Astrology & Feminine Energy in the Stars with Molly McCord

Alex Ferrari 0:00
What is the most exciting thing that's happening right now in regards to energies that you're seeing in the world?

Molly McCord 0:05
I feel that it's definitely a part of the divine feminine energies within all of us that are rising up to be heard. Where you trust what you're feeling, more you trust your intuition, more able to integrate that and work with that from a from a more grounded, clear place. I feel that we are getting more energetically, not only energetically sensitive, but energetically intelligent, and this divine feminine rising energy is actually reconnecting all of us to the deeper trust and the deeper intuitive guidance that we each have access to.

Alex Ferrari 0:57
Now, before we jump into this episode, if this conversation resonates with you. Please like, subscribe and share this with whoever you feel that needs to hear it. Your support helps us keep bringing this information out into the world and helps us awaken this planet. Thank you. I like to welcome to the show Molly McCord. How you doing Molly?

Molly McCord 1:19
Hi, Alex, thank you for having me. I'm delighted to be here. I love the show.

Alex Ferrari 1:23
Thank you so much for being here. I appreciate it. I'm looking forward to our conversation about astrology and the stars and and I'm always fascinated to talk to astrologers from all walks of life, because we've had Vedic astrologers. We've had, I guess, Western, Western astrology and Chinese astrology. But the thing I always find fascinating is they all kind of say the same thing. It's just a different system to get to the same. It's a different math equation to get to the exact same, because the stars are the stars.

Molly McCord 1:53
And all systems are valid, and all systems will interplay and interact together in surprising ways. And so it's actually more of an interesting deep dive to go into the different types of astrology and see what they say, because I feel like it reveals more of who you came here to be. It opens up more of your multi dimensionality, more of your gifts, more of your energy. So yes, I love hearing about all different kinds of astrology

Alex Ferrari 2:17
too. So what is the most what is the most exciting thing that's happening right now in regards to energies that you're seeing in the world,

Molly McCord 2:25
how much we are accelerating, how much is taking off, how much we are now really having to walk the talk and to know that our mastery is here, that our healing is paying off, and that this is how We are co creating the next version of this world. And so the astrology is going to keep speeding up, especially into the second half of this decade, and it's going to also gift people with many more opportunities, dreams, manifestations, because of the work they've done up to this point. So we will be increasing in our energies we were, we're going to be feeling that more and more. And the astrology becomes more serious, if you will, and also a bit more exciting

Alex Ferrari 3:09
in your own in your own awakening journey. How is astrology opened up doors in your own experience?

Molly McCord 3:17
It's been amazing. It's it's been completely unexpected. I started my interest in astrology when I was younger, probably 1011, 12, library books, exploring things, trying to figure out the terminology, and it evolved into such a big passion throughout my adolescence, teens, 20s, and I never thought it was something I would do professionally that actually really terrified me to give people advice or to tell them about who they are. But there's these cosmic codes that we're all connected to that are also very much a part of our consciousness, our ability to have a full and amazing life. And astrology is such a beautiful guide map that I know you've heard that before from other astrologers, but once you sync up with your chart and you understand more of your own guidance, your own gifts, your own healing, your own challenges, it just opens up this world of experiences that's uniquely you and uniquely guided for you. And I know that because I've lived it, and I've had times in my life that have been so challenging and difficult, and astrology would validate that. And there's some kind of really sweet comfort in knowing that even if it's hard and the challenges are happening, it's right on time. It's right on time. And I have felt that sense of, okay, I'm right where I need to be. I can keep trusting. I can keep going, keep showing up, knowing that it's going to change, but it provides you with this deeper richness about your own journey.

Alex Ferrari 4:49
Why is there a code in the stars that tell you this little insignificant thing on a planet in the. Grand scheme of the universe. We are not even a grain of dust. I mean, seriously, we're so small and insignificant. And there's this, apparently, this system out there that you can read, and it's scientifically like, you can actually, like, replicate the same thing, no matter what system you use, it's all there. Why is that out there at all? Like, it doesn't make sense to me. Like, what was that? Why is that gift been given to us? And if it is just for us, how about in another universe, somewhere, right, where there might be another reality, right? The stars are a bit different.

Molly McCord 5:35
They're going to be a different perspective, absolutely.

Alex Ferrari 5:38
So do they have? Like, starts making your head hurt.

Molly McCord 5:42
I love it well. I mean, throughout, throughout civilizations on the planet, many ancient cultures have always looked up. They've looked up to understand they would create star towers. They would track eclipses and movements. It really was something that was valuable with agriculture and growing cycles. So there's been this ongoing collective knowledge base that's been demonstrated across centuries. And now modern astrologers, we're so lucky because we can just reference something in black and white, you know, reference what has been collected across the decades and centuries that has demonstrated to be true, and astrology wouldn't still be around if it wasn't valid and helpful for what we're going through now. So I feel that these are the codes that really help our consciousness understand the cycles we're in, the timing, the themes, and that our consciousness is now expanding so that we're syncing up with more of these codes, almost like they've been waiting for us to like, get with the program and be like, This is what is important now. This is the cycle on the planet. This is what you personally are moving through. So these codes are waiting for us, and I feel that they are also directly linked to us, energetically, linked to our DNA, linked to memories that we don't even recall consciously from other realms, other dimensions. There's a lot more that we are composed of, and astrology takes us into that even more and helps us, I think, remember more of who we came here to be. Remember more of our potentials, our power, our gifts. But we have to get out of the programming, especially of modern culture, which is, you know, we grow up and we go through school and we maybe have a job and then go out into the world and become a contributing member of society, and that is our current pathway for living what we would call a successful life. But when you are understanding your own astrology and your own codes, it will bust you out of that programming, it will burst you wide open into more of your unique path. And that's something I've seen in myself and in clients, that it's like, well, you know, you're not meant to or you don't have to go do the job thing next, maybe you want to go over here or do this, or your path is going to be different than your friends, so it really helps us understand more of our authenticity, and I feel that it's a beautiful gift for our own individuation process.

Alex Ferrari 8:10
Now, what exactly drew you to this? Because I'm assuming, when you were a little girl, you didn't go, You know what I'm going to do when I grow up? I'm going to be an astrologer. No, I'm assuming there's a few other steps to get here. But what drew you to this?

Molly McCord 8:27
I always found it mentally stimulating and interesting. I always thought it was a new puzzle to solve. But at what age did you start that? I started probably around 16. Okay, so it started young. Started young. That's actually when I got my first professional astrology reading, and it was like, what does all this mean? What is this language? What how do you understand all this? And then, of course, I was curious to learn more. And it progressed where I was doing more personal sessions for friends or helping them understand their chart. And then I started studying with more mentors, and one on one, asking the questions, asking, What does this mean? What about this? Just wanting to grow in my knowledge base, but not knowing it would actually be used or something. But I did have a session sometime in my I think, was, I want to say, early 30s, where my mentor said, Well, you could be an astrologer. And she was basically inviting me into, you know, this would be a possibility for me, that it was in my chart, it was in my astrology chart, that I could be an astrologer, and that absolutely terrified me, because, am I qualified? Because what I've learned through the years is you have to have many skills in dealing with people's big life events, in their big decisions. People come to a session with a desire to really get guidance. What do I do next? How do I handle this? And these are real world problems. There's I've dealt with people facing very intense legal issues, dealing with bankruptcy potentials, dealing with breakups, and all these things that are a big deal. So you come to a. Session, not only understanding these weird symbols and glyphs on the page, but you have to have the counseling skills. You have to have the discernment of I can help you with this, or I can't help you with this, I would really recommend you go talk to a health professional, a lawyer. There's a limit, there's a limit, and you have to, you have to know your lane and know when to step back and have people you know, show them that next direction, but you also want to be there to hold their hand and to show them, okay, this cycle, it's going to last for a year, and then it's going to clear out. You can help them understand, you know, this is the best that can come from this. This is what you're learning. This is what you're developing. This can help you focus on what matters right now. Because usually people come to a session when they're going through a hard time, sure, or their birthday or the beginning of the year, so there's often, like, a cycle of when people want to have a conversation.

Alex Ferrari 10:55
Like, I always joke is, like, no one looks for Jesus when they're on the yacht right in the Amalfi Coast. Like, I'm good. I don't need to find Jesus right now. I don't want to just go bankrupt. They just got a divorce. Jesus. Now you look for me.

Molly McCord 11:10
Now you look for me exactly. And it's part of our, you know, it's part of our survival needs. Of like, how do I get through this? What's coming up? Is this gonna happen? I also find that it's best to help people see things, not in their own worst case scenario, which can be something that comes up, but to open it up energetically and go into, well, this is what could present itself, or this is what you are moving towards, or have you considered this? So there can be some a lot of richness in the conversation, if people are are open to it, and I feel that with astrology now more than ever, people are curious. Oh god, yeah. And it's also something that is self validating. I could say all the things to you. I could give you this information, but only you know, right? Only Alex knows. Only Molly knows your journey, your inner world. So there can be a beautiful self validating process, and you can be like that makes sense. Yes, that is accurate for me.

Alex Ferrari 12:09
Did you have a career prior to this?

Molly McCord 12:10
I sure did.

Alex Ferrari 12:11
What did you do?

