Inside the Studio: Humanity’s New Cycle of Consciousness Begins with James Van Praagh

James Van Praagh 0:00
Everything has to be a moderation. Even life, everything is moderation. It should be in moderation. And I think the world that we knew is Bye, bye. I think it's a new world coming, and I think it's going to take a lot of changes. I do believe it's a time for us to break down and start up her again. So it's going to be rough. I think it's made depression. April is a month of assassinations. And what it feels like to me is there definitely is an end of a cycle and beginning of a new one. It's part of your development of a medium is you got no boundaries. You got no boundaries. Want to turn on one, turn off, and you work with your guides. No you do. You know you're doing your work when that happens.

Alex Ferrari 0:36
We have not listened to the nudges. And now the sledge hammers are coming out.

James Van Praagh 0:40
Sledge hammers are coming out, and then we got a two gotta go to our next level soul, just saying.

Alex Ferrari 0:46
I like to welcome to the show returning champion, James Van Praagh, how you doing James?

James Van Praagh 1:00
Good Alex, thank you for having me here, and I'm really honored to be in your studio. I'm very impressed. And thank you for those who are involved in watching this or listening to this as well. He did a lot of work.

Alex Ferrari 1:12
Well, I appreciate that very, very much. Thank you so much, James. Well, you have been an inspiration to me for all the work that you've been doing in this space as a producer and making amazing conscious content before it was in vogue,

James Van Praagh 1:26
I think so

Alex Ferrari 1:28
Before it was in vogue. Yeah, you produced the you created the ghost whisper with Jennifer Levitt and many other shows as well. So, you know, I think the first time you and I sat down, we it was like peas and carrots. Right away, right away. We kind of got it. Yeah, you know, I try to be as authentic as I can. I know you do as well. So I think we could smell our own, yeah, yes, as we're recording this. This is the day after next level souls Ascension Conference, our first ever conference. And man, wasn't it? It was wonderful. Wasn't it a trip?

James Van Praagh 2:04
It was a trip. And everybody should go next time, next year, we're gonna push that. Yeah, it was an incredible time for people. And people came from all over the world, which I was amazed by me, all over the world so and there was tears, there was tears laughter and there was insights from a lot of people, and change and ascension and ascension opening to ascend. And everybody had an experience. Every single person there, I believe, had an experience. So that's great. It's and all different modalities you presented for people to have experiences, right? Yeah, sweet, breathing and channeling and comedy comedy mediums and mediums and mediums and stuff. Yeah, you presented so many different ways in for people, which is what we tried to do, and which you try to do, so many different ways in many different types of people you affect.

Alex Ferrari 2:52
It was wonderful. And I appreciate you coming down. It was and I had never seen you work.

James Van Praagh 2:56
Well, that's interesting, because I was thinking, Alex, never seen work. Did you enjoy watching? Yeah, so, I mean, I mean, obviously you're probably thinking that's not the James that I know a whole other

Alex Ferrari 3:07
No, you go into another world, yeah. Well, I mean, we have your show on a Next Level Soul TV Beyond, beyond, which is we have like 140, 140 episodes, something like that, of that, and I saw it there. You know what you did there? But I never see so first, that's very different. It's a very different experience in person where you were actually in you were on the stage and and you're like, okay, hold on a second. All right, I see, okay, there's someone who just lost a business partner who who did this and that, and talking about, there's checks. I'm thinking it's over on this side of the room, towards the back. Does that make sense for anybody here? And you see a hand, just lady, one hand goes up, like, all right, stand up, yeah. It's, uh, he says, Don't worry about the chain in the drawer. It's gonna be fine, you know, like it was. And she's like, does that make sense to you? Is there a Larry or a Lawrence or something. And yes, it was just so fascinating.

James Van Praagh 4:05
Yeah, it's and it's what I liked a lot, was there was a man whose father came through in the back, yes, and I love that spirit comes through and affects that because many times when you get men in your audience, you had a lot of men in that audience, which I've never seen that many men for an audience for like a conference. And I was so honored that, you know, by themselves, it was great from all of the world. And then the one man, whenever a spirit comes through and gives a reading to a gentleman, it sounds terrible, but true, because men typically don't come to these things, and they're harder many times to get through to. And wow, it was an amazing experience to read that man and his father came through. And he was, I think he was kind of shocked as a lot he was, but that could help all the people in the audience, especially the men and relationships with fathers. So that was really interesting. One thing I remember I talked to the beginning, which is really true now that you've seen Me, me work, that one message is for everybody.

Alex Ferrari 4:59
Yes. If you're in a group, that message can resonate throughout the entire because we're all having that you may experience so you all can and also, I think it was that, man, if it wasn't, was one of the other ones who you said something like your mother, she was, she a caregiver to children. I see a lot of children around Oh, yeah, it might have been another one. Might have been another one. That's right, it was a lot of children around you. And he's like, no, no, there's nothing. All right, just think about it. And then, like we did, then later in the day, we had a panel discussion where everyone could do Q&A, he walked up and goes, James, I just want to let you know I just remember, yes, before I was born, my mother was an au pair. She also helped raise children. I never think of her that way, because she's just my mom, but that's right, she was before I was born. I was like, that's fun. And that happens all the time.

James Van Praagh 5:44
Happens all the time. People forget their first names. I was once an audience with New York, and it was a first row, and this mother came through for her son, and she said, I want to give love to Michael. My Michael, my Michael. And said, Sir, does that mean anything to you? And he goes, and his wife, who's sitting next to him, is poking him. She goes, honey, that's your name. So, you know, it's weird, because it's a weird type of thing. You're in this space where you just they're in awe. They're not sure this is happening. Wow, is this real. And it kind of, they go the state of unconsciousness. I mean, they forget where the names, what they when they were born, the type of work they do, yet happens, and that's where you got to hold the space. You know, I'm responsible save that space and be wait till the hits. And if it doesn't, I'll always say, then keep it. Write it down, or keep it for later, like this gentleman yesterday, happens a lot. It's part of the experience.

Alex Ferrari 6:38
It's There was one lady, she was bawling. It was about her mom. She was absolutely bawling. I heard later, she was like, literally in the bathroom, just bawling her eyes. It just released something. Yes, it does. It happens a lot, and that's the thing that's really interesting when you when, when people have these kind of experiences. I've seen it now live, which was really, really interesting to feel there's

James Van Praagh 7:02
One thing to talk about when you actually experience it live.

Alex Ferrari 7:05
When you experience it live, it was something really I mean, I sat there watching this woman, she was just almost inconsolable as you were talking, because it just all resonated so much. And I think we all have this yearning for connection to our past loved ones, people who have passed over, especially if we have unsolved, unresolved issues and things like that.

James Van Praagh 7:27
Well, that's just it. So. So really, to me, hell, people do their Heaven and Hell. Hell to me is regret. Hell to me is when we pass over we look back at our lives. Oh, I should have would as I could have unfinished business. You know, I should have done this. I should have done that, and that, that, to me, is really hard. We hold on to these things in the human life. And if we can let you know, it's very interesting, we could have our life review while we're still in the body, right? We do things a little bit differently. I think there are a couple of readings yesterday with messages about forgiveness, which often comes through subject. And, you know, they made it clear you don't have to call someone up, or you're just maybe you can write a card, or even if you had to to sit in meditation and send the healing, send forgiveness to that person. That's really important that we do that, you know, because we never, we should never judge another, because we don't know their background, we don't know where they've come from. So how, who are we to judge? You know, right?

Alex Ferrari 8:21
Yeah, no, there's no there's no question it is. It's pretty powerful to see how important these, these souls that have passed are to us, depending on where you who their mom, dad and, you know, son, daughter, this or that. But it was pretty moving to see, almost a shock, because I'm assuming, in your work over the years, they're skeptics, obviously,

James Van Praagh 8:45
Oh yeah, I started with the skeptics, Right exactly. I didn't know what they were when they said, You do cold readings, but what's the cold reading? I know what they're talking about. And then I thought, how could they say they don't even know me? So they talk about me. And I had to understand that it was just I was only took all the bullets when he first came out.

Alex Ferrari 8:59
I gotta ask you this, James, because you know, in the space that I'm in right now with the show, you know, there's obviously people who don't like what we do, like everybody. There's always critics of everything. Always critics.

James Van Praagh 9:12
Well, especially, let me just throw sorry to interrupt you, but when you're shifting the paradigm, when you're changing that paradigm that people are used to, that they're comfortable with, and you're throwing in a whole new way of thinking and being. You know, you're coming up against them. Wow, I gotta change my way of thinking. I get so but that's real change. Rock foundation rocks, the foundation. That's real change. You know, you do? You know you're doing your work when that happens?

Alex Ferrari 9:35
Well, then, girl,

James Van Praagh 9:40
You are, and it's more and more and more so.

Alex Ferrari 9:42
It's no, it's pretty remarkable. But when you were doing this, I mean, you've been doing this now about 40 years,

James Van Praagh 9:48
I was thinking on the way over here, how long has been? It's been close to, like 95 so close to it, yeah,

Alex Ferrari 9:55
Close to 40 years you've been doing this, yeah. And when you started, it's not. In vogue, or it was not around to be, you know, in a psychic, you know, you were in that early crop of TV side gates,

James Van Praagh 10:08
The only one, oh, I was the first one out there, and Sylvia Brown was another one. She was after me. Yeah, I was, I was up there on the other side in the first show sheet. It was the other side, for sure. I was what, I'm still Mr. Zen, the other side NBC show, and it was very frequent. A lot of my clients knew of Sylvia. I'd never met her, and it was funny, we're on stage with me her and all these other intuitive or psychic people, and we're all there. And during the commercial break, I looked down Sylvia, nice to meet you, and she goes, it's good to see men doing this job, and our histories began. And yeah, so that was, but I was the first one out there before John Edward, really, before, I mean, George Anderson was the only one on Long Island who had done one TV thing, just a guest shot, I think. But really was my appearance on the other side, and then Larry King, that really kind of opened up everything for for everybody, and made it like, yeah, made it open for for many others. And now you look on television or online, it's like, everybody's into it. But when I did it, it was, yeah, I got the bullets and the skeptic So and, you know, I was probably meant to do it, obviously, because it didn't affect me. And it really made me Wayne Dyer and our very good friends, Wayne Dyer and myself and Brian Weiss and Deepak, and we used to go around the country, do little conferences around there. And I remembered Wayne said something which I, you know, we joke, you know, I used to joke with him, I'm going to use that. And I still do, what are the other people think of you as none of your business.

Alex Ferrari 11:42
Yeah, he said, if I make, if I can quote him exactly, was be free of the good opinion of others.

