Past Lives, Soul Origins, & In-Between Lives with Dr. Linda Backman

Dr. Linda Backman 0:00
One unique quality of coming here to Earth is that we have free will. So we make that conscious choice. That's where we had karma in the past. We bring the karma forward. We can choose whether to work on it or not work on it. So we belong to a group of souls, usually at least about 10 souls. Those are the souls we have the most lives with. And I've worked with people who've told me legitimate stories of, yeah, I walked right to that particular church. Why? Because my past life memory told me, You know what street to turn on and how to get there.

Alex Ferrari 0:39
When I sprained my ankle. I was slammed downward onto one knee. What do you think of what happened to me in that in that country?

Alex Ferrari 1:06
Now, before we jump into this episode, if this conversation resonates with you, please like subscribe and share this with whoever you feel that needs to hear it. Your support helps us keep bringing this information out into the world and helps us awaken this planet. Thank you. I like to welcome to the show. Dr. Linda Backman, how you doing Linda?

Dr. Linda Backman 1:30
I'm doing well. Thank you, Alex. It's good to be here.

Alex Ferrari 1:33
Thank you so much for coming on the show. I I love your work. I love what you're doing in the world and helping helping helping awaken this planet in the way that you're doing it is beautiful with past life regressions and soul connections and in between lives and all these kind of things. So I have to ask you, before we even jump in, what got you interested this kind of thing, because it's not normally in the syllabus of a doctorate, if you will.

Dr. Linda Backman 2:06
That is, yes, my professors from years ago would probably just, you know, cringe. Well, I'll try to make a long story short, I always say to people when I guide clients, they come in two flavors, and I'm one of those two flavors. So one flavor of people that I work with are people that have known they're a soul. They might feel past lives. They might feel guides from childhood on. You know, they might say things like, yes, the grandmother that people talked about came into my bedroom twice a week. You know, in the middle of the night. That's flavor a, I am not flavor a, I'm flavor B. So flavor B of people that I work with and I am that flavor is people who come into spirituality, you know, mid life, or even later than midlife. So that's my story. About 30 years ago, I always say I was minding my own business as a psychologist, in general practice, I had spiritual interest, but I didn't understand soul or reincarnation. I was in my middle 40s, my closest colleague, a man with whom we build a group of psychologists and psychiatrists, sadly, died from a type of lung cancer in his early 30s, and when he passed, and of course, it was very sad from a human perspective, but when he passed, he began to talk to me from the other side. And part of me, Alex thought, this is just crazy. And you know, what do I as I'm a psychologist, what do I do with this? And he began to show me past lives that we had shared. So part of me said, oh, you know, this is not true, and I'm making this up. But I knew I wasn't making it up, so I continued being very curious, and I decided I'd better tell my husband, who's still my husband of many years, but my husband and I had been together for already 20 or 25 years, about 30 years ago, and we're both, you know, pretty progressive kind of people. So I asked my husband to sit down, and I explained what was going on. And basically my husband looked back at me in a really calm manner. And so I said, you don't think this is weird, is that right? And he said, No, I don't, and I kind of was shocked, and I said, Why don't you think this is strange? And my husband is a retired University professor, and so my husband said, Well, I guess here's the answer. He said, only now on this day, about 30 years ago, do I remember that as a boy? My husband said, As a boy, I remembered my past lives in detail when I was outside by myself. He grew up in the country. He said, spontaneously, I started remembering my past lives. And so my husband, whose name is Earl, Earl, said, so I've always believed in this. I just forgot. So he said, Look, if you want to. Learn about this, go for it. That was great permission for me, because it was a surprising but fascinating experience.

Alex Ferrari 5:08
Interesting, very interesting. Okay, so let's get into we're going to assume that the audience understands what a past life is. There's reincarnation that we come down every time to learn new, new lessons and deal with karma. So let's talk a little bit about karma, which is a word that is thrown around a lot in the lexicon, but it is in the lexicon where it wasn't before, but it has definitely been, you know, in the lexicon. So, like, Instant Karma, like, you know, when someone cuts you off and then they get pulled over by a cop, you know something along those lines, is right, right? Not really what karma is. That's just lovely, the universe being lovely. But so my my first question is, how does karma manifest across lifetimes, and what role does consciousness awareness, or conscious awareness play in the balancing of this karma

Dr. Linda Backman 6:04
When we come into body, when we incarnate, and I'll put it this way, when we incarnate on Earth, one unique quality of coming here to Earth is that we have free will. So we come into body with, to one degree or another, a life plan and but what we do with that life plan, we can alter based on human conscious choice, because we have free will. So we can say, well, I know I wanted to clean up that relationship with this, this soul that's going to be in my life today, I know that I wasn't a very I wasn't a very good parent. Let's just say to x soul in a past life, so in this lifetime, that soul that was my was my child, that soul is going to be my grandchild, and I'm going to behave differently. So that's the plan before we come into body, almost like a pre birth plan. But when we get here, we can say, I don't really, I don't really like this. This grandchild rubs me the wrong way. I don't want to work on it. And so we make that conscious choice. That's where we had karma in the past. We bring the karma forward, we can choose whether to work on it or not work on it. So simplistically, that's the notion of karma.

Alex Ferrari 7:28
And we do choose the circumstances that we're born into. Meaning. We choose our parents, which is, this is difficult for a lot of people to kind of wrap their head around. We choose our parents, we choose our country, we choose our religion or community, even we have one or we don't have one our gender, if we want to experience because experiencing the world as a woman is very different than experiencing world of men, depending on what kind you're in as well and what time period you're incarnating to, you know, 100 years ago. Little tougher for women slightly, you know, it is today, and vice versa and so on, depending on the skin color and all these kind of things. So we choose these things. So for people who are listening to like, wait a minute, you telling me that I chose my abusive family, or I this abusive relationship that I'm in, or I chose to be poor and you know, and like, why I would have never chosen this. Can you kind of explain to people what that is? Because it is, it's very easy, like, oh, I chose to be rich in this lifetime. Chose to have a loving family. That's a much easier pill to swallow, sure, but the more difficult ones is a little bit more difficult for people. So can you kind of guide us in, in why we would choose things like that for people?

