Finding your purpose in life allows you to live a life of purpose. Rebekah tapped into her passion for film in 2009 and rebirth a whole new meaning to her life that has led her to build a successful business consultant in Hollywood.
She is an award-winning consultant and media personality with more than 10 years of consulting experience. Rebekah is famously known as Dr. Rebekah Louisa Smith. And that is because she did earn a Doctorate degree during a previous life in academia which for a long time was her sole focus in life until she recognized the absence of fulfillment and passion on that path for her.
Over the last 10+ years, and with help from a supportive team, Rebekah company has won more than 900 awards for their clients and one Oscar nomination.
I really wanted to bring Rebekah on to share techniques she has employed in her life, to marry her spirituality and business so admirably.
Her secret, which you will hear in detail during our chat, is being pragmatic and accepting that money is not the focal point of one’s journey. In fact, it is not about being wealthy but about what you do. Growing your worth allows you to reap the financial rewards in her experience.
Rebekah is a highly spiritual person. She centers herself through manifestation, cosmic ordering, and energetic branding.
You have to check out her book, Born to Do It: Becoming the Leader of a Business Niche Using Powerful Spiritual Techniques. It is a compilation of hard-won knowledge from experiences, aimed at helping aspiring entrepreneurs or business owners to attract more success and profitability.
It was a pleasure speaking to Rebekah. Enjoy!
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Alex Ferrari 0:17
I'd like to welcome to the show, Rebecca Louisa Smith. How are you doing, Rebecca.
Rebekah Louisa Smith 0:21
I'm good. How are you?
Alex Ferrari 0:23
I'm very good. I'm very good. I'm so happy to have you on the show. Because we were going to talk about, you know, spirit, not only spirituality, but business and spirituality and branding and spirituality, and all of this kind of stuff, which is generally not something that's connected, you know, money and in spirituality. You know, ever since that one little phrase in the Bible, everyone thinks that you can't be rich and spiritual, or you can't be of service to other people. And, and you have to be a poor, you know, penniless, you know, person, and there are those that that is one path to go. But I feel that there's a lot of a lot of things we could discuss about that. So, before we get started, why did you Why do you think I want to ask you a big question, first of all, to start right off? Why do you think so many people around the world are so unhappy on a daily basis?
Rebekah Louisa Smith 1:14
I think that's predominant, because they haven't tuned in to their sole purpose and their why. And they end up living alive, which is not what they want, then that has a knock on domino effect, they become depressed, they, they don't feel creative, they don't feel inspired. They're doing a routine, and they're not want, they're not doing what they want. They're not thriving, and that can really hold you back big time. So that's one thing from my point of view, I know what that feels like. That's why I draw upon that experience. And feel that that really resonates to answer that question.
Alex Ferrari 1:48
Yeah, I mean, I've got I mean, how many people out there listening right now or at a job, or on a commute to a job that they hate, and they're doing it just purely for money. And I mean, I don't know about you. But when I started down my life's journey after, after I got out of college, I would just take any job because I felt that it was just about money and about making it was survival mode. And when you're in survival mode, you can't really prosper like you can't, you can grow you're in, you're in that place of like, Oh my god, the worlds that you're in Chicken Little mode, I call it Chicken Little mode, like the world's coming to an end, I got to keep stacking and pack and stacking my nuts away. And you're in this kind of survival mode, you can't really focus on your dream, you can't focus on that mission that you're that you're talking about. I'm assuming you've had similar experiences.
Rebekah Louisa Smith 2:37
Yeah, I mean, one thing I remember is, when I was at university, all my lectures said, Oh, you should do lecturing, you should do teaching all this kind of thing. And I was okay, but I didn't actually want to do it. So I remember when I was co producing a horror film festival called the hour to a horror festival in Wales. And I was like, supposed to be my hobby, and as an aside thing to write in a PhD everyday in teaching. And I actually came alive. And I just realized how many years I'd spent academia didn't want to do, even though it's interesting. And I like what I was doing. It wasn't actually my passion. And then when you really tap into what your passion is, you feel this whole new lease of life that you've been reborn, like rebirth almost so to speak, it really is something else. And I just remember the feeling of when we were preparing the film festival and producing and I was looking up to the guests, it was such an amazing feeling. And I didn't never got that from academia, which took a while to get out of academia, because so not too long, a couple of months and stuff to really acknowledge it. But when I was at a conference, someone said, is epidemia the best thing in the world. And as I know, not for me, we just realized I'm not in this right space or environment. I'm not really being me when I'm back in academic world, and I'm just a bit on board. But I'm pretty much so I'm just not in the same in the same energy as then, which is not really good at help me any further. But what I am when I'm in the film industry, and that was what we're learning, like, I've got to do a massive change, otherwise, I'm not going to thrive, I'm not going to really enjoy my life.
