Divine Encounters Episode 064 | Near-Death Experience Story
Dr. Spirit Sunshine Frost was 17 and feeling worthless when, she says, she collapsed in a hotel bathtub and sank downward instead of rising. In this Divine Encounters episode she tells Alex Ferrari how a song from a childhood church program, a luminous guide and two timelines changed her mind about her own worth, and what she says she brought back from what felt like a month beyond the veil.
Key Takeaways
- Sunshine says she collapsed in a bathtub at 17, felt herself sinking downward, and believed in that moment that she deserved it.
- She describes singing a childhood song about Jesus inside herself, then rising “like a balloon” because, in her words, her own mindset was taking her.
- She says she saw her body and felt sadness and shame for how she had judged it, and says she thought, “I don’t want to die this way.”
- She describes a guide she could not see clearly who showed her two timelines, one where she stayed and one where she went back.
- She says she was promised she had a gift to give the world, and chose to return because she wanted a purpose.
- Her message: love yourself, love others, and find a purpose by serving. Learn to love one living thing, and you already have a great purpose.
| Guest | Dr. Spirit Sunshine Frost |
| Episode | Divine Encounters 064 |
| Age at the time | 17 |
| What Sunshine says happened | She collapsed in a hotel bathtub and left her body |
| Where she says she went | First downward through the earth, then up to a reception area, a park and the edge of heaven |
| Who she met | A guide with a bright image around them, who called her Christina |
| The message | You have a gift to give the world; love yourself and serve |
| Time away | About seven or eight minutes on Earth by her estimate; about a month, she says, in heaven |
A Young Woman Who Did Not Love Herself
Alex asks his usual first question, and Sunshine answers with the moment itself. She says she was a young girl who had never really partied. She was in a hotel room, and she decided to take a bath.
Behind that bath is a childhood she describes plainly. She says she was the victim of sexual abuse, that she had no parents who really loved her, and that her mother abandoned her in a bathtub in a hotel room when she was three. She says she did not have self love. It is a heavy backdrop, and she shares it without decoration because it explains what she believed about herself when everything happened.
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Sinking Through the Bathtub
Within a few seconds of getting in the bath, Sunshine says, her nose began bleeding from both nostrils and the blood vessels in her eyes started to break. She collapsed into the tub. She saw her heart pounding. She wanted to scream for somebody, but her face and throat were numb.
Then came the strangest part. She says she began to sink, and it took about three seconds to go from one state to the other. She could hear her heart in her ears and hear herself trying to breathe, and then it was like drowning inside herself.
She says she went down through the water, through the cast iron bathtub (she could feel and even taste the metal without a body), and through the floor of the first-story room. Downward, not upward, as most people describe. She could feel the earth and smell it, a dark, cool feeling. She knew she was separate from her body.
It felt like she was there for a day. She remembers saying to herself, “This is what I deserved.” Because of what she had lived through, she believed that, and she says she felt very separate from everything that felt like God.
A Song From Wednesday Night Church
To find God, she says, she had to go inward. She remembered going as a little girl to a Wednesday night program at church, and a simple song about Jesus. Do you love me? I love you.
So she began to sing it inside herself. If you’re real, do you remember me? She says it is still emotional for her. “Do you remember me?”
As she thought it, she says her mind became like a balloon carrying her upward, back through the sinking, almost shooting up. This is what she finds incredible. “My mindset was taking me either to heaven or to hell,” she says. Her own belief determined where she was going.
For how people describe different directions and destinations in these experiences, our complete guide to near-death experiences is a good place to begin.
Seeing Her Body With Compassion
As she rose, she passed through her body and saw it. She felt sadness and shame at how badly she had treated it. She had judged herself for her looks, she says, and put restrictions on food and said untrue things about herself.
She saw herself there, 17 years old, vulnerable, undressed in a bathtub in a strange place with people who did not care about her. She remembers thinking, “What did I do to my body? Why didn’t I love her?” She also thought, “I don’t want to die this way.”