James Van Praagh 11:49
Oh, yeah. Okay, that was Wayne. That was another one. And I've used that, and I taught that, and it's true, because no one knows you better than you know yourself. So I've always one thing about me, Alex, when I did started doing this work, and since I was a kid, I mean, right now I'm writing my autobiography, so I'm reliving a lot of this stuff, and I've always come in, I think I've come into this world like I think you probably have as well. That's what we get along so well as I believe I knew who I was. I knew I was very beginning. I was a survivor. I you know, I knew it, and I always had a sense of who I was. That was the only way to do. I just knew it. And when I'd see spirit, when I was a little boy, and I'd see lights and colors around people, and in those days, you know, children measure their environment with the experience. And I thought, Well, I see these colors and, you know, no one else did, and the friends will be crazy and you're nuts, and that's fine, but it was like, that was my experience. My experience was seeing these things, and to me, they were very real. They were more real than many other things. So I had to stay with that, even though people said you're you're mental, you're wrong, you're crazy, you're this. And when my first experience happened, when I first brought through a spirit for a girl I was working with a co worker, and it was almost like the sixth sense with a grandmother's behind her. You saw her? Yeah, she walked into her cubicle. I was in my cubicle, and as she bought her cubicle after lunch, this woman was behind there was a spirit, and she stared at me like and it was very much a success, really, to freak her out, freaked me out. I said, do you understand about the lady here? She's from Idaho, White House, yellow shutters and all these details. Oh yeah, that's my grandmama. She promised me she'd come back. So she was cool with it. She's She was cool.

Alex Ferrari 13:27
She was cooler than you were when

James Van Praagh 13:29
She was cool than I was. Because then I thought, what's going to happen to me? Because, Am I going crazy? Because there was no reference again, so there really wasn't this before anything. And I said, Wow, this is kind of weird. Am I going crazy? And I ran out of Paramount Studios I was working. I ran into my apartment, and it was just strange, because I couldn't call anyone and ask them, because, you know, they might think that was no podcast. There's no folks. So I called up the medium that I went to many years before, and he said, James the spirit, people made the prediction that you're doing this work, and it was two years to the day that that prediction was made, and he took me under his wing and taught me for seven years. And, yeah, that's how it all happened. And then I was just, you know, showbiz was in my blood, yeah. So I started doing I really wanted to have be involved with productions that would open up the mind. And you were early. I was early. Well, got things going, so, yeah, now you can just take it away, fly, my friend, fly. And that's what you're doing in your way. You know, I opened it up the door to change the conscious, and you're just now going to do it. And you know the way of these times.

Alex Ferrari 14:32
Well, I'll tell you. I mean, we're all, I think everybody in the space is on your shoulders, and other, you know, other visionaries like you that came out in those early days, who had the bravery, you know, like dari Lanka with the show, like, I mean, and, you know, Abraham and these other kind of

James Van Praagh 14:51
Jack Purcell,

Alex Ferrari 14:54
All these that came out when it wasn't cool, yeah, when it was like, Hey, I'm. Fringe. It was definitely fringe, or in the back of a new age bookstore, yes, on a Sunday afternoon or something like that. Doing many of those exactly, that's all you could do, you know. And I'm assuming, like watching, you watching what's happening with, you know, the awakening of humanity, and that, you know, a show like ours, or even the conferences that the conference we went to yesterday. You seeing men in there and all this kind of stuff. I gotta imagine you looking I'm like, my god,

James Van Praagh 15:26
Well, to see all the men in that room, I was like, so impressed. I've done 1000s of conferences, and most said, Say Good, 70% women, maybe 75 and the men want you to drag their brother wives, but to see all these guys there without their wives? Yeah, I'm from all over the world. I was really impressed, and that's thanks to you, because you've reached them. And one thing about me, which is interesting, many things about you not interesting, sir, I just kind of keep up with myself. One thing about being a teacher that I have, you know, my online school and so forth, I've always been and I'm gonna say it, integrity is big for me. I'm a Capricorn rising all but integrity and responsibility. And I'm just very aware, like when I put it some on television that I'm teaching, I'm teaching them masses wherever I have to open up a mind in a positive way, and has to be done for the right intention. And I see stuff on television, stuff out there which is not, which is not, which is just to get whatever. Yeah, money, money, greed and no integrity. And to me, it's like it's really teaching, teaching. So when I did ghost whisper, the show ghost whisper, I remember I'd argue with CBS, because it was Disney and CBS, but I would CBS was on my side, and Disney, I think, wanted to change it. They wanted to change the show, the format, and they wanted to make it very fear based. And the beginning was very fear based, and at the end, they want to keep it very fear based. And I said, I won't do the show. You can't put my name on it if it doesn't end up in a positive light that, because you're putting that out to the ethers for people. And I want the show to end in a very healing, positive, loving light. That's who we are. You can bring them in this circumstance with the fear and say, Ooh, the interest, but at the end, there's got to leave in love, because that's you want to leave the universe in love. And I think that's responsibility, as you know, and that's the reason why I'm here with you, and because you did exactly that way, your integrity, your integrity, and you do things of the highest manner. You You know, as I'm looking your studio visiting today, you do things that really in the highest of, yeah, yeah, the highest integrity.

Alex Ferrari 17:32
I appreciate that very much, James, when you were saying that like that, you know, your show led with a little bit of fear to get them in. And then it ends healing. It's kind of like, what I talk about all the time is like, I'm in the business of selling chocolate covered broccoli. And you know, if you sell it as broccoli, it's going to be a tougher sell, but if you sell it as chocolate bite, it has to be dark chocolate. I'm not a savage and if they take a bite, they get some of the broccoli in with the chocolate, and then, oh, wait a minute, I kind of like the broccoli. And there you go. But you have to kind of, you know, because I'm not, and I think you weren't either. But I'm not going after the converted, correct, because they're converted already, and they can enjoy the content that we create and everything that we do. I'm looking for the construction worker who just lost their mom, yeah, and wants to know if they're okay, right? And they'll watch an n, d, e, and then they'll go, Oh, who's this? James Van, what? I can't say his last name, like, Who's that guy? Oh, he's Oh. And what's this over there? Is that quantum physics. And there you go down different rabbit holes. And that's who I'm going after. I think that's one of the reasons why so many men by themselves showed up.

James Van Praagh 18:45
It's pretty remarkable. Yeah, they're all different types of backgrounds, which was like, Great, yeah,

Alex Ferrari 18:50
I have to ask you, though, when you were going through the beginnings of this and you were taking the arrows like they say, the first one through the door is always the bloodiest, yeah, the first one over the hill gets the arrows in the back, yeah. How did you just deal with I mean, I know you said it didn't bother me, but as a human being, it still has to. I mean, especially maybe it doesn't bother this version of James, but I imagine 40 year old, 40 years ago, James was probably not nearly as armored and shrapnel as he is now that, like, it bounces off you now, but back then, I have to imagine there was some sort of emotional toll that even like, why am I doing this? Why do I keep going?

James Van Praagh 19:29
Well, I never had that. Well, why am I doing this? I just fell ahead to do it, and I didn't really get involved with I just didn't. It wasn't like, they don't understand what I'm doing. So I didn't, that's something that wasn't what I was doing it for. I was doing for, you know, the healing of people, and for the work itself. The only time, if I can think back, one of the only times that I was upset about it was I did the view with Barbara Walters. And what happened was, it was probably the fourth or fifth time I was doing the view, and I loved. Joy. And then, you know what love would be. You know, they've changed over the years after that. But I remember Barbara was on that and I walked into the green room, I saw her auric field, and was like, this looks bad. I said, Oh, she has dementia. I see it. And I said, Her heart's bad too. Oh, geez. I said, Oh, and she's slowed down. Her energetic body was slowed down. And I, you know, I first met Barbara years before, and I went to her office and an ABC, and I gave her a reading for her father, and he came through and talked about things and and I read her assistant, the secretary, and her mother, cancer came through great, great stuff. And I'd be the first like, this isn't, you know, right, or whatever, but I'm not like that. So anyway, I did the I did the view, and I did I was doing, and Elizabeth Hassel, I gotta say I liked her. She was so we might not have the same politics, but she was so respectful of guests. And I was really impressed. And and Whoopi was as well. And I'm doing some readings for the audience, and they were saying myself, pretty good connections. I was kind of impressed. And I remember someone was one of the people saying, Oh, it was joy. Joy is the back and enjoys a friend. She goes, Well, what about and what? He goes, be quiet, let him finish. And it was great. So that was that Barbara was there, and we sat down at the end, and I said the barber to her commercial break. If you ever want a reading, I'd be more than happy to, because I could tell she was kind of diminishing. This is 5,6,7, years before she passed. So I at the end of the taping was, show was over, and you can give me I'll read now. I said, Okay. And I should have said no, but I just thought, Okay, I'll do it now, because I see her state. And we started doing research. We were on the side of the stage. I said, you have to take off your sound, your microphone. It's no one's business but your own. And I read her, and I said, Your heart's not good. I said something, but your heart and your practice? No, I feel fine. So okay, just that's what I'm getting, and that's and that's what I got, very clearly, well, then the next day, or two days later, I think it was, I was at a friend's mother's funeral, and it was at their house having a reception party, and someone came up and said, Barbara is bad mouthing you on the view. And I turned it on, and she was that, James, I'm proud, you know, he, he said My heart was bad. And I went to my surgeon out of surge, pulled him out of surgery, and he said, You're fine, your heart's fine, and that James Bond shouldn't be doing this and hurting people. Well, I had no they didn't invite me back to speak to her. It was just like millions of people or didn't even hear my point of view how workers. And then years later, she does have a heart issue, I should study for heart issue that leaves later, and it's like, wow. And that the skeptics got a hold of that, and they put it all over the internet, and I didn't get gigs on television because of that, yeah, when you put my name in there over this Barbara Walters, yeah, and that was hurtful, because, like, you know what? That wasn't fair. You know, I don't mind people criticize him, but give me a chance to counteract them. Talk about it.

Alex Ferrari 23:03
Let me ask you, James, why do you think that happened to you and that's great of your, of your life journey? Because it doesn't. It's happened for a reason. Anything that negative happens to us happens, yeah, for a learning lesson. But I'm just curious, because that was a pretty big punch. Yeah, it's a pretty big punch.

James Van Praagh 23:14
It hurt me because it helped. It held me back from helping more people. It held me back from being on other shows and creating, reaching more people, reaching more people. And that was a, yeah, that was, that was tough. So, yeah, that's tough. I mean, it was what it was, and I'm just fine, but it could, I could reach a lot more people. And unfortunately, it was because producers do these shows, they just look you up, and if they see, oh, Barbara wolves has said he's a phony or whatever, then they won't do it. So I've had a lot of

Alex Ferrari 23:17
It took you years to come back from it.

James Van Praagh 23:21
It was upsetting, and that way, well, then he died of the heart issue and dementia. I was like, I felt vindicated, no, but yeah, that's that's something which was hard, because I'm such an honest person, and then to have that was like, wow, that's just wrong. But it is what it is what it is part of this human experience. And I forgive the lady, you know? Yeah, it is what it is, and that's all that it is. So

Alex Ferrari 24:08
You were saying that when you were in that cubicle and you saw this, basically, her grandmother goes behind her, I would I talked to you? Yes, I think it's yesterday or the day before yesterday, when we were like, you know, do you see, do you see dead people walking around all the time? And then you told me, No, no, I'm closed right now. Yeah. And that's a very important thing for people, really important. And I talk to other psychics like that sometimes, because when they first start, they don't know how to put the clothes sign on.