Alex Ferrari 4:07
Yeah, and when I was in the film industry, specifically where we're both from, you know, they're short bursts of happiness. You know, me being a director, you know, you're only happy on set, because the getting getting the production going is kind of like a really painful, post productions fun. And that can be fun as well. But the production like being on set is truly when you're, at least for a director, you're happy. You're like, Oh my god, I'm playing and, and then post production is super fun. But then after that, you're just like, Oh, God, here we go again. And it's like, and it's yours between happiness. It's really it truly is. And I think it's like that for a lot of people in our in our field specifically, but I really, truly found happiness. Once I launched my first podcast, and started being of service to other people. And then that's when I was like, Oh, I wake up every morning wanting to go to work like Oh, I love Monday. Oh, that's the that's the difference. It took me 4040 years.
Rebekah Louisa Smith 5:06
Yeah, that is a different seminar with academia wake up and be like, you know, right okay, got to get this crack on with this and then get this sorted and and read this lecture. And what it does, I mean, it became to the point where it was a bit of a chore, and it wasn't like fun. And then as soon as I began my company working in the film industry, I was like getting up each morning excited, look at the emails coming in, like, you know, which festivals we've got into with our clients films, what awards we've won, no surprises, and it really just made me feel whole, it's incredible. And doesn't feel like work. I mean, obviously, like you, you must work as well, like, you know, long hour days, you know, 1620 hour days. And the same, I just feel like work at all, it feels just like, I'm just, I'm just doing stuff. So what I mean, is, it doesn't feel at all like work, it's amazing.
Alex Ferrari 5:53
And I think the most dangerous place you can be when it comes to work is when you just like it, you're not at a place where you absolutely hate it. Because if you go to a job you hate, it's easy, it's a lot easier to make a change, because you're just at a place where you're at the bottom, you're like, I can't, I can't take this anymore. But when you have a job that you kind of, oh, that's not bad. You know, I don't love it. But it's okay. I did that for 20 years, which was post production. For me, I was editing and there would be moments of like, Oh my God, this projects, great other moments, like, I can't believe I'm on this project. And it would be this kind of like, up and down. But it would be like, It's alright, it's okay, I can, I can do this, I can do this. And you, but I didn't hate it. And I was my own boss on top of it. So you know, that's even more dangerous, because you feel like you're in control, but you truly weren't in control at all. So I think you have to find that place, you have to get really discontent with a tremendous amount of discontent in your life to make that change to finally go You know what, it's time to write that book, it's time to start that podcast, it's time to, to go out and open up that company. Would you agree?
Rebekah Louisa Smith 7:03
Oh, absolutely. I mean, I mean, remember that I always had that same feeling of academia. So I was very much like, well, I like it cuz my PhD was quite interesting as a PhD on Tarantino, and it analyzes the emotional responses his fans have to his films, and there was interesting stuff in there and wasn't bad. But it was just the, you know, I was in the high and the low. And I'd be like, this is quite interesting. I'm gonna write this and I'm having not the rest of the vision. My heart is not officially in it, but I'm doing it because I'm committed to doing it. And you know, it's so it's like, pretty much It's alright. It's, you know, it's alright. It wasn't like, so cool. It's like waking up there. And oh, my goodness, I can't wait to get this out. There was a paper, it was just mad. So that that feeling wasn't there, like it is for me now with what I do in my company. Not at all. I mean, academia is very valuable, by all means, and no one should ever disregard it. Because it's incredibly important. It's just not me where I'm supposed to be. Everyone knew that that was well, it was funny, because people saw it. Like when I was having the groups like with the PhD students supporting us and what we're doing with our research, they were all like, oh, I've got this vicious and it's so exciting. And this, and I was just like, and they just knew that I wouldn't be there long term. So they know now on the see my Instagram and I yeah, we know it's something of academia.
Alex Ferrari 8:24
You can feel it, you could feel it off of people, when they're not happy in a place you they can't, it's hard to hide. Because it just it just kinds of just vibrates off of them that just not happy. And then the opposite is like when they are super happy. You can tell you know, you could so so tell that you're happy and enjoying and you're on mission. Which brings me to my next question. How do you discover your soul's mission? Took me 40 years. And I had glimpses of it here and there. And I and then I rejected it. And then I'm like, No, no, that's not me. I gotta go down this other road and and that was ego pushing me towards that. So that's a whole egos a whole other conversation and how that kind of moves you along. But how do you discover your soul's mission?