Molly McCord 12:12
So I did a lot of things. I actually went to college. I have a master's degree in international diplomacy. Wow. So yeah, I did a lot too. I worked in various parts of government. I also did a lot in sales and marketing, and so I always had that experience of, well, I was going to be going down a particular track, working for maybe a bigger company, or working for myself. But astrology opened me up to being an entrepreneur, helping other people with this path. And then I realized, well, everything I was learning in those other careers have all come together. Yeah? I know the feeling, because international relations and diplomacy, it's a great thing.

Alex Ferrari 12:58
It's a prerequisite to be an astrologer, to have that masters,

Molly McCord 13:02
And to be talking with people all over the world, you know, you've got to have things that you're understanding from a bigger picture, and understanding diversity and differences right now.

Alex Ferrari 13:11
And, yeah, it's interesting that you bring up the these other needs that an astrologer might need to have. And I think this goes also for psychics and for channelers who have sessions with with clients, is that they're not just the facilitator of the the form that they're using with astrology, psychic medium, something like that, but they have to be almost a counselor, absolutely and also very empathetic, Yeah, and also intelligent on what they can and should not say, because if this person's on the brink and you go, Oh, you got two years left of crap coming, and they're already at their low Oh, like that would be that might break them. Oh, absolutely. So there's a huge responsibility that that people in your profession have,

Molly McCord 14:01
And you are, you are many things, and you're a different thing to maybe each person, you're their healer, their counselor, their friend. Maybe you've got to be their dad and their mom. Maybe you're the one who assists them with next steps. You know, there's a lot involved, as you said, and you do have to be able to catch on to where they're at, because some people can be very fragile or frail and vulnerable, and they need empowerment. They don't need more stress, but you have a responsibility to let them know, you know, what's on the table. And I remember, I've had sessions with some people who didn't want to talk about the hardest things that were going on, and I had to acknowledge it. I had to say, you know, there's a lot here in your chart that shows tension in your marriage, in your primary relationship. And you know, I need to let you know that that continues for another year or so, and they can be completely shut down. I don't I don't want to talk about that. I don't want to look at that, and you can tell that they're at that breaking point. And so I guess all I can. Do then is just invite and say, Well, I hope that you know if you're ever ready, or if you want to talk about that more. You know we can, but also know that this is something that is going to benefit you at some point. So maybe there's another professional or someone to go to

Alex Ferrari 15:17
In your practice you know there's a lot that has to be done in your life's journey, in your hero's journey. We were talking about hero's journeys earlier and in a lot of times, when those challenges come up in our lives, we don't want to do it, we don't want to talk about it. We don't want to even acknowledge it. Or if we need a healing, a deep like scarring that happened to us when we were a child, or someone really hurt us, or some event, and we just continuously put it down. I like to say it's kind of like taking a beach ball and putting it down in the ocean, right, or in a pool, right? Could hold it down for a while, but eventually you get tired of what happens. Boom, right? And that's exactly what happens. But so when you run into that, how do you how do you help them? Because it must be frustrating to you, because you're seeing it from outside their perspective, but from inside, like I just I'm too much. It's too painful, it's too raw. I don't want to deal with it.

Molly McCord 16:12
And I'm a human, so I get it, and I totally get where they're at, or why it seems too big or wildly inconvenient or not what I thought my life would be or like, it brings up a lot. And so I feel that with astrology, like you can time the transits, and with the bigger life transits, they often will happen three times. So the first time is an initiation, the second time you're really in it, and the third time is meant to be the closure or the ending. So you can provide people with a road map of the timing of the intensity of when it's going to come back around and it's going to hit you right in the face. But it's also being able to let people, of course, you know, use their free will with what they're ready for, but to know that, you know, this is something that is coming around for a reason, and to help them see that it has a bigger function and a bigger purpose, even if right now in the moment, you can't see it, because we never do

Alex Ferrari 17:07
Well, let me ask you, though, so if you, if you're reading somebody and let's say, hey, look, this wave is coming. That way. This wave is coming. Yeah, and they decide not to deal with the wave at this point in their life, right? Say they, I don't want to deal with it. Do? The stars tell you, or the to the charts tell you, like, well, because she didn't choose to deal with the wave now, the waves gonna come back. But how about if I did deal with the wave now? And does that say? Like, yeah. How does that work?

Molly McCord 17:36
Yeah, I find that the actually, what I would say is that the more willing you are to approach it earlier, the more empowered you're going to be in understanding what needs to evolve. Because usually what is happening, especially with the intense transits, like with Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, even, of course, Saturn and Chiron, there is something that has to change, that has to evolve and grow. And the more willing you are to even just open up a little bit to what that is. It will open up your energy, and you'll start receiving the guidance and messages of what that could be. Sometimes the anticipation is worse, like you think, oh, no, this is going to be a huge dilemma, a huge issue. But sometimes it's like, well, no, the more that you're able to work with it earlier, the more you're going to feel stronger in in approaching it and understanding the theme, and it can be stressful, so then you can figure out, well, how do I handle this stress, or what do I do for self care, or what do I need to change in my own attitude, or whatever it might be. So I do think that the more that we can approach it earlier can be better. Not everyone does that, of course, but that's why I love when people are able to track their own transits. And that's something that I do for people, is I have courses and programs where you learn your chart, and you're able to see and understand you know what astrology is happening for you, so that you're ready for that Saturn transit, or if there's a Pluto transit. So I think that's the empowerment that people are looking for with astrology is to know their own chart, to understand when those those big, intense changes are coming, and then to know that, okay, again, it's right on time. There's something perfect in this. There is divine timing here, even though it doesn't match up with my Google calendar. And so what? What am I ready to be open to knowing that I am divine and the universe sees me as powerful. How am I willing to powerfully work with this energy so that I can approach it from a place of I'm ready for this transformation or not, but I'm ready because I know that it's right on time. So what I have found, too Alex, with astrology and with with my practice and what I teach is that you have to have a bigger spiritual foundation. You have to go higher. You have to have something that supports you and your humaneness, that will support you in your your bigger evolution, and whatever that is for you, that's where you'll turn when things are difficult and hard. And so that's something to that. Teach other astrologers is like, well, what is your spiritual foundation? Because, as we talked about, there's times you have to give people really hard feedback or information that they don't want to hear. But if you know you are in your integrity and your truth, that you are supporting them, you're giving them that beneficial heads up, it makes it so much easier, because you understand, I know that I am working with the universe. I am receiving the messages and the important guidance that are meant to benefit this person on their journey, on their soul path.

Alex Ferrari 20:31
And if you're an atheist, this does not help your journey at all. You know atheists and astrologers, I'm assuming, not so many, not so many clients that are atheists, right? I think, yeah, more people who are more a little bit more spiritually enlightened, or a little bit more conscious of their spirituality or of their consciousness period, are more open to astrology and other forms of finding information about your life's path. It does help, like you say, it does help to be a little bit more open and understanding of what karma is, what cycles are. Let me and let me, let's, let's go down the road of cycles for a second, because the universe is cyclical. The entire universe is cyclical. Our reality is completely cyclical. Nothing is permanent. Nothing things seem permanent, but really they're not. Nothing is permanent. The earth will eventually be swallowed up by a giant sun in a billion or two years, whatever it is, you know, there is going to be that. And then also just our cycle of being born, living, going back. And you can see that cycle again in the seasons, in nature, in life, it's constant, and astrology is obviously that for the stars, because the stars are all cyclical. Yes, correct?

Molly McCord 21:50
Yes, absolutely. A number of years ago, I had someone reach out to me for a session who was a pastor, and I got on the phone with him, and I was like, you know, I'm really and it's really interesting that you want to talk to me. You're not, right, I'm not typically the person that you reach out to. And he said, Well, he's like, I've slowly gotten into astrology, and by the way, he had to have the phone call with me when his wife wasn't around. Obviously he couldn't let anyone know, no, but he said, I've been tracking the seven year cycle of my life, and I'm realizing that I always have big challenges and changes every seven years, I'm like, Yes, this is Saturn. This is a Saturn cycle. Every seven years there is either there's some kind of Saturn transit or Saturn event that is meant to mature, you develop, you, strengthen, you. And it will show up as challenges and choices, things you have to look at and work with in the real world. So he and I had a really beautiful conversation about these transits and cycles, and I appreciated his his openness, and of course, nobody was trying to change or convince or sell anybody anything like he had his beliefs. And I felt like we just had this very beautiful understanding of cycles and energies and transits. And it was, it was great, great to meet him.

Alex Ferrari 23:07
That must have been interesting. I wonder if he told his wife,

Molly McCord 23:10
Probably not, because he scheduled the session for when, you know she was gone. And he said that this has been a contentious issue in my marriage, because I've been bringing this up, and I'm like, okay,

Alex Ferrari 23:21
Fascinating, the stories that we tell each other, right, and ourselves, and how strong those beliefs are. Yeah, I always ask astrologers this, but, but you're feeling on the whole like, you know, newspaper every day, if you're a cancer today, don't step on a crack.

