Spirit’s Hopeful Message to Humanity with Cheryl Murphy

Alex Ferrari 0:00
I know these personalities that we've built are going to be part of the soul experience. There's no question

Cheryl Murphy 0:06
Loved ones do come in to apologize, but more so they're coming in to love you and to support you. Jesus came to me and said, You've told me how much you love me. Let me show you how much I love you. My eyes tear. I just want to tell you, because sometimes when you're in a high vibration like your space, you know it does bring it does make me kind of weep, because it's so beautiful here, so just but if we had problems here on Earth, they're not all solved at one in one breath. They can't hold the new light that's happening.

Alex Ferrari 0:54
Now, before we jump into this episode, if this conversation resonates with you, please like subscribe and share this with whoever you feel that needs to hear it. Your support helps us keep bringing this information out into the world and helps us awaken this planet. Thank you. I like to welcome to the show Cheryl Murphy, how you doing Cheryl?

Cheryl Murphy 1:17
I'm doing terrific. Thank you for having me so much Alex.

Alex Ferrari 1:20
Oh, thank you so much for being here. I appreciate you taking the trek out here to Next Level Soul Studios and and feeling the energy in the room.

Cheryl Murphy 1:28
You know, the energy as soon as I walked in. It's like, sacred. It, I have to say, it's, it's holy. It's like, I feel blessed. That's how it feels.

Alex Ferrari 1:36
Well, I appreciate that. I take no credit for that. I I give the credit to all of the masters that have walked in this room and are in this room all the time. You could tell me better than other others if they're standing around me, but

Cheryl Murphy 1:49
I will, I will, well, there's no coincidences. I'll tell you that the reason why you're attracted to certain people, just like Yogananda, you know, there is a connection, a soul connection. There a true soul connection with you and him.

Alex Ferrari 2:02
Oh yeah. I mean, he's literally behind me constantly, in every frame, everywhere. He's always around me. And Yoda is too. So apparently I have a spiritual connection to Yoda. He's a good guy. He's a good he's a very good guy. So, so you're a psychic medium. I am your second medium. How did you first discover this ability?

Cheryl Murphy 2:25
You know, it runs in my family. You know, if we can share that, because the women in my family, my grandmother, my great, great grandmother, who was Cherokee, Indian, yeah, they all gathered around when every time we have a family meeting, like a holiday, for example, Christmas and what have you, the women would gather and have a seance, or they'd have these spiritual conversations. Hey, how old are you? I was very young. I really wasn't included at that time, but I would hear, I saw, I would hear them, and afterwards they'd come out and sit, and you could really feel a shift happening. You could hear them talking, and you could hear a lot of nonverbal communication too. So I mean, I felt lighter and freer, and I felt more intuitive just being around them. I learned later on in my adult life that my great aunt was hired by the Air Force by the government to find a missing pilot and plane that they were not able to find. And you don't hear about those stories, right? So I didn't hear about it till my adult life. I asked my great aunt, and you know, she told them, she'll be happy to find them, but they they would not mention her name and any findings or how they found the pilot or plane. But things like that, stories like that. I grew up with.

Alex Ferrari 3:43
Wow! So at what point did you realize you had, yeah, because it does skip generation sometimes.

Cheryl Murphy 3:49
It does, and sometimes maybe more female or male even. So growing up, I first started seeing spirit at the age of three years old, right around that time. So you're literally seeing dead people walking around. I'm I saw I saw them as light, or I saw them as a ball of light, and I felt this ball of light represented a family. So it was like a soul family coming to see me. So I'm very young. It's in the evening, and this beautiful light comes in the room, and it's like they're checking on me, making sure that I'm okay, excited for me to have this life here, and they're literally moving things around in my room, right? They move a toy around or a calendar around. You know what? Everything was joyful. Everything was joyful. And this happened several times growing up. And you know, when you're very young, to tell anyone, they just think, right? You know, you're just a kid. It's your imagination.

Alex Ferrari 4:41
Your family knew about this stuff, though,

Cheryl Murphy 4:42
But it was okay, though. I mean, for them, it wasn't any big deal. It was, oh yeah, you know, it was part of the household, right? In our family, we were used to psychic events happening. My mom, for example, would walk in the kitchen and silverware would bend. Bend, or knives would bend, and so it is a little out there. But, you know, it was something to be aware of that when I stepped out of the house to go to school, for example, you know, as a child, no one else was talking about it, so it didn't feel like it was interesting to anyone. So I didn't mention it. But growing up, getting into my teenage years, more kids were interested, and I was happy to share my ideas, my thoughts, go into meditation with them, you know, maybe go into a little bit of a seance with them. My brother and I, who are very close in age, he's really into this too. So I knew growing up, I had a support system. So it's it's wonderful. My brother and I really grew up believing about, once again, the afterlife. We read books on it. This was a conversation we loved having. My mom had all those Edgar Casey books growing up, a bunch of them in the studio. Yeah, Edgar Casey, and there wasn't too much material out there, you know, to learn about.

Alex Ferrari 5:58
Yeah, there's a handful,

Cheryl Murphy 6:00
Just a few, but growing up with Edgar Cayce and understanding about how we're also healers, right? So not only is our intuition about connecting with the afterlife, but also like healing ourselves, healing our own aches and pains or our own troubles even manifesting, which was really important. So yeah, it's pretty interesting growing up with my brothers and sisters, because that to this day, my other brother and sister, they won't acknowledge that they're psychic or they're intuitive, but they are, I know they are.

Alex Ferrari 6:33
Yeah, that's a fear. If there's a lot of fear involved with this, especially in the world we live in, it takes a brave soul to kind of come out and say, Hey, I'm gonna wave my freak for like,

Cheryl Murphy 6:45
Feeling that you've had past lives where you've either been ridiculed or, once again, you know,

Alex Ferrari 6:50
Burned to the stake. There we are. Yeah, of course, yeah, hung, drowned, all that kind of great, lovely stuff of yesteryear.

Cheryl Murphy 6:58
We've kind of been hidden in the past. So it is a big deal,

Alex Ferrari 7:01
And that could be a reason why people sometimes ignore or just suppress this stuff, because on a soul level, they're like last time I spoke up, I got I got hung, I got burned, I got drowned, I got

Cheryl Murphy 7:14
It's true, and that's why it's so important to be a support nowadays. It's so important to help people understand their intuition. I think people kind of buried it, you know, they don't want to know because it's fear based in some way, but it's like, no, your intuition is very powerful and and also being empathic, it's very powerful. A lot of people would would shy away from that growing up. So one of my goals as a medium, a psychic and intuitive is to help people understand their abilities and really help them kind of feel it within themselves. Not just always hear me helping them, but help let me teach them also how powerful they are.

Alex Ferrari 7:53
You mentioned seance, yeah, a couple times. I've never spoken about seances on this show. Yeah, I'm fascinated. I mean, we've all seen the Hollywood version, yeah. You know, the table starts shaking, and we're all like the power of Christ compels you, kind of stuff. But from a practical standpoint, what is the difference between us? Is a seance just a bunch of mediums getting together to pull in a spirit, or is it just a wider door to let more in, or it's a direct communication, like, I need Robin Williams's spirit to come in the room. And couldn't you do that by yourself? Or do you what's the power of the seance? Can you explain it to me?

Cheryl Murphy 8:32
Yeah, you know, the power of the seance is really to help the spirit world, not that they need our help, but perhaps they could feel, you know, they could feel the energy in a home. So let me share a story with you. I walked into a bed and breakfast, me and several other mediums. We were asked to help clear a house, for example, because the owner, which this building now was a bed and breakfast had been in the past, many other things. You know, buildings were multifunctional back then, right? It was a hospital. It was a horse stable. At one time, it was a doctor's office. So it held a lot of energy. And her having this bed and breakfast, she wasn't able to either keep clients coming in, or they didn't want to stay in one of the rooms, right? Because it was haunted, so to speak.

Alex Ferrari 9:17
Where was this?

Cheryl Murphy 9:19
This is in the South,

Alex Ferrari 9:20
In the south, so more than likely I'm gonna, I'm gonna go on a limb here, if it's in the south, it was either Civil War hospital of some sort, that a lot of death happened. I've heard this story before, and it was that what I was,

Cheryl Murphy 9:34
Yes, a lot of coal miners. We were attracting specifically, also, and because it was a doctor's office who had, you know, done abortions. We were attracting a lot of that type of energy in in this multi functional what years was? I know this was early 1900s but even back in the 1900s This is back before any, yeah, it was,

Alex Ferrari 9:59
It was more barbaric.

Cheryl Murphy 10:00
Very much so. And so when there was even crime committed in this house, is what we picked up on someone his life had been murdered, for example. So once again, you can see all this residual energy in this place. So the seance getting to the seance was a group of myself and other mediums, as you mentioned, to help clear this building, not that the souls are being stuck, but to clear and lift the light of the energy. So as a seance, what we do is we definitely sit in meditation, prayer, lift our own vibration, always asking for the highest light to come, always asking for healing to happen. And not only do we attract people who had resided in that building. But even that property area, the land, the hundreds of miles away, we were once again attracting because it's a beacon. Almost exactly it was like a lighthouse, spiritual beacon. Lighthouse. Yeah, we found out the portal was an addict, an addict latch and for example, this is where the light that's where the light they went into, the light. So we what we do is we ask them if they would like help, if they would like healing. How can we clear this house to help the current owner? Because that is the goal, is to help bring that home peace, bring a blessing to that home and that property. So once again, we find an outlet, which was the in the attic. It was a latch happening. As soon as we said that, the latch dropped to the floor. It was like a deadbolt lock. It dropped to the floor, and then we felt this rush of energy going from the ground up. It's fascinating, and I have to tell you, it's in some way, because we've checked back with this owner afterwards several weeks, no problems, and meaning that the house is clean or it's blessed. It feels calm. It's not there's not energy moving around. That's not welcome,

Alex Ferrari 11:54
Is it? From what I understand when energy this is my understanding of it. Please tell me what you think. Are you, from your point of view, is when energy, when something happens that's traumatic in a space. So murder, you know, a death of some sort, but specific murder is traumatic, right, right? That energy kind of gets caught in the space. And from what I was I was talking to another medium the other day, they said that they walked into one of these houses in the south and they're like, Girl at one o'clock, stuff's gonna happen. And he was like, ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. And he and she was like, walking around in a one o'clock it turned into a civil war triage. There was blood everywhere. There's nurses walking around all this stuff, and they were just doing their thing. It was kind of like they were stuck in a loop.