She believes everybody feels that way once they are out of the body, grateful to have had that vehicle. We do not appreciate our bodies, she says, but they are a gift. In the physical world we can enjoy food and so many things that we cannot enjoy in spirit.
She wanted to stop there for a moment, but she kept going upward, about two stories up.
The Guide and the Two Timelines
She was with a guide. She could not see the guide’s face, only a very bright image around them. She began to cry. Without words, through the mind, the guide told her, “you don’t need to cry. It’s okay.”
She answered that she deserved to be in hell. She says she believed a narrative about herself that she had internalized: that she was not a good kid, not a good person, and had never done anything for anyone else.
The guide said, “let me show you something,” and showed her what she now knows to be timelines. She says she was shown that if she continued on one timeline, she would stay and be gone. She saw that the people around her had left the hotel afterward, and that her grandmother, who dearly loved her and for whom she was the only grandchild, was the one who received the phone call. It was devastating for her family.
Then she was shown another timeline. Every choice she made, she says, opened up another one. At 17 she thought of it as a wishbone, a decision between one road or the other. You can read more about how people describe these alternate paths in the glossary entry on timelines.
A Chosen Life and a Promise
The guide, she says, told her that her life had been chosen with her own oversoul and with her help. It was to be a life of transmutation, which is why it was so difficult. She says she had taken on what she calls a five transmutating path, like five lifetimes of suffering, because she was a guide soul in this life. She did not understand what any of that meant then.
When she was asked whether she wanted to go back, she says she was insistent that she did not, unless she had something to give the world. She felt purposeless, “like a leaf on the breeze floating through life,” unanchored, alone and separate from God. She had tried so hard to get close and never felt connected.
The guide called her Christina, her middle name, not Sunshine. She says he told her, “Christina, I promise you, you will have a gift to give the world.” She was told not to worry. It would come if she trusted and chose to go back.
She also says the experience was not a life review. She already felt condemned because of her religious background and believed she was impure and unworthy. So they did not try to condemn her. They tried to raise her up into her worth and value. For more on that idea, see the glossary entry on the life review.
The Park, the Children and the Levels of Heaven
Behind the guide, Sunshine says, was a beautiful place like a park, something like Central Park, with benches everywhere. She knew the children there were very young ones who had passed in childbirth or early childhood, or who were about to come onto the planet. They were with grandparents and great grandparents. Animals and pets that had crossed over were there too.
To her right she could see reception areas. In the back were what looked like temples with crystal ceilings. She could see the first part very clearly, but the rest seemed to be in a different frequency than her.
As they talked, she says, she moved further into heaven. She felt that it had multiple levels she could not access. She mentions the teaching of three heavens, maybe twelve or thirteen realms in each, perhaps 144 levels in all. Who knows, she says. She simply knew intuitively that there was more.
Choosing to Come Back
She says she made the decision to come back because she felt confident in the promise that she was here to give the world something. She would not be just a name, a faceless child, a person who did not matter. The promise felt real.
She was shown many things, she says, but could not remember the details when she returned. She says she was shown things like the lives she would save as an EMT and later as a surgeon, but she never got to see them clearly. They gave her enough confidence that her life had huge meaning.
She also remembers the feeling of not wanting to live her past again. At 17 she says she had already transmuted sexual abuse, abandonment and being an orphan. She did not want to relive those things to gain the value. So she bargained, in her words: “give me something great, give me something special.” Let it be worthy. Let her have a purpose.
A Month in Heaven and the Sound of Everything
Sunshine says it is fair to say she was in a pit of despair for weeks, and fair to say she was in heaven for what felt like maybe a month, with information being downloaded.
What she remembers most is sound. Heaven had sounds, she says, and “Everything in nature makes this beautiful sound.” She heard singing in the trees and the grass, a beautiful choir or symphony. That singing stayed with her for two years, she says, if she focused. Nobody else could hear it.
