila, go in, close your eyes. And then I so I had a complete trust with a guided meditation at a young age. And I just thought everybody did that with their dads. You know what I mean? I was the guinea pig because he wanted to teach people and to, you know, for clients and stuff like that. And, yeah, it was the best thing that ever happened. But my, in my eyes, I look back, and even when I was in the fourth grade, I used to, I started getting a lot of dreams and stuff. They were real clear. And I just thought there were nightmares, and I was terror. I was very anxious, kid, you know what I mean, and very heightened, like I was afraid of the dark, I mean, but I was feeling everything is really what was happening. You know?

Alex Ferrari 18:32
You know, what's interesting is I was raised in New York, so I was what I was raised in Queens, New York, in the back in the day. So I'm familiar with Philly and the mass and Boston and that area pretty well. That is a Catholic stronghold, absolutely. I mean, Irish Catholic stronghold. Oh, yeah. So you're basically an enemy territory. If you're in the metaphysical media, it's, you know, now it's different, obviously, but back then, when you were coming up in when you were in your 30s, yeah, that must have been insane. And I can't even imagine, for your Father, it was really hard. It's you couldn't it was, you had to be closeted,

Sheila Marie 19:12
Yeah, I had no choice. You Yeah, and you would be exiled, yeah, absolutely, lightly exiled, yep, and I Yeah. It was. It was really funny, because now the universe has me down south, and it's almost the same thing. I'm just thinking about that now. I'm like, Yeah, because, yeah, cuz you're now in Florida, right? Yeah. And people are not open to even readings and stuff. It's so completely different than, like, Salem Well, what I mean? Or California, yeah. So it's different. It's different. But now I find myself more global, you know, which is great. Thank God for the internet, you know, it's opened up my world. I can teach more people all over the world. And thank God for the online, you know, zoom. But yeah, it was, it was not easy. It was really, really, really hard for me. And. Right, even though, I mean, I know people judge and all that, but I always tell everyone, you know, I'm just like you. I'm not any different than you. Once you come to my class, I'll teach you how they're like, Oh, I'm like everyone. Everyone's able to connect. There's not one person that I haven't been able to learn to connect. If you know, if you can learn to let go, you learn to have faith and high in your higher power, and you trust the universe, your higher consciousness, your soul, you know, your energy inside you is who we are. These are just our astronaut suits, you know. And we are already doing this as a beings of light. We are already light inside us. There's no trickery. There's no thing to feel bad or scared about. It's who you are as a being. We're connected everything. We live in space. People. I tell everyone, I'm like, are we in a workshop? I'm like, we live in a universe. We don't just live in Boston. We live Hello, there's the moon where we're here. We're in space. You know, we're beings of light. You know, we're higher consciousness. Everything is energy and vibration and frequency, I said, and, and you can learn to ride that, you know what I mean, you and and use it to your best interest as well. So I also teach entrepreneurs and stuff too, not just psychic and mediums. And I'll be honest with you, I prefer to teach people who are just pre beginners, beginners. You know? I just love watching them grow into who they are. You know, it's fun to watch that, but, I mean, I'll teach anybody, but it's, it's interesting, but, yeah, everyone's able to and everything is higher consciousness, and it's really funny, because, like, I'm not one to read books or anything like that. That's just not who I am. I'm more visual, you know, experiential, yeah. And so I've everything I've learned is come from spirit, you know. And as I grow, I'll, you know, I'll give that to the people around me. You know what I mean, they believe me or not. I don't know, you know, like, right now I'm working, I'm working on five cases in the I had one case that I got dreams last night, you know, I never know. So it's different for me. That's how I know the forensics is a calling for me, because, like, I don't pick my cases. Like, there's so many people out there in the world who need help, you know, and they're asking for help, but I just ask God the universe to bring me who I need to help. And then that's how it happens to me, that I'll get a phone call or email, you know, and because I would be exhausted, you know, this just too many and I forget why I'm telling you this. But anyways, I had a dream last night, and, yeah, I never know, like, how I know it was a calling is because I'm getting dreams, and I'm not asking for them. It's like, this is something new with me that just started happening, like, eight years ago, you know, like I would always get the information. Actually, I've made a blueprint with the forensics as well, because nobody taught me how to do it, like I knew how to connect with mediumship and as a intuitive, you know, but to actually make a blueprint of how I receive everything. So like, for instance, I had a woman I always use this case when I'm podcast, because I it's my most memorable one. This woman comes in and into my studio, and I said, Okay, please, I know it's for forensics. And I said, Okay, please don't tell me anything. I get her information first, because everyone's suspect. I've actually had suspects come in for information for me to make themselves look good and stuff. Yeah, so, but universe shows me I need to contact somebody, you know. So anyways, I get the information. And I said, just give me the person's first name she gives me. I didn't know it at the time, but a little boy's first name. And I said, Okay, I'm going to sit down with you and I'm going to draw and see what spirit gives me. So when I channel, it's like a deep meditation. And you know how to do that? And so I'm just receiving images, or I'm feeling words, I'm getting information. And what I do is I just draw, draw it, jot it down, jot, jot, jot, jot, you know, so I got like, 50 papers, and I'm doing it in front of her. I'm like, don't say anything, okay? And so then I'll tell her. I said, this is what I got from spirit. If any of it resonates with you, just put your hand up. So I tell her everything that I got. She's over there, balling her eyes up. She goes, I understand everything. I said, Okay, don't tell me anything. I said, in a week time, I'm gonna see if I get any dreams, and then we'll meet again. Sure enough, I got a dream. Actually, it was for two weeks straight, every night, my my husband, I was married at the time, he'd be waking me up. You haven't one of those, because I'd be screaming, you have one of those dreams like, my god, so I'm writing everything down

Alex Ferrari 24:35
Rough for your husband. I gotta say, yeah, he's having a rough situation.

Sheila Marie 24:39
We're not married anymore.

Alex Ferrari 24:42
I'm trying to, I'm being empathetic to your husband here, all of a sudden, like, someone's like, who's really grounded is like, this is all crazy. All of a sudden, the woman next year, you're having the nightmares again. It was talking to the spirits again. I can't take this.

Sheila Marie 24:57
Yeah, it was really bad, and it was really. Bad. I ended up with my own bedroom, and

Alex Ferrari 25:03
It's like snoring to another level. Yeah, you're having night terrors, essentially,

Sheila Marie 25:09
Basically. So this little boy was coming to me, and I'll never forget it. And

Alex Ferrari 25:13
So he came to you in the dreams.

Sheila Marie 25:15
Yeah, I didn't know it was a little boy. I'm just going, what I'm seeing, right? And I would see the top of his hair, which was like, dirty blonde, and out. Oh, and I was in, I will give you the state. That's all I'm going to say, because I never talked about the names. I was in New York City. Okay, okay, you were living in New York No, in my dream, okay, I was in New York City, and I could see all the buildings and everything, and I I can still see it now, like when I talk to you, like the files, because everything's vibration, everything's in Akashic Records, which is basically memory, you know. And so I'm visualizing it now, and I could see it. And the little boy was showing me what he did that day. And then I I even wrote down when I dropped, when I after I saw the visual, I wrote down words and stuff. And I'm like, What the hell is a pagoda? Padoga pagoda? Yeah, I didn't even know what that means. It's like, a corner store, yeah? You mean, yeah, bodega. And I wrote it down. I'm like, I don't know what that is. I keep on going. And I was visual. I'll never forget, I'll tell you a little so I was in there, and the little boy took me into a room. It was a small room, and I looked on the floor, and then I heard a door closed behind me, you know, and and I looked, and then next thing I know, I look on the wall, and there is a picture of a school bus. And I'm like, Oh, next thing I know, I'm outside near a river. I'm like, what's going on? Well, apparently I was in a freezer. Yeah, I was in a freezer. And I'm like, Oh, I can freak out. And, okay, so spirits, like, right now I'm connected. Like, in the beginning, I used to have to be in deep meditation, but like, now, all the time, and spirits telling me I was on on a bridge, and I heard loud as day. I don't think it was a little boy's name, but it was a voice, but it was a voice, but it was a higher voice. It gave me a number of a street Yeah. And I'm like, okay, so I wrote it down. So turns out that that was a lot of the information. And apparently, make a long story short, this went on for two weeks. It was just, I'm blown away. I'm like, I'm like, wow, this is really cool. I'm like, wow, really, God, you know what's this, you know? And like, and I draw the maps and everything, but I can see it visually. Oh, if I could take you in my head, you know what I mean? And so I do the best, I try, you know. And I got all the information. And turns out they, they gave me a lineup. Now, when I was walking into this corner store, I saw this person's face, oh my gosh, and I drew it best I can. Sometimes I can draw when I'm in spirit, because I'm channeling like, I can't draw an apple right now, but if I'm channeling, it'll be the beautifulest Apple you've ever seen. You know what I mean? Because spirits coming through me, I'm allowing myself to just kind of relax a little bit. But honestly, it's a different it's a vibration, is what it is, you know? And so anyways, I see the person's face, and anyways they, I give them the copy, and this is him. This is him, 300% okay, so they, they give me, I'm working with a Missing Persons Unit in New York, and they give me a lineup of three people. Which one is it? I said it's him. 300% oh my gosh, it's him. I've seen him in my oh my gosh, it's him. They're like, telling you, right now, that's the dude. That's the dude. Sure enough, they were wrong and they got a confession out of the guy. He's in for life now, yeah, and what are the odds of that? But they can't. Sometimes I can't use me in court, but they'll come like they can't. Usually they can't use me, but they get all the information they need, then they use it, then they find it,

Alex Ferrari 28:45
They figure out how to connect, yeah, and so, yeah, it's kind of like doing an illegal tap, yeah. Like, you can't use it in court, but that information is really valid.

Sheila Marie 28:53
And this, this case, was a cold case of 39 years, shut up, yeah, yeah. And I was like, wow, wow.

Alex Ferrari 29:01
So you were just in. You're just kind of like a spectator,

Sheila Marie 29:04
Yeah, oh, that's all I am. I'm just watching that was pretty cool, even though you're doing it. Last night, I had Tom Brady in my dream. No, but I really did, you are, but it actually meant something on a case so, but not Tom. But I said, Wow, what did that? Who knew that I would he would be a link for me. But, yeah, so you just never know. I'm a spectator. And what keeps me going, what keeps me doing it is the adrenaline rush. You know, I'm like, Oh,

Alex Ferrari 29:34
Let me ask you something I want to I've never asked this question before, but it's, it's it came to me, and

Sheila Marie 29:42
I'll just have to say I'm so honored to be on your show, because you are really the bridge to consciousness for everyone right now. No, it really in this is your calling, and I think it's wonderful that you're sharing your calling and you're bringing everyone together. I was looking for this, you know, in my heart. Because I know that you reach a lot of people. And I said, Oh, this is going to really help the universe. So I thank you. Oh, well, thank you.

