NDE Explain Why God Doesn’t Care about Religion with Jason Janas

Jason Janas 0:00
Utter peace, and I knew exactly where I was, exactly where I was, and the thought came into my mind. It was an instant I was like, I'm home.

Alex Ferrari 0:09
The fear based stuff is the thing that really irritates me. You're born with original sin, because you can't be born perfect. You have to be you got to bring some baggage in. But I as the church, can clear you of that

Jason Janas 0:22
In that moment that we took that on, we created three things, fear, guilt and the ego. We fear we have abandoned God

Alex Ferrari 0:31
Because a lot of people watching this might have the exact same feelings that you do

Jason Janas 0:36
Right! And I'm sure there are, because a lot of us chose very difficult lives. And he didn't come to start any religion. He came to wake you up. Look, anything I can do, you can do and more. And I was having difficulty breathing, and I was waking up for the last couple of weeks with a taste of blood in my mouth. She says, Jason, if you lay down, you're going to die. Please don't lay down. It's brutal. It was the most excruciating pain I've ever been In. Dying was very painful.

Alex Ferrari 1:22
Now before we jump into this episode, if this conversation resonates with you, please like subscribe and share this with whoever you feel that needs to hear it. Your support helps us keep bringing this information out into the world and helps us awaken this planet. Thank you. I like to welcome to the show. Jason Janas, how you doing Jason?

Jason Janas 1:45
I'm fantastic. How are you Alex?

Alex Ferrari 1:46
I'm doing great, brother. Thank you so much for making the trip down to Next Level Soul Studios.

Jason Janas 1:50
Absolutely thank you again for having me. I'm truly honored. Thank you.

Alex Ferrari 1:54
I appreciate it, my friend. So we've been having a lovely conversation prior to the recording. So I was like, let's just start talking, because this is going to be fun. So you died,

Jason Janas 2:03
I do.

Alex Ferrari 2:05
So tell me no. So what you tell me a little bit about what you were, what was life like prior to your NDE, and then we'll go deep down this lovely journey that you went through once you died and came back.

Jason Janas 2:18
Sure, you know, as a young boy, I grew up in a completely, totally normal, you know, Midwestern town in Illinois, as a normal 1970s boy. You know, I my address. I didn't know it at the time was 1010, so I was that didn't dawn on me till later, but I grew up as just a Catholic kid. My grandparents gave me my religion because I don't know anything if my parents were religious at all. I never, some go to church. I never had any interactions with them in church. It was my grandparents that gave it to me. So, you know that Christianity was what I grew up on. So as a young boy growing up, that's what I was taught, and I believed truth of what I was being taught. Because, you know, why would your parents or grandparents lie to you?

Alex Ferrari 2:43
I know completely what you say,

Jason Janas 2:51
You know? So that's, that's the background that I had in that, you know, I had a very difficult life. I was abused as a child, so I grew up with that. I grew up with a lot of resentment, hate. I tried to save my sister from the beating, so I took more beatings for her. My My mother was a hardcore alcoholic, and it's, it was just an unpleasant childhood, so I became very angry at a very young age. You know, I learned how to cook early by the time I was five or six, because meals were irregular at times. So I learned how to cook from my grandparents. I learned everything from my grandmother. That's how I grew up. But I didn't realize that I was becoming more and more angry, right? God, clearly, doesn't love me, clearly, right? Because the struggles that I'm going through are, like, PhD level. Instead of having cookies and ice cream and all this fun, I'm being beaten and learning how to take care of things and learn how to clean and all of like, you know, I mean, I still had fun as a kid, and did, you know, riding bikes and going to the pools and stuff like that. But I was really in survival mode.

Alex Ferrari 4:02
Can I jump in here? Because this is something really, really important I want to kind of dive into before you continue. You were talking about that God doesn't love me anymore, right? There's so many people, especially Catholics. I was raised Catholic as you know that when things are when their lives are not going well, or if it's a consistent pattern of, like, my god, I was raised by abusive parents, or had trauma as a child, or something like that, or even as an adult, that things just keep having it, just keep pounding like life keeps pounding you, and you're like, I go to church, I do everything I'm supposed to do, and yet I'm not getting to where I Need to be or where I want to be, and and then you start getting angrier and angrier and angrier to the point where you're like, God doesn't love me anymore, which, as I say that out loud, is such a ridiculous concept, because he loves everything, right? He loves everybody. He loves everything because he made everything, right? There are no mistakes. There's no there's no there's no mistakes. Exactly. And there's not one, not one single waste, of a I mean, if you look at just nature's ecosystem, everything works. That's correct together, even though we might not see it right, but we but there is a system going on. So I just wanted to kind of bring that into the to the spotlight a little bit, because a lot of people watching this might have the exact same feelings that you do,

Jason Janas 5:21
Right! And I'm sure there are, because a lot of us chose very difficult lives. And the life of a chosen one or star seed, a light you know bearer, God asks us for very difficult missions, because you're the bringer of light in darkness. What does light do to the dark? It crushes it when it's on, right? There is no darkness. So the light bearers, our star seeds, are meant to do that, to bring the light into the darkness and crush it, be that love, be that beacon of light. When somebody sees you, they may not agree with your energy. Most people don't like me at all. I mean, when I was sitting in the airport, people just flew from where I was sitting. They want to have nothing to do with me. Why I'm a mirror. I'm shedding the light on their darkness, and they don't like it, right? They don't understand it. I do, but that's why I had that difficult childhood. But I didn't know it at the time. I just thought I was unloved, you know? And it became F more and more time it became anger, right? And then one morning, I was about 78 or 79 so I was about eight or nine, my grandmother woke me up to go to church, and I come on Chase. It's time to wake up. And she would, you know, and I kicked her hard, and I sat up, and I said, Don't you ever wake me up to go to church. Don't you ever God hates me. He doesn't love me. And she knew, and she started to cry. She's Chase. I said, Don't you ever, I'll take care of myself. God doesn't love me anymore, you know. And I mean, I was an altar boy. She, she took me out of public school, put me into Catholic school, so I read that Bible from cover to cover, and I knew I was doomed. You know, I had some sexual experiences as a younger person with, you know, a bisexual experience. I was an abomination to my father. Clearly, he hated me, the abuse and everything. So I was like, clearly, okay, I know where I'm doomed. I know where I'm going, and so don't you ever wake me up, right? And I had a very difficult life. I mean, robbing Peter to pay Paul throughout my entire life, two failed marriages, you know, a child that didn't love me at the time or didn't care about me. And I'm like, clearly God doesn't care, you know. And I know, and I guess I've accepted my fate, you know, because I believed in what I was taught. I believe that the Bible was God's very breath, His written Word, you know, because that's what Christianity shoved down my throat for years, of course, you know. And I choked on it, and I believed on it. And then April 2, of 2020 came, which profoundly changed my life and set me on this path of teaching that I will not stop. So what happened on that date? April 2 was the day of my death. I came home from this job I didn't like I made a sandwich, took a shower, made a sandwich, sat down. It was a bagel sandwich. I turned on the TV, and I was watching TV, and I took a couple bites, and also I threw up. And I'm like, that was the most wretched taste. It didn't even taste like eggs and the what I was eating. And I'm like, God, what was that? You know? And I was having difficulty breathing, and I was waking up for the last couple of weeks with the taste of blood my mouth, that's not a good sign, no. And I'm like, did I bite my tongue? My lips? No, nothing hurts, you know. And I'm like, and then I went to take another bite, and I coughed, and up came bright red blood. And I'm like, not, you know, when you cut your finger and it's dark red, this was pink. And I'm like, and I'm like, and I cough again. And I kept coughing, like every two or three seconds, and I filled up my plate full of blood, this pink blood. It was horrible tasting. I remember that I'm like, next thing I know, I'm going, I can't breathe, I can't breathe, and I'm starting to panic, like life is going on around you, and I'm actively dying. And I'm like, pan, and I grabbed my cell phone, and I'm trying to get a hold of my ex wife, and because she's a nurse, an RN, if anybody can help me, she could. And I'm like, I need you to answer the phone. She wouldn't answer the phone. And finally, on this, you know, fourth or fifth try, I was FaceTiming, what? And I had made it to the kitchen sink, because now I'm filling up the kitchen sink with this blood. And she's like, What do you want? And I tried to speak, and blood covered the phone. And I just remember her. One of the last things I remember was like, Jason. And I said, I don't feel good, you know, and I'm, you know, and I'm trying to breathe and, you know, coughing. And she goes, I said, I'm sorry. I'm gonna go lay down. And she said, Jason, if you lie down, you're going to die. And I said, I said, I don't feel good. I'm tired. I said, I'm just, I'm sorry to bother you, and I'm still coughing up this blood. She says, Jason, if you lay down, you're going to die. Please don't lay down. And I and I said, I and she hung up the phone, and that's the last thing. I'm like, wow, why couldn't our why couldn't our conversation? Patients be like that in our marriage, you know, and I was like, and next thing I know, I wake up in the hospital, and to the hospital, I She must have dialed 911, they came in, and they came in, but you were out. I was, have no clue of the ambulance or anything, and there was a tube down my throat, IV in the carotid artery. My hands and feet were strapped to the bed. I couldn't move them more than an eighth of an inch right? Stuff up my nose in a myriad of doctors. Now it's dark out. I have no idea what day it is, what what had taken place, how long I was gone or out, and I have these doctors trying, do you know, you know who are you? Do you know your name, and I'm, I can't speak, I can't even move my you know? And you like, Do you know where you are? Like, trying to answer questions, but I have a two inch tube, you know? Yeah. And I'm like, it's lovely when they do. That was the most brutal experience of my life. It was when you see actors going through this on stage, and they just jump up and they're, what, no, no, you don't do that. It's brutal. It was the most excruciating pain I've ever been in. Dying was very painful. I was drowning. Basically. My cause of death was acute respiratory failure, hypoxia, so I basically they pumped out 2.8 liters of blood from my lungs. That's 11.8 cups of blood. So I drown.

Alex Ferrari 11:19
So is this after you woke up or?

Jason Janas 11:22
This was at I woke up after, so I, when I was FaceTiming her, she hung up called 911, and I don't I must have passed out somewhere in either the kitchen or somewhere, I don't know. So she they came and got me,

Alex Ferrari 11:34
But you weren't dead yet.

