Canada’s TOP Channeler REVEALS CRITICAL Shift in Humanity’s FUTURE! with Karen Bell

Karen Bell 0:00
Don't make it harder than it needs to be. Just ask that question, and rather than listening for the answer, feel for the answer. The biggest fears that humans have are, you know, fear of death and that pain of loss, where they've lost somebody. Sometimes the purpose is to create so much difficulty that there is an attitude or perspective or an energy of surrender.

Alex Ferrari 0:35
I'd like to welcome to the show Karen Bell, how you doing Karen?

Karen Bell 0:38
Hey, thanks so much, Alex for having me. I so appreciate it.

Alex Ferrari 0:41
Yes! Thank you so much for coming on the show. I am so looking forward to to hearing your your story, and also having a conversation with Sarai later on in our conversation the entity channel. So my very first question is, I always ask my channels, what was your life like before this insanity that turns, oh my god, life upside down, which is channeling.

Karen Bell 1:02
Yes, definitely turned my life upside down. However, it took place over the course of many years, so it wasn't like for me. Anyways, it wasn't like a night and day flipped me upside down, type of experience. But about 20 years ago, is how it all started. And I was working as a makeup artist at the time, and I was really happy in that job. It was artistic, it was creative, and it was fulfilling. But what I started to notice as I was doing makeup on people was that I would have what I know now are these psychic impressions. I didn't know at the time what was happening, but I would be aware of things about them that they didn't tell me verbally, right? And what was also interesting is that even if they mentioned someone in their life, like a spouse or a child or a pet, even if they mentioned the first name, I would also receive impressions. So I would just be aware of things about them and about their life that I didn't you know, that I shouldn't know. So that is what sparked this whole journey for me. And so it started. I became just really interested in psychic phenomena, intuition, psychic development. And so I went to the bookstore, as you do when you become interested in something. And I just bought, as I'm sure you can see behind me, I just bought a big stack of books on psychic development. I just started reading about it. I went to some workshops, you know, I took some classes, and so I started to realize, like, this is a thing that was happening to me, you know, I didn't consciously, you know, decide, but it was just, this was what was happening to me. And around that time, to just kind of out of the blue, there was a man that came up to me at church that I didn't know very well at all. I knew his first name. That was it. He just came up to me one morning, kind of gave me a hug to say hi, and grabbed me by the shoulders and just said, I just want you to know that you're very psychic. And then he walked away. So that was like all these things were happening around that time. And by the way, I didn't know anybody that was into this, so it was really uncomfortable for me, because I just, I did feel kind of crazy. I didn't want to tell anyone about it, right? So that was about 2005 2006 and I decided to do this little experiment for myself, which was I would give readings anonymously. So I put an ad on Kijiji. It was Kijiji at the time. That was the classifieds. I don't think I gave my real name, but I would just be connected with people, you know, Free Psychic Reading, intuitive reading. And so I would call them up on the phone, and I would just give them a reading for free. And it was more for me to see if this was a thing. Is this real, right? And so I was amazed to find that there was accuracy, more accuracy than inaccuracy. And so that really was what got me on this journey. Then over time, that transformed into more mediumistic experiences, meaning I was interacting with people's loved ones on the other side, and I was a whole new a whole new thing, right? So just when I thought I was comfortable with just being a little bit more intuitive than the average person, then I started to have these mediumistic experiences. So I started studying that. I started going to spiritualist church, and over time, over the years, that evolved into the channeling that I'm doing now. So in a nutshell, that's how it started.

Alex Ferrari 4:12
So let's go back to the mediumship aspect. So when you started doing the mediumship, do you see entities in the room, or do you just hear them coming in?

Karen Bell 4:21
I'm more clairvoyant, so I do see them clairvoyantly. But there's two types of clairvoyance. So there is a type of clairvoyance where people see with their eyes in the room, but the more common form of clairvoyance that people don't realize that they are actually clairvoyant is the type of clairvoyance where you see things in your mind's eye. So the way that the mediumship happened initially was, I mean, the first time it happened, I was at church again, right? And I was sitting beside someone as we went into the meditation during the church service. In my mind's eye, I clearly saw a woman, right? And she started communicating. So I did start to hear, you know, she said, I'm Scott's mom. She he has my ring. All these details. Else. And so that it was just kind of like a dream, like experience. But when I came out of the meditation, he was sitting next to me, and so I said, Hey, Scott, can I run a few things by you? You know, Is this accurate? And it was. And so those experiences started increasing. And again, I was uncomfortable with it. At first. I was like, Oh, what is happening. And I was so very lucky to find a spiritualist church, because in spiritualism, mediumship is just normal, right? They don't think anything of it. It's part of the church service. They have classes, they have workshops, they have development classes. So when I started going to a spiritualist church, it was such a blessing, because I didn't feel weird anymore about it. I felt like, okay, I can, I can study this, I can pursue this, I can explore it. I can, you know, and it gave me, over the years, it gave me confidence.

Alex Ferrari 5:51
You found your people, essentially, in that church,

Karen Bell 5:53
I found my people, yeah, I found the place where it wasn't. It was actually more strange not to be a medium in this church I was at, yeah. So it was more strange if you weren't having psychic experiences, if you weren't mediumistic, that was actually more strange than if you were. So I found a tribe, essentially. And it's it started to, you know, I realized this is what I'm most passionate about. This brings me joy. I'm so I get so excited about it, right? And so it was liberating, because I could pursue it without any fear.

Alex Ferrari 6:23
So when at first, but I always like, I have to ask the first time you start hearing Uncle Bob come through. I got before the spiritualist church. I mean, psychologically, how do you I mean, you seem like a pretty, pretty grounded person. You know, you don't seem like you're you're up in the air. You seem like a pretty grounded person. This is not something you grew up with or anything like that. So when you start hearing Uncle Bob come through, yeah, yeah, you know, you know, my key is inside the drawer, that's where he'll find the inheritance. Did you just go what is happening? And was it on all the time? Is there an open and closed sign for you? Or do they just show up? Like, like, um, like, I always use this Whoopi Goldberg and ghost when they're just like, yes, showing up constantly.

