Alex Ferrari 0:00
Now, guys, this is by far one of the more profound conversations I've had on the show. Now I've know I've had said that in the past, but this is just another one of those that you really need to listen to. It blew me away. His name is Niko the medium. Now, don't let the name fool you. He is a medium. This conversation was one of the more profound conversations I've had on the show. It really moved me, shook me, it challenged me and my ideas a little bit. I reframed them, if you will, and it's something I think you guys should really pay attention to. So I hope you enjoy it. I hope it moves you, and I hope this episode lands in your life when you need to hear this, enjoy. You were raised Greek Orthodox. What's the main difference of it?

Niko Kapoutsos 0:46
It's the first religion. If I say something to you and you pass it on to 15 people, the 15th person will not have what I just told you. To me wasn't the experiences itself. It was the understanding how it was happening when, even when the city comes to an evidential medium. It's the same thing. It wasn't bad. They just find it. It was meant to happen. Everything is meant to happen.

Alex Ferrari 1:06
Is, has anything come through about where we are right now and where we're going?

Niko Kapoutsos 1:12
But what is happening is, when...

Alex Ferrari 1:23
I like to welcome to the show. Niko Kapoutsos, how you doing Niko?

Niko Kapoutsos 1:26
Hey, Alex, thanks for having me. I'm doing well. Thank you.

Alex Ferrari 1:29
Thank you so much. I noticed a slight accent from my old country, which is New York. My old, the old the old country, which is New York. Well, my old country, because I was a kid when I was there. But yeah, listen, my friend, I'm so happy to have you on the show. I You were brought to my attention. And when I went to see your work, I was very impressed with how you're doing, what you're doing as a as a psychic medium and helping people around the world, but you come at it from a very grounded perspective, which is what we do at next level soul. And I think it's something that's so needed. But your story is pretty remarkable too. Because, you know, I'm assuming, when you were five, growing up in New York, you were like, You know what I want to be when I grow up. So you So, before we jump into it, you were raised Greek Orthodox, right?

Niko Kapoutsos 2:25
Right! This is taboo.

Alex Ferrari 2:27
So let me ask you, I've only the only thing I know about Greek Orthodox, and I'm gonna be frank, I've learned a lot about different versions of, you know, Christianity, and there's, I don't I have to make the list one day of how many different sects are there, of Jesus's teachings is pretty remarkable. But I don't know a tremendous amount about Greek Orthodox. All I know of it is from My Big Fat Greek Wedding. That's that's really not much more from that. So how does Greek Orthodox? Is it very much like other Orthodox, other orthodox versions of Christianity, like, what's the main difference of it?

Niko Kapoutsos 3:07
It's the first religion, the first. In other words, the liturgies are like ancient okay, you know the New Testament was written in Greek, so it follows the tradition, the original concept of Orthodoxy, of religion, of teachings. So it's very, very strict. And this, this, all this mediumship is taboo. It's devil worship. Oh, obviously, you know, obviously, oh yeah, I say that, oh yeah. I mean, you're all the devil. Yeah. My mom stopped speaking to me five years ago. She's like, No, no way. It's not gonna happen. So it's just their preference, and it's okay. I'm fine with it. It's not that's not my journey. It's ironic how that's the selection of this life to grow up in a Greek Orthodox Church. And I used to question this when I was a kid, and the priest thought that, you know, I needed, you know, intervention. I was nuts, but I just knew it. I just had the in the knowing, and then I resonated to it, and I just knew that I wasn't part of the Greek religion. But I continued, you know, I just learned, and I was always open minded, and I just found my own lane, and it's perfect.

Alex Ferrari 4:10
So when so and I'm just going to ask you a couple more history questions, because I don't, I really am fascinated by it. If the Vatican, with like the Council of Nicaea and all of that created the Bible as we know it. It was written in, was it written in Greek, or it was Greek? Was the very first ancient Greek, right? So, even so when the Romans were writing,

Niko Kapoutsos 4:32
Translated,

Alex Ferrari 4:32
Translated into was it translated into Greek? Or was it written in Greek originally?

Niko Kapoutsos 4:37
Was written in Greek. It was originally written in Greek.

Alex Ferrari 4:40
Okay, so also the original Bible, yeah,

Niko Kapoutsos 4:43
Catholicism became afterward. Orthodoxy was first. This is it. This is this is the main thing. This is the core of it. And then from that, everything branched out even that's why, when they say Greek Easter, Catholic Easter, it just goes by the calendar, the Julian calendars. We stay traditionally with the old way, the. Whole calendar. That's why you have Easter either or one week apart, four weeks apart on the same week, it all varies. It just changes. It's still the same concept, the same beliefs. But, you know, it's all it's all of control. You know that, right, all these religious that's all this is instill fear. You have to have a life. You have to, you know, be good, and this way you can ascend back to heaven. I mean, this is all Hollywood scripts. It's not actuality,

Alex Ferrari 5:27
Yeah. And there's a lot of holes in that script, by the way, lot of plot holes in that script.

Niko Kapoutsos 5:33
Well, look at, look at the and I'm not knocking people that are listening, that are religious. You know, I was religious for a while. The Bible was written so many years after. And then, if you think about

Alex Ferrari 5:44
Hundreds, hundreds,

Niko Kapoutsos 5:45
Yeah, and if you think about it, the actual Bible we read now is over 1000 years later, we've written the King James, yeah, if, exactly, if I, if I say something to you and you pass it on to 15 people, the 15th person will not have what I just told you. It'll be translated and authored as we go along. So the same thing happens there, but again, it's easier to find that familiarity, the comfort of believing through fear, because that's what we're conditioned to do. You're taught this.

Alex Ferrari 6:14
We're not only taught this, but we also on a we have a negative bias built into our system for survival, and that fear aspect of it is another it's just digs into that so beautifully. So it's a very easy way to control a large populace. Is fear Exactly, right? Exactly. So that's fascinating. All right. So now we've established where you've come from. So now the journey out from where you came from is going to be that much more. You see, I'm setting up the story backstory. You see, I'm a storyteller, so it's alright. So when, when did you first discover your abilities? When did you Well, I know it was something with your cousin, if I'm not mistaken,

Niko Kapoutsos 6:54
Yeah, first, let me correct. It's not an ability. This is a misinterpretation that a lot of people believe, and that's why they view mediums as a rarity. It's not an ability. You know, like most people, I had experience. I didn't fully understand it first, okay, but what becomes became more interesting to me wasn't the experiences itself, it was the understanding how it was happening, right? Because once you understand the mechanism, the experience becomes something that can be recognized and stabilized, rather than something mysterious. So that's what kept occurring to me. I mean, when I was a child, I had a visitation, if you want to call it, that celestial beings, and my cousin passed away, and he was like he was here again a year later, and so many different moments happened throughout 1015, years. And again, it wasn't even that, because I wasn't afraid of it. I just I was from New York. It was a different mindset, the family, friends, nobody. Every time I tried to speak about it, I was the outcast. So I just kind of internally, tried to question the mechanism, and that's what I found, and that's what I kept gravitating to.

Alex Ferrari 8:05
So what? So when you started to, when these, for lack of a better word, I say abilities, but when this thing happened to you, where you're able to start seeing and speaking to the other side, well, first of all, let's clarify, what kind of mediumship do you do? You see dead people? Do you hear them? Do you see them? Do you do you hang out, play poker with them? What is it? Yeah, because it comes in different flavors.

Niko Kapoutsos 8:30
Let's look at it. Let's break it down. Okay, there's three different levels to how experience is organized. All right, you could look at it very simply as three parts, awareness, identity and expression, right? So, awareness is what allows anything to be noticed. Identity is the part that interferes your human identity, right? It labels and it organizes what appears. Expression is what comes out of that speech, action, reaction. So right now, as we're speaking, something is already being experienced. Identity is organizing it, choosing words, making sense of it and expression is what comes out as speech. So in everyday experience, identity is very active, right? You're checking, you're adjusting, you're trying to make sure things are correct. In trance, trance mediumship, that activity reduces, So awareness is still present, but identity is no longer interfering in the same way which allows expression to continue more freely. Right? What creates confusion is that we usually think identity is who we are, but identity is something that appears within awareness. This just like a thought appears, just like a feeling appears. So it's not the source is part of the organization, and once you start to see that clearly or it feels abstract, becomes much more understandable. So it's not a matter of spirit, speaking to you or playing poker with them. It's understanding the mechanism. It's understanding where it's coming from,

Alex Ferrari 10:29
All right, so if I'm if I may, try to break it down in languages that I understand, sir, make it a little make it a little easier for me to understand. Okay, so basically, what we're talking about is we're all we're all down here in a movie or in a play, and we're playing a character that is our identity. Once we disconnect from or at least loosen that identity up, it allows this information that is always flowing, but it's kind of like a radio signal that's always flowing, but then you're able to tune into it more because you've let you've dropped, you've raised your frequency to a place where you can receive that information. Is that a fair assumption? Or can you tell me,

Niko Kapoutsos 11:12
Okay, we're going right into the mechanics. I like that. We build up to. But you're like, boom, right at it, right.