Molly McCord 23:39
So those are kind of the gateway drugs into astrology. That's where people first come to it, and that's where they also get turned off, because they're like, how can the whole population be divided into 12, 12, different teams, 12 different groups? Well, obviously it becomes much more specific and individual the more you get into it, but it kind of keeps the conversation alive of people just, you know, having the chat about what is going on for their sun sign or whatever, right now. But, yeah, it just brings people into it. And then the more curious you get. Then you go into your moon sign and your rising sign, and then you get terrified, because it's so accurate. And you start to see things in yourself that you also begin to grow. And I would say too that your your birth chart, is a starting point. It's the starting point of your own consciousness, in your energy, and it evolves. And I've seen this happen so beautifully for people, where they evolve certain hard aspects in their chart, or they really work with something that at first they didn't like and they didn't want to acknowledge in themselves, and so I feel that all of it leads to more self love, self acceptance, an understanding of, yeah, this explains why I have these experiences, why I feel this way, why I am this way.

Alex Ferrari 24:54
Do you I mean, I find it that all of us are just trying to figure this route. ridiculousness out of life constantly. I mean, so we're always drawn to people or systems or things that will give us some sort of warm blanket. This is terrifying. This is rough. You know, this is not an easy journey, no. So that's why people jump on religion, jumped on spirituality. Jump on anything that will make sense for that individual life experience. And astrology is just one of those things that people just like, Okay, now I could hold on to. It's kind of like we're all like at sea, and we have nothing to hold on to. And then when someone goes, Hey, I got something, they go and grab onto and like, Okay, this makes sense for me. You know, until you eventually start, as you get older, at least, you hope, as you evolve, you start taking from all of these little areas and making something that is very unique for yourself. So using astrology, using spiritual path of some sort, martial art, whatever it is, yeah. That makes sense for your path. But do you find that as well? Like we're just trying to figure this.

Molly McCord 26:05
Absolutely and we, we are catching on that there are these systems and the codes there are available to us, and even though, you know, they've been vilified or, you know, pushed away, they hold such wisdom, and I feel that it's actually what brings people a lot of peace, a lot of comfort, a lot of validation, because we're also on our own individual soul growth journeys, and there's things that only we can understand and move through that astrology connects us with. And I find that's exciting. When people get to that point, they just burst open with a sense of Aha, I got it. I'm getting this. I see my own patterns. I see what I was avoiding. I see what I was afraid of, like they open up into themselves. And it's such a beautiful thing to witness. And it's pretty cool that we're at the point now where astrology gifts us with that level of personal wisdom that we can really use.

Alex Ferrari 27:02
I think my first experience with astrology is finding out what my sign was, yeah, and it was the first time that when I heard about it. And obviously I'm into this stuff, and have been for quite some time, closeted for years, since I was a kid, and coming from a Latino family, I mean, psychics, astrology, all that stuff was very it's in our blood, yep, as a culture in general. So it's very open to all of that stuff. But when I found out I'm a cancer, and then it just and I go, let me see what a cancer is, and it lists off, I'm like, yep, yep, yep, that's me, Yep, that's me, that's me. And then I would read the other signs I'm like, no, no, no. I mean, every once in a while, but no, no, no. And it was so accurate on who I was and the different elements, the layers of who I am. Yes, you know that it was really interesting. And it's always funny, too. When I meet another cancer, there is this, this thing that you just feel it's weird as hell. I don't know why it is. Yep, I'll start talking. I have a client, or I'll have a friend back in the day, and we just start talking. We just, like, get together, and then, you know, four months or five months go by, and what are you born? What's your birthday? Oh, that's okay, that makes sense. Yeah, that explains it. Unless you're like, a, you know, Taurus. I don't, I don't know what it's opposite of cancer. I don't know what the Capricorn is opposite I see. I don't, I don't know. I've never met a Capricorn that I that, I recommend. I remember, you know, my wife, I think, is a Taurus Taurus. Okay? Taurus? I think she Yeah, is it stubborn? Yeah, yeah. That's the one. Not Leo. Leo is a different energy, right? But she's a Taurus, and cancers and tourists do get along.

Molly McCord 28:45
Oh yeah, calm, secure, supportive, but feels right for you. Let's do this.

Alex Ferrari 28:50
But if I came to you, I'm like, I have a Capricorn girl that I'm just in love with, and you'd be like, girl?!

Molly McCord 28:57
Let's talk about some differences here, because not gonna work out. Yeah, she's gonna take charge of this, and you're not gonna like it, you're not gonna like it, and you're gonna resist it, and that's the end, yeah, but then it's so great to go into more specifics in a chart, because yes, we start off with our Sun sign, and then you go into the moon sign, and your mercury, and your Venus and your Mars, and all these placements. And what you open up to as well is that you can have energies in multiple signs, and it explains things even more. Of course, you know more personally, but it also gives you an understanding. That's why I like to do this this way, or that's why I approach my home life in this manner. So it helps us, yeah, get into more of the layers of who we are.

Alex Ferrari 29:40
It's fascinating. It is, how do you reconcile with a client or someone who asks the question, well, this astrology stuff seems to have my entire life planned out for me. Where is my free will come into play

Molly McCord 29:54
Love it. Always have free will. You always have your sovereignty. You always have your person. Personal choices. And I feel too that this comes back to that spiritual foundation. You know, I don't believe that we live in a punishing universe, although some days it might feel like that, but the universe is going to honor what you choose and what direction you go. And I think that, you know, when we align with our astrology, it will show us more more benefits than not. It will show us more of what you can manifest, create experience. But if you're not interested in some things, then you will continue to be powerful and create in the ways that you know you want to. So with free will, because in a chart, we look at your north node, which is what you're learning and developing in this lifetime how you're growing. We call it a faded point or a destined point, and those words sound so romantic, right? Like they all sound, oh, it's my destiny. It's my fate. But that can that's going to bring up its own learning and growth trajectory, that can challenge you. And so I feel like what we're learning is that it's okay to trust the parts of ourselves we haven't fully met yet. It's okay to trust what you are feeling intuitively, intuitively guided towards, that your free will is here to be something you work with, and that you you love and cherish in yourself, and that the universe is going to continue to show up where you show up. And so there are people who are saying, well, I don't believe in destiny. I don't believe in fate. And to them, I say, namaste. That's that's beautiful, yet that's completely your choice. And and then you might find, especially if you believe in in karma and reincarnation, that whatever you don't do in this lifetime comes back around in the next lifetime, because you as a soul chose to have that experience or to have that part of yourself develop in the physical world.

Alex Ferrari 31:52
You just said something that was very profound, and I love to dive into it a little bit. You haven't met that aspect of you yet. Can you explain? Can you Can we drill down into that? Because I think it's very powerful idea, because I think I understand what you mean. Because this guy, I didn't 10 years ago, 20 years ago, this guy, I didn't even know this guy existed. You didn't meet this I hadn't met this guy, and I'm sure I'm not going to meet the guy in 10 years from now. I have no idea who that is, right? But there's aspects of you that kind of reveal themselves, that surprise you as you go through life. And since we you and I have both been around the sun a couple times, we kind of realized that looking back only from perspective of looking back and go, oh yeah, my 20s, I would slap that guy around. I know so much, right? I'd slap the guy in the 30s. I probably tapped the guy in his 40s, depending on where it was in the decade. But there are as there's a people of you that that you wouldn't have never met or you haven't met at those aspects of you because you haven't been challenged, and those parts haven't come out of you yet, exactly. So can you, can you dig that, dig into it?

Molly McCord 33:07
Yeah, and astrology, especially these transits, does do challenge more of these aspects of ourselves that are ready to come forward, that are ready to come out. And they do happen on a certain timeline for everyone. The Saturn Return happens for everyone. 2829 years of old, of age, you need to grow up. You need to make a choice. What are you going to commit to? What are your responsibilities? Something that begins to define your life? Happens at 30, and it's totally a thing that people have come to see plays out. It's not just you or me. It's something that, yes, this is what happens the end of your 20s, which in astrology, is when you're fully an adult. It's not when you're 18 or 21 in astrology, it's your Saturn Return that has now fully formed you into your own energy as a sovereign being who has things to take care of, things to do in the world. And then as you progress, you know, through every decade, there's different transits that come up for everyone that reveals this is an important time in your own evolutionary growth, because you're going to meet these new aspects of yourself that often only come through a challenge or through something that maybe you didn't consciously choose, but it's going to come through so in the mid 40s, 41 to 45 we call that a midlife crisis. But in astrology, it's your Saturn opposition, which is about 14 years after that Saturn Return, and then also your Uranus opposition, and that's when it's time to be very real and true with what you want in this life, what works for you, what resonates who you are now, and to be willing to step away and let go of whatever is no longer in alignment. So that's also a big time. I had a lot of life changes in my early 40s too. I got divorced. I had a new thing starting. It was, it was a big time. And that's what happens for many people.

Alex Ferrari 34:59
Yeah, it's. It's as you're talking, I'm repeating going through my head. I'm like, okay, so what was it like? Okay, 30, 30, 31 is generally mine's always seems to be around the 31, 41, 51

Molly McCord 35:13
Oh, interesting

Alex Ferrari 35:14
Kind of like in that it ranges within a year, 18 months. Yeah, this is what these things happen, right, right? So in my 30s, I met my wife, that changed the trajectory of my life. Of course, 40s, I started podcasting, yes, and 50s, I'm doing what I'm doing now, which is the streaming platform and all this kind of other stuff. And it's like this combination of my whole world all coming together. But there, every decade, there seems to be this big shift, yes, something large that changes completely. I don't remember what the 20 to 21 is. I think I was, think it was starting film school, sure. Yeah, that makes sense, coming and becoming, going into the film industry, that was a huge right shift as well. So it's interesting, but you're right around that time is every decade, something happens. I should have been more prepared for this one?

