SURGERY GONE WRONG! Woman DIED; Has PROFOUND NDE & Wants to STAY in HEAVEN! with Dianne Sherman

Dianne Sherman 0:00
The first thing I did after my near death experience of any importance was walk away from the church because I knew it was alive. There's nothing but unconditional love on the other side. How can this doctrinization that they do to us all fear based, be good, be right, be in alignment? So I absolutely walked away. And I was surprised. Kid, you know, I thought about becoming a nun at one point. And you know, I love the ritual. I love I guess there was a spiritual connection for me from the get go. And you know that thing about when you're baptized, you get blind faith. I had it in spades. So, yeah, it was a big deal to walk away.

Alex Ferrari 0:49
I like to welcome to the show Diane Sherman, how you doing Diane?

Dianne Sherman 0:52
I'm doing well Alex, nice to be here.

Alex Ferrari 0:54
Oh, thank you so much for coming on the show. It's been a long time coming. I know we were trying to get here about a year ago, and some stuff happened along the way, but we're here now, and I appreciate you making it to the show.

Dianne Sherman 1:06
Me too. Thank you.

Alex Ferrari 1:08
So my first question to you is, what was your life like before you had your nde?

Dianne Sherman 1:15
Well, I'd sort of come to a standstill in my life. I was divorced, I had a six year old daughter. I had been a model for 17 years, and I'd kind of come to the end of that. I didn't know what the next step was, and that was concerning. So I was kind of hitting the wall emotionally. You know, you get to certain stages in your life where there are markers for you, where you think you know you need to be in certain places. And I wasn't there and feeling badly that I'd not had a successful marriage and whatnot. And so I, like the good Catholic girl that I was, I went to church and prayed and said, you know, help. I need some guidance. What am I doing? Where am I going? I knew there were all kinds of feelings inside of me, but I had no idea what I was supposed to do with those so I just needed guidance. Now, both of my parents were dead at that point. I was in my early 30s, and I just didn't have anybody to go to to say, Hey, this is maybe the next logical step. So here I am praying like crazy, and three days later, I had my near death experience.

Alex Ferrari 2:29
So you were a little bit lost, and I've heard that before, yeah, before we near death, there you kind of on your path, but then you feel like you're going off. Hopefully, I felt lost many times in my life. Thank God I didn't. Maybe, maybe I should have had a near death experience. Who knows? But, oh no, it's a rough way to wait. It's a rough way

Dianne Sherman 2:50
Be careful what you ask for, right?

Alex Ferrari 2:52
Yes, yes. It's a rough it's a rough wake up call. So what happened on the day that, the day that you died?

Dianne Sherman 2:58
Well, you want the short version or the longer version?

Alex Ferrari 3:01
I think, I think we're here to have some fun and enjoy, enjoy your story. So take your time.