Alex Ferrari 11:20
Let's do it, baby. Let's do it.

Niko Kapoutsos 11:22
That's the New Yorker in you can take, you could now you're still, that's right. You could take the name, the boy out of the neighborhood, but not the voice. Now it goes

Alex Ferrari 11:34
Something like that. Absolutely

Niko Kapoutsos 11:38
Okay. So it, it can be helpful to look at experience in terms of where things are happening, okay? That's what I would call awareness, the human consciousness field and the auric field. And after this, we're going to break down the architecture of incarnation, so you understand that we're never separate from Okay, So awareness is what allows everything to be noticed. It's not inside the body, it's what the body appears within. This is also a misunderstanding. People say awareness is my mind and my chest and my back. That's That's incorrect. It's an incorrect assumption, right? It's what the body appears within, also within awareness. Let me ask you right now, did you create, did you generate your thought? Did it just appear?

Alex Ferrari 12:28
It generally appears

Niko Kapoutsos 12:29
Exactly because that's also what appears within awareness. So does speech? Thought and speech are simultaneous, okay, and we'll go over the mechanism in a minute, that's what appears within awareness, that the human consciousness field is where experience becomes structured, so things like perception, interpretation, sensation all organized there, right? And the auric field is the interface just outside the body where input is first received before it's translated into thought of language, right? There are different ways something can appear, but they all appear through the same mechanism, right? First you have imagination. This is where you generate it. You could change it, and it builds as you think. This ties into your identity. So even if you get that speech, if you get the words for me, if you understand what's going to say, notice throughout your life how many times you've altered it. You pause. You didn't what you wanted. We were meant to say. You altered it based on the experience. Okay, intuition is the same mechanism. It arrives complete, simple, no effort. It's like you just know this is I know this is real. You cannot explain why. And then spirit, this also appears to the same exact mechanism. There's no other mechanism. They don't tap on your shoulder. It's the same mechanism. It appears as thought, sensation, speech, emotion, all of it with spirit, though it often, it often begins very subtle. It may feel slightly unfamiliar, and it becomes clearer if you stay with it. That's what evidential mediumship is. It's not the spirit is giving you dialog. It's the same exact mechanism that you experience every day as a human trance is the same thing, normal speaking, the trans speaking as identical, same exact mechanism. It's just less interference. But here's what matters, they all appear the same way. The difference is not how they appear, it's what happens after they appear, and that's perception. That's what we think. Oh, it's different is we're detached and we're never detached. It's the perception of the identity,

Alex Ferrari 14:43
So the so the information is coming our it's always coming. It's our loved ones are always speaking to us, our angels, our guides, whatever the other side is speaking to us at all times. It's about how we can tune ourselves to perceive that. And then. Yeah, and then use the mechanics that we have been given this body to be able to relay that information out.

Niko Kapoutsos 15:07
Yeah, but you see, even even with that, we're, we're still abiding to this concept of separation. We're not separate.

Alex Ferrari 15:17
No, no.

Niko Kapoutsos 15:19
So it's not, it's not that our loved ones have left in the connecting with us is still within the same architecture.

Alex Ferrari 15:27
I see what it's kind of, it's, it's kind of like radio signals are going around us at all times. Every day. They never stop. But the second you turn on the radio and turn on the dial, then you can actually receive them, but they're around us at all times.

Niko Kapoutsos 15:42
You're always you're always receiving. The identity is the one shutting off and on the radio.

Alex Ferrari 15:48
There we go. That's

Niko Kapoutsos 15:50
You're always receiving, because you're always within the flow, right? You can look at incarnation as a structured way that consciousness expresses itself, right? So basically, it's simple. You have the source of awareness, the perspective that experiences, the organizing intelligence behind multiple lives, and then the human experience itself. This is your architecture right now. Notice this, you're listening from one lens, just from the human incarnation, right? Let's go back before this even happens, okay, what I refer to as the creator is not a being, but the source of all awareness. Okay, from that, there's what I call the perceiver, which is the first individualized point of view. We are all the perceiver. That's all of our origin. Okay, not all perceivers incarnate. That's where you have angels and guides. They're still perceiver based within this field of of of consciousness. But they don't incarnate the same field you have consciousness, which is plants, animals, environment, planet, all of that same field. So we all connected in this field, right? We want to experience incarnation our perceiver. Okay? A perceiver decides the perceiver is essentially the first point where awareness becomes perspective. Right before that, there's no separation with the perceiver. There's now a way for experience to be known from somewhere. So you, instead of Alex, you the perceiver. Alex the perceiver.

Alex Ferrari 17:46
It's like a superhero name,

Niko Kapoutsos 17:52
Decides, Okay, we're gonna have an incarnation, and then the oversoul is created. The oversoul is the level that holds the totality of experiences across lifetime, all lifetimes. The oversoul actually was touched by Ralph Waldo Emerson in 1841 and coined the right and notice 1841 nobody speaks about the oversoul. Still, that goes back to the control we spoke about earlier, the fear. It's scary to speak about something that is in the rock the system, but it's true, okay? And then from the oversoul, the higher self is what organizes and stabilizes a specific incarnation that's created. Now, all of these are components of your own essence, right? And the human self is the localized expression where awareness is experienced through the body and mind. Now, as your identity is conditioned throughout your life, nobody focuses on the on this architecture. They focus on the now, who I am. But if you notice little toddlers, before their identity has been crafted, they are in awareness. They're very aware. They're alert. And we keep saying, as adults, don't speak to the imaginary friend. You know that's your imagination playing tricks on you. Notice that? Because, again, we're pulled to the conditioning, but we forget the architecture. So when you remember the architecture and you remember your different components, there is no separation, there is no loss, there is no ability to connect, because we're all essence. We all come from the same exact architecture. We all have that frequency. We all have the same exact mechanism coming through awareness. Everything appears in awareness, your thought, your speech, your sensation, your emotions, even your body's in awareness. Everything happens. It's what we do with it. Once we receive we notice it, how we all do it, that's the misunderstanding. That's where everyone's lost and confused. That's where even mediums are given misinformation. I'm like, that's not even accurate, but that's how they're taught, and that's what they believe. Because they not, they're not focusing on the architecture,

Alex Ferrari 19:56
Because I've spoken to a few mediums in my day. So.

Niko Kapoutsos 20:00
I bet you have

Alex Ferrari 20:01
A couple, from my understanding. And this goes for psychics and mediums and even channelers, for that, for that sake, is that the information comes in, but it comes in through our filter, our perception, and that they have to kind of like they'll go, I see a rose. What is a rose? Does a rose mean anything to you? And that kind of thing is, it is from your understanding. Is that kind of the way it is? Like this information comes in and you have to kind of interpret it in through your lens?

Niko Kapoutsos 20:32
No, for evidential mediums that you're referring to. This is where a lot of them remain inconsistent, because they believe they have to translate it. Okay? They're just the radio,

Alex Ferrari 20:45
Right! They're broadcasting it. So, in other words, the road, so the information that the song, the rose song, comes in,

Niko Kapoutsos 20:51
It's already there. Let it come in the Rose give it the way it is. Why do they have to interpret it? Doesn't have to make sense to them.

Alex Ferrari 20:58
Remember,

Niko Kapoutsos 20:59
This is, this is a commit. This is the connection between that spirit connect to the loved one and the sitter, the person that's still alive. That's their connection. I don't know the sitter and I don't know the spirit connected. So why am I trying to make it mine? I don't have to understand it, but that's the control of the identity. I feel safer when I understand it, so they misinterpret it. Okay? You just the radio. You just turn the knob on and let the frequency come through. You just receive whatever you receive and give it understanding that within this field that we'll speak about, as we said, the auric field, the consciousness field and awareness. So that spirit connector is touching into the auric field, their essence, their energy, touching into the auric field. That expression that's coming through, may it be a visual or a word or a sentence, whatever, anything a smell, it's coming in from the auric field that is merging into the human consciousness field. It is appearing in awareness. The human is noticing it in awareness through the same exact mechanism. Offer it the same way you're receiving it. Don't alter it. Don't make it yours. Don't ask for clarity or affirmation, just give it.

Alex Ferrari 22:06
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Niko Kapoutsos 22:27
I'm receiving a song of a rose. I see the rose. I feel the thorns. Something about pain, whatever. Just bring it in.

Alex Ferrari 22:33
So let me stop you there for a second. Nico, so and then this gets into the Claires, the the multiple Claires that you have clear voice, clear audience, all that kind of stuff. So there's smell, there's actual visuals that you actually see, you know someone there talking to you, or they never talk, from my understanding, but that you could see things and see beings or spirits or things like that, is that, is that within the realm of what you're trying to explain as well.