Dr. Linda Backman 8:46
Yes. So let me say a couple things to start, yes, you're right. We choose all these things. Our parents are born in, you know, Costa Rica, born in China. You know, whatever we make those choices to two important parts to that one, when we're planning a life, we have a support team. We have a, you might call it, a guidance team, to help us make decisions about an upcoming life. And it's like, well, use myself as an example. Well, okay, Linda soul, you know you're going to clean up this and that, and you know you've got this long list of what you're going to clean up. You know, guides are saying that's a lot to take on into a lifetime. And so we The point is, with that, we have support and we have input. The other part is like, for example, choosing our parents. And I know people go, Why in the world would I choose this person as my mother? This person is my father? Um, those souls have to agree as well. So when we pair up as, you know, mom and child or dad and child or whatever, um. There's an agreement on both sides. Then when we come into body, both sides, both people, in this example, have to be willing to work on it. But I'll just say, I'll give you a very short story, but something I realized about my own past lives, and it explained a lot for me. So let me see if I can make this story fairly short. Um, my mother's on the other side. I never had a great, cozy relationship with my mother. It wasn't awful, but it also wasn't, you know, I think we all sometimes idealize how a mother should be, how a father should be, how a grandparent should be, and so, you know, I had a relationship with my mother, but not something wondrous. When mom ended up. My dad had passed when mom ended up by herself and in her late 80s, and she wasn't doing very well, I had this compulsion to make sure she was cared for. My logical brain said, let you know, talking to myself, Linda, are you know? Are you kidding me? You're gonna, you're gonna try to take care of this woman that you've really not gotten along with very well for, you know, years and years. But there was this compulsion, Alex, and what ended up happening that long story made short is we moved my mother closer to us, into a residential, you know, facility for for seniors, and I was responsible for making sure mom was cared for until the end of her life. She died in her early 90s, but during that seven years that she lived close to me, I uncovered a past life, a past life I, you know, didn't know anything about previously I was married. Let me see if I make this simple. I was married to a man of some role in the era of time in India, when India was becoming independent from UK during the Nehru period, I married a man that I was deeply in love with. He had political aspirations. He was about 10 years older than I was, and we had a daughter soon into the marriage. After the daughter was born, he basically left the marriage, because he had these political aspirations, and I was left with the daughter to raise her. The daughter had lost her father, but I got completely bogged down with my grief over losing my husband, and I basically willed myself to die when our daughter was 10 years old, so she was abandoned, no father, no mother. I made the choice I basically willed myself to be ill, and I died when she was 10, the soul of that past life daughter, I learned, is the soul of my current life mother. And when I realized that, it was like, Oh, now I understand the compulsion to make sure mom's cared for, and I was given the opportunity to clean up some karma. Thankfully, I stuck with mom. I cared for her. I actually held her until she took her last breath. I didn't know any of that when I committed to move her closer to where I live.

Alex Ferrari 13:14
It's funny because my wife and I, we, obviously, we've been together for a long, long time now. And we're, you know, we're just meant for each other. We know that. And we, as you are well aware, we talk to a lot of psychics, a lot of channels, a lot of people in this world. So we get readings. You know, when people are here and things like that, they're like, Hey, do you know you guys have had a lot of past lives together, and my wife goes, Well, I must have been in a hurry in this last one boy, because I guess there must have not been a whole lot of other options. I guess. All right, I'll go with Alex again, I guess,

Dr. Linda Backman 13:53
Again?

Alex Ferrari 13:54
Again, as many like it seems excessive how many times we've been together the thing, but it isn't. But I love the way you put it, that it's a it's a choice, not just because of you, but also someone else has to stand up and go. Another soul has to go, Yeah, I'll play that part. That's I'll play that part for you. Yeah, I need, I need to learn empathy. I'm like, well, I'll play the opposite of that for you, so you have something to be empathetic towards, or I need to get over struggle, or you need to get over this fear. I need to get over this phobia. I'll handle that for you and they and then, and then, in another lifetime, you can help me invite and that's what a soul group is, correct?

Dr. Linda Backman 14:34
Right! It's like, I'll agree. Give me the script. I'll read the script because I'm going to help you, but really we're going to help each other.

Alex Ferrari 14:44
Exactly, exactly. So the thing in regards to free will is also very interesting, because you were saying, Hey, we're planning our lives, that we have a council of elders, if you will, somebody. There to kind of, kind of like, hey, you know, I want to take care of all of this. I'm like, it's a lot for one human life. You're going to it's going to be pretty brutal. Let's, let's pair this down a little bit all of that. People, a lot of times, talk to me about it. They're like, hey, well, if I have free will, then if I planned everything, what's the point of this? If I planned a life, and I'm going to be this person and this person, and this is going to happen to me, and I'm going to have this job, and I'm going to live in this place, like, why am I even doing? Like, what's the point of the free will? The way I understand it is that we plan mile markers along the way, and then how you get to each mile marker is truly up to you, and that's where the free will happens. But you will be born a woman in this life, you will be born in this country. You will be born to these parents. These are things that you have no control over. It's free will is concerned, because you have that free will on the other side. But yeah, you deal with the situations, how you deal with the adversity or the happiness or all of that stuff, or the fame or the success or the lack of that is where the Free Will lies, and that these kind of mile markers along the way are how you get there. Is really where your free will is. Does that make sense to you?