Molly McCord 36:01
Yeah, and it's kind of cool to map it out, because you can you and then you're like, I don't know what that means. I don't know what's gonna happen. And sometimes, actually, when you get too ahead of your own transits, you start to pre stress. Okay, that's in four years. Do I stress now? No, you don't. You just know it's gonna come when it comes. But we are meant to always be evolving and growing something that I believe and that's part of our soul growth in this lifetime, especially in this physical world, where we're working on this huge spectrum between fear and love, and we meet all parts of ourselves with these big life events, with these transits. And I think that astrology provides us not only with the timing that we've talked about, but a sense of like, I'm here to keep becoming more of who I am, and astrology will, like, push you down the road.

Alex Ferrari 36:50
Well, isn't it? Would you agree that astrology is kind of like, it's not going to tell you your destiny, because you have free will and you can choose how to change or deal with it, yeah, but what it will tell you is when the waves are going to come. Yes, like it's irrelevant. How you deal with the wave when it comes. You can surf it. You could try to fight it. You can get drowned by it for a minute or two. It's up to you put the wave is coming. It's coming. It's kind of like when you're born. Now, you were born a woman at the time period you were born. I was born a Latino man at the time that I was born. That's, I can't change that. That's just the cards that were dealt. And astrology seems to be telling you, these are the cards that are coming for you. Yeah, regardless if you like it or not, it's up to you how you deal with it. Is that make sense?

Molly McCord 37:35
Absolutely, and I think that's actually part of the soul's intention, which is the astrology that I believe in practice is that your soul intended to have certain experiences, including how you showed up in the physical incarnation, who your soul contracts are with the most primary being with the mother. Because everyone has a mother of some kind, whether biological you will, you need a biological mother just to arrive, usually for right now, until that changes, but that's one of the most primary soul contracts. And then you have other things that you establish at a soul level. And so I feel that when we can go higher into that our own soul brilliance and wisdom that also can be empowering and calming, it's like, okay, I chose this. I don't know why. I don't think I was understanding maybe how it would play out, or what would happen, but I feel that what we what we can always choose, is what empowers us and what loves us, and that believing the universe loves you, you're going to start to see that love in many ways in your life, even during those big waves. This wave loves me. This wave loves me, takes you under. This wave loves me, but

Alex Ferrari 38:40
Sometimes it's your waves don't stop.

Molly McCord 38:45
What would be the beautiful gift of that in the the strength, the resilience, you know, what you're learning to do better with with each wave. So it's a lot. I also want to say that, you know, it's the full spectrum of feelings, so you don't have to love every wave, like you can't spiritually bypass it, or, you know, try to deny what you really feel. You have to honor what you really feel. But I believe that that's part of, again, what our soul growth is in this lifetime.

Alex Ferrari 39:14
Now, speaking of soul growth, let's talk about what's happening to humanity. There's a couple things happening in just a few, just a couple of things happening at this time period. What is your take from what you've seen for the rest of this year, which has been a doozy so far,

Molly McCord 39:30
Which we knew, which we Yeah, which I talked about. I mean, a lot of astrologers have said, like, this is a big transition year, and then we all think, oh, okay, fine, I'll go back to my phone? No, it's like what is transitioning is right on time at a very cosmic level, within us and around us. Because what we are meant to be doing here is letting go of who we no longer are. As the world continues to change in very big ways. So we know all the technology is coming in, we can. See what's happening in many areas of life. And so we are being, I would say, accelerated to make these changes, which is hard because we don't always want to go fast, or we don't always want to make the changes. But what we are meant to do here in 2025 is to go further into what you want to truly take with you and continue to manifest that will be in alignment with the next level of who we're becoming beautiful. It's a lot because you realize you can't take all your luggage, you can't take all your stuff that you've collected. You got to empty the garage. You can't take this stuff. And we're like, possessive, and we're like, No, I want to hold it close. It's my emotional support, comfort, mug or whatever. But what we're understanding is that the world we're living in is going to continue to accelerate. It's going to require us to be more in our light bodies, to honor our own healing up to this point, to honor our intuition, I feel that it's definitely a part of the divine feminine energies within all of us that are rising up to be heard where you trust what you're feeling more you trust your intuition, more you're able to integrate that and work with that from from a more grounded, Clear place. I feel that we are getting more energetically, not only energetically sensitive, but energetically intelligent. We're reading each other faster. We're picking up on the vibe sooner. We're able to tune into more and I think all of this is part of our awakening, and it's part of what we're here to experience in this reality that is happening for the first time on the planet,

Alex Ferrari 41:42
And it would you agree that it feels like we're all going on a roller coaster, yeah? But many people will hear yell because they're terrified, and other people yell and have fun, yeah? At the same thing. Yeah, at the exact same thing. So it's really our choice on how we kind of move. I mean, to be fair, different roller coasters or different folks. Yeah, so it, but also that's the other lesson here, is that you can choose the track, in some ways, of the track you want to be on, or at least, you can create the reality.

Molly McCord 42:12
I think it's okay to feel both. It's okay to be a little bit terrified. I mean, that's human. And then it's also wonderful to be excited and wow, look what we're changing. Look what we're moving towards. I have no idea how it's going to play out, but I think it's okay to feel both

Alex Ferrari 42:27
So for the rest of this year, is it going to continue to get

Molly McCord 42:31
Oh yeah, it's going to be more endings. There's going to be more global closures, there's going to be more things that are fading out. There's going to be more weather extremes. I think there's going to probably be like some category six hurricanes, some more flooding, unfortunately, more earthquakes. All of that is going to ramp up. And of course, that is a big deal for us and destabilizes us in many ways. But Gaia is also evolving. Gaia is also raising her consciousness and shifting her energy frequencies at a core level, and so are we. So we're in this very interesting relational dance with the Earth now and then, of course, we're feeling all the effects from the other planets and how their consciousness is coming alive and really being strong right now within us. So there's a lot that's going to continue to feel like we're at these choice points and pressure points, we have to be more conscious of our grounding, of our calming, of how we can de stress, and what that looks like. I think we're going to need more focus on our bodies, on our ability to breathe deeply and trust in the moment and be in the present. I think we're going to need also to know when to get out of our heads, because we can have a lot of anxiety. We can need to put our phones away even more. So we're going to need new levels of self care, new ways of working with these energies that are, I feel are actually going to be really simple, like it's almost like, even though it gets more complex, we're also learning to simply learning to simplify in what is essential and what really supports us right now,

Alex Ferrari 44:06
You said that there'll be endings. What do you mean exactly by endings, like endings of institutions, endings of wars, endings of things that we've held on to for hundreds and 1000s of years?

Molly McCord 44:17
Yes, yes and yes, because astrologically, we have Saturn returning to the final degrees of Pisces, which is the very end of the astrological wheel, and Saturn brings in our karmic responsibilities of what we need to take care of and close out. And so at a personal level, you might feel like there's things I need to move away from now I need to end in my life. It's no longer serving me, it's no longer supporting me. It's draining me, especially if you're feeling any kind of, let's say, like martyr complex, or that you're doing everything for everyone, and it's no longer fulfilling. These are personal things that we have to realize within ourselves, but everyone individually, is moving through this of we're close. Out a 30 year cycle with Saturn. The bigger cycle is Neptune and Pisces, which is going to be at the very end of the Zodiac wheel, 29 degrees of Pisces for a few months. And this signifies what is energetically being cleared out on the planet that is no longer serving humanity. And so we're going to be looking at, you know, what we are individually, it's like a void, like what we are allowing to open up and clear out so that we can have the new potentials arrive. But this is, this is where the loss comes in. Unfortunately, Neptune and Pisces is going to bring about more of those weather developments, water movements, things that have been within humanity energetically, that need to be flushed out in order for us to move forward and evolve. And we've gotten a sample of it in the middle of 2025 but there's more that we have to clear out. And I feel like we're going to have more wisdom around why. Like, this doesn't serve all of us. This isn't where we're going. It allows us to close out what is no longer empowering. I feel that relates back to the Age of Pisces programming, where we believed we had to give our power outside of ourselves, right? And now we're understanding, Oh, it's okay for me to be powerful. It's okay to call that back. So that's going to challenge institutions and structures and leadership, getting to continue to establish, going to continue to challenge what has been established, because we're realizing we don't want that to persist on the planet, and it happens interestingly, like it happens both slowly and quickly. And so we have, like, these multiple timelines that we're sensing, especially in 2025 of what is phasing out and what is being called forward. And you could feel like you're in between timelines at times that your consciousness is navigating both. But we're going to have some some bigger closures and endings on the planet that are at a divine, cosmic level right on time, because 2026 is going to bring in more of these clear, solid beginning points that not only start a 30 year cycle, but also a 165 year cycle.

Alex Ferrari 47:22
And what was the last 165 year cycle? Was it ending around now?