Niko Kapoutsos 22:59
Now notice again, the perception is that that's pulling the identity is pulling it back to me. It's my ability. Through my Claire's I've worked on my clairvoyance or my clear audience. This is me. Notice how a lot of the teaching is back, pointed directly back to me. Right? The Claire's are more like feelers, right? We have our senses. It does it. That doesn't mean that's where it begins. It's just how we it's how we are interpreting what we're receiving. But again, again, we're adding another layer that's not part of the mechanism, and that's what makes it difficult, because we're adding a layer based on the identity is control. It has to be part of me. It's not part of you the same way, the thought is not part of you.

Alex Ferrari 23:43
I think we're both saying the same thing, but we're we're just saying it differently. I don't disagree with what you're saying, but like, when? But like, if I see a dead person, you know, my uncle Bob. Uncle Bob is very famous on the show, Uncle Bob shows up, right? And I see Uncle Bob in the corner, and Uncle Bob's holding a hatchet. And then I'm doing a reading for someone, and I'm like, I see this guy, and I describe the person what he's dressed like. And they go, Oh, that's my uncle Bob. And I go, okay, great. He's holding a hatchet. He goes, Oh, he used to cut sugar cane back in Cuba, back in the day, and that's what he's trying to say. So that's just another way of me tuning, not tuning in, but another way for that to come through. It's just another ability. It's another sense to do it, because some people see, some people hear, some people smell, some people taste, some people feel all so it's all dependent, but it's just like you said, they're feelers, but it's just depending on the person, on what they are more inclined to, am I? Is that correct?

Niko Kapoutsos 24:39
Yeah, this is where the clears come in handy, because it's also understanding that that spirit connector is not coming forth with memory the way the sitter has the memory. There is no memory. There's no body, there is no frontal lobe to hold memory. Is energy. There's not happening, but what is happening is when. I leave this world, okay, the human consciousness field retreats, goes back. Right. The auric field remains right. So my auric field, my outer layer, remains in this reality. How, what I'm connecting with the spirit connector is that the projection of that spirit, that that spirit connector is coming through the same auric field left behind in the auric field is residue of personality, of emotion, of whatever, whatever came through. They're tapping into, the subconscious resource of the sitter. So Uncle Bob is in the sitter's memory. It's not coming in as Uncle Bob. So tapping into both, because all of our consciousness fields are overlapping, all of us,

Alex Ferrari 25:57
Because we've all kind of agreed to it at this point in the room.

Niko Kapoutsos 26:01
Everything, even, even right now, even this right now, you and I are not communicating. It's not human to human. It's essence to essence through the human form. So even this right now is a contractual agreement. Our essence is made prior to the incarnation. It just happened to be on this day. There's nothing is random. There's no accidents. Everything is aligned. Notice

Alex Ferrari 26:24
That's what we need to do

Niko Kapoutsos 26:25
Right! Exactly. It's an alignment, right? This is meant to happen. What the future holds is also part of the of the alignment of the of the contract, of the agreement. When, even when the city comes to an evidential medium, it's the same thing. It wasn't, man, didn't you just find them. It was meant to happen. Everything is meant to happen. Everything is a contractual agreement. Essence for essence. Everything. If not, you would have met 50 more times of people you've met already throughout your life. But it's still limited. You see people they met from from childhood and no longer in your life, some of them are still present. Everything is intentional. Notice the number of the population of the world and the tiny fraction that you've come across in this existence. Because that tiny fraction is all contractual obligations, covenants, soul contracts, whatever you want to call them, everything and all the human consciousness feels overlapping. That's why you can send somebody miles away and they text you, oh, I'm just thinking about you, yeah, because that's what it is. So it's not an ability, it's not a phenomenon. It's understanding what's behind it by not trying to view it only through the lens of your human identity, which has control and these needs a center to be me, kind of bypassing that and trying to see it through the lens of your higher self, understanding the interconnectedness.

Alex Ferrari 27:53
It's Niko, this is all beautiful. I absolutely love it. I love the way you're articulating this, these ideas, because it's not it's just a slightly different perspective or reorganization of the ideas of it, and it's a clarification. It's a clarification of what this is. Again, again, I've spoken to so many psychic mediums. I know many of them are dear friends of mine who are psychic mediums, and I've asked these questions 100 times, but this is the first time that I've really gotten this kind of really mechanical

Niko Kapoutsos 28:23
That's what it's about.

Alex Ferrari 28:24
Yeah, the science, if you will, science of it, the science behind it is interesting.

Niko Kapoutsos 28:32
And this is something that you're learning in school, not yet, right?

Alex Ferrari 28:37
I don't know of our lifetime, but yeah, maybe

Niko Kapoutsos 28:39
No, it's starting right now. I'm speaking about it. I'm sure there's others around the world that are saying the same thing. This is a this is a remembrance. This is when look at trans right? Trance is usually described as something unusual or separate from everyday experience, right? You've had trance mediums. But what's more useful is to look at what's actually happened when people say, Oh, can everybody do trans? 100% they can

Alex Ferrari 29:05
Absolutely.

Niko Kapoutsos 29:05
Because the same process we're using right now to speak and think is the same process involved in trans, right? The difference isn't the ability, is the level of interference in every the what?

Alex Ferrari 29:18
That you're creating yourself, the interference that you're creating

Niko Kapoutsos 29:22
The idea the identity exactly right in everyday experience. Identity is constantly monitoring and adjusting what's happening in trance that interference reduces, so expression continues without being interrupted.

Alex Ferrari 29:36
So is that the flow?

Niko Kapoutsos 29:39
That's exactly the flow

Alex Ferrari 29:40
The flow state, the flow state that acts get into, or artists get into,

Niko Kapoutsos 29:44
They don't interfere, and expression continue without being interrupted. That's the flow state. That's trans that's what you do throughout your day. You're driving home in a familiar road. You get home before you even drove there. You daydream. You lost time all of that. That is, your interference reduces. So trance is happening 24/7 just as your thoughts and speech appear. 24/7 all through the same mechanism. That's why, when people you know think of separation, oh, I have to die to go back to heaven and with ghosts and Patrick space, his body comes out of as a silhouette. That's all. That's all misinterpretation. It's not that's not real at all. None of it,

Alex Ferrari 30:26
Right! I got you. I got you. So then, of course there's no, hell

Niko Kapoutsos 30:31
No, of course not. And when people say, Do you are there any negative entities that just pop in and take over your body? Of course not. We are, the expression, back to the architecture in that infinite field of consciousness where all of us are, the origin the perceivers, right? That's pure, unconditional love, right? Why did my perceiver, my version, my essence of the perceiver, wish to incarnate when people say, Oh, I can't stand this, this life, and there's too much pain. The root of all pain is love. You can't have pain without understanding love somebody hurt you. You love them first. That's why they hurt you. So that's the lesson. Your essence is learning love in multiple degrees by an incarnation,

Alex Ferrari 31:23
And they can't learn it any other way,

Niko Kapoutsos 31:25
Exactly, because there's no pain. Pain is an illusion. There's no time. Time is an illusion, right? You were saying something before, and I was gonna say about parallel realities. That's why time is great, because it's an illusionary concept, but it's vital for you to stay online with the trajectory. But there's multiple versions going on that you're even unfamiliar with.

Alex Ferrari 31:53
So there's other versions. There's other versions of this conversation happening right now,

Niko Kapoutsos 31:57
100% 100%

Alex Ferrari 32:00
And now we're going to make our audience's head explode, because we're just focusing on we're just focusing on one life. But as you mentioned, there are many lives exactly to my under and to my understanding. There's no past life because there's no time, there's no future life because there's no time that's exactly, all the lives are happening at the same time. So right now, you and me are both in Egypt, ancient Egypt, Atlantis, Rome, Greece. You know, all at the same time those incarnations are happening at the same time. That really makes your head hurt.

Niko Kapoutsos 32:34
The human the identity is mine, yes, but not your essence, because you feel it. It's not only that, it's also our relationship, right? Yeah, right. Today, we're strangers. We just met, but they're off the bat. I could feel a resonance to you. Why

Alex Ferrari 32:51
When I that's the thing, and that's when, when I choose guests for the show, it's very and people always ask, how do you choose guests for the show? How do you is it based on numbers? It says, based on subscribers. I'm like, No, I just I have to look at them. And anytime my wife says, What would you think of this person? I go, I need to see them. Put them up on a video. And as soon as I see them, it's about five to 10 seconds. And I'll go, yes or no,

Niko Kapoutsos 33:16
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 33:16
It's that. It's that simple. So when I saw you, I was like, oh, Niko, where have you been? Come on, because I just felt it. It was something that was, it's very instinctual, very gut based.

Niko Kapoutsos 33:30
What is gut?

Alex Ferrari 33:32
Oh, god. Is intuition?

