TOP Austrian Channeler’s WARNING! ANGELIC REALM on Humanity’s FUTURE in 2025 & BEYOND! with Asil Toksal

Alex Ferrari 0:00
When you put the power in somebody else's hands, it's a lot more comfortable.

Asil Toksal 0:03
Of course!

Alex Ferrari 0:03
Generally speaking,

Asil Toksal 0:04
Because you can hold them accountable. You can blame it on them.

Alex Ferrari 0:07
Right! But to have faith within yourself is very not only scary, but if you look at anyone who's ever accomplished anything in this lifetime, they've always had faith in themselves.

Asil Toksal 0:20
I'm not sourcing this faith from somewhere else. It's coming from me here, the understanding that you are experiencing the illusion of separation while being an interconnected collective of consciousness, the future exists in fields of probability. Therefore every aspect of the moment that allows for the free will of humans to come together. When someone's consciousness isn't ready, they won't even be able to hear you.

Alex Ferrari 1:02
I like to welcome to the show Asil Toksal how you doing Asil?

Asil Toksal 1:05
Good Alex, how are you?

Alex Ferrari 1:07
I'm doing good, my friend. Thank you so much for coming down to next level soul studios, and I've been really looking forward to to meeting you and having this conversation.

Asil Toksal 1:14
Well, I've been seeing you a lot on social media, and I was been wondering when it'll be time for us to have a chat.

Alex Ferrari 1:20
Yeah, and it's so funny, because, you know, normally I get inundated with requests to be on the show, but you're one of the people that I actually found in my feed, in my world, you just came across, and then I actively pursued you to come on the show. And because you don't do many interviews, you have done very few over the last four or five years,

Asil Toksal 1:40
That's right. So we've been very focused on building the organization and building the community. And then eventually we realized, okay, it needs a lot of PR too, to get the word out, not just delivery, but really active talking about it in the public eye. So I'm happy to be here.

Alex Ferrari 2:01
Yes, I'mvery happy to have you. I'm looking forward to it so, so your work, your spiritual work, spawns from your channeling, essentially, right? You have your channel, and you channel the the naphim, I can never say the name

Asil Toksal 2:15
So I channel the Elohim.

Alex Ferrari 2:17
Elohim thank you,

Asil Toksal 2:18
Right! And also angelic beings. It all started with Emmanuel. He was the first angelic being that I connected with that basically spoke through me or to me, and then it evolved into other angelic beings, and now I'm a channel for the Elohim.

Alex Ferrari 2:35
So before we go down that road, what was your life like before this insanity that came into your life of channeling the Elo, Leo, I can never say the name Elohim. Elohim. Elohim. Thank you. Before you start channeling the Elohim and talking about angels and all of this kind of, you know, insane. It's insane. It's all insane. It's nuts, it's nuts. So what was your life like before this came into your life?

Asil Toksal 3:01
Very grounded. So I'm a trained scientist and engineer, really, from Austria, okay? So very particular, conditioned mind, right?

Alex Ferrari 3:13
An Austrian engineer, scientist,

Asil Toksal 3:15
That's exactly right, very that's exactly

Alex Ferrari 3:18
I have the picture in my head, yes.

Asil Toksal 3:18
And so that life, you know, took me on a journey of being academic and then also being an entrepreneur. I started a couple companies, and I was pretty much in digital marketing and advertising for a solid 10 plus 15 plus years, and it was something that I was good at, but that doesn't mean it made me happy, right? People come and pat on your shoulder and they say, Wow, you've got the dream life, man. And I'm thinking, Well, why am I not feeling it? Then, right? And this, and a good friend of mine that was visiting me when I was doing an expat stint in Singapore, he basically came to me and he said, Asil, you might be living a dream life, but it's someone else's dream life. It's not yours. And that really struck a chord in my heart, and I thought, he's right, this is not my dream life. It doesn't matter how valuable it would be for someone else, but something is not right, and I'm getting I'm starting to get sick, I'm starting to be depressed. I'm starting to really feel a pressure from spirit or from my soul to have a drastic change without knowing where the next step will lead me, right? And that is terrifying for everyone in your circle, in my circle, right? They basically say, Oh, my God, have a plan, at least. I'm like, No, this is not how it works. You don't make a plan and then let go.

So you burn the you burn the boat.

I did

Alex Ferrari 3:38
At the shore.

Asil Toksal 4:04
I did. I jumped off the cliff of the metaphorical,

Alex Ferrari 4:54
Metaphorical, yeah, wow. That's that takes, uh, as they say, my language, cojones, sir.