Cheryl Murphy 12:46
That's what happens, is we're like on different planes of vibration, right? And I just got stuck there. It's so true. And you can even, you know, other places I've worked in, you can even hear them talking in these other planes. You can hear instruments being moved around, or, as you mentioned, the guns or the battle going on. So it's really excellent that it's very multi dimensional, right? And it's not a grounded energy. So it does become uncomfortable, or to be around, it can be uncomfortable. Or people, that's what humans feel, yes. And if they're very sensitive, it can, you know, it can really interrupt, interrupt your flow. It can be something that you need help clearing. It needs

Alex Ferrari 13:26
So when you say clearing, what is that? So you're basically just taking a broom and clear them out. Like, how? What does that mean? Exactly? It's like lifting the light up.

Cheryl Murphy 13:36
It's lifting the light. But it is kind of a blessing that's happening. It's really a miracle in some way, that we invite the Spirit into the room, and we invite them into the room to ask them how we can help them. It's not like we're telling them what to do or commanding them in any way. We're inviting them. We're inviting them to maybe gather their own energy and clear into the light. And when we invite them into the presence. We try to ask them, How can we help you? What more can we do for you? And therefore, as you mentioned, it's like a lighthouse. And more and more spirits come in, and you start feeling they were looking for that sense of belonging, of connection. It is that residual energy. It's it is kind of like a sweeping happening, but it's more of a blessing. It's more of a lifting, and it's more of a gathering, yeah, gathering into the light.

Alex Ferrari 14:25
So it's then, do you like when? Like, let's say that that example I gave you of, you know, nurses and Civil War guys, people always ask me, like, is that their soul, like, stuck there and my understanding is it's echoes of this incarnation, meaning there's there the oversoul is in 1000 other lifetimes right now, enjoying their thing. This is an echo. I use the word echo.

Cheryl Murphy 14:53
Yeah, you use the word echo. I'll just use an aspect, okay, we could say a part of the soul, but an aspect. Or they echo. But yes, they're full their soul, as you mentioned, that overlay, their soul is complete. They have crossed over. This is a, I also call it a residual, you know, it's, it's a part of what's left of the synergy that remains.

Alex Ferrari 15:14
And that's what a quote, unquote, haunting is.

Cheryl Murphy 15:17
You know, it can be, you know, hauntings a lot of times are, you know exactly, spirits asking for help, or, once again, that aspect of them wanting help or wanting us to I don't want to say, deliver a message, but it has been that way. I have worked with spirits who have asked me to deliver messages, and then it was their time, and then they went to the light. So I have met people in my world where I have done readings for people, and I have felt the energy of the home they used to live in and deliver a message to them from the home. Yes. And then once that happens, then the home somehow just feels more whole, or feels more I don't want to say clean, but it does feel like there's more light and and a softness to it.

Alex Ferrari 16:01
You said, Portal. What do you mean by portal?

Cheryl Murphy 16:04
Yeah, a portal is an opening to those higher dimensions, those higher planes.

Alex Ferrari 16:09
And you said the latch was this. It just happened to be a latches,

Cheryl Murphy 16:15
And it catches you off guard, right? You don't know where this energy is. It's almost like an outlet. You don't know where it's in, but when you're in this energy of the seance, it comes to you. It comes to you that the spirits here are what's remaining, are asking for help. They're asking for a clearing. And you know that you can open up some portal and opening to a higher dimension. And it was a physical, yeah, it was a physical attic door, yeah,

Alex Ferrari 16:43
To actually go to, yeah, it was incredible. Higher level when you're doing a seance, I mean, as a medium, you're able to do everything by yourself, arguably, right? What's the power behind having two or three or even more? And is it all have to be mediums, or it could just be other souls? You know, like in the movies, you have the one medium, and there's the family is all there trying to bring uncle Bob in, like, where's the insurance policy? We can't find it, kind of thing.

Cheryl Murphy 17:09
That's a very good question. Well, in this seance, for example, we had the owner of the bed and breakfast with us, so it was nice to have someone representing that property with us. You know, I because that's why we're doing that's the whole purpose of it. But having other mediums, it just happened that we were all mediums in this one group. But it is nice to have a group of people because of the intention. It's powerful, you know? And that's what happens. It's, it's exponentially, much more powerful, even maybe more helpful, to make the energy transition

Alex Ferrari 17:42
As a psychic medium. I imagine that when you first started hearing messages and you hear them, I'm assuming, audibly or in the mind, or do you see, like, what? How do you actually,

Cheryl Murphy 17:53
Yeah, yeah, many ways, right? I hear mostly clear audiently, so you actually hear outside. Well, there is subjective and objective hearing. I hear a lot of it subjectively. Sometimes I hear it outside myself, which is objectively and then. But I also see using the clairvoyance, or, once again, clairsentience, a lot in the feeling. Sometimes I'll smell cigarette smoke, right? So that's like claro factory. Or, you know, you taste grandma's apple pie, I was gonna say pasta sauce. You know, sometimes you just know things. It just drops in that clear cognizance.

Alex Ferrari 18:27
So, so how do you know the difference? I mean, I'm sure you've kind of honed it at this point, but when you first started, how did you know the difference between imagination, your own self talk, your own brain, talking to you, and true divine communication.

Cheryl Murphy 18:41
I know it's really incredible. It's a question that is, I think, would help a lot of people to because I get asked that question a lot and and it's, it's a tough question to answer, because you have to trust what you're getting. So the difference for me is, sometimes it doesn't sound like my voice. You know, it does sound like it's a higher power or different tone, different tone, like a different like, if it's a male loved one coming through a departed loved one, they do sound different than than me, and they feel different. The energy is feels different. It's usually, I usually get spirit over my right shoulder. So that's and how I trust it is the difference between trusting your intuition and knowing it's your own imagination. It's also through practice, but it's also setting that intention. If I set the intention to connect with a loved one in spirit, I know that anything from that point forward is from the spirit world, and I get validations or confirmations from the people I'm working across from the sitter, the recipient of the information. They can validate that. So you could also call me an evidential medium, where I bring through, you know, validations and confirmation that that information is true

Alex Ferrari 19:58
That he used to walk into the cane. Then the cane had a horse head on it, right, like things like that. Then you there's just no way you would know

Cheryl Murphy 20:04
Exactly, and you can also know if it's validation, if it comes through repeatedly. Also, I could ask the spirit world to give me something else that the person, the client, can validate. And that would also be another level of validation. You know, for example, were you making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich last week that? And you would say, Yes, I can. And then it would be a confirmation from Spirit. They can confirm that.

Alex Ferrari 20:30
I mean, because it is a fine line between being a clairvoyant and crazy. I mean, I mean you could, you could, literally, because you could like, am I listening to my voice? And you can make things up in your own mind. And you could start rationalizing. I say that with all the love in the world,

Cheryl Murphy 20:48
I love the question, because a lot of people come to me and go, Oh my god, am I going crazy?

Alex Ferrari 20:53
Because most people it's I can imagine that. Look, if all of a sudden I'm like, wake up in the morning and all of a sudden grandma's there, I'll be like, okay, yeah. Now, obviously, I'd probably react a little differently. Now I have a lot more experience in this world. I'd be like, grandma, okay. Is this a new thing? All right, fantastic. But if I start hearing voices of people or things like that, I'd be like, like, yeah. Again, I would be a little bit different at this point. But five years ago, yeah, 10 years ago, I'd be like, different. I'd be like, what, what has happened? So it, it's, it seems like there's a lot more people opening up now than there used to be, and there's a lot more people trying to figure out what the hell's happening to them. And am I crazy, or am I clairvoyant, you know? And there's a fine. It's a fine.

Cheryl Murphy 21:37
It's a fine line. And I got to tell you, Look, you got to prepare to channel this high energy from loved ones. You got to ground yourself, you know, you got to know yourself. You got to know your own energy first before you connect. And it does feel like it not not connecting with loved ones feels like you're going crazy, but people who are going through a transformative time in their life that can feel crazy like, hey, the world's, you know, the grounds falling out from underneath my feet. Right, the floor is dropping out. I lost my job, my relationship. What's happening?

Alex Ferrari 22:11
Basically being a teenager all your life, basically the energy of a teenager all your life, because everything is dramatic. The world is coming to the end all the time.

Cheryl Murphy 22:24
I just say, Look, just hang on right. Hang on. Hold the light for yourself. Just kind of pray right. Hold this grounding light. Hold that grounding cord. But it is. It does feel like a little bit of craziness now and then, but really connecting with the loved ones, I got to say, you got to know when you step into intuition and connecting with loved ones, guides angels. It's a very high vibrational experience. It's loving, it's supportive, it's it's something otherworldly.

Alex Ferrari 22:53
Do you I know with channels, from what I understand, that they have to prepare their nervous system to handle the energy coming through, right? And it's a gradual, like, almost, you got to just kind of, you know, it's like weights. You can't lift the heavy weight right away. You need to kind of build up tolerance. Tolerance is the word was good example. You have to build up tolerance before you can't go in and bench 500 pounds. It's true. You got to start with 50 and go and start because if you try to lift 500 pounds, yeah, you will die. So similarly, like, you can't bring in the energy of Buddha exactly right off the view, off the bat, you will burn, you'll fry Exactly. So how is it for psychic mediums?

Cheryl Murphy 23:33
It's like a muscle. It's like a psychic muscle. It's like your bicep muscle. It is all about practice, grounding, centering, meditation, sitting in the power of many people call deeper meditation, but it is. It's a practice. It's a foundation, and it's something that you have to layer. You want to practice it and create like that muscle. You want to develop it and strengthen it. Because, for example, I could connect with your grandfather in spirit. But if I develop it through a daily practice or ritual or practicing self care, perhaps I can go deeper with information that's always the message is to bring through their need, like, what? What is the message they're trying to bring through and to be that good medium, or to be that good, you know custodian, where I can connect and give them the message. That's the beauty of it.

Alex Ferrari 24:26
And from my understanding, it's not as much that, and please correct me if I'm wrong. It's not as much that you're helping the other side. It's the other side trying to get a message that is going to help us, because they don't really, they're cool on the other side, they don't, they don't like, they're not sitting there like, Oh, I wish I would have told my wife this or my daughter that that's not they're cool on the other side, they want to send that message over to heal us while we're here. Does that make sense?