She says it is true that there is constant praising and joy. The grass and leaves have a frequency, like the crystal bowls. That, she says, is why we love them. They are the frequencies of heaven.
Waking Up and Telling No One
She woke up in a puddle of blood. She had been bleeding from her nose and had collapsed into the tub. She is very tall, she says, and she believes that is what saved her. She could not lie fully under the water. Her head had fallen against the side of the tub and her legs were out.
She estimates it had been seven or eight minutes. She knows many people would say that is not possible. She says her heart stopped and restarted, with no damage, and she cannot explain it. The blood had already dried in places.
When she tried to tell her friend, the friend said, you must have been really high. Sunshine needed to leave. With wet hair and wet clothes, she says, she threw her clothes on, ran out the door and went home, trying to piece together what had happened.
She did talk to some people in her church, and the answers hurt. They told her it was witchcraft, or that she was using drugs, or that Satan had given her a delusion. They could not accept an experience that was profoundly beautiful. So she says it became a spiritual solo quest for a long time, and she did not share it.
How Sunshine Lives Now
Sunshine says the first thing that makes a fulfilled life is self love. “if you can’t find a way to love yourself, then the love other people give you will never be enough.” If you seek all validation in others, they can take it away.
The second is finding love in the world, whether with friends, a pet or helping others. She takes care of 30 orphans, she says, and she loves them. There is always an exchange of love.
The third is purpose. Without it, she says, it is easy to get discouraged and stuck. So serve. “learn to love one single living thing,” she says, and if you have done that, you already have a great purpose.
Questions to Sit With
- Sunshine says her own mindset was taking her either to heaven or to hell. What belief about yourself is steering you right now?
- She felt compassion for the body she had criticized. What would you say to your own body if you saw it from the outside?
- She says to learn to love one living thing. Which one is yours today?
Write down one unkind thing you say to yourself regularly, then write what you would say to a 17-year-old who said it. Read the second one out loud once.
Spiritual Takeaways
- Sunshine says her mindset determined where she went, and that self-condemnation was something she carried, not something she was given.
- She describes a guide who did not condemn her, but raised her up into her worth.
- She says our choices open different timelines.
- She says everything in heaven makes a beautiful sound.
- Her message is simple: love yourself, love others, and find a purpose by serving.
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Frequently Asked Questions
Who is Dr. Spirit Sunshine Frost?
Dr. Spirit Sunshine Frost is a near-death experiencer who tells host Alex Ferrari about an experience she says happened at 17 in a hotel bathtub. She says she now takes care of 30 orphans.
What happened to Sunshine at 17?
She says she collapsed in a bathtub, felt herself sinking, and then left her body. She says she woke up about seven or eight minutes later in a puddle of blood.
Why did she sink instead of rise?
She says she believed she deserved it because of her abuse and abandonment. She says her own mindset was determining where she was going, and that when she began singing a childhood song inside herself, she started to rise.
What song did she sing?
She describes a song from a Wednesday night church program about Jesus. She says she sang inside herself, asking if he was real and whether he remembered her.
What did the guide show her?
She says the guide showed her two timelines, one where she stayed and what it would mean for her family, and one where she went back and lived out her path.
What was she told about her life?
She says she was told her life had been chosen with her own oversoul, that it would be difficult and a life of transmutation, and that she would have a gift to give the world.
Did she have a life review?
She says it was not a life review. She says she already felt so condemned that they did not try to condemn her. They tried to raise her up into her worth.
What did heaven sound like to her?
She says everything in nature there makes a beautiful sound, like a choir or symphony, and that the singing stayed with her for two years if she focused.
How did her church respond?
She says some people in her church told her it was witchcraft or a delusion. She says it then became a solo spiritual quest for a long time.
Is a near-death experience proof of an afterlife?
Next Level Soul shares near-death experiences as lived experiences told in the person’s own words. Researchers continue to study and debate what they mean. Nothing here is medical advice or a medical claim.