Karen Bell 7:14
I did have an experience like that. Whoopi Goldberg and ghost. I did have an experience like that. I'll tell you about that in a moment. I did feel kind of crazy at first. I did question myself at first, but what really was a powerful experience was if I had the courage to share with the recipient, to share with the person, what I was receiving about their loved one, it was so incredibly healing for that person. You know, if there was accuracy to what I was saying, I would just see tears start to flood their eyes immediately, and it was so healing for them to know that their loved ones haven't gone anywhere, that they're still here, that they're still around, they still see them. So I think that's what was so powerful for me, and made me feel like, okay, yes, I feel like, this is unusual. This is strange. Yes, I went through a period where I questioned myself about it. But this is healing for people. This is powerful. Like the two most biggest fears that humans have are, you know, fear of death and that pain of loss, where they've lost somebody. So if you you can use your mediumistic abilities to soothe those two, you know, pains, I guess, of the human experience, I felt almost like a responsibility that I needed to explore this and move forward with it, the Whoopi Goldberg experience happened. You know, it wasn't on all the time. To answer your question, however, this is a really good point to understand about psychic ability, is that you'll notice it more whenever you're in a calm state, so whenever you're relaxed, whenever you're calm, people notice that when they're driving, for example, or having a shower or do something where they're calm and relaxed, this is when your abilities and your interactions with your loved ones take place. So I noticed that it would happen. You know, that first time at church I was meditating, it happened when I would be at yoga in shavasana pose, right when I was really relaxed. There was one time though, I was at a party, and so I was interacting. I was just having conversation with someone at the party, and I could kind of feel his mother around. But it was one of those moments where I was like, Oh, I don't want to say anything. This is just going to be weird if I say something in this environment. So I didn't say anything. Anyways, I got home that night and I had that exact same experience as whoopee in Ghost where I couldn't sleep because the spirit, the mother of this man, was there, kind of like, This is everything I want him to know, you know. So what I did was I got up, I took notes, you know, I wrote everything down, and then once I wrote everything down, I was able to fall asleep. And then I got in touch with him to give him the information the next day.

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Karen Bell 10:56
So that was my Whoopi Goldberg experience. I think though when you're mediumistic, you really do have to learn boundaries. So you have to learn that it's okay to say, Hey, I'm trying to sleep or I'm busy doing something, right? Can you come back at a time when you know, if it's it's better for me, you have to learn that you have the right to do that. Because when people first start opening up to this, it's like they don't realize that they have the power to, you know, turn it on and off, basically. And that's a really important it's a really important thing to notice, because you don't want to be on all the time. You know, I was at Disneyland last week. You don't want to be open when you're in like, crowds of people, right? You don't want to be on or open when you're with a ton of people, because it'd be so overwhelming for your system. So you do want to learn to just open and close, open and close.

Alex Ferrari 11:47
Were you ever afraid during these times? Like, like, I mean, just like we all seen movies, we know, the evil, the, quote, unquote, evil spirits, or what's coming in, or, damn, you know, like, dark entities. Did you ever fear of that? Any of that?

Karen Bell 12:03
So here's the interesting thing. And so it's been almost 20 years now, and I have never been afraid, not once. And so the way that I feel is that, the way that this is portrayed in our media, you know, when you see these shows, these movies, you know, even on I don't know if it's the Discovery Channel, I'm not sure, but there's these movies that are ghost hunters, Ghost Hunters and the haunting and all that. Oh, sure, I'm not saying that that's, you know, you know that doesn't exist. But I personally have never been afraid. I've had experiences where I feel more afraid in the presence of human beings, like physical people, you know, saying I've not had that experience with spirits, yeah, I mean, I remember this so clearly. I was, you know, driving on the highway, and I stopped for gas, and so I'm getting my gas, and I see this man walk from his car to go pay. This is probably a couple years ago, and I felt such blood curdling fear in that moment, something about his energy. I've never felt that with the spirit world. I've only felt love and peace and compassion. And you know, great love really is, is what I've experienced with the spirit world. I've never been afraid. And even with our guides and guardians, you know, when it comes to channeling, they're here to help us. They're here to support us. They're not here to hurt us.

Alex Ferrari 13:24
Now there's a big jump between psychic and medium. And from my understanding, psychic medium is pretty much the same. You can't you have to be a psychic to be a medium, but you don't have to be a medium to be a psychic. If one,

Karen Bell 13:37
Yes! So true. Yes. Good.

Alex Ferrari 13:42
So but then that goes into channeling. Channeling is a whole other world, almost, yeah, it's in the same ballpark, but it's on the other side of the field to say the list. So how did that? How did you first have an entity come through, and how, what was that feeling like? Because at this point, yeah, you're a seasoned psychic medium. So how did you know? Hey, this isn't Uncle Bob anymore. This is something else.

Karen Bell 14:07
Yeah. So the interesting thing about that was that I had it here's here's the story that'll help you understand why I feel like this was all meant to be. Because when I was first studying mediumship, it was when my son was really young. He was only about three at the time, I had one week out of the whole year where I had it off. My husband was going to take him somewhere, and I had this dream of going to the Omega Institute, right? It's like, I'm going to go to the Omega Institute in New York, and I didn't care what was on. Didn't matter to me. I'm just going anyways. Interestingly enough, the workshop that was on that week was trance mediumship, trance mediumship. And so I was like, I'm going to that. That's what I'm going to take. And so my journey with mediumship really was kind of on this, this borderline, this subtle borderline between mediumship and channeling, because I really feel like with channeling, you have to be in an altered state, right? With mediumship, that. Altered state is is present, but it's not as extreme as what you need in channeling. So as I started studying trance mediumship, I started becoming better at shifting my state to interact with I was just doing it for, you know, for the spirit world. But what happened as a few years went by is that I went through a rough time where I was experiencing just a lot of anxiety after having my son, a lot of postpartum anxiety, and I went to the doctor about it, and of course, they tried to prescribe medication. I was like, Oh, I don't really feel good about that. My intuition was like, Oh, I don't feel, you know, it doesn't feel right. So I was tuning in for myself and asking, you know, my higher self, my soul, you know, is there anything else that we can do to help ease this without medication? And the answer came back immediately, meditation. But you gotta get more serious about meditation. You have to meditate every day. Up until then, I was just, you know, here and there, meditating. So I started meditating every day, and that's when, within, I would say, about three months, I started to be aware I would meditate very early in the morning before anyone else was up. And I started to become aware of this presence, or this energy on my left hand side to me, it just felt like a blue ball of light. I didn't really recognize it as a being. At first, it was just a very gentle presence that when it was there, I felt so much peace and bliss and harmony. So that's how that started. And so as that progressed, as I became more familiar with that energy, I realized, Oh, this is a being. This isn't just a, you know, an orb. This is a being. And it felt so different from my interactions with the spirit world. It had this cosmic feeling to it. And so as the months went by, as I stuck with my meditation, I started to receive, kind of, like, these little downloads of just very brief transcripts, like, just like maybe a couple paragraphs of information. So when that came through, I would write it down, and that became my first transcripts for my YouTube channel, actually, although I didn't, I wasn't, you know, out of the broom closet at that time saying I was channeling. But I would take these little transcripts, and I would just, you know, make a video out of it, a short, you know, 60 seconds. And that's how it all began. Over time again, more months go by and I'm starting to lead a meditation every week for my community. I just thought of that idea. Thought this is a great idea. I'm still interacting with that being in my meditation, but I'm not realizing that there's any connection here. As I started to lead these weekly meditations, and as I started to shift my state again into that, you know, altered state of consciousness, one week, she started speaking through me as I was like, Oh, okay. I don't think anyone on the call knew, but me, I was like, Oh my gosh, I was totally channeling. That was not me speaking. That was another, this other energy that I've been interacting with. So that was, you know, only early 2023 that the, you know, the vocal channeling started. But it was, I can see now, as I look back upon the last 20 years how it's been this very gentle, subtle progression, you know, leading me up to this point. So it's not something that you really want to jump into. I don't think right? I think it takes a lot of toll on your physical body and your energy body, and so I think it's something that you know you need to be guided into, you need to be led into, right? But it's been a really interesting journey.