Cheryl Murphy 24:50
You know, it does. And they are there. We have to honor their need, right? The spirit's needs. So when a client comes to see me, they think I'm going to answer their question. Emotions, but it's like, Nah, I work for the spirit world. Like I'm going to be their voice. Whatever they want to say, ever they want to say, Yeah, is going to be but I do want to tell you an experience I had. I felt like I was I felt like when I was connecting with a woman just recently, her mom was really being helped from the other side. Her mom really came through and said, thank you for all the prayers you've been sending me. I know we didn't get along so much in the physical but thank you for honoring me and respecting me and still carrying on such high regard for me. It was if the mother who had passed had had an awakening in the spirit world like she was able to release a lot, she was able to evolve, right? It's all about evolving. So I was it's quite moving when we connect.

Alex Ferrari 25:45
Let me ask you this, when, when the soul passes over to the other side? Obviously, they are. They're wrapped in our kind of personality at the beginning, I think. And correct me if I'm wrong, you know, Alex and Cheryl. Okay, so when we cross over, hopefully not anytime soon. Like I always say, everybody wants to go to heaven, just not right now. So when we pass over, we're going to have our suit on, like our personality a bit. And then my kids, if I'm going to speak to I'm not going to speak to them as the Roman soldier I was five lifetimes ago. That's right. I'll speak to them from this point of view. But a lot of people are like, so is Alex or Cheryl just hanging out at a coffee bar because they have to throw a human thing on it on the other side. But wait a minute, if there's all these other souls, other experiences happening, so at what point do I lose Alex? You know, and I'm, I'm the witch that got burned at Salem, or I was a Roman soldier. I wasn't back in Egypt. All the other lifetimes I've been right, yeah, I was a never Cleopatra. I was on the cleaned up the poop behind the horses that carried Cleopatra. That's who I was.

Cheryl Murphy 26:56
Who is to say that you are gonna lose Alex,

Alex Ferrari 27:01
No, that's my point. Like, I'm just, that's my question. Like, our do our because I know these personalities that we've built are going to be part of the soul experience. There's no question. But at a certain point, let's say I'm in a lifetime, 200 years from now, yeah, Alex is not going to be there. Aspects of who I was as aspects of who I've been, right? Are in this I've been told that I've I've been burned many times, I've been in prison. Many times. I speak out a lot, apparently, I'm a troublemaker, apparently, and especially in the spiritual space, I've been a monk and a spiritualist, all this kind of stuff. So that's all, all this stuff makes sense to me, right? So I carried a lot of that stuff with me in this, into this life, and I'm sure I'll carry it, but, yeah, I don't have my personality from when I was imprisoned in Spain, you know. Well, tell me we're going deep into deep waters here, and we're going into deep water.

Cheryl Murphy 27:56
So you're so So Alex, you're a soul. And what happened is in this lifetime, is Alex, you have brought in other past lives with you into this lifetime. You brought past lives that you enjoyed, that you you know you had a family, perhaps in a past lifetime. So you wanted to recreate that in this lifetime, right? And there are aspects to our soul where our, I think, our consciousness, which this is all about our souls. Consciousness is so vast in the afterlife or in the other world, in the spirit world, that we can be Alex, the dad, but we can also still retain or have those memories of other past life. Souls to your children, you will always be dad when that time comes when you do cross over, and you'll always remain that way. At the same time, you will also have all that other information available to you. So for example, I always feel because I've had past lives in Egypt, right? We have all been there. You were cleaning up I think

Alex Ferrari 28:57
I was cleaning up behind Cleopatra. Yes. I mean, I don't want to. I'm always adjacent from the famous, you know, I wasn't with Julius Caesar. I was the guy behind

Cheryl Murphy 29:07
I always feel, I always feel, when I need information, I can reach over into that past life in Egypt. It's like reaching over into my spiritual library of, you know, the Akashic records, for example, and re and getting energy or information from that past life to help answer questions in this lifetime, or so we pull from those resources, if that helps. But you know, your soul is amazing. And you know, a lot of people think it's somewhere else just to, just to let people know, you know, the spirit world is here. We're here. We're spirit. Our loved ones are here. We're all in the same mix, so to speak. Maybe they're a thought away, or they're a vibration away. But it's not that we can't create that, or maintain it, or reach that we can raise our vibration so but just you know they are here. They are experiencing the world as we experience. Against them. And I think your loved ones who have passed, they're here watching you. They're helping, they're supporting. Do you feel them? Yeah, they're feel they're here.

Alex Ferrari 30:09
Well, let me ask you. So a lot of times I hear from mediums who like, they're coming on the show and they're like, oh my god, there's this dude that just keeps bothering me. He keeps coming in. But I hear that from mediums that, like, if they're going into a session the next day, the relatives start showing up, like, like, 12 hours earlier, sometimes a week earlier, right? They're like, Oh, I know you're gonna go talk to Beth. That's I need. I'm here, yeah? And you're like, dude, seven days, I know. Can you just chillax? Yeah?

Cheryl Murphy 30:39
Can you come back? You know, thanks for coming. It's so true. Thanks for coming. Come back when your loved ones here. And let's really, you know, connect. It does happen. I will pick up energies from a week prior to the event or or a week day before the reading. I'll start the morning of and we'll start picking them through. So what I do personally is I just acknowledge, hey, I understand that you're here. Thank you, and I'll be working at, you know that five o'clock that evening, like, Please come back. But it is, it is kind of a discipline, right?

Alex Ferrari 31:10
It's, it's kind of like that scene and ghost with Whoopi Goldberg and all the all the ghosts hanging around in the waiting room, and they line up, and they're lining up, and she's like, saying, what you make me do now, everybody's here. All these Is there a Ronaldo? Ronaldo? Is there Ronaldo in the house? And they're like, I'm here. I'm like, All right, he's here.

Cheryl Murphy 31:28
It's so true. Is it something like all the dads come through? For example, everyone knows my dad. Just to tell you, my dad, when he was alive, he did not believe in this, not that he was a skeptic, but he hadn't had the experiences. He's like Cheryl. I believe in you. I believe you've had the experiences, but I personally so after his passing, now with my other medium, friends or colleagues, what have you, it's Cheryl's Dad's here. You know, it's like he's trying to help everyone, like he gets so much thrill of supporting everyone. I know isn't that endearment. That's sweet, I know. So even loved ones that haven't had the experience or didn't believe in this, they're stepping into the energy of of mediumship.

Alex Ferrari 32:08
Did you when your dad first came in after he passed? Did you go I told you, and he's like, who knew?

Cheryl Murphy 32:17
No, no. But he laughed a lot about it. He said, this is pretty interesting. This is pretty interesting. That's fascinating. Yeah, yeah.

Alex Ferrari 32:24
So just out of curiosity, I'm not gonna ask for it, but did anyone come knocking on the door because they knew you were coming?

Cheryl Murphy 32:30
Absolutely, of course. You know, Yogananda was the first out of the gap. I'm telling you, I know there's a strong soul connection with you and him. I feel like the two of you have walked before. And you know, there is something about trading information, meaning you either wrote together or used to write for him, or something about this being a colleague in some way, not always just a student of his, but being more than that, you know, an assistant or a right hand or a fellow, enlightened one. I also felt your grandmother and your grandfather always show up. I know your grandmother is that doting on you. That's kind of how I keep hearing about it, right? Yeah, that's grandma. She was your protector. Oh, a strong one,

Alex Ferrari 33:13
A very strong one. And she was also the psychic.

Cheryl Murphy 33:17
Was she?

Alex Ferrari 33:17
She was the said she had the gift. Ah, she had the gift, but she never, we never spoke about it. I didn't know until probably a year ago. My mom told me about this story. It's amazing, and she had the gift, and my aunt had the gift. And

Cheryl Murphy 33:31
It's affirming that what you're doing now, then that's what it does, right? It affirms how you got to where you are here.

Alex Ferrari 33:38
It's insane. I don't even know how I got where I got it doesn't even make any sense. I always tell people on paper, this makes no sense whatsoever. I'm not a psychic, I'm not a clairvoyant, I'm not a channel. And yet we do this show and it but the more I do the show, the more I understand, like, oh, so I needed to go this and that.

Cheryl Murphy 33:56
Go, well, you're following your heart. Now, what's happening, right? That this is all heart here. Yeah, this is all heart.

Alex Ferrari 34:02
Yeah. I love doing this. I love doing this, but I'm glad grandma and grandpa, yeah, they always there was jockey too. I find it was jockey, come for position, no for position. But grandma gets a lot of action. Get in, and then grandpa was, like, enough of that. I want some action now, and I want to talk to him. And, like, first of all, I don't like what you're doing with this, and it's like this, and you need to cover this up. I'm like, okay, okay, that's Grandpa,

Cheryl Murphy 34:26
You know, you got to hear him out. You got to hear him out. And and they have every right to to kind of work off each other, because it just feels like you have such a balance in your family, even, like, you know, very much respect in the male and the female side. So, you know, it makes sense that they both come through to help you.

Alex Ferrari 34:45
That's That's fascinating. So with all the stuff that's going on in the world right now, you know, I'm assuming you have some insight of what, why we're going through, what we're going through right now, and where we're going in. Next year. This has been a crazy year. Crazy. It's been a nutty. I mean, every year since 2020 exactly, it's been getting weirder and weirder and weirder and weirder. And it's like this year has been insane. And I have a feeling 2026 is not gonna, not gonna let up. But can you do you have any understanding of what's happening to us right now, why it's happening to us, and the next year, the next five years, or, you know, where's the light at the end of the question? Yes, it's always there.

Cheryl Murphy 35:31
And even even before 2020 for example, 2012 Yeah, you know exactly, exactly you're exactly right the end of the Mayan calendar,

Alex Ferrari 35:40
Yeah, 2012 is when it it started. 2012 2016 that was another big year. I remember. But 2012 it's wasn't what mines, I think what is just my understanding. The Mayans were not saying that the world was going to end. Is the old world that we lived in was going to go right, and now we're starting a new phase of humanity. And that's what that marker was, if I'm correct,

Cheryl Murphy 36:04
And a new consciousness is happening too. So, you know, there is a new consciousness. There's worldly information coming through. So how I'm feeling it is, there's a release happening. You know, there are things breaking down. You know, the financial market, the housing market, back in what, in 2018 oh, the hell. Health industry, good gracious, Hollywood.

