Astrology, Karma, and the Path Ahead for Humanity with Heather Ensworth

Alex Ferrari 0:00
What's your take on the the consciousness karma, humanity's karma that we are dealing with?

Heather Ensworth 0:08
We're a little bit dangerous right now, but if we can move into higher consciousness, we can reconnect with our galactic friends and allies again, this opportunity now to remember who we are and move into higher consciousness. We don't have to keep going through that cycle. Who are glimpsing the capacity of what it means to be not bound in time and space and not caught in this illusion of linear time. Is that really about an increase in consciousness, or is that an increase in technology? See, I think that part of the danger that we're in, and from my perspective, the shadow aspect of the Age of Aquarius would be an increasing idealization of technology.

Alex Ferrari 0:57
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Heather Ensworth 1:40
Great! Great to be here.

Alex Ferrari 1:41
Thank you so much for coming on on the show. I'm really looking forward to our conversation, because it's a different angle on what's happening in the world. And you're, we're going to kind of go deep, deep, deep, down that rabbit hole about it. But can you tell a little bit? Can you tell people a little bit about who you are and what, what like, what got you into what you're doing today?

Heather Ensworth 2:04
So I started out actually with an interest in cultural anthropology, which really ties into why I'm so interested in the Yuga cycle. And then I became a psychologist. Was a psychologist for many years, and then had a really profound spiritual experience that led me to leave all of that and just to begin to explore other ways of healing ancient wisdom. It led me into exploring astrology. And then once I was exposed to astrology, I couldn't turn back. So I just have been diving deeper and deeper into that, and really interested, in particular, in these larger cycles of our human history and the evolution of our consciousness as humanity, and why this is such a critical time that we're in now.

Alex Ferrari 2:55
Heather, I love that you say these larger cycles, because I've been saying this on the show a lot is that, you know, life is cyclical. Everything is cyclical. The universe is cyclical. It just constantly is going, you know, up and down and, you know, and we'll, we'll dive into the Yuga cycles in a minute. But according to those cycles, you know, we are on an upswing, going towards enlightenment, going towards higher consciousness. But there is a moment when, in that moment, nowhere in any of our lifetimes, when we will start to go back the other way and go back down towards the Dark Ages, if the cycle continues. But we'll, we'll jump into, can we jump off the cycle or not, as a as a species, in a minute. But can you tell everybody who doesn't know what the Yuga cycles are? What are the Yuga cycles, and what are this? What are these larger cycles that we are dealing with as a as a species?

Heather Ensworth 3:52
So the Yuga cycle is the same as the processional cycle. It's this 24,000 years cycle where we go through these different astrological ages. And what's interesting is ancient cultures dating back 12,000 years ago, knew about these cycles, and you can track them by looking at what stars are rising before sunrise at the time of Spring Equinox here in the northern hemisphere, or the autumn equinox in the southern hemisphere, and you'll see that from our Earth perspective, the sky seems to shift one degree every 72 years, such that over about a 2000 year period, the constellation Rising before sunrise in the spring equinox will shift. So we're transitioning now out of the Age of Pisces into the Age of Aquarius. But this 24,000 year cycle, I believe, is related to our being in orbit with a binary star. Star. And I think that binary star is the brightest star in our sky, Sirius, which has been honored in ancient cultures for 1000s of years. So we're in this cycle of orbiting with this star. And part of what I wonder is if, as we come closer to Sirius, we increase in consciousness. As we get further from our binary star, we begin to go into that forgetting and descending cycle of consciousness.

Alex Ferrari 5:34
Heather, let me stop you for a second, because I've heard this concept before, but I never heard it with serious I heard that as we get closer to the center of the universe, we become more conscious. As we start pulling away from the center of the universe, with these cycles, we start to forget more. But I never heard it being mentioned as Sirius, because Sirius is just a star, like any other obviously different star, little bit, has a little bit more success to her, uh, than other stars, let's just say

Heather Ensworth 6:04
Very powerful star,

Alex Ferrari 6:06
Very powerful star. But there are millions, if not billions, of other powerful stars out there. So this star is some something very specific to us. Can you explain to me what bind was about? Did you say binary? Yeah. What does the binary star mean? As far as like, why will our consciousness grow? Because we're getting closer to this star, and vice versa.

Heather Ensworth 6:29
So Walter Cruttenden is the one that has talked about how 80% of the stars in our galaxy are binary stars. So it's highly likely that our Sun is a binary star in a relationship with another star. There's a lot of controversy over what that might be, but I strongly believe it's serious and part of what's interesting to think about. If we think about the fact that our Sun is a binary star, it means that we develop in the context of relationship. Instead of thinking of our Sun as the solar hero in the middle of the solar system, operating in isolation, we're developing and evolving in relationship with this other star that I think the connection with Sirius, also where we are moving through the galaxy, as you said, has a significant impact on us in terms of galactic energies coming to us that activate the pineal gland, activate increases in consciousness. So I think it's a combination of factors that are at play. But it really shows that we move through these cycles that impact our evolution of consciousness. And what's really significant is about every 12,000 years, we go through the galactic current sheet, which we're moving through now, which is a part of what activates increased solar energies. We're getting more galactic cosmic energies that activate shifts in consciousness. But it also is a time where his history would show that every 12,000 years, at the midpoint of the processional cycle and the ending of one, beginning of a new one, where we are now. We also face times of major potential cataclysmic reset. So we're in that critical time of change on the planet right now, both in terms of our consciousness and in terms of what can unfold for us historically.