Alex Ferrari 18:25
It isn't like you had to you were being primed. Your nervous system was being primed to handle that's kind of the kind kind of energy, which is what I've heard as well. Like it generally, a big entity won't come in. That energy won't come in until your body is ready. You've done enough meditation, you've done enough and you were kind of working with your psychic mediumship and building the tolerance to handle that kind of frequency correct?

Karen Bell 18:50
Yeah, 100% I don't think the physical body could handle it. And even my first few months of channeling. So last year, I had a mineral deficiency. I was I would channel and then I would be so tired I'd have to kind of chill out for the rest of the day. It's only been in the last, I would say, six to eight months where I'm like my body's starting to acclimate to it, where I don't feel, you know, like I'm being depleted from it. Because it is like a big broadcast that comes through, that people pick up on. So there's the words that come through, which are beautiful, but the broadcast that comes through is actually even more powerful and more influential to people.

Alex Ferrari 19:26
Now I have to ask you, when you started to come out of the broom closet, as you said, let me use that from now on, the broom closet, not just the closet, but the broom closet, which is awesome when you came out of that closet and started to do this publicly, not for friends and family, not like absolutely, hey guys, I put the shingle out. I'm a psychic medium, and then I'm also a channel as well. Yeah. How did the people around you, your your colleagues, your friends, your family deal with that? Because, as I always say, This clears a room if you're not in the right room.

Karen Bell 20:01
100% Yeah, 100% it clears a room. Um, yeah, my, I mean, it all transformed. It didn't transform overnight, I would say, my circle of relationships, but it did transform. I am so lucky to have parents and sister family that are supportive and open minded, and there's actually been, like, a strange interest in mediumship in my family, like my grandma loved mediums and my aunt loves mediums. When I was a kid, my mom had this series of books by white eagle, which I didn't realize at the time, that was a spiritualist channel. So I didn't even realize that. So I'm so grateful, because in terms of my family, I had so much support, and they didn't really, you know, it wasn't a big deal. I think I probably made it more of a big deal than it was, um, you know, in terms of my friends, I did notice that my friend groups shifted, right? I started, but it wasn't anything super dramatic, luckily, because I think that would have been painful, it was more of just a gentle realizing, that realization that, okay, this friendship doesn't resonate so much anymore, and then new friends would come in that were of like resonance. So it was kind of this gentle unfoldment. And I think again, when I found the spiritualist church and started getting involved in it, it wasn't as scary, because all of a sudden, you know, okay, I have this group of people where this is normal, so let me spend time here. Let me spend time with them. But I would warn people that this, you know, if you're starting to explore this, you know, you just like you said, there will be a shift in your external reality. I think, though it feels it's so painful not to be authentic, right? So I think it's more painful to be inauthentic, right? And you just want to be your true self. You want to be your authentic self, and then let those relationships start to reorganize around you, and let the universe bring to you people that are on your wavelength, that that think it's cool. So right now, I feel like I have a good amount of people that think it's cool. And I'm sure there are some people in my life too who think it's strange. But, you know, I'm cool with both of that. It's okay. I have to just be authentic in my own self,

Alex Ferrari 22:16
Right! And it's, it sounds, and I've had, I've heard this story from many other channels and psychic mediums. You've had a very, it seems to be, from what you're telling us, a very smooth journey in regards to this. It doesn't seem very abrupt, it didn't seem very painful. You weren't shunned from the community. You felt all like you found you found your your way pretty nicely. And I just want to make sure everyone you think you kind of included to this. This is not the every person journey. If you're going into this world, you have a very beautiful, beautiful journey into where you are today, where there's many that are. It's scary, it's rough, it's alienating. You know, you question your not only you question your sanity, you question your choices in life, all this kind of things. And to a much, much lower extent, I've had to deal with that just opening up the show at a very, very, very, very lower, much, much lower, because I'm not putting myself out there like you are I'm talking to but even then, you know, yeah, friends and family are just like most. I'm going to say most of them are, like, curious as all hell, and many of them are very excited. And when there's no one around, they'll go, so the channeling, is it real? And go, yeah, man, there's a lot. I always say there's a lot easier hustles out there to try to channel publicly for people. I mean, there's a lot easier ways you can hustle people than channeling or,

Karen Bell 23:46
Yeah, it's kind of terrifying to be out as a channel sometimes, right? So, like I, you know, a few years ago, I had a an amazing online metaphysical shop, right? That's before my son was born. That's what I was doing. It's a lot easier than what I was doing than what I'm doing now, right? In terms of, you know, I'm just, you know, in my own space, making jewelry and and shipping it. I'm, you know, I don't have to deal with any skeptics or critics or judgments or any of that YouTube comments, or YouTube comments, exactly right? I know.

Alex Ferrari 24:21
Which are always fun, aren't they? Oh, they're so much fun.