Molly McCord 47:25
Yeah, it's ending now. So we're closing out a 165 year cycle. And so people like to track that back and look at, okay, well, what started you in the late, the late 19th century, and how, how we are meant to be evolving. So for example, you know, we talk about the divine feminine energies rising. Well, that's meant to help us in balancing where the patriarchy is out of control or where there isn't enough compassion or empathy or connection. So how can we bring that in? How can we welcome those qualities into where we're at right now? So just a, that's probably a very high level example, but that's part of what we can initiate in this new cycle. Is what do we want to bring forth that we are wiser about and we we fully want in our reality?

Alex Ferrari 48:13
Well, you can kind of see it in anywhere in society right now. Different industries are, are struggling. Yes, falling down. I always bring in Hollywood, yeah, I mean that that that industry is is failing out of

Molly McCord 48:27
That's a Pisces industry. So entertainment and the idealism, the glamor, the what it should be, or what you think it is, all of that is phasing out, including the era of, let's say, the ultimate celebrity, or the movie stars, yeah, people we idealize, will we see them as real people now.

Alex Ferrari 48:45
Right! Because before, like in the times that you and I were growing up, yeah? Michael Jackson, Madonna the prince, these guys didn't have social media. They were untouchable. They were they were just complete idols, let alone the Beatles and Elvis and that whole generation, yeah, so we didn't know what they were like, right? Human, whatever interviews we would get, or Yep, or whatever we would see in a documentary, or something that was to be the most now, everybody knows everything about like, Oh, I know what Tom Holland ate for breakfast yesterday, or, all right? Or,

Molly McCord 49:16
And that's insane.

Alex Ferrari 49:20
I don't follow Tom. I'm just, you know, but anyway, I'm using him as an example. But it's so true, like now, there is no that you see them as human, yes. So the movie star is gone. Yep, it's, it's almost completely phased out. There's only the people we consider movie stars have been doing it for 30 years, right? Even Leo, right? Even Leonardo DiCaprio, or Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise. I mean, these guys came up in the 80s. I mean, in the 90s, yeah. So those are movie stars, and there are a few faces now, but even then they've been doing it for 20 years, yeah? So that's changed completely. And now this kind of everybody is YouTube has changed everything. So that's one industry, but then religion is another, yeah? Yeah, and education is another where before it's like, you need a four year degree, and now

Molly McCord 50:07
Maybe not so much.

Alex Ferrari 50:08
Remember a few years ago, they were saying, coders, coders, that's the future. You have to be a coder. You need to learn how to write code. And now it's like, well, we don't really need that anymore, because we have aI now to do it completely.

Molly McCord 50:17
And so all these jobs that were about Software Engineering Technology, those are vulnerable, very the most vulnerable. And what I think we're swinging into is the value of humanness and human connection and human human touch and human interactions. And what cannot be replicated by any kind of robot or AI or thing, right? And you need people who can fix things for you, who are your mechanic, who take care of your whatever services you need. Like, those are the those are going to be highly valued,

Alex Ferrari 50:19
Yeah, I know. I mean, that's like, yeah, the trades are the thing that are, are pretty AI proof for the moment, yes, I don't know, in 50 years, there will be robots, you know, changing. I could see that. Of course, yeah, we could all see that. But there's going to be a point where, I mean, I don't have, I have young kids, and I'm like, I don't, I don't know what, what I know, where do we where do we send them? Because when you know I went to film school, yeah, I would never tell anyone to go to film I would never

Molly McCord 51:20
Well, because we're changing what is the value of certain of information, all information, when everyone has access to it, right? And so what we're actually learning that does matter is on the ground. Experience that you learn

Alex Ferrari 51:37
This could teach you so much, right? The book, not yours, specifically, but, you know, but, but at a certain point, a book will take you so far, right? Knowledge will take you so far. But experience wisdom, yes, with that knowledge, that stuff that you can't be really taught,

Molly McCord 51:54
Yes, right? And we're all looking for the quick fix on our phone, and we love that the dopamine hit, as if we're saving ourselves struggle, or we don't have to do certain challenges, like it's all more convenient. But I don't think that's what's going to happen. I think that we're going to just have new ways of of well growing, we'll say, because now we're going to understand, well, what do I do with myself, with jobs, with all this information everywhere, with everything you can access, which is going to be a really big theme over the next few years, astrologically, with Pluto in Aquarius training Uranus in Gemini, there's going to be information everywhere that continues to change our daily lives, our cities, our towns, what we do, where we go. People are going to have a new, I would say, even a new self crisis. What do I do if my job isn't secure, what am I supposed to do with my life, with my time? Where do I direct my brain and my energy that feels satisfying, worthwhile? How do I get a paycheck? It's a really big question. So a lot of people are going to come up against and we probably didn't anticipate this ever, especially in our lifetime,

Alex Ferrari 53:06
No, and it's going to happen so quickly

Molly McCord 53:09
Because it already is. It's already happening, and the writing's on the wall that it's only going to continue faster. And I think this is where we need to be there for each other, and this is where Astrology can help you in seeing. Okay, these are your talents. These are your gifts. One thing that I think is important too, is you know, you want to work with people, and for people, not companies. Companies are not going to value human labor as they have. They're not going to be these secure places that you stay for 10 years that's already ending.

Alex Ferrari 53:39
Remember, our parents generations, 50 years, you get the gold watch, and you retire,

Molly McCord 53:43
Stay with a government job, get a government job, and you'll have that for life, and you'll be a

Alex Ferrari 53:49
Mailman. Yeah, be a mailman. Be a nurse. Yep, you know, like, those are the stuff. Those are not stable jobs, that you get good benefits and but those things, those days, are gone. I know many doctors, family members who are doctors who are just like this is insane, because of the contracting and because of the way the system is built. Like before, you could be a, you know, a cardiologist, and you could make 5, 6, 7, 100,000 even a million a year in revenue just by being a doctor, not even a heart surgeon. Right now, that same position for a doctor, couple 100 grand, 250,000 I'm not saying that's not a lot of money which, but when you have $500,000 in loans that paid for that education now, all of a sudden, this is not making a whole lot of sense, and then you're also just being treated like a work mule.

Molly McCord 54:42
And so education is going to be changing because, think of it has to think of how, like, well, what's the there's the value, and then there's the cost, right? It's like, okay, well, the value of going into higher education is you're going to have, you'll learn a lot and make more money and make more money. Or you think you're going to have a job like, it's going to lead to some kind of. Of career path. But that's all changing.

Alex Ferrari 55:03
Well, I think it's absolute criminal that anybody has a film school now, I'm sorry, I'll say it out publicly. I think it's an absolute it's absolutely criminal to charge a person $25,000 a year for a four year degree to go to film school. It makes it's go to get a philosophy degree. Like, I mean, like, what are you doing with that? Like, right, right? Like, as a filmmaker, like, what would you do with that now?

Molly McCord 55:27
Well, and you know, I'm a creator, just like you, and you have to be everything. So you have to be able, like, more people these days have access to doing video, doing film, and there's so much information, and there's so much information for free out there everywhere when

Alex Ferrari 55:41
I went to film school, nothing. There was not, I didn't have DVD commentary, right? There were no DVDs, barely, when I was going high school, when I was going to college, yeah, so it was just starting to come out. So there's just no information, yeah, other than the Star Wars documentary making of and the occasional book on Kubrick or Scorsese, and that would be the end of it. Yeah, and But now everybody is an editor, everybody's a filmmaker. So to go to school to learn the things that you can learn on for free makes no sense.

Molly McCord 56:12
So this is a beautiful example of how more industries are going to be accelerating in what is readily available to everyone and anyone. Yes, and that it would be a good heads up for every single person to be aware of that in your own field, yeah, and to just have that in your awareness of, how could this be streamlined, or how could this be automated? And I know we don't want to think about that, but that is where we're headed with the astrology, and it's what is going to actually lead to some of the biggest changes in the last few years of this decade, 2028 2029 we have a lot of intense energies around financial systems, changing permanently, significantly, bringing up money we make, how we save, what we invest in, what we own. There's probably going to be a financial crisis. Oh yeah, we're way we're way overdue, way overdue. That's been, you know, coming down the road but,

Alex Ferrari 57:07
When does it say, when does it say that's gonna happen?

Molly McCord 57:09
So 2028 and 2029 which isn't that far away, which is also crazy to think about, is when we're gonna have Saturn enter Taurus and Chiron enter Taurus, and they're gonna be conjunct, and they're going to bring up the pain and vulnerabilities of our financial systems, of what we have invested in the value of money, what we are thinking is valuable and important. This is going to affect security of of our own incomes, our own paychecks. And then these two planets are squaring Pluto in Aquarius, Saturn in Taurus squares Pluto three times. Chiron in Taurus squares Pluto six times. So this is at least a two year cycle of looking at what we're doing economically with our value systems, and how it's being affected by all of these new developments that are just now part of our life, destabilizing everything that we know. And so this brings up, well, you know, what is? What is being tracked? What is now digital? Where? Where are we at in the state of currencies? This will bring up to more about the Earth, the reality check of our planet, where you will look at pollution, global warming, soil, farming, agriculture, the state of our food. And then also we're going to have to say, Okay, well also let's look at materialism. Where does everything go to? The landfill? Is it being recycled? Where's all this stuff?