Alex Ferrari 8:47
So when you say cataclysms, I get I get that with the Younger Dryas and these other that was the last, that was the last time correct was the Younger Dryas period, which was right around when Atlantis was happening, according to Plato. And ain't it funny how things work out? So I get that, and from what I understand, the Younger Dryas was created by an immense amount of water that was released because something, I think there might have been an asteroid that hit the ice sheet and flash melted an obscene amount of water and then just changing the landscape of the entire planet, hence the flood myths that is in every culture around the world. Is this from what you're seeing? Are we expected to do something that radical to our actual environment, or is it a massive shift within our own consciousness, or is it a slight bit of both, not as extreme as the younger tribes, hopefully, but there is stuff happening. We can kind of see it already,

Heather Ensworth 9:48
But that's the critical issue. I mean, that's the critical question, because the Vedic texts, other ancient prophecies, talk about these times in the processional cycle, and 12,000 years. Ago, it was the great flood. And as you said, that's encoded in myths from around the world. The Vedic texts talk about this time as potentially a cataclysm of fire, which would be potentially comet activity that triggers massive fires and a cataclysm on the planet. I believe that as we're at this critical point of moving into the ascending cycle of the Yuga cycle, the time of ascending consciousness, I believe that we have the capacity to make an evolutionary leap and stop going through this cycle of ascending and descending consciousness, in which case, I think we won't have to go through that cataclysmic reset. But I think part of why these cataclysmic resets happen, if you think about everything is arising out of consciousness we live in the sea of cosmic consciousness. I think when we as humanity get too far out of balance, too caught in our sense of ego or sense of separation, too disconnected from the harmony of the cosmos, then the cosmos helps us reset, heal, awaken, come back into balance. But I think if we have this opportunity now to remember who we are and move into higher consciousness, we don't have to keep going through that cycle.

Alex Ferrari 11:41
So when you're saying reset is, is that we are still in the we still have the ability to not have to deal with a fiery Cataclysm or a watery Cataclysm if we want to. Or is that just in the books, and how we deal with it is going to be how we deal with it? Can you kind of explain that a little bit?

Heather Ensworth 12:01
If you look at the cycle and the fact that part of bipu Dev, Misra has done some amazing research on this, that part of what happens every 12,000 years is we go through the center of the torrid comet swarm, Which is when we're most vulnerable to comet impacts that triggered the Great Flood 12,000 years ago could trigger a cataclysm now, and he sees that window of greatest risk as 2032 to 2036

Alex Ferrari 12:38
These numbers Are again coming up and up again and again during during my shows, because everyone's it's saying between now and 2032 is going to be a rough ride, and then 2032 to around their 36 there's something going to happen. But no, no one's saying at least that I unders that I've heard from my guests and other research that I've done, that we're going to have a massive reset, meaning like it. It's going to be game over. A million people are going to be left behind, and the world will start again. I don't see that happening, because we are at a level that we've never been at before as humanity, as far as consciousness is concerned, is that what you're seeing, hopefully

Heather Ensworth 13:28
Not, not quite. Alex,

Alex Ferrari 13:29
Okay, tell me what you see. Tell me what you see.

Heather Ensworth 13:32
So I see that. You know, in so many ancient prophecies, talk about this as a potential time of crisis on the planet. And part of what I believe is, you know, we've exited the Kali Yuga as of March of this year. So we've come out of that time of our lowest level of consciousness. And I think that we're being guided by the energies of the cosmos, by galactic beings, by Inner Earth beings, to wake up and move into higher consciousness. And I do believe that we have that capacity, then to radically transform and not stay caught in these repeating historical cycles. But we're also seeing on the planet right now a lot of chaos, a lot of the shadow aspects of humanity. So I see this period from 2025 to 2032 as the karmic choice point time that we as humanity, we have free will and we can choose to move into higher consciousness and make this evolutionary leap that I think will lead us into ascension and into radical new ways of being. As humans, but we also have the choice to resist that, to stay caught in the patterns of the past, in which case, I think then we're likely to face a dimensional divide, where those who are awakening, moving into higher consciousness will move into a different dimensional reality, and those who choose to stay caught in the out of balance patterns of the past may, in fact, experience that cataclysmic reset.

Alex Ferrari 15:32
So I've heard this before, where you're shifting into different realities depending on where you are what you've chosen to do. So there is definitely a sense of that already in the world, that there's places in the world that is definitely stuck in the old patterns. There's countries, there's governments, there's communities around the world that are stuck in those old patterns. And then there's other aspects. There's other countries, there's other communities that are above and above, but at a different level than than that. Is that what you're kind of talking about, because, like, if you're saying, let's say Country X right now, I'm not going to pull anybody out, but Country X right now, super enlightened, renewable energy. Their food is clean, their education is fantastic. Crime is very, very low. They seem to be a bit more evolved than other countries. And then there is other countries that are, you know, very repressive, still towards women, and the masculine energy is very high, and all that those two places do exist in the world, though, Country X, I wish Country X existed exactly the way I just presented it, but because I would move to Country X, but, but there are elements of Country X in a bunch of different countries, in a bunch of different communities around the world. Is that what you mean? Because, just because there's certain areas of the world that can have two tsunamis, cataclysms, earthquakes, fires, all these kind of things. It doesn't affect other areas of the world. Is that what you mean by different realities? Or if somebody living in that that lower energy country, let's say there's somebody who is a higher consciousness person who happens to live in this country, because they have no other choice at the moment. Are they going to live the same reality as the rest of the people in that these are, these are hard questions. Heather, I want to do the best you can ask.

Heather Ensworth 17:31
Yes, I wish I had all the answers. But really, I mean, these are really good questions, because I think this is what we're feeling and what we're facing, and from my perspective, like you said, we're already feeling these different dimensional realities playing out on the planet. I don't see it so much as different countries, so much as you really see these different levels of consciousness in the collective where you have some people who are just awakening and moving through their healing process rapidly and opening to new ways of being and higher consciousness. And then you have people that are really caught in the patterns of the past and disconnection, destruction, violence, lashing out. So I think we're seeing those different dimensionals, dimensional realities already playing out. But my sense is we're being called in the Peruvian shamans that I trained with talk about how we're meant to become homo luminous ones, Beings of Light, think we're meant to move into this fifth dimensional reality, where we come from the heart and we are living in another level of consciousness, another dimensional reality that will be different than the third dimensional reality that we're in right now. So what I see is the potential in that period, 2032 to 2036 is that if we don't collectively make the transition and transformation, then we may see a movement of some into a fifth dimensional New Earth, while the third dimensional Earth goes through its cycle of reset.