Niko Kapoutsos 33:33
Exactly intuition, right? But we don't recognize with intuition. And this is, this is probably the most profound remembrance I've gone through. We each have a higher self. This is also your essence, another component of it which governs every single incarnation. It doesn't speak to it doesn't text. It doesn't call you. It directly communicates through intuition. We have throughout your life. We have dismissed intuition so many times that after we did something decision maker, I should have done my gut intuition. That's direct guidance from the from the higher self,

Alex Ferrari 34:23
And direct interference by ourselves,

Niko Kapoutsos 34:26
Exactly, exactly. But even that's intentional, even that's intentional, it's like the higher self is gonna bring the intuition and know that he's gonna react a certain way, because that's the lesson in there somewhere. Okay, the same exact way the higher self is able to send in information through intuition. It's also able to and as we also comes in, it's also able to connect through conscious overlapping, you and the other parallel realities. So even though we're here now, we don't know what the other parallel realities are. We might be brothers. We might be siblings. I mean. Them, parents, anything, friends, enemies, you even know so, but that cross consciousness over like is what happens, right? How about how many times if you woke up in the morning and you just irritated for no reason, no reason, you're irritated, and then

Alex Ferrari 35:16
I have to, I have children, sir. So, yeah,

Niko Kapoutsos 35:18
Okay, if everything was going great, everybody's happy, but you wake up and irritated in the last two then it's gone. Yeah. What is that? What is that? That is what's happening in the architecture. Another parallel version of you is holding on to too much and can't handle to the bust. So the higher self takes some of that irritation, places it on you for an hour, Parks it there for an hour or two, because you could handle at that moment, to give your other parallel version time, to smooth that out, and it puts it right back where belongs. This happens all the time, and we don't recognize it,

Alex Ferrari 35:57
No, of course not,

Niko Kapoutsos 35:58
Because you're looking at it through a singular lens, this singular lens right here.

Alex Ferrari 36:03
So generally speaking, as we walk through life, we we come in wide open. And as babies, we're wide open. And, you know, I have children, so I know they were beautifully wide open, but as those first seven years, as they say that wideness starts to narrow, to narrow, to narrow, which we're building this quote, unquote identity of

Niko Kapoutsos 36:26
That's exactly right,

Alex Ferrari 36:27
Of this person. So the religion where we live, our morals, our ethics, all of these things, you know, and all the programming of money is hard to get, or money's easy to get, you know, that kind of stuff, all that stuff there. And then most, a lot of people stay in that, that lane, but for the but for a handful, which is now growing more and more on a daily basis. And we'll talk about that in a minute, we start asking questions again. You You ask questions about your religion. I asked questions of I was raised Roman Catholic. I asked questions about my religion, and I was just start. And then the awareness starts to creak open a little bit. Creak open a little bit. Then you get a book that just blows your mind wide open. Then you watch a podcast that, like this one, which I promise you, is going to blow someone's head in a beautiful, beautiful way. And it's going to start opening, opening more. And we until we can get back to this beautiful awareness of like, oh the truth, which is where the Masters get to eventually, where, where Christ and Buddha and Yogananda and many of the walking masters and avatars that walk found quote, unquote, enlightenment, because they were able to open up and go, Oh, I see what's going on here,

Niko Kapoutsos 37:34
Right!

Alex Ferrari 37:34
Is that,

Niko Kapoutsos 37:36
Aren't we all okay? How are you so certain that in 50 years from now, the more you expand into your awareness, into the remembrance, into the architecture, into the purpose, into parallel reality, into all that. How are you so certain in 50 years, you won't be considered a master. What is a master? We turn them on. I mean, again, I'm not dismissing Jesus, but I've even had Jesus come through me in trance half a dozen times. It's amazing. It's an amazing, energetic experience. And I honor Jesus. Because why these Ascended Masters? They just didn't they want tethered to the identity as strongly as humanity is today. So they wore the teachers. They will plant the season. You're saying, but so are we.

Alex Ferrari 38:26
We are all capable. Jesus said it, we're all capable. I what I could do? You could do it more

Niko Kapoutsos 38:31
Exactly, exactly.

Alex Ferrari 38:32
And it's, it's absolutely true.

Niko Kapoutsos 38:34
You're doing it now. You're planting the seeds by offering this podcast, by allowing your, your your awareness, to shift to remembers by bringing on people that are speaking the truth. You know, I was a contractor in New York. This was not at all in my lane and my projection at all. You know, in trance, I'm receiving information. You need to write these books. It was one. Now it's going to be a series of 10 books all together by the time I'm dead, which is explaining consciousness from the inside out. You know, courses, creating an online academy, this was not at all what I wanted to do at all. I left a successful career as a contractor to move to Greek island, starting from scratch, living month to month. And you know what? I'm so happy because I'm remembering my essence, and I'm not allowing my identity to hold me in such control. And that's what it is. It's not about your success and what you perceive. You know, the most toys wins. It's about Did did you fulfill the purpose of your essence? Are you remembering? Are you speaking your truth, especially when all of those that you love are against you? And it's easier to shut your mouth and to speak your truth, but you're unaware if you speak your truth? Are you. Plant in the seeds as a part of the Covenant, part of the contract. You unaware.

Alex Ferrari 40:04
So when, when you finally decide to to come out and do this professionally, publicly, and your basically, your family disowned you, essentially,

Niko Kapoutsos 40:13
Yeah, they don't speak to me, friends, none of them forgot about me. My one sister does, and she tries to distant, but she can't, but she just doesn't bother with it, you know? She bought my first just never read it. She got, like, page 20 goes, I don't, I can't do this. I don't get it. But she's very much into the Orthodox religion. I don't know, I think that for buying it, you know? But again, it's not about that.

Alex Ferrari 40:36
Go ahead. So my, so, my question to you, then, is, why did, why did you choose to come in through that, that portal, that family, that those institutions, because you could have been born into some, you know, some hippies and a commune somewhere in Northern California, and This would have been a lot easier.

Niko Kapoutsos 41:00
Hold on, apparently,

Alex Ferrari 41:01
Okay, let's stay in this reality Niko. Come on, we're asking too much of the audience. You're like, Well, what about apparently, Okay, listen, you're asking me to run. You're asking me to run a marathon. I haven't even got off the couch yet. Let's, let's stay, let's stay on this, this reality, this reality. The question is, why did you choose to come through it? There's a lesson in this question.

Niko Kapoutsos 41:26
Yeah, of course.

Alex Ferrari 41:27
Yeah. So why do you think you chose to come in through because I A lot of times I asked myself when I was growing up, when? Because I wanted to be a filmmaker, and I eventually became one. But it was so hard to struggle because I was basically in Florida the entire time, not the mecca of Hollywood at the time I was growing up. And I'm like, man, it would have been so much easier, man, if I would have lived in Los Angeles and I would have done this, and I would have done that, yeah, God, it would have been so much easier. My career would have taken off much faster, because I would have had more access, more all of this kind of stuff. And I always wondered, why did I come in through a Cuban family in South Florida, raised in New York then come back to floor like it just on paper. It's insane. Yeah,

Niko Kapoutsos 42:05
I know. I know what you mean. I My understanding is that the beginning part of the journey is again. Architecture is set in stone. It's already created for the ending to occur. So the remembrance has become more profound because of where it started.

Alex Ferrari 42:27
Of course,

Niko Kapoutsos 42:28
okay, not only that, it's also a ripple effect across consciousness, across my parallel lives. So the more my art was so drastic, and trust me, I felt this for years. I'm very sensitive to energy, the spirit, presence. For years, I tried to have one that as a kid, I showed it for 1015, years, because again, I I was afraid to to walk away from the familiarity of that life. I knew there'd be, there'd be, you know, percussion. I knew people would turn on me, and that, you know, it's difficult to perceive your loved ones turning on you, so you kind of stay with it, just so that doesn't happen. But after a while,

Alex Ferrari 43:14
It was coming

Niko Kapoutsos 43:15
100% it was obvious, you know, but, but you just, my insides were tearing up inside, I had to follow my my myself right now. I'm sorry I cut you off, because the remembrance is so profound. Isn't it safe to assume that it's rippling into all parallel realities that occur right now my essence in other times and dimensions and realities, so isn't my profound awakening helping somebody else of my

Alex Ferrari 43:43
Oh, absolutely.

Niko Kapoutsos 43:45
That's why. That's why the beginning part is so abstract and different than the ending, because it's meant to be that way in order for other parallel realities to get a hit. Other parallel realities, they might be in the hippie in the hippie family, is fine with them. Other could be the extreme opposite. We don't know all of the lessons and all of the lives we're not meant to we're meant to just figure out this one

Alex Ferrari 44:11
In this life. So I have to ask you this again. Sorry guys. We're gonna go into the matrix here, a little deep into the into the weeds here, but

Niko Kapoutsos 44:19
The weeds

Alex Ferrari 44:20
Into the weeds a bit here.

Niko Kapoutsos 44:20
So we,

Alex Ferrari 44:20
We're going into the weeds. Everyone strap in, because I'm gonna, I'm gonna, this is gonna be hard. So prepare yourselves. All right. So if we're living in this life, and then there's parallel realities to this life, from my understanding, there's endless parallel realities of this life, of this of Nico, of Nico, this personality, this identity, but multiple versions of it, obviously different versions of it, because if you were raised in a hippie commune, you're not going to be this guy. You have a different perspective. But this, this character, let's say the Niko character and the Alex character. Okay, okay. Now so. Parallel realities of happening, of this. Now, you and I are both in Atlantis right now.