James Van Praagh 24:36
That's what I teach my school, because you have to know. And it's couple recently from a lot of the students, they need to know the the mechanics of mediumship, and the mechanics of mediumship and channeling and mediumship is you need to know when to turn on that sense, that part of the mind to be receptive and to be the vessel. And then when you're done, you have to turn it off, whether it's closing a curtain, whether it's switching a lot. Right off. And it's really important because it affects the adrenal system of the body, endocrine system. And I often say to my students, just think of the analogy of like a ceiling fan. And if the ceiling fan is always on, you know, and it'll eventually burn out the motor, and that's why it has to go off. Same with our adrenal system, because mediums and psychics and channels, just the adrenals are being overtaxed, overused. This is our power pack, and when you're overusing it, it can start breaking down. And that's why it's so important that people who do this work realize you've got to turn on and turn off. It can't be like running around again. Here I go again, not to put anyone down, but Theresa Caputo, you know, lovely lady. I met her. Was lovely. I met her husband, who's nice as well. But the and this is ignorance of the producers. I got to say that even with Tyler Henry, the ignorance producers don't know the the mechanics of mediumship. So Theresa, they portrayed it and to the public that which she just goes out and she's open every the spirits around her all the time. She goes the bakery, and then someone comes in and, well, I don't know if she's been not taught not to do that, but for me, such a stickler to demonstrate that to the public, it sends misinformation to the public about mediumship that you can't always be on. You've got to be turned off. So I prefer going to the butcher. Stop saying, Okay, I'm going to open up right now. And now I feel as a woman here, that would be the appropriate thing to do, because, remember, you're teaching the public. They're looking to you for the expertise. And if they don't have the right way of doing it, and they're hurt, because they could hurt people. You know, if people start doing that and don't realize how to modulate things and integrate things and close down, it could hurt them physically. I've met many mediums died of internal stuff going on, whether it's a cancer with certain disease, leukemia, because their adrenals were overtaxed. Really important.

Alex Ferrari 26:50
So when you so it's kind of like in ghost with Whoopi Goldbergs like Sam, yeah, I can't you. They've come out of the woodwork. They're all over the place. Obviously, Whoopi, in that movie, that character didn't understand what was happening. She was playing a fake psychic, that's right. And then she all of a sudden, like, oh no, oh crap, I'm real psychic now.

James Van Praagh 27:08
So that does happen, Alex, where I go into a space and I'm aware of all the spirits around me. I'm very aware of them. Yesterday, I was aware of them before I even started in the conference, I was aware of them. I'll walk into a space and be aware of them. I will not engage until I'm ready to work and you see them, but you don't engage. Yeah, I see them, I feel them. I sense them. Yeah, very much. Now, recently, my brother passed over, not too far away, and he has come through me in ways where I'm surrendered in the I'm getting massage. He comes to me. I'm not thinking about driving while he comes to me, and I allow that only because he's your brother. He's my brother, and he's not taxing me. And yeah, so that that's a little different. But I'm not every day going, Okay, let's talk. I just, you just can't do it, and he's part of your development. Of the medium is you got no boundaries. You got no boundaries. Want to turn on one, turn off, and you work with your guides and your guides, you know when you're they're going to work with it, the instrument. And to me, an instrument is like a piano. It's going to be properly tuned and work to its capacity. And if you're not correct in your taking care of the instrument, it could break down. So I want to get the most out of my vessel as a man too, and I've got to do my responsibility as the human here. I've got to take care of myself. And that means, obviously, you can't drink caffeine or wine or alcohol, is it? Oh, yes, I can. But everything has to be a moderation. Even life, everything is moderation. It should be moderation. So, you know,

Alex Ferrari 28:38
I have to ask you, James, have you ever been drunk? And I've been drunk quite so, if you've ever been drunk, what happens to your ability? Martin right here, yeah. I mean, that's an Irish Coffee, no. But if you ever been, like, completely not like, inebriated, but just so, like, you're you've drank a bunch that night, you're tipsy, you're a little loopy, or something like that, what happens to your abilities? I've never asked that question.

James Van Praagh 29:01
It's interesting, because a lot of interesting because a lot of a lot of mediums, some of my students started asking me these questions. And really, it's interesting because a lot of people start doing readings when they're drinking, and they'll do this was funny. You know, someone says, coming through this because they're lowering debt, they're lowering the selves down, sure, opening themselves up, of course, nervous. What just flows, right?

Alex Ferrari 29:22
That makes sense, yeah? Because you now you're taking off the the ego, the mind, it's all starting to kind of weigh down. So now you're open, much more, much more open, dangerous, dangerous way of doing the business,

James Van Praagh 29:31
Dangerous way in many respects. Because also, you know, you're just open, you're also, when you drink, it slows you down. So you're lowering that vibration, and you're lowering it down. And that's why I always say in my books that one should never be be aware when you go into bars, clubs, things that you've really got to protect yourself your energetic field, because you're going to a vibration which really slow and down. And listen, I think there are those beings. These spirit beings, if you will, who have passed over, who still are at a lower level, and that they miss the drink, that they miss those places, and they do haunt them. I do believe that. And they will haunt those places, those old Hangouts, and they want to have that last bit of the drink. And spirits can actually, if we have a drink, they can get the essence of that drink, plus they have the memory of it. So the memory and the essence, they won't get drunk because they're not physical, but they get the essence. So they might, you've heard of hangers on, so they could be hangers on. And I do believe that I don't know anything till I pass over, but I do believe that they can influence those of a weaker nature, if, let's say they're very mediumistic, that's why a lot of mediums, also by the different mediums and so forth, would be alcoholic many times, because you couldn't deal with a higher vibration and slow it down. And that's very dangerous, because I call them Bill hanging on hangers on, and not that happens all the time, but you got to be mindful of your space that you go in. And I mean, I can go into bars and clubs, but I would definitely prepare myself, surround myself with an energy, or meditate before I enclose the seal of my field. I do it every day. Before I go to the human world, I'll do a shower and I cleanse the physical body. Then I cleanse my mental body, and I will imagine beautiful, golden, loving light coming in and around me. And before I got the shower, and I say, and it's very interesting when I do that and bring in that loving light. And then I close my eyes, and I imagine, out of my fingertips, under my toes, like a Hershey syrup, like a heavy energy that's negative energy, or someone else's energy in my space. Because every day we meet people, their energy, particles of their energy stay in our space. So I want to clear with that away and same. And every night, before I go to sleep, I go through my whole day, and I see where I left, my my voice, my connection, and I bring back my energy. And he also send the other person's energy back to them. So before, but before I go my day, I program it, and they say, I'm after my energetic. Cleanse the shower. Then before I go out of that shower, I'll say, may God go before me and show me the way. So I set that vibrational tone surrounding me. And it really works. So like attracts like, and that magnetic sense you're attracting one, that highest frequency. I used to do it all the time. Would hear this one before I go on the universe a lot. It's on the side of the one on one for

Alex Ferrari 32:20
You.

James Van Praagh 32:22
I've been there anytime, yeah, so before you go any lot, I'd always sit and really surround myself and protect myself.

Alex Ferrari 32:29
You definitely have to do that when you walk on any Hollywood, oh yeah, oh yeah. Can you imagine? I gotta imagine that when you were on, like, the universal back lot, or Warner Brothers or Disney. I mean, they're ghosts. Oh, there are ghosts. I mean literally, like, I'm old actors, maybe, who have you seen? Like, what did you ever see? Well,

James Van Praagh 32:47
I didn't want to open up completely. I didn't at all, because I was in the middle of a studio and as work with producers who were just horrible and cutthroat and shocking. Well, I hired them in the season this show being really, really popular, and then they went, they tried firing me. And I said, Wait a minute, I'm your boss. So what about so it was all like that. It was like, think about you have desperate actors actresses trying to get a job. There's all producers about money and trying to get the money. There's, there's so many dynamics going on, politics, politics. Are you on a set? Oh my gosh, it's crazy.

Alex Ferrari 33:21
If you're on a set and the director even shows a slight, slight weakness, it's like blood in the water. The crew will turn on them. The actors could turn on them, the producer could turn on them. Yeah, it's fascinating to see. Like, I've been challenged so many times on set, yeah, as I came up from first ad. Sure I'm paying you exactly, and you're giving me crap. That's right. It's fascinating.

James Van Praagh 33:46
We had before the show goes whisper. It was very interesting, because so many interesting dynamics there. But I I predicted the show was going to this, and it happened. And I said, if we can get these Disney and see in a room together, and I'll do readings, we'll sell the show, and to get them together. Was like, oh my goodness, what? Oh no, no, no. Forget it crazy. And it was development season. So literally, some guy comes in from Disney at some person's houses. How long is it gonna take? I gotta read some scripts. And I said, Well, just see. We'll see what happens and change his life. Something came through. But really was wild, because it was really, really interesting. We had a lady by the name Marianne wankowski, and she's a earthbound Ghostbuster, I guess you say so, in her experience, she would tune into those spirits that would not go over that they were Earthbound, and I deal with them once they're over there. But she was very interesting because she said, Well, there are many souls that will not go into that light for whatever reason she goes. There are many who love their work here, and they'll stay here. We were once having, we once went through the universe a lot, and we did a tour, and she would tell us who was there and who was there. And there were these old stage hands over there. There are actors and actresses, some well known work. Sun man. And she would mention, and we looked it all up, and sure enough, it all made sense. And I remember another time we were at a restaurant in West Hollywood, and we're sitting there, and she goes, I said, so just like you're asking me, Are they always there? She goes, Well, I'm aware of them, many, but not all that. They're not all over the place, certain places, they are a lot of them. And I said, Well, a couple of great stories. I might have told you one of these, but so sitting. She goes, there's a man sitting on the steps. I said, there's a man. She goes, he's about 30 years old, is it? And and he's got he's gay. I said, Okay. And she said, he doesn't want to go to the other side show so he knows I can see him. I said, Okay. She goes, he doesn't want to go over to the other side because he was raised religiously, and his mind, Father relate, relate to him that he's, you know, if he goes, if he's gay, he's going to hell. He's going right to hell, of course. So he was afraid to go into the light, because he's so good, right to hell, sort of stayed behind on Earth. I thought that was fascinating,

Alex Ferrari 35:53
Yeah, because the programming was so heavy here, yes, that it literally transfers over. And so my understanding, James, when, um, when someone's transferring over or transitioning over to the other side, there's a transition period where they're kind of like decompressing from this experience. And many of them can do it very quickly. Many of them go into the life review, and it's and they have help. But others are, I've had some near death experiencers who were so like they were told to the hell and all that stuff. They believed they needed to go to hell. So when they went to the other side, they actually had a hellish near death experience. Until they go, I'm done, I need help. And then Jesus or an angel or someone shows up, a light shows up, and all the negative goes away, and they're able to ascend. But a lot of times that programming is so hard that they can't leave

James Van Praagh 36:44
Exactly right, exactly what it is. It's in their mindset. And that's why it's really important for people to have an awareness of life after death, of what happens after death, that what you carry in your mind will bring you to the side, the love that you make here bring you meet when you pass over. And it really helps to realize that it's a natural occurrence. I'm doing a podcast tonight on my podcast about a man, a friend of mine, who's getting ready to pass and it's a show about living to dying and how to prepare for death. And we, every day, can prepare death by doing the right thing. But really, there's much, much more just this physical body. I have one more. So I gotta say about that Earth, about things. So let's talk with Mary one cowski for our show. She said, which is really interesting. She goes, well, people got it all wrong. Cemeteries aren't haunted. There's no energy. They can't draw from any energy. No earthbound spirit can draw from any energy. Said, Oh, that makes interesting. So where would they be? Would be most haunted places dentist offices and airports and doctors, but mostly she's the dentist and airports. My dentists, people are afraid. So it's the fear energy that they hold on to. That fear energy to hold them kind of down here, into gravitation. It's the fear energy that's what they hold on to.