Alex Ferrari 36:25
I mean all of its all of its cracking. You see it everywhere, churches, I mean the Vatican, all that

Cheryl Murphy 36:30
They can't hold the new light that's happening. And there is kind of an explosion happening, but it's more of like an explosion of light, but it's about releasing, you know, I it's not like, holding on, oh my god, we're going to be okay. It's like, no, wait a minute. You got to kind of trust your you know, this is why this work is so important, right now. You've got to kind of be grounded, trust that what's happening is shifting, and that there is a good thing coming. There's a good time happening. But a lot of things, the darkness is being pointed out, for example, the darkness is rising, but also there's light in the darkness, you know, and that's why things are shifting and opening. I think the young kids being born these days are also they're also paving the way. But I think the elders, in some way, are becoming even more I don't know. They're just so much more in tune. They're more aware, like people are more connected to their elders, perhaps right now, if that makes sense,

Alex Ferrari 37:25
It's to a certain extent. Yeah. I mean, culturally, it's a different thing here in the West, but like in Japan and in South America, and you know those kind of cultures, they're a little bit in other areas, of course, in the world too. Please don't leave comments that are that are that are really family oriented, and they're starting to look at their elders in a different way. The kids today are coming in wired.

Cheryl Murphy 37:47
They're they're coming in way knowing more than we are, and they're here to help balance or rebalance or so what's also happening with that release work is there's a unity happening. It's about, you know, you know, connecting with each individual, and not not only people, but connecting with Mother Earth as well. You know, we have to not only take care of her meaning, we have to ground ourself to her because she is part of this exchange happening or this awakening happening. So not only are you and I and everyone going through transformative times, but the earth countries are going through transformation. Animals are the animal world, the plant kingdom. Everything is being shown more light. And that's what's so interesting. Are the eyes that you and I have, right? We have our physical eyes, we have our spiritual eyes, but I do feel we're going to be seeing more light coming in, meaning that we're going to be seeing even new color, if that makes sense, it's not just the shades of the rainbow, for example, but there's more differentiation in how we're seeing and perceiving information coming through and the consciousness coming through, and the new world I feel, I almost feel like there's more than one Earth, right? Have you heard that before?

Alex Ferrari 39:04
There we are, the multiverse, multiverse timelines, of course. And that's the Mandela Effect shifting. You know, many of us. Okay, I have to ask you the question, yes, did Ed McMahon go and knock on people's doors and give people million dollar checks for the publisher's clearing I believe so. Okay, so you and I are in the same timeline. Never happened. Ah, never it. Never happened. He never worked for Publishers Clearing House. He never did any of that stuff. He never worked for any of those things. He worked for another company called American family or something like that, but he didn't do the check to the door, do the check. That's what they say. But yet, yeah, if you look up on YouTube, right, he did guest appearances on 80s sitcoms as himself coming to the door with a million dollar check and a camera. Okay, so what the hell is happening? So that's a perfect example. The Mandela Effect, that there's two different realities.

Cheryl Murphy 40:02
Well, there's more than two, oh, there's more. But that's, there's multi that's the, that's the point of view. You look we're getting. So what's happening is we're getting deep into consciousness work right now. We're getting to deep awareness with people right now. And if they need to have a sense of self, they need to have a sense of gratitude to stay grounded. I even feel in the future, anger is going to be shifted out like we're learning other values. We could say, in some way, we're learning more about the heart being our our guide. We're learning more about that you and I can be leaders, as you already are with this amazing podcast you have. You're welcome. It's such a privilege and to also honor that each one of us is our own master learning, right? Rather than having all of these sub classes or these we're also, once again, moving into the Unity feeling is how I'm working it away from dogma. It's becoming more of a it's like letting more of the higher vibration, step into our path and learning to lean on them. So we're leaning on more of a trusting, a trusting feeling we are, and learning to have faith. You know, it is walking into that mystery, right, living the unknown. That's where we are right now.

Alex Ferrari 41:15
I think that's why everyone says terrified, a lot of fear, because everything is, everything is changing so rapidly, AI is. It's taking and not taking over, but in the sense that it's becoming a major part of our lives, kind of like when the internet showed up,

Cheryl Murphy 41:28
Exactly, it even more so, much more so. And AI can be a full on inspiration. It can be a full on right? It can be a full on healer, like I feel AI moving into learning, you know, helping people with illnesses, right? Finding those answers.

Alex Ferrari 41:42
It could find a cure for a disease, or help people understand their body better, things like that. It's, you know, but a lot of people think of Terminator or the matrix. That's where it's all. It's a tool, yeah, anything, it's like anything else is, I use the example for people that people are like, everything's changing, everything's moving. I'm like Ferrari, you know, for generation, your generation of my generation, Sears, where is it? It's gone. Sears was around for over 100 years. The only thing out there, it was, it was, it was an institution, yeah, you know, you could argue blockbuster, but blockbuster was only around for a few decades, yeah, you know, 20 years, 30 years, something like that. But Sears, yeah, was around for it since the 1800s

Cheryl Murphy 42:25
They sold houses. Yeah, you could buy a house

Alex Ferrari 42:29
And they would ship it to you. They would they would just ship it to you. They would ship you a house and you just build it like insane stuff. But that's a that's a perfect example of an institution that it that just left. And there's so many of those, you know, you look at the Vatican, you know, different, little bit different than Sears, but you could see the cracks, yeah.

Cheryl Murphy 42:54
Well, the Vatican may be slower to change.

Alex Ferrari 42:57
Oh, they'll be the last to change. They'll be the last to change. They'll change, but they'll be the last to change.

Cheryl Murphy 43:06
And that, that too, is quite a movement happening, you know. So look, Sears. Let's go back to Sears. A lot of people now are afraid of their jobs. They're afraid of, I mean, they could lose their job tomorrow, because it's a real iffy universe happening. So the goal right now, what I'm seeing happening, once again, it's the release happening of holding on to what was or what is, for people, understanding that there's different sides of us, opening an awakening like we can do more than than just this nine to five feeling, for example, we can do more healing work. We can work with other realms. We can work with other dimensions. And perhaps that is that awakening happening, like the children have it these days that they're going to become our teachers. Oh yeah.

Alex Ferrari 43:53
Oh yeah, yeah. My kids are among annoying the hell out of me. They are teachers. There's no question.

Cheryl Murphy 44:00
It's yeah, and people are opening up to their empathic abilities, you know, they're opening up to their intuitive and that is very fearful for people. They're like, what's happening? I'm hearing, I'm seeing, I'm feeling, I feel the room. And, you know, and it's actually that superpower that I want to tell people about. Look, we have to ground your energy into Mother Earth. We have to put you in your body. A lot of people are out there. A lot of people are walking around the planet, you know, two or three inches above the planet, because they're all up in their mental energy. They're in their head space.

Alex Ferrari 44:30
They're calling the drama. Well, it's Plato's Allegory of the Cave. They just keep looking at the shadows on the wall.

Cheryl Murphy 44:35
It's so true, right? That's all they're doing. And then that's being manifested, right? That's what's happening. And we have to really understand that mindfulness, patience, right? Each day is new, each moment.

Alex Ferrari 44:48
Yeah, you've been in this space for a long time, and you've seen a change in the last 20 years, last 30 years. I mean, it's very different than it was before. Sure, what do you feel about this whole, this industry, this this space, this niche of spirituality? Because there's a lot of amazing people in it, right, who are doing good work, yeah, and then, of course, there's the other others who are doing it for egotistical reasons, for just purely for money. You're not really trying to shine light in the world, not trying to really lift it. Maybe fear basing, you know, doing fear based stuff, as opposed to love and light. What's your take on all of that from, from your point of seeing it change?

Cheryl Murphy 45:27
I have, well, I'll go back to, you know, with me going to school like I didn't, this conversation wouldn't have happened in in my school yard, for example. So that's how it was growing up. And there weren't many places to study this. And for me, personally, I wanted to work with like minded people, like, I'm looking for my tribe growing up, going where, where are you? That was not in the world as they are today. It's much more mainstream. But at the same time, I want to tell you I feel for me personally, it's my vocation, like, it's a calling. I don't know if everyone has that same goal in them, and so if it's for the highest reason, I really think there's a lot of integrity with Mediums today. There's still the other side, you know, you have to watch out for frauds. You have to watch out for people at carnivals. At carnivals, you know, the

Alex Ferrari 46:20
Nothings wrong with psychic carnivals, but generally speaking,

Cheryl Murphy 46:24
Or you know, you have to, you have to take everything with a grain of salt.

Alex Ferrari 46:26
There's a crystal ball you should run. You need to take pause. You need to take pause and see I'm not,

Cheryl Murphy 46:34
And that's where intuition comes in, and that's where referral comes in. But there's still an amazing presence of mediums lifting this light. And I like to put myself in there about, you know, working with people who have high integrity, and not only mediums, but, you know, healers. Oh, my God, so many amazing healers and light workers, you know, channelers, as you've mentioned, there is this force or this movement raising this planet. So it is about kind of going through the weeds and weeding them out, but once you kind of discover and programs like yours are out there absolutely to lift that vibration of the planet with integrity and mindfulness and compassion and understanding. So I think if you reach for those, or if you're going for that, you're more likely to find someone or find a group. That's why I started my healing prayer circle. Was to create a community of like minded people, because I didn't have that growing up. So I wanted to give other people that offering of, hey, look, you can come here. We can talk about this, right? We can pray or meditate together, and that's really such an amazing energy now that's being created.

Alex Ferrari 47:47
Yeah, that stuff didn't really exist at all.

Cheryl Murphy 47:51
Much more mainstream. And once again, there's books everywhere they're making. You know, Ghost the movies are out there, which is Hollywood, some of it's Hollywood, but ghost is more ghost, I mean, is more tuned in

Alex Ferrari 48:05
I just watched, I just watched it again, probably a few weeks ago, actually watching with my daughters, because I hadn't seen it ever. And I'm like, Yeah, watch ghosts. These are fans of like, those, those 80s heart throbs, yeah, because they're like, there's nothing like those guys now. I'm like, yeah. Patrick Swayze is not around right now in his prime. I mean, you know Patrick and all those guys back in the day. So they watched it, and I was watching it. I'm like, my god, he nailed a lot. And I know, yeah, I know Bruce, who wrote it. He won the Oscar for it, and I know the backstory of the whole how he came up with it, and in his whole spiritual journey, he's a Tibetan. He's a Tibetan meditation teacher now, but wonderful. But you could see that he got a lot.

Cheryl Murphy 48:49
He got a lot right, because Whoopi Goldberg is also evidence. I mean, she's providing evidential information that didn't show medium, can, can, can confirm and and then, once again, the trance channel, as you mentioned, she starts hearing everybody in the room and calling out names and really setting that intention. I think she did. I think she was that mystic, you know, I think he did get it right with with connecting with this, the departed spirit come.

Alex Ferrari 49:15
But I love that she was a charlatan at the beginning,

Cheryl Murphy 49:18
That she didn't believe.