Alex Ferrari 58:45
So how do you have a capitalistic system, yeah, and which is a materialistic system, and balance that with that? Now there has to be a balance, because we do need products. We do need a shirt. Yeah, we need certain things, right? But there's how it's made. You know, shirts used to last,

Molly McCord 59:03
Oh, yeah, a lifetime, yeah. Now there's fast fashion, which is like, Hmm, every month, H&M, all these places that are just churning out.

Alex Ferrari 59:11
Oh, it's horrible. Yeah, all these wash it four or five times and you're done. I'm like, what is that? What is that that's that's insane

Molly McCord 59:19
Consumerism. Reality Check. Materialism, reality check. And these are things that we know about, and we see it, and we want to be responsible citizens and take care of our stuff, but we're going to have some big energies that will really challenge us into say, Well, what are your real, pure values? What do you want on this planet? And I feel that we're going to be because we're moving towards that. Now is the time to get a heads up on your personal consumerism and your personal possessions and what you own and what you invest in, and does this have meaning, and do I need another coffee mug? And do I need more of this and what's in my closet? Like there, there can be benefits, even to the less is more, or a sense of frugality because of where we're going, is going to be permanently changing what we value on the planet.

Alex Ferrari 1:00:10
Very much. So one thing, one thing, I've heard from all of my guests, from the psychics channels and astrologers, that 2025 to 2027 is this pivotal? Yeah, time, very, very pivotal. And that 2027 is going to be something that's just gonna pop off, yeah? Whatever that is, right, gonna shift everything. Yep. Do you has that what you own as well

Molly McCord 1:00:34
completely? Yeah, I think it's exciting. I feel it's like, you know, we're ready for it at some level.

Alex Ferrari 1:00:40
Surf that wave. Let's hear it. Let's just surf it.

Molly McCord 1:00:48
But we're moving into this whole new experience of ourselves on the planet and the planet at the same time. So yes, I think we are going to have more contact with our cosmic neighbors and off planet beings. We're going to have a recognition of others who have been on this planet, including hybrids, those who are, you know, parts of various DNA experiments and things that have been going on that we weren't fully aware of. I think all of that is going to be coming to the forefront. I think that we're also going to be shifting how we live our lives, like the nine to five is gone, right? So we're having all these changes in our daily lives, in our in our everyday world, and I think that we're moving into some big breakthroughs about what matters now and and part of what the cycles are showing us is that we are going to be ready for this new experience of being human, and it's gonna bring up some bigger questions, like, what does it mean to be human on the planet now, right? Because that's a big that's a big question. When you think about it, does it just mean go to school, get a job.

Alex Ferrari 1:01:56
It's gone, right? It's really, it really is gone. I mean, at certain Yes, certain paths, yes, it's still, you know, don't take an online course to be a doctor. Please, please, don't do that. But even law, you know, used to be doctor lawyer. Oh, yeah, there's still going to be needs for a good attorney, yeah, but a lot of that bread and butter work that would keep this the contract work, yeah, although that's just, I mean, you literally can have aI whip you up a solid contract in seconds. It's, you know, or analyze a contract. You don't even need them to, I mean, you should, right now you're signing, but, you know what I mean, but that's not as secure as it wants. You and I, doctor, lawyer, doctor, lawyer, those are the, those were the, those are the two. Like, you got to be a doctor, marry a doctor, marry a lawyer. Like, that's, you know, and then I became a Carney, yeah, I was a filmmaker. There was another story. We have small we have small hands and smell of cabbage. But um, but, but all those paths are so destabilizing. And our kids, we have kids of similar age, yep, um, their generation is growing up in a completely, I wouldn't say unstable, but ever changing world. Good way to put it. So it's not unstable. It's just it's unstable for us, yeah, because we grew up when it was one thing. But they don't know any different, right? So every day that they like, oh, AI's here, oh, that's here, oh, that's here, cool. They're still at that stage. They'll get to our stage one day and go, everyone needs to slow down. But right now, where they are under development, they're constantly changing. So, you know, as parents, we're looking like, what do we help them? Right? Like, what like? We know you need to get an education. Yes, let's, let's, you know, let's figure out what that is.

Molly McCord 1:03:52
And we want you to know how to use your own brain, not go to a device, and to know how to write with a pencil. Like, there's something that I think are still going to be important. Cursive is the future. Cursive is the future. You heard it, but there's some qualities, like with my son, that I'm like, I want him to know. I want him to be developing this. Did you know, though, there was something I think was a few years ago now that there was a shortage of specialized surgeons because people didn't have the same motor skills. Yes, absolutely. So that's something that's drastically it's just one of those things you don't think about, but it's changing.

Alex Ferrari 1:04:35
It is changing. But then now they have these surgical robots, right? That are doing these surgeries, remote, remote, and they're perfect. So, like, it's like, it's a perfect cut every time it's a perfect so it's just this.

Molly McCord 1:04:50
What is the role of humans on the planet? Yeah, because our roles have changed now. And I think it goes back to, I would reference Joseph Campbell. Follow your bliss. What do you really love to do? Because you can probably make a living at it. You can probably do more than what you were taught or told had to be a career path or had to be your education. And that's the redirect that I hope we embrace and move towards. I hope it also opens up new communities, new connections, new ways for us to interact and appreciate our own humaneness. Instead of thinking that we have to be, you know, hiding in our houses or alone in our work or only doing things on our own like I hope it opens up more ways of fostering community and connecting in person, which I love, which is why I wanted to be here in studio with you. I think there's going to be a new value placed on humanity, if that's what we choose to invest in.

Alex Ferrari 1:05:44
Well, yeah. I mean, I'm a podcaster. You're an astrologer, not what we were told no when we were growing up as a career path, never, never. Mind didn't exist. It was just wacky.

Molly McCord 1:05:57
It would get you last. How are you gonna make money doing that. How would you

Alex Ferrari 1:06:04
Oh, you have a podcast.

Molly McCord 1:06:05
Oh, that's cute, right?

Alex Ferrari 1:06:09
Didn't work out, but it's but it's fun. But I say that as a hopeful thing, that there are so many things that you can do.

Molly McCord 1:06:20
Expand into that, expand into your bliss. Expand into what is available, that you can learn quickly without going to film school, that you can understand, that you can have access to and even just being in that energy of happiness like I'm so grateful for what I get to do every day. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. Honestly, I'm like, wow, this is really ideal for me. I mean, I have my podcast twice a week, I teach astrology courses, I write my books, like I do a lot, that helps people find who they are, find who you are. It's the best gift you can give yourself, and the best gift you can give the world right now, because we came here to experience this transition, right? So even though we chose this, we chose this. We're so silly. We chose this to be here. 2025 2027 2030 we chose to be a part of this

Alex Ferrari 1:07:13
At this age, whatever age you are, when you were supposed to get

Molly McCord 1:07:17
Right! And it's like, okay, we all chose to be here at a soul level, at least, that's what I believe. And so there's things that you're meant to be enjoying and loving and finding great delight in. So don't lose that connection to that part of yourself.

Alex Ferrari 1:07:32
I mean, even, even I, I'm a pretty I flow with the flow. I'm an artist. I, you know, I'm a Carney, you know, I've, I've done so I'm a pretty open dude, and I can kind of roll with things. Yeah, even I'm getting a bit fatigued at the changes. I mean, it's almost daily in some areas of life. The burnout is real. It's starting to get, like, what? Now I got it, okay, I gotta change that. Now. I gotta change that now, okay, I gotta use that new tool. I gotta get that. It's only speeding up. It's exhausting. It's exhausting, yeah, like, the second you hold on, I'm like, Oh, I'm holding on to this, but, oh, but now I gotta use this. Oh, okay, oh, I gotta use it. Yeah, it's, it's, we're in a time when we grew up, things were so slow. Yes, VHS showed up, then the video store showed up,

Molly McCord 1:08:23
And Netflix through mail,

Alex Ferrari 1:08:25
Netflix, well that we haven't got to DVDs yet, then DVDs showed up, then Netflix through mail showed up, then the streaming thing showed up about 15 years ago, and it was slow, progressive. It got faster, like from VHS to streaming sped up, yeah, but it was still manageable. You're talking about years and years of change. Yes, now it's weekly, monthly, daily. It's it's rough, it's rough. I can only imagine how people are just handling this kind of energy.

Molly McCord 1:08:59
It's tough, and I and I and it's important to acknowledge that it is tough, it's exhausting, and so this goes back to the self care of the burnout. And when you're done, then you, you, you go to your personal cave, or you, you do what you need to do to come back into your core, into yourself, going for a walk, doing your yoga breath, you know, returning to your daily devotions or rituals, like, we have to prioritize us, because out there is going to continue to be crazy making. And I know what you mean too, about just like, keeping up intellectually, because we're like, the now we're dinosaurs in some things, we're like, I don't know how to do that. And there's some things I will honestly say I don't want to learn. I don't want to learn that.

Alex Ferrari 1:09:45
I don't want to do it. I just don't want to do it. Oh God. And I deal with software so much because of the technical stuff background, and just sometimes you're like, I don't want, no, I don't want to do it. I don't want to do I'm gonna wait about six months and there'll be something new, and then I'll jump on it then, as opposed to like, Yeah, cuz I don't have the timer. The energy to be changing so rapidly.