Dr. Linda Backman 16:08
Yeah, that makes complete, complete sense. We, you know, we choose our when we're in body. We choose our behavior. We, we either choose our emotions, or we choose how to deal with our spontaneous emotions, that that it's all choice. And you're right. We come to these, you know the old joke about, you know, the Yogi Berra, the joke about, when I come to a fork in the road, take it. Well, we come to a fork in the road, and then we choose which way to go, which fork to take, and how to handle that, that that fork, and whether we cave in to anger or sadness or depression. I mean, I obviously, I've worked with clients doing this kind of work for around 30 years. The stories are kind of amazing when we come upon someone who maybe we didn't get along very well with them last time, or maybe we did get along well with them last time, but this time, they've agreed to to appear as the Nemesis. And what are we going to do about that nemesis?

Alex Ferrari 17:18
Now this is this I wanted to kind of dive into about indicators of a strong connection to past lives, what people can look out for as an indicator, like, oh, there's a connection here. Now it's really easy. Like, oh, she's the love of my life. Oh, he's the love of my life. That's a real easy connection, right? But I'll give you an example of something that happened to me and you kind of touched on it with your mom's story, that this compulsion to take care of her, even though in this life, it doesn't really make sense, like you didn't have the relationship to justify that feeling Correct, right? So for me, there was a person that I met, and I mean, this person has done nothing wrong to me, has never said a bad word to my face, at least, really have no connection to them other than distant family, connection that they married into our, into our, you know, distant family. I've met them twice. Every time I meet them, I there is this, this negative, just dark vibe to this person that is just like, Oh, get this person away from me. They've done nothing wrong to me. I felt that so was so weird. They've done nothing wrong to me. They've been pleasant to me, for the most part, been pleasant to me, other than their own normal neuro neuroses and stuff like that. After going out to dinner or something like that, you see little things, but nothing to warrant this innate feeling I have towards this person. And again, I haven't seen this person in probably eight years, but I've never forgotten it. It was like, Wow, this just it feels so toxic, it feels so dark, it feels like and they, again, nothing to me. They have no relationship with me. It's just those interactions. Is that an indicator?

Dr. Linda Backman 19:10
I mean, I would hazard to say, you know, I always say to people, well, I'd rather learn this, you know, guide you in a regression and have you learn it through regression because, because that's you bringing the the details forward intuitively. But yes, but yes, when you have no explanation, you know, it's like the traveling somewhere and in current life. You've never been there before, but you decide to go wherever, to Egypt, to France, to China, to, you know, wherever. And you get there, and there's a familiarity you can't explain logically. You've been there before. You've I've even worked with people who who arrive in a city, for example. And number examples of this. Where they want to go find, you know, they wake up the next morning after they've arrived in this strange city. Maybe, you know countries strange to them, and they want to go to a museum or a church or, you know, a historical site. They don't need a map. They let their intuition guide them to the location. They just go out on foot. And I've worked with people who've told me legitimate stories of, yeah, I walked right to that particular church. Why? Because my past life memory told me, you know, what street to turn on and how to get there.

Alex Ferrari 20:33
It's fascinating. I want to talk about this. Something happened to me, and I'm curious to hear your thoughts about it. We were traveling over the summer abroad, and we were going to go to an area of the world where I know my DNA is actually from, okay? And then talking to my family, they told me that all of my great grandparents and all that they're from this area. Yeah, it's, it's my it's, I got two confirmations that this is where my lineage comes from. Talk about generational karma in a second, I was talking to a friend of mine who was a psychic, and I was telling her about my trip, and she's like, Oh, you, you're going to have to deal with some karma, some generational karma, when you get there. I forgot about it didn't, because it's just one of those things. You're like, Yeah, I'll deal with it Sure. Day one of landing in that city, I I sprained my ankle. I sprained my ankle walking all across Europe, yeah, and I sprained my ankle day one, and then I had other, other physical things that happened to me, illnesses and things like that, that just brought me to my knees. Brought me to it was painful, some of the most painful things I've gone through. And I cleared it up and went through it, but it was but then I remember my wife was there, and she goes, didn't so and so say that you were going to have a karmic deal with some karma here. I was like, Yeah, I guess, I guess, I guess she wasn't wrong. So I've never felt that before. I've never dealt with that before, like generational karma of a place that is your lineage. Can you kind of dig into that a little bit. And what do you think of that experience?

Dr. Linda Backman 22:22
Yeah, wow. Okay, well, one thing that people don't think about is, okay, so here's my, as you're talking about, here's my blood family. Here's my, you know, current life, blood DNA. That blood DNA. Let me see if I can think of a good example, usually our first degree relatives in current life, most, if not, you know, many, if not, most of them are souls we've had lives with before. So our the best way to put it, and I can't talk about my hands, is that our blood DNA interacts with our soul DNA, and it's all related. It's all you know. You may well be dealing with a past life issue when you arrive to wherever you arrived, and yes, it's related to your twice great grandmother. But that twice great grandmother is a soul you've had past lives with. So it isn't just blood, it's also soul. Here's another quick piece I'll add in, and I know we're going to get into soul origin, so I'll clarify this even more specifically then. But as a soul. When our soul is created, we when we're a new soul, when we're a young soul, we belong to a small group of souls. I like to call it a soul pod. So we belong to a group of souls, usually at least about 10 souls. Those are the souls we have the most lives with, because those are the souls that we know well enough and we make agreements Okay, in this next lifetime, I'm going to be your angry step brother, and I'm going to push you to dig into your own strength and not let and not cave in to me because I'm angry. And we're going to make that agreement because we've had past lives with each other, there's almost a trust level, and we're going to push each other's and here's an important term, Soul evolution. We're going to push each other's soul evolution.