Alex Ferrari 49:19
No, she wasn't, she wasn't a real she was just, she was out for the buck. She was out for the buck. She was a hustler. She's like, you know, doing the whole, like, the whole thing, yeah, what I love about you, Cheryl, is that you present yourself in a very professional manner. You're very articulate. And that is, I'm hoping what I'm trying to do with the show is to put that kind of light on this kind of work, because it's been bastardized by Hollywood, and also just from reality, because that's what it was with the whole gypsy vibe and, you know, the crystal ball and all of that kind of vibe where people it was, it was laughing stock, almost. And that's why people never. Normal, mainstream never took it seriously. But there's so many people like you know, mediums like you, evidential, mediums like you, who are professional, who dress professionally, who speak professionally, and are and that you can't argue. Like, is she nuts? Yeah. Well, she is. She's well put together. She speaks pretty well. I mean,

Cheryl Murphy 50:19
Give me a second here. I have an amazing set of beautiful mentors and instructors. And I got to tell you, I have learned from Spirit so much. They are an amazing teacher the spirit world. And as you mentioned, the fear and the taboo, you know that's what it was, is the psychic. The word psychic commits so many different things back then. It was a darker energy, or it was something to fear, or it was against my religion, right? It was against a religious belief.

Alex Ferrari 50:48
It's the devil's work. Obviously, there we are. You are the devil. So am I, obviously.

Cheryl Murphy 50:53
So, yeah. So what we've and, well, what we've learned is, you know, the Bible is probably the most metaphysical book out there, right? And so, but, you know, it's all maybe on how you look at it, but it's really through experience, and that's what I do in my mediumship, is offer validation and evidence to support that I am connecting with your loved one and to bring you the feeling. My goal always is to help people connect with their loved ones heart to heart, right? Help them feel like, Oh, my God, this is possible your loved one can be right here you are receiving the signs or the tap on the shoulder, or the smell of their fragrance in the room. Like, that is your loved ones.

Alex Ferrari 51:31
I remember when I was, you know, when I stepped my toe into this space as a podcaster. I was terrified, terrified because I was, I had a I had a real business, real business. I had another business, yeah, that was in the filmmaking world. And I was forced into this by my, my spiritual mentor, Connie, and she's like, you need to do it. You need to do and I'm like, All right, whatever. I'll do it. But I was terrified, and I literally for the I mean, I stopped. I don't know if you knew that, but I stopped for no so I started Easter of 2021, okay? And I would do an episode a week, maybe one every other week, and it turned into once a month. And if anyone who's been following me, they know I put out content like water. Okay, so I, at our peak, we were doing four to five episodes a week, so I was not bad. It's insane, don't I don't advise, it's a lot of work, but I kind of dipped my toe into it, and then I stopped for three months. Three to four months, I just stopped the whole show until kind of yelled at me, and then i Yes, you were being called back. She yelled at me, and I went back in. And I went hard and into it. I took the leap of faith, but for the first year and a half, I didn't have a psychic on. People can go back to the first 100 episodes, not once. I don't think maybe. I don't, I don't even think James, because I had James, James Van Praagh on, I think he was, he might have been one of the first ones, because he was very popular. Obviously, he's very reputable, but I'd have psychics on. I didn't have psychics. I didn't mediums. I channelers on because I knew channelers and I felt comfortable with that right psychic mediums, and I did not talk about angels, like I would never talk about angels, but I was like, That's just crazy talk. So you're talking to angels, come on so it even you could see the progression of me, of like, trying to open up and allow myself to do it, till I finally started allowing psychics on and mediums on, and because of what you said, that whole like, yeah, oh no, I'm like, I don't want to go down that road. So it's, it's really interesting. If you go back and look at those episodes, you know, I was very I was I was still scared,

Cheryl Murphy 53:38
Yeah, you were evolving. I had to your soul was evolving, and you were being called to spirit nudging you like, hey, get some more people on, you know, right?

Alex Ferrari 53:47
I was doing near death. A lot of near death experiences, a lot of things that were safer in this space, right, you know, but still on the outskirts, obviously. But, you know, when you have a channel coming in and channeling on the show with you, you're definitely not mainstream. But I it took me a minute to kind of open myself up. So I use that. I use that as an example for people to kind of understand that this is a process like even you. I'm assuming, when you first started, it took a minute to start. You took steps. It just didn't You didn't show up. And like, All right, everyone, I'm psychic. Now let's roll up.

Cheryl Murphy 54:19
Hey, look, it's so true, because, look, I was pumping a lot of energy through me too, in my early days where I had to take a break. You know, it's like, hey, I need to manage this energy coming through. I need to take a break, set it down for a while, and then spirit would call me back. And then, you know, my mediumship would evolve. I went from, you know, not only connecting with departed loved ones, but then it stepped into departed pets, or living pets, and then it stepped into medical intuition, and that's what spirit was guiding me towards, right? And then I was helping find missing persons for a while. There also must be tough work, though it's lovely, it's hard.

Alex Ferrari 54:56
I was gonna say that has to be tough work, because if you don't find them. You it's hard, or if you find them too late, I gotta believe on a psychological step, in an emotional standpoint, it must be brutal.

Cheryl Murphy 55:06
It's hard, it's and it's a lot of work, meaning it's a lot of psychic work. You've got to really, it's like remote viewing, you know, which you know, you know, find doing. We did latitude, longitude locations with Google Earth, you know, trying to help locate missing persons and but, yeah, but my, my mediumship, has evolved, you know, where I'm working more with students and teaching more, and I'm finding my I'm teaching different things. I'm teaching energy transformation sessions now, which talks about our energy field. So not only because I'm a medium and intuitive, a psychic, but I'm also, I have this energy, right? My aura. So how do I take care of this as a medium? And so then, now I'm teaching that to other people, like, Look, you don't have to be a medium or a psychic, but you got to learn to practice self care, because you're an energy being. You're an energy being who's probably intuitive, right? Or, you know, you're intuitive, especially those empaths that are opening up. They're super sensitive. You got to know how important grounding is, how important it is to connect with Mother Earth, keep your feet on the earth, and also how to be aware and practice self care with your energy field. Like, you know, don't drain yourself. You know how people work too hard, or you're right, yeah, they run themselves to the ground. Is that what they say?

Alex Ferrari 56:22
Yeah, that's I've been on the ground a few times. I'm trying to figure that out myself. Another thing that took me a minute to have how have on the show was people who spoke to animals in a psychic, psychic way. Because I was like, That's crazy talk. Why are you talking to your dog? That's not That's not like so it took me a minute to kind of wrap my head around it. So I wanted to, let's go into the to the animal aspect. I'm fascinated by this because, I mean, I have animals. I've had, I've had, I had a dog.

Cheryl Murphy 56:50
I know I felt a dog with your grandmother and grandfather. They all start coming in. So I'm like, Oh, there's the dog. And, yeah, your families was a little Great. Was he a little dude, you don't feel that. I didn't really feel size at the moment. I wasn't really going high energy. And I feel them usually around the waist or below, you know, because this is where they hang out, you know. Or if they jump in your lap, or if they jump up on you, or if they're laying down in the corner, I kind of feel their energy, what they're doing.

Alex Ferrari 57:17
I had, I had a dog that had medical issues, and for probably about three or four years of his life, and I had to take care of him, and was in my 20s and all that stuff. And it's fascinating. It's fascinating. He was my he's my companion since I was 18. And then I met my wife, and then I brought him over, brought her over to meet him, and the next day he left. He's like, Oh, thank God, someone else is here to take this guy on. He's a project. He's a project. Good luck to you, girl. I've already I'm done. And he left the next day, and I was like, wow, yeah. No, no, he needed to go. I kept them alive longer than you needed to be, to be honest with you, because I didn't want to let them go, but, but that was I found that so fascinating. And he has come in multiple times when in medium sessions that I've had with with friends who's like, you have a dog? I'm like, yeah, he's here, and he always hangs out with my grandpa.

Cheryl Murphy 58:17
Is that right? You know? And what happens is, you know, animals, their souls are magnificent. I think, you know, of course, animals are underrated, and, I mean, I just they're going to be so much more respected in the future, and they're a soul, just like you and I are a soul, and they're a guide for us. I would say, ask your pets, living or departed, they are a soul. Ask them for help if you need it. Ask them for direction in your life, like work with them. They are here to help.

Alex Ferrari 58:43
Yeah. So can you explain to me? So let's go, let's go into the animals for a second. What is like when are you able to speak to them while they're alive? Or so you speak to them while they're alive so they're so you can have communication with them. Okay? So first time you talk to a dog, seriously, seriously, Cheryl, tell me, I mean, the second you're like, I'm like, what's going on? You had to, like,

Cheryl Murphy 59:05
I had translated it.

Alex Ferrari 59:06
Okay, first of all, I'm down with talking to grandparents and loved ones. I'll even talk to an angel or a spirit guide, but now rover is talking to me now. And yeah, did you question, did you question it at all?

Cheryl Murphy 59:19
You have to get the German Shepherd.

Alex Ferrari 59:22
Am I talking to a German Shepherd spirit really like, what was that process for you?

Cheryl Murphy 59:28
I got to tell you, it's a pure energy, and it's one of delight and one of non judgment. And I have and of so animals that are living. How I help people in that way is people, they may have a behavior problem, or the owner doesn't know if they should get the animal and bring them into the other family of animals. Or one time, I had a woman work with me. She had race horses, but they kept injuring themselves, and so So I worked with them. Their legs would keep getting injured, and so we had to work with them on an emotion. Level. And then once she corrected them, they started placing we'll just call it that. So I do actually, I help animals communicate, even if they know that their loved ones are departed, for those that are still living, the animals, the humans and the animals with they have a departed parent, we'll just call or human that departed, the animal stays to help the others heal or mend. But it's funny, you know, because I was working with an animal who's talking to me about a dental appointment. He's like, you know, I got to go to the dentist. And I tell the owner that, she's like, Oh, I know we have an appointment. And they look at me. The owner looks at me like, I know that. You know, it's just your animal confirming it, but it takes them a minute to go, Oh, my God, you just got that information from my animal. How did you know that? Oh, my God,

Alex Ferrari 1:00:49
There's a I have a cat. I have to have two cats, and one of them is terrified all the time about everything. He's a scaredy cat, literally, the definition of a scary cat. It took him about three years to get warm up to me, because I was the male voice. Anytime he hears a male voice, he's like, under the bed, the other one completely just like, he'll go with anyone who has some food. Yeah? He's like, Hey, how you doing? Yeah. I was always wondering my wife and I always joined like, what happened to this? Because we had him since six months. So did he get traumatized in those first because with us, he came to us. I mean, when he first came to the house, he was under the stove, yeah, he snuck in, and he would, like, he was terrified all the time. So I was always wondering, like, did he is this a lot of Pat's life? Is it like, what is it?