Niko Kapoutsos 45:06
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 45:06
In another, in another lifetime, and in that lifetime we have infinite realities as well. So

Niko Kapoutsos 45:13
Right

Alex Ferrari 45:13
This, so this okay, and then we, we have 1000s, if not millions, of lives of individual characters. We'll call them characters for Yeah, hold on, yeah, just to hold on to something

Niko Kapoutsos 45:25
You might be an Indian woman in India, right? Right now. Alex, here,

Alex Ferrari 45:30
Absolutely, in the different time periods throughout human history.

Niko Kapoutsos 45:35
Yes.

Alex Ferrari 45:35
Okay, so all of that has happened, right? So history, exactly throughout, did you say? I said human history, yes, all right,

Niko Kapoutsos 45:43
I understand

Alex Ferrari 45:44
Not spirit history, human history

Niko Kapoutsos 45:47
History, is an illusion, right?

Alex Ferrari 45:50
Well, the whole damn thing's an illusion. We're not in the matrix. Niko, so let's just start from there. Now I'm trying to, I'm trying to work with you in this reality on these set of rules Niko,

Niko Kapoutsos 46:00
Okay, gotcha

Alex Ferrari 46:01
Bear with me.

Niko Kapoutsos 46:02
2026 got it

Alex Ferrari 46:03
Exactly. Okay, all of these. So all of these lives are happening and all these parallel lives are happening at the same time. So the lessons that we learn through Nico and Alex in this lifetime, we'll just, let's get back to this lifetime, right? And all the parallel versions of that we're learning multiple lessons in all these other parallel lives. So the hippie Nico, who was raised in a commune in Northern California in the same time period as we live in now, has learned so many different lessons and has dealt with so many different obstacles in his life than you have. And then there's been other ones that have been super like so basically for you, you have obviously had to deal with issues with your family and rejection from your family, but that he didn't have to deal with that, but he might have had to deal with other things that you don't have to deal with in this life. Yeah, vice versa. So this life is really it's big bang for your buck, if you will, with all these parallel realities that you're getting, all of these lessons, infinite amount of lessons, through this avatar, through this character.

Niko Kapoutsos 47:07
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 47:07
Is so is that all makes sense 100%

Niko Kapoutsos 47:07
And, oh, I just add one thing, even that hippie who doesn't experience the same issues I do, is still learning from what I experienced, and that's intuition. That's that you had no

Alex Ferrari 47:24
So, so is that what they talk about when they talk about quantum jumping? If you heard the term quantum jumping where you like, Hey, I just like to go talk to the Niko. I'm gonna, I'm gonna go talk to the Alex that was super, super rich, or super whatever, and I'm gonna learn lessons on how to be wealthy or I'm gonna learn how to play the guitar, because in another lifetime, Alex is a master guitar player, right? By the way, I have an absolute I don't. It's like a weird thing with acoustic guitar. I love, like, Flamingo guitar, specifically, but I guess, but I can't, but I can't play. And I've tried, and it's just not, I mean, I'm sure if I really sat down and tried, I could do something, but it's something that connects with me. So I have to believe then if that there's another version of me, a flamenco guitar player, Master flamenco guitar player, and that's why I love that echoes.

Niko Kapoutsos 48:19
You're also connecting cross conscious overlap to the emotion of the love for that. That's why you feel the desire for I love the sax. I never bother picking it up. I could feel the love of playing it. I've seen myself playing it right. What people don't understand about trance, and again, why it always happens, and it's not a rare phenomenon, is that what I am in my trance, in these trans transmissions that are happening, I'm not here. I'm not present in my body or the words coming out of my mouth, nor is they taking over my body. Just so your listeners understand there's no possession going on. It's the same exact mechanism that's happening, right? But you see to understand that first, let me just back up our essence, our spirit, is not in the body, as we're taught to believe it's impossible, right? I wrote about that on my books. It'd be like the junkyard. The compressor just crushing the car. It's too powerful to crush the body, right? So your essence is is not in the body, but it utilizes the breath as the interface to blend with the energy of the body. The body has its own energy, right? That interface of the breath is exactly how trance happens. It's the collaboration your essence and the spirit essence combined coming through the same interface of the breath. The breath is what allows us to speak. That's how trans speaking happens. So while this is all happening and I'm aware of the the mechanism, I don't have to be present. So my mind is not here. I don't care about the words or who's watching me, that's where you're crossing into what. Overlap consciousness is I could see a scene playing out where playing the sax, and I know it's me when I say clear cognizance that in the knowing that I just know this is happening, that's also intuition that's cross conscious. That's where you you could kind of glimpse other realities that are going on, but you'll stay in the more, because it's not relevant to your life right now. It's the understanding that it is happening, and that's all you need to know. So there is no right choice or wrong choice. Well, you decide I made a mistake here. That's that's just the identity thrown in his control to make you feel bad. Your decision making split your trajectory, and that other parallel version of you is living the other decision you didn't make, and that's how that trajectory is happening. So everything is intentional, because that's how you grow. If your essence is so powerful and intelligent and in this beautiful field of consciousness, why would it rely on one life when it can, oh, create many

Alex Ferrari 51:02
Well, that's the thing I always, I always, in my Catholic days, I always wondered, I'm like, Well, wait a minute, you mean to tell me when I heard, when I first discovered reincarnation, the idea of it, the concept of it. I'm like, that makes sense to me. Like that absolutely makes 110% sense to me. Because You mean to tell me that the only time I'm going to get to experience this, this this reality, is through this body, through these parents, this country, through this that's it. And then you meet the tell me that the the kid, or the baby, who's born and dies instantly, or or has a very bad disease and dies a year later, and it's just a year of just torment and horror for and pain for this child. That's it. That's that was this, that was just luck of the draw. I'm like, that I'm like, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense as a god like, I'm like, Dude, seriously, like, is that? Is that what this is about? Yeah. I mean, that didn't make any sense to me. So as I've tried to, you know, we're all trying to figure this out. This is an insane game that we're in. It's an insane I mean, it's insane. It's insane. We're thrown in here. We're trying to figure it out. We meet these strangers who, apparently our parents. We figure this out. They start teaching us some they sometimes. Some of them do the best they can. Some of them do the worst they can. It all depends. So we're all just trying to figure out why we're here, what this is and what we're supposed to be doing here. Yeah, in many I think that's and I think that's the scope of all of it. And we all find a story that we grab on to, the story of every aspect of our existence, the story of how we look, the story of how we are supposed to work the story about money, the story about love, the story about relationships, the story about the country you live in, and all in the religion, all of it is just, you're just grabbing on to stuff. So you can just figure hold on tight for this ride is like you're lost in the sea, and you see some dinghies, and you grab on to them, and hold on tight. Now, some of them, some people get so afraid that they don't let go, kind of like people who are stuck in a certain kind of religion that they just are not open to any other ideas, or they're just so, just so stuck that they can't even accept somebody else's experience. And that's where war start,

Niko Kapoutsos 53:22
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 53:22
Like My God, My God is better than your God, because that's the story I've told myself. And you're you can't be good, and that's the other thing I never understood. I'm sorry. I'm venting now. Niko,

Niko Kapoutsos 53:35
Yeah, you know it's funny, because it's, you're right. We are on a journey of trying to figure out purpose, essence, but notice, though, we're trying to figure it out to the same conditioned mind of the identity, right? That's limitation, right? That's interference we have, that's remember. We have remembrance built into us, because we're still that essence. We still have the components of the architecture when we don't seek, when we're not trying to figure it out, utilizing the conditioned mind, trusting the intuition, clarity returns. That's remembrance. The question is. The question is not, will it happen? Is, can you trust it? Because it's not being generated by the conditioned mind. And that's where people get stuck because they don't trust it. And they resume the identity, and they stay lost, and they stay confused, and they continue to question that. They are debating what you said about who's better. God, that happened. I was 10 years old. By the way, a Jewish neighbor said there's only God is like, what blew my mind? That's what I'm saying. It's about. Don't try to figure it out, because you already have the answers. Allow the remembrance to occur that. That's why you can't remember if it's noisy, if the kids are acting up, Nico, the dog is barking, the wife is calling you, you can't you too. You too caught up in the human identity, you can't connect. That's why it's vital find half an hour every day, just sit in your silence. Don't even bother to project anything. Don't send an intention. Sit in your silence and listen to the intuition. That's what the remembrance is beautifully being provided in clarity. That's what you remember. That's exactly how I got all of this. Everything came like this, and there's more to come.