Alex Ferrari 37:56
So they're, they're also probably on war zones and things like that as well,

James Van Praagh 37:59
Yes, but it really well established a doctors as well, doctors, hospitals, hospitals, hospital, hospitals, for sure. So this is an interesting story. So I remembered that, and I was once in Nashville, and I think it was a long time in Nashville, and I'm, I'm taking a plane back, and as an hour waiting in the airport, and I'm walking around, and I noticed, as this man going back and forth. And he's a ghost. He's a spirit. Like, huh? No, I'm not really tuned in, because I don't want to be. But for some reason, this impression, he's making an impression on in my mind. And he's walking back and forth, his big, thick glasses. He's looking back and forth, back forth, like, Okay, I see the dude. I'm not going to let him know that I see. I'm not going to put my mind to him. I'm aware of my perfect vision of him. And it's not that he's coming over to me, but he's I see more around me. Personally. I see him around so eventually go on the plane, and I'm sitting there in the first class, and this beautiful blonde lady's next to me, and all sudden, I see the ghost, the guy coming to the plane, like, oh my gosh, the guy with the dark hair and the glass like, Oh, he's a plane. Oh, geez. What's gonna happen now? So as I'm talking, the plane takes off. I don't worry when the plane takes off, and then I'm aware at one point that he's kind of behind me. Okay, this guy is trying to get to me. What the heck? And as I'm talking, I'm talking to the lady next to me, this lovely lady. We're talking about different things. She's in LA and she goes, you know, my husband wasn't music. I said, Oh, was he? She goes, yeah, and he was Roy Orbison. I said, Oh, that's who it is. Roy Orbison is a man with the glasses of book.

Alex Ferrari 39:36
He wrote pretty women. Pretty Woman, not the movie, yeah.

James Van Praagh 39:41
I mean, he was incredible, man, but I you know, then was it up for me to say, Guess what? He's right here. I couldn't do it. I couldn't do that.

Alex Ferrari 39:48
No, no, yeah. And also, you're trapped up in the air. So if anything goes wrong and she starts freaking out or something, you can't go anywhere.

James Van Praagh 39:54
It wouldn't be appropriate.

Alex Ferrari 39:56
And there is something to be said about that, where mediums. Yes. I mean, mediums have a responsibility, a big response, big responsibility, not to just walk up to somebody and go listen grandma just here and she wants to talk to you, like, if you don't, it's solicited.

James Van Praagh 40:12
It's more like the ego is speaking instead of, you know, they do from an ego point of view, yeah, I think, or an ignorance they don't.

Alex Ferrari 40:19
I had, I had at the conference yesterday, I had a psychic show up, like she's one of the, you know, one of the participant, participants of the conference, and she walks up to me. She's like, Alex, I don't normally do this, but I have a really strong message for you. And I'm like, I'm cool. Like, if there's anyone you could, I'll fine. I I'm down. You're very open. I'm very open. It's solid. I'm not prominent. She gave me this message. I was like, I know. Thank you so much. I already knew what she was saying. It was a kind of a message to kind of reiterate the urgency of what I need to do. So I was like, I appreciate that. It's just kind of like a little push. And I was like, okay, so that happens.

James Van Praagh 41:00
She came from good place. That was what's the intention behind.

Alex Ferrari 41:03
Yeah, she was very beautiful. She was just trying to help, right? It wasn't anything crazy. It was just a bit one message, very simple, very point, very straight into the point. And, of course, and when gentlemen like yourself come on the show, I you know, Alex, I have something to tell you. Like, yeah,

James Van Praagh 41:22
I wouldn't tell you in public. I would tell you privately,

Alex Ferrari 41:25
Correct! Exactly, yeah, on public, yeah. Unless we ask, like, hey, I need a reading. James, can you give me one really? Yeah? Like that. It's different. But, you know, off air, I just get so I'm used to it. Channels do it to me all the time. So I'm kind of used to that stuff. But I get it for someone who's uninitiated or has is not open to that. It could, it could destroy. It could really destroy their life. Could hurt them. It could hurt them very badly, because it just rocked their foundation. It could open up. It's very

James Van Praagh 41:51
It's more important for that medium or that psychic than it is for the recipient. Thing that's not right. I always think you need permission. I mean, I teach this in my classes about integrity and responsibility, and you really need to be, remember you're holding someone's life a thin piece of glass, and your job is not to destroy them, but to build them up. That's really, really important. But a lot of people don't get that, and that's really important part of the work that you know, and I don't know, Alex, if that's starting to fade away

Alex Ferrari 42:20
From people, as far as the responsibility, yeah, I don't know. Well, I think

James Van Praagh 42:25
Only because we see TV shows I'm coming up to you,

Alex Ferrari 42:29
It's, it's, I think that that this awakening that we're all going through right now, and humanity is going through right now, is opening up a lot of things, yeah, and certainly, and just like perfect example, when I was editing back in the days, you'll understand this. I was an avid editor for a long time, sure, and as an avid editor, and bear with me, everyone this, there's a point to this story. As an avid editor, it was a half a million dollar editing system so that alone let only a handful of people do the job. Then the technology got really inexpensive, where Final Cut showed up and when Final Cut Pro showed up. Then for a couple $1,000 you can have an editing system. Then the technology kept going and going, going to the point where, now anyone can edit on their iPhone, on a non professional way, or now, or on a laptop, you can do a full movie, all that kind of stuff. And when you open the door, the beautiful thing is now, people who didn't have access to it before have access to it. Now, the problem is people who have didn't have access to it have access to it tonight. So they muddy the waters. People that shouldn't have access to that kind of information, or that kind of power gets it now, and it's, you know, does it for the wrong reasons. So I believe that that's happening in channeling, that's happening, that's happening in the spiritual space now, so many people are channels, so many people are trying to be psychic mediums. And that's awesome. It really is. But there's you guys. They gotta come from the right place. You guys take the good with the bad, when you open up the things, like when you were coming like when you were coming out, you know, early 40 years ago, there was a you could count, probably in one or two hands, how many people were doing it, yeah, on a public standpoint, at least.

James Van Praagh 44:09
Oh, yeah, yeah. It was George Anderson, myself. And then after me was John Edward and Sylvia Brown. And that was really it

Alex Ferrari 44:16
For a while, for a while, yeah, for a long while. That was, that was it.

James Van Praagh 44:20
I mean, God bless John. Everybody's still out there doing it with his demonstrations, and he doesn't slow down. I said, John, really? He said, No, I love it, and good for him. And, yeah, so it's really interesting. But that's changed over the years. The mediumship has changed because, as we see now, Tyler Henry, and, you know, that's fine, and Theresa, but more shows him with mediums that I don't know I'm such a I'm just really critical in that I hold mediumship to a high standard, because we are the ambassadors of the higher form of you know, to me, it's all about love, and you have to be show that demonstrate that love. And it's not a side show, not a circus act. And it should be true. Treated with respect and integrity and responsibility. And when I see that it isn't, it's just like this is that

Alex Ferrari 45:07
You're a mediums statesman, if you will. Yeah, you are a statesman.

James Van Praagh 45:13
Well, otherwise, don't do the work. If you're not willing to be responsible for you, put out of the and build people up and do the work the right way to just throw it out there, like you're in a circus. And I go, I can do this. Be many of my students when I when I do it, I talk to my students. First say, What is the reason behind your mediumship? What is the reason why you want to get involved in well, I want to help people. I want to serve people. And I say, there are many ways to help people. You could go into medical work, you go into baking, you go into accounting. There are many different services. What is the real reason behind it? So they really got to know themselves. And you know, mediumship takes on many different ways of mediumship. But you know, it's all just an energy that we all channel, right? That that creative force, if you will. But there are many ways you can do it, even therapists can be. You know, our media, whoever's a medium in their own, you know, in their own way, in their own for their own work, or your medium, or all mediums in our own way, but we do the work, the spirit communication. To me, it's, it's, and it's a whole different, you know, game, because you're, you're dealing with a higher vibration in that the highest vibration is love, and you have to bring that element of love if you're going to work as a medium, especially before people and in the public eye on television, there's got to be that sense of at least for me, again, I can't say for everybody, but I'm a teacher in that I have to demonstrate and teach love. And perhaps it might be had the father never was able to say I love you to his daughter, and that's why you can say I love you. But there's got to be, you know, I'm going to say it this way. There are a lot of great technicians out there, you know, as far as many mediums, not just because someone's a medium, doesn't mean they're spiritual. They be great technicians, but doesn't mean that they're good people. They're good people.

Alex Ferrari 47:02
There's a lot of people who have the gift who are not like, evolved and ascended. I mean, that's the thing, and that's another thing I love to talk about on the show, because people automatically think like, Well, God gave you this gift, so you must be doing everything for the right reasons. You're not doing it out of ego. You know, no, it happens even with spiritual masters. Yes. Who are they might have mastered a certain level of awakening, yeah, but they didn't master the three dimensional world, and they they sleep with their students, or they are caught up in the fame of it and all that stuff, even though they've reached a certain level, not the highest, but a certain level,

James Van Praagh 47:38
You'd be very shocked, and I'm not going to tell you, but

Alex Ferrari 47:39
Who it is off air,

James Van Praagh 47:42
A lot of them off air, yeah, you'll be shocked. I mean, people be just shocked at what I had, what some and I was, this is one of the things in my career that shocked me. It's like, huh, that person likes that when they're what? And it was really shocking. That was one of the things that in my career really set me back, because I was like, wow, how can this person be this way in front of people and then behave a whole different way? And it makes me just lose so much respect. Because for me, life is a medium you have to live that that's it's a life of service, and it's almost like you can't just put the, you know, put it on when in front of people, then close off. I mean it's me. You have for me. I got to live my life as a medium. I had to live my life as a spiritual ambassador in that and all the way I live my principles. I got to live my principles out. I've got to bring love to everywhere I can, any way I can do it, and I got to be non judgmental, not easy. I better learn that one. But I had to, who am I to teach something if I don't do it myself, right, right? So it's interesting. But there are people carpent the phenomena of that of psychic or channeling or medium phenomena. Yeah, they get caught up with the side show of it. Yeah, they want to be well known. When I said, Oh, I want to be well known. I want a TV show. No, that's not the right reason behind it. There are hundreds of 1000s of mediums out there who no one knows about, but the most, the most talented ones around that you don't hear about.

Alex Ferrari 49:05
It's kind of like filmmakers and actors and those kind of, like, I need to be famous about. That's not the way. That's no, you can't make a room for that. That's right. If you walk into the movie going, this is Oscar bound. You're done. You're done. That's right. That's very done. There's no question with all that said, I see a woman behind you Victorian. She's staring at me and she wants to say she has a message.