Cheryl Murphy 1:01:39
Well, I, you know, i and i My eyes tear. I just want to tell you, because sometimes when you're in a high vibration, like your space, you know, it does bring it does make me kind of weep, because it's so beautiful here. So just to tell you, and so I just want to say, Look, your cat may have brought in a past life, but honestly, they are seeing spirit, but they're not afraid of the spirit. I feel in some way, they've never been treated with the love that you and your wife are offering them or your family. It's almost like I'm afraid of I've never been in this situation before, but I do feel they brought in something from a past life. I do want to say also the male energy that you're talking about that could be the trauma thing, as you're mentioning.

Alex Ferrari 1:02:25
It took a lot a long he's cool with women like women like even when people women come over, he'll get scared for a minute, but then he'll relax. But if he hears a male, a deep voice gone,

Cheryl Murphy 1:02:35
And it could be that you and this cat had a past life together. I don't know if you ever feel that, but it's like,

Alex Ferrari 1:02:42
Sure, sure. That makes a lot of sense. But he has, but he's, he's basically one of my daughters, his cat, okay, like, that's his safe space. And she's the most energetic. He's the quietest, and he's, she's the most energetic of the house. So she's like, you know, kind of like, playfully, yeah, out of everyone in the house, you chose her,

Cheryl Murphy 1:03:02
Yeah, like you chose her, he's her protector, right? So he gets to be that masculine energy, right? So another masculine around the house is a little bit Hey, and he's masculine. Stay in your territory. Like, what are you doing in my space, right?

Alex Ferrari 1:03:18
Interesting, interesting. So, so then, how do you how do you communicate with animals on the other side? Crossed? Yeah, have crossed? Like, do you have a comp? Like, is it? Obviously there's a translation. They're not, woof, woof. Obviously, there's a whole other conversation going on.

Cheryl Murphy 1:03:33
Well, once again, they are a beautiful soul, and they'll communicate with me through sending me images in my clairvoyance. They'll I'll hear once again, using my Claire audience, or I'll get a feeling. And I want to tell you the owners, you know, I just have to say, sometimes when we lose our animals, people are, I mean, it's very traumatic to lose your best friends. That's right, sometimes worse than a human it's very much so. So we have to really with any, any reading I do, it's with integrity and respect for any individual. But animals are, in some way, a deeper connection. In some way they they serve their purpose, I will tell you, and it's no coincidence. However you get your animal, whether it's through they're a stray that comes in front your front door, or it was given to you or you, however it comes to a shelter, they're supposed to be in your life. They have picked you. Usually people are have had past lives with their animals in other ways. I know that one of my animals, I was a war veteran, and this animal was kind of in war with me, because animals used to go to war, right? Horses and dogs, of course, yeah. So, so how we communicate with animals who have passed is you really have to step into their energy. You have to be very surrendering, right? You have to really surrender your energy, really offer them, invite them in, or invite them to connect with you. And then you just start off a little bit at a time. Time, and then sometimes their personality will grow, but it is kind of a telepathic, I'll say a telepathy way of connecting with them. And once again, they know they're they know they're humans better than the humans know themselves. They know people better than we we give them credit for

Alex Ferrari 1:05:17
That's it's pretty remarkable. Now, when you're doing this kind of work, Cheryl, how do you protect your own energy? Yeah, because this is everything we're talking about, is a lot. There's a lot. There's a lot coming in. Yeah, a lot coming as my daughter's like, there's a lot here, Dad, you're a lot. So how do you protect your own energy from spirits, from all this kind of stuff.

Cheryl Murphy 1:05:44
And one thing I teach people is also how to how to show people how to strengthen their energy. So when I, when you talk about protecting myself, I feel that look, if I, if I stay healthy and energetically fit or strong in my auric field, or if I practice, you know, being a good person in the world, if I, you know, try to have a good outlook on life, if I try to eat well and live that balanced life that I pretty much am. And if I meditate, I'm, I'm pretty much holding a higher vibration. So I'm really as far as protection goes. I mean, naturally, I just pray every day. You know, it's these things are natural for me. So when I step into a reading, I'm always asking for the highest good to come for someone. I guess that's my form of connecting Before I begin my work, is I say, Look, let me just be of service. Let me bring through the highest good for someone, for the highest good, for what on their next step and their spiritual journey. And then for me, personally, I have to make sure, after I finish working with someone, that I take the time to show appreciation and gratitude for spirit, but also for my physical body, my mental body, like I have to really wet rest, you know, drink the water, enough water, eat properly, really, just kind of come down. We'll call it that. But it is about being gentle with yourself, not judging anything, right? Because when people start judging, they're kind of lowering the vibration. We'll just say that and but yeah, so for protection, it's about Holding, holding enough light through prayer, meditation, you know, looking for the light in others perhaps.

Alex Ferrari 1:07:29
I wanted to ask you, going back to the animals, do they evolve?

Cheryl Murphy 1:07:34
My God, they evolve. And they're, we're so lucky that they help us.

Alex Ferrari 1:07:39
They but is that like, kind of like, in other words, humans are here. Animals are at a different wave. Like, not lower, higher, just different. Do they evolve to another higher level, or do they just, like, that's the lane I picked, kind of like, angels. Angels picked being an angel, and they're not generally going up and down.

Cheryl Murphy 1:07:58
You know, animals evolve and they reincarnate and come back and see us again in another lifetime, or as another animal. So absolutely, they're still lessons to learn, or they're still things to do.

Alex Ferrari 1:08:10
But do they evolve past the animal?

Cheryl Murphy 1:08:12
I do believe, I believe they're still evolving to higher planes. I know they're filled with unconditional love, that's what they're but I still feel like they're I still feel like they're reaching. They're reaching on ways to love more. We could call it that,

Alex Ferrari 1:08:26
Yeah, because they're pure love. Anyone who's ever owned an animal or not owned but had an animal in their life, they understand it's just pure love. Curiously, though, there are animals who are not pure love out there, throwing that out there. Now it could now, when it comes to domesticated animals, is, you know, that could be trauma or could be other things, right? But a tiger or a bear or a polar bear, not so cuddly, but that's just a natural instinct. So what's their energy? Have you talked to a polar bear?

Cheryl Murphy 1:08:58
You're making me wonder. I think I've, I don't know if I have I think horses may be horses and rabbits. I think maybe more domesticated.

Alex Ferrari 1:09:05
Yeah, they're more closer to humans. So the Wilder, the Wilder the animal. You should go to a zoo and see

Cheryl Murphy 1:09:10
I should I don't know about zoos. I don't know. I don't know if I can, but I do want to say, look, animals are they're very accepting of us. I think it's us who kind of get into their territory, you know. I mean, the lovely Jane Goodall asked, right? So we have to honor her absolutely so. So in that way, she invited them to, you know, go at their own pace. And in that way they were, you know, the strength of a mountain in the most gentle touch with her as well.

Alex Ferrari 1:09:44
Yeah, that's true. I mean, the gorillas, you know, the in the monkey is monkeys, right? Or gorillas? Yeah, yeah, gorillas, gorillas, monkeys, monkeys, gorillas, yeah, they, they were gentle with her, but her energy was, I mean, if you ever hear her speak, you're just like,

Cheryl Murphy 1:09:58
Isn't she lovely?

Alex Ferrari 1:09:59
Like, you're. But of course, oh, she's like a warm apple pie.

Cheryl Murphy 1:10:02
It's our vibration that we have to tune in to match theirs, right?

Alex Ferrari 1:10:07
Well, I saw, I heard this story. I was great story. Josh Brolin, the actor, Josh Brolin, he was, this is when he was a kid, or no, actually, when he was a little older. But his mom worked with animals. And they had a wild in a zoo. They had this gorilla that would not he was like, he'd heard, he'd heard a zookeeper already, and they didn't know what to do, like they didn't have a track with them. So they were really freaking out. And they called his mom, and the mom comes, she said, apparently she works with animals, right? And she shows up, and she's like, open the gate. Like, man, man, we can't open the gate. Oh, my God, walked in like that and that, like, Don't he's already hurt to Zookeeper. Like, open the gate. Now, they opened the gate. She walked in, it's a Silverback. Starts doing like, his thing, right? To show his power, sure. And she yelled at him like a child, really. And he's like, You stop it right now and get and Josh was like, I know that tone. If I were him, I'd calm the hell down before something goes off. Oh, my God, that gorilla relaxed, and he walked right into his enclosure, and she went in there, closed the door behind him, and everybody was just sitting there, like

Cheryl Murphy 1:11:25
Animals, no. I mean, you think the animal could have gone the other way? Could have gotten angry at her, yelling at him

Alex Ferrari 1:11:31
With one, yeah, one little swing of that silver back, and she's done,

Cheryl Murphy 1:11:36
I like that Crocodile Dundee thing where he does that with the dog. Oh, the Crocodile Hunter, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, right. It's so true. It's the you have to tune into them. You have to tune into them. And because she hangs out with animals, especially wild animals, and probably, you know, rescuing animals, you know, you got to be on their their turf, you know,

Alex Ferrari 1:11:59
Now when you're doing a lot of these healings or psychic work, do you ever take on the pain? Yeah, like the pain, not just the story, like, Oh, your grandma died in a horrible accident. Not that actual,

Cheryl Murphy 1:12:14
Yes, fortunately, not. I have taken on enough to know. So Spirit gives it to me with my permission, you know, I mean, we, if it's ever too much, I will say something, but they give the information. If the person passes from the heart, for example, I feel that I feel the information in the heart. We'll call it that it does feel pain or discomfort. And then more. And then I go deeper with that, and I realize it was what condition it was around the heart that they passed. And then as soon as I mention it to my client and get the confirmation it's being released, it's like you have the information or the pain long enough to notice it, to deliver it, and then it is released. But to leave a session with a client and take that pain home with me. For example, I have not, and that is absolutely part of practicing, you know, the ethics of what we do, right?

Alex Ferrari 1:13:10
Everyone I always tell people, just because they have a gift doesn't mean they're ethical. Yeah, yeah. Like in any, like in any, any field, just because they're good at something or have a gift in something, doesn't mean they're good people.

Cheryl Murphy 1:13:23
I know, I know a really, and they put and they, I know my friend of mine, right? She got a reading from someone in a small town. And, you know, a lot of people get steered the wrong way for the money, right? If you give me X amount of dollars, I'll get rid of something for you, what have you? You're there's a curse, so which I can't address.