Alex Ferrari 55:36
Oh, and so let's, let's, let's. We've been talking about the micro a lot here. We thought, let's get into the macro a bit more into

Niko Kapoutsos 55:45
Okay,

Alex Ferrari 55:46
All of us together. So as a a psychic medium, you obviously, you get messages all the time. Do you ever get messages about what is happening to all of us right now? Because there is a lot of fear out there about what's happening this they you know, anyone who's listening to the show has heard me say, and I'm not the first to say it the great awakening that we are all shifting in human consciousness, even in our lifetime. How much our how much consciousness is shift that this conversation is even happening is a miracle. You know, from where we get from, where we came from, right? You know. So it's been shifting, and in this conversation 100 years ago, maybe 150 years ago, we're burned at the stake. You know, kind of thing, you know, where now it's becoming a lot more mainstream. So there's obviously a shift in understanding and awareness and consciousness for humanity as a whole. What have you is, has anything come through about where we are right now and where we're going in the, say, the next five or 10 years?

Niko Kapoutsos 56:49
Okay, so let's, let's, let's break it down first. But people often talk about the macro or something distant or abstract, right? But what's more, more useful is to recognize that the same structure that operates at a larger level is already present in this moment. Okay, so something right now, something is being perceived All right? There's awareness, there's organization of that experience, of this expression, right? The same structure doesn't change at a larger scale, only the complexity of what's being organized changes. So with that said, Me Niko, the identity is not perceiving anything distant or different, is the understanding that everything is already occurring and being played out.

Alex Ferrari 57:47
Okay with that said, so then you know where the script is going, because it's play out. Okay. So can you tell us? So for the people who are afraid, can you, can you let a brother know what the lottery ticket numbers are

Niko Kapoutsos 57:59
Trying to soften it for those who are afraid first, then I'm gonna blow it up. Okay, when people talk about the macro, whether they call it the universe conscious of something else, they're often referring to a larger version of the same process, not something separate, just something less localized. So this is what people are not understanding. They're not remembering this, and they're viewing it as something devastating to come or a big change, but it's not. It's the same exact process. Okay? So we have to trust the process, trust what's already occurring, and not fear outcomes. The fear is based on the identity. You see, that's why we ask these questions, out of fear, am I safe? Will I be safe? What's going to happen? But first understand it's already a process that's occurring. You're living in it. You're part of it. You're our essence is beautiful, okay? Through trance. My guys have already spoken about this. Books have been written or guided to be written about this, there will be changes. It is a global awareness, expansion of humanity, consciousness, absolutely, it always comes back to the same. Find it in yourself first. That's your anchor. Recognize the consciousness everything we spoke about today. Recognize you're more than just the identity that loosens the fear when people fear all that is is the identities control disguised as fear. There is no fear. There's nothing to fear, because everything we said is intentional in this lifetime. So, yes, it will be intergalactic communication 100% maybe five years, less than five years 100% I wrote about that in the third book. How do I know that so well? Because, as we said before, where cross consciousness overlap for. For a couple of years, an intergalactic version of me has been reaching me through the trans states, dream states, the intuitive states, right? At first, I thought it was to just write a book about it, which I did. It was more about understanding, wait, there's more. There's more behind this, what's to come in the future. All this is going to come. It doesn't change the present moment. It just takes away the fear.

Alex Ferrari 1:00:32
Okay,

Niko Kapoutsos 1:00:33
Right? So what feels like a larger or macro experience and scares people. There's really just a shift in how much of that structure is accessible, something to fear. Allow yourself to access it. It's already there for a reason. Now, some people here in this is going to go right over the head. What the hell is he talking about? But if you just listen and trust your gut feeling you're in the knowing. Don't be afraid, because fear is the identity. Just trust your essence. You already know what's going to come. Everybody already knows what's going to unfold, because you're part of it. Because you wouldn't be in this incarnation on this particular lifetime, asking this exact question, Did I answer softly?

Alex Ferrari 1:01:22
That was a soft answer. That was a soft answer. So the way you answered it is how to basically relieve the fear,

Niko Kapoutsos 1:01:30
Yes, yes,

Alex Ferrari 1:01:34
Fantastic. So with that said, what are the lottery ticket numbers for if I if I knew, yeah, but that's another life. That's a parallel lifetime that we're millionaires. You know, that's not this lifetime.

Niko Kapoutsos 1:01:51
But how come we can experience that? Can't we share the body?

Alex Ferrari 1:01:57
You know? It's fun. It's funny. I saw, I saw, like, an Instagram post or something. And it was, it was a voice with some guys like, you know, I appreciate that God is in the universe, and my guides have really been challenging me with a lot of different things in my life. But, you know, what be really great experience. You know, just to be rich, I'd like to be as wealthy as humanly possible and deal with that, you know, like, I just would like to do that in this life. And that's, I thought it was funny the way they were saying it, because a lot of people don't understand that, you know, money when it's all cracked up to be famous, not what it's all cracked up to be. And there's examples of all of that throughout the piece. So, yeah, you know, it just, it just, it just magnifies who you are.

Niko Kapoutsos 1:02:40
Well, that was a very

Alex Ferrari 1:02:40
Both those things.

Niko Kapoutsos 1:02:40
Exactly that was a very big part of my conditioning, my identity, my father would always instill that, you know, it's about money, it's about success and this and that. I used to work 16 hour days. I was a successful contractor, and I had money at the largest house on the block. I had my my toy sports car. We went on three vacations a year. But again, it was what I was projecting as purpose of a life. And through all of that, something was missing inside. I never had my true happiness. See, now I have my true happiness, and none of that is around. But that's how you understand where the identity is pulling to, which creates an illusion. You follow it. We're like sheep. We're following what the identity is pulling us to condition what we believe, what we were taught. And it's not about that. It's about really looking at what's under the surface, and that's where you find your essence. And that's profound.

Alex Ferrari 1:03:34
So it is very profound. I want to, I want to tackle something that I feel that is, is kind of like an elephant in the room that a lot of people don't talk about with it with the experiences of both you and I, we both had similar yours more extreme than mine, because I didn't come out like a weirdo psychic medium, but I, but I came out like a weirdo who speaks to psychic mediums. So, so we're a little bit different, but same ballpark. When I started this show, I lost a lot of friends, family, no, no family for me, my family, we're all kind of, they're all kind of, woo, woo, because we're Cuban and Latin American, and that's kind of in our culture, the psychics, the mediums, the Santeria, all that kind of stuff that we were raised with. So it's not as much. But I did lose friends after this because they just couldn't understand that. They couldn't grasp why I was doing this. What this was all was you obviously had a more extreme version of that. The reason I want to bring this up is a lot of people who who portray themselves in the in the world, as Christian, as Catholics, as following Christ, are the least Christ, like people I've ever met in my entire life,

Niko Kapoutsos 1:04:45
100%

Alex Ferrari 1:04:46
I mean, it just drives me absolutely bet when anyone, when I see them like, you know, thumping the Bible, and I'm like, but that's, well, first of all, Jesus never wrote a Bible, so there's that. She. Throw that out there. Just say he never wrote anything down, but that's another conversation for another day, but, but they don't act, they don't they don't walk the walk that they're talking

Niko Kapoutsos 1:05:12
Right!

Alex Ferrari 1:05:12
And that's so frustrating to me, so And please forgive me, and I don't mean to kind of overstep, but your family is so into the Orthodox Greek you know religion, and I'm assuming the Orthodox Greek religion has something to do with Christ. I'm assuming, right?

Niko Kapoutsos 1:05:28
Of course.

Alex Ferrari 1:05:30
No, no, I have to. I'm just clarifying, right? So Christ would have never rejected you for doing this. If anything, there are stories of Christ doing things that were he talked about reincarnation. He spoke to women, taught women for God's sakes. That was, that was frowned upon. It was actually illegal. He was a rebel, a troublemaker, and he only showed love to people, yeah, and he got angry. He flipped the table in the temple, but yet, the people who follow his his people who follow his teachings, don't act the way they do, because it's not, it's not within the structure of the religion or of the set of rules that they have been brought up to believe in or that they tout. Yeah, I find that such an interesting idea. How did you deal? Did you ever have that question within yourself, like, Wow, you guys are, you know, and I, again, I don't want to poke. I'm not trying to poke anything. Or I don't want to. I want to be as respectful as possible to you and your experiencer. But when that happened to you, and I think there's a lesson here for people listening, when that happened to you? Did you question? You're like, Wow, you guys are, like, really into this Greek Orthodox religion, but yet and really into this Christ guy, but you're not acting like him by throwing me out or rejecting what I am as at my truth, and I'm not hurting anybody. It's not like you're off doing meth somewhere you know, hurting yourself or how the other people you're not a drug dealer. You know you're you're just speaking your truth out of love. So I find it so interesting that people who say that they follow Christ never act that way. A lot of people don't, excuse me that never, but it doesn't act that way, especially in your condition, and then in a smaller way, my my my experience. So I just wanted to throw that out there to you, because I think there's some there's a lesson here for people listening. I think someone listening needs to hear this.