Alex Ferrari 30:05
Thank you. Appreciate it. Yeah, so all this information that you get, especially in something like a cold case or a missing persons case, or working in forensics, I'm interested to figure, want to hear what your thoughts are. You know, we are here, incarnated in this life, right? And we're playing this game. We're life, yeah, life is a game. We're in the matrix. We are characters. We are avatars, if you will, yeah, we don't dodge bullets, but, but, but, that's what we're doing here, right? And there are rules to this game, very strict rules, certain things you have to if you're here, you got to play with these rules now, medium psychics, channelers, they seem to be a little bit outside the rules, or playing by different sets of rules, meaning that they can connect to the other side. Most people aren't aware they can, right but, but they're connecting. My question is, with something like a missing persons case, or something like 40 years, 39 years later, why is spirit involving itself in solving that case? Where, you know what I mean, like, shouldn't they just let the game play out without interfering? Right? And I don't mean that interfering in a bad way. I'm just saying, like, involving themselves, right? And that goes for, you know, specifically something in forensics, I understand you want to talk to your grandmother, who just does, yeah, and that's a different conversation. Or, like, hey, you know, where the where's the insurance policy? Oh, it's in the third drawer.

Sheila Marie 31:37
Those calls sometimes

Alex Ferrari 31:39
That I get, yeah, but the forensic stuff, I'm like, why are they involving themselves? If this is part of the journey of the soul to experience a loss of a child or a loss of a loved one, or being involved in a case that they were caught up in something, I'm just curious what.

Sheila Marie 31:55
You know, no one's ever asked me that before. What a what a fabulous question. So my I'm going to just ask Spirit to come and just kind of let me speak through spirit. But my interpretation of that is that it's all about connection still, because there's people that are living, that are, I feel like it's their connection to their spirit. So when we pass we leave these bodies, you know, we, quote, go to heaven, right? We leave these bodies, and we're still connected. We're still connected to everyone around us. It's just a different vibration. It's like walking into the next room, you know? And so I'm not sure. I mean, I always say I'm not God, but my interpretation of that is these people that are still here on our human plane, I feel like they're trying to help them. I guess I understand what you're saying, because everything happens. Yes, life happens, but it's all about choices too. Is it because those people are making choices because they want it to come, you see, so the people that are missing their child for 39 years, whatever they're asking the universe. They're calling in they're calling in the universe. And oh, here I am, the light over here, you know? And that's, that's what I'm feeling about that,

Alex Ferrari 33:09
So I get that, but like, why? So if I'm having a session with you, I'm gonna go, can my grandfather give me the lottery ticket numbers please? They won't interfere that way, because that's a major change in my life that would be like, if tomorrow I won the billion dollar Powerball life, it's gonna change for me, right? Of course, it's gonna change for anybody.

Sheila Marie 33:28
I honestly, yeah. I mean, one is different, one's more emotional. You know, I want to say, you know, we have choices, right? Everything in life is a choice, free will, right? Yeah, free will and choice, and when we make a new choice, it creates a new outcome constantly. Yeah, absolutely. And it can change like that. That's why sometimes future you can see, but, you know, like in your head, but it's all about those choices that that person still has to make to get into it.

Alex Ferrari 33:54
It's probable. Yes, it's the probability that. That's why I always tell people that when they're like, Whoa, how come I talk to a psychic, and they got it wrong. I'm like, because you have free choice, they will give you a in our best estimation, if you continue to go down this path, right, you're gonna get the job in New York, right? But you, all of a sudden, my, you know, go another way. And all of a sudden,

Sheila Marie 34:15
I almost, when we're talking about this, I'm almost feeling, possibly, I may, I don't know, because I never really asked the universe, did I make these choices before I came here to be a forensic medium? Well, they certainly were setting me up for it, because it was a life purpose calling for me, and I recognized it, you know what I mean? And then they set up all the key players in my family, my mother, things that happened in my environment. You were Yeah, everything for this. So they were priming for that, whether I, whether I accepted it or not, was up to me, You know what I mean, and but, yeah, really, what was the question?

Alex Ferrari 34:52
No, but I want to, I want to point something out here, because you just triggered something in me that I think is really important. You could have, you could. Of you were going to end up here regardless in your life, you're going to be a forensic medium. But they didn't place you, or you didn't choose to be placed in a hippie commune in California, where all of this would have been. You would have never been Catholic. You would have been raised in the spiritual world. You might have had a medium for a mom, you know, and a dad who was a psychic or Channeler and but that wouldn't have set you up for what you're doing now in the way you're doing it now, you needed to be raised Catholic, right? You needed to be raised in Boston, yeah, that environment is very different, and prepped you for something like this. So you and I mirror in this way. Yeah, I was brought up. I was brought up. We both brought up. Catholic, yeah, I went into the film industry. Spent 20 years in the film industry, 25 years in film industry. I'm 30 now, but 25 years in film industry bump in my head, making a living, doing work, all that kind of stuff, but always angry that I never got to another place. And I was like, why are you putting me through this? I kept asking, Why are you putting me through this? So you same thing 15 years as a police officer, going through all of that enjoyable, I'm sure, and you had a good time you did for 15 years, so it was fine, but it was prepping you for the next stage in your life. Both of us were being prepped for the next stage, where, all of a sudden, you became a forensic medium. I became a podcaster. Both insane, right? Both insane, yeah, you know, I already ran, Oh, I already ran away with the circus to become a filmmaker. You were a police you were more grounded. You're a police officer. And then, then we became, I became a podcast. You became a forensic medium, yeah, but then you became a medium. But then the forensic aspect of it was, Oh, look at all the work you did in the police world. Yeah. Then that makes sense. And now as a podcaster, I opened up the spiritual show, and now I have a production company doing spiritual content for our own streaming service. And I was like, oh, that's why I did this. Yeah, that's why, yeah. So it's a lesson for the audience listening. There's like, just because you're going through something that you might not understand yet, you have to trust the universe. You have to trust that the universe has a plan for you. Yes, absolutely. If you want to go even more meta, you have a plan for you. Yeah, that you decided that you have to go through this to get to the other side, right? Yep, and, and to do things that you can't see yet, right? Yeah, you know when I, when I did the when I went through toughest time in my life was, and I've said this so many times, I show please forgive me everybody, when I almost made a $20 million movie for the mafia. Oh, and when I was in my 20s,

Sheila Marie 37:46
I've worked with a mafia before.

Alex Ferrari 37:47
I'm sure you have. My first book is all about that experience, but that was one of the most traumatic years of my life. I went through a whole lot of things, but without that experience that I was I obviously set myself up to do in before I came here, that gave me the empathy that allowed me to want to help others. And that's when I started. My first podcast was about helping other filmmakers, which then turned into which then was the bridge into,

Sheila Marie 38:21
And I want to say it's all about higher frequency and vibration to you know what I mean? Because you're on a it's like, you know you you manifest it at the same time. In a sense, no idea, yeah, even though you don't know, you know what I mean, yes, the universe has it's almost like you're the chosen one. That's what it feels like, right? You know

Alex Ferrari 38:42
You're the chosen one of your own story, yeah, you know We are Luke, yeah, right, our own Star Wars story. You know we all right. We are Frodo, yeah, you know we are. We are that those. We are Neo like we are the chosen ones of our story, yes, yeah. So when I was, and same with you, with when you had, what did you call it? I call it a mission. You call it calling, calling. So, you know what? I'm like, a mission. Mission. Calling is interchangeable. When you realize, oh, this is what I'm supposed to do with this life. Yeah, then everything changes, yeah, you know, before then you're bumping around.

Sheila Marie 39:18
I want to say also, it's about letting go of the ego.

Alex Ferrari 39:22
Wants certain things

Sheila Marie 39:24
That's so important to let go of the ego and trust the universe, that they'll open the doors for you and that they'll bring what you need to the table.

Alex Ferrari 39:32
Well, that's the thing I wanted to be Spielberg. We anybody who ever I could see you as, anybody who ever wants to direct the film, once

Sheila Marie 39:40
You can direct my film.

Alex Ferrari 39:43
They want to be the success of Steven Spielberg, you know, or of those kind of so we all want to go there. And when you don't get there as a filmmaker, you get very frustrated. Yeah. So every this is the this is the plight of every single director out there. Yeah, even directors who are super you're gonna get there just in a different way, right? That's my point. Like you get there in a different way. So there was opportunities that I want, my ego, wanted me to be a Big time, big budget movie director, yeah, because I only saw this path, right? Yep. And I was following that path for years, and it didn't work out. And all of a sudden as a podcaster, it starts to get in. And now I'm starting to do other productions. I'm starting to do other things, yeah? And I'm like,

Sheila Marie 40:27
They're giving you much bigger responsibility than what he's doing.

Alex Ferrari 40:31
Well, yeah. I mean, yeah, to a certain extent, absolutely, it's just, but it's fascinating when I'm trying to illustrate what you said, the ego, yeah, letting go of what you want to happen. That's right, like, if there's no such thing as time, there's no such thing as time. Listen, I don't know about you, but when I was growing up, I wanted to date this one person. I wanted this one person to be the love of my life. And then, like, and I wanted it so bad, right? And then you fast forward a few years, when that didn't happen, you're like, Oh, thank god I just dodged a bullet. Yeah, that's right. So if everything we if the if we were given everything the ego wanted, we would be self designed would destroy ourselves. Yeah, so the unit there has to be a guiding something's guiding us.

Sheila Marie 41:15
It's a need more what you need the universe will give you

Alex Ferrari 41:18
As opposed to what you want, right? Because I've realized in my few times around the planet, around the universe, if you will, in this life, that what I want is not always necessarily what I need

Sheila Marie 41:32
Absolutely. I think I learned that in pre Cana Catholic

Alex Ferrari 41:35
I just kind of let go now, yeah, and I just kind of, there's still things I want to happen, of course, but when they don't show up, I'm like, You didn't need it, apparently. Wasn't supposed to be that way. And there's a better way around the corner, and that's the kind of way I walk through life now, yeah, oh yeah. Don't get me wrong, if something doesn't happen exactly the way I want it, sometimes I'm like, son of a, especially in traffic, but within certain things, like, Man, why didn't that video do better? Or why didn't that thing that we tried to do do better? Or why didn't this happen

Sheila Marie 42:08
And it needed to happen to make make it what you want to happen? Does that make sense? So I'm feeling, still, you're going to be big, like Steven Spielberg. I just feel that this is the foundation that's getting you there, and it's but it's going to be bigger than that, and already it is becoming that. That's what I'm feeling, that's what spirit's telling me. So I appreciate it. Yeah, so keep going with the flow, because the universe is providing for you, because you're receiving it and there, and you're sending it to everyone, and it's one, it's beautiful.

Alex Ferrari 42:35
Yeah, look, if, if someone would have told you as a teenager that you would be a forensic media Oh, my God. And I if someone had told me I wanted a podcast, I'm like, first of all, what the hell is a podcast? Because they didn't exist back then. This is true, not at all. Pod what? Like, it's kind of like a radio show. I'm like, what, yeah, but it's kind of like a TV show. What? Yeah, I wouldn't it would make no sense to me, but it's a bigger lesson for people listening, that you have to let go. And it's as cliche as it is, let go, let God, yep, because if you let go, things will present themselves in a much better way, absolutely then you would have imagined. And it's not always specifically pleasant. Well, this is true. That is the key to this.