Karen Bell 24:24
Yeah. I mean, I've got to the point where you know, it's, it's, it's actually a gift, because what you realize with the YouTube comments is that it's very clear that what people think of you isn't about you at all. Because if it was, it would be consistent, right? If it was about me, then it would be consistent, but it's totally inconsistent. You have people who think you are put you up on a pedestal, and think you're incredible. You have people that are saying you're evil, you're the devil, you're going to burn in hell. And so that's not about me, because it's so inconsistent that they're, yeah, they're projecting their. Um, their, you know, belief system on programming as, yeah, as someone who's, I guess, a public figure or in the public domain. And so I, you know, I'm so grateful, actually, that this all unfolded later in my life. Because 20 years ago, I would have probably been devastated. And now I think that the comments are hilarious, right? I just think, well, that is, that's very cute that you are writing that on my YouTube channel. But you know, whatever you want to think is fine,

Alex Ferrari 25:29
100% if this would have happened to me in my 20s, I would have been going after every single person who wrote a comment like I would have been attacking back and all this kind of stuff. And I did have a small about a little bit of that with my films when I was a filmmaker, but I got it all out of my system. When people critique to you and like, oh, this or that and this or that, it has nothing to do with you. It's always about them. It's yeah, it's always about them. And, you know, unless it's something very kind and just very like you've changed my life, you helped me in a tough time. That's different. But we're talking about, you know, you're the devil, which, by the way, you and I are obviously the devil, and the demons are coming through the demon, the demon Sarai, should be coming any second now,

Karen Bell 26:16
Into that will love this,

Alex Ferrari 26:18
Which, by the way, that that demon is a horrible at her job or its job, because all it does talk about is love and peace and help oneness. It's a bad demon. Bad

Karen Bell 26:28
I know it's so funny, because if you feel the energy behind it and you hear the message, it's like, okay, how can this be evil when it's trying to help you in your life, right? This is information and energy that's trying to be of assistance to you. So

Alex Ferrari 26:44
Yeah, and if it's anything that's outside the programming that is the basis of their foundation in life, it just they people get very defensive there.

Karen Bell 26:53
Yes, yeah, 100% I've witnessed that. Yeah, I witnessed that many times.

Alex Ferrari 26:59
But, would you agree, though, that there is this shift going on in consciousness? I mean, this show is a very good example of that, that there is yes, as many people who watch this and are enjoying this around the world, says a lot about the level of consciousness that we're witnessing right now, as opposed to five years ago, as opposed to 10 years ago, you know, because you were in this world, even tiptoeing back then, it was very different,

Karen Bell 27:26
100% I mean, I remember, and this is strange to think about, but when I was a teenager, when I was 14, 1516, I think I was about 15 when the book came out, but, but I was fascinated with this book called Bringers of the dawn, which is a Pleiadian channeled book by Barbara Marciniak. And how is very strange to, you know, have this, you know, channeled text from a star being basically. Now, I think people are starting to understand maybe that, you know, we're not alone in this universe, and that, you know the nature of dimensionality, that what what we can see in this physical reality is really a small sliver of what exists. And so there are these beings around us that we can learn how to interact with them. And yeah, they're they're here to be of assistance. So I think the fact that people are interested in that information reflects a shift in consciousness. But it's hard for people to always acknowledge that when there's also, you know, the the existence of so much atrocity and chaos and conflict as well. But you know, it's, it's, I've heard it described as kind of like these labor pains, right? When a woman has a baby, she goes through labor, and there's a lot of difficulty in that. And so this birth of a new world, this birth of a new consciousness, there's also the presence of that difficulty in darkness at the same time. And it's part of it too. It's part of it too.

Alex Ferrari 28:54
I don't know about you, but everything that's ever happened in my life that has been in in the quote, unquote, negative space is my greatest learning. So it's the time I learned the most. I generally don't learn when I'm winning all the time.

Karen Bell 29:07
100% Yeah, for sure,

Alex Ferrari 29:10
I would. I don't get me wrong, I like the winning. It's a smoother ride. I rather not have to have, you know, things I have to struggle with. But when you do it's, I use the analogy of the of the way of going to the gym. You know, you you struggling. You're literally tearing your muscle fibers to challenge them with a weight to grow so they can grow a little stronger, to lift that weight easier the next time. And that's all we do in life, constantly. And if you don't do that, you app, your app, your phy

Karen Bell 29:42
Atrophy, yeah.

Alex Ferrari 29:43
Atrophy thank you so much. Your atrophy, yes, your muscles atrophy, and you can't function in the world. So you act this whole existence, this incarnation is about struggle, overcoming struggle, moments of peace, moments of struggle. It's an up and down, a. Been down. It's never a rocket all the way up to the top, though it might've seen that time that way sometimes, and it's also never always gonna be bad either.

Karen Bell 30:08
Yeah, it's true. Things, things are, well, I've had the same experience, I think, a two most difficult, you know, times in my life, which were in my 20s, right? When all this started happening, I started went through a existential like, what is life? What is happening, right? I was depressed for many months because I just didn't understand what was going on. So that, and then again, the difficulty after I had my son. But those were the two periods of life, or the two experiences that were the catalyst for a greater awakening. So I wouldn't, I would never take those away from myself. Now, you know, looking back on it, I see, oh, I had to go through that for this to happen. I had to go through this for that to happen. And so I would never, ever, you know, take it away, because you see, in hindsight that it was all meant to be, and everything is serving your spiritual awakening, in my opinion. So even these difficulties that we're experiencing as a collective that is also contributing to our awakening as a civilization, I think

Alex Ferrari 31:12
Now you do private readings as well?

Karen Bell 31:15
I do I do private intuitive readings, and then I do private channeled sessions with Sarai as well.

Alex Ferrari 31:21
So out of all those sessions, which I'm sure are numerous at this point, was there any any session that really stood out to you that not only really shifted the world for the Cust, for the client, but also shifted your world as well by the knowledge or by the experience itself,

Karen Bell 31:38
Every single one, actually, but I more of a focus on the channeled sessions, because what I find in the channeled sessions, when Sir, I comes through, really what her dominant intent is, both when she's speaking to an individual or speaking to a collective, is to get the person or people to start to examine what she calls our mental construct, our mind, and start to examine that, distance yourself from it, and start to witness what you're believing that's not true or not serving you. And she has a beautiful, compassionate way of pointing those things out to people. And often times, when she points something out, this actually just happened this week, she pointed out, you know, a limiting belief that a woman was holding. And afterwards, when I was reflecting on the session, I realized, like, oh my gosh, I was holding the same belief that happens to me often. And so through the distancing, because we're so close to our mind, sometimes we can't always see, like, if what we're believing is true, we just we don't question it, right? So through that distancing, and through that gentle, compassionate pointing out of this is what's in your mental construct. This is the thought form or the belief that you've been hanging on to that shifts a person instantly when they see it, and it can create massive change, of course, because our realities are reflective, so they're just reflecting back to us where we're at, energetically, what we're holding on to in our mental body, our emotional body. So when that gets pointed out to a person, it it can be life changing, and the way that Sarai points it out is always with this energy of amusement. It's never with criticism. It's never with judgment. She has a saying that she brings through often, which is like, isn't that cute? So isn't that cute, that you are believing that right? So there's no judgment, there's no criticism, there's no regret. It's not you don't have to regret that you've spent 40 years believing that you weren't you know that you weren't good enough, because now you know this moment is a new moment, and you can see that that's not true. And you can shift your awareness. You can shift your mind in this moment once you begin to see it. So those epiphanies happen to me regularly. But I think the overall teaching, sir, is overall teaching is she wants to point out our true identity as a soul, right? Your identity is the soul. It's not the mind, it's not the body. These are instruments that your soul is using in this life to have this experience and to express itself and to evolve. So these are, these are tools your soul is using. It's not your identity. And so when you start to become aware of that energy or that presence, or that awareness, that is your true identity, and you start to shift into that, that this is who I am, that's a pretty life changing. You know, journey to go through doesn't always happen overnight for people, but it's amazing what happens when people have that realization. It's usually that smile that we see on the Buddhist face, right, right?