Rebekah Louisa Smith 9:09
So the way to do it is not the easiest thing in the world to do. I'll be honest, isn't that you just sit down and go right? What's my sole purpose is not really like that. So the way to really do it is to just take a couple of days or a week or a month if you need it. But just think about what it is a hobby activity. Something else like that, that you are most drawn to the so what do you wake up drawn to? And what kind of kind of hobby or event could you do for like 24 seven and just pass through lunch and dinner and breakfast and just get really immersed in it. You're just shackled time and space. You just really love it and you feel like you come alive through it. And it might be something that people might say to you like, Oh, it's a hobby making candles as a hobby. But that's not true because a friend of mine did the same thing. When I tested him. I said right. You're in this job that you know that you hate that you just grow Juliette job, it was just like, I can't stand this. You hate it. So that so what is it that you really want to do? And he went well, I do like making candles. That's like a hobby job as that will people want candles everywhere, like in restaurants and spas and homes, offices. So that's not going to be just a hobby job. So then he eventually got the courage to leave his job. And this like hobby became a full time business. And now he ships candles all over the world with a big Instagram shop. So that was not when he does it. He loves making it the process. He just spends all weekend for eight hours without lunch or dinner just doing it. And the same with what I do. So with me, when I was asked to co produce the film festival avatar, avatar festival, I was like, yeah, that's a nice distraction for the PhD, you know, the job, the chore, the work. And then I realized that this distraction was actually myself purpose. And the minute we started playing the festival, I was really getting into it. I loved the organization. I love watching the films, I love dealing with the filmmakers, and looking after them. I just really loved you know, the whole film festival scene. This is all new to me. I didn't know about this until I went to abbatoirs. I was I'm really enjoyed, as I said, I think I might lose my PhD. But do I know that I'm supposed to be doing that? I'm sorry? I'm not. So it does like sometimes you get those little you said the snippets, the signs, the signs, were there for a bit. And then I was like, nope. And then there was a gap in the market identified and asked will make us what their likes, dislikes about festivals. And there was a big pattern. There was no foreign federal strategist at the time that they could turn to and I was going to make that me I'm going to make it me. I'm going to leave academia, finish the PhD get that all that was all done. Got doctorate. And then I didn't go into the world academia, I went to London start my company, and it was the best thing I do. People said, No, you can't do that. Because you're not going to, you know, like a real job. I was like, well, the office job, I don't need, you know, I can do that part time and just keep the bills paid. But otherwise, I can really work on this. And I worked hard to make it
Alex Ferrari 12:00
work. And now it's 24 seven. So can you imagine you telling people about your company? Can you imagine when I tell people yeah, I'm gonna launch a podcast. And I'm gonna, I'm gonna just you know, have a blog, and, and then maybe a YouTube channel. And, and that's what that's what I would tell people and people like, you're absolutely crazy. And I was I was I didn't go in all in it took me a couple years before I went all in. But it was like the side hustle, which then turned into the full hustle. And to the, to the point where you just realize, like, you look at the balance sheet, and you're like, wait a minute, how much did I make these last few months, I don't think I have to work anymore in the other in post production if I don't want to, I think I could just dedicate this myself full time to doesn't really feed this beast. And it's exactly what I did with my companies. And then it just branched off and it took off all over the place. But there was there's so many different false starts or glimpses of it during my life that I just didn't wasn't wise enough to see or was scared. Or my ego wouldn't allow me to. Yeah, because I originally, you know, my whole companies are based on being of service. And originally my my first company in the film hustle is about helping filmmakers. I did that in 2005, with a very highly successful DVD of a short film that made over six figures for an $8,000 short film, selling DVDs, because I was teaching filmmakers how to make a movie with like, you know, off the shelf kind of stuff. And at that moment, I have the distinction until someone proves me different of having the first filmmaking tutorial on YouTube ever. Like, ever, that's how early I was involved in it. That's where the game well ahead of the game. And if I would have just stayed on that path. Oh my god, it would have just, I mean, I would have exploded, you know, even more so than whatever fame, whatever success I have now. But I said no, no. Real director, I don't teach. And I went off and went into a very painful, painful life for the next 10 years. until until I came back around to it. And and then it's like, oh, here I am again. Okay, this makes sense. So it's, it's, it's, you know, the souls journey is is unique to every one of us. We all have our path to walk some of it coming out of the womb, and you're just like, Oh, I'm supposed to play the piano at three. Okay, you're done. And many of us take 40 years, some take 60 years or plus to find their souls mission, where they're like, Oh, I can finally retire now and maybe I'll go learn how to play the guitar and or go open that business I've always wanted to it's, it's a remarkable, it's remarkable, but it's different for everybody.
Rebekah Louisa Smith 14:51
Oh, absolutely. I mean, one thing I mentioned in my book, actually is that nobody has the same you know, souls mission or sole purpose. So for example, one Something like it is about hairdressers. So you might see two fabulous hairdressers for the sole purpose and the sole driver is not the same, you know, so both do amazing haircuts. But the difference in the technique and their styles is everything is bespoke, a different blueprint for each person. And that was like you and I, I mean, it worked in the film industry as a day job, which we love and what we do, but we've a different journey to how we got there, and what we do you know, so it's different in that respect. And it's something that will always be with people in terms of how they find it. Nothing is like linear. But you say those snippets, like I've one thing I do think now, you mentioned that very good point about the snippets is I've always had a love for film. But then I realized that my love of film was actually the love for the business of film. So I've always been a fan of films when I was younger, and I still like now. But not maybe you say as much as what I love now is seeing films, going to festivals, circus, different, different type of movie making them came to Hollywood films, obviously. So who had a thread to film and always been a fan of Tarantino always follow him now still, he was still my favorite director that's not changed. And not working in his latest film, but that's different conversation with visions is still there. But now I'm very much changed in terms of when I watched films, I watched a lot of festival films, not really Hollywood films anymore, because that's the my market is my clientele.
Alex Ferrari 16:17
Yeah, without question. Now, I would love for you to discuss the myth behind money and spirituality. And how they, you know, it is very public, very commonly thought of is like, you can't be well off and spiritually you can't be of service to people and be wealthy, financially, at all. How can you kind of debunk that a little bit?