James Van Praagh 49:31
I don't want to hear from her. I've had, it's funny. I've had people come up to me and say things like that, like I said to you, oh

Alex Ferrari 49:38
To you, oh sure. Oh yeah, oh yeah. I have a message for you.

James Van Praagh 49:41
Oh, gosh, yeah, you must listen to this message. It's very important that you hear this like, Huh, oh, yo. You got to hear it. I said, I don't want to. You have to say, no, no, that or I get, you know, books sent to me every week. Say, Oh yeah, it's your karma to get this book published. Oh, wow. I've had a lot of those.

Alex Ferrari 50:00
I get oh yeah. I get those sort of Oh god, yeah. Spirit, my spirit guides told me to reach out to you, to be on your show. I have to be on your show. That's right, my favorites, My favorites are always the I have a message only for you. I need five minutes, guys. I appreciate it. I really do. But if I, if I took five minutes for every five minute email, it would just, we wouldn't be able to do a show.

James Van Praagh 50:25
So I'd say, write it down and mail it to me. Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 50:29
But you want me to what mail?

James Van Praagh 50:30
Man, I don't know. I put the stamp on the envelope. Oh, there's an envelope you need. What's the stamp? Yeah, what's an envelope?

Alex Ferrari 50:38
Now, a friend of ours. His name is Bruce Joel Rubin.

James Van Praagh 50:43
Oh. He wrote, I love Bruce. Okay, so Bruce Joel Rubin wrote ghost.

Alex Ferrari 50:48
He wrote ghosts. He wrote Jacob ladder. He directed, this is life last Mimsy the ghost. Well, ghosts. He won the Oscar for Ghost, right? So what I did with ghost? So just because I was gonna, there's a scene in there. I wanted to talk to you, yes, yes,

James Van Praagh 51:01
But I my, I've never met the man. I've tried meeting him after ghosts, but I couldn't get to him. I was working on Paramount Studios at the time, and they showed ghosts, and they had it in this on the studio. We had a screening and everyone's and I was just starting my mediumship or studying it, and I knew the techniques, I knew the ways of doing things, and I that when the movie ended, I was the only one in the room that stood up, standing ovation, really, yeah, yeah, because you got it all right. And to get this out there and to demonstrate, it was fantastic.

Alex Ferrari 51:34
Yeah, it was. It was one of the first real, real kind of expressions of what mediumship is, yes, and obviously a Hollywood rapper, but he snuck in a holly. But for he snuck in a lot that they let in.

James Van Praagh 51:50
And he studied the he studied mediumship before for this movie. He really prepared and learned and read books. And

Alex Ferrari 51:57
You know his story, right? You know how he became like, kind of, you know, he's like, a Tibetan, I know, I do know. So right now he teaches meditation. He's more in the Tibetan side of didn't know that. Oh yeah, he's, he's gone full like that in his in his years and in his retirement years. And he's a wonderful, wonderful soul. Had him on the show years ago, and we had this conversation. And I'll tell this story because it's just brilliant. He's in Berkeley in the 1960s and his friend goes, Hey, Tim. Tim has a big file of LSD that just came in from Sweden or Switzerland, and he wants to, can we keep it? He's not he can't receive it. Can we keep, we'll keep it in the Can we keep in the refrigerator overnight? In the morning, Tim was Timothy Leary so and he had never tried any drugs before. Bruce so his friends like, Hey. I mean, if we're gonna try some LSD, wow. I mean, having Tim Larry's uncut LSD from Switzer, from Switzerland, is the way to go, wow. And he's like, You know what? Let's do it. It's the 60s. We're in Berkeley. What the hell. So they take a dropper. There's, like, you know, a gallon of it. Like, they could drop liquid. It's, yes, all liquid. For me, it's just not anything else. It hasn't gotten to the tabs yet. Okay. So he takes it, wow, a dropper. So it's raw, wow. And he takes one drop, and he sits there for like, an hour, man, I don't feel anything. He goes, we should probably take a couple more. Oh, geez, his friend takes the three. Takes a dropper. Oh, no, you won't hear. Whoopsie, the whole dropper.

James Van Praagh 53:30
No,

Alex Ferrari 53:31
80 doses. Oh, at once, which you cannot undo. You cannot pump a stomach. You're done. It's you're going on a ride. Both to it. He, well, he got the 80. The other one I got, like, one or two. So, oh, wow. Go sit down and get ready for a ride. And when he it finally hit and it hit hard, his entire body was deconstructed, ripped apart, like he was in space ripped apart. His essence was left. He flew to the center of the universe, spoke to God, wow. And then I you have to watch the episode. There's a lot more details I'm letting out. And then he came back, flew back in. His body reassembled, and he came out of it, wow. And that, of course, changed his life. Of course, I would think. And now, when you watch Jacob's Ladder, you understand? He goes, that's the closest we ever got to my psychedelic experience. Well, I got to watch it over again. Now, because Jacobs Ladder, you when I watched, I was like, Gee, man, what the hell is this guy on? Like, it was the weirdest movies at the time. Adrian Lynn, great director of directed it, yeah, and, and Bruce was telling me he's like, you know, we, we fought to get that in. And that was the script that got his career started. It was one of those, like, top 10 best scripts in Hollywood that was before ghost, or, oh, yeah, that was before. It was before ghost. Then after, he won the Oscar for Ghost. Then he did, this is my life with Michael Keaton, and last Wednesday. And he did, he did a ton of, Oh, he did a ton, a ton of different projects over the years. But. Yeah, but that was just so funny. Now, there is a scene, though, in ghosts that you said, Bruce, listen, and it's okay. Bruce says, Bruce will be the first to say, it's cool. Okay, that he got a lot right, and I used a lot right. They the 96% 96% was right. And, like, I use Whoopi as an example all the time with like, people coming into her and the ghost in the room.

James Van Praagh 55:25
And the funny thing aside, is that she's really into this, oh yeah, of course, yeah. She's Scorpio. She loves it.

Alex Ferrari 55:30
And, and, you know, Sam kicking the can and all that, like, the moving of things that happens, right? Exactly, yeah, we all see that happens. And, but now, like putting like, you have to think everything is that whole thing, the shadow monsters, that that that was interesting. So the shadow, so the shadow, think about that. Personally, I think it was, well, it's a concept of going to hell, to a hellish experience, right? I can trip the night Fandango and kind of explain it away, if you like. But I think it was part of what we needed in that movie, because people needed something aggressive. You needed a you needed a Darth Vader. You needed a Hannibal Lecter. You needed a a consequence. It can't be all love in a movie, because in a movie you need all of those contrasts to make it work, if not, if you don't have a bad guy, you have no conflict, you don't have a movie,

James Van Praagh 56:20
I thought he did really an exceptional job with that, because, well, how can you have those? This so beautiful. That's Dark Souls.

Alex Ferrari 56:27
It was dark souls kind of pulling him down. And you could explain it, that that's him, and that he's gonna have to deal with that, and it's his point of view, because of what he's done, the bad guy he's done. And

James Van Praagh 56:35
Right, oh, I thought it was great, actually, how he handled that. The other thing was really great was earth bound spirit, the guy's stuck on the subway. I love that!

Alex Ferrari 56:44
Right! He was stuck in the subway. He just, all he would do is ride around and he got angry

James Van Praagh 56:48
Get off my train!

Alex Ferrari 56:50
And he kicked off. Patrick Swayze, yeah, out of the other tree and all that stuff. But there's this scene, a very famous scene, where Whoopie allows Demi Moore, yes, to come in. Yes. Connect with Demi. Look, it allows Sam to come in, or Patrick Swayze will come in through her so he could touch Yes, Demi and they had this beautiful scene together. Yes, that was the one part you're like. Well, tell me, how would that? Tell me, tell me how that scene does that even exist, or if it did, how could

James Van Praagh 57:26
I might be wrong. Yeah, and, but I'm a purist. We've no we've noticed that about peers, and that's physical mediumship. So in physical mediumship, and I've been with many physical mediums, it's a rarity physical mediumship. I have been with Leslie Finn, most famous of the 20th century, where the voice box appear in the air, and spirit come through, and it sound just like the spirit. My mother came through. My guides came through that way. And I know in physical mediumship, even in trance mediumship, that the you go down to such a level of consciousness that you're slipping down, you're always aware of what's going on. But as you're slipping down and going down to a lower, lower, lower, lower consciousness, conscious state, and that you're allowing that soul to come in to you through you, which is fine, happens you're aware of it, and they can speak through you. And there are many times your spiritual can walk, and they can stand up and walk around the room. Now I have been taught I might be wrong, but I don't think it is that when you're someone is entranced, which, in this case would be, was supposedly entranced, that they wouldn't be able to hold the physical person who doesn't know what, it would hurt, the vibration of the soul, the company would cause internal bleeding. They I've heard, and yeah, I can imagine physical it's a hard one. So that, to me was

Alex Ferrari 58:43
It works for the movie, and, of course, you have works for the mood. But

James Van Praagh 58:45
I was like, Oh yeah, well, yeah, over but over again. That's teaching the public not the right way. James, James, but I'm in it, so I can't help it.

Alex Ferrari 58:57
I get it. But overall, the the, I think the positive aspect of this, of the film, and the story was over, over ways, the one scene, in my opinion, but you're right, but also you have to have some creative license. You have to have like that and that move, that scene was so beautiful, you know, on a creative standpoint, or the story standpoint, it worked beautiful.

James Van Praagh 59:14
I thought it was kind of creepy.

Alex Ferrari 59:17
It was beautiful until you realize, until you realize that it's

James Van Praagh 59:22
will be more. And I'm like,

Alex Ferrari 59:25
Well, it's kind of like when you watch Back to the Future and you're like, which? I've never seen which? James, sorry, James, when you get home this week, I've never seen it, James, you have to watch back to the future. Well, in that movie, his mother falls in love with him. I've heard that. Yeah. So there's like, that whole creepy I'm like, right? Incest, like, what is happening on here, you know? So when you real, but, but in the story, it makes perfect sense. So now you were mentioning to me yesterday, actually, at the conference, you mentioned this that April. This year. Oh, something, a little coffee. Yeah, drink a little coffee, like, a little Baileys with you

James Van Praagh 1:00:07
April of this year. It's a rough time. It's a rough time. Like, apparently, I don't know when this is going to be.

Alex Ferrari 1:00:13
This will probably be aired, probably within the month of April. Okay, okay, so I'm going to try so it hasn't happened yet. It hasn't happened yet, but I'm going to try to get it out before the month is over. So the the march to my understanding, was the end of an era of some sort, like in the cycle, there was a cycle that ended astrologically, the yugas, a lot of things, all things like, kind of combined. I've had seven planets in Pisces, yeah. Like I had Chinese astrologers, I had Vedic astrologers, I had Western they all said the same thing about the yugas and about the cycle. So March ended that. So April is kind of the first month of the new that's right cycle. So can you explain what is happening now?