Alex Ferrari 34:32
Exactly, exactly You were saying something in regards to what people believe. And you know, going back to a little bit about people's programming. You know, when you see a movie like The Truman Show, which was such a beautiful movie, where there's a child born, if you haven't seen it, there's a child born into basically a reality television show, it's diabolical what they did. But the existence of that, that child's existence, was basically. Curated by all of these producers and directors and actors and everything. So it's programming was created completely around the world that it saw it had no idea about anything else other than what it was given. So when you talk to people who are at this point defending an idea, sometimes to the death. This is throughout history, to the death that no, the earth is flat. Galileo, what are you talking about? We shall throw you in jail, unless into prison, unless you change your ideas. And they and for, I mean, everybody walking around the planet at that time said, of course, we are the center of the Universe and the Earth is flat. You can see it. Look around you, you know. And then nowadays, any fifth grader knows that the Earth is not the center of the universe and that it's not flat. Sorry, Flat Earthers, that the Earth is not

Karen Bell 35:58
This isn't your channel.

Alex Ferrari 35:59
This is not your channel please turn away, um, but, but that it isn't flat, so it's a common knowledge now, but at that time, they would have killed people for challenging their base belief, because their their whole universe was wrapped around this idea. Ideas are the most powerful things in this reality, in my opinion, an idea can change people's worlds and people's for the good and the bad. Would you agree?

Karen Bell 36:29
Yes, 100% because if you think about it, an idea is a thought form. Really, it's or it's a perception. It's a way of viewing something. So when I'm channeling Sarai, most people are used to this idea or perception that this is who they are, this is who I am. I'm separate from all the other people. I'm separate from the earth, right? And they're also programmed with all of these mental constructs of this reality, dominant ones being who I am is what I achieve, or who I am is how much money is in the bank, or who I am is what my body looks like, all of these mental constructs that could be true, if you want them to be, but they're limiting, right? They're not. They don't really reflect the perspective that your soul is is seeing through. So to shift your your ideas from how your your little human, that's where I called it, the little human is seeing things into this more vast way of seeing things, this more vast perspective of how your soul is seeing that's kind of what happens when people begin to shift their identity from this human suit to the soul, right? Because along with the human comes all of these very solidified thought forms. You know that you're speaking of that people feel they have to defend themselves. You know, with their ideas, that's not who you are. You don't have to defend that identity. When you realize that's not who you are, if you're the presence, if you're the consciousness that is observing all that, that is experiencing that, that you can start to feel that energy, kind of in the background, that subtle presence in the background. This is why meditation is so very important. When you start to feel that presence, and you realize, Oh, I see how the mind is grasping on to these ideas. Doesn't want to let go, because that would mean the death of who I think I am, right? You start to let go of that, then this more vast presence starts to pour through and starts to express itself through you and as you and so it's life changing. It's life changing for people to realize that they don't have to live by those ideas that they've been programmed to live by maybe for 3040, years, like I don't have to be so focused on achievement, because that's what makes me lovable in this reality, right? That thought form is not true, then I can focus on, well, who am I really and what am I here to bring? Right? What am I here to deliver?

Alex Ferrari 38:55
It's almost as insane as you associating yourself with Mario while you played Donkey Kong, that you are

Karen Bell 39:02
Perfect analogy.

Alex Ferrari 39:04
You are Mario, and you're like, No, I must there's the princess, there's a giant gorilla throwing barrels. This is my world. And if someone says, Hey, man, you're just playing a game, and you're actually Johnny sitting behind you on a you're like, No, no, I'm more. That's the insanity. That's the insanity.

Karen Bell 39:22
It's a perfect analogy, and Sarai brings that through often of the analogy of a computer, where your body is the hardware, your mind is the software running on the computer, but you're the one sitting there at the computer. You're the witness, the observer. You can program the software if you want to, but you actually can't program a software until you realize that you are that observer, right? Because until that point, you just have whatever's running running. You have that Mario game. That's what's running in your awareness. So it's that's a perfect analogy.

Alex Ferrari 39:53
Thank you. Now we've been talking about Sarai for a while now. Can you bring her in? I say her, because it sounds like a female.

Karen Bell 40:01
She is a female,

Alex Ferrari 40:02
Okay just female energy. Okay, good. So can you explain to people what's your process for channel? Because every channel is a little bit different, so they understand how you're doing it.