Alex Ferrari 19:26
Yeah, and when I said countries, it's because I was recently on vacation, and I was in different areas of the world, and, you know, I'm sitting there, and I'm like, in this area where all these people are, and I'm like, this, I kept saying to my wife, this is a Parallel Reality, like we are literally in a parallel reality, right? And it's parallel, because right now in Austin, this is, you know, Austin. Life is happening in New York. New York Life is happening in LA, LA's life. And Bing and bang and benjing is the same thing. So where I was in these these little towns in these different countries. We would just be, we'd be kind of in awe of like, oh, this is a completely different reality of food and of people and of consciousness. And, you know, it was just completely different. And what was happening there was not really being affected by what was happening in Austin. So in Austin, my life could be very, very different than it was when I was in another country or another town. It's, would you agree to that? Like, there's literally we have parallel realities everywhere. That's what is. We vacation in a parallel reality, like a paradise. We're like, Should we move here? This is really well, there's nothing to do, but it's really cool to just chill, you know. But there, but, you know, people in Hawaii right now are surfing, you know, and eating pineapples and doing everything they do in Hawaii and New York is a completely different vibe, right? But it's a parallel reality,

Heather Ensworth 21:04
Very true. And as you were saying before, I mean, there are parts of the world right now that are mired in war and Trump suffering and hunger. So yes, we're, we're seeing this, this spectrum of realities playing out on the planet right now.

Alex Ferrari 21:22
And I've noticed too that there is, there is a kind of Call of certain areas of the world where people who are going to a higher level of consciousness are being drawn to and they move away from the big cities, and maybe they go into a more rural sir, or maybe they move like from the US, maybe they move to Europe, or maybe they move to the to to Asia, and they find they're just being drawn to different areas where I've been a New Yorker for all my life. But you know what? This isn't feeling it for me anymore. I gotta go, I gotta go to Austin, or I gotta go to Hawaii, or I gotta go to go to Spain, because I feel that's where I need to be, because that's the energy that I'm being drawn to. Is that something you're seeing as well?

Heather Ensworth 22:06
Oh, absolutely. And there are some cities and towns that are, they call themselves transition towns, that are very consciously moving into new paradigms, creating new forms of economy, living more in connection with the earth, having stronger environmental concerns and creating communities that are collaborative and creative and functioning from higher consciousness. So yes, I think more and more people are making moves to be some place where they can be in community with others who are trying to move into new paradigms. And then there are towns that are very consciously working that,

Alex Ferrari 22:50
You know what I find fascinating as well, on the subject of kind of a decision that consciously that we're all making as a group. In Europe, they made a decision a long time ago that food was going to be first and foremost for the health of the populace, not a profit first scenario. That was it, good, bad, indifferent their food. They just wouldn't allow certain things to be in their food system. That was a conscious choice by a very large group of humans, and then in the US, Profit First was the way everyone went. So that's why you have all these chemicals and and preservatives and corn syrup and all this other and GMOs and all this other crap that's in our food system. That's why you could eat bread in Europe and not have a problem, by the way, I did, and it's delicious, but, but I'm noticing here now people are going wait a minute, why does my Coca Cola have corn syrup in it? And Mexico has sugar, and Canada has real sugar, and Europe has real sugar. It's the same company. Why are you giving us the crap? Because you're making a few more cents off of every bottle or every can. And now that's starting to change. I mean, I've been seeing videos of people taking, I won't say the name of the cookie, but it's a cookie with a little cream filling. It's a little sandwich, and they're putting a blow I don't know what, they put a blowtorch to it to see what would happen. And they would hold it for five seconds, 10 seconds up to a minute, or two minutes with a blowtorch, and it wouldn't break down because of all the chemicals in it. And I was just like, so there's a lot of that coming up where that never was even a conversation. You would just it, just no one cared. But now people are starting to care more, and the consciousness around just that one area of food is shifting. The consciousness around religion is shifting. The consciousness around education is shifting around media shift. Everything seems to be shifting, and I'm using those two large areas, Europe and America as a as a reference point. Europe doesn't have it all figured out, trust me, and neither do we. But in different areas, they have it more figured out than us, and we have things a little bit more figured out than they do in certain areas. But I'm seeing that is that. Does that make sense to you?

Heather Ensworth 25:20
Totally. I do think as we're coming out of the Kali Yuga, we're seeing more clearly how out of balance we've been in so many areas. So I do think there are shifts that are starting to happen. But I think part of what we're looking at is I don't see the bigger shifts coming from our existing political systems. So even though we're seeing some of those ways in which people are more conscious and are pushing for changes in corporations or in laws, I think as we move into the Age of Aquarius, it's going to be more of a grassroots change, where people in community will be collaborating together to create new dynamics in community and new ways of coming back into harmony with the Earth, with each other, with the life around them in new ways, and that it will grow out of that grassroots process.

Alex Ferrari 26:27
Well there, I mean, we you can see it now, when there's a disaster, whether it be the fires in LA, a hurricane in South Florida, flooding in Texas, whatever it might be, the government takes forever to move. FEMA takes forever to move. And what I've seen personally, firsthand, because I lived in South Florida for a long time and dealt with a lot of hurricanes, is that community, everyone just rallies very, very quickly and starts helping each other, helping your neighbor. It's beautiful. It's really beautiful to see. It's sad that it takes a disaster to make that happen. But all the things that happened in LA earlier this year with the fires, obviously, government did not have that handled. I mean, just the basic fire department didn't have water for God's sakes. So the rest of the rest of the rest of the community started. The rest of the city started to create, you know, community and helping and and systems. And they started doing that here in in Austin or in Texas, one of the reasons we have a supermarket chain, it's very famous here. It called H E B, and h e b is has such goodwill with the people that they trust heb more than they do the local government, because when the Fit hits the Shan, as they say, they are the ones getting out water, getting out the supplies to people. And it's not profit first. It's help the community first. These are our people. These are our customers. Let's help them. So it goes it goes far beyond the political system. Because I agree with you, the political system is absolutely around the world is Yeah, but it's starting to crack. You're starting to see major cracks. I think the first major crack that that we saw here in the States was when Nixon got caught, and that was the first time we're like, oh, wait a minute, what? There's our government is not looking out for us. What are you talking about? Seems so naive now, but then it's been cracking ever since. But recently it's been really fractured, and it's not working, and there's going to be some sort of demand from the people in the near future. They said, We need to change this system, because it's just not working for us anymore, just like they're changing the food system the media like this is a change in the media, you know, having these kind of open communicate, open conversations publicly to hundreds of 1000s of people, if not millions of people who get to watch this kind of stuff, where before you would you and I would have never seen the air.