Sheila Marie 43:20
It's like a car battery. You need the negative and the positive to come together, to go forward.

Alex Ferrari 43:24
Oh, I love that, right, right? That one. Oh, that's

Sheila Marie 43:27
So fear. Fear is false evidence appearing real, yeah, or sale

Alex Ferrari 43:34
Negative and the positive to go Yeah. And as a as a soul experiencing this lifetime, you need both polarities Absolutely, and you had to move forward, because without the negative, you can't appreciate the positive, and without the negatives, you don't have the challenges.

Sheila Marie 43:47
I always, I always tell my clients, you know, I find myself being a psychiatrist sometimes, along with being a reader as well. But I always tell them, you know, look for the gift and look for the blessing in the negative. Don't always look at as a punishment. Once you look and find the gift of the blessing in it, it'll come back to the positive for you, and you look at it with gratitude, you know?

Alex Ferrari 44:08
Well, yeah, that experience with the mob for me, I look back with love, yeah, absolute love and gratitude for that experience. Yeah, I didn't the day it happened. I was two years in depression afterwards. Yeah, that feels Yeah. I met the biggest movie stars in the world. I was flown out to LA I was hanging out with all these big things. I was 26 while my life was being threatened on a daily basis by, oh my gosh. So do you see what I mean? Yeah. But going back looking at it, going, my god, that was like,

Sheila Marie 44:37
You know, I have to tell you sometime, a couple of times, my publicist has gotten in Hollywood. I guess I'm not going to name anybody, but two or three people wanted to do my movies this and that they want to do stuff and but the problem is, I said no because they wanted me to unfold the exact name and the places of the cases. I'm like, Do you realize that these cases, even though. They're solved, they're still living. Do you can't do that? Yeah? I'm like, names have to change. Yeah? I go, I have a family. I want to live tomorrow, at least, you know? I go, I can't do that. And I've had people say, Oh, come on, do it for the money. I'm like, I'm not doing this for the money. For the money, yeah? And I'm like, I'm not doing generally, when someone says that, everyone run away, yeah, exactly, yeah. I'm like, not doing it. I said, I said, Someday someone's if it's meant to be, then I'm supposed to show what I do to people. It will be presented properly, you know. And I go, I'm not going to sell my soul. So I go, that's not what I'm doing. I'm here to help people, you know. And it's really funny, I just recently became an international torch for peace ambassador. So I went, Yeah, right. And one of my clients, she was in, oh my gosh, she's she's running it, and she did the, God, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't have the right names, but she had another one before that. But it wasn't for peace. It was for violence. Stop the violence is what it was. And so they asked me, Would you like to be ambassador? I'm like, Sure, and I got to go. I was so excited, like, something's good happened for me, that I got to go and to Washington, DC last February, and say a prayer for all the world's children at the Cathedral, yeah, in front of 1000 people. I'm like, Oh, and, and it was really awesome, because I downloaded the dream from spirit, you know what I mean, and so I wrote it all down. So I'm known as their spiritual advisor, you know? Because if we say psychic medium, they'll be like, woo, she's out. You know, people still judge, people still criticize, because they're so conditioned and so socialized to think, if you don't live this way, there's something wrong with you in their religions, this and that, and I'm just like, oh, religion is nice, but not the religious part of it. The spiritual part is nice about it. You know what I mean?

Alex Ferrari 46:46
Would you? Would you agree with me, as a Catholic, as a recovering Catholic, that I'm very grateful for being raised Catholic? Oh, absolutely. I'm very, oh, I want people to be clear about that. Yeah, I was very angry at the journal, okay, afterwards, because of the because when you start realizing the lies and the manipulation and the fear and all that stuff man made that. The man made stuff it was very angry with for many, many years. I'm not, I'm not anymore, but, but I was very, very grateful for raising, being raised Catholic, because it introduced me to the idea that there's something bigger than myself.

Sheila Marie 47:21
Ohh my gosh, this is the reason why I sent my kids to parochial school. I sent them for the discipline, but they needed to know there was something better than who they are, bigger and better the universe, you know, than their ego. That's the reason why I sent them.

Alex Ferrari 47:34
Now it is, it is wrapped. It is wrapped with a lot of other stuff.

Sheila Marie 47:37
Yeah, absolutely. But it was so important to have faith in a higher power, you know? Yeah, exactly, exactly. And then I actually was baptized. I have to tell you, my whole family was Catholic, but I wasn't. So I was so my parents divorced, and so I was baptized Episcopalian. My father brought me up in a Lutheran church with his sister meditating, yeah, right, that's right,

Alex Ferrari 48:00
And doing hypnosis, yes.

Sheila Marie 48:03
And then, and then, when I got married, I was a convert to Catholicism because I wanted to be like my family, because my whole family was Catholic, my Nana, my grandmother, I was brought up Catholic in my family, but not in the churches. And then, and then, when I became Catholic, my husband decided he didn't want to go to church anymore, so I did that route myself. Being Catholic with a Catholic girl. Yeah, right. And then I started getting into the spiritualist, which is I because I started dabbling into mediumship, and that was nice. That's where I started teaching, actually connection and but what really resonated me was Buddhism. So I was into the Buddhism and chanting, numb. You holding geiko, you know, all that Lotus Sutra. And now I'm into the Hinduism, so I'm doing all the mantras. It's not so it's along the way. Again, the foundation to coexist in the global community, so I can be helpful to other people and stuff.

Alex Ferrari 48:57
That's again, you know, you want to hear the first time I ever heard that, that the Buddhist chant. Oh yeah, I would love to hear it. The first time I ever experienced Buddhism. And this is the weirdest thing. Was watching the movie. What's Love Got To Do With It? Tina Turner's movie,

Sheila Marie 49:15
Oh, Tina Turner, oh,

Alex Ferrari 49:16
That really, that really rough movie, yeah, profound movie about Tina Turner's life, and the whole hike and the beating and all the how she came out, she was chant. Angela Bassett was doing Buddhist chanting in the movie. And I was like, what? And she was talking, yes.

Sheila Marie 49:29
And she does Nietzsche Buddhism Namu Myōhō Renge Kyō beautiful YouTubes on it.

Alex Ferrari 49:35
Oh, yeah. So that was my introduction to and

Sheila Marie 49:38
Herbie Hancock too. Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 49:41
It's, it's, it's pretty fascinating how our like I started, I started learning about I learned before I got into the next level. Sold world. Yeah, I always was curious about other religions, other philosophies, and I listened and read about everything. So I went to Buddhism, Confucianism. Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, and I just started exploring them, even Judaism, the Kabbalah,

Sheila Marie 50:06
All the Kabbalah too. I started

Alex Ferrari 50:08
Studying as much as I could, because I was just, I was just trying to figure, I'm still trying to figure it out, right, but I'm like, oh, wait a minute, all of these have that. All these roads are the same place, that's right? They're just different flavors, right? Going to the same place. But one thing I love about you and in the way you present yourself, is that the world needs a medium like you.

Sheila Marie 50:29
Oh, thank you. The reason. Oh, my God, can I quote you on I can tell my kids see someone my son doesn't want anything to do with, because he's still he's still reserved. Yeah, his father has control over him. I'm just joking.

Alex Ferrari 50:42
But the reason why I'm saying that is because, you know, a lot of times mediums and psychics, you know, will come in and they'll, they'll be the full

Sheila Marie 50:53
They play God.

Alex Ferrari 50:54
They're not only they play God, but they play the character of a psychic medium. They play the part I see. And they're, you know, they're dressed the way you think a psychic medium. They speak like a psychic medium would speak traditionally the New Age movement, of course, yep. Now you have a slight accent.

Sheila Marie 51:14
You know, my kids don't have it either. They beat it out of them in Catholic school,

Alex Ferrari 51:18
You have a slight Boston accent, and you are pretty real and grounded, but you also come from being a police officer, yeah, for 15 years, and in law enforcement for 15 years.

Sheila Marie 51:31
Want to hear something funny? Yeah, tell you something. And when I was in the police academy, I was a special state police officer and then, but I was one of two girls in the unit, and I have a nervous, you know, ADHD, but I have, if that's what they want to call, I just call it high strung. Anyways, I have, when I'm nervous, I laugh, so I'm laughing a lot. Yes, I do. I am nervous. I can't say I'm not. There's a lot of lights around me. Anyways, I'm standing there, and they're like, What is it, Bates, that was my main man. What is it? Bates, I'm like, they're like, What do you say? I'm like, sir, yes, sir. I sat laughing, and they're like, what's wrong with you? And I couldn't stop laughing. Well, one of the D eyes, he got so angry he picked up a desk and threw it across the room. Not can you. He goes tomorrow, seven o'clock in the morning. I had to be there and run three miles by myself every day for two weeks, because he was punishing me, right? Yeah, for laughing. And then he apologized on my graduation. He goes, Bates. He goes, I'm gonna give you 100 I'm like, what? He goes, I'm so sorry. I didn't realize you had a nervous tick, like laughing, and he did 100 push ups for me. I'm thinking, oh well, someone recognized it. I didn't even know I had it either at the time. You know? Yeah, that was pretty funny.

Alex Ferrari 52:40
It's kind of like the Joker. You couldn't stop laughing.

Sheila Marie 52:43
Yeah, you know, I'm, you know, I'm pissed if I'm silent, right, right, yeah, right. I'm saying nothing. There's something wrong. But thank you. You're so sweet.

Alex Ferrari 52:52
Oh, no, it's true. Because, I think, I think, you know, one of the reasons we wanted to have you on the show was because of your background. Oh, thank you, because, and that's the story, right there. Well, yeah, because a lot of people need to see themselves absolutely in these kind of conversations, you know, because if you see something, it's great to have a guru on. I've had them. They've sat in that chair, you know, and having mystics on, and having quantum physicist on, and having, you know, doctors on and stuff. But it's really important for people to see themselves, yeah, in these conversations, they're like, wait a minute, she was Catholic. She's from Boston. I'm from Boston. I know people from Boston, right? Yeah, it's a more grounded conversation, and that's what we'd like to do here. We want to demystify this a bit more and go,

Sheila Marie 53:37
Yeah, everybody, everybody, that's my mission, everybody's able to connect everyone. There's not one person that can't if they're allowing, if they willing, to do the work. And in doing the work, they have to trust their higher power, their higher face, the higher consciousness, the universe, whatever that is. They have to let go of their ego, you know, and have faith in their higher power and and also control. People don't even that's another thing I love about teaching is people don't even realize they're controlling their life, even through visions and stuff, because there's different forms of control. You know, once they let go of the control, they allowing their higher power 300% to do the work for them. There's no trick in it. All you have to do is just be, when you be, and when you allow yourself, allow the universe to do it. It's like that.

Alex Ferrari 54:28
But with that said, with that said, and I want people, because people get confused with this sometimes, okay, which is just letting the universe be, which is awesome, but you still have to work, right? You still have to get up and do it. Oh, yeah, absolutely, you have to be a participant, an active participant, in your life. You just can't sit like, Well, I'm gonna wait for Steven Spielberg to call me, to give me that no, no that next shot. Gotta keep doing your thing.