Alex Ferrari 24:34
Interesting. So, so then let me ask you this, when with generational karma. I've heard this from studying yogis and ascended masters and things, that when a soul reaches a certain level of enlightenment, let's say that they can break the karmic they're done. They're done here. They don't have to come back right. Moving on to the next level. Many do stay like, geez. Or Buddha, and they stay around to kind of guide humanity and help humanity. I forgot the Bhagavata, not the Bhagavata, but the Bhagavata, or something like that in the in the veil. Yeah, exactly you're saying it, right? They're staying behind to help other souls, right? What I've heard in those studies is that when a soul reaches a certain level, it it clears six generations forward and six generations back, of karma for people in that soul family, that is something that I heard. But that's one thing. Secondly, can one person like I did in where I went to dealing with that generation, I had to deal with generational karma. I'd never been there before. I had nothing to do with it, right? But I cleared generational karma. So my generation, my kids, or other people coming down the line, don't have to deal with what I had to go through in that space. Does that make sense? Can the soul clear karma for the like? Can I clear like? I don't want to like, let's say I'm an alcoholic. I don't want to deal with addiction anymore. I'm stopping it here. It's stopping the movement of that karma generationally. Because if your grandfather was an alcoholic, your father was an alcoholic, you're an alcoholic. You don't want your kid to be an alcoholic. You stop it. Can you do that?

Dr. Linda Backman 26:23
Let me answer that in two ways. One would be, you know, I say this, and I don't mean this in any kind of arrogant way, but for 28 to 30 years, I've been guiding soul level regression, usually multiple times a week. That's how I've learned about what I know. And I don't give the information to the client. They give the information to me. So I look for, I mean, I learned from an original mentor as well, many years ago, I have not and I think this is completely a valid statement. I've never heard of a client, telling me they automatically are healing karma for others. But then I want to add in what I think is a possibility, and I think may be likely, is that you Okay? So let's just say you have two children, and they know the steps you took to go to wherever you went and to do what you could to heal karma. You're serving as a teacher. You're demonstrating, you're literally, humanly demonstrating your commitment to clean up whatever it is you're cleaning up that is, is a teaching moment, you might say, a modeling moment for your children, your friends, your spouse, whoever it might be. I think it's more exhibited in behavior than automatically snap the door closes and the karma is gone. That's my take, simply because I've never heard of any client. Tell me, okay, I did this and I healed, you know, six generations back and four generations forward.

Alex Ferrari 28:15
But have you had a client who was a walking master?

Dr. Linda Backman 28:20
Well, so there's that that, I mean, that's a beautiful question. Let me say a couple of things. First, there's a lot Okay, in my opinion, from learning through through years and years of guiding clients, when we come into body, we this, I know to be true. When we come into body, we bring a slice of our soul energy. We bring a holographic it's almost like a pie. We cut a slice of our soul pie. It's all holographic. We bring that slice into our body at birth, and that's why we live and breathe. When the umbilical cord is cut, the remainder of our soul energy is our higher self, is our soul that always resides in the higher realm. The more evolved we are at the soul level, the greater our responsibility as a soul and at the soul level, we have roles, responsibilities and commitments related to humanity, to aid humanity, doing what we can, to serve as a guide, to push humanity's healing. And what, what often worries me, to be honest, is I think there's a lot of I have a friend, a spiritual friend, that calls it matrix, and by that meaning the what you might call the plastic matrix, the the plastic perspective of spirituality.

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Dr. Linda Backman 31:09
That is something like, well, if I just love enough, I'll clean up all my karma, or something like that. Well, loving a lot is important, but also taking action to clean up your karma is also important. So number one, when we if, if we reach the point that we no longer incarnate on Earth, our soul continues to work in the higher realm. So that's a really important piece of understanding. And I work with clients all the time to connect with their higher self, because your Higher Self holds all the wisdom, all the knowledge you've ever gained in any life, and your higher self is always one of your spiritual guides. But it isn't like, oh, poof, I'm done, and I get to, you know, eat pizza and drink beer up in the spiritual realm for, you know, for the next 2 million years or whatever.

Alex Ferrari 32:11
So what do you think of what happened to me in that in that country is, what do you think that karma was, if, if it's true that what the psychic told me was that I was dealing with generational karma, and I was kind of taking a bullet for everybody. Does that make sense in your experience?

Dr. Linda Backman 32:28
Yes, yes, I think that's completely plausible. You're certainly cleaning it up for you, and you're demonstrating both literally as a human and energetically at the soul level, that you were willing to work on that karma, even if the karma has been handed down generation to generation.

Alex Ferrari 32:52
And you know, it was funny, and I noticed this right away when it happened, when I when I sprained my ankle, I was slammed downward onto one knee. I was thought, I thought because when you fall, when you sprain an ankle, you fall, you're, it's, it's very kind of like cumbersome, you, you know, you, you throw, you fall, all that. And I've done that 1000 times in my life, but I've never had one happen where I was slammed down to one knee, almost like I was being brought down, humbled, like in front of a king or a queen or something like that. It was just, it was literally first thing in the morning. We walked out of our our hotel, and we were walking down the street four minutes, five minutes into walking down the street, I sprained it. It was fascinating, but that motion of being dropped, it just in my mind, the image that came up that was, I was being humbled in front of a king, or I was being humbled in front because you bow you Yes, yes, it means, but it was just so profound.

Dr. Linda Backman 33:54
Well, I think, I mean, I think it could mean one or both of these possibilities, that perhaps there was a past life tied to an authority figure, a leader and and you needed to, as you say, be humbled. But I also think, and probably listeners, most listeners, I'm sure, kind of spiritually oriented, we at times, have to be brought to our knees in order to work on things we need to work on. It's like, Oh, I'll get to that tomorrow, oh, maybe six months from now. But it's when we're, quote, unquote, and me too, I've had those experiences. Certainly, for sure, when we're brought to our knees, we almost have no choice but to face it,

Alex Ferrari 34:45
Very true, very true. Now let's dive into soul origins, because that's something I haven't really heard before with all my conversations. Can you dive into soul origins and earthly incarnations? Like what those mean?