Rebekah Louisa Smith 16:43
Yeah, we that's definitely a limiting belief. Because a lot of people in the spiritual world who, you know, are practitioners in any kind of, you know, psychic readings, or Angel therapy, or color therapy, whatever it is, you can make money when you charge your worth. And one thing I did with my company is, I wasn't really in the beginning, able to charge what I thought I could charge because I had no track record. So it's a case of really sticking to your guns and your beliefs of how much you can charge. And the people who charge you know, 300 $400 or more for readings and for consultancies in that spiritual realm. And they are really important. And the reason why I believe that is because I spent a lot of money on my first ever consultancy with a spiritual one with Marie diamond. And she's a contributor in the book, The Secret, which I'm sure everyone knows the secret. Everyone knows what the secret is. And I met her at a party one of my good friends, could you speak to her at a film event in London, the raindance film festival? Yeah. And he said, Oh, she's a furnished way Master, I was like, what, and he said all things ways, you know, energy in your home and like, can be really abundant. I was like, but then when I really just knew what she was saying about what she was gonna help me with was really spot on. And I was waiting on funds x, I was like, you know, having to make ends meet. And it was wasn't a great place I was in many years ago, when the first of my company, I was just into London. And you know, it was, I was all just, you know, doing temporary jobs that weren't paying that much into the business running that and it was lower fees. And she said to me, You know, I can have a one to one with you. And I think I'll really help you. And it was $500. I was like, I had no money for that. But I thought I have got it, you know, I've wanted to savings. So I'm gonna just gamble it. And I think I might get a lot from this. And it did. And I got that 500 pounds that $5 back so quickly, within like a week when I changed and put the work in and did what she said, which was changing everything in my company with the energy, the colors, my home, the whole lot. And everything she mentioned now to change my vibration, all in like an hour and a half session was incredible. And that was worth every penny. She even charges more obviously much more of other kinds of clients and for the things she does. But I mean, that was to me a lot money at the time. And I was like, Well, I'm going to gamble. This I just feel is going to be good at one point said no, that I said, You know what? Actually, I've changed my mind. And can I make before you even she said, I know you would. So yeah, we'll meet tomorrow in Soho. So we met one of the best meetings I've ever had. And it just changed my perception.
Alex Ferrari 19:07
It's funny. I have a connection with Maria as well, because I saw her speak at an event that I was at, and she told the story of how she was invited over. She really wanted to work with someone who had Oscars. She wanted to work with someone who had Oscars. She wanted to you know, she wanted to like take that next next step. And when she started to do stuff with her Fung Shui in her place, and she put like these little fake Oscars and stuff in the area that she needed to. Within a couple of weeks she gets a call from Cape Capshaw. Wow. And for everyone listening who doesn't know Kate Capshaw is is the wife of Steven Spielberg. And within a week, she was at Steven Spielberg's house, doing funks way it's the house with the Oscars sitting right there. And all that stuff. It's pretty it's pretty, it's pretty remarkable. Great story. It's a really, really great story. But I think you're right. I think so many people look down on, on, I guess that whole concept of money and spirituality and there's nowhere really that it says that you can't do both. It's not about having wealth. It's about what you do with it. There's, there's a lot of there's a lot of wealthy people. I know, Jeff Bezos, a ex wife, who happens to have $25 billion after the divorce, she's a philanthropist. And she's giving away so much money and helping so many people. And I know JK Rowling was the first billionaire ever to actively get off the billionaire list. Because she wanted to give away so much. It's like, I'm good. I don't need, you know, $5 billion. I'm like, I can give it away and help other people. So it's not about that. I think the more you have, the more you can use. Now, if you hoard it, and just, you know, go down the ego world, and of course, but if you're good with it, and you can be of service to people, I mean, the more you have the better.
Rebekah Louisa Smith 21:08
Exactly, no, I totally agree. And it's all about giving back, you know, things go around in circles, she told me as well, things circle back round. So one thing you might think you lost something that it comes back around again, and opportunity different way. And it is important to really like do the give back. And you know, do some freebies where you can and give that information away. When I meet with a client, we will watch the film for free. And we don't charge to watch that. And then we you know, if they want to have a consultancy, where we put together a festival plan, the strategy, obviously, that costs but then before that, you know, have a chat, I will just give you the best pointers and show that we're going to, they can trust us with the film, you know, and that I don't want to have to charge for that, you know, doesn't need to be charged for that. And also given these free tip videos, I give them my Instagram, just to help people get really focused and they want to talk more than ever, I am also happy to help with my team. So
Alex Ferrari 21:54
I give away 95% of what I do on a daily basis. Like all the work I give I give most of it away and I charge for a small portion of it. And it seems to be working. It seems it seems to be working. Now how can you what are some techniques that you can employ to inject spirituality and integrate it into your business?