James Van Praagh 1:00:52
And I'm limited with my astrology, so forgive me for that, but what I've heard, and what it feels like to me is there definitely is an end of a cycle and beginning of a new one, and it's going to be a cycle that people have to go within themselves. And so there might be a lot of chaos going on around us, in the outside world, which political is already happening. Oh God, United States. So it's like, wow, around the world, around the world, yeah, I just came from Europe, and yes, people looking like, you crazy Americans. You know, it's just, it's going to be some conflicts going on, and there's going to be some severe stuff happening, not only weather wise, which actually I predicted these weather changes about a year ago. And my podcast, and there's April, is a month of assassinations. You know when I say that, what I mean by that is, and my good friend Kelly White, who I work with, really, was one mentions astrologically, because you have these seven plants of Pisces, you have the moon eclipses. It's really Danta too, from going from water into fire time. There's a lot of stuff going on there. So the exact astrological aspects that happened in June of 1968 which I remember very well when RFK was assassinated, and then Martin MLK, Martin Luther King, we had the exact same down to the zero degree, exact degree of that assassination time. We have those planets exactly in April, so for two to three weeks in April. So it should be a rough time. There could be assassinations, really, I don't know whom, but I'm not saying,

Alex Ferrari 1:02:23
I'm not saying we'll talk off air.

James Van Praagh 1:02:26
No, but it could happen. It's will happen, don't know, but it is. It's there. It's a possibility.

Alex Ferrari 1:02:32
The key thing that you said, though, is that it's going to this, this times that are coming are going to force us to go in 100% and I did a talk at the conference yesterday where I was talking like, when you start to look inward, it's either happening in a moment of chaos, a moment of great pain or loss of love or life, or something like some close to you, or in great beauty. Those are the three things that focus, that force you to go inward. It's a trigger. It's interesting because, like, I always like, you know, when you're in the Amalfi Coast, on a on a yacht, drinking champagne, eating lobster, you're not looking for Jesus. You're not looking

James Van Praagh 1:03:17
I can find Jesus, yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:03:19
You're not really look. He's not lost. But you're not really looking for salvation. You're not looking for Buddha. You're not looking for in you're not looking inward, because you're enjoying the outward so much. Only when you lose everything, or you take a punch or you do, that's when you go, Oh, I gotta look in. The pandemic was that, yes, pandemic shocked the world to, like, start to look and that started this awakening. Really, like, hard. It really, like, jump started. It's not over. Oh, I know we were far from and

James Van Praagh 1:03:48
Now we're gonna have another one as well. And I was like, we're gonna have another pandemic. And sure enough, I read the other day, but this fungus that they cannot control, and it's all over the world, and it's kind of a fungus that's growing, and I think, when, Yeah, lovely. I think what another one of these pandemics. And I think that the world is going to go through some wars. I think it's a rough, rough time. And I think the world that we knew is Bye, bye. I think it's a new world coming, and I think it's going to take a lot of changes and people's belief systems. And, you know, it's already happening. I mean, systems are falling well, I predict that two years ago, that the institutions it's on, my prediction show the institution is gonna be falling apart, and they already started. You know, you know, Musk has changed things around and move things around.

Alex Ferrari 1:04:35
So, politics, religion, so all of the

James Van Praagh 1:04:39
Religions won't well, Hollywood, Hollywood. Hollywood is, I mean, I also think, though that Alex, that I really believe that there's gonna be so much negativity that people don't wanna watch television, they don't wanna watch people don't watch news. I don't watch news. It's happening, and they're gonna turn televisions off and go back the internet. And so I think studios, it's gonna be a hard time for people in the industry, because. Is people are going to want to watch that. They're going to want to

Alex Ferrari 1:05:02
I mean, our show gets more ratings than a lot of new shows. Yeah, yeah. It's insane. It's insane.

James Van Praagh 1:05:07
But this is real. People want positivity and something that speaks to their soul, not negative, negative. They don't want negativity anymore. They won't be able to take it anymore, especially when they're living it. They can't have watch.

Alex Ferrari 1:05:20
Yeah, exactly. And that's why Hollywood having such a tough time as well.

James Van Praagh 1:05:23
It's gonna be tough. It's gonna be changing. The industries. It's gonna change,

Alex Ferrari 1:05:28
Yeah, medical industry, healthcare,

James Van Praagh 1:05:31
bank, food, financial,

Alex Ferrari 1:05:33
All of them. You see the cracks happening around us, everywhere. And it's, it's,

James Van Praagh 1:05:38
And then land changes too. So the land changes, meaning, oh, just land changes. A lot of water. Hurricanes, a lot of water. You know, flooding, a lot. It's a flooding happening, especially the Pisces. And plans of Pisces, which is water and, yeah, you can have a lot of volcanic you can have a lot of changes coming up next year. Yeah, very true.

Alex Ferrari 1:05:57
This is April. What's, what do you foresee happening as far as a timeline comes? Because it's, God, it's moving so fast. James, it's so fast. I mean, from 2020 Yeah, every year seems like a decade. Yeah, in the amount of stuff. I mean, you've been on the on the earth for quite some time. Yeah. You know, I was born in the 70s, from what I've seen, and

James Van Praagh 1:06:18
I was going to discos in the 70s, exactly. Thank you. I appreciate that. I was Saturday Night Live. I live that

Alex Ferrari 1:06:28
Exactly, exactly. But even from the moment when I was born, yeah, the 70s, the 80s, the 90s, I saw things speeding up like and I always use this example, like, VHS shows up, and it takes a decade or so before it really starts to hit it's like, you know, it peaks, you know, probably midway through. But it was about a decade, 15 years. And then DVD shows up. And that DVD, it picks up much quicker, that's right. And then what cable was in there somewhere as well. And then streaming kicks in, and

James Van Praagh 1:06:58
Then just on my DVDs, remember,

Alex Ferrari 1:07:00
Yes, exactly. And all of a sudden, everything just started changing. Streaming showed up. Then music changed, yep, and publishing changed, yep. And it's just like everything now is so fat. AI is speeding things up like crazy. So I can I just in these last five years 2020 has been this decade has been started off literally with a bang. Yeah, this year has been no different. I mean, we started off, my god, yeah, crazy, crazy around the world, and things are happening. So what do you foresee like for the rest of this year and just the next five years? Where do you see us in 2030 you know, as like, with all the stuff we're talking about, right how much of this the system is going to be really brought down and a new one come up in its space?

James Van Praagh 1:07:48
Well, that's what's going to happen right now. As he just commenting on what you said, I feel like when a centrifuge let me it's thrown around, thrown around. And there are times I call some friends of mine to say, Do you feel this energy happening? Yes, it's so fast, so quick, and it feels as if it's, you know, a tidal wave, you know, waiting to happen, or when it's a whirlpool, and it goes faster and faster, and it's that's gotten to a point now. And I know them older, but I gave up more day. It is what the time is. And when I look at my phone to know, you know, I was a, really a Monday. I was because I just can't hold on to it anymore. Just like I can't retain and people that are young when I say, but yeah, I can't 30 year olds. Like, I don't know what day it is. It just so quick and so fast. So all you gotta do is back, keep on grounding yourself, get back to your own heart. You know, don't get caught up in the speed of it. I think it's going to be breakdowns. I think, no doubt about it, I think there's going to be a breakdown. I think our government is going to change in a way which is already starting to, but it's going to be a very made. It's going to be brought down, and there's going to, I think what's going to happen little, maybe more like little communities will start up, because things can be broken, and and people aren't going to be heard, but they will come back to kind of like attracts like, you know, their own little communities of what they're into, what their interests are, and that's how it's going to go back up. I just think everything's going to be questioned. I think there's going to be upheaval. I think there's going to be, I'm sorry to paint the negative picture, but I do believe it's a time for us to break down and start up for again. So it's gonna be rough. I think it's gonna be depression.

Alex Ferrari 1:09:27
I think it's made depression economically and economically, everything

James Van Praagh 1:09:32
Economically, yeah, I'm already loading up my garage with extra things. I had a vision two years ago, like a CVS or Walgreens, and the shelves were empty. And then I went, like, two months ago, and some shelves were all started to be empty. Like, oh, so it's gonna be, you know, I feel like medical supplies will be limited. We went through this with a pandemic. Yeah, it's gonna even worse. So it's gonna be yours, and it's just starting, sorry to be the bearer of but everybody knows it.

Alex Ferrari 1:09:59
But the thing. And the reason I talk about this as much as I do on the show is because I want people to be aware of it, and because, as it happens around them, they're going to be confused. What do they do? They're going to think about the world's coming to an like, no, no, no.

James Van Praagh 1:10:12
But then what do they do? They go in. They go within. They have to go they have to,

Alex Ferrari 1:10:16
They have to go within. And it's like when in life. And I think you would agree with me, the universe spirit guides, whoever you want to call are guiding you throughout your life. And if you walk off the path a bit, they whisper in your ear, tap you on the shoulder, give you a little nudge, and you're like, No, no, I can't. No, no, I can't. Then the sledge hammer comes out and knocks you across the face. That's right. I think that's what we're going and it's going and it's going through humanity is going through. I agree. And the only way and what happens the values are shift, going to shift Exactly. And what happens when you have those dark nights of the soul, when you've lost someone, you've lost your job, you've you've lost everything, when you have that kind of outside pressure, that's when you are forced to go in exactly. So that is what unfortunately has to happen, because we have not listened to the whispers, we have not listened to the taps, we have not listened to the nudges. And now the sledge hammers are coming out.

James Van Praagh 1:11:11
Sledge hammers are coming out. And then we got to, gotta go to our next level soul.

Alex Ferrari 1:11:16
Just saying, had no idea that that name, just saying, we do what it does because it's really

James Van Praagh 1:11:22
Because I was your higher self giving you that information.

Alex Ferrari 1:11:24
Well, literally, meditation. Do you know that? No, I don't know that I missed out. So when I was, when I was doing the show, when I was creating the show, in three weeks, because my spirit guy told me my living

James Van Praagh 1:11:35
He built the studio in like, three days. Studio was, like, a little bit. How many hours was it? And it's quality,

Alex Ferrari 1:11:44
So my, I appreciate you, yeah, but my spirit guide, Connie, she told me to do

James Van Praagh 1:11:49
Wait a minute, way to slow down your spirit. Guy's name was Connie.

Alex Ferrari 1:11:52
Her name is Connie. She's alive. She's been with me since I was 23

James Van Praagh 1:11:56
My adopted mother's name was Connie, and she was one who helped me believe in myself, and I wouldn't be here without her, and my first book is dedicated to her.

Alex Ferrari 1:12:06
Now we have another thing I gotta go So Connie, Connie, who's been on the show, she was actually released last week as of this recording, her sixth interview on the show. Wow, she's a star now she is impossible to deal with. She is 89 oh, god bless her. And, and she's still cooking deals, still doing one on ones, all that kind of wow. And she told me, Hey, you have to do a show, a spiritual show. And says, You're insane. What's wrong with you? She's like, Yeah, doing you gotta do in three weeks, because three weeks is Easter, and that's a good time to launch the show. So I was so dismissive of this whole story. I'm like, spiritual podcast like it made no sense, right? So I kind of challenged the universe before I went into a meditation. I go, okay, universe, Okay, God, you want me to do a show about spirituality? I need a name. I need a name that's trademarkable. I need a name that I have I could get all the URLs and the social I need that. I need a name that no one's used in the spiritual world or the New Age Movement. Good luck, because everything's been abused 1000 times. I went into my meditation and three words popped into my head, wow, Next Level soul. I was like, that's a pretty cool man. That's pretty great. And I was like, Holy crap. And now it's like, you can start seeing people using like a next level soul. You have to go to go to become a next level soul. And I was like, holy, you started the movement. I'm like, holy, yeah, that's pretty amazing. It's, I understand that I have no I'm nothing, nothing about you. It's, I'm just, I'm a vessel, yeah, the instrument. I'm the instrument of it all. You know, I do the heavy lifting, but they push, yeah.