Dr. Linda Backman 35:01
So let me say that, you know, often people think about past life regression, which, yes, that is a type of work that I do and and when I guide clients to discover a past life, the past life is chosen at the soul level. I don't choose the past life, and the guides and the higher self of the client choose the past life. The primary work that I do is stepping in, guiding a client to step into a past life, discover the details of that life, move all the way to the final scene of the past life, and then what makes the regression unique beyond past life, is that then we work at the soul level of the client. We follow that natural journey that happens every time we pass that slice of our soul leaves the body, leaves the past life, body that's no longer living. And that slice of our soul is almost like a, you know, a homing pigeon knows how to elevate and reconstitute back into the higher self, and then the client learns about who they are as a soul. So given that, what I've learned over many years is that there are, we might say, three types of souls that agree to come to Earth. And I'll just kind of give the shortened version of explanation. The bulk of humans are what I call, what I've been told to call, through regression, earth based souls. And I always want to be sure people hear me, because often people think I'm saying earth bound. That's a different term as a different spiritual term. An earth based soul is a soul that was created to grow and evolve lifetime to lifetime, sort of over and over and over in body on Earth, it's like we go to school here in this earthly Laboratory, which, as everybody knows, can be challenging. So based soul primarily comes to earth, embodies on earth, and the more evolved we are. And we can get into this a bit later, if you want, but as we grow and evolve to higher levels, we agree to aid humanity. We agree to aid the evolution of humanity. So that's an earth based soul. There are two other types of souls that may choose to come to earth, and I've learned this from guiding so many regressions. So, oh, I don't know, maybe 17, 18, years ago, I started realizing that my regression practice was about 50 to 60% clients coming to me who were discovering in their regressions that they are a soul that did not originate basically in the spiritual energy of Earth, that they are a soul that originated in the celestial realm outside of Earth. They come, if they choose to come into body. On Earth, they come from a healthy culture somewhere in the broader celestial realm. It could be a planet, it could be a star system, it could be a non dance and interdimensional location. It could be a spacecraft. And this information has come through the regression. I don't prompt it, it, it the client tells me. I don't tell them. So the second type of soul that that can choose to come to earth is what I call an interplanetary soul. People can exchange that term. It means the same as et it means the same as star seed, it again, is a soul that doesn't have a lot of Earth incarnation experience, but agrees to come to Earth because that soul comes to Earth from a healthy culture, and they bring their healthy perspective to aid humanity. A lot of interplanetary souls? Well, let me say this differently. Interplanetary souls always have some advanced skills because they bring those skills from elsewhere. Interplanetary souls often struggle with allergies, digestive disorders, chemical sensitivities, autoimmune disorders, because they're not used to this human container, and the air that we breathe and the food that we eat and that sort of thing. But they're wise souls, and we need them here. So that's an interplanetary soul. So earth based souls, interplanetary souls, last type of soul. I work a lot with these kinds of clients are souls that come from the angelic realm. So the angelic realm of souls, that group, that cadre of souls, that community, directly serve source. They directly serve whatever we want to call it the divine great spirit, or. Um, there's a Sanskrit term called the Manu. But angelic souls are the emissaries of source. And when I work with those clients, the signature energy of those clients is love, compassion, non judgment, that higher order of behavior, that that source exudes, and so those are what I call angelic realm souls.

Alex Ferrari 40:27
So let's dive into the angelic realm souls for a second, because I am a recovering Catholic. So as a recovering Catholic, angels are part of our lexicon, for sure. But to my understanding, angels don't ever incarnate, according to the Catholic way of looking at things, that they don't come in and, you know, become a become a person, their their soul doesn't ever incarnate. They're always there behind the scenes. They're always helping us, but they don't incarnate So and then, you know, certain movies like city of angels or Wings of Desire come into mind where it's an angel who really wants to, you know, and there's many other ones having the Warren Beatty movie back in the day,

Dr. Linda Backman 41:11
Heaven can wait.

Alex Ferrari 41:12
Yeah, those kind of films, um, about incarnation. So how does that work? How does an angel now, we're really getting into the deep end of the water. How does an angel soul work? Linda, how does that work differently than a human soul, like, or an earthly balance, old like, how does that work differently? And is it something that they can come in and come out of? Do they have karma, or are they just here as an area? How does that work?