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Alex Ferrari 0:00
Tell me what your life was like before you died.
Dr. Spirit Sunshine Frost 0:08
I was a young girl that had never really partied, and I went to the bathroom, and I did what I thought was going to be a simple little setup, little things for each of us, and I decided I was going to take a bath, and within just a few seconds, my nose exploded. I was bleeding from both nostrils. My eyes this my eyes started the blood vessels in my eyes started to break. I collapsed into the bathtub. I don't remember. I just saw my heart pounding. I wanted to scream for somebody, but I was totally numb. My face was numb, my throat was numb, and immediately I just felt myself sinking, and I was already in the bath. At this point, it took me about three seconds from one to the other, and I began to sink through the actual which was the most unusual feeling, because I was totally in fear, panicking. I could hear my heart pounding in my ears. I could hear myself trying to breathe, but then in one moment, it was just like drowning inside myself. And then I was thinking through the water, through the cast iron bathtub. I could feel the metal, I could taste the metal somehow, even without my body. And I was going through the floor of the first the first story hotel room, moving through it downward, not upward, as most people experience. I was thinking downward, and I could feel the earth. I could smell it. I could feel this dark, cool feeling, but yet I knew I was very separate from my body, and I instantly began to it feels like I was there for a day, and I remember just saying, This is what I deserved, because I had been the victim of sexual abuse. I was had no parents that really loved me. My mother abandoned me in a bathtub when I was three, in a hotel room. I really didn't have self love, so I, in that moment, believed, and my mindset, believed I deserved that, and so in that few moments, I was very separate from everything that felt like God, and I had to go inward to find that place. And I remember I went to awanas When I was little girl, and it was like a little Wednesday night program at church, and there was this little song about Jesus. And, you know, do you love me? I love you. And I started to kind of sing inside myself, you know, if you're real, do you remember me kind of singing that song, and it's still emotional, even now, you know, just saying, Do you remember me? And as I began to think it, my mind was like a balloon carrying me upward, back through the sinking I was just almost shooting up, as if my own mindset was determining where I was going to go. It is the most incredible thing. My mindset was taking me either to heaven or to hell, my own belief, and I began to rise up.
And then I went through my body, and I saw my body, and I felt such a sadness and such a shame at how badly I had treated my body and how the things I had said about her, and how much I had judged her for her physical looks and how I had put all of these restrictions on food and said these things about myself that weren't true, and I saw her there, 17 years old, vulnerable, undressed in this bathtub, in a strange place with people that didn't care about her, and I thought, I don't want to die this way. What did I do to my body? Why didn't I love her? She's so precious. And I think everybody feels that way when we're out of body, how grateful we are to have had that vehicle. You know, like we don't appreciate our bodies, there's such a gift to us, really, in the physical world, we can't experience the joys of food or or so many other things that we can't enjoy in the Spirit. So I looked at my body, and I kind of wanted to stop there for a moment, but I kept going upward, and it was like two stories up. I was with a guide, and the guide, I could not see the face of but I could see a very bright image around the guide. And I started to cry. And my guide said to me, without talking, just through the mind, you don't need to cry. It's okay. And I said, I deserve to be in hell. And I was just so upset, like, why am I here? I don't deserve to be here. I should go to hell. I'm not a good kid. I'm not a good person. I haven't been a good person. I've I never did anything for anyone else. You know. I really believe these this narrative, this projection, internalized, of myself and my being. And this guy just said, let me show you something. And they showed me what I know now know to be timelines. And they said, sunshine, if you continue in this timeline, this is what will happen. And they showed me the man. He was probably 23 and I was 17, and the other guy was like 26 and my girlfriend was 17 2 17 year old girls in a hotel room with a 25 and 26 year old man, men being given drugs, and they showed me that even after they found my body, they didn't call 911, they left the hotel and called the hotel to find me later, and I had already passed for many hours, there was totally no ability to resuscitate. And my grandmother, who dearly loved me, was the one that. Got the phone call