Dianne Sherman 3:07
Thank you. I had to go into the hospital for arthroscopic surgery. I had been waiting to do this for 10 years. I'd had an accident in Mexico with my ex husband and dislocated my knee, did all kinds of damage, but could not have the big patella surgery because I was a working model. Having that big scar was not okay. So I waited, and it was finally time to have that. And that morning, I'm I'm sitting on the gurney in the hallway waiting to go into the surgical suite, and I'm just freezing. I'm racking with cold, and part of it, I'm sure, was nerves and whatnot. And this lovely nurse came by me and said, you know, would you like a heated blanket? And I said, Sure, I would love that. That would be great. And she gave me a heated blanket, and that seemed to calm things down. And I'm still a little, you know, unsettled and whatnot, and the next thing I know, I'm in the surgical suite, and they put another blanket on me, and I'm out. I haven't even had the anesthesia yet, and I'm out, which was kind of a precursor, in a way, of what was coming. So at that time, I as a as a working model, I was really thin, and they had so much more damage to do to repair than they knew, because they didn't have MRIs and all that stuff. In 1981 you know, we didn't even well. Arthroscopic surgery was fairly new at that point, but it was still, you know, they knew what they were doing, so I'm on the table like almost two hours longer than I'm supposed to be, and that meant that much longer under anesthesia. And I guess because of my weight distribution and all of that with the. Anesthesia, it was too much for my system. So I'm I'm a sensitive I always have been. So the next thing I know, I'm waking up in recovery, and I'm hearing all this commotion, and I don't want to pay attention to it, because I'm in my own experience right here. You know, I'm trying to groggy and disoriented and whatnot and but I hear all this commotion, and I'm hearing them say, Diane wake up. Diane wake up. And I'm thinking to myself, How weird is that we have the same first name. And a few minutes later, I'm hearing them say, Diane Sherman, wake up. Diane Sherman wake up. At which point I'm thinking, oh my god, did they get the wrong patient? Did they do the wrong surgery? What is happening? And I'm waving to them, trying to get their attention without being intrusive, because clearly whatever they're doing is serious, and they're not paying any attention to me, Alex. And I'm thinking to myself, maybe they can't hear me, and maybe they're just so focused on saving this person's life that you know it's okay. The next thing I know, I'm standing at the bottom of her bed, looking up at her while they're working on her, and I'm looking down at myself. I see me. I'm looking down at me, and I'm looking up at her, and I realize it's me, and I have no connection to the knee in the bed that they're working on. It was as if somebody had said, pass the soul. You know, it was just neutral. There was nothing. And the weird thing was, it wasn't scary or off putting, or it was just I was notating what was happening. You know, I was in that, that frame of reference, where you're just the observer. I was the observer. I don't know that I'd ever been the observer that way in my whole life. So it was new and different. And the next thing I know, oh, and I'm not worried about her, because I have no connection to her in any way, shape or form, she is not me. Next thing I know, I am floating up. I'm in the corner of the surgical room or the post op, and I'm now looking over everything that's going on, and in watching it, there's no real fascination except that something's happening, and I'm not even questioning it, and I'm very analytical. I'm not I'm not going to fear, I'm not going to anything. I'm just watching it, and from there, I'm feeling extricated out of the corner of the ceiling of that room. And now I'm being pushed. And every time I say that I can build my body push against it, I'm being pushed into this abject blackness. And as a kid, I was terrified of the dark, and so being in that absolute blackness where I couldn't see, could I had no reference to anything. It was terrifying. And I'm being pushed forward more and more into it. And I'm thinking to myself, Okay, if I can just find one little glimmer of light, one little, tiny glimmer of light that I can hold on to, I'm going to be okay. And so I'm just like staring and stretching myself to find something. And all of a sudden, as far out as my vision could go, I'm seeing one little, tiny glimmer, and I'm just like, glommed onto that to hold on to it for dear life. And it starts getting bigger and closer. And I'm, like, fascinated by this. And as it's getting closer, the fear, of course, is starting to abate, and I'm just watching this and just hopeful. And, you know, all the feelings of relief, you know, there's something happening where I feel a little sense of control, or a little sense of there's something more than this blackness, and now it's surrounding me. It's everywhere around me, and I'm fascinated by it because it's nothing I've ever seen before. It's a color of white I've never seen and a substance. It's like being in clouds, but not, not exactly that. The White has all the colors of the rainbow in it. You know, it's iridescent, and it's it's loving, and it's protective and it's supportive, and it's here for me, and it's first time I've said that, Alex, I just got that it's here for me. And that was such a Divine Sense of Goosebumps as I'm saying it. That was such a divine sense for me, because I think where I had been before this experience was in a place where I didn't feel people were there for me. So to have this be here for me was Wow. Coming Home, really coming home to that sense of belonging, that sense of you. All rightness within yourself, that that sense of everything you've ever hoped for in your life, whether it was the work of the family or the marriage or the this or the that this was the ultimate goal, was that sense of coming home to self. And I felt that in this in this moment, and as this white is totally surrounding me, I'm now floating in it. I have an odd sense of humor, but at the moment I got the fact that I was floating, I had the awareness that I was thinking, I'm floating, you know, and it was like, it didn't feel unnormal. That's what was so interesting. It felt so right and normal to be floating. So as I'm coming through this white diaphanous cloud like area, there are two rows of monks in front of me, dressed in the brown monks robes with the hoods up. And I know having listened to so many near death experiences, I realized that people have experiences that are analogous to them in some way. And the the monks were kind of like the safest part of my religion, you know. And being in Catholic school for 12 years, I went through lots of missions and whatnot, yes. And the monks were always sweet to me, which the priests were kind of scary, as you know, especially on the days that you had to go to confession, and First Friday was the next. Oh yeah,

Alex Ferrari 11:27
Yeah, the nuns don't fall too far behind the priest. Let's just put that out there.

Dianne Sherman 11:31
Oh no, no, no. I had a nun that literally hated me in my junior year of high school. Yeah, yeah.