Heather Ensworth 29:13
That's all very true. And I think that these shifts that were being called into it can be an evolutionary leap, as opposed to incremental change. And you're right, the systems as they are, are falling apart. We're seeing how dysfunctional our political systems, medical systems, educational systems, all of our systems are, and the movement is and the paradigms we're being called into are about moving out of profit, first, power over control, paradigms into creativity, collaboration, harmony, balance.

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Heather Ensworth 31:13
So but I think and my dear friend Elizabeth Satoris, who is an evolution biologist, talked about when a species hits a crisis point, it's the time where you can actually make an evolutionary leap into a whole new way of being. And I think that's where we as humanity are, that it won't be incremental change, gradual shifts over periods of years or generations, we have this opportunity, I think, in the next seven years, to make a radical evolutionary shift.

Alex Ferrari 31:50
What do you what's your take on the the consciousness karma, humanity's karma that we are dealing with, and is this a time for karmic, karmic change, or dealing with the karma that we have as a species has dealt with, I gotta believe that humanity has a bit of a karmic bill to pay on the planet. But is there, according to the yugos, or according to any of the astrology, that karmically is something that we're kind of coming to grips with.

Heather Ensworth 32:23
I really see this, you know, and this is where it's interesting being a psychologist as well as an astrologer, you know, if, if you've experienced trauma in your lifetime, to really move into wholeness, you have to bring that into consciousness, heal that clear, that take responsibility for how it's impacted your life, the patterns you've gotten caught into, in order to make significant change. And I think we as humanity are needing to reflect on how out of balance we've become in this time of the Kali Yuga, the past five to 6000 years, you know, it's getting caught in the patriarchal paradigms. Is the aberration in the Yuga cycle, in the processional cycle. It only happens in the time of the Kali Yuga that we get caught in these power over paradigms that are about control and competition and conflict. So I think as humanity, we're remembering, we're beginning to see the trauma that has resulted from that and the suffering and the level of destruction and disconnection, and we're being called to heal. We can't move into higher consciousness if we don't heal and clear these patterns from the past, otherwise, they keep controlling us and we keep playing them out. In that sense, we're radically called into consciousness, awakening, healing in order to move into higher consciousness.

Alex Ferrari 34:04
What is the name of the next cycle in the Yuga cycles? And how long is it?

Heather Ensworth 34:07
So if you're going through the cycle as as it's played out over and over again, we're coming out of the Kali Yuga into the Para yuga. The para lasts 3000 years. Then we go into the Treta, then we go into the Satya, the golden age. So it's this time of gradual, increasing, ascending consciousness, and then starting 12,000 years ago, in the age of Leo, we started in the Treta, Yuga, Silver Age in the Greek version of it, and then continue to go into descending consciousness.

Alex Ferrari 34:48
Is the peak of the low was that the Dark Ages?

Heather Ensworth 34:52
The peak of the low was really at the midpoint of the age of Aries, which was about 1000 BC.

Alex Ferrari 34:59
1000 BC, yeah, so that was the peak. But then the dark ages seemed a little bit darker than that, didn't it?

Heather Ensworth 35:08
Well, the whole Kali Yuga is the time of darkness, of forgetting, of being caught in this shadow aspect of humanity.

Alex Ferrari 35:17
And it doesn't have to be gradual. It can, it can kind of go and then go lower and then come back up a little bit and during that time. So that's how the because the dark ages is, hence the name Dark Ages. There nothing happened for hundreds of years, until the Renaissance kicked in, and then all of a sudden we started to grow. And can you explain to me, from the yugas, from from the astrological and the Yuga perspective and the Vedic text perspective. Why is it that we in the last 150 years have evolved more, I think, consciously and technologically, so rapidly, more than we have in the last 5000 years? Like, it's this insane amount of change. Like, when my grandfather was born, there were no planes, and then when he died, there was internet, you know, and I mean, everything else he saw during his lifetime, you know, going onto the moon, all this kind of stuff. So it was like it's such a massive speed up of growth. And now, every day seems like there's something new coming out. It's growing so exponentially faster than it did even when I was a younger man in the 70s, 80s and 90s. It grew, but it just was a lot like I always say the internet kicked in. It took us about five, six years for it to really start. You know, the technology to catch up, and we to catch up with it. And then it took, you know, Amazon took forever to get going, all that kind of stuff. But now AI just showed up, like, two years ago, and now it's everywhere, and now it's growing faster than ever than we can even catch up with it, literally. So what is there any kind of guidance or information with?

Heather Ensworth 37:09
The thing that I think is important to look at is, was that really about an increase in consciousness, or is that an increase in technology? See, I think that part of the danger that we're in. And from my perspective, the shadow aspect of the Age of Aquarius would be an increasing idealization of technology, and focusing on developing more and more technology and moving in the direction of AI and transhumanism versus part of what I think is profound when you look at the ancient cultures, they understood that when we access the full capacity of our consciousness, it's beyond the capacity of any technology that we could develop that the galactic beings move through the galaxy with their consciousness. So I think that's some of the evolutionary leap that we're being called into now is to remember the capacity of our consciousness. Then, from my perspective, technology, the internet, artificial intelligence, it's like the training wheels. It's like, oh, it we have this ability to communicate with each other across time and space. Well, when we remember the capacity of our consciousness that we can be telepathic. We don't need the internet, we don't need technology. And I think that's some of the critical choice point that we're in right now. Do we get stuck in scientific materialism and an idealization of technology, or do we remember the capacity of our consciousness,

Alex Ferrari 38:57
And when I meant the consciousness grew in 150 years. I do believe that 150 year ago, our consciousness was a very different level than it is today. So it has grown. We are, our laws are, are just the way we approach things like, you know, women, you know, 150 years ago, women not treated superly, not really well, slavery, all that kind of stuff. So there has been some slow but has been some raising of consciousness up until now, where we're like, Hey, you can't just shoot somebody in the street because you don't want to. Are there things that happen like that? Yeah, but it's not. It doesn't happen every 10 minutes like it did in the West. You know, you know things that there's certain things that have elevated, and that's what I meant by our consciousness.