that I had passed, and I was her only grandchild, and it was devastating for my family. And they showed me all the people which I couldn't really see at that time, but they gave me this feeling I couldn't remember because they wouldn't let me remember who I was going to meet in this life and the things I was supposed to do. But they showed me the timeline of dying in that moment, and what that would have meant for me. And then he showed me another timeline. Was a him, and he said to me, without talking, of course, just telepathically. He showed me, it was as if I had choices, and every choice I made opened up another timeline, which I didn't know it then it just felt like a wishbone. Is what I called it when I was 17. Oh, I have a wishbone. It's a decision to make one road or the other. And they showed me that he told me that my my life had been chosen for me with my own oversoul, with my help, and that my life was to be a life of transmutation, and that that is why it was so difficult, and that I had taken on a five, five transmutating life path, which is like five lifetimes worth of suffering that I had chose that because I was a guide soul in this life, and I didn't know any of that meant at the time, but he said, Do you want to go back? And I still was very insistent that I did not want to go back if I didn't have something to give to the world, because I felt very purposeless, and then my life was meaningless. Even though I had felt compassion for my body, I had felt compassion for my grandmother, I just felt as if I served no purpose, and I really didn't want to go back here again without a purpose, just like a leaf on the breeze floating through life, feeling unanchored, ungrounded, feeling alone and separate from God and from everything, because I tried so much to get close, but I never felt connected. So I was told that not to worry. And they called me Christina, which is my middle name. He did not call me sunshine on the side, he said, Christina, I promise you, you will have a gift to give the world if you trust me and you choose to go back and behind him, there was this beautiful place. It was so beautiful. It was like a beautiful park, if you can imagine, you know, Central Park, and there were benches everywhere, and there were children just and I knew all the children that had passed in childbirth or in young children, these were not older. These were all very young children that had either just came off of planet, or were going to transpire onto planet. And they were with the Grands and great grands, and they were in this park. And there were animals and things there. It was just beautiful. Pets that had crossed over were there. I could see all of this from where I was at. I could see reception areas to my right. There was like a some temples. It looked like in the back with crystal ceilings. It was quite beautiful. But I could only see the first part. I could see very clearly, but the rest of it, it's as if it was in a different frequency than me. And I really I couldn't make it out from where I was at. As we were talking, I had moved further into what you call heaven, I guess, which is just seems like it's only maybe two realms above us, but there's multiple levels of everything. So like three have like when they teach three heavens, I agree with that, maybe 12 or 13 realms in each heaven, and then 12 in each of those, maybe 144 levels. Who knows? But I knew that there was multiple levels to this that I couldn't access or see, just knowledge intuitively, not knowing this, and I decided to come back. I made the decision because I felt really confident in that promise that there was something that I was here to give the world, but there was something there was some purpose for me, and I wasn't just a name, a faceless child, a person that didn't matter. I felt they promised me, and the promise felt so real that there was something important I was going to do in the world that would make a difference, that if I chose this timeline, I would be cheating, like I said, they I don't remember, but I know they did show me many things, but when I came back, I couldn't remember the details of like me meeting you right now, or, you know, me doing the things, saving, the lives I saved as an EMT or as a surge, like, like those things I never really got to see, but they gave me enough confidence that my life had A huge meaning for me to choose to come back. It wasn't a life review. It wasn't a life review in the fact of, this is your life. This is what you did. I knew already that I felt so condemned because of my religious background. I didn't need the review. I already believed I deserved to go to hell. I believed I was totally impure, totally unsaved, unworthy. I was so convinced of my unworthiness and that I was that I didn't have a value to God. How could he love me? So I already had so much self condemnation that they didn't even try to condemn me. Actually, they were trying to raise me up into my worth and value and say no, and they showed me two timelines which I didn't really look back on my