Alex Ferrari 11:41
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Dianne Sherman 12:38
So these monks felt okay for me. You know, there was nothing scary going on in this whole experience except being in the dark, and that was my own childhood fear. It really, in retrospect, was a very gentle experience. So now I'm coming to the end of these two rows of monks, and the one on the end steps forward, and He speaks to me, and I say, he because he had all those wonderful male qualities, you know, sort of that masculine being in charge and and knowing what to do, and caretaking and observing and, you know, just he had the energy, had the powerful energy. And he looked at me, and I say, Look. The hood was up, but there was no face, Alex. It was a blackness. And it was almost like little sparks of colored things dancing in this hood. And it almost looked like a picture out of some kind of sci fi film where you see things moving and one but it seemed again, normal, natural, not scary. And he he spoke to me. And when I say spoke, he spoke inside of me. He didn't verbally, say anything out loud. I'm sure you've heard that before. And he spoke to me, and he said, it's not your time. He must go back. And I said, you can't send me back. I've just found home. I've just found feeling cherished. You can't send me back. And he said, it's not your time. You must go back. And I said, you can't bring me this far and send me back. You can't and he said, you have a child. And I said, Yes, I do. He said, Well, you must go back. It's not your time. You have a child. And I started thinking about my daughter, my six year old daughter, who I loved and adored. And I thought, I want to stay. I love my daughter, but I want to stay. And so he kept repeating. And I started thinking about who would take care of her if I stayed. My parents were both gone. My sister was not emotionally healthy enough to raise my daughter. My ex husband was my ex husband for a reason. I didn't have anybody that I couldn't trust her to to be loved and cared for and watched over and supported the way I wanted her to be, and in that. A thought form back in my body. So to this day, I don't know if they sent me or I sent me back, and I won't know until I'm on the other side.

Alex Ferrari 15:10
So when you were on the other side, there was no there's a lot of talks of life, review of, you know, grassy plains relatives waiting for you. None of that do you saw nothing other than these monks.

Dianne Sherman 15:27
I had nothing but that.

Alex Ferrari 15:29
And it was in a darkness, kind of like in a dark place.

Dianne Sherman 15:32
It wasn't a dark place, it was almost like a in a hall someplace, you know, in a in room.

Alex Ferrari 15:40
An institutional, like an institutional kind of style. What kind of style? Well,

Dianne Sherman 15:45
very ancient, sort of, very high ceiling, uh, archways, okay, kind of, you know,

Alex Ferrari 15:53
Stone like, stone ish,

Dianne Sherman 15:56
Stone Age, stone ish, oh, yeah, yeah, Spanish, yeah.

Alex Ferrari 16:02
So that was the kind of environment, and was there any furniture? Was there anything else, or it was just bunch of monks.

Dianne Sherman 16:09
It was just, it was, it was the monks in this room standing in this room.

Alex Ferrari 16:15
How many?

Dianne Sherman 16:16
There were six on either side.

Alex Ferrari 16:18
So do you think that this, it sounds to me that this was your divine Council. It sounds to me that this was your divine Council, and the one who stepped forward is your spirit guide, your the lead, the lead in this life of yours. Does that make sense?

Dianne Sherman 16:34
It makes sense. I would have given him a higher rank, but makes perfect sense.

Alex Ferrari 16:40
So and did nothing else, as far as any other information come into your mind, or anything else that you brought back, or was it just literally this experience, I don't know was it

Dianne Sherman 16:50
Well, in the moment that I was there with them, I was privy to all the information that there is or ever will be.

Alex Ferrari 16:57
So you did have that as well. So you had, you were you, so you were piped in to the universal cloud, if you will, of information. So you were able to so like, Oh, what is physics? Oh, that's what physics is. Oh, what is quantum physics? Oh, that's the meaning of the universe. All of that information was held within you at the moment you were there. Did you ask while you were going through that process? Did you ask any questions that, since you had this come, like, ask questions that you were curious about, or you were just enthralled with the situation?

Dianne Sherman 17:29
I didn't need to ask anything I thought of. Was there, right?

Alex Ferrari 17:34
So, when I say so, when you thought, I mean, did you think of anything? How? So, when you said that you were connected to everything, that and all there is, how, like, how did you interact with that vast amount of information?

Dianne Sherman 17:45
It was just a knowing that I had access to all the information that whatever I needed to know, whatever I needed to understand, whatever I needed to to move forward about or create, or whatever it was all all there for my ability to touch into really and I came back from the experience clairaudient, Claire, sentient, clairvoyant. And my guides through the years have said what you are is clear sight. So that's what I came back to do, is to have clear sight with people.

Alex Ferrari 18:28
So before we go down the road with clear sight, because I want to definitely dive in deep on that when you first when you come back, I always hear that you're going to have you feel pain right away. You feel the density of this, of the third dimension in your body. How was it when you pop back into your body? How did it feel?

Dianne Sherman 18:46
Tight?

Alex Ferrari 18:47
Yeah, that's another way. Yeah, tight, like you're jamming in five pounds of something.