Sheila Marie 54:53
Yes, the more you practice, the more you see.

Alex Ferrari 54:56
In other words, don't sit and wait. You walk. Walk and wait, right? Yeah, because you're walking, and then as you're walking the next step, you don't even know what's coming, right, but, but the universe starts putting you a path in front of you, but you have to get up and walk

Sheila Marie 55:10
Right. Like I walked here today from Florida. Well, it's true. I my my mother. Hello, mom. And when she told me I should go on this, I'm like, okay, Mom, I'll put in for it. Here I am. I flew here and I did the I did it, you know, I flew by myself to Texas. I was scared. It's not that scary. No, I'm choosing

Alex Ferrari 55:35
Good barbecue. Yeah, vegetarian, it's true. I'm vegetarian as well, but they still have good

Sheila Marie 55:41
Sauce is good.

Alex Ferrari 55:43
They have great sauces. So I wanted to ask you, with with everything that you've been seeing, you know, all the stories, all the things I'm assuming, that you tap in for yourself, sometimes,

Sheila Marie 55:56
Sometimes, sometimes, my friends always say, why don't you do it with everything I'm like, because I need to live life. I'm here as a human being, right? And I need to have the human experience and the mediumship. I in the beginning, when I first started, I was always going in because I really wasn't, my mediumship wasn't where it is now, you know. So I was practicing all the time, everywhere. But that was not good, because I was picking up on everything in the universe. It was exhausting, you know. And as I forget what I was talking about, sorry. And so now what I do is I make sure that I'm doing my mediumship when I'm sitting down, I make my intent to the universe, and that's when I work. You know what I mean? So there is a close sign. There is Yeah, but honestly, I can, I don't ever really close. It's always the like, so,

Alex Ferrari 56:52
But so when you say mediumship, you know, I want to clarify for people, so you don't, do you? Are you seeing ghosts around or around you?

Sheila Marie 57:00
No, I'm not looking okay, do you I could if I wanted to.

Alex Ferrari 57:04
So if you like that, if you open up and you're like, Okay, who's in the room, right?

Sheila Marie 57:08
Oh, yeah, I can see already, but, but because I just asked. So it's always about your ask and your intent.

Alex Ferrari 57:13
Okay, I have to ask, who's hanging around.

Sheila Marie 57:14
Do you want to see?

Alex Ferrari 57:16
This is fun.

Sheila Marie 57:17
So I there is an older woman on your right side. She's older, she's She always wore dresses, she never wore pants, and she's like this, laughing. She's giggling. She's got a pot, and I don't know, like a there's a pot, and you know how a spoon, she's trying to feed you, and she's showing me, she's showing me pearls, and then behind you there's a man, and he's not very tall, maybe about 5'6" 5'8", and he's got big, thick hands, and he's older, he's a gentleman, and he's got dark, jet black hair. So I see the two of them enough. Yeah, I'll tell you who these people are in a minute. Oh, really. Oh, messages. I could go like that.

Alex Ferrari 57:50
I don't want to do. I'm just just, I'm just, yeah,

Sheila Marie 57:54
So, yeah. So that's who I'm seeing around you because I asked, because I asked,

Alex Ferrari 58:00
Those are both my grandparents. Oh, they literally. You describe them exactly.

Sheila Marie 58:04
And I always ask, like, like, if I like, if I am going to do a reading. I'll sit there and I'll ask my guides to connect with your guides through the whole intent. But I'll always ask for unique things too, so you'll understand it in a unique way. Everybody has a grandmother, everybody has a grandfather, right? So you want to find those unique things, two sets which is alike, I have the same, and even the full sale connection, and but you always want to find something that's unique, you know what I mean? And so, yeah, so, like, I have a blueprint in that too, you know, because I've acquired it over the years. When I first, when I first learned how to go into the mediumship world, was taught by a beautiful woman, and her name was Rita, and she was very traditional spiritualist old school, kind of like the witches and all that kind of stuff. Wicca, almost, yeah? Wicca, yeah. Well, I wasn't into that. I was Roman Catholic. I was terrified, pagan, yeah, yeah. And I was like, terrified, right? Yeah. But she was yell at me, like, in class, she's screaming, and people like, Sheila, why are you letting her yell? I'd be in tears, crying. And I told my mother up. My mom lived in Oklahoma at the time, and I said, Mom, I'm not going to take that class anymore, that mediumship class. I just can't do it. She's like, Sheila, you go to that class and you learn everything you can from that woman. I'm like, Okay, fine. So when I started teaching at the spiritualist church, I made it a totally way new way of teaching, not old school, more contemporary, where everyone is. It's just different that way. They're not crying, you know, yelling, yeah, and I don't know she, she even told me if I'm yelling you means I love you. I'm like, what was her? Waved, yeah. And I learned great from her, because of her, I am what I am today. You know what I mean? And, and I'm very grateful for that. But. Yeah. So I established my own way of contemporary way of teaching, and I just noticed the people growing and into enlightenment when they start doing it, and then they go off and do their own usually I have, like, I also do mentorship too. So, like, it's like, just one on one, and usually a student will stay for a year or two, and then they just grow into these beautiful, you know, souls, yeah, and but I'll knock them out at the knees if the Eagles in the way. I don't want them in class, I'm like, It's okay to be proud of yourself, but this is not about you. This is about the universe channeling through you. And that's the responsibility. You know what I mean? I go, you can do what you want with it, but if you're going to be in my class, it's not about you.

Alex Ferrari 1:00:39
So the question I asked is, like, so sometimes you obviously read for yourself. And I've heard from multiple so multiple channelers and psychics and mediums say it's very difficult sometimes for them to read, themselves

Sheila Marie 1:00:54
Oh, for a reading, yeah. So like, like, to read your future. Oh, like, yeah, I yeah, it can be hard because emotionally, I'm connected, you know, I have to really step out of the box.

Alex Ferrari 1:01:04
It's, it's really difficult. And it's, I've heard, I've heard from very dear friends of mine, who are channelers, are like, I can't,

Sheila Marie 1:01:10
That's when you universe won't, yeah, well, I'll ask them questions here and there, this and that, but I won't sit down. What I always what I also asked, really, this is like, like, my my trademark show me in two different ways that I'm not thinking. So I'll know, so I'll see, like, when I'm doing forensics, I'll see a flash of something that I'm not thinking. Subconsciously, I'm like, oh, and then I have to interpret it, and then show me something else I'm not thinking, oh. So then you see what I'm saying. So that's, that's my trick to doing it for myself.

Alex Ferrari 1:01:41
You know, I want to dig into something here, because this is, I feel, this is something that I have questions about, okay, and I, and I think there's a mystery around mediumship and and being a psychic and being a medium channeling is a little different. But just let's, let's stick with psychic mediumship when a lot of people think that there's a voice, then there can be a voice telling you things in your you could audibly hear it, or you could hear it in your mind. There's, depending on, there's multiple Claires, yeah, the Claire, the Claires. There's multiple Claires. You can smell. There's multiple different ways you can you can get information. But where people, I think people don't even know that they're doing it, because they've never been explained that this is that. So dreams is is base level, I think. And please correct me if I'm wrong. Okay, we all dream, right? And a lot of us have our grandparents show up in our dreams, or loved ones show up in our dreams, or we get messages in our dreams. So that's step one. That's layer one. Because we are naturally gone. We leave our bodies at night, right? Yeah, they already doing it, yeah. But when, when someone sits down in a meditation, and this has happened to me so often, and the more I talk to psychic mediums, the more I do these conversations, I'm starting to realize that I get stuff that comes in, right? Meditators have been telling me this for years. They don't have to be a psychic medium, but they'll get something called a download, or information that comes in, or an image that pops up, and this is where the ego pops in that says, Oh, you just made that up. But sometimes things are popping in. I'm like, I didn't think of that. I would have never thought of that.

Sheila Marie 1:03:17
This is what I teach in my classes. Yeah. So the whole key to understanding the connection, yes, you have your all your class C's, and what I tell everybody in class is that we do everything naturally. I don't even use definitions, because it's a clear feeling, clear cell smell, whatever it may be, getting to know your universe inside you. I call it your inner light system, you know. And so like, if you go, if you go into meditation and you start seeing things. Of course, what we need to do, and even when we're using psychic mediumship as well, we have to realize, did we think it subconsciously, or did our minds think it? Or what would spirit show it to us? You know? And again, that's where you have to be truly honest with yourself and come from a place of trust within yourself and the universe to know, did you think that subconsciously earlier in the day? Are you creating that, or are you thinking that? And that's what I teach in my classes, to recognize when that's happening, you know. And also, interpretation can be very tricky, too, you know, I always tell everyone when you see something, if you weren't subconsciously thinking, what was the first feeling you had? That's always what it is, because your mind will start creating as well too, you know, yeah, of course, yeah. And so, yes, you are receiving stuff. So how, you know is, again, if you're a medium, then you go, Okay, I saw this. Okay? So you're communicating through mediumship. So I'll have to tell you. So when I first started, I didn't like the word psychic or mediumship. Matter of fact, I hate it, and I still don't really care for it very much. Intuitive, yeah, I mean intuitive, yeah, yes, I'm connecting, right? And so I had to hide i. Struggled with that, you know, and I don't know why I'm telling you that I forget what I was talking Oh yeah. So when we start connecting, I'm trying to think, where was I going with this? Oh yeah, yeah. So when we're in mediumship, we have to ask ourselves again the two questions show me something I'm not thinking, you know what I'll do is like, say you're in a deep meditation and guaranteed you're going to see something. Because what is the first thing? What I do when I teach people is we do meditation because it connects you to your inner light system, and it allows spirit to come in, right? That was the first experience I had with stuff coming in. And then what happens later on is I teach you how to call it in all the time, you know. So what we want to do is we get into that space. And before I get into that space of meditation, sometimes what I'll do is I'll say, okay, spirit, show me something today that I need to know, that I'm not thinking. And then I close my eyes, I get into the river where I like to be, and I'll just sit back, and I'll say, Okay, show me something I'm not thinking. And then, boom, I'll see something. I'll say, I think I was seeing that subconsciously, saw me something else. Because sometimes it's hard to sit back and get relaxed enough. Not easy, no. And sometimes it is about a focus too. So like, for me, if someone's guiding me, like, say you're giving the meditation. It's a little easier, because I don't know what's coming next. Do you see what I'm saying? So it's it's a little easier for me not to think. So thinking is the problem. So the first thing you learn when you're in my classes, or you should learn anyways, is not to think anymore. Matter of fact, when we weren't in classes, I told my students, don't use the word think anymore, because if you tell me you thought this that, guess what? That means you were subconsciously thinking it, right? So that's the first thing you learn, is not to think anymore, just allowing to be be the observer. Once you're the observer, the spirit, spirit, meaning the universe, will just channel through you. You know, we'll just give you every download, what do you call it? Whatever you need.