Dr. Linda Backman 41:37
Wow. Okay, good questions. Well, okay, so many things. This could be a three hour conversation, which, of course, it's not okay. So think about the world. You certainly know this. If we look at Western spirituality, the religions based on Abraham, and we look at Eastern spirituality and philosophy, one thing we know basically, is that Eastern, all Eastern teachings, teach reincarnation. Yes, modern Western teachings, and there's a history to this which we could talk about if you want, but modern Western teachings, by and large, don't teach reincarnation. Now, the Sufis of Islam do teach reincarnation. The Kabbalists of Judaism do teach reincarnation. But by and large, there's kind of a split Well, who's right and who's wrong. So what? So I think the answer is, humans start. I'll just say watering down and almost writing their own understanding, writing their own rules. We know you can study this on Google, and you can study this in history, in the beginning of Christianity, which of course, was Roman Catholicism in the beginning, in the beginning of Christianity, before about, and I always forget the date, like 340 something, ad, or what we if you take it out of religion, ce common era in 342 let's just say. Ad, there was a meeting of the fathers of the Roman Catholic Church. And Constantine at that time was the head of the Roman Catholic Church. Up until 340 something ad reincarnation was taught in Christianity. Then it was struck out of the liturgy. It was struck out of the teachings because humans decided to remove it. So the point is, what choices do humans make in terms of teachings, in this case, angelic souls, and what's valid? I can tell you, I have worked with clients who I know are angelic souls. I didn't tell them. They told me. The reason we need angelic souls on the planet is because we don't have enough love and compassion on this planet, and we need these this soul energy of pure, high frequency, we we might say, when I guide a regression, and you know, people, in many ways, I'm not saying everybody in the world needs to have a regression, necessarily. When I got a regression, the client goes where they need to go. And I have clients, actually, a client yesterday, they go directly to their home location in the spiritual realm. In this case, this particular client from yesterday went directly home, if you will, to where their higher self resides, and began to describe to me where they come from. That's how I learned about this. I didn't tell them. They told me, I have no doubt. There are souls from the angelic realm that come to Earth. I'll add a couple more pieces, just because listeners might be interested. The angelic realm is headed by or coordinated by the Archangels. The lead Archangel this has come forward in many regressions, and I'm not teaching religion. I'm this is spirituality. The lead archangel is Archangel Michael, but there are many other Archangels. Some of the archangels continue to incarnate.

Alex Ferrari 45:33
So one of the Enoch was an Enoch, an angel.

Dr. Linda Backman 45:37
Yes, right, yes. Metatron, yeah, exactly, yeah. So some of these souls I've studied ancient Egypt. I've guided tours of ancient Egypt with a colleague of mine, who lives in Luxor, who can tap into the portals of ancient Egypt. In some cases, some of the archangels were incarnate in the development of the the Egyptian dynasties. That Dynastic Period, Egypt being the one of the three oldest civilizations on the planet,

Alex Ferrari 46:14
Current, current ones, at least. Yeah, interesting. Okay, very interesting. Um, so let's, let's dive into life between lives, which I find fascinating, because we all have heard of past lives. We've even heard of future lives, which we could dive into a little bit if, if you're interested, if you have any information about future lives. But in between lives, I've actually spoken to multiple people who've had they remember the moments in between lives. So when they died, that whole part with the Council of the Council of Elders, planning out the lives, making contracts, agreeing, they remember all of that. What is your experience with your clients about in between lives?

Dr. Linda Backman 46:59
That's exactly the kind of regression that I guide. So when the client leaves the past life, leaves the death scene of the past life, that slice of their soul, and they describe it in great detail. Sometimes it's colors, sometimes it's intelligent communication, the client experiences the return journey that literally happens every time we pass, but it happens in the regression the client experiences connecting with their higher self and in between lives is confusing, and in some ways is a misnomer, because if So, people will say to me, well, which in between lives am I going to in this regression? You know, am I going to in between the life 300 years ago and the life 200 years ago? Well, the bottom line is that our soul, energy exists at all times, and so if we're, if we're not incarnate, you could say there isn't, you know, an in between life period, but really a, what I call a between live soul regression is connecting to our soul level, and our soul is always in spirit.

Alex Ferrari 48:15
Beautifully said. Do do spirit guides assist us in our soul evolution during lifetimes. Because we talked about the spirit guides before. But are they hand like you know, we talk about guardian angels. We I've spoken about spirit guides like you. Have a team with you that's kind of guiding you through the whole process. What is your experience with your your work?

Dr. Linda Backman 48:39
We always have at least a spiritual guide. We always have a primary spiritual guide, that guide, you know, resides in the higher realm and is present and available to us at all times we for net, we forget to connect with that guide. But they don't leave us. It's we need to be the ones to be conscious and open to ask for support and assistance. So we always have at least a spiritual guide, an earth based soul has a lead spiritual guide, a senior a primary spiritual guide, and usually a team of guides, an interplanetary soul and an angelic realm soul are usually guided by their higher self, and the reason for that is because for call it IP interplanetary, for IP souls and angelic angelic realm souls, they are so advanced, they're so evolved that their own soul, their higher self, when I'm working with an IP client or an angelic realm client, their higher self is their primary guide, because their higher self is quite advanced, that's their guide. We're never without a guide.

Alex Ferrari 49:58
It's interesting. I. Had, I had a guest on the show who took me, not through a regression, but a guy, they guided me to basically meet my spirit Council. Mm, which was fascinating. And in there you would, I just met he like, Who do you see in the Townsville? And I would see different energies. And there was one that was very almost war, like, like, armor on and spikes out, and looks pretty scary, but he's the the guy who sees like, oh, that's your that's kind of like the person who protects you and, and, and I asked him, like, have you ever incarnated on Earth? And, and comment that came back was like, I would never, I would never degrade my soul in that manner to go downtown. I just thought that was really funny, because this is a tough school. This, yeah, this is, this is the Oxford. This is the Harvard of right of soul schools is a difficult place to be. It was your experience as well.

Dr. Linda Backman 51:04
Oh, totally, totally, and, and, you know, I've had clients who, at times, will say, Earth was created as an experiment. And so then I say to the client, you know, tell me more as an experiment tied to what and it's like as an experiment to see if we can use our free will and use our consciousness to make healthy choices, to move this community we call humanity, to move humanity forward to a everybody gets their needs met. We don't denigrate one group over the other. We don't ignore the needs of animals, plants, minerals. We take care of this planet that the and I'm not so sure. I don't agree that that earth and the fact we have free will is because are we going as we as incarnate souls? Are we going to be conscious enough to make healthy choices on this planet? I think that's our job.