Molly McCord 1:10:03
And we also have an opportunity now to develop more community with this, because then we have others who understand and who get it, or who can support when you need to step away from the software you know someone else maybe, or it's like, then how do we call on the strengths of each other and build these communities where we understand, I get it. You're burnt out, I get it. You don't want to do one more thing. I mean, I talked to my friends about this, where it's just like, I just I can't do dinner tonight. I'm sorry Today's been a day and I need to be in my pajamas, or I need to do very little. But let's do tomorrow night, like there's something too about how honest we can be with each other, because I think we get it. We get it more than ever. Of like, I can't go out now, it's too much, but I'll be there Saturday afternoon.

Alex Ferrari 1:10:49
I'll tell you. I was just in London over the summer, and what I found absolutely riveting, from an American point of view, is every day, at five o'clock, those pubs were jamming any day of the week. And I'm not talking about jamming, I'm talking about spilling to the streets, jamming right every corner pub, every one, not one was empty. I my wife and I turned like, you know what we need to do? We just need to move here and open a pub. Because that's what I mean. You're gonna just get a steady case of, it's insane. I never, because we have bars here, yeah? But it's cultural there. It's a thing there, like you got to go down to the pub every say, and they're all human, human connection,

Molly McCord 1:11:33
Yeah! Human connection.

Alex Ferrari 1:11:34
It was so interesting to see, yes, but that decompression is so needed. And they, every one of them, that's it's fascinating.

Molly McCord 1:11:43
And so it brings up too like, Well, where are our healthy escapism? Where do we disassociate this good for us? You know what allows us to take a step back and not deal with anymore and enjoy a good time and have a pint and do whatever you need to do to take care of your energy. And I think that's going to be something to to prioritize, really prioritize that for yourself in the healthy ways, in whichever works for you, because the best thing you can do now is take care of yourself with with everything that's going to continue.

Alex Ferrari 1:12:14
And we were not taught that,

Molly McCord 1:12:16
No, no, no, no. It was like, keep working.

Alex Ferrari 1:12:19
There was no such word itself. No, there sure wasn't you work, work until you die.

Molly McCord 1:12:24
Yeah, and you would and you would know there's something else to maybe improve in yourself or focus on, or there's another chore or task or something, there's always something. There always will be, and there always will be. But so we're but we are so vital, and we are so important. And I feel like that's something too, that more people are going to be coming into. It's like, I deserve this. I need to do this for myself. I need to be prioritizing what my energy needs.

Alex Ferrari 1:12:50
And speaking of energy, you spoke a little bit about the divine feminine, that's the one thing again, I've continuously seen, just from my own perspective, how much the divine feminine energy is becoming bigger. Yes, I talk about Ascended Masters all the time, and people always ask about the female Ascended Masters. Well now Mary, Magdalene, Kuan Yin, mother, Mary, among others, are starting to come into their own, as opposed to it's just the dudes all the time, right? And I keep seeing that again and again, and even in the world, how we're looking at the world, the compassion aspect of it, the empathy, those energies are coming up, and I've said this before, is that that the masculine energy was needed at a certain point to drive everything that's the masculine energy is like, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, where it's more outward, yes, and then the female energy is more to bring you in the nurturing energy, and that's kind of what we definitely need right now.

Molly McCord 1:13:55
Yeah, we know we need mama and when to be receptive and when to just relax, lean back, exhale, that it's okay to do that, because we weren't brought up trusting that if you stop, it's gonna fall apart. If you don't do something, it's all gonna come undone. If you if you don't know what to do, you're not gonna do the right thing. I mean, we have a lot of messages around our need to always be in that active, rewarding, achieving state, and this divine feminine rising energy is actually reconnecting all of us to the deeper trust and the deeper intuitive guidance that we each have access to. And I feel like, you know, that's getting louder as we know when to, you know, put this on mute and not allow our overactive minds to dominate.

Alex Ferrari 1:14:48
Well, the masculine energy right now, you can see it in the world. It's fighting for supremacy. Oh yeah, it's the death rattle, the wars, the politics, the industries, the. You can see that energy. They're just like, No, no, no, no, I hold on a little longer. Yeah, no, no, I got hold on a little longer. But it's losing the battle because it can't win the battle, right? It's this thing I I've always said this to people, because who you know, when we start talking about all these changes, and the war, the war is going on, and the world, you know, being upside down and all this kind of stuff people are scared of, like, is this gonna all just end? Like, you know, because we've had the bomb forever, yeah. And I've always said we should have been gone many times how, like, the missile crisis in the 60s, like that should have ended in the Cold War. There should, someone should have, oops, I touched the button, and then we're all gone, like there, there should have been, but yet there never has been. So I have a very optimistic view of our future, in the sense that I do believe we have guardrails. I believe someone is watching over us absolutely, because that's part of this game. Yes, if the game ends, then where are all these players gonna go?

Molly McCord 1:15:57
Right! And we have supportive Galactics, who I think, are steering and protecting and ensuring that humanity is still treasured and still evolving. Right then there's

Alex Ferrari 1:16:07
So from an astrological standpoint, can you talk to people at the point of in the in the chart, it would show, if humanity was ending, would that ever come up in a chart? Meaning, like there would be something so massive that you'd be like, oh, there's a huge this is this is not good, is that something that would come up in astrolgy?

Molly McCord 1:16:28
Well, at an individual level, there are points of very deep transformation where you feel like your world is absolutely ending. And you can have those intense, dark nights of the soul, sure, and you can go through a time, and I've had this in my life, when everything left, I didn't have the job, the relationship ended, I was not sure where to live, like it was a clear slate. And then you build again, right? You keep you keep going. So I don't think that it shows that humanity is going to completely be demolished and gone. I think we're at this very crucial point in evolution of understanding, yes, there are things that need to leave. There are things that are over, but then this is exciting, because we're at a point now of new creations that can serve us even better. So I think that's just part of the ongoing evolution of the planet, of our species, of everything, and, of course, of the planets.

Alex Ferrari 1:17:25
Do you believe that right now, we as a consciousness is awakening to a higher level of understanding,

Molly McCord 1:17:32
Absolutely by force or free will.

Alex Ferrari 1:17:38
You have the free will to not evolve

Molly McCord 1:17:40
Totally, but it's going to be painful. It's really hard. I would caution against that. But I think that we're at a point now where people are, you know, really maybe curious and open to what they didn't know or what they pushed aside, and going higher in their own knowledge and understandings on the planet. I remember the first time that I understood that we were galactic was like, 2010 2011 and I was like, That's the weirdest thing to talk about. But that's now, I think, coming in for people to have, like, more of our off planet origins and connections.

Alex Ferrari 1:18:15
Which is ancient, by the way, ancient, Sumerian, ancient.

Molly McCord 1:18:18
Our planet is galactic. What is ancient is galactic. So we're returning to that because it's been covered up and hidden and removed and not discussed and, you know, held within some some very, you know, well protected books and libraries

Alex Ferrari 1:18:36
Like Indiana Jones, it's like in a crate somewhere being pulled in with 1000 of the crates warehouse.

Molly McCord 1:18:39
Yes, right, that's right. And so we're at a point now of, wow, yes, this could be real. And what does this mean? What is this about? We're gonna have a lot more fascinating stories, technologies, narratives. I think there's going to be some rewriting of some, you know, what's been historically passed down. I think we're gonna have some rewriting of humanity. I think we're gonna have some new understandings of different phases of human DNA on the planet. So we're gonna have a lot more that opens up the full story. And that's that's the astrology as well. That's where it gets exciting.

Alex Ferrari 1:19:20
Looking ahead, what gives you the greatest hope for humanity's collective future?

Molly McCord 1:19:25
That we have more wisdom, consciousness and perspective. I think that there are more empowered humans on the planet, more awake humans than ever, even if we don't notice it in the day to day. I feel that, you know, we reached, we had a tipping point A while ago of what humanity could move into, could evolve into, and I say that about the energetics on the planet, and I believe that is where we're at, where we're we're choosing what is for our best and highest good. And I feel, I feel that coming, that is coming alive for many people.

Alex Ferrari 1:19:58
Do you. Do you believe that you've heard of that the Kali Yuga, right? Yeah, the yugas, and that we're in this cycle, and that we're on our way back up. We left the Dark Ages, was down here, and we're actually going up. Yeah, back to us in Age of Enlightenment, yes, but cyclically, we will eventually get back down here. But there's two trains of thought in this. One is that when we do, if we do go back down, and this, this little, this little half circle I just did there, yeah, that's, I don't know, 8000 years, something like that. So, yeah, it's a minute. But when we as a species, if we go back down, the bottom, won't be the same anymore we've evolved. So it's like this going up cycle. So the bottom is never this, bottom right? It's like, it's beyond Atlantis, it's beyond Lemuria, that kind of thing. That's one train of thought. The other train of thought is that we can evolve out of the cycle, yeah, as a species, right? As a collective, and move not to have to go through that again. What are your thoughts?