Alex Ferrari 1:07:02
Well, I've spoken to some of the greatest screenwriters in the world, and I always ask that when I, when I when my old show, I would talk to Oscar winners and things, and I go, when you were writing, have you ever experienced something when you start to write and then you are just writing, and then afterwards you read it, and you're like, Wow, that's great. Who wrote that? Yeah, automatic writing. It's kind of like every, every single great writer I've spoken to, yeah, said the same thing.

Sheila Marie 1:07:29
Oh, yes. And, you know, Leonardo da Vinci, everybody, they were all channelers. They were channeling spirit, whether they knew it or not. You know, they were getting their inventions that were there. Get them in dreams. They'd get them. They're being divinely inspired. I have this one client of mine who's like a Leonardo. I call him Leonardo. He's got all these inventions and stuff, and he's on my concierge or whatever, and he calls me and says, Okay, Sheila, I got this from spirit. What are you getting? He's still he's using spirit, spirits downloading with him. You know,

Alex Ferrari 1:07:58
You want to hear a quick story when I started this in this example, this is the first time I kind of felt what we're talking about. Yeah, I was in I've been meditating for many years, but then I was given this task to start next level, sold by my by my teacher, my spiritual teacher I've known since I was 23 Connie. She's been on the show multiple times. She is a Spitfire. She's 92 now, and I was so dismissive of this whole idea of next level soul. I was like, insane. Why would anyone listen to me? I'm not a psychic. I'm not a near death experiencer. So I was very dismissive. But I was going to do it because I just like, I have to, because she told me to, and if I don't, things are not going to work out well. So I went into meditation before that, I said, Okay, God, literally, this is literally the way I did it. Yeah, okay, God, yes. So you want me to start this spiritual podcast? All right, great. If you want me to do this, I need a name for this company that I have the URL that no one's ever used before that is not even close to anything else in the spiritual space. Good luck, because everything has been abused to death in the spiritual space, companies and names for products and things. So good luck. I challenge you to give me something, yeah, and I go into my meditations, and towards the end of my meditation, three words pop into my head, Next Level soul, wow. And that's definitely not me.

Sheila Marie 1:09:20
I not you, and I that happened to me, my the first time that happened to me. Because I could say it's happened a couple times since then, but the I know exactly what you mean, it's amazing. It's like, oh my god.

Alex Ferrari 1:09:31
And then I got out of meditation, I looked it up. I'm like, son of a bit, URLs available, the trademarks available. I'm like, I guess I'm calling in Next Level Soul and I like, there's like, Oh, this is perfect, yeah, and I haven't, I didn't know how perfect that name was until now. Now, yeah, it unfolded. It's unfolding now. As everyone was like, that's such a grandma. And you listened and you felt it, and you moved on a quick but it was, that was the first kind of download that I can that was very visceral. That was like.

Sheila Marie 1:10:00
I hold, I can hold on, and you're still and you're holding on to it for life now, yeah, exactly, exactly.

Alex Ferrari 1:10:06
You know, people are always like, are you ever gonna sell this? Like,

Sheila Marie 1:10:09
I have to tell that part of know what I'm doing. No, it's why I'm doing it. Yeah, it's for the greater of the globe.

Alex Ferrari 1:10:15
It's not about money, it's not about money.

Sheila Marie 1:10:17
Yeah, and that's the reason what I do for me as well. People say, Oh, you could do a gallery and make $10,000 I'm looking okay, you know, if I can, that's great, but it's okay if I just do this because, or whatever I'm doing at the time, that's not as much whatever I go because I'm here to help the people. I'm here to help them connect. I'm here to help them to become who they already, already are. You know, this is this journey of light, of basically, this is our journey of the human experience, our light inside us, you know. So why not teach people how to well, that, Oh, well, they're homeless at this. So what? They're still Beings of Light, too. You know what? I mean. It doesn't matter everyone you know. And then I always get the question, well, how come about? What about the bad people, you know? And what about the bad people, all the crimes? And I said, Well, you know, people have choice. They can walk in the light, or they can walk in the darkness. You know what I mean. It's all about choice, as well as beings. Why does that happen? I don't know. You know.

Alex Ferrari 1:11:14
I'll tell you what. When I was growing up, there were moments where I could have, I could have gone the other way, right? Because of of my skills and abilities. Yeah, I could have with my pocketbook. No, I was never, but I was never like that. I never robbed anybody anything like that. But I could have gone the other way. And my wife always said she's like, wow, you, you, you had the we all have the capacity. Of course, every one of us has the capacity to be the quote, unquote good version of ourselves, right? Or the negative version or bad versions of ourselves. All of us have the ability. Yes, all of us. Yeah. You know Fidel Castro, before he took over, Cuba, wanted to be a baseball player. If the Yankees would have, would have gotten him in. I might have not been born.

Sheila Marie 1:12:02
Oh, I'll see everything. Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:12:03
I mean, because if, then my parents wouldn't have been exiled. To mention they would have never, they would have never met, because they met in the States and all this stuff, yeah, and all of that. So he if he would have been drafted, I'm not sure what would have happened, right? If different path, if Hitler would have been taken seriously as an artist, he might have not done what he did, right? Yeah, you know, there are different everyone's got a different road. And my wife told me one day she's like, you just have a good heart. You're not capable of going down that road, yeah, even though you might have the ability to, which we all do. You just don't have, you don't have the heart. And it's true, I don't, yeah, thank universe. Yeah, right, but that, but I just didn't have the heart to or I didn't have the circumstances in my life to drive me that way, whether that be environment, whether that be the programming, whether that be growing up in the wrong, wrong street.

Sheila Marie 1:13:01
Yeah, it's really interesting that you say about love, because honestly, the more I do this, everything's just about the vibration and frequency of love. It's the connection of love. And love comes in different forms too, you know what I mean, but that is the highest vibration. And I think when I first started doing all this intuitive work, I I had a hard life. My life was not easy. You know, I was in abusive relationships. Yes, I was a police officer, but I became a rape investigator, investing. I had a hard, a hard life. I was abused, I was abducted, yeah, oh yeah. I had some serious bad stuff happened to me. And, and it's okay, I'm okay. And, but at that time, it's really funny that I I use everything in those times for my cases. Now, like I understand the mindset of someone who's abused. I understand it because I lived it, yeah, and, but when I so I started the mediumship, I it was an adrenaline rush for me. I'm like, wow, this is pure love. The because it, you know, the deep meditations, it's the same thing. It's all another dimension. It's all it's all dimensional. It's all energy. And that feeling of complete love, it changes your life, life. It's like love. We know it here, but it's, it's, there's nothing like it. So I was on what they call an adrenaline energy junkie, where, that's where I was finding my peace, because it was almost like going there instead of living this heart intoxicating, yeah, and it's an adrenaline I love it still, you know,

Alex Ferrari 1:14:34
For someone watching that's gone through trauma in their lives, yeah, I think what You've said is very, very interesting, because you've gone through you when you were doing the work trying to help others. You can empathize with them because you went through it, yeah? And in this life, you needed to go through that. There's

Sheila Marie 1:14:52
That's what I was thinking. I'm like, Well, thank God I came out alive and I'm able to help, right? Yeah?

Alex Ferrari 1:14:56
But there's others who do the same work that didn't have to go through that path. Yeah. Me they did in another life, and they're bringing that in with them, but in this life you needed to go through.

Sheila Marie 1:15:04
Yeah, and it's funny, I'm sorry. I don't mean to interrupt you, but it's funny because people have said to me, Well, did you choose to be forensics because you had that trauma? No, you want to first. Are you kidding me? Why would I choose everyone to not like me and not want to be part of my life and think I'm a freak? Why the hell would I choose that, you know, but I knew in my heart that I needed to, and I, you know, I rather, and I, I was in a mill, you know, at the time, and I, you know, what is that? Groupon, you know, Groupon, I used to, and I put a Groupon, and I got all these hits, and I told my I had people come in. They would be sitting on the couch for hours. I'd be spray booked. It was, exhausted.

Alex Ferrari 1:15:41
You did a group on for readings.

Sheila Marie 1:15:42
Yeah, I was I could have gone out of I could have gone out of business in one day. I mean, was bad, you know, I know how that works. But my landlord, like, What the hell is going on?

Alex Ferrari 1:15:52
Yeah? And I said, like a scene in ghosts, like all those people walking, yeah?

Sheila Marie 1:15:57
And I said to him, I said, Yeah, right. And I was like, wow, I go, obviously it doesn't matter anymore. That had to happen to me, that flooding of that because I realized how much I was helping people.

Alex Ferrari 1:16:13
I wish I would have seen the ad on the group on, like, 50% off psychic reading, you know, and people are like, well, that's me.

Sheila Marie 1:16:22
I'm always given a discount. Might be my publicist. Don't do that. I'm like, I want to help the people that need to be helped too. You know what I mean, not everybody can afford

Alex Ferrari 1:16:31
What I find fascinating about you is, again, your background, where you came from, and the courage it took to break free from that programming.

Sheila Marie 1:16:42
I keep hearing that song in my hand. I want to break free.

Alex Ferrari 1:16:49
It is. But you, you were, you had the courage to kind of step out of the crowd, to really, I mean, I mean, I have, I've been to Boston a few times, and I've seen a lot of Boston movies. So I know it's a very tight knit, very tough, very hard, yeah, and there's no Woo, no,

Sheila Marie 1:17:17
That's right, there is no this or that.

Alex Ferrari 1:17:19
It's, it's Boston. Yeah, it's no whatsoever in Boston. Boston. He's in New York. I'm gonna get some coffee and go through the door coffee. But you decided to, not only you know, obviously it, broke your relationship apart, your marriage apart. It put people away like you push people away, not push me. Yeah, people pulled away from you because you're just so weird. It took, it takes a tremendous amount, as my people say, cojones, to do that. And I have to applaud you for really just listening to your inner voice and saying, I have to do this. Yeah, because there's so many people listening right now who are on the fence. Yeah, they didn't under had whatever. Yeah, it doesn't have to be psychic medium. Can be anything. It could be starting a business. It could be just going against the group, which is probably the greatest fear a human has, because if you're ousted, on an evolutionary standpoint, if you're ousted from the tribe, you die, yeah? Because you need the tribe to survive. That's the right. We're wired that way. Yeah, that's why public speaking is where it's number one, yeah, right behind death. Yeah, it's true. Ostrich, public speaking is the biggest fear in humanity, and then comes down, yeah, that's true for the most part, yeah, because they're afraid of being ostracized from the tribe, right? And I was, and you were ostracized from your tribe,

Sheila Marie 1:18:53
Yeah! And it was not easy, and I just had to look forward. And I also knew in my heart I had strong faith that got me through everything like

Alex Ferrari 1:19:06
But not true, not the faith you grew up with different version of that, or both.