Karen Bell 40:12
So what I need to do to channel is just to shift my state. So if you think of we're always shifting our state at, you know, through the day. So when a good example is when you fall asleep, you're starting to shift your consciousness into a different brainwave state. So I've just learned to do that through practice. So I shift my state into a more dreamy for me, it feels like a more dreamlike state. And then once that optimum state is reached, then she can start speaking. So people do sometimes notice a little bit of a difference in terms of her, the way that she speaks, the way that she pronounces things. So you might see a bit of a shift in my body, but there's always a, you know, a portion or percentage of me is still present. I experience it kind of off to the side, off to my right. So there's always a little bit of me in there, just more as a witness, but she I basically just take a few minutes to breathe and shift my state, and then she'll start speaking. All right, let's get to it. Okay, let's do it. So just give me a couple moments. And so we've very much been looking forward to this interaction, and we appreciate your participation in this interaction. And we'd first like to say that this interaction has been planned for many moments in time, many months in time, in terms of your reality. And what we'd like to speak about today, to begin with, is the future of humanity, the future of humanity. So as we begin to tune into this topic, that is the future of humanity, what we'd first like to say is that the quote, unquote future, whether you think of it in terms of your individual futures or your collective futures, as you tune into that, as you think about it, as you realize it, we'd like To, we'd like to express that what that is is a sort of collection of potential realities that are held in this energetic realm. So when we speak about the future, whether we're speaking individually or collectively, we can't say 100% that this is the future that is set in stone. We are speaking of potentials and vibrational realities. However, we are speaking to a certain group that is holding a vibrational frequency of awakening. And so we are speaking about the future of humanity as it relates to that wavelength or that resonance or that vibration. And so to those who are tuned in to this broadcast and to those who find this content interesting, we'd say that you are on an energetic trajectory of awakening, personal awakening and collective awakening, meaning that the quote, unquote, future of humanity as you will experience it, is a reality or a trajectory where the dominant state of being for humans on planet Earth is an awakened state, an awakened state of being. Now what does that mean? What it means is that in this awakened state, each being, each human, has this realization of their true identity as an emanation of source, as an emanation of this infinite intelligence. So they will no longer identify with the little human, the physical body, the mental body, even the emotional body. They will no longer identify with that as their identity. Instead, they will realize the truth of the of this reality, which is exactly what you mentioned to Karen in terms of playing a video game, in the sense that their true identity is this vast presence, this soul presence, this being of light that incarnates over and over again with the purpose of experience, expression and evolution, that's the true identity, and that this human being, aspect of the self is really number one temporary, and it really truly is the vehicle for the soul's experience and expression. And so it should be honored for what it is, but it is not the true identity. And so you are doing very important work in order to facilitate this particular energetic trajectory of awakening beings to who it is that they truly are. Now you've talked about and you've experienced this sort of pushback from time to time. The important thing is that you realize and recognize the solidity that you feel when you're on this particular path in terms of, this is your purpose, this is your passion. You are 100% tuned into that there's a solidity to it, meaning no one could. Talk you out of it. You are 100% sure that this is what you are here to do. Karen shares that as well with her work. And so there's this sort of a clicking in or a locking into place when one finally discovers their purpose and understands that all of the circumstances and events leading up to that point were there happened for a reason. There's an understanding that takes place a locking in. And so when you reach that locking in point, which we'll describe as a sort of click, then you know it. You know number one, who it is you truly are, and you know why you're here. We'd like to share with those listening that just because you haven't discovered yet why you're here doesn't mean that a divine purpose doesn't exist for you. It does, but sometimes you have to go through a sort of maze of experience to get to a certain point where you have you are prepared to fulfill the purpose that you came here intending to fulfill if that makes sense. So with all that in mind, we are so pleased to be here and to have an opportunity to to answer any questions that you may have.

Alex Ferrari 46:13
Thank you so much for being here Sarai, my first question is a question I get asked a lot in regards to our future, because it seems like there's so much turmoil happening in the world today, we're more aware of it than ever before, because of social media and our mainstream media. What does what do you see for us, not only for the rest of this year, but for the rest of this decade, in regards to our consciousness shift, in regards to struggles that we might be coming through, and also on the opposite side, the wonderful things that will be happening to us over the next decade.

Karen Bell 46:47
Well, we'd first like to describe, as we talk about, the struggles, we'd first like to discuss where the struggles come from. Because from our perspective, the struggles that you are experiencing, individually and collectively emerge from a place of being overly identified with thought forms, belief systems, perspectives, ideas that aren't true and that don't serve you, however you've been discussing in this conversation how humans get very attached to their thought forms. There are their ideas, their perspectives, and the reason they do is because they haven't yet come to the conclusion that that identity of the mental body, the physical body, that's not who they are, they haven't recognized or felt the presence of this more vast being that they are in truth. And so most of the struggles in your reality come from the perspectives of survival, struggle, scarcity, those types of lower frequency thought forms, and so we bring through a message that individually and even collectively, you don't have to quote, unquote, struggle. There will be challenges, yes, to help you evolve on your journey, but the struggle really comes from your state of mind, which is reflected in your state of being. So first of all, let's talk about that. Because when the topic of struggle comes up, many beings think that that struggle is inevitable. We would say, let's change our wording slightly, we'd say, perhaps challenges inevitable, but many of the struggles because they are based on your ideas and your perceptions, and those can be shifted in an instant. That type of struggle can be easily changed. And so we would say, for those listening, the first step in terms of navigating the next the end of this year and the next few years would be start to examine your ideas, your thought forms, your beliefs, and begin to notice where you might be causing or creating more struggle than necessary due to the thought forms that You're holding within your mind, begin to separate yourself from this mental construct. You are the observer. You're the vast awareness, the consciousness that is experiencing and expressing through this form, but that mental body that's not who you are. So we'll begin there. So here is the thing we cannot we cannot create a blanket statement that this is, this is going to be the experience for everyone, because each and every individual is having a very different experience based on their perception. Right? So we would say, if you want to sort of avert some of the struggle in your reality, then your first task would be to start to distance yourself from the thinking mind and release the beliefs, the thought forms that are not serving you, that are creating struggle. There will be struggle in the remainder of this year, in the next few years, for those who do not go about that process, and the reason for that is because they are still living from their conditioned. Programmed, limited consciousness, and so that creates struggle, that creates difficulty, that creates darkness. But what you may not understand is that that darkness, that struggle, that difficulty, has a purpose. Sometimes the purpose is to create so much difficulty that there is an attitude or perspective or an energy of surrender, meaning I just cannot force life anymore. I can't force life to go my way. There's I don't have any energy left to try to always be forcing things to happen that I think should happen to create a certain emotional tone as a result. And so when that surrender occurs, it is a moment of great beauty, because the soul, the true identity that you are, finally has the space to start experiencing, expressing, moving through, flowing through you, this vessel that is the human form. So we wonder, if that helped answer that question.

Alex Ferrari 51:05
It did. It did. Can I ask the next question is, how can we help others who are struggling with their spiritually awakening process?

Karen Bell 51:15
The most effective way to help others in their spiritual awakening is to be your fully awakened authentic self, because as you begin to release mental constructs that are not reflective of who you truly are, as you begin to allow a greater flow of who you truly are through this human instrument that is the human body, the energy body, as you begin to do that, you begin to sort of radiate and glow with an energy, or a frequency that is this higher frequency of source energy that becomes broadcast through you, and many of you underestimate the power of that broadcast, meaning you don't have to necessarily do something for another being that is struggling. You don't necessarily have to even use words or say something. Your state of being, your energetic broadcast, your resonance, is what is most powerful in terms of influence, you see. And then, if there are words that need to be said that would help that person, the words will be inspired, the words will flow through. But you first have to focus your own on your own state of being, your own emanation. What we'd also just like to tack on to this discussion is that one thing that many beings do when they are seeking to help another is that they lower their frequency to match the one who's struggling, because it's it creates a sort of energetic connection. However, it doesn't assist that person when you lower your frequency down to try to connect with that person, and it has a detrimental effect on your own energy system. So we would say our advice would be to seek to maintain your resonance in the presence of others and know that you are of greatest service when you are of your highest frequency, when you are channeling your higher self, soul self, true self.