Dianne Sherman 18:52
You know, the, you know, the experience when you sort of startle awake, yeah? Okay, well, it's that 100 times you there's this huge thud feeling in your body. It's like being a sausage in a tight casing. It's like you can't fit and of course, all of your memories, all of your traumas, all of your worries and anxiety come flooding in.

Alex Ferrari 19:21
Interesting and how did you deal when you came back? How did you deal with this experience?

Dianne Sherman 19:30
Well, I didn't know I had had it immediately after my sister and I went to a restaurant. I guess it was about a week after my surgery. I'm still on crutches and, oh, and that's another thing. They got me a blocking that night for whatever reason. And my the person who was sharing the room with me, she'd had much less done to her leg arthroscopy, and she was in so much pain. I never had meds. I had nothing. I. And the doctor said he'd never seen anybody heal as fast as I did. So those were markers for me. And so my sister and I are going into this restaurant about a week later, and all of a sudden, Alex, I can hear sense and feel everybody's everything. And I'm like, what, what is? What's happening to me? I am so on overload, I have no idea what to do with this. I thought I was becoming psychotic because I'm hearing voices and stories and feelings and energy like I'd never experienced in my life.

Alex Ferrari 20:33
It sounds like a character in the X Men who's telepathic, and all of a sudden they can hear everybody's thoughts in the entire room, and sometimes every thought in the in the earth, and it's too it's just too much input. Or super, I'm using superheroes as an example. Or Superman, when you first started hearing everything every it's an overload of the sensories. So that's how you discovered that you came back. That's pretty quick, too. It popped right? You had access to it pretty quickly.

Dianne Sherman 21:02
Well, I didn't understand it, of course. I didn't know why I was having that. I didn't have a connection to what had happened.

Alex Ferrari 21:12
So then, when you were so, so you so when, at what point did you start to realize you did have that experience, and then realize what the heck was happening to you?

Dianne Sherman 21:22
Well, through the process of that experience in the restaurant, I realized something had majorly changed in my life, say the least. And and I need to find out what this is about. And you know how Spirit works, you're led to what you're needing. And I was I, I was having a facial with this woman, and she's sharing something with me about my face. And I said, Well, you know, I've been having these funny experiences, and we're talking about that. And she said, Oh, I know exactly who you need to see. Send me to this wonderful woman who taught me how to meditate, and we would journey into crystals and do all these weird things that I didn't know. People did stuff like this was a whole new world for me. You know, I'm kind of like, middle of the road,

Alex Ferrari 22:06
And that's back in the 80s, early 80s, right? 81 Yeah. So the this is, this is, this is one step away from witchcraft, essentially, meditation was one step away from witchcraft at that point,

Dianne Sherman 22:18
Exactly, well. And that was the thing with this dialog and feeling and all this stuff, who do I go to? I can't go to my priest. No, he'll think I'm a heretic. I can't go to my doctor. He'll maybe put me on meds, or 72 hour hold that I'm hearing things, you know? Who do I tell? I couldn't tell anybody. So I was led to this woman, to other people who kind of helped me understand I had had a process, and then little by little, I had moments synapses of that experience that informed me that, oh, and somebody that I was working we said, you had a near death experience. And I said, What? Because who talked about near death experience? I think Raymond Moody's book had been out a year. We didn't have internet. There was no way to get information the way we have it. I was, I was guided and nurtured through the process, and it's been a long one, but I wouldn't have missed it for the world.

Alex Ferrari 23:24
So at what point? So at what point did, when you started to hone these skills in secret and all of that, when did you finally decide to come out of this closet, this spiritual closet that you've been hiding in tell everybody to wait. I always like to joke like you waved your freak flag up nice and loud, you know, up about to everybody, Hey, I'm a freak. And you start telling your friends, your family, colleagues, maybe your priest, things like that at that time. How, when did you decide to do that, and how did everyone deal with it, because this does clear a room, especially in the 80s.

Dianne Sherman 24:05
Yeah, I didn't for years,

Alex Ferrari 24:08
How many years?

Dianne Sherman 24:09
Almost 30.

Alex Ferrari 24:11
So you really, so you you were closeted all that time. Oh, yeah, essentially, very closeted. Let me ask you, why did you think? Why did you do that? Just out of curiosity, like, because I know a lot. I've talked to a lot of near death experiences, even psychics and channels who hold and keep their their ability secret for for fear of what will happen, losing friends, so on and so forth. But that is a terrible that stress, that kind of monkey on your back. To live life like that must be extremely difficult. So I'm curious what caused you to carry that weight, because I can't imagine that showing you know who you truly are to people. It, you know, it must have been very repressive.

Dianne Sherman 24:54
It was very repressive. I went to hear somebody invited. To go hear this gentleman speak. It was an ions meeting, International Association near death studies meeting, first one I'd been to, and he was telling his story, and it just went off inside of me. Hello. You need to be talking about this. You need to be sharing this, really. That was, that was 15 years ago.