Rebekah Louisa Smith 22:16
So several things I mentioned, you know that but also what I do on a daily basis is manifestation cosmic ordering an energetic branding. So so I think I'll go first of all, in terms of energetic branding, because that's quite fun. That brings back Marie diamond. So when I mentioned previously that Marie and I met in a film, networking event, rain dance with my good friend Phil, he was with him in London, she lives in France, and then she was there in London. And he said, Oh, we should not be suit with her because he knows spirituality. She got put into that. I was like, Okay, I dabbled in it before but I really didn't actually, I didn't know what sanctuary was. And then when she saw me, I was in black, like a black outfit. All black and white jumper at night and optically, very likeable. And then she took off it all got my company to start my company. It's called the film festival doctor. I'm really excited and you know, and here's my card. And then she was like whoa, she said no, the energy here is really low vibration. I was watching me and she said well for one thing your whole logo is in black need to add more color to it to really attract the right type of clientele add in some red some gold some stars right now no one can see it. But worst of all the picture that's going on your logo, her back is to the name of your company so she's facing away from it like this. And you should be turning away of default forwards to it should all this all really change things up if you just change the energy because right now you've got the back to your clients. And also right now it's all black, no one can see you and you're in black yourself city to access what's called the quantum colors of the universe. You mentioned. I was okay. I was a first I was like what but then I actually took it on board quite quickly and within like two minutes, I was like, I need to talk with her. So we had our consultancy I mentioned that I was not in a good place I was a bit down about my company and not getting the results I wanted and know where to start. And she told me how to how to start manifesting but also how to really use the colors and energy the universe to change my brand into energetic. So what I did the next day after I met her I said to my designer, can you please change this route? He was like, okay, and it just whole thing transformed from dull as dishwater down here to talk with the power and really stood out really bold, really loud. And it did attract more clients. I put up an Instagram but it was socials I was like, Wow, this is amazing, amazing. And people then began to trust the brand more and it did just that subtle shift. And then she said you're also wearing too much black like you need to access like gold for wealth and abundance, silver, magnificence, read for confidence, purple, for clarity, blue, for supporting yourself in these colors. She talks about the quantum colors, and I was okay she gave me this book about it. And if you don't need to wear more differently or more fuchsia, more pink, more more gold. I did, I thought I'm gonna change my wardrobe now because I trust her because she was wearing like this massive gold necklace, ivory, pink, and she likes shun like a diamond. And everyone was just going towards her for like meeting with him wanting to know about it, I was I copied his work. So I changed our wardrobe and I went to premieres of red carpets at festivals, I'd be standing out in the crowd with my clothes, everyone would then talk to me more. And I feel actually myself more radiant and more confident. The changing energetic branding and your personal brand new company. It's a big mixture and it works so well. So now everything where I know them and I've got something a little bit it's like not quite black, but you know until I see got ivory on her compassion has blonde. So all this kind of thing I changed completely and almost like what you really stand out now, you No one can see you don't want to see you but you're so fit, you're so you're radiant, you're shining, as I because I'm happy and what myself now my company and my clothing feels really, really good and been hiding away and black, tucked away. And that really, really opened my eyes because I didn't think that could work or what how colors could actually, you know, access these abundant colors. I wasn't really sure about that. Nothing about it. But when she taught me it really was worth that funds. And from the from the nonwords everything has changed in my whole wardrobe and demeanor. And everything I do with my branding is colorful with the right colors, as she advised. And it really works really helps you beat up burnout.
Alex Ferrari 26:29
Yeah, she was telling me she was telling me, I heard her speak that she was saying that once there was a very successful man who was could never find love. He never could find love and never could find love. And when he went she went to his house. All he had was pictures with women's backs to him, like teasing him or something like that. She's like, well, look what you have around, you change all of those images, and make them more inviting. And she did. And then of course, like three weeks later, he found love and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I'm always I'm always a skeptic first until I see proof. If I see something that actually works, or if it works for me, for works for other people that I can see, great, but to each their own. If you don't believe in this, that's fine. If it does, if it helps if it's of service to you on your journey, great. If it isn't, you discard there's a lot of stuff that I've heard of like I worked for other people, he I just can't do it. It just doesn't doesn't work for me. And meditation was like that for me for a long, long, long, long time. took me forever to be able to sit down for two, three hours and meditate. And I tried to do in my practice at least one to one and a half to two hours a day. And have been doing that for years now. And it's completely changed my life. But at the beginning, I'd like add this meditation thing doesn't work for me. So it might not you might not be ready for that when it comes to you. And you might have to go down the path a little bit longer before you're ready for for it. So as they say the teacher makes him his or her available when the student is ready. And same thing goes for these other things.