James Van Praagh 1:13:40
And now you're all over the world. Hello!

Alex Ferrari 1:13:43
International. Your Spanish episodes. Your Spanish episodes are fantastic. Oh, they do great. Yeah, we translated you, and you've been translated into six languages. Wow. And it's with it with AI, and it's people just love it. So yeah, and we're gonna continue to go into Spanish markets and German markets are very big. Yeah, those are the two markets that we're really going to start focusing on more and more. Probably late this year, we have a bunch of it, but we're going to go back.

James Van Praagh 1:14:07
I'm going to go there. I'll go there with you.

Alex Ferrari 1:14:08
I appreciate it

James Van Praagh 1:14:12
Well, I really believe that your mission is to help evolve souls and go to that next level. And it's going to happen

Alex Ferrari 1:14:18
When people are when the other side is trying to talk to us, what are some of the things that we should look out for? Because there's so many people listening right now, James, who want to connect with their mom, their dad, their friend, their dog, whatever it is, what are the kind of things that we should keep an eye out for? Synchronicities, if you will, right to do it, I told you a story yesterday on stage. You remember my aunt. What's your name? Take another shot. Yeah, no, we were talking on the stage before you went when you did your talk, I walked you up and I call. I gotta tell you story about my aunt who died. Yes, keep it going. So my aunt died. My favorite aunt died, and then you said, she's very proud of you. She's here, that's right. And realize I'm like, Okay. And then, and then I said, two days after she died, I was doing a project where I was looking at old VHSs and, like, recording them for something else running, that's right. And all of a sudden, a video of two minute test video I did because I had, I was like in college, and I had a new Steadicam Junior that we had, and I was testing it out with a high camera, and I recorded Thanksgiving dinner, and she was there with my grandma, other aunt and my father. My father still alive, but my father was there. He was a little bit young, a little bit older than I am right now, and all that was happening, and I was like, two days after she died, and I asked you, I asked you, I mean, the coincidence is so remarkable, there's no reason I would have I didn't remember shooting it right only afterwards, like, Oh, God, yeah, oh, wow, I remember that now, but I didn't, didn't recollect it, that it was so specific. And you said on stage yesterday, you said, that's what they do. They can influence things. So can you explain that?

James Van Praagh 1:16:10
Sure. I mean, it's hard for a lot of us to understand. It's three dimensional world, but I will say that coincidence is God's way of remaining anonymous, and the spirit world can pull strings if you want, and they can make things happen, and they can influence the animal kingdom, birds and insects. And my brother just recently passed over, has he said the other day, he said, Listen, come he came to me, and he came to me when I was taking a shower. So they'll tend to come to you when you open up your mind. So when people want to talk to loved ones, you got to surrender. You got to soften the mind so they come to you. So like when you're reading a book, all sudden you'll get some information, or you're driving the car because you're not thinking, so you're not in the head space. So as I said yesterday, and I always say Head to Heart, you got to go from your heart. So when you surrender in that space, I'm just opening up and just letting it be, don't force it. It's easier for them to come through. So my brother came through with them the other day, and he said to me, the flag, the flag, the flag. Now, sorry, I was shaving, I think it was after. And he said, like, don't forget the flag. Like, okay, don't forget the flag. And so throughout the day, I'm like, don't know about the flag. Three days before, I was in my backyard and noticed, oh, there's a little part of the building here that is termite damage. I'm kind of finance, some insect person specialist, so I was like, Okay, that was on my mind. And then I'm looking that day for the flag. I pull into a parking lot, and right next to me is a van which has a big red, white, blue flag all around it, and it's the insect finder. Now, what are the odds of that happening? I'm sure that was the flag. So because they're outside of time, they can do things with time. Because you remember, things happen over there first than they do here. Here's the last place that things materialize. So they can create things over there in a way, and they will materialize here. And the number one way they come through to us is a dream state. That's because we're not thinking so the dream state. But there are other ways they can influence, like I said, birds and insects and so forth. Them drive my car, and all sudden is stopping in a red light and a B just went as like cleaning itself, and I'm saying, Oh, hi, hi my brother, hi Mike, and I was then off. Now, could that have just happened? Yes, but of all places to get my attention, they try to get our attention, and they will influence our mind to a point where we look at something, oh, when there's a sign with their name on it, or something else. So they can influence our mind in that respect, if we're open minded. You see,

Alex Ferrari 1:18:41
Have you ever had things manifest in front of you? Yes, like bugs or something? Yes, that manifests, and there's no natural reason for it to be there.

James Van Praagh 1:18:53
Yes, but yes, I was talking to a good friend of mine on the phone, and we're talking about a friend of hers who lost a partner and that I think he found a ring on table or something. And as I'm speaking with her, her partner had passed over, and as she's telling me this story, I hear ding, huh? And I said, Hold on. And I walked to my washer and dryer in the other room, and there was a little ring that was a female's ring. Didn't belong to me, didn't belong to my roommate, and I told her about it. I said, this is a ring. I said, this looks like kind of you're kind of a ring, sure if I sent it to her and it fit her perfectly, and I knew it was from her husband. So that happened, a couple of those types of things happen. Yeah, weird thing. A lot of coins. My sister passed over. She loved dimes, and she used to work with the dimes coming through shorter book about dimes. Well, after she passed, I'm making my bed in the middle of bed, there's a dime. I go to my truck in the middle seat, there's a dime. My sister's going putting her boots on, there's a dime in the boot. So they can manifest these things. Happens like that. Another experience I had, which is really pretty amazing, and it's rare. I've had a lot. Have incredible mediumistic experiences. When I was in Brazil, I used to go to Brazil quite a bit. I used to bring spiritual well groups down to go to spiritual centers throughout Brazil. And one of the times I was there, there's a place called the fray Louise center. It's outside of Rio, and it's a there's, I guess, I guess was an age of adoption for kids, but it's run by 200 mediums, and once a month, this is years ago. No, they still do this, but 15 years ago, 20 years ago, when I was there, they called me, said, We would like you to attend a seance, a healing with everybody here, there's gonna be what's called the materialization. I said, Okay, so I didn't really know, but there's a substance called ectoplasm that everybody has this substance, ectoplasm, cellular, I guess you could say the easiest way to look at it. But mediums have more of it than most people. And physical mediums have most a lot, a lot of it. So I was invited to go to this very special once in a month, house in the hill in the space called Louis center. And my group was in another part of Brazil, and I had to fly to Rio, and I'd be there 5:30 in the morning and wear just white cotton garments, no drinking, sex or red meat in 48 hours. So I was good. So 48 hours and you go there to 5:30 morning, you just sit and meditate. It's a darkened space, and there's chairs, and then there's like a little bit of a stage. And what happens is, they bring the sickest children every month, like the cots five, five at a time, and they bring them in, they put in the cots. And then what happens is, I'm sitting there, and I'm watching the vapor. This is vapor. Starts up from all everyone, I had to wear vapor in your man, I didn't feel anything with this vapor. And it forms into these feet and this legs, and it's building up like, Huh? And literally forms a materialization of a doctor, a doctor, yeah, yeah, with a white coat and holding some kind of a crystal that is rainbow color, and you can see it's moving. This light is moving on the rainbow, and his doctor appears wearing a mask, and it wasn't someone who dressed up because we were watching it. I'm very cynical, not to know, very skeptical. And I'm like, looking, oh my gosh. And they bring up the kids, and this being goes to, you know, each kid holds this crystal rod and goes to different areas of the body, and then the other kids come on. And the second time I'm thinking, Oh, I'd love to get this done. Oh, I'd love to go up there. I swear to you, within seconds, one of the mediums that were helping out this personal stage had a red, red flash. And they go, come. You come. So who knows, they must have heard me. I went up to the stage, laid down in the cot, and I'm waiting. And most people probably go up there. They're like, closing their eyes to receive it. Not me. No, I had to feel up the yes period. So because for me, I had to know this is real. Sure it was solid. I felt it's like, and it took this crystal, Oh, yeah. And I took this crystal rod and went right to my solar plexus, and then it just happened, but four seconds, maybe four to five seconds, and it moved on. And then after that, they take you down. And afterwards, we all went and had some cake, some tea and some cakes, and you felt like you had surgery. And that's exactly what it felt like, and they're just bringing it back. Well, two weeks later, I went back to Los Angeles, where I lived, and he went to my doctor, and she looked at me and she said, What happened to your ulcer? You had an ulcer before you left Brazil. You don't have an ulcer anymore. What happened? As you know,

Alex Ferrari 1:23:36
Brazilian nuts, Brazilian nuts, lots of Brazilian nuts.

James Van Praagh 1:23:40
And that was my experience with the materialization of His Spirit. And I felt had materialization with the physical spirit, with Leslie Flint, who was a very people go online, and he was the greatest medium, physical medium in the 20th century, where, you know, their artificial voice box would appear based upon the ectoplasm, and people would speak through the voice box, and wrote a Valentino queen, Victoria, all these very famous people. And my mother came through and had the San cassette tape, and she said, I want to speak to James. They made James my nickname. Then a Frenchman came through, and he was, I need to talk to a jabs. Jabs. Can you hear me? And I'm like, freaking out. This is before I got into My Media. I was just in a development circle. And he said, We are Mr. James, James. There are many here. It's back in 1990 maybe there are many here who will believe in you. We love your psyche, gay, sensitive, and I have this on its head. He says, You are going to do many works, my friend. We are here to help you. You will write a book. One day, you will travel over water. What we say now you will not know, but years from now, you'll understand this. And I have this on tape, and should have happened exactly as that spirit said. So I mean it really, yeah. So when you have those experiences, and all the readings I've done, and how far along on your on your development, I was just starting to begin my development. I wasn't even doing readings yet. I was still seeing the developments. I've never heard of this voice box. Oh, Leslie Flint, you should look him up.

Alex Ferrari 1:25:05
I've never heard of that artificial voice. Has that ever been filmed?

James Van Praagh 1:25:09
Yes, you should look him up. He's online. Leslie Flint Foundation, okay? And you can hear all the voices. There was a scientist times a couple Betty woods and something green. Mr. Green. And they taped from 1940 probably 1965 a lot of the sessions. So it's all on cassette tape. You can hear them. And then there was some he was a guy's most tested medium in the world. They would tape his mouth up like seven times. And yeah, yeah, try to prove him wrong, but it was wrong, but he wasn't. And it was just he used to go as a 11 year old boy into the movie theaters, into the cinema in London. And people say because the voices appeared in the dark all around him, yes, yeah, yeah. That's interesting. So has anyone else? Have you heard of anyone else? No, I have not heard of anybody else doing it. So that was something very so unique. That was something so unique, and it was very interesting. I was sitting with Leslie before the seance started, and was sitting there, and I was just, I was working, you know, doing paralegal work, and started seeing the development circle. And he there was a television over in the corner of the room. He goes, James, very deep. Was James Yes, because you see that box over there. I said, Yes. He goes, one day you're going to be on that he goes, you need to use it responsibly. Yeah, that wild. So that's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy.