Alex Ferrari 25:20
It's even 15 years ago, was still a little bit out there, not as much as, I mean, not as accepted as it is today. So when you finally did start telling your story, what happened? What happened to your family, what happened to your friends, how did they deal with it? And how did you deal with them? Because there's a psychological processing here. Yeah, you have to deal.

Dianne Sherman 25:40
I have family members who still don't believe as I said, my parents were gone at that point. My sister thought I was crazy. She had no understanding. My ex husband thought I was crazy, you know, even though I could channel information for him that made a difference in his world and his work and the way we and the way we bought our house, yeah, oh, yeah. You know, for some people, it's only as good as it does for them, and that's what I've learned, is that this is a gift that I cherish and I use my with people I care about and people who come to be and people who understand it's, it's not for the whole world. I mean, I'm much more open about it now, because, you know, obviously I'm almost, I'm almost 78 so you know, what am I holding on to? You know, nothing but it. You know it. I guess it depends on your background. You know I was, I'm an introvert. I'm not an extrovert. And to share myself on that level was I only did it with people who were of like mind. You know, I only hung out with people who were in that realm, which is a very small focus,

Alex Ferrari 26:53
Right! And I assume that some of your friends and even families started to distance themselves as this new crop of people who are at same frequency, if you will, right on that you started to attract these kind of people into your life. Something very similar has happened to me, because I didn't have a near death experience. But just by talking to you, you weirdos, this is what's happening to me as well.

Dianne Sherman 27:21
It's called sympathetic resonance.

Alex Ferrari 27:23
Yes, absolutely, absolutely. So, you know, but I found that to even in my own life, that, you know, others just kind of fade away in the background, but this new mass, you know, beautiful crop of people have come into my life that are just like, wow, this is, this is amazing, where they're just kind of meeting me where I'm at. So I'm assuming that's kind of what happened to you,

Dianne Sherman 27:42
Exactly. And being able to communicate people, with people on a certain level, connect with them on a certain level. For me, is everything, and that's what informed me after this experience, was I can't play in those other realms. They don't serve me, and I can't serve them, you know, take me to a cocktail party, and I am just out of my element, you know, really well.

Alex Ferrari 28:07
But let me ask you this though. I mean coming from where you came from as a model? I mean, you know, I of course, worked in Hollywood as well, so I understand, I did a lot of fashion work early in my days, as well behind the scenes. So I kind of understand where your world was like as a model. I've met very a lot of introverted models. I completely understand that in my early career. But generally, you have to be able to be somewhat of an extrovert to be a model. So you were able to turn it on and off, essentially, when you were you doing that work.

Dianne Sherman 28:37
Well, yes, to the extent that I was, because of how I was raised with my parents. I was in the society pages as a kid growing up, you know, Easter outfits, Christmas outfits, all that kind of stuff, because of my parents. So I was used to doing the photography kind of thing. It wasn't that I loved it or that I was fabulous at it. I just could do it. Did it scare the pants off of me most of the time. Yes, so it wasn't a norm for me. It was just something I had kind of grown up into.

Alex Ferrari 29:10
So let me ask you. I'm going to ask you a deep question here, because I'm kind of, I'm really curious. Your early part of your your life was really focused on the physical. At least your career was, it's very focused on the physical. It was selling products. It was, you know, merchandising, marketing, those, I'm assuming these are the kind of photos you were taking as a model. So it was really focused in, kind of in the materialistic world. Not saying that you were, I'm just saying that was the world that you were in, and then now you are on the other side of the world, on the spectrum, which is completely spiritual. Was there a point where you believe because you already kind of running that, that that train was running out of gas, essentially, when your death experience, yeah, it's not like you were going to keep doing this. Um, so I don't think it was the cause. Of you shifting, but what do you think in your soul's journey that you needed to learn from both of these extremes? Because they are extremes, to say the least.

Dianne Sherman 30:11
Well, I think to own myself, to learn to love myself, to have a sense of belonging that was bigger than in the moment of what I was doing to have a bigger picture of the universe and my part in it, and that we all have, you know, a piece of the matrix. And we were all bringing our stuff, our good stuff, what was mine to plug it? What was my addition to the world? Why was I here? And it was all heart based stuff, and I had lived the life of all facade and head and non feeling, his feeling was not safe growing up so non feeling. And I had to learn to boy, did I have to be okay with feeling. Oh yeah,

Alex Ferrari 31:01
That was a lesson that you needed to learn, because they just like, Okay, we're going to give her all the feeling now!