Molly McCord 1:21:05
So I see at the soul level that there's value in the highs and the lows, and that we are going to keep evolving collectively, because that's the game on the planet. And I feel that what we are learning is that we have the endurance to keep to keep going, but I think that we're going to continue to have some really powerful breakthroughs that increase the growth, if you will, that increase our revelations and increase our enlightenment. So I see it also as being connected to the galactic center in our galaxy, that it's also helping us to form new beliefs about who we are, what's possible, what we can do. And I think that that is a big part of the human journey, is the continuing to evolve what we believe about our planet and what we're doing here. So I guess I find that like we're learning this is the game, and we're learning how to play the game better, but I think we're going to stay on the cycle for a bit.

Alex Ferrari 1:22:07
Oh yeah, it's beyond what you and I have to deal with, at least in this life.

Molly McCord 1:22:15
Welcome back as butterflies or something, and just have it easy.

Alex Ferrari 1:22:19
One thing I've heard as well. Is in that Yuga cycle, yeah, is there is a center of the universe, astrologically. And please explain and tell me what your thoughts are. And as we as a galaxy, go farther away from the center, we lose more connection, hence devolve. But as we start moving towards it again in the cycle, we start to get closer to the center of the universe, which is source, and we start to evolve. Have you heard of this? And what are your thoughts on something like that?

Molly McCord 1:22:49
Well, I find that we're always evolving, but yeah, but I think that's that's interesting, because it's part of the ongoing motion of everything in our in our galaxy and in our reality. So it has a rhythm to it. And I find that even when we think of it in terms of, like, universal spiritual laws, there's there's the rhythm of, you know, of all energies. So I guess I would say that I think we are meant to keep having these varied experiences. And I'm not someone, though, who thinks it's, it's all going to be like horrific anymore. Yeah, I agree. So I don't know if I even answered your question there, because I was thinking about these cycles.

Alex Ferrari 1:23:35
But in astrology, is that, is that, is there a center of the universe? Is there, like an energy that you're pulling away? Because I know Pluto, like the one place. When Pluto is over here, it has a different energy. Yeah. Well, the center of the universe, I would imagine, would have some pull on us, right?

Molly McCord 1:23:50
And so there's the center of our solar system, right? Right the sun. But I feel like I don't, I don't know what the center of the universe

Alex Ferrari 1:23:57
Exactly. I don't either. I just because we're one galaxy, right, in a trillion

Molly McCord 1:24:02
A trillion,

Alex Ferrari 1:24:03
That we even that we know it's endless, yeah, so then there. But if this is all endless, that should be a center to all of it, because I don't spiral, right? It's a spiral.

Molly McCord 1:24:15
It's a spiral. And so we're always spiraling like our DNA spirals

Alex Ferrari 1:24:20
Exactly. So it's just fascinating.

Molly McCord 1:24:23
It is fascinating. And you know what, I like, not knowing

Alex Ferrari 1:24:27
Well, yeah, because you can't know, because you can't know, I don't have, there's not a drone that we can send up and go, can you go to the center? Please let us know, right? I'm gonna ask you, first of all, talk about these books of yours. Yeah, the awakened. The Awakening, astrology, awakening, astrology and soul growth, astrology, which I find that your astrology focus is more soul based, right? As opposed to just, you know, Star based, or more materially based.

Molly McCord 1:24:53
Bigger picture, what am I learning? What am I developing? How do I know myself more in this lifetime? And. So awakening astrology is a book that discusses your five personal planets, sun, moon, Mercury, Venus and Mars, and it goes into okay, if your moon is in Capricorn, or your Venus is in Leo, it talks more specifically about your energies, and it helps you understand more of your energetic imprint. And it's not like other books. It's not like any other book that's going to tell you the same information, because this is more of a deep dive. So your Venus connects to your divine feminine, your Mars connects to your divine masculine. Your moon sign is fascinating because your moon is where you actually had that moment of leaving your mother's womb and becoming a sovereign being, and that moment of your birth, when you separated from that cozy, all inclusive resort known as the womb, you know you were then your own sovereign being, and that left an imprint on you, emotionally, which relates to the moon sign. So it's meant to give you some more things to reflect on and know in yourself with awakening astrology and soul growth, astrology is more inquisitive to help you with some journal prompts and personal reflection and understandings of what does this energy mean to me in the book, for example, I have different client stories And so talks about someone who has their son in cancer and what they seek and what they look for, and then how to be more conscious of those cancer needs and expressions that come up.

Alex Ferrari 1:26:32
Did you tell them not to go to film school? Yes, because if a cancer don't do it,

Molly McCord 1:26:32
Take it from the great Alex.

Alex Ferrari 1:26:32
That's beautiful. Now I'm gonna ask you a few questions I ask all my guests, what is your definition of living a fulfilled life?

Molly McCord 1:26:49
It would definitely be follow your bliss, as Joseph Campbell says, but to know yourself and to know your astrology chart, which is gonna give you an understanding of who you came here to be in the life that you are meant to enjoy and to love that about yourself, to love who you are individually, to not compare to not think it's outside of you. It's a return to your own energy field.

Alex Ferrari 1:27:14
If you had a chance to go back in time and speak to little Molly, what advice would you give her?

Molly McCord 1:27:20
Girl! No idea what's coming. I would I would actually encourage her to honor her sensitivity and her intuition more that that was often like shut down or put away because it didn't know how to work with that energy or what it meant. So I would guide her to develop more understanding of what the energy was giving to her of what she was picking up on and and to trust what she was feeling.

Alex Ferrari 1:27:45
Were you raised religious?

Molly McCord 1:27:46
No, I wasn't. I wasn't.

Alex Ferrari 1:27:47
So there wasn't like there was it wasn't like a dogma that was stifling that, right?

Molly McCord 1:27:51
No, I didn't have the dogma. But I always grew up very intuitively, energetically aware, and I didn't know how to deal with it, or what the message was, or how to understand it.

Alex Ferrari 1:28:00
Now, what advice would little Molly give you today?

Molly McCord 1:28:05
To continue to play, you probably hear that a lot, but to also remember that not everything is as serious as we think it is in the moment, and to not overthink it the love, the lightness to have more lightness.

Alex Ferrari 1:28:24
Yeah, it's we take ourselves a bit seriously. And you know what like in 100 years, who cares? Who cares in 1000 years? Really? Who cares?

Molly McCord 1:28:34
Literally, nobody.

Alex Ferrari 1:28:35
If anyone remembers your name in 1000 years, God bless very few people. Yeah, they get that. How do you define God or Source?

Molly McCord 1:28:46
Oh, I believe it's all of us, all that's within us, all that's around us. It's in everything. It's in every consciousness. I'm sure you hear that answer a lot too, but I feel that that's part of what we're opening up to, is more of our own god energies internally and collectively.

Alex Ferrari 1:29:04
What is love?

Molly McCord 1:29:05
Love? Love is everything. Love is us. Love is what we are here to experience and create more of love is a verb. Love is action. Love is giving and receiving. I feel like it's everything that returns us to the best of life.

Alex Ferrari 1:29:23
Beautiful answer. If you could ask God or source one question, what would it be?

Molly McCord 1:29:28
I feel that it has to do with what, what am I missing? Am I missing? But, but what? What is more to bring into my life. Like what it what is more I can either create or magnetize in that will bring more joy to the journey. Because I feel like we need more of that. We need a bit more joy, more joy. Where is there more joy? Yeah, we beat ourselves up too much. Yeah. And it's, it's easy to get in the cycle, or it's, it's easy to get into certain you. Yeah, it's at least for me, it's easy to zone in on certain things when I need to, like, zoom out and step back, yep.

Alex Ferrari 1:30:06
What is the ultimate purpose of life?

Molly McCord 1:30:09
I think it's to heal, to play, to create, to love, to enjoy what we can, to understand, you know, how passing and fleeting it all is to make the most of what is presented right now, because it does continue to change

Alex Ferrari 1:30:28
Every second of every day. And where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing in the world?

Molly McCord 1:30:33
My website is mollymccord.online, I have a ton of astrology courses and classes that people can take to learn about their chart. And then I also have a podcast that's twice a week every Monday and Wednesday. God bless you. Yeah! I love it. I mean, I know we talked about that, yeah, I started in 2012 and it's just been a natural thing. Your OG, yeah, it's in my chart.

Alex Ferrari 1:30:56
You've podcast longer than I have look at you.

Molly McCord 1:30:59
I just, I love it, so I'm glad it can be of service to people. It's meant to guide them, validate them, empower you. Of course, I'm on YouTube, I'm on Instagram, all those places, but yeah, I just, I want to give astrology to you, because it's something that's here for you to make the most of and to use and to work with to support your journey. So I try and do that.

Alex Ferrari 1:31:19
And do you have any parting messages for the audience?

Molly McCord 1:31:21
Just that it's an exciting time to be here, that it's an exciting time to be human, even when we forget that and that it's an exciting time to keep expanding into more of who we came here to be.

Alex Ferrari 1:31:35
Molly it has been such a pleasure talking to you. Thank you so much for your perspective on astrology. I love your energy. I love what you're trying to do with astrology and focusing on the soul path and awakening and everything. So I appreciate you and everything you do and awaken the planet.

Molly McCord 1:33:19
Thank you, Alex, likewise, thank you so much for having me.