Heather Ensworth 39:42
Yeah, I think you're I think that's true. And I also think, and this is part of what's unsettling to see in the world right now. I also think since we've been exiting the Kali Yuga in this period of time transitioning, we're also seeing a backlash. We're seeing more authority. Syrian governments, we're seeing some regressive tendencies towards more prejudice, racism, sexism, imbalance, power over so we're we're, again, we're seeing that full spectrum.

Alex Ferrari 40:16
But now there's a force against it. Though, in the past, the voices against it were very small and quiet, if at all, because it would be snuffed out. Where today the voices the opposition is much larger. In Rome, you couldn't say anything, you know, Julius would have just, you know, to the to the lions, you go, kind of thing. Where now there is an opposition, but I do believe that, with everything you're saying, that I agree that all of those, those things are happening, but it's the it's the death rattle that they're trying to hold on to, like it's literally the last grip that they're trying to hold on to. I see it in in organized religion, especially, you know, these larger organizations that I used to be, one of them, recovering Catholic. I liked it. I liked the joke. But you could see just using the Vatican as an example, the Vatican before was all powerful, not no one questioned it. Now, everyone questions it, and its power is waning, comparably to where it was when I was born, or when you were born, you know, it is definitely changed, but there's these last bit of No, no, I don't want to let go. If that energy does does not want to go. And also, do you? Do you believe that all of this has to come up for us to finally deal with it all. Have to bring the shadow into the light, because the only thing that defeats the shadow is light. You have to deal with it. You cannot hide it. And it's been hidden on underneath, like, like, I always, I always use the analogy of the the aquarium. When you've ever had an aquarium fish, the water looks clear, but all this, all the crap, all the soot, is at the bottom, and the second you you pour some water in, all of it just comes up so that consciousness is the water being poured in, and all the darkness comes up, and now we have to kind of deal with it and clean it out in order for us to move on. Does that make sense?

Heather Ensworth 42:13
Totally. I agree with both of what you're saying, that it's the death rattle. It's the final clinging to those old paradigms, and some are resisting letting go of those old patterns. But I also fully agree with you that it's like it's, it's a time of purging. It's almost like some of the intensity of what's been playing out on the planet is now right in our faces. You know, I think as Uranus moved into Gemini, it was calling us into seeing more clearly what's been hidden, that needs to heal, that needs to clear. Because we do have to face those out of balance patterns and clear them in order to move into higher consciousness. We can't just do a spiritual bypass and override it. We have to see the trauma, the imbalance, clear, it, heal, it to move into higher consciousness.

Alex Ferrari 43:14
Now let's go into the ancient myths a little bit. There's a myth of Inanna, if I'm not mistaken, how does that myth and if you can tell us a little bit about that myth, where it comes from, what culture created it, how is it guiding us around reclaiming our sacred balance, to start to remember more of who we truly are?

Heather Ensworth 43:38
Yeah, I love the ancient myths. Oh, well, the myth of Inanna is extraordinary in that it's all about the Venus cycle. And I really believe it's describing the cycle of Venus from being an evening star into her disappearance in her inferior conjunction between the Earth and the Sun to then re emerge as a morning star, but it's also an incredible description of how we can go through this journey of transformation. The story is also about Inanna trying to recover a lost relationship with her sister, who's been repressed and pushed into the underworld. But I think at a deeper level, archetypally, it's about anana's journey of realizing she's out of balance and needs to reclaim lost parts of herself, to go through a death rebirth, a transformational process to emerge in a new way. So I think it's very much about our own cycle of healing and transformation. But I think an even more powerful myth about the processional cycle is the story of Isis and Osiris. Mm. And Isis has always been seen as the star Sirius and Osiris seen as the constellation Orion, which I think the constellation Orion powerfully symbolizes our journey of shifts in consciousness through the processional cycle, Orion, literally changes in its declination. And 12,000 years ago, was low on the horizon, and now is at its highest point in the sky. So it literally is charting these shifts that we're in. But it's also a myth about Osiris and his brother set getting caught in this conflict, power struggle. Osiris ends up getting killed. ISIS revives him, brings him back into his life, into wholeness for him, only to get torn apart again by his brother. And so I think it's a powerful story about these cycles and how Osiris was living in this higher consciousness, gets caught in chaos with his brother, who's caught up in a power struggle and ends up killing him, and that is the pattern we get caught in in our lower levels of consciousness. And ISIS Sirius comes in to revive us, heal us, restore us, to start again. But again, I think that story is showing us, if we move into higher consciousness, remember who we are, reclaim that we don't have to keep doing this to ourselves. We can, I think, make an evolutionary leap to step out of going through that cycle of ascending and descending consciousness.

Alex Ferrari 47:01
Are we the, are we the reality show of the universe?

Heather Ensworth 47:06
I think we are.

Alex Ferrari 47:09
I mean, currently, definitely currently. I mean people, you have to believe there's somewhere there's a TV set, like, let's see what the humans are up to now. Oh, wow. This is, ooh, this is good stuff, because there's nothing but drama. This is planet drama,

Heather Ensworth 47:24
In a profound way. We are playing out this journey of what it means to forget who you are and come back into remembrance, come back into balance. And this is such a critical choice point for us, and I think it's affecting the galaxy. I do think that other galactic beings are very invested in how we work this through and are trying to support us, but we have free will, and it will be up to us the choice that we make.

Alex Ferrari 47:54
I think we've said this a few times in our conversation, the remembering of who we are. It's such a powerful, powerful idea, because the more that we be, you know, again, I have a very unique perspective on this because of the amount of people I talk to from different walks of life. And, you know, I don't think there's a lot of other human beings that have this kind of access to amazing people like yourself, that we have these deep conversations. I mean, weekly I have these conversations. So I'm seeing patterns arise from these different walks of life. And one thing I keep seeing is that ideas started to seeds were starting to flourish. And I think the 60s is when it really started. The 60s started these seeds, and then they started to flourish more in the 90s, and now they're flourishing again in this time period where just the idea of a near death experience. Near death experiences have been around since the beginning of time. We've just been we've gotten a lot better of reviving people. So there's more near death experiences than there were before. But the concepts that near death experiencers tell me about interconnectedness, about under having complete understanding of the universe, instantly you have a question that's already answered. By the time you finish answering the asking the question, you just understand it and you just it's a knowing. It's not knowledge, it's a knowing which so different, the interconnectedness, the being able to speak with anybody at any time, instantly, if you want to be somewhere, you just are these systems that we're building on Earth. They're just they're just basically popsicle sticks and glue versions of what we're able to do in our real life, as opposed to what we're doing down here. So the internet is a perfect example of being able to communicate with the world, but it's very rudimentary, comparatively to higher consciousness. The Yogis have taught us this. The Ascended Masters and the master the walking masters have taught. Taught us this kind of stuff. Would you agree with that?