Jason Janas 11:35
No, okay, so all I remember then was blackness, just black.

Alex Ferrari 11:39
Yeah, you were out.

Jason Janas 11:39
I was out, and I woke up in the hospital, and this is where the nd took place. What, when, I don't know, was, I'm assuming, a few days later, right? What had to be a few days later? So I said, you know, I was trying to say something, and I was like, she goes, You won't pull the tubes and stuff out. I and I said, you know, so I made this like, you want to write something, I'd write, I itch just, you know, because they were giving me fentanyl for the pain. Lovely. No, it wasn't. I know what you're saying the I, you know, when you see somebody in like a coma state, their mind is fully active, okay, you're, I mean, I was having horrific hallucinations. Or, you know, like I was being kidnapped and dragged and all these kind of, it was horrific. It was the most horrific experience of my life. So I'm, like, I itch, and I just started scratching my body. And they like, okay, he's not going to do it. And I just laid there. And i The moment I awoke, though, up in the left hand corner of where's the TV, and I didn't know that the ICU was room, so they put me in a different room, but right where that TV was, there was an undeniable presence. I could feel it, you know, and it was strong, and it was loving, and I just wanted to go there. And I kept trying to peek through the myriad of doctors. Then one day, a nurse came in and said, Jason, do you want me to turn on the TV for you? And I'm No, I mean, how do you tell somebody, somebody's standing there, there's somebody right there. Okay, they're gonna think I'm nuts, right? And I'm like, you know? And I just kept staring at the TV. And if I get emotional on you, because I am going to tell you exactly the way it happened, and I'm already feeling it. So the nurses were gone. Everything was gone, and they had finally taken the tube out, and the IV and stuff like this. And it was some like early afternoon. I don't know what day it was, and I'm staring at the TV. There's nobody around, and by this time, I was so lethargic, I had lost 75 pounds. Okay, so I was very weak. I couldn't move my hands very much, but I got up on my elbows, and I just began shaking uncontrollable because I had no strength. Now this is the first time Alex, since 1977 78 that I talked to God, I abandoned him. I threw him out like garbage. I threw Jesus out like garbage.

Jason Janas 14:06
I stared at that TV because that presence was there, and I just I called out to God. I said, Please don't let me die. Please don't let me die. I had no business talking to him, you know, with the things that I have done in my life, I knew I was unworthy of him. And I called out to him, and I said, Please don't let me die. I love you. I said I'd never stop believing in you, but I quit having a relationship with you, and I'm trying. I'm truly sorry. I said, I love Jesus. I said, I love you both. And I said, Please don't take my babies from me, please. And I'm feeling unworthy of him. And I said, please let me see them again. Please let me see them again. Because I knew I was still dying, something inside told me that I was not done with this, and I wasn't. And I said there was somebody in my life that which is a twin flame, but I won't mention her name yet. I said, Please don't take her from me. Please. Please, please. Let me hold her hands. Let me kiss her. Let me smell her breath. Let's make love again. And in that moment, I was at the top of the ceiling, and I was in constant and I could see everything around me, the nurse's station, all 30 other patients on ventilators, dying. Pain is gone. Pain is gone. I was young again. I was juiced, and I was vibrating at such a high frequency in constant this love and this light, and I knew that was God, that I that was there, wow, you know. And I was in constant this love, and I knew that I had done nothing wrong, and that I was loved. For the first time in my life, I was loved unconditionally. There was no if ands or buts, nothing. I was at peace, at utter peace, and I knew exactly where I was, exactly where I was. And the thought came into my mind. It was an instant I was like, I'm home, and I'm just looking outside, and I could see I was up on the like third or fourth floor. I could see the entire floor. I could see through the wall, so I was seeing through the wall, and I could see every blade of grass in the field, every blade of grass independently. I could see the serrations in each blade of grass. I could see the veins, and I could see the colors moving through and then they turned towards me and sent me all of this unconditional love. I could see all the trees souls, and it looked like Obi Wan Kenobi when he came back, he had the little halo right, this little white light around it, all their souls, and they were so happy to see me, and the colors that I was witnessing were just magnificent and beautiful. They just don't exist here in this realm. They don't. And I am just feeling this unconditional love flow through me. It was as warm as the sun, and it flowed through me like a river, right? And then the next thought that came in before I could get it formed, was like, what a beautiful day to die. Like it was absolute, like I have done it before. That's exactly what it was. It was just an absolute knowing that I had done this before, it was absolutely normal, and that was that. And then how long this took? I don't know. It could have been 10 seconds. It could have been five hours, right? Time ceased to exist, because time doesn't exist. And I felt another presence come to me, and my gaze, which isn't a gaze, because I'm looking down at a body on the bed that I had no love for, but it was like at 12 o'clock, because I was looking that way, and then all of a sudden, I still looking that way. It's hard to describe, you know what I'm saying, 360 degree vision, so I'm facing forward, and that's when Yeshua showed up, and I instantly recognized his energy, and he bestowed love upon me that it is unimaginable to anyone here. So I'm feeling Father's love. I'm feeling this love, and it's almost the best word to describe. It would be stifling. It was so much love, and I was adored unconditionally, and it was just the most profound and beautiful experience. And I'm thinking, I shouldn't be here, right? I, I, you know, I was lied to, right? So again, how long? How long this took? I don't know, but I'm, you know, then I felt Yeshua come up to me, and he What was my soul? Yeah, he placed his hands on me, very gently and loving. And they seemed so huge, and they were so warm. It was everything was warmth and love. And, you know, he played, and he guided my soul back. And then I felt him on my body. And then he late, gently laid me down on the bed, and I was out like a light, like gone. And then I woke up at how long again, I don't know, but a myriad of doctors shaking me, Jason, Jason, Jason, you know, we've been trying to wake you for hours. You know? What would it seem like? You know? And I'm like, and the presence was gone, and I'm like, I'm looking they're like, You okay? And I'm like, I can't tell them just what happened. I mean, what was that? What? What just happened?

Alex Ferrari 18:58
So were you? Were you dead?

Jason Janas 19:00
My body was,

Alex Ferrari 19:01
Your body was so they, when they say they're trying to wake you, is like, they right? You coded,

Jason Janas 19:05
Right! So just there, you know? And somehow, well, I came back, because they pushed my, my soul back into my body, and I woke up. And, you know, the doctors were there to bring in medical equipment and stuff and the like, are you okay, you know. And I'm like, Yeah, I'm fine. Well, where, you know, they were like, what happened? And I'm like, I can't tell you that, you know, I felt something. I knew that they would think I was nuts, and, you know, and all that. And I'm like, I need you all to leave. Are you all right? I said I'm fine. I need you all to leave. And I'm raspy voice because I can't really talk. I'm not taking any meds. I want you all out of the room now, and they all left, and I'm like, what was that? What happened to me? That's not the place that I should have gone to, right? And in that moment, you know, it, became abundantly aware that, you know, there is no heaven. There is. No hell. There is no good, there is no bad, there is no right, there is no wrong. Everything I was taught my entire life was a lie. And within that timeframe of whatever that you know, however long I was on the other side that was shown to me and given to me, I was one with everything. Within a trillionth of a second, I knew everything there was to ever know I am everything that has ever existed or will ever exist. In that moment, I became one with the Father. I became the light. I was the light. That means I became God. I am God. And when I realized that I was like, I have a mission I have. I have to let the world know that they have been duped, lied to horrifically, right? And sure enough, when I finally got back home, there was that nudge, you know, I got mad at father, and I was, this is a couple months later, because I'm still feeling this unconditional love, you know. And it was kind of an ease off process, you know. And I'm like, I'm shaking my fist. Look, you picked the wrong list. Look, pal, you picked the wrong person, right? Because I knew I wasn't a nice person, and I've done bad things in my life, you know. And I'm like, You picked the wrong person. I said, No, you. And I'm pacing back and forth. And I finally got into my bedroom, and I was in my bathroom, walking out, I said, You picked the wrong person. You should have picked the Pope or a bishop. And this is when I heard my father speak to me. Now he speaks to you through your emotions all the time. We've just learned to tune them out, right? But this is when he spoke to me, and these were his exact words. He's kind of little on the myth side. And when I said that again, I said, You picked the wrong person. And he said, why not? You are my son. I collapsed on the floor at the end of my bed, and I looked up and I said, for all that I am, I am you, I forgave myself for everything. I knew I had done nothing wrong, and I wiped the altar clean of all the false idols that I had put up there. And on my altar is my father, and that is it. And that's when the nudge came, like, start your YouTube channel, start your website. And people just fell into place. They came in, they started my YouTube channel for me. They started my website. I've had clients right now. It's not as active as I'd like it, but that's coming. But it was the nudge to get me to where I needed to be to get my ball rolling, you know? And I was mad. I was very angry, not at my near death experience, but that I had been lied to by the church, by by the Catholic Church.

Alex Ferrari 22:48
The thing is that that is a very common feeling being a recovering Catholic. I was I was livid for years after I kind of realized what was going on, and it's just always been something that it just sticks in my craw a lot, because I was like, I've been lied to, I've been lied to, I've been lied to. And then doing this work, the more, the deeper down these rabbit holes you go in regards to how the Bible was created and what the true teachings were, and how they've been manipulated, and all of this kind of stuff. Because I had a friend of mine once say, No one leaves Christianity because of Christ's teachings.

Jason Janas 23:34
What's in the Bible with Christ's teachings aren't even there, you know, right? I mean, it's, I mean, if you look at the Old Testament, it's really the Quran, right? Because it's what's the Torah? Yeah, the Torah. You know what I'm saying, yes, the Torah. And it's not even anything. I mean, even by the time of the Christ, even behind Jesus was here, the Jews finally didn't have, they didn't decide on what were going to be the Chronicle scriptures of the Old Testament yet, right? So that didn't come until year 100 or so.

Alex Ferrari 24:00
Oh, yeah. And then the Bible didn't come into real play that we the one we kind of know is for at least three 400 years, right?

Jason Janas 24:06
In the year 382 that's when they finally decided on Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. So tell me, five years ago on a Tuesday, what did you have for dinner? Exactly. Okay, so now you're going to tell me, right? And I, I was like, Okay. I said, No. I said, this is this is intolerable. I will not stand for this. People need to know who they are, because in that moment when I told you, I became the light, I was one with the Father.