life, which is strange, I never looked back on my life. And the first nde, no, the light, yes, I did get rose up in the light. My guide was there because I wouldn't. I didn't go through any whoosh. I went from the bottom up through. Saw my body. Then there was an immediate. A guide with me, and then the guide and I went together to this reception area. And in that reception area, as I said, he showed me two timelines, one where I would pass then, and it would cause a great deal of suffering, and I would have negated this life path, and essentially, I would have had to do it over. Is what I think I was being told. That. I don't remember those words, but I remember the feeling of, I don't want to do this again. I don't want to do all of this again, realizing that at 17 I'd already transmuted sexual abuse, abandonment, being an orphan, I had already transmuted so much I didn't want to relive those things to gain the value. So I was like, no, no, no, no. Okay, let's let's try. But if you're gonna send me back, give me something great, give me something special, that'll just be worthy. So I have a purpose, and that's what I do. Remember about that. So to say that I was in that pit of despair for weeks is fair, and to say that I was in heaven for at least what felt like maybe a month is fair, that this whole information was downloaded. I mean, all of the I remember heaven having sounds, everything made a beautiful noise. And when I read, there's some books I've read my time in heaven. He talks about the grass having a sound, and the trees, I could hear singing that lasted. That singing stayed with me for two years after this experience, I could hear if I focused, almost like hard to explain a beautiful choir, a symphony, but it's so low and no one else could hear it. I'm like, Could you hear that? No, can you hear that? No one else could hear it but me. I had tuned into that frequency. When they say, there's just singing and constant praising and joy, it's true. And everything there makes such a beautiful sound, the grass, the leaves, there's a frequency of vibrational sound like the crystal bowls. That's why we love them, because they are absolutely the frequencies of heaven. Everything in nature makes this beautiful sound, and it all sounds perfect. I woke up, it was a puddle of blood. I had been bleeding out of my nose, and I had just collapsed into the tub and the water, I'm very tall, actually, that's what saved my life. I couldn't lie down completely under the water. When I had I kind of had had my head fell against the side of the tub, and I had one leg like I was like this, with my legs out of the tub, and I could not skip down any further. But I woke up and it had been, I would say probably seven or eight minutes. I know a lot of people would say that's not possible, but my heart did stop. My heart did restart. There was no damage. I can't explain it. I know it was a bit of time the blood here had already begun. It already dried. Here. It was just a puddle in the water. Everything was, it was quite horrific, really, to wake up with that and to be like and then I went to tell my girlfriend what happened, and she goes, Man, you must have been really high, you know. I just I gotta go. And they're like, No, you need to stay. I said, No, I've got to go. And I remember just wet hair, wet clothes, didn't even use a towel, threw my clothes on. I ran out the door, went back home, and just really tried to piece together what had happened. And I did talk to some people in the church, and they again, same exact limited mindset. This is witchcraft. You were using drugs Satan gave you a delusion, you know, something to that effect. And could not accept that I'd had this experience so profoundly beautiful, and that I had seen, not necessarily God, but I saw the place of the face of and my personal experience with source. And I guess at that time, it was my personal so it became really a spiritual solo quest for a long time. And I didn't really share this experience, but it changed me a lot. Living a fulfilled life is first having self love, like I said that first one was Major. If you don't, if you can't find a way to love yourself, then the love other people give you will never be enough. If you seek all validation in others, they can take that away. So loving yourself, no matter what it is you love about yourself. Number two, surround it's all love, calling for love. So finding love within the world, whether it's with a group of friends, whether it's with your pet, whether it's just helping others, it could be orphans. You know, I have 30 orphans I take care of. I love them. And there's always this exchange frequency of just love. So, love yourself, love others, and find a purpose in life, because without purpose, it's very easy to get discouraged and bogged down and stuck in ourselves to serve God and to serve each other, just to serve to just be of service. So learn to love one single living thing, and if you've done that, you already have a great purpose.
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