Sheila Marie 1:19:09
Well, no, both. So when I, when I was in those bad relationships, when I was St Michael, got me through that, sure you know what I mean, and and I would, and I would, you know, you know how you get down. Cry me, you know, crying, what am I going to do? You know, St Michael helped me through that, you know, and so the saints, so my I always had a strong faith in God, the universe, whatever it was that was guiding me and leading me. I knew that that higher consciousness may be the self conscious of whatever it is has got my back, and because of the way I was, I had things happen to me throughout my young life, all the way, you know, into my 20s, I always had that, and I always had signs, you know what I mean? So that's I look at it this way. When I made that transition, I said, Well, you know what? I need to do this, because shame on me people can connect, shame on me for not teaching people connect when I can. And not only that, I knew I could help people, and shame on me for not trying, not helping people as well, but I knew that I was being guided. And like I through my faith, you know, like I knew that my faith had my back, you know?

Alex Ferrari 1:20:22
And that is, I want to really spotlight what you just said, because it's so important your mindset determined the path that you walked. Your mindset is the universe has my back. Yeah, I'm being guided. I'm being protected, regardless of what's in front of me, right? So even if I'm going through something difficult, there's a reason for it. I might not like it right now, that's right, but you will appreciate it, right? And you know, it's not a hunky dory for me all the time, right? It's not hunky dory for anybody all the time, right? Yeah, but if you come with the mindset like this is for a reason, yeah, I have to go through this, right? I don't know why I'm going through this, but I understand that this is something I have to go through, and that the universe has my best intentions, right in mind, yeah. And that mindset will change your life.

Sheila Marie 1:21:13
Yeah. You got to have faith 100% in whatever that you believe in the universe, God Allah, whoever it is, whatever it is your high conscious, because that's part of connecting, you know, letting go and letting God, in a sense, you letting go and letting I use, I don't try to use God for everyone. I say the universe, you know, letting go. Yeah, it's a trigger word, yes, yeah. So I say letting go and let letting universe, letting the universe, you know, your higher consciousness. That's part I have. Those are part of the keys to connecting to your inner light system. Your inner light system is the energy around you, the chakras, the energy within you, without around you, everywhere,

Alex Ferrari 1:21:53
Like, what's that I have to find out? Like, oh, Sheila's coming.

Sheila Marie 1:22:00
Well, it's really funny, they all came to me, my family, because I was the only girl in the family, because traditional Portuguese, you know, and so everyone would come to me

Alex Ferrari 1:22:09
Portuguese Boston, yeah?

Sheila Marie 1:22:12
And half Italian, half Italian Portuguese. That's the highest drunk comes in. I'm like, well, and the hands, yeah, right, that's why I'm rubbing a rock right now. I'm, like, trying to control my hands.

Alex Ferrari 1:22:22
So real quick, before you continue that story about Thanksgiving, you have a rock in your hand. I do. So I want people to, because someone's going to say something about it in the comments, because I'm hitting it, rubbing it, rubbing sometimes you leave it on the table. So can you tell the story of what that was so people understand that rock?

Sheila Marie 1:22:35
Yeah. Oh, so today, today, what we did, yeah, I was looking for a rock. I need everywhere I go. I always get a rock and I use it for grounding. And it's almost like my nervous rock, or I don't call it what you will.

Alex Ferrari 1:22:49
It's a fidget spinner, yeah.

Sheila Marie 1:22:51
Fidget spinner, yeah. And so I always have a rock everywhere I go and wherever I visit, because it's energy. It grounds me. And so today I came and I said, Alex, I need a rock. He's like, what? And I'm like, oh, let's go outside. I'm like, you picked the rock, and he's giving me, like, a brick.

Alex Ferrari 1:23:08
I gave you, like, plaster.

Sheila Marie 1:23:09
No, that's not it. It has to be a rock from you. It has to be real. So he found this rock, and so I've been rubbing it. It's not dirty anymore, probably my hands, but it helps me to ground me. And also it's, I always will have this rock, you know, from my experience with you as well. And yeah, so that's my thing. In my studio, I have a big basket of rocks that my students will go and get all over the world. They bring them to me. Oh, you can use this for your readings, because I always have a rock in my hand. And yeah. And when I travel instead of buying things, I always ask the universe for a rock. Matter of fact, when I actually had a studio and bought and Medway mass, but I recently relocated, and I had a meditation studio there for 12 years, and I had this big chest of rocks and crystals, and I was crying. I didn't want my rocks ago. I'm like, Okay, I know that sounds weird, but I had such memory with them, you know. And so what I did was, is I asked the universe to bless each rock, and I my my mill was right next to a river and a small little river Creek, where you want to call it, and I, I blessed, asked the universe to bless every rock and crystal, and I was there for an hour throwing them all. They're all in that river. Now, my landlord knows, but there's nice crystals in there and everything. People might go diving, but they're all in that little river, a chicken Brook. Yeah. So, yeah, sorry.

Alex Ferrari 1:24:28
So back. So I just wanted to clarify that, because people are like, Why is this woman holding on to a rock?

Sheila Marie 1:24:33
You always see me doing that, and I'll have it in my pocket or something, or, you know,

Alex Ferrari 1:24:37
All right, so Thanksgiving. So they come to you.

Sheila Marie 1:24:39
Oh, yeah. So my parents usually come to me, but we never, and the whole family, we would never, ever talk about mediumship. No one would ever bring up that I was a Psych and what I did because they were still living that human life that I'm the daughter and they're all lives are important, but we never brought up anything that I would

Alex Ferrari 1:24:55
Even to this day. Yeah, so they it's like just not spoken about. It's just not spoken about.

Sheila Marie 1:25:00
Well, yeah, but, but if I have, like, like, say I'm coming here or I'm going, not my mother, my that's my dad's side. You know that? You know, but your mom seems pretty chill. Yeah, she's a hippie, but she doesn't, can't connect, you know what I mean, but she tries, and she does meditations, but she's not, you know she's, you know, she's my mom. But I don't, I know she's gonna watch this after behave. She's also the one that told you to, yeah, she's my guy. She's my guy, someone that told you to submit to next Yeah, she did. Yeah. She's, I said, Oh, what's, what's a good show for me to go, go on next level, he's the best. I'm like, okay, and just for shits and giggles, I put in for it. And there I am. I'm like, okay, it does work. Yeah. I'm like, okay, yeah. And yeah. So, yeah. So I they're still like,

Alex Ferrari 1:25:47
They're in denial, if you will, or they just don't

Sheila Marie 1:25:49
I think. They've accepted it more now, like my brother has, and people have, and they've grown too, because they've had no choice but to

Alex Ferrari 1:25:56
Imagine as people. This is when I find people are really open to mediumship when someone dies, oh, or when someone's dying.

Sheila Marie 1:26:05
Oh, my gosh, I was on this radio show, and, matter of fact, with Christian Fourier, Lou Marino and Glen Ordway, they're like Boston sports people, okay, for years like big that went on their live radio show and as a psychic medium. And I'm not kidding you, it was dark like this in here, and they had tea lights everywhere. That's all that was on. And I'm like, oh, it's the first time I've ever been with a room with tea lights, with three guys. They're laughing. And so anyways, make a long story short, Glen Ordway was not open to mediumship at all. And he's like, it's like, well, yeah, she looks normal. She has normal clothes on. And they were asking me questions about will Tom Brady, go, go. This is the reason why I was on. They wanted to know if he was staying with the Patriots, if he wasn't. And so a lot of the things came true in that podcast, which was great, but it was all under interpretation, you know, and, but anyways, Glenn Ordway did not believe in anything, so I said to him at the end, I said, this is not not on air. I said, he says, oh, it's really nice meeting you, even though I don't believe in those stuff. I said, it's okay, Glenn. I put my hand. I said, when you need me, I'll be there for you. He's like, Well, I won't need you. I said, Don't say that, because you may need me, and when you do, I'm there for you. It's free reading. Free reading. Well, because that's exactly what happens people. Someone dies, and all of a sudden they want to talk to them that, you know what I mean, and

Alex Ferrari 1:27:27
They're much more, yeah, yeah. They want to, like, what happened to grandma? Yeah?

Sheila Marie 1:27:31
And that that's what happens, yeah? So yeah, that happens all the time, yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:27:35
And that's, that's when I find that people are very, very interested, yeah, in it, because at that point they're just like, I want to talk to grandma. Yeah, you know she okay.

Sheila Marie 1:27:44
Oh, my God, this is really funny. This was before I was doing mediumship. I don't I was in my late 20s, and my friend says to me, oh, did you know, you know John Edwards? He is psychic medium famous, yeah. And she goes, Oh, there's this guy. I think I was 20 years old, and he's on rate, and he'd see spirits. I'm like, I don't believe that crap. Do you you back in the day? Yeah. And she's like, Oh, come on. I was in Pennsylvania visiting her. She goes, come on, let's watch it on television. And you know, he's doing his thing. And I'm like, there's just and I sat there and I'm thinking, Okay, well, she could have known this. She could have known that. You know what I mean, going through all the everything I'm missing, and now I look up to him, like, Wow, he's really great. Do you know what I mean? Because I can understand what he's doing.

Alex Ferrari 1:28:29
It's amazing how the world works. Yeah, it is. Now, speaking of the world, I'd love to hear your thoughts on where we're all heading, because it seems like it's a little bit cray. Right now. And there's a lot of people who are afraid about, you know, the future and where we're all going and stuff like that. And I don't need predictions or anything like that. I just generally speaking of humanity as a whole consciousness. I think we're more awakened now than we've ever been.

Sheila Marie 1:28:57
Oh yeah, in our lifetime, even though the last six months,

Alex Ferrari 1:29:01
It's been last well past five years.

Sheila Marie 1:29:03
What do they call it Aquarius? Something?

Alex Ferrari 1:29:05
Yeah, now we're entering the Age of Aquarius, yeah.

Sheila Marie 1:29:08
So, like, I don't really keep up on a lot of that stuff, like my students do, and they tell me, and so I don't need to, but I I'm feeling that, you know, we're all beings of light, you know? And, yes, it is like Star Wars, the good against evil, you know, the dark side of the dark side and light side, yeah. And it's just like that. And especially, it's more now prominent because of the internet, because now we're connected, yeah, we're all connected. We and we can talk to people in other countries. It wasn't like it was 60 years ago, 60 20 Yeah. 20, yeah, you're right. 30 years ago, you know what I mean. But like

Alex Ferrari 1:29:47
95 it was dial up.

Sheila Marie 1:29:51
And so I my thought is, you know, even if you go back hundreds of years ago, we all thought that the moon, you know, when there's an eclipse, they'd all. Be out there, shaking at the moon, yelling at the moon, right? Because I'm happy with it, yeah. And so I honestly feel that as hard at times as it is, we have to go through these hard times to get to the light there will always be negative and positive I feel because, again, they balance each other out. You know what I mean? It's a matter. You know what I mean, but

Alex Ferrari 1:30:20
Would you agree that, if there's I've noticed this, and this is an equilibrium of the universe. Universe is about balance, right? You can just see it in nature, right? It's perfectly balanced. And ecosystem is perfectly balanced, yeah, until we screw it up. But everything's bound. Universe is perfectly balanced, solar systems and so on. So when there is a great negative force that arises, we'll call that, we'll say World War Two, okay, yeah, there was a great negative force that could have easily taken over the planet, right? But then the equal positive side came up to fight it, yep. But that that didn't exist without this

Sheila Marie 1:31:01
Actually, you have to have both to go forward.