Alex Ferrari 52:16
Very true. Are we going to be able to make these choices? Is the question, isn't it? Now, how do we become a little bit more sensitive to the messages or the guidance coming from the other side? Because we all have gut instincts. We all have the oh, I felt it in my stomach. I got butterflies make a left instead of a right. We kind of got those things. Everyone feels that at one point or another, generally. But how can we become more sensitive to more guidance from the other side? We've so many of us feel lost. You know, it's like you said, it's not easy. You know, we need some cliff notes down here for this college. We need some cheat sheet every once in a while, because it gets a little, gets a little hairy down here. So how come a little bit more sensitive to that guidance?

Dr. Linda Backman 53:07
Yeah, I mean, I would say a couple of things, Alex, you know, when you talk about Cliff Notes, it's like the example you gave when you were traveling and, you know, you sprained your ankle, and, you know, fell to your knees. The cliff notes are, this is not, you know that there you there's a book from long ago, which you probably know. This is not bad things happening to a good person, right? This is, uh, listen up. This is pit, you know, like a great big sign, pay attention. You're not ill or being hurt for no reason. What is the purpose of what's going on? So, first of all, trusting, and that's easy to say, but trusting what comes forward is one answer, and then the the other is and you know this as well, if not better than I do as humans. We're not taught how to tap into our intuition. We're not taught to trust it. We're not taught how it works. So I say to people, and I'll just say this briefly, but ask yourself, people that are listening, how am I most often intuitive? Do I get pictures in my mind? I don't know where they came from, but I ignore them, or, you know, imagery, or what we technically call clairvoyance. So am I imagery based with my intuition, eyes closed, eyes open. Do I get pictures? Am I very sensitive and pick up on emotions, emotions of someone else, emotions of you wake up in the morning and suddenly you feel sad or anxious, and you know, you go to the news and you see. Like, oh, there was an earthquake halfway around the world. And you're, if you're clairsentient, you're picking up on the emotions of those people that are going through that incident. So are you more emotion based with your intuition? Is it your body that picks up sensation? Some of us get like, a minor headache, and it's like, oh, that's the sign of the earthquake that happened halfway around the globe, or that's the sign of your closest friend is having a challenging day, or they're ill or something like that. So are we Claire somatic? Or this is really common for me, I can be very mental. My guides talk to me through my thoughts. They talk to me through a sense of knowing. And as humans, we can just cast that aside and say, Oh, I just made that up in my head. But oftentimes, no, we didn't make that up in our head. We're clear cognitive. So everyone ask yourself, How do you tend to be intuitive and then trust it?

Alex Ferrari 56:05
That leads into my next question is, how can you tell the difference between your imagination or true spiritual contact? In other words, because that perfect example I gave you of my, my, my, my council of elders, I could have made that up, but it doesn't like I wasn't like things that were popping into my head were not that. I kind of felt that this was something different. But for many people who might not have that training or that understanding, or that feeling that like no this seems real. How can you tell between something made up and something's not and I imagine, in your work, you're like, you're sitting with someone. I'm like, I'm in Atlantis. That's right, I'm in Atlantis. I'm riding a giant crystal, you know, like, how do you know that that's just making it up from what they've read? Or is this truly a past life regression?

Dr. Linda Backman 56:58
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I train people to guide regression. So there are various things you look for. One, how quickly the information comes forward, this sort of sudden spontaneity of information that comes forward, where basically, basically, you didn't have time enough to ponder it and think about it. It's just, here's an image and it's just there and or the spontaneity of emotions. When I'm guiding regression, the clients giving me details, they're moving along. They're, you know, pretty balanced emotionally. And suddenly they pause, and suddenly they're scared, suddenly they're sad, suddenly they're tearing up. It just comes on with no explanation, because it's real and or level of detail, level of specificity. Here's a location. It's this in the spiritual realm, but they can describe what's being said to them. They can describe the imagery in minute detail. They're not, you know, famous artists. They're not famous writers and but it all, and this makes more sense for people you know, beginning to guide clients, but the pieces have to fit together. Interviewing the client has to fit with what comes forward. And to be honest, regression is a bit of a science in the sense that certain colors mean certain things, certain images mean certain things. It's almost like this is not mediumship or channeling. But I think most of us know if we've ever been to a channel or a medium, each capable channel or medium has their characteristic skills. It's like if they see pink, it means this, if they see a gold door, it means that it's like it all has to fit together. So there are all kinds of indications of validity.

Alex Ferrari 59:07
Perfect example now with with the world the way it's going right now, it seems so chaotic. Systems are breaking down. I've spoken about all of that ad nauseum on the show, from your point of view as a as past lives and karma, it seems that humanity as a collective is going through an awakening. There's no question that that's happening. We are evolving. We've probably evolved more in the last 100 years than we have in the last 1000 it's sped up, not only technologically, but also just on a spiritual level. I just see it. We all kind of see it. This conversation wouldn't have been possible 15, 20, years ago. Nobody would have been watching, right so these things are happening, but with all the things that are happening outside right now, that seems like everything's going crazy, and there's wars and there's this or that, i. What is it? What is humanity dealing with karmically? And is that a thing? Are we like, you know, dealing with what we are we sowing, what we reaped? You know, with the Earth, with the planet, with each other, all of these things. What is your take on it?

Dr. Linda Backman 1:00:18
Well, I mean, I certainly think we're being shown we as humans, we're being shown all kinds of examples of what we as humanity have not yet accomplished that I think was intended in the beginning of this culture called humanity, but we've not yet accomplished. And you know, it's hard to make it simple, except that I think one simple way to look at it is, are we going to be self serving? Are we going to be? Oh, this is all about me, me, me and my needs, and my need for power or control or money or belongings, or, you know, whatever it might be. Or am I going to care about. You know, you know, my fellow member of humanity, you know what? What are we learning about? Do we get drawn into misrepresentation of what some leaders going to accomplish? You know, I'll just give a quick example. We do not need to walk way down this road. But, you know, supposedly last week, based on the news, there was going to be a meeting of the leaders of three countries, and they were going to solve the sovereignty, sovereignty or lack of sovereignty, and obviously I'm talking about US, Russia and Ukraine. Thus far, I don't see any meeting that's going to happen. Now, who knows? I don't have a crystal ball. But So what's self serving and what is for the benefit of all people

Alex Ferrari 1:02:04
Before we close up. Dr. Backman, you've done so many past life regressions. I have to ask, how far back Have you gotten? Have you been to Atlantis? Have you been to lemaria? Have you been to something else? What? What are the what are the most interesting stories that you have heard about how far back we go?