Niko Kapoutsos 1:07:26
Okay, you know what? First of all, before I answer that question, somebody actually responded to a post I made on Facebook regarding a course I was offering, and they they stated scripture from the Bible about do not follow a medium, right? But the idea is that when the church was first created, and many people don't even know this, they had a priest offering the sermon and then followed with a medium, bringing in loved ones and messages. And the medium was more popular. People would come at the end of church for that and skip the liturgy, the service. And that's when they got rid of the medium so they can control the mass

Alex Ferrari 1:08:07
Composition,

Niko Kapoutsos 1:08:08
Make money, become powerful. And in order to preserve their control and success, they started banning the medium, bad mouthing the medium, and, you know, burning them and burning them, killing them exactly. You referenced me as a psychic medium a couple of times, and that's fine. I have the problem with that. What I do is usually. What I do is usually describe that way, but the way I approach it is a bit different, right? I'm less focused on the label, and we'll focus on understanding how information is actually appearing and being expressed, because whether we call us it's psychic mediumship or something else, the underlining mechanism is the same, right, and with that approach, is how I also recognize when my identity interfered was when I felt the pain of being the outcast and losing family and or not being understood. But then, then I went back to the underlining mechanism and understanding my quest of of seeking knowledge and remembrance, applying it to soul contracts, applying it to growth, applying it to that's their journey. This is my journey, and nothing really phases me anymore. I don't, I don't. It doesn't affect me, nor am I affecting them. And also, if my parents don't speak to me anymore, how am I so certain is my identity that's not part of the soul agreement? Maybe that's intentional so they can go through their changes now in their later years, maybe they'll see the plant that they're asking themselves, am I really honoring my belief, or am I the Bible thumping? Am I a hypocrite? Maybe that's why the silence is powerful. See, there's a lot more behind it, but when we're seeking it to appease. Is the identities interest. We're not following the truth. We're creating illusions. We're creating what is a good answer to appease me as my identity and soften the blow? But there is no blow if you really think about it.

Alex Ferrari 1:10:16
No, this is all an illusion in general. But while we're here, though, if you hurt, you feel that's the point of this whole thing,

Niko Kapoutsos 1:10:24
But now,

Alex Ferrari 1:10:26
But then you can transcend, but you can transcend it, right? That's the thing. But you have to go through it, though, because I'm assuming at one point or another, you, you were hurt. Yeah, you now it was painful.

Niko Kapoutsos 1:10:36
Also notice how much pain you've experienced over this life so far. Okay, now, out of that, what percentage really broke the surface and landed deep? That that percentage is what lasts when that breaks the surface and really gets you deep. That's how your Higher Self actually integrates it, feeling it, as you live it. All the other pain that doesn't reach the surface and penetrate it, that's part of the human existence that's not real, so that never really penetrated. That's how I know it's surface level and it's just part of an experience. It's the reaction of an experience. It doesn't really hurt, that really deep love that really penetrates, that's intentional. That's the agreement when it really breaks the surface. That's the covenant taking place. That's how your your human, your higher self, integrates it. So you kind of learn how to gage it from the human lens.

Alex Ferrari 1:11:41
I mean, Nico, I absolutely love what you're doing, man, and how you're doing it. You seem like you seem like you seem like a depressed person and having a rough time at life. But as I was asking the question about your family, I'm like, you have a smile on your face. I'm like this guy.

Niko Kapoutsos 1:12:04
You're funny, dude. Hey, when can I buy one of those cool hats?

Alex Ferrari 1:12:10
There's a link right below. Anyone watching hey, you can purchase it right here on YouTube. It goes right to our shop.

Niko Kapoutsos 1:12:16
I plugged it awesome. I didn't even know I did that.

Alex Ferrari 1:12:21
I appreciate it. That was that was not planned, that was not planned. I mean, this has been such a beautiful conversation Nico, and I think it's, it's a conversation. It's a conversation that, not only for me, at least it didn't only just gave me a different lens to look at all of the stuff that we do. It just, it just kind of like, you looking at it from a new perspective, it's not, it's not. We're all basically in the same ballpark, you know, our conversation where, yeah, it's not like apples and oranges, it's apples and Granny apples. Like it's both apples,

Niko Kapoutsos 1:12:56
Yeah, for good. That's really exactly a lot of podcasts I'm on, they, they're not, you know, resonating like you are. So that's, that's really great, and you should be proud of yourself. You're getting, you're remembering, good job.

Alex Ferrari 1:13:09
Yeah. And I think the same thing will happen to people listening, you know, because there are certain ideas that were thrown out in this conversation that is going to be mind blowing. Some of them, I even had to kind of start to like, Okay, wait a minute. Okay, this and I, I have these conversations all the time. I live in this kind of world all the time. So this was a really beautiful conversation. And I think it's even more so than just understanding the mechanics of a lot of this stuff. It really starts to help you wrap your head around what we're doing here,

Niko Kapoutsos 1:13:41
Exactly

Alex Ferrari 1:13:43
Why we're here, and also help us heal the perceived hurts. Yes throughout our lives. Yes. Because look, and I always tell people, like in 100 years from now, if you're remembered by anybody, it's a miracle. In 500 years by now, you would have had to have done something so miraculous in this lifetime to be even spoken about 1000 years from now, you're going to be one of a handful of humans that people will remember.

Niko Kapoutsos 1:14:14
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:14:14
If you look at it that way, and it's not because we're insignificant. It's about, no, we're here do what you can to bring as much love into the world, to be as kind as you can, to learn as much to experience as enough to be, to help others. That's what I see we're here to do. It's not about who gets the most toys. I that a long, long time ago,

Niko Kapoutsos 1:14:34
Right! It's also if you fulfill, if you fulfill your purpose as essence. Truly fulfill your purpose and lessons

Alex Ferrari 1:14:42
Correct,

Niko Kapoutsos 1:14:42
Whatever that is that outlives you, right? Yeah. So even because what I'm doing right now, again, it was never my intention to write the books and the courses and I've been with a movie. Well, we do with the movie. It all comes through me, and I'm just take it. Throwing out in the world like just I meant to bring this out, let it out there. I've come to the realization that it's going to outlive me. So it might not be impactful today, but in 50 years or 100 years from now, it's going to find its home with those that generation that's fulfilling your purpose.

Alex Ferrari 1:15:18
And I will give you a perfect example of that, and it's a sad example from our perspective, but it is a perfect example of what you're saying. Vincent van Gogh,

Niko Kapoutsos 1:15:29
Right!

Alex Ferrari 1:15:30
He lived His purpose and His essence his entire life, and died,

Niko Kapoutsos 1:15:36
Broke,

Alex Ferrari 1:15:37
Broke, mad, insane,

Niko Kapoutsos 1:15:40
Right!

Alex Ferrari 1:15:41
And and then he his work touched the world in a way that it's still resonating today. His life is interesting. For people who want to dig into his life, it's interesting, but his work is what sinks Charles Dickens. I don't know anything about Charles Dickens, really. I mean, other than he was English, I think English. He's a British, British, British chap, and he wrote some amazing books.

Niko Kapoutsos 1:16:06
Amazing,

Alex Ferrari 1:16:07
What but, but what did, what did you remember? What resonates to this day? Christmas Carol,

Niko Kapoutsos 1:16:13
Right!

Alex Ferrari 1:16:14
You know these other books that he wrote, you know, you know, Oliver Twist. These are books. These are the stories that still res Shakespeare. Very little is even known about that man,

Niko Kapoutsos 1:16:26
Right!

Alex Ferrari 1:16:26
And all, and all that work is, is what resonates that because they followed their as Joseph Campbell would say, they followed their bliss,

Niko Kapoutsos 1:16:34
Right! Don't say bliss. I like that, yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:16:36
What when George Lucas, when George Lucas leaves this planet, star wars will be remembered for centuries to come, of course,

Niko Kapoutsos 1:16:45
Of course,

Alex Ferrari 1:16:46
But centuries to come.

Niko Kapoutsos 1:16:47
That's not that, that that's how you put into perspective. How many, how many people are focusing on instant gratification, reward success. That's not really the soul's purpose. It's not about it's not about doing for what you receive the same way we love, we love with conditions. We don't love unconditionally as we are essence. So the more you you remember your essence. It's not just a matter of remembering it, like I said earlier, speaking your truth, but acting as it love unconditionally, offer the world whatever you're meant to offer the world unconditionally, ask for nothing in return. That's being in alignment with your essence. And that's when those who are meant to align with you appear on your journey. And there's more purpose involved. That's That's why we're here. But not everybody sees that. When people say, Oh, I can't stand my life. I want to commit suicide. I want to leave. I'm like, Whoa, your identity has controlled you too much. We all have a purpose. Is finding the purpose, and again, you can't find the purpose through the identity is lens,

Alex Ferrari 1:17:59
All right. So then I want to ask you this question, because I know a lot of people listening right now are going through this. Somebody right now listening is going through a tremendous amount of pain. I don't know what type of pain it is, but it could be emotional pain, it could be physical pain, it could be an illness. It could be an ailment, something. Some are going through psychological pain. Some of them going through trauma, or have gone through trauma, and they're just won't let go of it. What advice do you have for someone who is, let's use physical pain, for example, someone who's in a tremendous amount of physical pain, daily pain, and has been going on for years, and they really just don't know what else to do, because that's you know, everything we're talking about is very philosophical, very beautiful. But every day, when you wake up and you're in absolute pain, you it's hard for me to wrap my head around going, my identity feels this pain. I do not feel this pain. This is the this is part of the soul contract. All that goes out the window when you're like son of a, you know, discards man. What advice do you have for them?