Alex Ferrari 24:37
So, so let's go, let's go back to your the actual time when you were on the other side, yeah, so you're, you're floating, but so when you saw you were still kind of in this realm, but you saw light, because you're saying, you see the blades of glass, you see the tree and all that stuff. Is that here, or is that?

Jason Janas 24:55
We have to understand when you leave your body, you're in a different dimension, correct? Right? So. It's not technically heaven, because you're not dead yet. Okay, so it's a place where you form a safe place, okay,

Alex Ferrari 25:07
Kind of like what dreams may come correct that Robin Williams created his world, correct? So, okay, that's wanted to make sure there's unlike the grass and the and the leaves outside.

Jason Janas 25:18
Did you see the shack? The movie The Shack? Oh, my God, you should watch the shack. It is a beautiful but it's the same thing. You create this in between. You're in between this world and home, but it's a look alike to heaven. Okay? So it's because a construct, right? Because you're not really dead yet, so you can't enter home yet, so, but it's your safe place that you can commune with father and have your souls or Jesus show up and relatives, relatives, whatever you whatever See, we create our near death experience before we come.

Alex Ferrari 25:51
Which is another point I wanted to ask you about, because I know you've spoken about this on your YouTube channel. One thing that I want to say, 97% of every near death experience I've spoken to, near death experience or I've spoken to has been a positive experience, yes, but there's those few that are negative, right? And people are like, Oh, I said that there's proof that that's a hell, or there's proof of this or that. My understanding is that we construct like you just said, our our own near death experience. It's almost like a it's almost like a ramp or a easing in, because when you transition, it's pretty abrupt from this world to the other.

Jason Janas 26:34
It's extremely abrupt. Way it's it's like crossing the line, boom, boom. I mean, that's it. There's no gray matter, right?

Alex Ferrari 26:40
So if, all of a sudden, you were raised a Catholic your entire life, and Mohammed is waiting for you, and it's all a Muslim environment, let's say, right, it's coming, you're going to freak the hell out because you're still just trying to process what's happening to you. So a lot of times, from what I understand, is you kind of ease into it by constructing an a near death experience that makes you feel comfortable. Hence, if it's grandma, grandma sometimes shows up if it's your third grade teacher who did something for you, right? She shows up if it's your animals, if it's Jesus. I always, I always joke Jesus the hardest working man to show business, because he shows up at everyone's near death experience. But he's at a lot of them. But there's also Buddha and many other ones. There's Muhammad, there's many other teachers, Indian gurus and so on that show up at different people, the yeshiva, all that kind of stuff, at different near death experiences to kind of ease in. If you're Hindu all your life and you have Jesus show up, you're gonna probably like, what, right? What is happening here, right? So it's kind of like you're constructing, you're constructing your own experience to kind of ease you in. Is that how you see it as well?

Jason Janas 27:49
Right! Because it's such a profound change from what you were just experiencing to to this. I mean, it's like a shock to the system. And, right! Taking the right, the Polar Bear Plunge, right? You know you're at 98 degrees and now you jumped into 30 degree water. It's, it's a shock, so, but I instant. The thing with me is like I instantly knew where I was. And I've watched many hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of near death experience, and they had, I had an overwhelming sense that I was home. I was a home feeling. I knew exactly where I was, instantly, I'm home. And I said it shockingly, like I shouldn't be here, yet it's not time, because, again, I knew everything there was to know, so I knew it wasn't my time. And I was like, I'm home. How would I know I'm home? How would I know I'm home? The Bible never said that. Bible said I'm gonna go to hell, that there is no safe place for me. How would I know I'm home?

Alex Ferrari 28:47
To be fair, the Bible terms on what goes to hell or not is pretty gray and it's pretty sensitive. So like, I ate meat on Friday, yeah, going to hell.

Jason Janas 28:59
It's over some you know, I, you know, I, you know, I, you know, when you go to church, you know, you fornicated around, you, cheated on your wife, you rob the bank, you masturbated you right? And then you go to church, and all for the you know, for the love of Jesus. He love. You're forgiven.

Alex Ferrari 29:13
So I love, I love. This is a bit that George Carlin the great, late, the late, great, George Carlin did a bit on, I think it was George Carlin that did a bit on. He was raised Catholic as well, and he's like, you know, early on my life, you know, they, you know, if you ate meat on Friday, right? That was a that was a punishable offense, like that was hardcore, you're going to hell. But then, you know, over the last 30 years or so, they kind of loosened up on that. They loosened up on that. They changed their change their mind on it. They did the official right, the official Vatican position on eating meat on Friday. Wait, ah, it's not that bad. He goes, Well, what happened to all the people before they got sentenced right to hell? But. Because of the me thing. Do they all get out now, or are they still in there going, man, just bad timing, like, right? It was, but that joke, it's exactly what it is. That's what he was pointing out. It's a joke. It makes a farce. It's, it's man made. Another friend of mine says it's people doing people he things, right? That's what it is,

Jason Janas 30:18
Right! I mean, it's really, comes down to your choice. Do you want to believe that this is the written word of God? Because anytime that something comes from a divine experience, it comes through what language you know, right? And I'm not talking Sanskrit, English, German, whatever. I'm talking what religion you were brought up with, right? The Catholic Church wrote the Bible period. That's it. They took it over Rome did. Rome did, right? Rome, they took it over from the Jews, and they created the Bible, and they passed it down to you from coming from the Holy Spirit. Take our word for it, right?

Alex Ferrari 30:53
That was, that was, that was the sales pitch.

Jason Janas 30:55
That was a sales pitch. And only we can interpret the Bible for you, the calf, right, until they started reading, right? And then, and then, you know, so Right? And then you're like, wow, and but it worked, right? You fell for it. Well, why?

Alex Ferrari 31:11
When the Listen, I walked into I don't know how old St Peter's Basilica is, but I know it's fairly old. I don't know the date of when it was finished, sure, originally, but I walked in to St Peter's Basilica in the Vatican. I walked in and I looked around, and I just said, I turned to my wife, I go, if I was a peasant living in the fields, working, you know, and I walked into this, there would be, there's no reference that I would have other than living in the shack or living small towns. And you walk and you see this, like, God must have built this. God must have built this. And that's, that was what they're saying. This is God's house. Blah, blah, blah, all this. So the the vast all these cathedrals, I went throughout Europe looking at visiting cathedrals, and you just walk in, you're like, they're built as these awe inspiring places to help with the narrative of what they're selling correct. It was, it was, it was. And then on top of that, they commissioned the greatest artist of their generation in the, you know, Renaissance. All that everywhere you turn, there is propaganda, church propaganda, on some of the greatest pieces of art ever created, because they were commissioned by the church, correct? And you're but it's, again, all part of the of the propaganda moving forward. It was fascinating to see all of that.

Jason Janas 32:32
I'm sure it was because it is awe inspiring, you know,

Alex Ferrari 32:36
You know, it is awe inspiring. But also, I got to a point, and my wife, also with both of us, got to a point where we're going to museums in Italy and in France and Spain, and we're just like, I can't see Jesus being tortured anymore. Like every image of him is just, you know, the cadaver on the wall kind of vibe. And it was just like we were looking for a smiley Jesus or or even just one that he's not bleeding and in pain, and they're rare to find it was just, it's but again, that was part of the the sales pitch, right? That like he suffered for your sins, He's the one that did all this stuff. And it just, it just drove me nuts.

Jason Janas 33:16
And you know, I will tell you this, that Jesus felt no pain. He wasn't in his body when the crucifixion started. The whole thing. He was simply he was simply watching it from home, like when he became enlightened, when John baptized him in the Jordan, right? That is when his enlightenment began. He was hit with a massive amount of electricity or energy, right? And He came up from that baptism, and he was jerking around and having spasms, and he wandered off into the into the woods, into the weeds, by the by the river, where he stayed for three weeks, because he knew if he started walking like that, like Twitch, and people would think he was possessed, you know, the ignorant people back then, and they would have stoned him, right? So he sat off in the weeds, and you know this in the Bible, as he wandered the desert for three weeks, tempted by the devil. No, he sat there, and his fight began with the ego. He began to kill the ego. And the ego was the year, not strong enough, you know, to do this. This devil doesn't exist. That's something created by the Catholic Church and Dante, right, right? Dante's Inferno, but he was battling the ego, and he stayed by the river going something to eat and drink, and then when he was healthy enough to or the, you know, he walked home. But that's what the church created that situation and turned it into, you know, the devil. He wandered the desert tempted by the devil. No, he was sitting there fighting the ego.

Alex Ferrari 34:47
Well, from, from my understanding, from the research I've done, we were talking about, like, my favorite years are the yada yada years of Jesus, 12 yada yada yada. He's 30, those years. To my understanding, he did get a lot of trouble. And he did go to a lot of different places and learned a lot of things, but when John did that to him, it might have act. It might have taken him to that next level of his of his mission. That's correct, it did, and it sounds like from way you're explaining it is that jolt of electricity the nervous system in a body needs time to acclimate to that kind of energy. Correct? Because we're just not and psychics deal with that, and so do psychic mediums and channelers deal with that. One there, that energy comes through them. They just, they it takes, you have to, like, build up a tolerance, a capacity, right? The battery. Correct, enough. Correct. So he was in there three he was probably pretty open already.

Jason Janas 35:39
Well, you know when, when you were speaking about where he learned Jesus early on, was Mary Magdalene was his wife. So yes, they were a very close couple. They stole away together, where they go out into the woods, and they would talk, lean up against trees, whatever. But then Jesus said, I have to go. And he was a young man at the time. He was 12 when he left. But then right so he last time we saw last time you saw him. But when he left, he was about 1819, no, I think he was like 2324 and he was going to be gone for three years. So he said, I'm going to go on a long trip, right? So he left. Mary, where do you get this? Kim from home. Got it. So he traveled across North Africa. All right? So he would, you know, when he'd run out of money, he got into some good caravans, and he'd travel with them. And then when he ran out of money, he wouldn't go to work. And, you know, unloading ships work in the docks, a working man, right, gather up some money, and then he would travel. And he made it to India, where he learned from the Masters on how to meditate, how to become one with the mind, heart and mind, or one, self realization, Self Realization. And he was stayed there for three years, or two and a half years or so, and then he worked his way back, okay, back across North Africa, through the caravans, doing the same thing, meeting wonderful people. He wanted to get to know you. He knew what you were. Didn't matter whether you were prostitute a bar keep didn't matter to him. He loved you unconditionally, and he wanted to get to know you, so he then he came back. And can you imagine, you know, we have our phones when we leave. Hey, honey. You know, there was no writing, there was no communication. He was just gone for three years, right? Hoping that he'll come back, hoping, if he's still alive, to even come back. And, you know, Mary's mother's like, just, he's dead, you know, and then there he is. He comes back, and that's where his knowledge came from. That's where his teachings came from. That's where he told you, anything I can do you can do. Do not seek anything out. When he said, the materialistic world will bring you ruin. Why? Because there's nothing there. If you seek anything outside yourself, you will find pain, misery and death, search within, because there is the kingdom of God.