Heather Ensworth 50:03
Totally, I totally agree with that and that yes, and perhaps, we've gone through this cycle to experience being in density, to experience forgetting, to experience that sense of being separated from source, to remember who we are, come back into balance and have more appreciation for this capacity that we have when we reclaim our consciousness. There's I think there's something we're learning and a way we're transforming in this journey. But I totally agree with you that near death experiencers and others who are glimpsing the capacity of what it means to be not bound in time and space and not caught in this illusion of linear time, but to be able to reclaim what we're capable of with our consciousness

Alex Ferrari 50:59
And that the you know, for the souls who are trying to awaken, the world is getting better, but it's still not a place for the awakened soul. You know, schools don't want you to think for yourselves. Religion definitely doesn't want you to think for yourself. Government doesn't educate. I mean, they all have their their old paradigm for the awakened soul, the soul that wants to connect to its inner knowledge. It's a little bit of a difficult ride, depending on what reality you live in. In this world, like we were talking about earlier, it's easier in one place than another, just lights, little lights being shown, flickering of lights around the world, even in the darkest places, who are trying to evolve. And I think in tell me what you think about this, the more you awaken yourself. That's how you awaken others, by your purely just your energy, not preaching, not converting, just by being that alone will help awaken others around you, and so on and so on. Would you agree?

Heather Ensworth 52:07
Beautifully said, I mean, I often have this image of those of us that are awakening being these, you know, Points of Light creating this healing grid around the planet. And one of the gifts for me of being able to do astrology readings is being in conversations with people from all over the world who are awakening. And I do believe the more of us that awakening and hold that light and love of higher consciousness, it it emanates into this morphogenic field, and can shift the collective consciousness in the blink of an eye, if there are enough of us that move into that energy of love and higher consciousness. So I think that's some of what's so critical in this period of time that we're in. Because I think the most powerful form of social activism right now is to be moving into that higher consciousness within yourself and emanating that out to everyone around you, and living from that energy of higher consciousness and love and being in harmony within yourself and with all that is so I think that's absolutely critical in this time.

Alex Ferrari 53:27
Do you remember? I think you are the vintage as I that we will remember this commercial, the if I could buy the world of coke. Yeah, remember that? You remember that commercial? They do. Everybody's holding hands and hands around the world, all that kind of stuff. I feel that we need a new song. It's like, I wish we could awaken the world and peace and harmony, all of that, but another version of that, without it being Coke, but but awakening of the gift of consciousness, the gift of knowledge, the gift of understanding of who you truly are. Because if we could do that, that really could shift the planet very, very quickly. I agree with you, we are on the precipice of massive change. I think we are. I can see it in the numbers that we get on our show, which would have never happened 1015, years ago, and other shows as well, we could see that there is more hunger for this. People are hunting for this. They are. They are searching for this because they are. They're starving. You know, they're starving for this kind of information that because it's not in mainstream media, it's not but you know what I have noticed, there's two movies coming out, one about the afterlife with is it not Ryan Gosling, but another big, two big actors, younger actors, in it's it's a take on the afterlife. And then there's a movie with Keanu Reeves. Seth Rogen about angels, and Keanu Reeves an angel, and he he's tired of just his job is essentially preventing people from dying from texting and driving. That's, it's big job. Is there something I could do a little bit more meaningful? Because really love those phones, like it's, it's, but that's, those are two ideas of major studios putting out films that are not a comic book movie and not a rehash of something else that's a little bit higher consciousness. There was moments of that during the 80s and 90s, with other films. You know what? Dreams May Come even Field of Dreams ghost, there were moments of that, but they're starting. I'm starting to see a little bit more of that in the media, because I think even Hollywood is starting to figure out, oh, maybe they don't want to see another Superman. Hey, I love Superman. But, you know, come on, give us a moment

Heather Ensworth 56:01
Absolutely and you're a filmmaker, I think you know that I see often it's the artists who can often glimpse what's coming and see the new forms and help seed that in the collective. So I do think filmmakers, artists, writers, musicians, are helping support that energetic shift, because the more we visualize it, and the more of us that hold that energy and hold that vision, the more it will spread, the more it will shift.

Alex Ferrari 56:36
I mean, you can see that throughout history, from, you know, from Shakespeare, but specifically from HG Wells and Jules Verne, they they brought in science fiction, the idea of these ideas that they were talking about in their books that inspired generations. That's why we had a space a space program that's all the advances and all of the idea that all that stuff was brought by them. And that's the artist, you know, one of my favorite this is a slightly bit off topic, but again, going back to artists, my one of my favorite films, my favorite films, but favorite books of all time, is Charles Dickens, A Christmas Carol. And it's but when I started to study the Christmas Carol, I realized I'm like, Oh my god. This is a near death experience.

Heather Ensworth 57:22
Wow, yes,

Alex Ferrari 57:23
First near death experience. Scrooge dies, has a life review of his past, of his present and his potential future, and then is brought back, and it's changed ever dramatically by the experience of the death you know. And it's, it's fascinating. I was like, wow, that's the first near death experience in literature that I can think of. Would you do agree? Does that make sense?

Heather Ensworth 57:50
Yeah, totally. I think that totally makes sense. But also, you know, but again, in terms of some of what's come through with films or shows, I mean, I'm an old Star Trek fan, and look at what it was showing us in terms of what we're capable of and how we can come back into connection with other galactic beings if we move into you know, I think in some ways, Earth has been quarantined because we've gotten so out of balance, but I do believe we're a little bit dangerous right now, but if we can move into higher consciousness, we can reconnect with our galactic friends and allies again.