Alex Ferrari 1:13:44
I was going to ask about not only curses, but dark energy and psychic attacks and, yeah, kind of things I was raised. I'm Cuban, so I was raised in that world, in the site, like my family, the Cuban culture is very afro, Afro Cuban, so a lot of not voodoo, but there is something called Santeria, which is like, black magic, dark magic, white magic. So, like, I have a cousin who's wears white all the time. Okay, he's a white priest, and he takes care of the white I'm not sure if he's still doing it, but he did it for a while to protect against curses. And they call it like, anytime you're like, you're going through stuff, you say, oh, I need a limp, yes, which means I need a cleaning. I got all this stuff. There's stuff on it. You need someone to clean that off. You is, is that? Like, what's your take on all of that? Because a lot of people, Hollywood's obviously built that whole thing up.

Cheryl Murphy 1:14:41
Yeah, right, yeah, yeah. Well, so look, I'm clearing your own energy so as a, as an, as a medium, I do clear my energy field before I work with someone, right? Do I believe people can get psychic attacks and

Alex Ferrari 1:14:58
The karma

Cheryl Murphy 1:14:59
And the karma. Or the dark light or the whatever that is. I really believe that it's like you said, it's maybe more a Hollywood or, nay say, it's more of an older energy. I do believe a lot of people right now are of a higher consciousness, just in general. I don't believe that energy is, once again, it's the fear that attracts people, right? They're like, Oh my God, she's sending me. I'm getting psychically attacked. It's like, No, you just need to know that you are all powerful and that you are made of the light and that that won't even affect you or get near you. And because it's something in the conscious brain, I think that is more entertaining to get a psychic attack and someone makes you feel important, yeah, it makes you feel like it's not you. And then you can give your power away, you know, because it's then, you know, like someone else is doing this. Yes,

Alex Ferrari 1:15:47
Someone else is cursed. Yes, yes. I need, I need, I need to go to you to get this cursed, right?

Cheryl Murphy 1:15:52
And then someone may take advantage of of that. No, so, so. But what we do is we have to show people their own light. We have to say, Look, you have the power. You can manifest what you think feel, and that can change. You know, that can change look, if you think unkindly of someone, or if you don't, if you wish people ill will. I mean, you're just attracting that yourself. So wouldn't you want to wish good people. Well, wouldn't you want to be, wanting to attract loving, giving people in your life? Then you must also be that example.

Alex Ferrari 1:16:30
Would it be kind of the equivalent of like a walking master who's on earth now, like, let's say, a yogi of an advanced soul, advanced yogi, or, you know, just Yogananda is still walking around right now, absolutely. Let's say Yogananda is alive right now. There's no one who's going to be able to curse, right, Yogananda or Jesus, right? They're not going to be able to throw dark energy their way, because there's so much light that they just that's not even a thing.

Cheryl Murphy 1:16:57
That's not even in their orbit. It's not in their radar.

Alex Ferrari 1:17:00
They and if they believe, let's say, let's say, I'm walking around the street and I believe that I can get cursed or dark energy or anything like that, well, you're kind of doing it to yourself. You go looking for it, you go looking for it, and you're kind of doing yourself. But they have, people have to understand that they have the power themselves to repel all of that. It's similar to. And now this is what I love, what I do, because I kind of see the I connect the lines between all these different kind of guests when near death experiencers, who have had darker experiences, which is rare in near death experiences, but darker experiences from their own point of view, they're like, Oh, I needed to go through that, because that's what I believed when I died. I was Catholic and I wasn't I didn't feel good enough about myself, so I had to go through a hellish experience. But the moment in that hellish experience, they go, I need help. Can someone help me? Yeah, all that, all they have to do is say that, and then a light shows, and everything scatters, Jesus or an angel or a grandma or someone with light comes in and it just takes them out. Would you agree?

Cheryl Murphy 1:18:04
Right! Because we are so we go looking for the dark because we're, we're interested. It's entertaining, you know? It's entertaining for some people, they like the drama of it, not knowing that they're their own creator, right? We're co creators of the universe, right? So, but once they learn that, hey, I can attract better things, or maybe I don't want to attract problems my whole life, you know, or things that weigh me down. And I understand that I am my own power, that I understand that I the I Am, the I Am Presence, you know, then we can really set forth to, you know, looking for things that are really all about love, because it is all about the vibration of love and attracting that

Alex Ferrari 1:18:42
When people pass is there something that you've in your experience of doing, I'm sure, a few sessions over the years? What is the main thing that the main message that people who've passed on want to say to their to the loved ones who's left behind? Is it love? Is it I'm sorry? Is it I didn't know? Like, what is the main message that you feel, that that comes in again and again and again?

Cheryl Murphy 1:19:07
You know, the main message is that I'm here, I still love you, you know, I'm supporting you, I'm watching you. I'm here. I made it, you know? Because a lot of loved ones, people want to know, did they go to heaven? Are they okay on the other side? Do they know I'm still thinking about them, and yes, it's a resounding yes every time parent, loved ones do come in to apologize, but more so they're coming in to love You and to support you, especially the ones that you want to hear from. They're the ones saying, Look, I saw you. Know that you made the sandwich last week, or I'm watching you even the little mundane moments of your day. I know you're doing that. I see you, and I'm definitely there for all those big events in your life, like I haven't missed it.

Alex Ferrari 1:19:53
And did you ever hear just so people understand? Did you ever hear someone from the other side going, Oh, I. Hated her, then I hate her. Now, I couldn't stand her, then I can't stand her. Now, do you get crotchety souls that come through? Have you ever had crotchety souls?

Cheryl Murphy 1:20:11
Well, but they've learned, well, I'll tell you what I have to share, that I had a person come by because they're people. We have to understand these are people. A person came by, you mean the spirit, a spirit communicator, I call a spirit came through with me in a reading the other day, and he told me, and he was kind of the crotchety guy, and he's like, I don't believe in any of this stuff. Like, I don't believe in this. I'm over here. I've always lived by myself. I didn't want to have anything, didn't want to have anything, didn't want anything to didn't want to have anything to do with anyone, right? But I'm bringing through his niece. His niece is the one I'm working with. She is the client at the moment, and and he comes through to tell her, Look, this is real. I made it look. And he still may be a little crotchety, but that's his personality. Just to show her that that's him, because she wouldn't have believed it if I would have said, Oh, he's all such a sweet and loving guy. Yeah, she would have, but I said, No, he's kind of crotchety and he has a lot of facial hair and and he tells me doesn't want to deal with anyone. And that's him. That's him. So do they learn they learn patience, they learn awareness, they learn that they have a choice. They learn that they can stay whatever they'd like to do in that world, or whatever they'd like to do in the afterlife, or whenever they're ready, they can venture out or learn other lessons, or go exploring or have be curious. And that's when that's when we evolve. But they're doing fine, just where they are. And yeah, they have that personality, though.

Alex Ferrari 1:21:45
Do you find that we as humans are constantly throwing human, peoplely stuff on the spirit world, meaning, like, Okay, Uncle Bob passed. I wonder what his apartment is on the other side. He's like, does he have a job? I don't want to bother him because he's in his new life. Do you find that that because that's we have to wrap our head around, our brain is trying to understand this, and the other side is such, so infinite, and these ideas of all lives are happening at the same time, and all these very non nonlinear, non space and time world, the three dimensional world, right? And we're throwing three dimensional world on something that's not three dimensional. Do you find that that happens a lot?

Cheryl Murphy 1:22:26
Well, a lot of people who have passed, for example, you know, still live in the same house, like they it is through consciousness that they're that they're existing. But if you have a married couple and they and they loved their life, and they woke up every morning having coffee and reading the newspaper together. More enough, more more times than enough. I'll bring that information through that. That's what they're still doing. On the other side, they're still living together, sharing the coffee in the morning, reading the paper. But there are those other souls that are learning they're helping us here on Earth. You know, they're helping us. They're helping children. They're helping people cross over, sometimes people who pass from suicide. They help people who have crossed over once again, how to how to kind of adjust, or how to maybe even help in some way, connect with them while they're still living, to help them, maybe support them.

Alex Ferrari 1:23:21
So let me ask you this now, we're going to go into deep waters again, as these are fine. These are deeper waters. So if the soul is on the other side, and you just said, like, hey, they still read the paper, and they see all that stuff, right? And I've heard stories of, like, yeah, he's on the golf course. I mean, like, that kind of stuff, yeah, it's, it seems almost, it seems very interesting, because it's that's not them. Obviously, that's a part of their soul. There's an oversoul, and there's multiple live, you know, things, but there's that version of them, that kind of shard spark that is the golfer who loves golf, you know, or, you know, I'm sure Alfred Hitchcock is on a movie set ups there, up there. I know Stanley Kubrick is on a movie set right day, shooting stuff, but that's it's hard for me to wrap my head around. Is it kind of like what dreams may come exactly, where you can create the universe or the world that you want, but it's only an aspect of the true over soul? Yes, we're getting into deeper waters.

Cheryl Murphy 1:24:16
Yeah, yeah. Well, I'll just say that. So when we cross over. We're not in a perfect situation, like when we cross over, yes, there is a we're in a higher consciousness. But if we had problems here on Earth, they're not all solved at one in one breath. Okay? We're still working on those lessons. Like, if you don't, if you don't get it all down here, it's going to continue, right? Life is eternal. Our lessons move with us. So yes, we are, I'll just say we're enjoying the things we want to enjoy more when we're in spirit like if you liked eating a pizza, you can still eat a pizza in the spirit world, you have the experience of eating the pizza, and it could be the memory or the texture that you're experiencing that so perhaps. Person playing golf. Maybe they're not physically on the golf course, but they can create the experience of loving the game, and that's why, if you didn't get along with someone that you loved, like if you didn't get along with a relative or anyone here on Earth, somehow in spirit, when you're still living and your departed loved ones over there. You can still heal a relationship. You can still mend. You can even get to know them better because they're they're now in a in a consciousness, perhaps, that you can maybe be more open to connecting with it's very healing, connecting and working, as a medium. It's not just delivering information or connecting. It's healing. It's helping you understand that there's a there's a bridge, there's a, once again, a connection with you and the spirit world. It's very healing doing readings as well.

Alex Ferrari 1:25:56
Have you in all of your years heard of a soul that was in Hell,

Cheryl Murphy 1:26:04
Yeah, here, that's about right, right? So I haven't heard of a hell good, but I have heard of different levels, right?

Alex Ferrari 1:26:16
Holding. Holding here, not purgatory, but a holding level, yeah?