Alex Ferrari 53:14
What would you say? What advice would you give people who are struggling within themselves during this chaotic time. How do they balance what's happening in this, in this reality, and their spiritual side of trying to awaken?

Karen Bell 53:28
Well, we would remind you, first of all that your reality truly is reflective, and so whatever energy, whatever resonance, whatever frequency you're holding within your energy body is is being reflected back to you in your physical reality. And that's a powerful place to start, because it enables a being to sort of take some responsibility for what is unfolding in their physical reality. You would understand as you look out upon all of the various experiences that beings are having, that not everyone is struggling. Some beings are struggling. Some are not. But what's true across the board is that everyone is experiencing the sort of resonance that is their dominant frequency, their dominant state of being, which is, of course, reflected or reflective of these thought forms, beliefs, perspectives that are held as the content of their consciousness. So we would say, for a being that is struggling, oftentimes, people begin by trying to take some sort of action to remedy their situation, and we'd say, step back a bit and start to soften and create some stillness, some silence. And in that state, start to examine again the contents of your consciousness. And perhaps in the beginning, just being somewhat playful about it, if you can reach that playful state in the sense. That you would say to yourself, Okay, so if reality is reflective, if my if my external reality is reflecting some belief system that I'm holding, then what might that belief system be? For example, if someone is experiencing scarcity or lack, then taking a moment to examine within themselves whether they hold beliefs, thought forms, perspectives, ideas that are on that frequency of lack. Is that true? We feel that when being start to make the connection between their inner realm and the external reality, that that will ease a lot of the suffering, because it will create a sense of empowerment, we'd say, a lot of the suffering and the struggle that is unfolding on your planet right now is because beings feel a sort of hopelessness or powerlessness, meaning they feel that they cannot create a change, whether that be individually or collectively, we would say no energy is always moving. You can always create, invite, invoke change at any moment in time. Every moment is a new beginning. So realizing you have the power to shift your state of consciousness first, and then realizing your external reality will reflect that as time unfolds.

Alex Ferrari 56:16
Would you explain the process of a dimensional shift in the terms of human understanding.

Karen Bell 56:21
Well, in our perspective, when you speak of the dimensions, what the way that we see dimensions, as the various dimensions are really different perspectives. So as you go up in terms of dimensionality, you experience different perspectives. So for example, we would say to you, in the higher realms, or the higher dimensions, the higher perspectives would be reflective of the universal truth that all is one. So that is how beings perceive reality or the universe from these higher dimensions. In this dimension at this time, the perspective is that things are or beings are separate. So the perspective from this dimension is separation. And then, of course, if you, if you go up slightly in terms of dimensionality, the perspective will be that everything is interconnected, right? So that's a slightly closer perspective to all as one. It's if it was a staircase, it's going up the staircase in terms of a shift in perspective. So each and every time you shift into a different dimension, you shift into also a different way of seeing things, a different perspective, so to speak. And so this spiritual awakening and shifting in terms of dimension has a great deal to do with shifting the way you see things, shifting your perspective.

Alex Ferrari 57:53
Now, what is the biggest challenges that humanity face during this shift in consciousness?

Karen Bell 58:00
We would say at this moment in time, there is a strong perspective that is obviously reinforced by the way that you experience this reality. There's a strong perspective of separation, right meaning, I'm over here, you're over there, and we are separate. And we would say when being start to have psychic experiences, intuitive experiences, they begin to realize that the only thing that could facilitate those experiences is a reality that is interconnected, where nothing is separate. So as beings begin to have more psychic experiences, as they awaken, we feel that's a great gift to humanity. Having those experiences, not because the being is quote, unquote, gifted or receiving spiritual gifts. It's more because it shifts the being's perspective into this awareness of interconnectivity. If you were holding the perspectives of interconnectivity, if you knew that you weren't separate from the beings around you, you're not separate from the earth, you're not separate from your reality. You are intertwined with your reality. It's part of you, right? If you were aware of those truths, if you had shifted your perspective into terms of those universal truths, then a lot of this struggle that you are experiencing, and a lot of the chaos atrocities that are unfolding on your planet, a lot of that would disappear, because much of what you experience in terms of challenge or struggle in your reality is due to the misperception of separation, if that makes sense,

Alex Ferrari 59:38
It does, it does with in the wake of this entire conversation about our spiritual awakening and the shift in human consciousness, what possibilities are opening up for humanity's future?

Karen Bell 59:50
Well, as we gaze This is why we began this conversation with the future of humanity, because as we gaze at the trajectory of humanity in terms. Of the timeline that you are on and that the beings listening and watching are on, we have great hope for this particular trajectory, because what we see when we tune into the future of humanity is an awakened civilization, a civilization where most beings are aware of who it is they truly are as emanations of source, as these beings of light, as souls, most beings are aware that that is their true identity. And then with that comes all sorts of these intuitive gifts. All of those gifts start to become come online, so to speak. So the gifts of intuition, the gifts of psychic ability, the gifts of mediumship, all of these cities or superpowers or supernatural abilities that are not supernatural at all. They are just a sort of side effect of awakening. It's a side effect of this perspective of the more subtle realms, the more energetic realms. So we see a civilization where that is prevalent. And so a lot of the struggle, the chaos, has dispersed in that reality, again, because you don't have this perception of separation, and you are, most of you in this reality are in resonance or in harmony with that vibration of source energy. And so you cannot do harm to another being when you are in the presence of that resonance, or when you are allowing that to flow through you, right? Because God or source or infinite consciousness, whatever you want to call it the vibration, the resonance that is most closely you know you would describe as unconditional love, that is the the vibration that is closest to source, in terms of being able to use words to describe it. So when you are in tune, in harmony with that vibration, then all of these difficulties, all of these challenges that are created from a lower state of consciousness, they simply cease to exist.

Alex Ferrari 1:02:01
So when you were saying the side effects of awakening, you're speaking of the yogic powers and yogis along the way of their spiritual enlightenment. Is that correct?