Alex Ferrari 1:31:03
So, even when something really negative happens in the world, there is a positive reaction to it to balance it out. So there is no fear. I don't have any fear of of something completely covering, you know,

Sheila Marie 1:31:18
Yeah, I wouldn't look at it this way, like, you know, we live in the universe. We live in space. A lot of it is fear, and we create the fear. Yes, we can create bad things to happen. We can manifest this in that. But I feel that, you know, there is a rise of consciousness. But there, it's not nothing new, because we've already been conscious, but we're more awakened. Some of us are, and some of us still are not, and may never choose to be in this, yeah, in this life. But I truly don't believe that it's the end all, because, again, it's never the end all here. There's no such thing as time. This is just one spot in our journey, our whole lifetime. Here is one dream. That's what I feel like like, so if I go in my head like every like, your whole journey here is just one dream. Do you know what I mean? This is just one spot in our in our enlightenment, you know? And so I understand where you're coming from, civilians, where people are it's the end of the world, where all the yes, we see it, the chaos isn't that because we're living it more. We're socialized and conditioned the Doom scrolling, yeah, oh my gosh. So our minds are controlling it. It's creating more than have yes it there's bad, yes, there's good and yes there is change, yes, there is higher consciousness. And this is beautiful, but at the same time, it's been happening for 1000s of years.

Alex Ferrari 1:32:38
But now so in other words, before, when we lived in a village 1000s a year ago, we wouldn't know what happened two miles or three miles away, there could be a war going on.

Sheila Marie 1:32:46
Exactly. And, you know, I travel, and what I've noticed also through my travels is, you know, like I'm out in India and Europe, whatever other other countries, our country is very young here in this western world, and we don't even, some people don't even realize that that like when I go to India there, there's certain parts of India they're already higher the whole town, the whole community, the whole states, they're already higher consciousness. They're already living like this because they've been doing it for 1000s of years. Our western world is a guinea pig. You know, what we've created here in our Western worlds, our way of thinking, our way of spirituality, is not what exists all around the world. You know, absolutely, yeah and, but I didn't realize that till I traveled like I knew it, but I didn't know it, yeah. So I'm like, Oh, yeah. So we, we, it's a hard play. We're still trying to figure things out here in the Western world. You know what? I mean, we're already, they have it figured out of other places, you know,

Alex Ferrari 1:33:48
It's, it's interesting, because the US, specifically in the Western world. I mean, when I when you go to Europe, you know, you walk around and you're like, look at that building. It was built in eight I'm like, oh, eight. Oh, well, our drywall was from 1975 and we think that's kind of thing, you know, we're very young, yeah, oh, yeah. But we grew so fast, right? Really grew so fast after World War Two. We really kind of took over in many ways around the world, as far as a power is concerned. But we are live. We are at the forefront of the three dimensional world, right? Yeah, there really isn't any. I mean, you could argue China now, you could definitely argue Japan, but on the size scope, we're the largest country that's on the edge of the cutting edge of the three dimensional world, right? We have the three dimensional world, the technologies, the comforts, all of that. We're pretty ahead, yeah, in many ways. I'm not saying, Please everyone with the comments. There are other countries in the world. Europe absolutely is other. Yeah. But. The West

Sheila Marie 1:35:00
Right were ahead of all that. Yeah, agreed.

Alex Ferrari 1:35:03
But India and in the east is really ahead in the consciousness standpoint, where they're not as ahead in the materialistic right? It's changing. The US has kind of invaded a lot, or the Western thought has invaded a lot. Yeah, kind of sad, actually. Yeah, a lot of you know there's McDonald's in India.

Sheila Marie 1:35:25
Yeah, I went there. I'm like, everything was vegetarian, yeah, there's no hamburger. But I'll be honest with you, when I go to India and when I see American stuff, I'm because, I'm like, I'm trying to come over here spiritually, right, and to find that piece. And they're trying all to get to America, where they don't understand that there. There's the disconnect here.

Alex Ferrari 1:35:46
But now, one thing I've noticed is that it's becoming more global. So it's now, so before, our main export was our culture, right? The US is main export was our culture. So movies, our music, right? Our art. That was, that was for many, many years, probably since, I probably say probably since the war, since World War Two. Yeah, I would say that maybe a little earlier, that the world all wanted what the US had. Yeah, where nowadays it's you're Japan has a huge influence. Yeah, South Korea has a huge influence. Other countries have huge influences globally now, right brands, Global Ideas, global right storytelling. I mean, you're looking at what's next. We've done it all right, right? So it's everything. Now it's time to get back into the higher consciousness. So now we're like, exactly, we're really evolved on a three dimensional standpoint. And now AI is doing a whole lot of other stuff. I think people are starting to figure out that, like, no, no. I they're like, no, no, I need to go, this isn't enough,

Sheila Marie 1:36:45
Right! And less is more, actually.

Alex Ferrari 1:36:48
And that's where people are starting to realize, do I really need all of this?

Sheila Marie 1:36:52
Yeah, and I want to say also that what bothers me as a guru, spiritual leader, whoever, whatever you want to call me today, is that people think that there's a certain way that they have to connect. Do you know what I mean? Connect to the other side? Yeah, or your higher self, if you don't, yeah, if you don't do it this way, you're not going to connect, right?

Alex Ferrari 1:37:15
You don't have to. We all don't have to go to the Himalayas, yeah, and meditate for 24 days, yeah? Or 24 years, right? Yeah, that's one way.

Sheila Marie 1:37:25
Yeah, yeah. And so we're already connected. People need to understand that they're already light inside them, that energy, that personality, whoever they are, is who they are. You're already connected to the consciousness around you. Everything is energy, everything is frequency, everything is vibration. If I could level this up, I would, you know, as the deeper meditation.

Alex Ferrari 1:37:50
Yeah, that would be an amazing maybe I should do that one day, just like a visual effect.

Sheila Marie 1:38:00
So my thing is, like, there you don't have to learn a certain way. Yes, I you can come to my classes, or your come to the podcast, we can learn certain things and techniques, but you're already connected. You're already a being of light.

Alex Ferrari 1:38:13
Yeah, there's 1000 meditations. Yeah, there's more than that. There's millions of different kinds,

Sheila Marie 1:38:23
And you don't even need that to connect, because you already are light, right?

Alex Ferrari 1:38:23
Yeah, there's just different paths to go down that yeah, each path is going to teach you different Yeah, things,

Sheila Marie 1:38:27
Yeah. And I feel that a Spirit speaking through me right now. I think, no, but I feel, I feel like I'm not in deep trance, but I can feel it because I know I'm like, why? What are you saying, Sheila? But I just feel like there will always be change here in the universe, in our worlds, and that's part of our growth, of our universe, but here of our higher consciousness. But there will always be change. There'll always be negative. They'll always be positive, even though things are going to the greater good, because people will find that that's mucky. They won't agree with that either. You know what I mean. But there will always be change here, because that's what the human experience is here, this where we are here, you know? And people say, Oh, well, we're getting better. Yes, we are, absolutely, but they got better in the 70s too, when they want LSD, you know what I mean? Yeah, 60s, 70s. So it's just a matter of change, yes. Is it more aware? Yes, because of religions, breaking down this and that, and these kind of conversations, yeah, yeah, yeah. And a way of things deteriorating to make good in light. And always, everything that's happening is light is coming out, you know, light is coming out from everything. And so that's the outcome, ultimately, is the light, you know. And light in the good way, you know. And then the connection of the universe, you know. But I feel that there'll always be turmoil here, not in a you know, there will always,

Alex Ferrari 1:39:51
There'll be a different variations of it. So like perfect example right now, you and I are an air conditioned room, very comfortable. Beautiful, you know, nice seats that are, you know, that are built for our backs. Yeah, everything's beautiful. But there's, there's humans experiencing, right now in an Amazon, right now in a tribe, right? Same time period, that's very different experience, right?

Sheila Marie 1:40:17
Absolutely. And, you know, when I go to India, you know, I've, I've I've seen similar things like that in villages. Isn't that and it all comes down to love and kindness and connection, and it's about food. It's down to the nitty gritty of shelter. You got your health, you got shelter. And what else do you need? You have water, you know, and connection. And they're so connected to everything, more they see things more clearly, because they don't have all the disturbances, yeah, and it's noise, yeah? And so it's kind of beautiful, you know,

Alex Ferrari 1:40:53
I've gotten actually, like, you know, the holidays is a rough time for me, because everyone's asking me, What can I get you? I'm like, I don't want anything, yeah, my kids. Drives them nuts. I'm like, I want you guys to be nice to each other.

Sheila Marie 1:41:04
Do you know what I do to my kids as well I did for Mother's Day anyways, because I don't want anything either, because I am a nomad. I really am a nomad now, and I I don't even live in Florida. I live everywhere, right? And so for Mother's Day the last two years, I said, Okay, sit down my two grown kids, and I gave them each my book that I had given to them, you know, when I made the book. And I said, Okay, let's read a paragraph. Because I know they haven't written read my book yet. And so each one of them, I make them read a paragraph of my book, right? And I go, if I dedicated this book to you, at least you can read it. Yeah, that's fast, yeah, that's that's my gift to them and a gift to you. I mean, my gift to myself. Yeah, I'm like, Okay, now you can go do what you want.

Alex Ferrari 1:41:52
I do believe that a certain I mean, at least for me, as I'm getting older, I'm just, I'm just starting to, I don't want things anymore. Things are irrelevant.

Sheila Marie 1:42:02
It's all about the connection. It's all about the love connection and the energy, and it's about the experience. That's why I came here today. It's a good I've done it on Zoom, yeah, but I want to experience you. I want to experience your wife. I want to experience the you know what I mean? No, seriously, I want to experience it, you know.

Alex Ferrari 1:42:15
Ohh this is so much more, you know, vivid, lively, than it would be on Zoom. Yeah, Zoom is great. But this is a different energy, yeah, being in the space, being in the room, being in the energy, a lot of people pick up on the energy when they walk in this room, because of all the people who've been here, yeah, stuff that's happened in here.

Sheila Marie 1:42:35
I love it. I seen it on on your every night. I think it's like 10 past 12. I always get my thing on Instagram, you know, oh yeah, my real I'm like, oh, what's on today? Someone else died and they came back. But I saw, you know, you're awake. Thing, like, Oh, just a few minutes ago. I'm like, Oh, this Baba. And I'm thinking, Oh yeah, I'm on this. I'm like, where am I right now? I forget, because the lights on my Wow.

Alex Ferrari 1:43:00
One thing that's really interesting is a lot of people who who do Doom scrolling, or they watch the news, or Yeah, and they and they start getting wrapped up in the fear, oh, yeah, they don't. I need them to think about something for a second that most of us, not everybody, are in a room that's safe. Yeah? So you're seeing war, you're seeing politics, you're seeing other things on your screens, and you're getting all nervous and fight or flight, and, you know, paranoid that's all in your mind,

Sheila Marie 1:43:34
Absolutely, literally in the chat or the monkey mind.