Alex Ferrari 1:26:29
Yesterday, you spoke about the life review, yes, and anyone who's ever seen a near death experience on the show knows that life reviews are not always part of a near death experience. There are part of ways going over the other side, but Right? But a near death experience, not always, and every life review is different, correct, right? Correct, yeah, like, once you go over it's different than a life review that it's in and out, right? Can you explain to people, from your point of view, what that life review is? Because, yes, it keeps you on the straight and narrow.

James Van Praagh 1:27:00
Well, it's funny, you asked me, because I was going to do a TED talk about this, and I still might, but it's really important that life review, and I think it's just yeah, I said it yesterday to the group. So when we first pass out of this physical vibration in three dimensional world, we go to, first of all, we're free. The sense of weight is gone. You feel your your memory comes back to who you really are. There's a sense of just complete peace and love and harmony and people that will come greet you. Everybody is met by somebody. There's a reception before my brother passed over, they would show me like a village of people coming to meet him this reception hall. And it was pretty incredible. And so from his point of view, too, I could tell you, but when you first pass over, everybody goes to their own memorial service, all right? So usually, usually, and not seeing happens this exact time, because everyone's experience different. They'll go to their funerals, if the memorial service or are wakes. Let's say my sister went to her wake. I'm sitting there, raised Catholic. She wanted to wake. We're sitting there, and I heard her say, what's going on? Said, Well, this is your wake. What do you mean? This is such a waste of people's time? I said, Well, this is what you want. She goes, Oh, I can't believe I wanted this. So it's very interesting. She came right back and said that, but there's a life review we will go to there. So after our funerals, among real stories, we go to the other side. We met our loved ones, and we go through it can happen in different ways. They say they can go to a kind of hall where it's kind of like a hospital, but not kind of like our hospitals. It's a place of relaxation. And within that space, remember, there's no time. So you become aware of every situation you've just lived in, the physical life, and you see it, feel it, and experience it from not only your point of view, but the other person's point of view. So, and you see it, feel it, experience from their point of view. So let's say you went and you robbed. Someone went in and they robbed. And this actually was a true story of what my readings this man, Chris, he went and he robbed a convenience store, or he attempted to, and he said, when he came through to his mother, you know, one of the things that happens, I remember this convenience store, and she gave me the money, and the money fell through the bag, and I left, and he goes. But then over here, I had to relive that I really did so strongly, 10 times 20 times 30 times stronger from when it really happened. And I became the cash register person. I saw money. I felt all of her fear, all of her upset meant and it was so strong. And I was like, and then I felt the coworker, who also helped, felt that feeling of, oh my gosh, this fear and the upset meant that. And then home with the family. When she went home, I had to feel all their feelings of, Oh goodness gracious. Is terrible. And he said it was so strong that it weighed him down. For a long time. It weighed him down, and that was he was he was responsible for all this bad energy, and he'd relive it, and he'd realize he created that. And I said, Wow, and it held him back. I said, I was in living hell that I created, and I couldn't get out of it until I just kind of under. Good things. I just couldn't get out of that. And they said, Well, how did you eventually get out of it? He said, Well, James, I did some good in my life and when I was and it's almost like what you were talking near his experience with someone said, get out of the darkness. I've lived it. Let me guess what else he had an awareness that, or a guide came said, also, look at other parts of your life and the other parts, he did some good things, and this is concentrate on that, and it pulled them out of that mindset, and he was able to forgive himself, right? So one of the hardest things we pass over is hard to forgive ourselves the things we did and things we didn't do. So my sister recently, my father came through and said to me, my sister, I said, Wait, where's my sister? Lynnie. Goes, well, she's kind of having, still having a life review. And just look at all the opportunities that she didn't take for loving herself and for loving others. Beautiful. So if we can have a life review while we still in the physical body, wow, wouldn't we be different?

Alex Ferrari 1:30:55
That's what nders are. When they come back, they change,

James Van Praagh 1:30:59
They change, but they just think if everybody in the public, oh God, could have a life review now, not dying for it. You could while you're instilling the body, and just could reflect on your life and realize the things that you did or didn't do and ways you like to forgive, and maybe just have it now. Boy, you could change things up, and you wouldn't carry that over with you, and you really would start living a different type of life. You'd be living a more responsible life with your thoughts, words and deeds, and like I said yesterday in the conference, if the world leaders could realize that, Oh, my God, would we change? Wouldn't they change? If they could just realize the responsibility, you know, they have to go to certain level to be open to this, obviously, which will happen eventually, not in my lifetime. But I just think that, Boy, wouldn't it be a different world if people were aware of their responsibility with thoughts, words and deeds? Thoughts are powerful. Thoughts. I see thought. I see thought as a color. I see the design, the symbol, the density. I see him. You know, when I walk into a room and I see people I am, you know, you say, Oh, they always around you. I'm closed, but not fully. No one's ever fully closed, but I'm much more aware now, maybe because I'm getting older, or whatever it might be, I live in nature that I see people's thoughts. I see people's energy. To see their auric fields, or the energy fields I see when they shift from word of unconditional love. How it changed the colors around them, the fields around them, right? And it changed their whole dynamic. And that love, again, if we'd send that to someone, Wow, imagine how you can influence someone with that loving energy, and that opens the other person up in that loving energy. So that's pretty amazing.

Alex Ferrari 1:32:37
What let me ask you one last question before we finish up.

James Van Praagh 1:32:40
You finished already?

Alex Ferrari 1:32:41
I know

James Van Praagh 1:32:42
I gotta get it back to San Diego.

Alex Ferrari 1:32:46
Yeah, this whole thing that we're going through, the awakening in this difficult times that we're going to be going through, I call it a rough waters roller coaster. You know, there's going some ups and downs all that stuff. I just like, Hold on kids, it's gonna be a hell of a ride. Um, how long do you see this happening? And when do we start seeing the light on the end of the tunnel?

James Van Praagh 1:33:07
Hard to say, because we're talking about, you know, not a linear thing. I think we start seeing in April, start being, I think we've already started seeing starts

Alex Ferrari 1:33:14
On the on the, we know the negative stuff, but when, when's this a positive? And you think, Is it five years? Is it 10 years? Is it 20 years? Or, I know it's gonna be subtle, so gonna be overnight? Yeah, I think within four within five years, within five years, we're gonna start, we're turn the corner. Yeah, okay, so this again, this decade, this is a pivotal decade,

James Van Praagh 1:33:30
Pivotal decade. It'll be a lot of souls that leave. It'll be an exit point for a lot of souls. Yeah, it's almost like a, you know, reminds me to have a shoe, and somebody's got a lot of mud in the shoe, and you gotta shake it off in order for right, in order to walk clearly easy,

Alex Ferrari 1:33:46
Right! And a lot of the, a lot of the generations that are not as open as you older generations that are stuck in the old ways, they have to essentially tie off. Yeah, so the things change, companies and and governments and all that, but because I have hope, because I have kids, and the younger generation is not like my generation or your generation. They look at things so differently. There's so much more tapped in.

James Van Praagh 1:34:12
But remember, Alex, that those souls chose to come back at this period of time. They chose this time because they're very different than we are. Very different because they're different vibration. They're different different understanding, different soul groups. And then the world will change because and they'll be adaptable to that world change. Me being older, looking down saying, Well, I can't even figure this out. I couldn't build the studio. And you know, it's just, it's amazing to see as you get old, things change. Thinking faster. And there's also a part of, well, maybe it's because of work, it is. It's like, Okay, I'm ready to go when the time is right, because I've done it. I've done it, the world is so different. I mean, not that I want to be here, but I'm like, Yeah, I get it, and I get the changes. And I think you're a part of that change, yeah. And so are you now. Soul, because you're going to do more work. Your work is going to be, you know, much more accessible. I can say it that way. I think there's going to be a whole new, I don't know, whole new way I want to say, Yeah, I said you got a studio. You are bigger movies, more another way of doing things. Maybe it's the internet. I don't know. I think this will be another, some kind of another media thing going on.

Alex Ferrari 1:35:22
We've got a lot of plans. We got a lot of they'll happen. Yeah, and I'm going to ask you a few questions. Ask all my guests, what is your definition of living a fulfilled life?

James Van Praagh 1:35:31
Living with an awareness of doing the right thing all the time, and influencing others with finding the best in everybody, and maybe letting them know about if they don't know for themselves. And I know it sounds strange that love, that energy of love, making someone else's Wow, I feel like my life was fulfilled. If I can look back on this life and say, wow, I've left the world a better place, and I found it.

Alex Ferrari 1:35:57
If you had a chance to go back in time and speak to little James, what advice would you give him?

James Van Praagh 1:36:01
Don't come back,

Alex Ferrari 1:36:05
But apple at $7

James Van Praagh 1:36:10
I would just say, Don't be as judgmental, critical, and that everybody has a story.

Alex Ferrari 1:36:17
How do you define God or Source?

James Van Praagh 1:36:19
One. Is one omnipresent, nurturing energy, beautiful. Thank you.

Alex Ferrari 1:36:26
What is love?

James Van Praagh 1:36:27
God, Love, Us, You, Me, Everyone. Everyone is love. Everything is love.

Alex Ferrari 1:36:31
If you could ask God one question, what would it be?

James Van Praagh 1:36:34
First could I believe in God even an entity?

Alex Ferrari 1:36:36
Or source, whichever.

James Van Praagh 1:36:39
What would it be?

Alex Ferrari 1:36:40
Which, if you, if you had a chance to ask the the source of all of this a question, what would it be?

James Van Praagh 1:36:45
Why? Why?

Alex Ferrari 1:36:48
Why? Is a great question. Yeah. And finally, what is the ultimate purpose of life?

James Van Praagh 1:36:51
Love, self, love, love, I think really love of self and love of others. I think that's really what it is about beautiful answer and seeing yourself into someone else.

Alex Ferrari 1:37:02
Yeah, it's stuff that Jesus talks

James Van Praagh 1:37:06
Jesus isn't around you know, among other masters, probably walking with them, and those sandals.

Alex Ferrari 1:37:11
And it was just simple. It's, these are simple core

James Van Praagh 1:37:14
The truths are very simple. It's, it's the human being that wants to get caught up in the complexity of the simplicity. That's really what humans do. That's a really, really simple it's love or fear, but they wouldn't get caught up in complexity.

Alex Ferrari 1:37:26
Where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing?

James Van Praagh 1:37:28
I have a school online called the JVP School of mystical arts, over 41 courses, and then I have a website, vanpraagh.com, V, A, N, P, R, A, A, G, H.com,

Alex Ferrari 1:37:38
And do you have any parting messages for the audience, James?

James Van Praagh 1:37:40
Be yourself. Everybody else is taken.

Alex Ferrari 1:37:44
James, it is such a pleasure, my friend.

James Van Praagh 1:37:47
Thank you, Alex.

Alex Ferrari 1:37:48
For coming on the show. I adore you. I adore everything that you've not only done in the past, but what you're continuing to do thank you in this life and helping awaken the planet.

James Van Praagh 1:37:57
Thank you. Thank you, Alex. Appreciate it.