Rebekah Louisa Smith 28:06
Absolutely no completely. Either one was cosmic ordering. Yes, quite interesting. Fun. So this is something I've never heard of at all. But it was mentioned to me back in 2013, when I was seeing the 2012 Actually, I was seeing a therapist who was an angelic spiritual therapist, because I had had a really bad breakup with a boyfriend. And it was really traumatic. I was trying to get out of it and just work myself. It was quite a tough time. But he was really good. And he mentioned to me that his partner wrote a cosmic order where she went on a list of all what she wanted a partner to be. And pretty much it was him. And then he found him and he was everything on this list. And they're both very spiritual, but everything she wanted in detail was him. I was out that's interesting. I didn't really pay much attention to it. And then I remember him saying this to meet many years later. And then remember, I googled cosmic ordering online on Google. And a book came up by Alan Watts and it's called cosmic ordering made easier. And I was like, okay, sir, just give this a go. So I read it and I was like, this is really interesting because what she's saying here it's a bit different to manifesting so it's asking for what you want. So you know when you manifest you know can visualize very clearly and vision board in your mind what you want to attract and happiness success or that kind of thing. You can say my other stations that are very specific about that too. But in her technique, it was a bit different. It's been around for years and and created you know, it's been around for years. And then she said what you said if you want when you want to get something, it's like going to a restaurant. So you say you know what I really like to order is lemonade and chips with cheese. Thank you. That's clear. That's what you want. And then she said to cosmic ordering how you do it is what you say is what I really want is a car parking space upon my arrival to London, Soho square. And the end you say for the good of all. concerned so that nobody loses out for you to gain. So it's all fair. And it's all spiritually orbit. So I was like, okay, you should try the park in order for the car park in order. So I thought I'm going to drive to London today. I mean, London's as you probably know, is a nightmare to drive around. And so it's like, there's no car with the hands with the governor tube, or train or bus or whatever. So that was that, well, there are parking spaces. So it's not impossible, but I want to get one. So I'm going to drive in, I'm going to ask for one. So please, all right, when I got in the car, then just drove a nerd and a car got to the car pocket arrow. So right, okay, this looks busy. And then I was driving up, and then a car just pulls out. But this car parking space now is that, oh, it's Mike's no one else needs this drive in. And then I thought I wanted a parking space at the dashboard. And I saw it work from then onwards constantly. And it was really interesting. So I didn't fit everything. And now I put it into my whole business. So what I tend to do is, each morning or before, is with my goals. When I achieve something super simple, I want to get one of my children to a festival, the next day, I want to get a result for a client, I want to get a new business lead, then instead of saying, oh, that'd be nice to have that I asked for it my basic cosmic order. And it was come through when I wake up, or in the phone, or in the inbox. So it does work. It's against, like what works for you. But this is something that I thought would be fun to try. And also what really stretches you is that sometimes the order comes different way that you expect to be delivered. So you know, I was I said to myself the other day, if I'm going to ask a random order for something romantic will happen today. I don't want something romantic to happen today. Just whatever you want, and then just put it out there and posted across McWhorter. And then this there's people in Mexico where I live at the moment who come on house and sell berries and food. And there's there's no use at all the man with the berries here. Do you want to have a chat with him? Yes, I do. So I've got purse down. And then he said oh for you. And he gave us all my landlady a necklace, which had a heart on it saying Love, love, love. Sweet, and he was like for you for you. And he gave us these like, you know, really cheap fruits like 100 100 pesos. It's like, you know, like $1 for this through. And it was incredible. And it's again, kindness level. So the Romans, so just seven likes to be very sweet with the hearts, you know, it's showing you're always loved. So I didn't expect it to happen, but didn't know what to expect without a thought just see what happens but don't have expectations or expect it to happen in the minute or attached to a certain outcome. It teaches you how to let go when you ask for it and just trust that it comes in a different way you might expect.
Alex Ferrari 32:30
That's the thing that the key to this is, is the trust and the faith. And that's where people kind of don't get it. And I didn't get it for a long time where I was like, I want this. And I didn't believe if I didn't believe or I didn't have faith, I didn't trust that like you know, just put it out there and just let it kind of like a message in a bottle, you put it in the ocean and just let it go. And, and that's the way you have to look at it and you can't hold on to and you can't think about it like that. Because I actually created a list of my top guests, I wanted these ridiculous filmmakers that I would have never in a million years been able to get ahold of ever. And then I put it up and I I did I put it out into the universe through an episode of mine. I'm like, hey, if anybody out there knows anybody about get connected to these guys, please do so. No one actually ever did Connect me there, but I printed it out and put it up on my wall. And it took a little bit. But all of a sudden, these guys started showing up. And I was just like oh my god, like and some of them started to reach out to me. And I was like holy crap, this is amazing. So it you know again, if this helps you on your journey, all the better if it doesn't discard it and find something that connects with you on a spiritual level. That's the way I look at everything.
Rebekah Louisa Smith 33:55
I think that's a really good way of looking at things but absolutely all means I mean there are some things that I don't connect with very well I mean one of my friends literally every night will talk to the moon and look at the moon which works for her but for me I don't quite I know bits of it and I appreciate and it does work but for me like that's not how how I work and the same thing with for example with shaman like bowls and healing I do that every day. But you know some things do connect some things don't you know but generally it all goes back to law of attraction and that backbone of you know like, what you what you manifest what you think you thoughts become reality. And that's all about asking but I really engaged while the cosmic ordering just because it's I'm gonna do in that like, Oh, you know, I'm always given our orders when I come to, you know, with my team and stuff to do so. So it's like well, it's quite easy to handle. So I quite like that technique. It's a very flawless technique that could really get hold off. But I like how specific you get can be so you can really get what you want. I also like doing vision boards too. I have several images for different types of things and projects. But that really helps me think our success and like, you know, it's within reach and happiness and abundance.