Alex Ferrari 1:43:37
You're literally in a safe room, most, not everybody. If bombs are going off in your neighborhood, that's not who I'm talking to, yeah, but the majority of people don't have bombs going off and right? Yeah, and you're generally in a safe space. Generally, it's all in your mind. You're creating that reality.

Sheila Marie 1:43:56
My gosh, everything you listen to, everything you see, all the content. Yeah, it's so I can't tell you how many times I've told my kids as they were being raised, don't listen to that. Oh my god, your mind and the thing, Oh, your mind. You're crazy. But it's true. It's all vibration. It's all frequency. You create your own world.

Alex Ferrari 1:44:13
There's things I watched when I was a kid that I can't watch now.

Sheila Marie 1:44:16
Oh yeah, I won't watch anything like that, like because I'll have nightmares.

Alex Ferrari 1:44:22
Energetically, I can't, I can't deal with it, yeah? Like, but I have fond memories of when I watched it,

Sheila Marie 1:44:28
Yeah, my ex used to always watch the news all day, you know, and I would scream, oh, my God, just turn it off. Turn it off because I don't want to know. I don't want to hear if it's because it's energy.

Alex Ferrari 1:44:39
Wayne Dyer said this once is, like, if it's important enough news, it'll get to me. Absolutely, yeah, you don't need to watch the news. That's right, yeah, if it's important enough, you'll know it, someone will say something, right? Because the universe is providing for you all the time, yeah? Like, there's, you know, the US had the whole thing with Venezuela a few days. Oh, yeah, that's right. I didn't, I didn't know. Had no idea because I didn't see and somehow it got to me. I'm like, Oh, really, yeah. Then I looked it up. I was like, Oh God, geez, yeah.

Sheila Marie 1:45:07
And then I can either take this to heart, I could keep what I'll have it. You know, it's really interesting. I like to go walking. You know, in the last two weeks I have not walked, and shame on me, but I just have not, and I'll tell you the reason why, because my monkey mind was watching Facebook, this and that, and late at night, they were telling everybody what to do, not to do when you walk in, because you're gonna be kidnapped. I got so freaked out, I stopped walking.

Alex Ferrari 1:45:30
Isn't that insane?

Sheila Marie 1:45:31
Yeah. And I said, Sheila, what are you doing?

Alex Ferrari 1:45:33
Has anyone been abducted in your

Sheila Marie 1:45:35
No, not at all.

Alex Ferrari 1:45:35
Of course, exactly.

Sheila Marie 1:45:37
And I think, yeah, you create you can create it too. Oh, so it's important.

Alex Ferrari 1:45:41
I mean, I don't know about you, but during that interesting time in 2020, I was wiping down Amazon boxes. You remember, you remember it when we all were in the house together, I was wiping down because that's what they told us to do. I was like, I was freaked out. Oh, my God, we were wiping down mine's insane.

Sheila Marie 1:46:02
I bleached my whole house

Alex Ferrari 1:46:04
Like you were doing crazy stuff because of the fear. And it was all control. It was really interesting.

Sheila Marie 1:46:11
And now you don't know what's real and what's not. What's AI or not?

Alex Ferrari 1:46:14
It's getting really it. I can still tell, because I have a train die visually, but sometimes it's done so well that you're like, yeah, like, I'll see a little cat walking up to a door and it's a doorbell camp. That's when the doorbell camps. It's a cat. What? Like, Oh, that's cute. And, like, all of a sudden it pulls out a machine gun, just starts shooting, or something like that, at a squirrel. And I'm like, oh, that's AI, yeah. But sometimes just don't know,

Sheila Marie 1:46:39
Like, in video games, you know, that's different and but I think that is what's I feel really bad for the young generation right now, because they were all brought up on that, and it's all violence, you know, and so their reality that they're creating, and, you know, with poor people that are getting shot, you know, in the United States recently, and it's from all that they're like, it's accepted. You know, when my kids were in Catholic school, they were bomb threats at the school. It's that, Oman, that happens all the time. No, it doesn't happen. It never happened to me. This is this new generation. It's and I feel so sad for them, because they don't understand that that's not that shouldn't happen.

Alex Ferrari 1:47:17
There's these little AI Instagram someone makes something like, Hey, I'm talking to you from the 80s. And it's like them like, Oh, you must suck where you're at right now, because here we don't have the internet. We go out and talk to our friends. We eat real food. Oh, my God, I can go to McDonald's because it's still meat, that kind of stuff. It's just, you sit there, like, it's a nostalgia thing. That's one of the reasons why I think Stranger Things did so well, oh, because it's just, like, when we grew up, yeah. Like, it's, it's really accurate. Yeah, it was really accurate.

Sheila Marie 1:47:52
Yeah, I remember even the clothes and the comb in the back pocket.

Alex Ferrari 1:47:55
I mean, it was done so beautifully. But that nostalgia of like, oh man. Like they say, yeah, there's, there's a term that says peak, the peak of humanity was the 90s. Wow, that was the peak. That's peak humanity. That was right before the internet took over, before social media. To ourselves, I had webmail, no web, something. Yeah, there was some internet, but the social media, yeah, yeah. Had not, oh gosh, social media that there was no social media in the 90s. Social media really didn't come in until, I think early 2000s when MySpace came out. Oh, my space. Oh, that kind of stuff, yeah. But, you know, people were still talking to each other. People were still eating semi real food, right?

Sheila Marie 1:48:35
They were still going on dates. And I found and I found out where real dates in person dates, right?

Alex Ferrari 1:48:41
But I found out where that term came from. I saw it in the movie. It was in the matrix. I love the matrix in 99 when, if I came out Morpheus, when he's explaining why they chose the 90s to be the place where it was, because it was peak humanity. Now they did it, obviously, because that was the time they did it, they had no idea what was coming. The filmmakers, they said peak humanity was the 90s, and that's when everyone was like, son of a I don't believe, yeah, I don't believe where people I loved the matrix. That was really, really great. It's my number one movie, yeah. What if I told you? What if I told you that? Blue pill, red pill. Yeah. So let me ask you this for someone so someone who's watching right now and is going through an awakening and is confused as hell, is scared because of their religious background, or of the fear of being ostracized, losing like that, or losing their family, losing their marriage, losing their kids because of it. That's a real serious fear. I get it, yeah. What advice would you have for them?

Sheila Marie 1:49:49
Well, my thing is, you always follow what you feel is right for yourself and also your loved ones around you. In case it's, you know, a bad circumstance, you know. But. Uh, you have to be true to yourself. You have to be true to yourself because you're the one who's living your own journey. You know, I used to say people don't come to my house for coffee and tea, so they don't have a right to tell me what to do with my life, right? Yeah, and that's really what it comes down to. But you have to be true to you, because this is your journey. You can't live your journey for other people. Yes, you have to take care of your children, but every experience is your experience, and it's what you make of it. And and our lifetime here in this human experience is very short, and because it's dimensional, yeah, so it's okay, but you need to make every second count. You know, because our can, our journey keeps continuing, even after this journey here we're in our life experience as a human, so it's never ending. There's no such thing as time. So it's important for you to recognize that you are on your journey. You come into this world alone and naked, and you leave the same, and it's very short experience. So what, how do you see the outcome of your experience? Where do you want to be in a year? Where do you want to be in a month or the next day? And you're the one who has to make that happen. You can't allow you. Can't wait for someone else to do it for you. You have to make the balls rolling, you know, start the ball rolling itself. But also just being true to you and the best friend you can ever have in this world is yourself. Don't expect anything from anyone as friendship, even relationships. The only person that can give you what you need is you, right? Powerful, yeah, and, and once you recognize that, it'll put you on a different wavelength, where the universe can work with you, and you can work with the universe and know that you're on your journey. You know, yeah, that's what I'm feeling.

Alex Ferrari 1:52:02
So I'm gonna tell you a story you were saying about no time. Time doesn't exist. Yeah, there's actually a place on earth that there is no time it doesn't exist. It's a little island off the coast of Norway where there's six months of light and, oh, really, months of dark and, oh, there's no time. Like, time doesn't exist there in a traditional standpoint. Okay, so what people who live on this small island do is they take their watches off and they hang them on the bridge, and they're all locked in the bridge, and it's a way for them to signify that I've given time away. Yeah, oh, wow, that's really cool. And there's people are like, playing soccer at three o'clock in the morning because it doesn't

Sheila Marie 1:52:43
It doesn't last. Yeah, it's so true.

Alex Ferrari 1:52:46
Kids, kids are going to school at whatever time, like there's no time. There's no time, so everything just kind of exists.

Sheila Marie 1:52:54
Yeah, and that's really what we are here, because everything we as humans have created all and socialized people to be a certain way for control, you know, from the beginning of times here. And that's not who we're meant to be. We're just have we're meant to be in that no time space in every form you know. And when you're meditating, you're in that no time, that's right, and it's wonderful, and you can do it anywhere you know. And that's what I love at any time at right? You know, I had eye surgery recently, and I lost some sight in my eye and but I didn't tell you, I tell you now, and I did a lot of meditating and stuff, you know what I mean. So I'm like, Okay, well, I can't see how that, but I'm meditating still, you know what I mean. And so what I'm trying to say is, even though my outer eyes are not great, my inner eyes are, are sharp as hell, yeah. And I go everywhere, you know, that's so beautiful. Yeah, it's awesome.

Alex Ferrari 1:53:46
Where can people find out more about you?

Sheila Marie 1:53:48
My website is the best place. It's sheilamariemedium.com, and I hate that word, because I didn't like to use psychic medium, but I have to in order for them to find me, you know? So sheilamariemedium.com and I have my book is called Forensic Medium: The power of the unseen, and that's on Barnes and Noble. There's an ebook and a paperback, and also on Amazon.

Alex Ferrari 1:54:12
Yeah. And do you have any final messages for people listening that will be seen now and in the future, a message to help them get through whatever they're getting need to get through.

Sheila Marie 1:54:24
Just know that you're loved, you know, and and the universe loves you. You're never, I want to say you're never alone. The universe is always with you. You know, the sun and the moon and always there. Just look up at the sun and the moon. You know, when I'm in India or wherever I look up, it's the same moon, it's the same sun. You know, you're and the universe will give you that love and that connection that you need. So get outside and go outside. Go for a walk. Go sit outside. If you have to hear the elements, feel the elements, be part of that. You're already part of the universe. But. It, they'll, the universe will teach you, you know, if you look at a leaf, everything you need to know is in that leaf, if you really pay attention to it, so it so getting outside and knowing that you don't have to be like everybody else. Because if we were, what a boring place it would be, right? You know, so just be you.

Alex Ferrari 1:55:20
Yeah, beautifully said Sheila it's such a pleasure. It's been such a pleasure having you here.

Sheila Marie 1:55:24
I'll put my rock down now. Thank you.

Alex Ferrari 1:55:27
Thank you so much for being here.

Sheila Marie 1:55:29
Oh, thank you for having me. It was wonderful to meet you. Thanks so much. Thank you.