Karen Bell 1:02:12
Yes, that's correct. As you awaken spiritually, as you shift your vibration, so as you let us put it this way, as you awaken your resonance, your frequency shifts right so you are no longer the same being. You are vibrating at a very different frequency as you shift in terms of your state of being. Many of these, they're often called cities or superpowers. Many of these just start to emerge very naturally. They're of the again, the side effect of awakening and many, many beings listening and watching understand what we are saying. It's just that you live right now in a culture, civilization, or a society which is skeptical of these gifts, these talents, these abilities, there are many critics, skeptics, people who judge, and so although many listening and watching have had very powerful experiences of these abilities, many are not able to share them because they feel so self conscious. But the more beings come out of the broom closet, as you and Karen were saying, the more beings come out and begin to discuss openly what they are experiencing, then it's not so foreign, and so everyone can have an open discussion about it again. This is why your work is so important and so powerful at this time is just to have open discussions about what is unfolding and what is happening,

Alex Ferrari 1:03:46
And you have any final words for the audience Sarai?

Karen Bell 1:03:50
So we would say our final words would be to focus if you want to create great positive change in your individual reality or in your collective reality, there is one simple thing that you can do, and that is, focus on who it is that you truly are. Ask yourself, ask yourself in moments of stillness, moments of quiet. Who am I? Who am I really? Allow your Higher Self, your soul, your guys, your guardians, to start to surround you and bring you the answer to that question. Your whole life will change. Don't make it harder than it needs to be. Just ask that question, and rather than listening for the answer, feel for the answer. That is your homework that we leaving you all with. Ask, who am I? Who am I really? And then feel for the answer. And so, as always, we conclude every interaction with the greeting Sat Nam, meaning true identity. We see who it is you truly are. We are broadcasting that resonance to you in every moment in time. And so until the moment in time when you are holding that. Frequency. We say Satnam to you. So Satnam, on this day,

Alex Ferrari 1:05:05
How are you? How are you feeling? Are you now energized? Are you a little wiped out?

Karen Bell 1:05:13
I'm good. No, I'm really hot. I'm just like boiling, but I'm good. Yeah, I'm good. Thank you.

Alex Ferrari 1:05:19
Do you remember? Do you remember? Or do you kind of, kind of like, dream, like,

Karen Bell 1:05:23
It's a bit dream, like, I usually can remember. I usually can remember for about 20 30, minutes after the conversation, and then it just, you know, like a dream, you know, when you wake up and you remember your dream, and then it's gone. So that's why I'm so grateful for the recordings. I'm like, oh, that's what was said. But no, this morning, when I was just getting ready, I kept hearing future of humanity, future of humanity, future of humanity. So I was like, okay, Sarai, I think we're going to be talking about the future of humanity. And so she'll often just give me a phrase or a word, because that helps my human self feel like, okay, she's got it under control. She's prepared something to say, I'm not going to be left hanging with like, okay, they didn't show up this time.

Alex Ferrari 1:06:06
Have you? Have they done that to you? Have they been like, no shows?

Karen Bell 1:06:08
Never, no, never. That's never happened. But I mean that that was always the fear in media, right? Because, oh yeah, I'll do demonstrations at the church where I'm up in front of people. And so there's always this fear, like, Guys, are you with me? Like, are you going to show up? Because I'm always afraid I'm going to get up to the front and be like, I got nothing that's never happened, though that's never happened.

Alex Ferrari 1:06:32
Now, I'm going to ask you a few questions. I ask all my guests, what is your definition of living a fulfilled life?

Karen Bell 1:06:38
Oh my gosh, I would say my definition of living a full, fulfilled life is a life that is reflective of who it is you are. So what does your soul want to do? You know? What does your soul want to Why are you here, right? I think we get so caught up in again, the programming we think we need to do this or that, because we've been told that, and then your soul starts to come through and be like, No, I'm actually this is what I want to pursue, right? And you know that through what makes you excited or passionate, so when I'm following my passion and feeling, you know the energy of that, that's when I feel most fulfilled.

Alex Ferrari 1:07:12
Now, if you had a chance to go back in time and speak to little Karen, what advice would you give her?

Karen Bell 1:07:17
Oh my gosh, I would say relax. Chill out, relax sister, just chill out. Everything's gonna work out, right? Yeah, I don't know. I used to again. We talked about this before we hit record, but there's many years where I was like, What am I doing, right? Like, it's like, what is going on? I felt like I couldn't find my way, in a sense. And so, you know, from this point in time, it's like, oh, just relax like your Higher Self, your soul source, there's a there's a reason all this is happening. So just sit back and enjoy yourself. Enjoy the ride.

Alex Ferrari 1:07:51
How do you define God or Source?

Karen Bell 1:07:53
So I feel that God, Source is this energy that is unconditional love or presence, right? I don't think of it as a man in the sky, right? The way that Michelangelo or a sky daddy, it's not a sky daddy. It's more of a presence of Love, a presence of Love.

Alex Ferrari 1:08:18
Now, what is love?

Karen Bell 1:08:20
Well, I feel like love is really who we are, right? It is. It is God in a sense. I mean, that's, it's, it's kind of just goes back to that. It's this presence that we can attune to, and when we're attuned to it, we feel fulfilled, we feel joy, we feel bliss, we feel ecstasy.

Alex Ferrari 1:08:39
And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

Karen Bell 1:08:41
Oh, what is the purpose? Well, I'm going to bring Sarai in, because she I'm not going to channel, but I'm just going to share something that that one of the first teachings she shared, which is the three E's. So the 3E's are experience expression and evolution. So the purpose of life is experience expression and evolution. So I, I try to live by that, because it it resonates so deeply with me. So

Alex Ferrari 1:09:03
It does that's beautiful. That's beautiful. I haven't heard that one before. And where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing in the world?

Karen Bell 1:09:09
Thank you so much. Um, best place would be my website, which is intuitivekb.com, so if you go to my website, there's links to my YouTube channel and my Patreon community and my emails on my website too. So if anyone wants to send me an email, I'd love to hear from you. So intuitivekb.com.

Alex Ferrari 1:09:28
And do you have any parting messages for the audience?

Karen Bell 1:09:30
I'm just so grateful that for anyone who's still here after, you know, listening to this whole conversation, if you're still here, thanks for, you know, taking this time to tune in and listen. I really appreciate it.

Alex Ferrari 1:09:43
And I appreciate you for not only being on the show for everything you're doing to awaken the planet. So thank you again, so much.

Karen Bell 1:09:49
Thank you, Alex, thank you for having me. So much love.