Alex Ferrari 37:48
And the funny thing is, and imagine saying those words back then,

Jason Janas 37:52
He was truly revolutionary. Now it's revolutionary correct, I mean, but back then, I mean, that was, I mean, when he spoke those words when he said, When he finally said, I and the Father are One, that was his death sentence when he spoke. He knew it too. When he spoke that, he said, I and the Father are one. And they picked up stones to stone him. And he said, For which of the good works that I have shown you from the Father, am I to be stoned? And they said, for your good works, not but you, being a man, make yourself God. Now his response was epic, and of course, could only come from Yeshua. He said, Is it not written in your laws? I said, You are God's and they all drop stones. They're stones. And he says, Then, how, you know, how is that blasphemy? That was his death sentence. That was his that was it. They they hunted him down, and they finally executed him. They killed him as a common criminal. He broke the law. He was not allowed to teach what he was teaching. It was against the law, and the church got him for it. They murdered him.

Alex Ferrari 39:01
Well, it wasn't the church yet. It was Rome, and it was Rome.

Jason Janas 39:04
It was bunch of the Pharisees or the religious institutions of the time. Let's put it that way. Okay, he was a troublemaker. He was a troublemaker. Yeah, he came to he muddied up the water, and he had no problems doing it. He didn't care, because he knew what he was doing. Everything that way, it's a dream that we're in. It's a non reality,

Alex Ferrari 39:23
an illusion. So yeah, to type, to kind of jump into what you were saying, in regards to the looking for anything outside of yourself, that I completely understand that idea. And the more you go down the spiritual path, the more you understand that the outside world is not real, correct? This is the only thing that's real, is the inner world, correct? But the but the outside world is fairly intoxicating.

Jason Janas 39:51
It's meant to draw you in. It's nice. That's the point of this. That's the whole point of it, right?

Alex Ferrari 39:54
Yeah, I mean, it's in a sorry, everyone. I'm going to bring it up again, the matrix and. It's exactly what they were saying in the matrix. It is correct. He's like, when we see cipher sitting there, he goes, I know that this steak is not real, right, but I don't care. And he takes a bite of it. He's like, I don't want the real world. The real world is too difficult for me. I don't, I don't want to. I don't want to. I want to just live in this delusion. And that's who that character was, correct, and Neo being essentially the one, and also basically being Jesus, Jesus Christ, right? In that thing, in that that story, he was able to not only learn the truth of the reality of the matrix of the the the illusion, the dream and the reality. But then he was, he learned the ability to manipulate both

Jason Janas 40:48
Correct, and that's what Jesus did, and that's what all the Masters do. And you, you have to understand that one father Cho and I call God Father, because of my near death experience, because I felt like in the moment of that relationship now, I felt like I was his one and only Son, the love that was bestowed on me so and I call God Father.

Alex Ferrari 41:06
Says that to everybody, Jason,

Jason Janas 41:10
I know, but people get there's others this, not just you, Jason, I know, and it's like people get so mad at me. Quit calling him father. He's God or source. I said, No, he is my father. He is my Creator, and I am one with Him, sure, and but regardless, is like when God chose Jesus. He not only we come from a different dimension, we all do, but not only that, but Jesus was in a different he was a highly advanced being from a highly advanced society, okay, what you we would call an extraterrestrial and an alien, right? He was a highly advanced being, so he was a master. So when father chose him, and they got into their little pow wow, Jesus actually said, Man, I don't really think it's a good time. And he's like, they're not ready the right? He says, You know, I need you now. And of course, when father asks us of something, right? We do it. So Jesus came, but Jesus was a master a highly advanced being. He beat the game. He was living a life of a highly advanced being. So when he came, I mean, I couldn't even imagine how difficult it must have been for him to to lower himself to such standards. But his love for all of us is something you don't understand. So that's where Father got Jesus from. He wasn't your regular pow wow kind of guy,

Alex Ferrari 42:28
So and, but the thing is, too that I always ask, I always ask the same my I always say the same thing, like, man, what was it like trying to teach what Jesus was teaching at the time he was teaching it? And then you look at someone like Buddha, what, how was it like when he was around trying to teach what he was teaching, right? You know, and all of the Masters they all have, they all run up against these walls, because that's what this place is even today. I mean, in someone, someone, I always bring him up because he's, you know, one of my I'm very deeply connected to miss Yogananda, who died in the night in the 20th century, but he, he promoted Christ's teachings so wholeheartedly with his with Indian yogic philosophies and everything like that, and and pushed all of that out there. But the resistance that he got, and we're talking about the 30s, right? The 40, this is not that long ago. No, it's massive. So I always ask, what would happen if Jesus really did come back? Like, what would literally, what would happen, like, what if he would start doing miracles? People would be like, That's AI, or that's a magic trick, right? Or, you know, because now we're so kind of cynical about everything, like, what would he have to do,

Jason Janas 43:40
It wouldn't be good enough. Nothing would be good enough because people would say, Nah, that's some sort of allude. That's that because you're so ingrained in the illusion, in the dream, that you believe your body is real. You believe that, like you said, that steak is real, that your pencil, that what your college degree, everything that you're experiencing, is real because you can feel it, see it, and touch it and taste it, right? But that's part of the illusion. That's part of what you immersed yourself in. So then what's the point of coming here? Alex, I'll tell you, it's simply to rediscover who you are. You didn't come here to learn anything when I sold you who I am. God, right? What does God need to learn? Nothing? So what do I need to learn here in the illusion nothing. What I came here to do is rediscover who I am,

Alex Ferrari 44:26
And by doing that, you're going to learn a few things.

Jason Janas 44:30
And I've learned a lot of things through the way. You know, of this experience, it's like, you know, a hamster on a wheel. You're on a cosmic wheel in the universe, right? What does that wheel do? It goes nowhere. You're on a journey to nowhere. There's nowhere for you to go, period. You're at home, you're in a deep sleep, right? So where, what do you need to learn? Nothing. It's simply a journey of rediscovery. I am the universe pretending to be Jason Janet. Us, that's it, and I've just rediscovered that, all right. And I had a profound experience on October 3 that proved that we can get into it later. But I am simply rediscovering who I am, and I've done that, and that's the whole purpose of this. That's why, when Jesus said to the young king, sell all your stuff, put give all your money away, come follow me. I'll show you Jesus led by example, right? He showed you what he was doing and how to do it. But even then, they didn't want to listen. Even with the miracles he was doing, which he, by the way, did far less miracles than the Bible explains. But miracles, nonetheless, people began to project themselves onto him, and that frustrated him, because they're not getting it right. But he didn't come to start a religion. No, he didn't come to start any religion. He came to wake you up. Look, anything I can do you can do. And more. Wake up, is what he was saying. Wake up. Wake up.

Alex Ferrari 45:56
He's handing out blue pills every he's handing out

Jason Janas 45:59
It's like when you have a nightmare and you wake up in the bed, you go, Oh, it's just a dream. You haven't woken up from the dream yet. That's called death, and it's called an awakening. And why are you all terrified to awaken? There's two forms of awakening. And I was just talking to this to someone last night. Awakening is what I am. And now I went through my ascension in 2023 which was brutally painful, brutal. But now I'm in the awakening, and that is simply the death of the ego, loss of motivation, loss of caring about anything in this world anymore. I have no love of this world. I don't care about wealth. Six, I mean, any of that, it's the what is that? That's the death of the ego. So my ego is just crushed. He's there, but it's the death of the ego is what the awakening is. But when you truly awaken, that means you die, or you transition home, and that's where people are terrified, all right? Because you will stand before your father and you will be shown your life. Review, okay? And I wish you didn't have and I did not have no I did not have in mind. But you and I've just from everybody, they've had their life review.

Alex Ferrari 47:09
But life review is not a judgment.

Jason Janas 47:12
It's not there is no judgment. I need you all to understand this right now. There is no judgment, there is no hell. There are no demons. There is nothing. This is a dream, it's an illusion. It's what you asked your father to experience in this dream, in this 3d world.

Alex Ferrari 47:28
So let's go back to that. When you say you chose this, are you talking about the soul blueprint? Correct? You're talking about the soul contract.