Alex Ferrari 35:08
The thing I think a lot of people don't understand about visualization or thoughts becoming things is that everything in existence that has been created by mankind started off as a thought, exactly, every single thing, from the microphone, I'm talking to you and to the technology that we're working on, it all started with a thought whether they believe it, it whether that was they had a vision board about Skype or not, it's regardless of that, the thoughts do become reality in so many ways. And, and I, you know, I, I've been in times of my life where I've been extremely negative with myself. And the things that coming out of me are negative and like, life is tough, this is horrible, I'll never get out of it. These really damaging to terms. And no one's perfect, it still comes out every once in a while. But if you catch yourself and change your mentality, change your focus on what's going on, it does change things, because someone who's like my life is tough, my life is tough, generally doesn't win the lottery generally doesn't have big things happen to them, or even just positive things happen to them doesn't have to be big, big could be you know, getting a job or getting a boyfriend or girlfriend or getting that rental that they've been wanting to get in this neighborhood that they wanted to get into, or whatever it is, if you continue to use those negative words in your mind even doesn't have to be verbal in your mind, it does affect you. So thoughts are extremely powerful. extracts. I've been firsthand. I've seen it in my life. So so many times that thoughts are extremely powerful love to hear what you think,
Rebekah Louisa Smith 36:47
Oh, no, they really are. I mean, the more that you say positive manifestations that are really detailed, but they're your thoughts will become. So one of the things that I used to do was I will get into manifesting, but it wouldn't, wouldn't be very good manifesting. And so when I met nanhai, Gianni, who is really fantastic, intuitive consultant, and he's based in Long Beach, California. He said, you're ready Pacific, they're pretty much, you know, a little bit vague. So you're not really getting Yes, we're getting vague answers or vague kind of, you know, it's hard for you to change your thinking. It was I was saying things like, you know, I am powerful and have a great business, it was a bit was very detailed, a little bit vague and wishy washy. So he said what you need to be is a lot more specific, you know, so say, you know, like, more things that are more detail. So with that when the pandemic occurred, or that, that long pause to call it. One of the things I did was I wanted to make sure the business was, you know, robust. And then he said, what, let's make a proclamation, which is really detailed, and says that your business will thrive and grow during this covid 19 pandemic got all the clients you want to work with. So to put that in a manifestation, just put that in our firm, it is my intent, etc. So I did that. And then when I said it, I really said it, like I believed it, and I can actually picture it, and to the point where anything that there was all this press going on, like all business are going to close down and it's gonna you know, God to worship, or they're not going to read them because I'm there and just read that and not engaged with it and just put on what looks back and says information and make sure that my company does continue as normal, but even even better, and thrives even more. That's what I did. And then every morning I would say it in before I go to bed, just to really put in my mind, the more times you say it, the more your thoughts change and become more positive. So all those all that negative news like Oh, COVID over here for years, and we're gonna wear masks and as I mean nothing to hope or visit other clothes, no festivals, all that kind of bullshit. I was like, that's just, that's just noise and I'm going to engage in that I'm going to really listen to what my heart wants. So when I did the affirmation, I picture like you know, still being in a festival but virtually i'd you know, even just have new clients and in deals I picture you know, like, a really strong diverse business and a strongest woman and it would all come together and you know, since then it's been doing great. Like it would wreck it would normally would, and nothing is dented that with the pandemic ibuka mango Well, I'm surprised because you know, this is like yours, white nation, a pandemic. I was like, yeah, you know, not even the negativity of why you did not make any difference to me. It made me feel a lot more grounded and focused myself and a really strong business model.
Alex Ferrari 39:30
That's really good. Now you talk also a lot about niches, I say niches and I found out recently, I found out recently according to the Webster's dictionary, it is pronounced niche or niche depending so both are correct. The reasons I like niche is because the riches are in the niches to saying I love say and it's true. Can you discuss a little bit about niches in how you focus how you define them, and how you how they, how you use them in your work.