Dianne Sherman 31:08
Make it or break it.

Alex Ferrari 31:12
So with these, with these abilities that you've been able to bring back, let's go down a little bit of the clear sight idea that you're talking about. Please explain to everybody what those three words that you said earlier mean.

Dianne Sherman 31:27
They're just different ways of perceiving. You know, visually, auditory, a knowing, a future knowing, tapping into the the information you know that somebody needs, or you need to share with somebody. That's what those three are about. And the clear site sort of hones in my version of that, which is being able to see beyond the facade. Because, you know, I grew up in in Beverly Hills, which is pretty much of a facade place.

Alex Ferrari 31:58
No let's stop it.

Dianne Sherman 32:03
And my husband was a high exec with Disney and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So you know, it's all for sure,

Alex Ferrari 32:10
You weren't there.

Dianne Sherman 32:11
Yeah. So this was me being able to see the essence of somebody, the preciousness of somebody, and be able to mirror that back to them, because most people have lost sight of that or never have connected to that, and that's what clearside is. I clearly see who you are, how you are. I can feel all of you. I can feel your heart. I can feel the resonance within you. And that's what clearside gives me and it allows me to be present with people in a very special way.

Alex Ferrari 32:46
When you were those 30 years that you kept this in the closet, were you doing, like, back room readings and things, that's what you were doing. Oh, yeah, all by word of mouth. Essentially, you couldn't market yourself at that point,

Dianne Sherman 33:01
Right! I still don't market myself, and I've got clients all over the world,

Alex Ferrari 33:06
And because they're just attracted to what you could just like that lady that you were attracted to to teach you what to do. People find you when they

Dianne Sherman 33:15
And they all say the same thing. I have videos on YouTube because of interviews and whatnot, and they all say the same thing, I heard your voice, or I listened to your story, or I felt you, and I just had to connect with you. And I'm I'm always so thrilled with how Spirit works with me. You know, life can be a really challenging experience. We all know that everybody you never get out of here unscathed. Yeah, but you know, it doesn't have to be the horrific ride, at least it hasn't been for me. Even in the horrific moments, there's always been a sense that there's something there, at least, that's how I feel about it. So I feel very protected in a lot of ways, even in the middle of the crap

Alex Ferrari 34:05
Dianne being a recovering Catholic myself. How did you, how did you kind of deal with your upbringing and your religious background and this new understanding of the universe, which I know, the dogma and a lot of the negative stuff. The Catholic religion has a lot of beautiful things. If you shift through all the stuff you know Jesus, no one ever leaves the church because of Jesus.

Dianne Sherman 34:33
No,

Alex Ferrari 34:34
They leave the church because of other stuff. But how did you kind of deal with that in your own world? Did? Was there a struggle, or was it just like, Oh, I'm good. I now, I know I understand. How did you deal with it?

Dianne Sherman 34:47
The first thing I did after my near death experience of any importance was walk away from the church because I knew it was alive. There's nothing but unconditional love on the other side. How can this. Doctrinization that they do to us all, fear based, be good, be right, be in alignment. So I absolutely walked away. And I was a pious kid, you know, I thought about becoming a nun at one point. And, you know, I love the ritual. I love I guess there was a spiritual connection for me from the get go. And you know that thing about when you're baptized, you get blind faith. I had it in spades. So, yeah, it was a big deal to walk away. And the last time I went to church, Catholic Church was about five, four or five years ago. I went to a midnight mass for Christmas, and I thought, I'll never do this again. It's still there. It's still there. It broke my heart.

Alex Ferrari 35:42
You know what's funny, when I was in Europe, I walked into para 1000 churches because I was just sat just, I mean, the stunning, yeah, it's stunning. But the last time I actually went to a service, oh God, must have been 2020, to 2525 years ago, at least, that I walked in, and it was because a friend of mine was getting married and just being in the church, and they were doing the ritual, the, you know, the kneeling, the standing, the kneeling, that kind of stuff. And as it was a mass and and a a wedding,

Dianne Sherman 36:17
Which is a long ceremony, yeah,

Alex Ferrari 36:19
Oh God, jeez,

Dianne Sherman 36:20
It was, at least it wasn't high mass, hopefully,

Alex Ferrari 36:23
It was like two it wasn't in Latin, thank God. But it wasn't too it was,

Dianne Sherman 36:27
I like Latin.