Dr. Linda Backman 1:02:26
Well, I've certainly regressed clients who went to the cultures of Lemuria and Atlantis so and what I love about the work that I do is I learn something every single time, but I've regressed clients back to prehistoric times when people lived in caves and sort of lived hand to mouth, and it was very simple culture. So because I also work with interplanetary souls, I learned about the development of planets and star systems and some of the cultures in these locations. So it's hard to say how far back, you know, it's it's hard to, you know, put a number on it, because we're talking about souls and we're talking about life here on Earth, but we're also talking about life elsewhere.

Alex Ferrari 1:03:22
So what out of all of the past life regressions that you've seen, which is the one, which is a story, which is the the past life that you were just like, Oh my this. This blew me out of the water, you know? Was it Atlantis? Was it on another planetary system? Was it another culture? Like, what was the one that really just, oh my god this is amazing!

Dr. Linda Backman 1:03:42
You know, there are many, but what kind of what occurs to me, Alex, to share is my own experience about six, eight months ago, co leading a group to Egypt and being in the king's chamber in the Great Pyramid. And a lot of people talk about the king's chamber in the Great Pyramid. Our group had a two hour private visit, and getting in, getting into the king's chamber, is through a very narrow shaft. It, it is not, I don't know if you've been there or not, but you know you have to pay attention to where you're putting your feet. You have to be bent over, and there's some narrow spaces, and so it's a commitment, is my point, to do that. But once you come into the king's chamber, it is huge and vaulted and a sizable stone, open stone room with a sarcophagus that is empty and but the energy in that room the initiatory, you might say, port. Yeah, best way to put it would be a portal to a higher connection. Is profound. And and for many of our group, they were spontaneously remembering past lives. Many were being pushed to make changes in their life, because we have these locations on the planet that are, you know, fairly old, and sit on old Not, not just the structure, yes, the pyramid is an old structure, but sin on land that was intended for that structure, we're tapping into wisdom that has existed for longer than we probably know. So I found that to be an amazing both individual experience for me, but group experience,

Alex Ferrari 1:05:38
Beautiful story. Now, then I'm going to ask you a few questions. Ask all my guests, what is your definition of living a fulfilled life?

Dr. Linda Backman 1:05:45
Boy, good question. Living a fulfilled life, I would say, would be following the sole agreements I made for current life, and I would tag on to that and not being afraid of the tough stuff, because the tough stuff, the emotions that are tough, the maybe health issues or people that are tough, look for what the purpose is and stick with it. And that would be living a fulfilled life.

Alex Ferrari 1:06:23
If you had a chance to go back in time and speak to little Linda. What advice would you give her?

Dr. Linda Backman 1:06:27
Yeah, I mean, I feel it. Let me see if I can put words to it. You know, I would say to little Linda, you may think you're just one person in a sea of of many, many people on the planet, hold fast to believing in yourself. Hold fast to knowing you have not a purpose, but purposes and that will be shown to you. Don't, don't give up.

Alex Ferrari 1:07:01
And what advice would little Linda give you today?

Dr. Linda Backman 1:07:04
That disconnect Linda, little Linda would say to today's Linda, that disconnect you had with a couple of close loved ones when you were when you were a child, is also purposeful, and again, if you stick with it and trust, you'll learn the meaning and it will help you to grow.

Alex Ferrari 1:07:30
How do you define God or Source, or the Divine?

Dr. Linda Backman 1:07:33
That high frequency energy source comes forward at times in regression, source is a highly evolved group soul that agreed to do what they Could to guide humanity, honor love, honor compassion and know that even you as a single soul is important and can serve the aiding of humanity with the guidance of source. What is love? Love is purity. Love is what source desires for us to have for ourself and for all other living things.

Alex Ferrari 1:08:26
If you could ask God or Source one question, what would it be?

Dr. Linda Backman 1:08:30
You know, it's interesting, Alex, when you ask that, the first thought is, what do I need to be doing that I'm not doing? And then quickly, I sort of renege on that question, because it doesn't feel like the the right question. And I would just say, support me, and I will do my very best to make the best human and Soul level decisions I can.

Alex Ferrari 1:09:08
And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

Dr. Linda Backman 1:09:12
To grow and evolve the community of humanity?

Alex Ferrari 1:09:17
Beautiful answer. And where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing

Dr. Linda Backman 1:09:21
My website and so web address is Raven. Raven, like the bird. R, A, V, E, N, heart, like the heart in your chest. Center, ravenheartcenter.com.

Alex Ferrari 1:09:33
Great! And everything's there. Your books and everything else.

Dr. Linda Backman 1:09:37
Yeah, absolutely.

Alex Ferrari 1:09:38
And do you have any parting messages for the audience?

Dr. Linda Backman 1:09:41
Trust your gut, trust your intuition and your guidance, and know that you always have support and guidance from a spiritual guide.

Alex Ferrari 1:09:54
Linda, it has been such a pleasure talking to you. I feel like I've gone through my own past life regression in this conversation, but I. Appreciate I appreciate you and everything you're doing to help awaken humanity and this planet. So thank you again.

Dr. Linda Backman 1:10:06
Thank you, Alex, for having me. It's been a pleasure.