Rebekah Louisa Smith 40:04
Yeah, so the one that I define them is, when I first met one of my business consultants, he said to me, it's really important that you know what your niche is, so that you can really hone in on it, and get the best business and have a client out. So he said to me, okay, so you work in a niche, because the film industry is a niche. But he said, we've got to really do is think about which aspect of that you're really good at. And we've become laser focused on it. So obviously, you know, other Cannes Film Industry, that's the niche, I work in their distribution is a laser that down while we're in the era of film, hustle distribution, and we get into festivals for our clients. He was out with that shield micro laser niche. And we and you can read Excel on that. But is there a market for it? Yes, of course, thriving one. So that means you've got the clientele, you can go with the business. So it's really important that you're never vague or trying to do too many things at once. So for example, friend of mine said, Oh, I'm really good at social media. I was okay, well, that's a really big niche. But Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Pinterest, LinkedIn. So which one are you most best at? But also, what can you do for the client? So is it a case of that you your expertise is helping people create social create videos to put on LinkedIn, so the business? is it helping people go through Facebook advertising, there's so many things there that you just say social media, that's way too broad, and is just not going to work? Long term is too much to do, you got to be really specific on exactly what it is that you should be doing. And he was spot on. And then I realized that my micro niche was film festivals and festival strategies and management. And that was really what I was best at nothing else. I mean, I do other things in the company, but I delegated those that are great in their niche. There was one point where I had an awful, awful time where I wanted to be a sales agent. And I wanted to help my clients fix the problem, which is like a whole new world, as you know. So one thing I said to myself was the problem that came up with my clients, they want to get into festivals were doing that. But they also want to get the film, so to make money and make the money back for investors, as you know. And one of the things I wanted to do was help them with that. So remember that saying to myself, I can do this, I've got no contacts in sales, but I can find them. I just didn't realize how hard that area was. And I remember selling one or two films. But though, that was nothing really. And it's a whole new different ballgame. You need to know all these people, you got to know how to negotiate relationships, the whole life is completely different. And it was just something that I wasn't really didn't have any idea what to do in it, I had just learned the hard way. But then seven years, four years later, I met a good friend of mine who can then fill that gap. And he helps me find he helps his clients find the right sales agent that will usually come up with my business with only that problem solved. And listen to you, not me. So we'll use we all have our niches in my team. And we all delegate to who can do it best to get the best type of success.
Alex Ferrari 43:07
That's That's awesome, awesome definition of what a niche is. I mean, it's properly said niche, let's just agree. It sounds better niche, but the riches are in the niches. It doesn't it doesn't ring it doesn't it doesn't flow. But one thing I also wanted to ask and talk to you about is gratitude and the power of gratitude and being thankful for, for what you have and truly at a very deep spiritual level to be grateful for, for what you have, and what comes is coming towards you in the blessings that happen to you on a daily basis. And even some of the negative stuff which you know, I'm by no stretch, I still have negative things happen to me on a daily basis. But to be thankful for even those things because they're teaching tools to hopefully get you to the next place. Can you talk a little bit about gratitude?
Rebekah Louisa Smith 43:59
Yeah, so until I never used to be a believer or not a very spiritual grateful person when I was younger, when I was around 2022 23 I had like really bad anxiety like severe panic attacks, and it will it will get weird has happened but I was I was watching kill pill, Volume One, we sneaked out college, Nova university, I skipped my first ba with a friend, two friends of mine. And I was like all it's going to Kill Bill. And in the theater, somebody had a really severe epileptic fit. And it was, you know, I just stopped the film had to go out it was quite, quite severe. But as soon that triggered off these horrendous panic attacks, and I don't know why that was, but I think it was something that was always there. It just like brought them up to the surface and then I couldn't travel in a car for less than 20 minutes. I like to get out and get fresh air. It gets Luna that kind of stuff. It would be just quite difficult to be around and quite weird time to be in and my hair was falling out in clumps. You know, it was everything stopped my body it was, it was really horrible time. And just I was never using spiritual things to help me with that I was just like, you know, going to these therapists that weren't spiritual and using these very like, how would I say, not formulaic, but you know, kind of just like cut and paste advice wasn't what I really wanted. And eventually I came out of it. And I did get through that horrible period by having better help, and I shouldn't have or spiritual. And I realized how important it is to be grateful for like being alive still. But also, every day amazing things happen, even if you might be in a bit of a tough space. When a new therapist, she taught me about how to be grateful and how to become that your body, your soul. And how each day does is think about three things you're grateful for. And you realize, then you become a more kinder, more generous person. And it works. First, No, I was just so so stressful to stress. But then many meditation, learning gratitude, and being thankful for everything and saying thank you more, you become a much different person. And I in the business to do business, I do personal life, everything. The more grateful you are, the more things manifest easily, you become a much more different type of person.
Alex Ferrari 46:16
That's amazing. Now, I'm gonna ask you a couple questions. There, prepare yourself closer, a little deeper. There bigger questions. Why do you think we are here as as spiritual beings?
Rebekah Louisa Smith 46:31
I think we all have a gift. And we're born with this gift. And once we tap into it, we can share that gift with the whole world and help each other in a journey of kindness.
Alex Ferrari 46:43
Good answer. Now, what is your soul's mission?
Rebekah Louisa Smith 46:48
My soul's mission is I think I'm a kind of, I think I'm a healer, but in different kind of way to what we would do expect. So what I do is, I think I my job here is to heal filmmakers and get their films into festivals and create for them those stepping stones of opportunities to get more film work more success, accolades and recognition and to help them on their journey. That's what I'm here for.
Alex Ferrari 47:13
And where can people find out more about you and your book.
Rebekah Louisa Smith 47:17
And they can find out more about me and my website, which is Rebecca, Louisa Smith, calm. And also Instagram, which is at Rebecca film, Dr. And the book you can buy from amazon.com zelko. UK, and the best way to get it and it's born to do it.
Alex Ferrari 47:33
Thank you so much for coming on the show. It has been an absolute pleasure talking to you, Rebecca, and much success, continued success in your journey.
Rebekah Louisa Smith 47:40
Thank you so much. It's been an absolute dream. I really appreciate it.
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