Alex Ferrari 36:28
It was, I know, but at least, you know, you could follow along. But the thing was that when I was there, I was just like this, this, and that was, this is years before, I mean, decades before, Next Level soul. You know, long time before I really was going down a more deeply spiritual path, and something inside of me was like, this is I'll never do. I can't be in this, in this situation again. For me, it just didn't make sense for me. I agree with you, the the pageantry of it, the the ceremony of it. It is a great way to connect to a higher a higher source, a higher being, a higher thing. It is wonderful for that. If it just wasn't with a lot of the fear based dogma, it's what I it's in. And I think the, I think the church is slowly opening themselves up to a lot of ideas and things that you and I, I know, I listen. I'm trying to be I'm trying to be politically correct here. The Pope did say, hell is kind of not an actual place. It's more of an idea. And all the Catholics lost their mind when the Pope said something like that. So they are minuscule, inches, centimeters, trying to move when they should really be making leaps and bounds. But they are. It's there, you know. And I think all major religions have to deal with this.

Dianne Sherman 37:48
I think so too. I grew up with no fish, no meat on Fridays, you know, until they decided, well, half the country can have it that way, and the other half doesn't need to. And so they kind of level the playing field on that, I guess.

Alex Ferrari 38:04
I mean, listen, when I was like, so if you kill somebody, you go to hell, and if you eat meat on Friday, you go to hell. This doesn't mean,

Dianne Sherman 38:11
Well, one's a mortal sin, one's a venial.

Alex Ferrari 38:15
But I was like, I was like, what 10? So I didn't know the difference. So I just like, that still doesn't make a lot of sense.

Dianne Sherman 38:24
I have, I have to tell you, I had a wonderful experience many years ago in the Catholic Church. The church I grew up with was Beverly Hills Good Shepherd. There was a charismatic priest that was brought in for a underground service and through word of mouth, and so dear friend and I went. She wasn't even Catholic, and we knelt at the altar, and when he touched us, man, we both went over backwards, and people caught us. It was fabulous. I wish they did more.

Alex Ferrari 38:56
I mean, it's a show, it's a show, it's nice, it's fun, it's it's just a way of community. Community. People really do want community. People really want, of course, together.

Dianne Sherman 39:04
They want to feel that somebody's guiding them to a better place within themselves, and that has to be done with love, not with fear, not with lies.

Alex Ferrari 39:14
Then I could not agree with you more now, with all this stuff that's happened to you, do you have a fear of death anymore?

Dianne Sherman 39:21
No, no. As a matter of fact, I tell my I have a new doctor. And I said to him, I want to tell you a friend, I don't want to live forever. That's not why I'm here. I want to be comfortable in my skin as long as I'm upright. The rest of it, we're not doing because, listen, he he was thrilled. He's a young guy, and he was thrilled. And he said, I wish more people could be that open and blunt. I don't know how else to say it. You know, I've been waiting to go home since 81 it's a long time.

Alex Ferrari 39:57
So then let me ask you the next question, which I love asking. People who've gone to the other side and come back. How do you deal with this everyday, kind of like heavy, difficult walking of the journey, when you will know what's on the other side? How do you kind of balance those two things?

Dianne Sherman 40:18
Well, I had a conversation with myself that if I was going to be here, that I had to make the best of this. I had to create heaven on earth for myself. Otherwise I couldn't stay, and I had to be able to touch back into the feeling I had when I was on the other side through meditation. And as long as I could do those things, I could stay. So I worked that out. The next step of it for me was, how do I want to view it? Because before my near death experience, life was happening to me. I was the consummate victim. I had no awareness of my part in it, not because I didn't want to or wasn't capable. I just didn't get it. I realized that I had a choice, you know, as Catholic kids, we were taught that we were created in the image and likeness of God. Well, having a near death experience, I understand that I'm an extension of the God force. I'm not in any image, and like this, I'm an extension of that power I can create. So in wanting to create, what do I want to create for myself? I want to create joy, fun, wonderful moments, memories, good stuff. I'm looking for the magic. As a little kid, I believed in the magic. It's what saved my butt. But as an adult, I lost that, and I had to get back to that, because there is this is a magical universe, and in knowing that I'm always looking for the magic, it's like that parking karma thing. I not only always get the parking space, Alex, it's the one right near the door of where I'm and I'm in such gratitude for them guiding me, moving me, showing me all the time what I need to do that it makes it easier. Doesn't mean I don't have stuff that comes up that isn't painful or hard, it does. But I also know I'm not doing it alone. I know I'm supported, and I lean into that heavily. Ever since my near death experience, I lean into that, and I tried to let people know that it's a choice. It literally is a choice. Do we want to line up with it or not?

Alex Ferrari 42:30
Fair enough, Fair enough. Now, Dianne, you've mentioned that you're able to not only see the true essence of people, but you're also able to see possibly future events. Is there anything that you've seen? Is it only a personal thing, or do you see broader future events now, like of humanity's consciousness shift, or things like that?