Alex Ferrari 58:35
It's like, it's like a toddler with a with a knife. He's like, okay, okay. Hey everyone. Just relax.

Heather Ensworth 58:42
I'm out.

Alex Ferrari 58:43
Calm down. Is that a samurai sword? Okay, everyone really relax. That's, that's who Earth is. And, I mean, obviously, don't get me started on Star Wars with which was the introduction of spirituality for a generation. Yes, with the force and the ideas of of what George put together in that sequence, yeah, the artists are are always in the front line when it comes to this kind of change, and that's why the artists are the ones who get most of the arrows in the back throughout history, because they push the envelope farther than the establishment wants without question. So let me ask you, astrologically speaking, what, what do you see for us the rest of this year? What are the stars saying? Heather, about this year and the next few because I've heard again between 30 Yeah, 25 2025, and 2032. Is a very significant time. But I heard 2025, to 2027. Is, the rock is going to be the rockier of the two? I might be mistaken. Please explain, from your point of view, what you see.

Heather Ensworth 59:50
Absolutely, I think, and I think 2025 is the biggest year in terms of shifts, and we're experiencing it, the turmoil, the. Rapid shifts that are happening. So from that astrological perspective, this is a very powerful year. I mean, we exited the Kali Yuga in March. We've had Neptune and Saturn move into Aries. We've had Uranus move in to Gemini. So all the outer planets have been shifting, which they're the transformational planets, calling us into these profound shifts in our consciousness. And February of 2026, Saturn and Neptune will be in their exact conjunction at zero degrees of Aries, which is very profound. And I think it is about integrating new forms of spirituality and bringing them into form. And I think if we listen to the shifts of this year, things can continue to stabilize and increase in our moving into new paradigms in the next few years, but this is a critical time of change.

Alex Ferrari 1:01:04
It is, it is, is there any aspects of the shadow that we need to still kind of be prepared for that's coming? Because, as I don't know about you, I don't particularly like to deal with my shadow, but it doesn't care, and comes up anyway. As, as I've said before, the beach ball metaphor, trying to keep the beach ball underneath water, you can hold it down there for as long as you like, but when you get tired, it will pop right back and smack you in the face. And that's the shadow, but over, our entire species and humanity in general. What shadow aspects of the Age of Aquarius that we still have to kind of deal with?

Heather Ensworth 1:01:48
I think Uranus in Gemini is bringing a lot of what's been in the shadow into the light of consciousness and guiding us to see it, to clear it. I also think it's interesting. We're in the year 2025, of solar maximum. So we're getting a lot of solar energies coming to the planet, literally light infusing us, which I think is also a part of what's pushing the shadow into the light of consciousness and activating for all of us, individually and collectively, a way in which we're called to see those shadow aspects of ourselves, to heal in order to shift and move into higher consciousness. But I also think as we're at this cusp of the Age of Aquarius, it's a choice point whether we move into the deeper meaning of Aquarius, which is about rebalancing the sacred masculine and the sacred feminine, coming out of power over dynamics, into collaboration co creation, into that increasing acceptance of diversity and compassion for each other and love or getting more and more caught in idealization of technology, which is the shadow aspect of the Age of Aquarius. And look at what's happening now with this increasing interest in artificial intelligence and transhumanism. So I think that's the shadow aspect of the Age of Aquarius. We need to really face and see and see the choices that we have.

Alex Ferrari 1:03:28
I've heard from near death experiences. I've heard from psychics and channelers about this the future in the regards to where humanity is going, and one aspect of it is there's going to be multiple camps of of humans who will decide to go 100% all natural, like we are currently doing, and then transhumanism. And we've played around with transhumanism for the last 50 or 60 years, with artificial hips and pacemakers and other mechanical things implanted in our bodies to keep us alive, to keep us going, and there is a balance with all of that artificial knees and so on. But what we're talking about now with Transhumanism is a whole other game. We're talking about nanotechnology. We're talking about AI's connected to your system, and as soon as a cell is broken, or, you know, they send something that clean it up, or, I mean, it's it's so scientific, like Jules Verne and HG Wells would be proud of what we're talking about here. But how much trans and, obviously, sci fi movies have been talking about transhumanism forever, but how much of our humanness, humanness is going to be lost the farther we go down the line of transhumanism? Because I do think there's a balance. Like I said, Look, if you need an artificial hip, for God's sakes, get an artificial hip. If not, you're not going to be able to function, and so on and so forth. But there are but there is a point where. You just go, I don't need to have that plug in the matrix so I can lung Kung Fu, though that would be cool, but I don't want, I don't want to be able to tap in that way. I don't need my phone to be in my head. I just go, hello, hello. I don't need that. So how much are we going to lose by going down that road? And do you agree that that will be what the future looks like for humanity? I don't know if on our lifetimes, but couple 100 years from now, I could, I personally can see that that there'll be two camps, one that goes all natural and is more closer to the earth, and the other one that leans much more into technology and goes down that road. What do you think?

Heather Ensworth 1:05:40
That's a very, very significant question for this time. And my sense is that part of what happened 12,000 years ago, as you said earlier in our conversation, that was the time of the fall of Atlantis. And why did Atlantis fall from people that I've interacted with who have past life memories of that time, it was because they got caught in technology and the power that they could have with that technology. And it's interesting that that's the time when we went through this cataclysmic reset on the planet. I I actually believe that if we go that path, then those caught in that dimensional reality of idealizing technology, I believe the planet will go through a cataclysmic reset to call us back into awakening and back into balance. Because I think that would be very dangerous, dangerous for us as humanity, to go too far down that path. And I think it's dangerous in terms of the impact that has on our galaxy. So my sense is we won't be allowed to go too far down that destructive path without being called back into balance again.

Alex Ferrari 1:07:02
Well, you are Trekkie, so Resistance is futile, because

Heather Ensworth 1:07:08
We would become like the Borg

Alex Ferrari 1:07:10
Yeah, we would be the Borgs. Would be absolutely the Borgs. And again, there's, I believe that that is in our path, because it's something that is, I think, needed to a certain extent, technology makes our lives a lot easier, no question, makes our lives a lot harder, and has balance issues accordingly. But I do think that as we move forward, AI, if used like a proper tool, a hammer is a tool. It can kill or it could build. It's really up to the user. Same thing with AI without hammers, we really wouldn't have gotten really far. You know, it'd be a lot harder to build a house without a hammer. So there's certain tools that are needed along the way. And I think AI is just a tool on steroids, because it's so powerful, so encompassing it can be but used properly, I do believe that it does have very beneficial things that could happen for humanity with it.