Jason Janas 47:35
You're still right, and that contract isn't going to be completed in one lifetime. Okay, I've died over 3200 times. Okay, most of you have died between anywhere between 600 to 800 times. There might be some of you out there with a little more experience at 1200 but I had a profound out of body experience the night Devar Hamlin died on the football field. I had a profound out of body experience. And I'll tell you this real quick, is like, as soon as I saw him make the hit and walk, I saw him drop dead, and he came back. He came back right. He had a near he won't talk about it yet, but I all of a sudden, I just laid my head back and I went. And then all of a sudden, I was gone. I was in another realm, another dimension. It was like Star Wars. There was a sun here and a sun here like and the ocean was over here, and there was a light being walking towards me on this beautiful beach. And there was a presence that I could not see, but I could feel like I'm feeling the love of home and peace and all of this and and I'm like, Who are you? And you know, it's telepathic, of course, so because there's no body, and I'm like, I'm Jeffrey, I've always been with you, and I'm like, Jeffrey, so that's the Toys R Us draft man said, I can't call you Jeffrey. How about John? And then I ended up calling him Jeffrey, and I'm like, so he's your spirit guide, my spirit guide. And, and this being is getting closer to me, but it was a I recognized that being you recognize the energy problem. Yes, the energy right? Because it was a light being, right? And I'm like, Jeffrey, how many times have I been here? How many times have I died? And he in, the number was instant, over 3200 and I'm like, I've died over 3200 times. And he goes, yes, you're ancient. And then I was pulled back into my body on the couch. And now I wake up and the football field is all dark. Nobody's in the stands. It's dark, and just a few commentators. So from the time, I saw his hit and him take two steps and drop, then I came back and everything was dark. So I was gone for quite a I was gone for quite a while in this experience, having this experience, I'm like, What the hell does ancient mean? I mean, yeah, we're eternal, right? But what does ancient mean? And I'm like, 3200 times, am I that pathetic? I'm like, get it, right? Wow. And that night, I remember saying this. I said, Who am I, father? Why do you what am I? I. Right? And then the next day, wake up, and my YouTube algorithm was lone wolf, sigma male and the chosen one, you're a chosen one, and I'm like, chosen and it resonate. I could just feel this energy burst out like, like, and I started doing research on that, and I was in a sharing group, and I was explaining my new experience in this I think his name was David Suchi. I don't know if you've ever heard of him, but he's been researching near death experiences for like, 15 or 20 years. He's done like, 1000s of them, written five or six books. And he raised his hand, he goes, Wow, that's amazing. Yeah. I said, first of all, that experience was profound, but you being a chosen one. He says, is very real. And he says, Do you realize you've been walking this earth for over 30,000 years, helping humanity? And he says, God has come to you to choose to have these experiences, because you're a light seed. You're a light worker, or star seed, a light worker. And he says, You've been walking this earth for 30,000 years, helping humanity evolve. And I was like in it. I felt it right. I felt that energy surging through me, and I was like that. All made sense now, why I've had all these lives, and all of these, what I would call hard lives, you know, especially this one, with the brutality that I've faced my whole life. And I said, Wow. And I said, But you have to realize no one here is special. Jesus wasn't special. Nobody is special. We're all one with the Father. Okay, so there's no speciality.

Alex Ferrari 51:30
It's just, we're just a couple, maybe whoever's I agree with you. It's just like some people might be a little bit farther along on the journey.

Jason Janas 51:39
That's it, right? So you're looking at somebody as you know, going into grade school, to somebody as a PhD, PhD. That's, that's the only difference. You're other than that. You're no different. You're just for Jesus was, well, clearly further along on his journey, and that's why he was chosen for his job, and that's why Father has come to me and others you know Him in the Bible as the 144,000 Okay, were the were the star seeds, the chosen ones to come and help humanity evolve, to get out of the darkness, to spread our love and our light. And it all made sense my my entire life made sense now, because I've been a deep, empathetic person since I was a little boy I loved so deeply, and every ding, every bad word, every hit, it hit hard, brutally hard, and I felt it right, and I was like, nobody loves me, nobody cares. Clearly, God doesn't care anymore, right? And that's why I'm being beaten. Nobody loves me. And all in that moment, everything came and my teachings just took off in that in that manner where I just began to teach more isolated things, other than near death, my near death experience, people need to know who they are. People need to know that you're in a matrix, a dream, that you can change the contract you can hear in the physical change, your soul contract, but it's got to be done a certain way. You can't just say, Listen, pal, I'm not liking this anymore, so we're going to do this, this and this, it's not going to work

Alex Ferrari 52:25
Well and you're also talking about 3200 times. That means, obviously, goes very much against what the church in the Bible say about reincarnation, Oh, absolutely, which never made any sense. No, no, I'm like, so I only hear this one time, right? That's it. And then I'm screwed. And these are my these are the circumstances of the one time I can live as a male or female, rich or poor, abused or loved, like, that's it. It's just like the luck of the draw, right? And it made no sense.

Jason Janas 52:25
And then I'm gonna rot in the dirt until some guy's gonna stand up in the sky and then decide who will really come home, and the rest will then truly suffer hell on earth. I was like, What are you talking about?

Alex Ferrari 52:25
Well, any parent understands that that's not realistic, because you would never do that to a child like your own children, no matter what they do, right? You will love them on condition. You might not be happy with them, right, but you will love them, right? Because that's, that's what a parent is. So I always said that to myself. I was like, well, if, if God is our parent, and he loves us and we use he is a lack of a better word, correct? But if he loves us, then that's why, that's why hell never made sense to me. When I was in first grade, I they introduced me to hell. I was terrified. We all were care if I went to Catholic school right, terrified with the nun and the priest and the whole thing and and the Catholic calisthenics, you know, up, sit kneeled, up, sit kneel, sit up, kneel.

Jason Janas 51:39
Telling me God has an ego, right? We got to stoke God's ego. Is that what you're telling me? Well, that was the thing too, right? And that, and that's what people don't understand. It's like, why do I need to go to church, to worship? Yeah, I need to worship God. So you're telling me God has an ego, and then they stop dead in their tracks, right?

Alex Ferrari 54:59
Oh, no. How about. How about the well, just the 10 Commandments, right? No, you shall have no other God besides me, which I find fairly egotistical in itself, the Old Testament. God is very insecure,

Jason Janas 55:13
Oh yeah, and very brutal, very,

Alex Ferrari 55:15
Very vengeful, oh very he loves playing games. He's like, give away or I'll kill your son. Is Abraham, was it like, I'll kill your son? Or like, I'm just joshing, I won't kill him. I was just testing you in that way. It's like, wow, he's got a dark sense of humor,

Jason Janas 55:31
And he has, he does have a very good sense of humor.

Alex Ferrari 55:34
I've had, I've had this conversation on the show before. I'd love to hear your thoughts on it, where it's the Old Testament versus the New Testament. Now those gods very different, true, and then Jesus doesn't follow Jehovah. No, he doesn't follow that God. No, he never said, to my understanding and please correct me wrong. I don't think he ever said Jehovah in the New Testament. Never, never, once, nope, because they're two different books from two different worlds. Correct? They just kind of put together because we, like this is thin. We need to fill it up. Get that Torah over here. Let's bring it in here.

Jason Janas 56:00
And that's exactly where that came from, exactly.

Alex Ferrari 56:15
So it's very different because they're in the Torah, there's no Hell, correct, there is no hell they did that doesn't exist in the Jewish religion. So the hell was a construct of a control it was a control mechanism, correct?

Jason Janas 56:30
Do you know where it came from?

Alex Ferrari 56:31
Oh, yes, of course. Well, Jesus said it was about the lake, and he everyone

Jason Janas 56:38
The Catholic Church took it from the fires of Gehenna, which was the eternal, you know, garbage dump that was burning outside Jerusalem for centuries, right? And where they would take child sacrifices and then throw the bodies onto the fire. When Jesus saw it, he says, How would you like it if you burned for eternity, right? Then and there, like that. Let's take that and there. Instead of an eternal garbage dump. What do they create? An eternal hell, an eternal hell, a lake of fire, of torture.

Alex Ferrari 57:05
And they're like, We need someone to write. We need a main character in this part of the story, right? Can we find what? Wasn't there an angel or something in this other book that we someone was talking about like, you know?

Jason Janas 57:17
And it's like the whole, I will tell you where, where this came from, and this is great, where the fear concept came from, when we took on consciousness, when we decided all that is father, there is nothing else God is there is nothing else Period, end of subject that that's put down right now. But all that is already knew everything, stubbing your toe would hurt, having giving birth would hurt, right, getting burned would hurt. But that wasn't good enough for all that is, all that is wanted to experience, what all that is already knows, okay? So how can all that is experience this? He created us, right? So we could be his tools to experience what all that is already knows. So we were created in His image. We are father. We are still one with the Father, but yet we are all individuals in the same aspect. It's a hard concept to understand, but follow me, right? So in that moment when we decided we don't have to come here, we don't have to take on this, okay, only the bravest of us souls choose to come here, because it is brutally difficult. It is beyond hard. It's the hardest place in the universe to come to, okay, so when we decided to take on this role, we took on consciousness. Okay? Consciousness is duality. So when it's just you hear somebody speak of duality, that's consciousness, which we're experiencing right now. That is where, in that moment that we took that on, we created three things, fear, guilt and the ego. We fear we have abandoned God, or, you know, it in the Bible, as we were kicked out of the Garden of Eden, of course. Okay, there is your fear. That's where it came from. We abandoned father. We threw ourselves into the universe so deep, and we built up a wall around ourselves and now the ego, which is every voice inside your head, right is now going hell bent on killing not only God but you. That's where that came from, and the church built on that fear and US saps fell into that trap of believing that somehow an angel could fall and create, become the leader of the lake of fire. It's, it's insanity. It really is. It is.

Alex Ferrari 59:51
It's not only insanity. It just doesn't it just there's so many holes in this plot.

Jason Janas 59:57
It is. It's riddled with holes. It's Swiss Cheese.

Alex Ferrari 1:00:00
It's, I mean, it's like, I come from the story world and, you know, filmmaking world, so I've studied story ad nauseam, and you just look at the story just like, my god, this doesn't these characters don't make sense. The narratives don't make sense. They kind of contradict themselves all the time, right? And then you've got these near death experiencers that come in and they just start saying, Oh no, everything's love, everything's God, everything's this, everything's that, and the fear based stuff is the thing that really irritates me. Like, you know you're born, I'm talking, I was just thinking that you're born with original sin, because you can't be born perfect. You have to be you got to bring some baggage in. But I as the church, can clear you of that, right? If you don't get baptized,

Jason Janas 1:00:49
Sorry, pal, you're gonna burn, right?

Alex Ferrari 1:00:51
So when my kid, when my kids were born, what a joke. When my kids were born, you know, we didn't, we're not Catholic, so we didn't get them baptized. And my parents are like, so what do you mind? You're not religious. I mean, they haven't gone to church in 30 years, but were raised Catholic, right? And they and they're like, so you thinking of, you know, getting baptized. I'm like, Are you out of your mind, right? Good for you. This is years ago, when they were first born. I'm like, no, why? She's like, well, you know, just in case, you know, cover your bases. You know what? Water on. It'll be fine, kind of thing. And it's just, Oh, my It's, I was like, wow!