Dianne Sherman 42:51
It's more with people. I can feel when something's coming, you know, I can feel when there are earthquakes on the other side of the world and that kind of nonsense. I can't, I don't get it's coming Tuesday at four, you know, I don't get anything like that. For me, it's all a knowing inside of myself, of stuff. You know, somebody asks me something, I can help with information to a certain degree. You know, there are limitations to all of that, and certain questions not to ask, or to ask in a different way, or whatever. So that's sort of a roundabout way of saying, I get some of the information some of the time,

Alex Ferrari 43:35
Not all of that, not all the information all the time.

Dianne Sherman 43:38
Nor, nor do I want it. That's too much responsibility. I didn't sign up for that. I don't need to be a big player in the world. That's not why I'm here. I'm here to do my deal and do it well, make shifts and changes and love the interactions that I'm having. I live for the interactions. I literally live for those. If I couldn't see people, have clients and work with them, I wouldn't want to be here, because they're on a different level than the everyday,

Alex Ferrari 44:11
Which makes sense now. Then do you have any messages for people who might be watching who have lost somebody, is about to lose someone, or they themselves are trans. You know, on the road to transitioning up. I know that they're they're leaving soon, and they might be afraid of what's going to happen. What's happening to my my my parents, my friends, my dog. You know what is happening. It's scary. It's scary. So what advice? Yeah, it can't Yeah for a lot of people, what what advice do you have? What words of comfort do you have for them?

Dianne Sherman 44:48
Well, I think the most important thing that I I want people to know is that you are totally loved and supported, whether you feel it, know it or not, you are. There's no expect. Tation on you. There's no judgment on you. The universe doesn't judge us in any way, shape or form, even when you have, you know, at at at the death point, when you go across and you have the experience of judging yourself, because that's all it is. It's you judging you and whatever you did, whatever you said, how it feels to the people you said it to. You get that feeling and you get that judgment. But outside of that, there is nobody waiting to judge how you've been or what you've done. They're only there to love and receive you and bring you back to the best parts of yourself, and it's so nurturing and so loving. One of the things I do is help people who have company, who have not crossed over. And so I walk people to the light a lot, and they're so loving. On the other side, you know, there's there's hospital and education for us on the other side, in case you're not in your right mind when you cross over, there's that kind of help to bring you back to you know your essence, who you are, as a soul, and to remember the brilliance of you. And so I tell them, there's nothing to be afraid of. There's absolutely nothing going to go on, that's scary, that's demeaning, that's hurtful, that's there's nothing but love and joy on the other side. I would go skipping. It's that amazing, and I don't want people to be fearful of something that's so beautiful. I think we should be celebrating death just like we celebrate birth. It's the same, it's on the same part. It's it's going to the next level of your beingness. How can that be detrimental in any way? How can that be scary? It's not. It's an culture.

Alex Ferrari 47:01
It almost sounds like you're achieving a next level soul. Sorry, I couldn't help it. You just loved it up there for me, I had, I had to, I had to do it. I'm sorry. No day I'm gonna ask you a few questions. Ask all my guests, what is your definition of living a fulfilled life, loving. If you had a chance to go back in time and speak to little Dianne, what advice would you give her?

Dianne Sherman 47:28
Trust yourself.

Alex Ferrari 47:32
Very true. How do you define God or Source?

Dianne Sherman 47:35
All love, all love.

Alex Ferrari 47:38
What is love?

Dianne Sherman 47:41
The most divine feeling you could ever imagine. It's it's connection, it's satisfaction, it's comfort, it's preciousness.

Alex Ferrari 47:52
And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

Dianne Sherman 47:56
To love and be loved.

Alex Ferrari 47:58
And where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing?

Dianne Sherman 48:03
My website is guidingyourspirit.com.

Alex Ferrari 48:09
My website says it all

Dianne Sherman 48:11
It does, and my email is Diane, Dianne@guidingyour spirit.com,

Alex Ferrari 48:18
All right, I was about to warn you, be careful what you wish for putting your email out like that, but okay, that's up to you. If you want to do it, I'll let you do it. And do you have any parting messages for the audience?

Dianne Sherman 48:29
Take the time to appreciate your own preciousness. Honor yourself. Have fun with yourself every day congratulate yourself for showing up.

Alex Ferrari 48:40
That's that, and that's a beautiful way to end it. Thank you, Dianne, so much for coming on the show and sharing your story with us.

Dianne Sherman 48:45
Thank you for having me, Alex.

Alex Ferrari 48:47
It's been such a pleasure and honor speaking to you, and I appreciate you and everything you're doing to awaken souls around this world. So thank you.

Dianne Sherman 48:53
Thank you. You as well with your beautiful work. Thank you.