Niko Kapoutsos 1:19:03
Okay, now, notice this, right? If I'm in pain, I'm focusing on the pain,

Alex Ferrari 1:19:08
Right!

Niko Kapoutsos 1:19:09
I'm always focusing on the pain,

Alex Ferrari 1:19:11
Right!

Niko Kapoutsos 1:19:11
Right? It's also an energetic pain. It's the physical body, it's the physical reality, it's energetic. Okay,

Alex Ferrari 1:19:17
Yes,

Niko Kapoutsos 1:19:17
We're not healers, nor doctors healers, but you can definitely heal your own body through your essence, through that different energetic, vibrational frequency. The more you ascend, the more you elevate, the more you connect, the more you don't you're not connected to the body only you're expanded. You feel the energy coming through you could heal your ailments. Okay? It's like the bottom feeding fish. Only stay at the bottom of the sea, of this floor. Don't stay at the bottom of the sea. Don't let it pull you down. Notice if you're hurting or you're psychologically depressed, whatever, you remain with it for a long time, and you sink. You stay down. And you stay in this lower energetic frequency. We all have the same ability to elevate but we don't. Instead, we give excuses, we allow to define us. We become the pain. Everything is painful. You're adding to it. You're manifesting more pain without realizing it. You don't need to do anything, but just remember you're not the body. You're the energetic force behind it that carries a different energetic frequency. You could stop focusing on the pain, start manifesting, bringing in your own light, your own energy. It starts event, eventually dissolving. It's that easy

Alex Ferrari 1:20:40
When you said that, it's an analogy I use quite often, which is, is an analogy of the ocean where we were born. We're born closer to the surface.

Niko Kapoutsos 1:20:50
Yes,

Alex Ferrari 1:20:50
Because we're we just came from above the surface, we're closer to the surface. Then all of a sudden, our caretakers, our religions, our communities, our countries, our everything starts throwing stuff on you, and you start to sink and sink, yes, and it gets denser and denser and denser as you get to the to the floor. And then most of us live, throughout our lives, on the floor of the ocean, lugging all of this around. But then when you start to meditate. When you start to become in silence, when you start to open yourself up, you start to release some of those things, and you start to blow up a little bit, and you start to load up with it. When we talk about our avatars, our masters are the Ascended Masters, these kind of people who walk the earth, they were able to let go of all of that right all the way to the top, pick their head out of the water while they're still, while they're still here on the ocean. But they can pick their head out of the water and go, Oh, because as you, as you walk through, I don't know if you, I'm sure you have, you live on an island, if you walk in the sea, or if you walk in water, it's very dense, it's very hot, yes, but the lighter you get, and the higher you get up out of the water, it's so much easier,

Niko Kapoutsos 1:20:50
Yes.

Alex Ferrari 1:20:50
And then you actually so the truth, you're like, oh, wait a minute, we're not supposed to be we're not from the ocean. We're just visiting,

Niko Kapoutsos 1:20:50
Right!

Alex Ferrari 1:20:50
We're actually above the ocean in the air. Does that all make sense to you?

Niko Kapoutsos 1:20:50
Yeah, 100% that's why we don't recognize the most powerful tool we have that we fear and take for granted, and that's trans mediumship, because you are at that level of the surface in trance, and that's what remembrance is pouring in. So when you come back, when you're when you shift your focus back to the reality you are at the bottom of the sea. But since you've already been to the surface while you're living, you realize this is temporary, and you could always float back up whenever you feel like it. And the more you do that continuously, the more you realize you're not really touching the bottom the way you used to, because your perception, your perception has changed. And then and you are able to consciously float back to the top without going into transferring with your training ground, to realize everything's an illusion. No relationship should affect you the way it does, because, again, it's intentional. No worries of finances, no worries about other people's baggage or the illnesses that's all the identity, grabbing on to attaching to it, to give purpose to the identity. That's the bottom of the sea,

Alex Ferrari 1:20:50
That's and the identity is another word for the ego. Essentially,

Niko Kapoutsos 1:20:50
Ego, egos, it goes another word for the control. Absolutely.

Alex Ferrari 1:20:50
Yeah.

Niko Kapoutsos 1:20:50
Ego control. Identity. 100% 100%

Alex Ferrari 1:20:50
So I'm going to ask you the most important question I've asked you in this entire conversation.

Niko Kapoutsos 1:20:50
Oh, geez, okay.

Alex Ferrari 1:20:50
Can you see Uncle Bob? Is Uncle Bob with me?

Niko Kapoutsos 1:20:50
You know what? We can do? A reading we could do.

Alex Ferrari 1:20:50
It's all good. I don't need an uncle Bob. I don't have an uncle Bob, but I always just use Uncle Bob and yeah, and Jane and Uncle Bob. That's so amazing. Nico, where can people find out about more about you and the amazing work you're doing in the world?

Niko Kapoutsos 1:20:50
Oh, just, we're gonna keep it simple. nicothemedium.com N, I, K, O, the medium.com everything is on that. Instead of giving the list, they could just go on that. And, you know, whoever's meant to resonate will, whoever's meant to find what they're meant to find on the website, they will.

Alex Ferrari 1:20:50
And you have books and other things like that out there.

Niko Kapoutsos 1:20:50
Yeah, I have book. I've already published three books. I'm on the fourth one. There's an online academy I've created. It took two years in the making. There's courses that I offer live through zoom. It just there's a whole bunch of stuff, again, a far cry from New York contract. Look at that like what it's. Change. One of my good friends is like, I can't believe you threw all that away to chase this. This illusionary dreamer girl threw that away, huh? He's like, Oh, you're doing great. Just derailed your whole life. But I'm like, that's your perception,

Alex Ferrari 1:20:50
Yeah. And they said the same thing to Vincent. They said the same thing to Vincent, the same to Charles, the same, same. The same thing to Spielberg. They said, say,

Niko Kapoutsos 1:20:50
Right, exactly.

Alex Ferrari 1:20:50
I mean, everybody who follows their bliss, the people around them, like you're insane. You can't, you can't sell books over the internet.

Niko Kapoutsos 1:20:50
Yeah, yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:20:50
You know, you know all these kind of things. You know that land a rocket,

Niko Kapoutsos 1:21:36
Exactly, go to the moon the, I guess the most humbling part of this journey is that even, even that I don't really pitch myself, I don't sell myself, you know, I don't, I don't speak about this stuff, because that by doing that, I'm kind of resorting back to the identity. You know, it's like it's essence to essence. My Essence is purpose is to bring this articulation, this vocabulary, back into the world at this time was meant for them to hear it. Who it lands with is not my concern. You see, that's, that's the beauty. That's why it's humbling. I just keep saying it and offering it and wherever it's going to land, it's meant to happen. Oh, and that's, that's what's great about it,

Alex Ferrari 1:26:32
And that's what we do with this.

Niko Kapoutsos 1:26:34
Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:26:35
We put it out there, and it finds people in ways that I can't even understand. I just do this work and put it out there, and I can't control it. I really can't control who sees it. When did they see it? At what time in their lives they see this conversation? This conversation will resonate for many, many years to come, and it will find the people that need to find it when they find it and when they're ready for it. When I read, when I read Autobiography of the yogi in my 20s,

Niko Kapoutsos 1:26:58
Yeah, I looked,

Alex Ferrari 1:27:00
I looked at and I said, What the hell is this? Way too weird. This is way too wacky. We're talking about biolocation and meditation like it was so far. I wasn't ready,

Niko Kapoutsos 1:27:12
yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:27:12
Then in my 30s, I picked it up again. Actually, in my 40s, in my early 40s, I picked it up again. And I was like, Oh, yeah. Then it just changed me, right? Then I was ready for it. So same thing. So sometimes things do hit us. They plant seeds.

Niko Kapoutsos 1:27:32
That's when

Alex Ferrari 1:27:32
We're not ready. We're not ready for it. We're not ready for it. So we plant seeds, and those seeds can come up in a year or in 50 years,

Niko Kapoutsos 1:27:41
Right!

Alex Ferrari 1:27:41
It really, it really is

Niko Kapoutsos 1:27:43
Exactly right. That's why you're living your purpose, and that's beautiful. That's all we can do.

Alex Ferrari 1:27:50
Niko man, it has been such a pleasure and honor speaking to you in this conversation. I can, I just, I just know what this is going to do to people out there. I can't wait to get this out into the world, my friend, you are a beautiful, beautiful soul, my friend, a brave and beautiful soul for doing what you're doing in the world. So I appreciate you and everything you're doing to awaken this planet, my friend. So thank you.

Niko Kapoutsos 1:28:11
As are you, and thank you God has been mine. It truly has been.