Jason Janas 1:01:43
My youngest, I have two children. My first was, you know, because back then, I was 21 when I had her, so she's good, so she's good, you know, my youngest, who's just gone off to college, right? He's done. She was right, done, because she was never baptized, because my wife, at the time, hated Christianity, and she's like, Oh, you praise her, you sick, you know. And I'm like, I'm fighting on. Oh, Catholicism is all that it is. And we fought tooth and nail, but she never got baptized. And thank God, thank You, Father, that she never did because I would be horrified, because she doesn't need it. And, and to this day, she's like, I let her. This is her journey. This is her incarnation. She came here to work on herself. So I will. I've told her some things. I said, this is your life. You live it how you want to live it. There's no right or wrong, there's no good or bad. You do what you need to do, but you're on a journey. Okay? And I left it at that, if you have questions, come to me, I will be happy to answer them. But do not read the Bible. Do not fall for the church. It is a hoax. It's a lie. It will leave you in ruin. Okay, I said, go within you. That's the only place you can go. What do you mean, dad, and I'm like, you will find out you're 19. You have a while, a while to go, but just believe in yourself, believe in who you are, because that's the important thing,

Alex Ferrari 1:03:09
Now that you've gone through this experience, and it's fairly recent, only, like, the last four or five years,

Jason Janas 1:03:14
Five years I died somewhere in, like, I say April 2, because it was when I went in. So again time, I don't know around that,

Alex Ferrari 1:03:20
Right! So it hasn't been a long time since, since, since you've gone through this process, and you went to the other side and spoke to father and had a and felt Yeshua, and, you know, the whole ball of wax. What's the one truth that you would like to share with people about what you discovered in your journeys

Jason Janas 1:03:41
That and I will be blunt, and I've said it twice now, that I am God. I merged with that light. I became the light. I became one with everything, and that everybody else is and everybody else that has died, and I'm talking when I mean one with everything. I'm talking in the universe, not just every human being on Earth, but everything, everything that has ever created or has not been created. I have one with

Alex Ferrari 1:04:10
The one thing that I hear again and again is this knowing and this instant tapping into I like to call it the spiritual cloud, where you automatically, it's kind of like the internet, but like on steroids, because you have all information. It's given to you instantly, instantly, instantly. So you're like, what's quantum physics? Oh, okay, got it,

Jason Janas 1:04:32
And it was all there. I mean, it's all there, but you can't bring it back. No, no, because this can't handle it correct, right? Because you have to understand that your mind is at home with father. This is your brain. This runs the CPU of the suit, okay? This is a simply a suit. You're so there's nothing inside this. Your soul is wrapped around it like a glove, okay? And that's what controls your body, all right? Your mind is at home. You are everybody on this planet. Is still at home. You've just put yourself into a deep sleep. Okay? And what happens when you sleep? You dream. You took on consciousness. Now you are all of a sudden aware as I'm naked, you know, that's the whole Bible thing. So you took on this reality, this this avatar, and now you became fearful of it. You became hateful of it, right because you left, or you think, as you've been taught in in life, that you left Father, that You are unworthy of being with him and his love, and when I merged with that light of him and absorbed into it and became the light. I became that love, that I am one with the Father, that I am God. Each and every one of you are God, okay, you've just forgotten who you are.

Alex Ferrari 1:05:57
It's, it's like the the Hindu concept of Maya, correct, yeah, the dream, the dream, or the aborigine, the group, the great dream. Correct. That's what we're in.

Jason Janas 1:06:05
That's it. That's all you're doing is dreaming. Nothing that you are seeing here, that you are perceiving. See. These aren't eyes, these are lenses. So what you are dreaming, if you've seen the movie, Avatar, this is the best way to describe it. Remember when he saw his avatar, and he laid down in bed for the first time, and you saw that ball of electricity go through the right that is exactly what is taking place. Ooh, that's good. I never thought about okay, so you're dreaming now, out of this dream, you're being downloaded what you're dreaming. Right? Your lenses, that you call eyes, are projecting out what you are dreaming about. Thus your thoughts create your reality. So what you are seeing is you. This is your envisioning of who I am, what you need me to be, is what you're looking at right now, because that is what you are dreaming. So what you're seeing sitting across from you is your perception of how you see me in your dream. That's exactly what is taking place.

Alex Ferrari 1:07:04
So in other words, Jake Scully, as a human right is, in this analogy, who you truly are, correct? That is the soul that is, that is you're on the other side. Yep, that's you're in, you're in the real world, correct. Then he lies down in the machine, and he puts on the thing, and then he and he sees the avatar that he's going to go into Correct. Very similar to us when we are looking at our soul print, a soul blueprint, yep. When I have James Cameron on the show, we're going to have this conversation. I'm going to call Jim up next week. Jim, if you're listening anytime, sir, invite me while I'd love to be here. I'm sure a few people would love to be in the room for that conversation, right? But he goes in, and then when he opens his eyes, he is now in the avatar suit while his while he's in a deep meditative sleep, if you will, in this, actually, in this whole case, and everything right, while he's sleeping, and then he's off in an adventure. And anything that happens to that avatar body doesn't affect the guy who's sitting down, lying down and sleeping. Now you're sitting it's a video game, correct? It's yours. And a video game is a very crude analogy of that right, where we are, the soul, correct? And you're playing Mario Brothers, and Mario is jumping, you know, things and right, and whatever happens to him doesn't affect you. You might feel it. You might feel the pain of, why did I die? Body feels the pain. You don't feel no, no, but the soul, emotionally, yes, emotionally not emotionally Correct. Emotionally like, Oh, why did that happen? Oh, we should make a left. Oh, do that. So that's the analogy of the soul and and the illusion correct, and that's but the thing is, the illusion, I have to imagine that Mario really, really believes that he is in a place with mushrooms and a giant monkey throwing absolutely barrels at him, right? You know, there's, there's def there's when you're in it. You have to believe it, or else. What's the point?

Jason Janas 1:09:13
Right! I mean, and that's the whole point of forgetting, is because Would you follow through with what you were about to experience? Hell no, no.

Alex Ferrari 1:09:20
If I remember, with avatar like, when you comes out into the avatar body, he can't walk. He has to learn how to walk again, right? He has to learn how to acclimate himself. Now, what he's able to do is moves very quickly for story purposes, correct? But when we come in, we come in as a defenseless little thing, right? And we have to relearn everything, everything, right? And then the family we are we choose to come in, which we all have soul contracts with that soul family. Yeah, they're they're like, we're gonna go ahead of you when you come, we'll walk, we'll protect you, we'll get you where, or we'll teach you the lessons that you want us to teach you, right? What? That be trauma, or whether that be love or a combination of both, you know, like, I really want to, I want to be Buddhist in this life. Great. You're going to be born, I'll be Buddhist too. We'll be born in China, or actually, Tibet. Let's do Tibet it's a little safer. That'd be good, right? So you will be born to, we'll be Tibet this Tibetans this time, and we'll be Buddhist Tibetan. So when you show up, we'll teach you Buddhism. And you can walk down that path in this journey and experience that, right? Or you go, No, you know what? I want to discover it for myself. Great. We're going to be born Catholic then, and then you're going to be the black sheep of the family. You're going to go off on a journey yourself, because that's the kind of path you want to walk. You know? It's when you start looking at it like that.

Jason Janas 1:10:42
It's it, that's exactly what it is. So from, like you just said, it, you chose your parents, right? But you also, and I need to make this very clear, you also chose your way out of the dream. Okay? You so how you chose to exit it is perfectly acceptable, and what, however, it is, whether it's being murdered, wearing, stabbed to death, burning in a car or dying in your sleep. Dying in your sleep doesn't matter. You wrote your way out of it.

Alex Ferrari 1:11:05
Okay. Now, do you, from my understanding, and after the all the conversations I've had, when you're laying out your sole blueprint, from my understanding of a sole contract or sole blueprint, is that you lay down mile markers. I call them mile markers. Yes, these are things that are irrefutable. These are going to happen. That is, you really have no choice in the matter.

Jason Janas 1:11:27
You're going to reach them. You want to get married. You're going to have marriage, you're going to have kids.

Alex Ferrari 1:11:31
You're going to work in this field. You're going to work in this field, you're going to do this job. You can like, you know, I got a job at Disney because I'm an animator, and you're going to, yeah, you then, whatever.

Jason Janas 1:11:39
But how you get there. That's the thing. Is your free will, correct?

Alex Ferrari 1:11:42
So there's going to be these mile markers that you can kind of, how you get there is completely up to you, but you will, but you'll end up there. You're being born in America in 2020, that was a choice, correct? And there's nothing you could do about that. That's correct. The parents, you got nothing you could do about that. These are things are in your path, how you get, how you deal with it, and how you get to these other mile markers, the people you meet, that your soul mate, your your marriages, all that kind of stuff. These are mile markers. Correct. Now, from what I understand to you, you set up exit, exit points throughout the journey. Correct that if at a certain point in life you're like, you know, things aren't going real well, I think I need a wake up call near death experience. Does that make sense?

Jason Janas 1:12:28
It does. Because without that experience of having that near death experience, what would have happened if you didn't have I mean, I mean, I would be doing what I was doing now, which was a dead end job, going nowhere, scraping the bottom of the barrel, hitting your head against the wall, right? Basically, you know, taking my head and pounding it on the concrete all day, you know, going nowhere, right? And that was like you were just saying. It's an excellent example. You moral markers. By the time I hit mile marker, maybe D or E, right? God said, If you don't, you don't get on the path that I need you on. This is what's going to happen, right? We're going to nudge you, and that's exactly what happened.

Alex Ferrari 1:13:04
Well, let me ask you this. So though I've always, I always teach when I talk to people that the universe, I use the word universe, God, whatever you want to call it. Gives you a little whisper, then gives you a little tap on the shoulder, starts giving you a little nudge, and it just keeps getting a little bit stronger every time, until the sledgehammer comes right, because you're not listening correct. And near death experience is pretty much the biggest sledgehammer.

Jason Janas 1:13:34
Yeah, it's an explosion of truth.