Heather Ensworth 1:08:05
I think those are valuable tools for now, but again, if we remember what we're capable of with our consciousness, I mean, you've traveled to different places in the world. When I've gone to these ancient sites in Peru or the Great Pyramid in Egypt, or Gobekli Tepe in Turkey. We can't figure out how they built these sites, and I think it's because they understood the power of consciousness, to work with vibration, to work with light and sound. So we have that capacity to really move into that higher consciousness and no longer need the technology that we use today. That is a helpful tool today, but I think we need to move beyond it and really reclaim what we're capable of with our consciousness. And you know, as people like David Clements talks about who is really exploring the meaning of the sub quantum field, that way in which we can tap into source field energy to heal. We don't need hip replacements if we remember how to heal and bring our bodies back into harmony, back into balance. And he talks about how different galactic beings know how to regenerate, know how to tap into that sub quantum field, to heal and change. That's what we're capable of. So I again, I think we need to move beyond our reliance on materialistic reality and scientific materialism and technology to remember what we're capable of.

Alex Ferrari 1:09:45
So less warp speed, more meditation.

Heather Ensworth 1:09:50
Yes, coming from the heart, because that knowing comes from the heart, not from the mind.

Alex Ferrari 1:09:57
Yeah, I I understand what you're saying, and it. It. I gotta wish, I hope I can. I'm alive for that world that you're talking about. It's kind of like my my country, X, I hope we, we get to a place where that is but I do it. I do still agree that I still do, still think that it's a process. It will take a minute to get there. I'm not sure if it'll happen in your lifetime or my lifetime. I think that's the idealized version of it, of us evolving, and I God, I hope it happens that. I hope it happens quickly, because it's painful. I really do.

Heather Ensworth 1:10:30
I actually think it can happen very rapidly, and that's what the shamans that I've trained with would say, because we can change that morphogenic field in a blink of an eye, if enough of us move into higher consciousness. And part of why I'm so interested in 2032 is that in June of 2032 Uranus and Saturn come into a new cycle together. They have a 44 year cycle. They will literally be in the sky in the upraised arm of Orion. And if Orion represents our evolutionary journey as humanity, the upraised arm of Orion, for the ancient Egyptians, was order arises out of chaos. It's the energy of resurrection. So I think we have the capacity, by 2032 to go through this transformational process and resurrection as humanity into a higher state of consciousness, into a new Dimensional Reality and a new earth. I think it's we're capable of that happening across these next seven years?

Alex Ferrari 1:11:44
Well, I think this is why we all decided to come to the show in this incarnation. We all wanted to be front row to this apparently.

Heather Ensworth 1:11:52
Absolutely. I think many of us are here to support that transition and to know that it's possible.

Alex Ferrari 1:12:00
Heather, it's been such a pleasure talking to you. I'm going to ask a couple questions I ask all of my guests, what is your definition of living a fulfilled life?

Heather Ensworth 1:12:10
Living from the heart, aligning with the soul self and being the true fractal expression of cosmic consciousness that you're meant to be.

Alex Ferrari 1:12:20
Beautiful answer. Now, if you had a chance to go back in time in a DeLorean and visit little Heather, what advice would she give you? But what, excuse me, what advice would you give her?

Heather Ensworth 1:12:32
Dare to be different and stay aligned with your inner truth,

Alex Ferrari 1:12:36
And what would she What advice would she give you?

Heather Ensworth 1:12:40
Today, you lost your way for a while, but you're back on track and stay living from your heart and remembering that it's all about that growth in love and wisdom.

Alex Ferrari 1:12:53
How do you define God or Source?

Heather Ensworth 1:12:55
Well, these are easy questions. Alex,

Alex Ferrari 1:12:57
I do what I can. I do what I can. It's not my first barbecue.

Heather Ensworth 1:13:01
I believe that we that, that we live in the sea of cosmic consciousness, this love and wisdom that permeates all that is that we all arise from that source. We're all a fractal expression of that, and we are all a part of that oneness, and that is divine consciousness.

Alex Ferrari 1:13:28
Now, what is love?

Heather Ensworth 1:13:29
Love is Living from the heart and living in right relationship and harmony with all that is.

Alex Ferrari 1:13:38
I mean, you're good at this. I didn't give you these questions before. These are good answers. There. Very good answers. If you could ask God or source one question, what would it be?

Heather Ensworth 1:13:48
I would love to know why we have journeyed through these cycles of consciousness.

Alex Ferrari 1:13:54
And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

Heather Ensworth 1:13:57
I think the ultimate purpose of our coming in and incarnating here is to grow in love and wisdom and to experience the sacredness of embodiment, to bring that experience into the sea of consciousness. That every time we're here and we experience what we experience, we're bringing that into cosmic consciousness,

Alex Ferrari 1:14:24
And where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing in the world?

Heather Ensworth 1:14:28
My website is risingmoonhealingcenter.com, and I have my own YouTube channel where I try to share a lot of my understanding of what's going on astrologically .

Alex Ferrari 1:14:40
Beautiful. And do you have any parting messages for the audience?

Heather Ensworth 1:14:43
That this is such an important time to live from the heart, allow yourself to heal, to open to the love that's there for us. I think the cosmos and the earth are supporting us in this. Time to heal, to transform, to move into higher consciousness. It's there for us and to me, that's part of the beauty of understanding the movement of the stars and planets. It's like we are so being supported and guided to move through this process and to heal and awaken and transform together.

Alex Ferrari 1:15:21
Heather, it has not only been a pleasure talking to you, but I just adore your energy. You have such a beautiful energy to you and your the love comes from you. You can sense it. You can feel it. I appreciate everything you're doing to awaken this planet, my dear. So thank you again, so much for being here.

Heather Ensworth 1:15:38
Thank you, Alex, and thank you for what you're doing.