Cheryl Murphy 1:26:19
Different vibrations, right? So, yeah, maybe not so much of a hell with the fire and the brimstone. But everyone is where they where they should be or where they need to be in order for them to grow. You know, they're all at different planes.

Alex Ferrari 1:26:35
I'm assuming an Ascended Master is on a different plane than Hitler, generally, speaking,

Cheryl Murphy 1:26:42
I would say so, and I could say they overlap, or they crisscross, or they go in and out. So it's not just one plane and that's it forever. I think you overlap. You have opportunities to move up. For example, you have choices that you get to make. You can come back and you're you can reincarnate, if you would wish, or you can go on somewhere else, in other galaxies, as they say, to evolve, or other dimensions to maybe learn if that's what you would like to do. But yeah, hell, I haven't met anyone yet, but I have heard of people at lower vibrations.

Alex Ferrari 1:27:18
I've heard I'm sure someone's yelling at the screen right now, like, Well, why would you hear from someone in hell? They're in hell. You can't talk to them. They're being punished.

Cheryl Murphy 1:27:27
I don't, I don't, yeah, yeah, I don't know. I don't, yeah, hell is not. So when you pass away, like Hitler, if we could just go there for a moment, it's not a punishment, it's it's almost a resonance, you know, it's something that resonates with what your soul needs at that time. And it's not something that you know anyone else would be on, for example, because of all the things that happened. But it would be a place of learning and growing. I mean, the opportunities of learning and growing are there.

Alex Ferrari 1:27:58
Have you heard on the other side of a I've heard this from near death experiences. I've heard also from psychic mediums. I wanted to hear from you, if they're like, on the other side, is there, like these kind of set, I hate to use the word center, but if someone goes out of this life with a lot of trauma, there's a place for them to, kind of decompression chamber, if you will, that they can go in and kind of like, it's okay, it's because it's almost like PTSD, right kind of thing. Like, if it was tragic, or you had a lot of trauma, or you had a lot of abuse, or something like that, that you would have to go in there to, kind of, because you're coming in with that,

Cheryl Murphy 1:28:35
Yeah, or a major, a major, a quick, an abrupt passing, that was a tragic, yeah, anything like that. So honestly, I think there is a place I don't know if it's how I would describe it, I feel like, but it's very close. Like, when I feel someone passes from a traumatic occurrence, I do feel there is help on the other side for them, specifically for that, meaning, help them rest. We'll call it, or as you mentioned, like recuperate or a place to go for healing first,

Alex Ferrari 1:29:10
Before they're sent into Gen pop,

Cheryl Murphy 1:29:14
Before the before the life review, or whatever that may happen next. But I do believe it happens. I mean, I think in some way, you and I, we think of it being a physical place, but I do feel it's more of an awareness happening, like, as you mentioned, they're asking for help and or their other could be other people on the other side, helping to support that.

Alex Ferrari 1:29:38
Interesting, yeah, interesting have you, I always I say Jesus is the hardest working man knew you were going to go there Max. I always say he's, he's, when you're a psychic, you should. I don't know why. He just popped into my head and he's like, but Jesus, I always hear Jesus the hardest working man in show business, yeah, and that's from the Western standpoint, because I'm assuming. Is that the Asian standpoint, Buddha is the hardest working man and show business, arguably, you know. And in the Muslim world, Muhammad is so I imagine that they show up where they need to show up. In India, it's Krishna, you know, kind of thing, though, occasionally, do you know you see an Indian, an Indian person has Jesus show up and Krishna shows up for a Westerner, what is your experience with those masters, those so glad, those masks, yeah, these masters that you know. Do they come in? Do they talk like, if I'm having a session with you and grandma and grandpa, right, right? And we're talking about grandma, like, where is the key to the vault? Yes, I need to get like, that kind of conversation. And then all of a sudden, Yeshua shows up, right? Isa shows up, right? Whatever you like to call him, right? He shows up. He's like, Hold on, I got, you know, yeah, has that happened?

Cheryl Murphy 1:30:50
Absolutely, like Yogananda earlier, right? I do feel Jesus's guides for people a lot. Or even the Buddha is guides a lot of people. It's a My God, my guide. I had an experience, if I may, with Jesus. So I was meditating, and Jesus came to me three days in a row, interesting. And the first day he said, surrender, right? And he only give like one word answers, right? But it means so much.

Alex Ferrari 1:31:16
And he's very busy. He's jumping, consult the soul up. He doesn't have time to chit chat.

Cheryl Murphy 1:31:21
Once again. It's like, it's like I could see right into his eyes, and he saw right through me in this meditation. I mean, I gotta tell you, it's incredible when peace people tell me they've had a Jesus moment. It's like, I understand what you mean now I do. I get it. He came to me the second day and said, Forgive. You know, like practice forgiveness and that, you know, you just the water works happen

Alex Ferrari 1:31:42
Just basic, basic, simple, basic, hard truths,

Cheryl Murphy 1:31:46
Which I tell everyone will deepen your intuition. Like, I mean, forgiveness has to be the number one key to open your intuition. And then the example he gave me for forgiveness was like a labyrinth. So I was shown to walk this labyrinth in my mind's eye, and you practice forgiveness. So on the outer rims of the circle, you're practicing forgiveness for the little things in life, the small stuff. And as you move closer to the center of the labyrinth, the bigger things come up that we need to forgive. And then finally, when you reach the center, you understand that you're forgiving yourself, right? So that was very powerful experience. And then the third day, Jesus came to me and said, You've told me how much you love me. Let me show you how much I love you. Once again, the water works happened. I was taken up to a level or a plane. Thank you. Of instant manifestation. You know, whatever I thought was would happen at that moment, and I spent the entire day, or however many days, with things would happen as soon as you think it whether the phone, not not just the phone ringing, but having certain experiences happen that I wanted to, whether it was a healing, whether it was maybe healing a relationship with someone that would happen, but that maybe it was manifesting something that happened as well. So once again, I think we do reach levels of it being more I guess people are more open to it, you know, open when you raise those levels. So then for me as a medium, I am also welcoming your guides and angels. I'm sure you are connected to the Buddha, you know, and to Krishna and to Jesus. I feel like in some way, you've walked with Jesus and you've had dreams about me, yeah, oh, you've all dreams walking with Jesus before. But anyway, as a medium, they do come through in readings, and people can identify them also. Mother Mary comes through

Alex Ferrari 1:33:42
Magdalene, Mother Mary, Quan Yin, all.

Cheryl Murphy 1:33:45
Lovely. So when it is that divinity that is really able to reach people because they're open to it, and that's the consciousness that we're opening up to,

Alex Ferrari 1:33:53
That's what all of us are starting to open up, mostly. So is that why we're starting to like the concept of Ascended Masters, which is a philosophy idea they for. I think, in the late 1800s early 1900s that concept of the Ascended Master was first introduced, and it's been kind of people are running wild with it. Now, this Ascended Masters thing, and these ideas like now, people are talking about Mother Mary, not only as the mother of Jesus, but like in her own right, a master, Mary Magdalene, as in their in her own right, a master. The feminine energy is coming out so fine, female divine, female energy is starting to rise in a much deeper way than before.

Cheryl Murphy 1:34:41
It's the age of the times, right? Removing, as they say, from one age into another age. And the divine feminine, which is very creative, very creative, very powerful, very compassionate, is opening up. And that may be why more men are intuitive also, you know, because a lot of times. Back in the day, we'll say, you know, it was more women were psychic or but now much more men, even men and families, like I mentioned, my brothers, very intuitive in my household. You're very intuitive and empathic for just being in this work, anyone being called but the divine feminine is the creator, right? We're creating, right? We're not so much driving the boat like the masculine energy was. That's leaving our planet. The Divine Feminine is listening more, right? We're understanding more. We're we're willing to work together. How's that? You know, we're willing to collaborate.

Alex Ferrari 1:35:38
It seems like the masculine energy might have been needed at a certain time of humanity to drive, to get things going, to get things going, because that's the energy of the masculine, but the divine now, divine feminine is kind of okay. We're good now, yep, we're off. They're off and running. Now you can take a rest, take a rest, and now we can, let's, let's take the lead a little bit, and we'll work together, yeah? But it's, but it's because before it was all masculine, so much more masculine. I mean, all I mean, I mean the Coliseum, let's just all masculine, yeah, all the time. And you could have seen within the last in my lifetime. I mean, it wasn't it like in the 40s or the 50s, women couldn't even have a credit card without our husband, I know. I mean, it was

Cheryl Murphy 1:36:22
My mother. My mother couldn't have a credit card. Well, she was one. She finally was able to but, yeah, back in the day, the mortgage on a house like women couldn't buy a home without a big co signer, just like a credit card you mentioned, without the father, the father or the husband, right?

Alex Ferrari 1:36:37
It was, it's, but see, it's so much has changed. And for me, I've always been around women all my life. So I've raised by women. Grandmother, yeah.

Cheryl Murphy 1:36:48
So, you know the strength and the power, like they had to have

Alex Ferrari 1:36:52
Latino women, no, none less. So it's like whole other level of spice I've been around. So I've been around women most of my life. I always joke that, like I have no testosterone in my life, even my cat's balls are cut off. And on that note, Cheryl, that's a good place to finish this conference. Cheryl, where can people find out more about amazing work?

Cheryl Murphy 1:37:17
You so, so when my website is mediumcheryl.com, I'm always on social media at Medium Cheryl. I love everything that I'm doing with my healing prayer circle, my energy transformation sessions, my private readings. But really my website, they can find out every all my events happening,

Alex Ferrari 1:37:41
If the Spirit will give humanity one message right now, will it be? What do we need to hear right now?

Cheryl Murphy 1:37:46
Yeah, I would say like open the divine within, you know, is to kind of understand that we all have that spark or that Divine within us. And if we can find that we can really answer a lot of our own questions, or we can solve maybe a lot of our own problems.

Alex Ferrari 1:38:04
Cheryl, it's been such a pleasure talking to you. Thank you. It was so beautiful talking to you. I love your energy. I love what you you're doing in the world, and I appreciate you, and everything you do in awaken this planet.

Cheryl Murphy 1:38:14
Thank you so much, and thank you for being so gracious and opening up this amazing venue in the studio. I mean, you really are doing the work of Yogananda, of the light of love, which is and allowing this platform to happen, because it's really raising that vibration, which is really bringing healing to a lot of people. So thank you.

Alex Ferrari 1:38:36
I appreciate you. Thank you again.

Cheryl Murphy 1:38:37
Namaste.