Alex Ferrari 1:13:37
So were you before the near death experience were you feeling nudges that you were ignoring? Were you anything, anything that was going to point you into direction you was, in other words, was there, was there a timeline

Jason Janas 1:13:50
From early on that, you know, I remember even in high school, you know, my teachers would say, you know, when I'd write essays or I'd have to speak in front of the class, they were like, wow, you know you should become a teacher. You you know you had me engaged. You know, I was thoroughly enjoying you speaking. And I'm like, I have no desire to teach, right? Even when I got into college, and my history professor was like, Jason, would you please teach? You know, we'll take care of, you know, all your will take care of the money, you know, you'll please teach. And I'm like, I have no desire to see being a teacher. And you know, then my mom asked me a question early on in my 20s, like 23 or 25 and she was just sitting there, and I was explaining things to her, and she goes, You need to be a teacher. So you were getting signals, I was getting signals. And I'm like, you know? And I was like, No. And they say, you teach, you know, my mom is very uneducated. She doesn't even have a high school education, so she goes, but you explain things to in such a way that I don't feel ignorant. Are stupid that you could talk to anybody and you sense where they're at. That's the empath. And you can teach them in a very safe and secure manner, right? And it's very comforting to those that you know may not know the truth, that feel ignorant asking that question, that I can come up to them and answer that question. So yes, I was getting those nudges, and I kept, no, there's no way, no way, no way. And now, if somebody said, Jason, you know, you're going to be a tog, a teacher of God, like that, you know, I would have said you can go to, there's no way. I'm going to, you know, be a preacher, or this, that, or no, and here I am, after my near death experience. I knew it. I knew exactly what I needed to do. And I found out this, October 3, from a divine spiritual experience, that I am in alignment with my higher self what I came here to do now, did you say?

Alex Ferrari 1:15:58
Did you already discuss what happened to you? Or No, no, so what happened to you? October 3.

Jason Janas 1:15:58
So well, I'd have to back up 10. This is a few months ago from this a few months ago, but let me back up so, because then you'll fully understand it. I had another I've had several meetings with angels or guides or, as one does, right on an everyday thing. But I had, I came out of sushi, and I was trying to date, which was a bad idea. I wasn't ready yet, you know, and so we had come out of sushi, and there was a guy, a bum, had a bag and a cane, and it was just in ratty clothes, just sitting at the end of my Jeep, and I was walking up there, and she was like, no, no, no, don't go talk to him. I said, no, no. And we walked up to him, and he was like, Hi, how are you just smiling at me, and all of a sudden I'm just feeling this energy, and I'm like, and I'm like, What is going on? And he goes, You love video games. And I'm like, it's this guy, you know, look at time 1212, I got you and I'm like, something's going on. I'm feeling and he goes, You know, I'm in Wisconsin to to help, you know, my partner get a divorce. And he looked right at her, because she was going through divorce, you know, I'm help her to hear get a divorce. And she freaked out, like, how does he know that? And, you know, I'm, you know, I'm headed towards a condom walk where we were thinking of moving, and she, and her face just went white. He goes, Yeah, I'm here to help. And he's staring right at her to help her get a divorce. And she's, can I go sit in the jeep? And she grabbed the keys and ran in there. And we were talking. He goes, You know, he's talking about certain things. And I'm like, What is going on? I'm feeling a real big tug here in with energy. We're exchanging energy on a massive level. And I'm like, he goes, You know, it's really about the love. And he's just smiling at me, just and he goes, You know, it's really about the love. And I'm trying to process what is going what's taking place here I can something's something's up, right? And then a third time, he put out his fist bump, and he goes, it's really about the love. And I said, and I gave him a fist bump, and his hand was cold, like, not temperature cold, but like, there's nothing in it, like a dead body, right? And I'm like, and that's the second time that happened to me. And I'm like, Yes, it is about the love. And I said, three years ago I had a near death experience. And he sat up and he looked at me, and he goes, I know you did. And I'm like, Whoa, okay, what's going on? And I went to turn to look to see if she was okay, and then I turned back, and now he's standing in front of me, and I'm like, but there was no noise. And I'm like, your name is Jason, right? What's going on? And I'm like, and I'm like, he goes, you're kind of scraping the bottom of the barrel. And I'm like, what else is new? I said, Yeah. And he goes, You know, I'm an alcoholic. And I said, I'm sorry. And I said, I drank, you know, I drank quite a bit last month. I was 110 I said, You drank $110,000 worth of booze. And I said, he said, you know where I could get a drink? And I said, right there. There's a bar, right? And he said, Would you walk with me? And I said, Sure. And I grabbed his bag and his cane, and I gave it to him. Now this is when he started walking in front of me, and he said, Would you be okay with that? I said, okay with what? I said, making 110,000 a year. I said, Yeah. I said, I'm screwed. Been about Yeah, and he says, No, a month. And I'm like,

Alex Ferrari 1:20:05
Yeah, sure. Why not?

Jason Janas 1:20:06
Yeah, yeah, sure, right. He says, Great. He said, let's walk with me again. And he said he's not walking in front of me. He said, Would you be willing to relocate?

Alex Ferrari 1:20:18
Well, sure. Where are you now? Where were you there?

Jason Janas 1:20:20
I was in Wisconsin, Wisconsin, Wisconsin, right? Just a little bit outside Milwaukee, Wisconsin, right? And I said,

Alex Ferrari 1:20:26
Weather is great in winter, yeah.

Jason Janas 1:20:30
I lived my whole life there, so I know him very well. So I said, Yeah, sure. He goes, Great. He said, hmm. And he was humming. He's um, he said, he turned around, he goes, How about Sacramento, California,

Alex Ferrari 1:20:48
The most affordable of the state,

Jason Janas 1:20:52
Right! And I'm like, it's all person scraping the bottom of the barrel is really going to make it in California. And I'm like, sure, for that kind of money, so we're talking 1.3 million somewhere in there, yeah. Okay, well, sure, I'm okay, great.

Alex Ferrari 1:21:02
So it's about 100,000 when you're when you're done with the taxes,

Jason Janas 1:21:05
Right, you know, but the added extra 4% that they're gonna take out for what I don't know, but, you know, but sure, for California, right? He's great. So now we're walking and we're talking, and he's like, Jason, it was nice to see you. And we got it. I got him into the Texas Roadhouse, into the thing, and when we walked in, nobody was paying attention to us, like nobody would even look at us, like glitch in the matrix, right? So they're all, you know, no, it got him to the bar, and he says, Jason, you'll hear from me again soon. I never told you my name. I'm like, What is going on? I can't put one on any I said, you know, thank you. I said, I hope you enjoy your stay in Wisconsin. And I was turning to walk out, and when I turned to walk out, I go over, and there's nobody there. He's gone all right, now I'm going out, I kind of hightailed it to the Jeep. And I'm like, and by this time, I'm physically exhausted. I'm like, wiped out.

Alex Ferrari 1:22:08
So when you say you're wiped out, that energy, energy, yes, the energy your body, your body can't,

Jason Janas 1:22:13
Couldn't take a higher process, a higher Yeah, the capacity, right? So I'm feeling tired, and I'm like, oh my god, I said, she goes. Who was that? Now, this is the second time I had met this this individual. The first time he looked different, okay, but this time he had the same square jaw, the same beard, but this time it was a dark red, and his hair was the same, exact same haircut, but red. And I got back to my house, and I'm like, Oh my God, I know who that was. That was Archangel Michael. I saw him less than a year ago, about six months ago, in my workplace, very, very, very, very early in the morning, when I was only there. And it kind of the same situation happened, not money wise this time, but different. And I was like, Oh my God, right then. So I what happened in the end of 2024 I came home from work, and this was the start of my transition and where I'm living now, in California, I walked in and my apartment was ransacked, but the door was locked from the deadbolt and my regular lock, and so I unlock the door. All the lights are on. I look around my computer. Chair is pulled out, turned around, facing towards this is in Sacramento. No, this was in Wisconsin, right? So, and I my couch is to show all the pillows are thrown on the floor. My stuffed animal thrown down, blankets all over the place. Light on. Kitchen lights on. I'm like, and all sudden, I feel this weird energy, like, what is going on? But nothing was taken. My iPad was right there. I brand new iPad Air, 63 inch plasma TV, brand new computer, right? Everything is here. My snake is there. And I'm like, What is going on? And I creeping down the hall, and I turn on the light my second bedroom, they had completely destroyed. The bed, ripped off, all the covers, all the pillows, even though the form, the blanket that hugs the everything was ripped off, thrown on the floor. I go into my room. My room is disheveled, bed torn apart, and I'm like, I'm like, I couldn't figure out what was going on. So I'm calling a few people, a couple mediums. And they said, couple mediums. Yeah, a couple mediums. And I'm just friends with them through ions. And they're like, Jason,

Alex Ferrari 1:24:26
I have a couple Yeah, I understand, right?

Jason Janas 1:24:29
So, and they said, Jason, something big is about to happen in your life. Changes are coming. And I'm like, so we're going to fast forward to now, this last July or July of this year, somehow I lost my job. Yeah, right. Could not find a job in the same field that I've been working in my whole life. No. Everything was instantly denied. No callbacks. I was looking for places to stay. My rent shot up like way. Like, way too much. Nobody got back to me. Now you're in Sacramento, right? And it's from that point I'm like, What am I going to do? And that's when that dawned on me, that that was the non physical destroying my apartment, saying, These are the changes that are happening. And they forced me out of my comfort zone and pushed me to Sacramento. So I got to Sacramento, didn't have a good experience, and I'm like, because now I'm living in my car. I have no job, I have no place to live. I got kicked out of the truck stop in Sacramento. They wouldn't allow me to the police kicked me out. And I'm like, I need this. So I found a place in Lodi, and I was there for a couple months. Lodi, California, and I was just sleeping in my truck stop right? And October 3 rolled around and got up, went to the bathroom as like a normal thing, and then this person was standing in the lobby just staring at me again. Nobody even paying attention to him or whatsoever, and he's looking at me, and he just smiled at me, and I'm like, hi, you know? And then I went, did bathroom. All sudden, when I got into the bathroom, he was in the bathroom, but I just passed him in the lobby, and I'm like, but people are walking by him, not even paying attention. Don't even know he even exists, right? I went to the bathroom. Now he's at the same wash station, and I'm washing my hands, and he's like, hi, hi, you know. And walked around by and then all of a sudden, I got done washing my hands, he's gone. You would hear somebody leaving, but he was just gone. Then he was out in the lobby, and I walked by him. I said, Have a great day. And then I saw him walk in front of my jeep and stare. He's staring. We're locking eyes like you. And I right. He got his car pulled next to me, and he said, we started talking about things, and he goes, You're Jason, right? How many like? He says, You're in alignment and you're powerful. You need to move now. And I'm like, Who are you? He goes, I'm just like, you. I said, No, you're not. I can feel you. Who are you? He said, Jason, you put me here. And I'm like, I've been living in my car for two months. What are you talking he says. I said, Look around you. Look and I said, that's all me, and I'm talking about things, Jason, you're teaching me nothing that I are don't already know. I'm like. You're either a master or you're an angel. Who are you? I said, he said, Jason, you put me here. You need to move now. Somebody needs you move where he said, You are in alignment and you are powerful. You need to move now. And he said, for the job interview, he said he's looking and it's disheveled. He said you need to get some new clothes. And he says, Do not talk about your spirituality, do not what job I've been denied jobs you won't I said you guys won't let me have a job, and now all of a sudden, I need to pick up and move where I knew where it was, back up to Sacramento, because that's where would you be willing to relocate? Right? That's where. And that morning I woke up, my phone wouldn't work. Phone was cut off. I couldn't make phone calls, I couldn't access the internet, right? Nothing. So that incident took about 40 minutes, and then he got in his car and drove away. And I'm like, when you hear that you're in alignment, that means you're in alignment with your souls, your highest version of yourself, meaning you're in alignment with what you came here to do, right? But, like, who needs me? Where do I need to go? I mean, and then all of a sudden, I got this job. But did I talk about the spirituality? Nothing. Now I got this job. It's a worthless job. I mean, it's getting me by, not even getting me by because I'm living in I bounce from crappy motel to crappy motel at the time, right? But I have, I'm grateful, because when I wake up, I do have a shower to take, I have a little mini fridge. I can have cold water, and I have a place to lay down. But is it a home yet? No, sometimes you still need to be broken further in order to see the true version of yourself. And while I was in Lodi, right, I've been having these immense, vivid or lucid dreams, and they were showing me exactly my height, the success, the wealth, the everything, right? But I can't remember it. And this has happened now four times there he's showing me that this is here. It's happening. It's it's like you walking, if you're walking continuously left, right, going around left, your whole life, just and then all of a sudden, you decide, I'm tired of going left, I want to go right. Okay, so now you start walking right. That version of your. Self is still walking left. You have to understand that there's a version of you walking right. There's a version of you now that is walking right, and there's a version that is still walking behind you right. Those versions of all your you know yourself is still taking place. You have 100 different versions of yourself right now, someone that is laying in a ditch, dirt poor, an addict or someone that's barely scraping by. You know, the you have many versions of yourself. You're talking about timelines right in your timeline that you're in right now, there are 100 different versions of yourself. Okay? So they were showing me the alignment of my soul's purpose, my higher self that I can't reach any higher that is the ultimate level to be at, right? Since sometimes and I'm like, then, why am I? Why am I in this job? Why? Why am I going through this? You know, I went through my dear, I'm on the spiritual path now. Why are you putting me back into something that's dead, that doesn't exist? Because the past doesn't exist. Everything in the world that is happening or in your life is now. It's everything is now. Okay. There is nothing two minutes ago, or, you know, five hours from now, it doesn't exist. Everything's happening now. So why am I in this Why did you put me in this situation? And then this image was given to me. It's like when you see an archer pulling back a bow right to pull that arrow back. But sometimes you reach into the past your old life before that arrow is let go into what is coming.

Alex Ferrari 1:31:28
And also you can actually turn that the other way correct, and you got to go down right until right so far, the farther you go down, the farther you're going to go. Up. That's correct when that arrow goes

Jason Janas 1:31:42
Right. And that is what is taking place in my life right now. So it may seem like, well, he's just homeless, he's a bum, he's this, he's that. Oh no, no. I'm being prepared for and molded for what is coming. And we as the this species, is very impatient. It wants now. It wants everything now, instant gratification, right? If I want an apple, I want an apple now, if I want this, I'm gonna write it wants that. And sometimes, you know, it's divine timing. It's all divine timing.

Alex Ferrari 1:32:11
So what's really interesting is we hear saying that everybody, everybody wants things now, now, now, there's a series that's on our streaming platform called wrote the Dharma, where our Yogi takes a group of people into the Himalayas on a motorcycle ride. It's wonderful series. And, you know, a lot of these people come from the from the West, and they are in the Himalaya, and they're like, and they're basically expecting this to be kind of like this cool little retreat, and we're going, you know, do yoga and the Himalayas, and I can Instagram this shot and all this kind of stuff, right? And the yogi's like, No, right? We are here to transcend. Yes, that was what he said. I was so, so profound. You are here to transcend. And this is not an easy path. And he basically started showing the mirror to everybody, and that's not a fun thing. But most people want enlightenment like they want fast food, right? But enlightenment, self realization, awakening from the dream, takes time and dedication and dedication, yes, and struggle, and it's and there's pain, all of it. It's again, back to the matrix. When Neil wakes up from the matrix and is brought into the real world, it is one of the most painful things, you know, the big the tubes, and he's in the thing, and then he's flushed down a toilet, essentially, and all this. And, you know, it's all of the His muscles are atrophied, all this kind of stuff, because that's in the great analogy of what it's like to wake up. It's going to be painful.

Jason Janas 1:33:51
Right! Everybody thinks that having this near death experience is beautiful and wonderful. And tell you, right? And tell you, but not only that when that happens, but then, you know, I went two years or three years later, I went through my ascension process into the 5d that was brutally painful. I lost 75 pounds. I was sick, I quit eating. I was dizzy, I fell out of the shower. I lost my job again. There's a pattern here, yeah, right, because what they're doing is they're building me to my highest self, right? Because this is the path that has to be taken. It's not easy

Alex Ferrari 1:34:27
Whether you're building your capacity, correct?

Jason Janas 1:34:30
So I transitioned from the carbon based body into the crystalline body. So what was taking place is high higher energy light is entering my body. My DNA is being was rewritten on a cellular level, transitioning from a carbon into a silica based Do you understand how painful that is? I was in excruciating pain, and that night was the first night I controlled healing my body, just like Jesus did. I was in the middle of my ascension, and. And I'm telling you all, it was brutally painful, brutally painful when I went through this and I my back pain was on an unimaginable level. I mean, I was beginning to sob unconditionally. It hurt so I could not lay on my side, on my back. I would have to turn every second to try and find comfort, and I couldn't. I got up and started walking. And I'm just in utter pain, just sobbing during this ascension. And then I laid back down in a fetal position, but my back was straight, and I began to breathe. I don't know how I began to do this, but I just began to breathe and control my breath. And then I said I and the Father are one. And then I switched over to mind and body are one right mind. And this went on for a while, and all of a sudden, I became juiced. I was vibrating at such a high frequency like every hair was standing up, and I could literally hear every heartbeat, ba, boom, boom. Boom. And then all of a sudden, a ring of energy from the top of my crown chakra came down to the middle of my neck or right between my shoulder blades, and then it just stopped vibrating. And I said, make it go away in my mind. And it went down my spine, and it crushed the pain in my lower back, and it went from 1000 probably, down to a 20, and I'm another ring came down and stopped right there, and I said, make it go away. And this is not out loud, and I'm just hearing my heartbeat and I'm feeling just me vibrating at such a high level. And it went down and it crushed the pain in my back. That is exactly how Jesus healed. Everybody could see. I could see the pain in my back, and I directed that healing energy to my lower back, and it healed my back right. And then I, because it was in so much pain, and I hadn't slept in a while, I passed out, and I was like, anything I can do you can do. And more came into my mind. I did exactly what Jesus did two millennia ago, but I healed myself. And when I when I will say, this is when you choose your parents, right? You create the body. The ego does Okay. And how does the body? How's the body, create it, right? So I just tell you, I juiced up and I raised my energy, right? You vibrate. We vibrate so high, like I told you in my near death experience, I was juiced. That was the same energy I was feeling that I was controlling. I was controlling my powers. We vibrate so high that when we begin to create our bodies, we lower our energy to such a low vibration that it begins to form physical mass. You begin to create your body. So when you get mom and dad to mate, right? That's it. The ego then begins to take over the body, and you know it as an infant, we're born. That is how a body is formed. We lower our energy vibration so low that it begins to form physical mass. And here we are, the ego. You look exactly the way you look, because that's the way your ego wants you to look. Same with me. That's how a baby or a fetus is formed. You lower your vibration, and now you are controlling how you look.

Alex Ferrari 1:38:31
And then the trick is to raise your vibration while still staying in this body. There you go, which is what the Masters do.

Jason Janas 1:38:37
That's what the Masters do. And that is where I am headed.

Alex Ferrari 1:38:40
That's we're all heading eventually, it could be

Jason Janas 1:38:42
All of us, all of all of us, but you're all on your own individual path, right and timeline and timeline, so you are all exactly where you need to be. So when people are watching this, I want you to understand that don't feel like, well, Jason's better than me. No, I'm not better than anybody here. I'm just further along than on my journey than you are. That's it. Anything that I can do, you can do as well and and I'm telling you this, all of you go within. Do not seek anything outside yourself. You will find pain, misery and death. Go within, because that is where you are. That is where everything is that God gave you on this journey, you will find nothing outside yourself. It is all an illusion and a dream.

Alex Ferrari 1:39:27
Jason, this has been a fascinating conversation, brother, where could people find out more about you and the work you're doing in the world?

Jason Janas 1:39:32
Ah, they can find me. I have my website, loveandlightjason.com, so you can find me there for one on ones or seminars or public speaking events, I'm more than happy to oblige you there. And of course, my YouTube channel, Love and Light Jason, .

Alex Ferrari 1:39:48
That's awesome, my friend. Do you have any final words or messages for the audience?

Jason Janas 1:39:54
I will always leave you with this. I love you all so very much. You are all beautiful. You are all perfect. Right, and you are all divine, and you are all right where you need to be. And I ask you to just love one another as I love you. You're all perfect.

Alex Ferrari 1:40:13
Jason, it has been a pleasure, my friend. Thank you so much for sharing all your stories, all your experiences, and hopefully it will help somebody on their path who's watching. And I appreciate you and everything you do until awake in this planet, my friend. So thank you.

Jason Janas 1:41:17
Absolutely again. Thank you, Alex, for having me. It's been an honor and a privilege here, and It was, it was a beautiful conversation.