Asil Toksal 4:59
Yeah, I thought at that time I was I had almost no option, and the option,

Alex Ferrari 5:07
But what drew you to that, though, what made you think that, like, I know you had, you were living someone else's dream life, but a lot of people have that feeling, yeah, what caused you to take that action, that step, that that I'm gonna burn the bridge. I'm gonna burn everything behind me and I forward is the only way I can't go back.

Asil Toksal 5:25
So here's the thing I had. I had vested interest in an advertising agency, and I was in a very good position, and I was doing really well with big clients and corporations. I was getting more and more depressed every morning, going to work was just a drag, and I went to a psychotherapist because I thought, maybe I need professional help. The therapist sat down with me, and he said, you know, young men, and he was an older guy from Singapore. He said, You know, I think you don't need medication, you need a lifestyle change. What you're doing may not be what your heart wants to do, so I recommend you think about how life would look like if this is not what you do. And I thought about it, it felt to me like I want to travel. I want to explore spirituality. I want to understand all the different ways humanity is connected to spirit, in its most authentic, in its most pristine, in its most intense ways, the most authentic teachers that I can find. I want to understand how all of these traditions became to came to be. So that was kind of the spark that excited me, and the terror of letting go of a life that has been created was mitigated by the excitement of what could be,

Alex Ferrari 6:56
And that's the balance that we have to deal with, because a lot of times the fear is so much more than what if, yes, the What If. I had to do it with this show. I was terrified, and I had to take the jump where I'm like, I have to go all in. And that's when things started to change, when I took the leap. But it's scary.

Asil Toksal 7:15
How was it for you with your community friends and family? Did they think you lost your mind a bit?

Alex Ferrari 7:20
Well, I did it in a way that I was still doing my old job, which was filmmaking, a filmmaking podcast. So as I did that, I kind of quietly did the show. I launched April of 2021, but only started taking it seriously, seriously in January of 2022, and we had 989 subscribers then, and that's when I said, we're going all in. I'm going to build a set, I'm going to get a camera, I'm going to do this right. And then I started doing three, four episodes a week, just like, just take it seriously, grind it out. And I had no attachment to outcome. But I've lost friends. People fell, as they say, people fell off the game board. New people come onto the game board, and that's just life. It's sad, but it's okay. It's just the way it is. But I was terrified, because I was afraid of losing everything I had built. At that point, it was six years of building up this other business, other world, and then I'm going to be talking to weirdos like yourself

Asil Toksal 8:23
I can totally relate to it,

Alex Ferrari 8:28
But that's exactly just so I'm talking about channeling. I'm talking about psychic phenomenon. I'm talking about ancient mysteries, how the pyramids were built, then quantum physicists. I just had a NASA rocket scientist on the other day talking about spirituality like it started. It was so cool, though. It was all so so cool. And I love going down these roads, and I've always loved these kind of things, but it's a very interesting journey now. Now it's not it, of course, it makes sense. Now, it's easy to look back and go, oh yeah, of course, I had to go do that. But when you're in the moment, it's extremely difficult to to leave an old, an old relationship, to leave an old situation, to live and take that jump in, that risk. But yeah, it was not, it's not easy. And I still, I still, it's funny enough. I still get people who were like, So you found Jesus, is that what you're doing now? I'm like, No, it's not exactly that. I was like, you know, like that. But thenI get other people are like, Hey, I'm very proud of what you're doing. I can't talk about it out here in LA, but keep going. I watch you all the time because they're afraid of coming out in any sort of spirituality in LA or in Hollywood is pretty much frowned upon, which is weird.

Asil Toksal 9:35
Yeah, just imagine me coming from. I mean, just like the circles I had friends, I had

Alex Ferrari 9:41
Austrian, engineer, scientists.

Asil Toksal 9:43
Yeah, that's exactly right. And you know, digital marketer for Fortune 100 500 companies. And so a lot of my circles, former colleagues, friends, they were like, You insane. Are you? Are you? Is everything? Okay? Do you need help? How can. Help you right to come back to your but the thing is, I was still fairly grounded in the experience that was happening to me, and I was holding it with a sense of awe and wonder and curiosity occasionally overwhelm, right? And I did lose some friends and my family definitely had concerns, and it took me some time to really open up to them to what was happening to me.

Alex Ferrari 9:43
I don't mean to cut you off, but when did the channeling start? Because it sounds like you started off on this road. Before that, you start hearing voices. Yes, so how did that work?

Asil Toksal 10:40
So that was about a period of, I want to say, a good year. So I've been on the spiritual journey for a long time. You know, been doing meditation retreats and Zen Buddhism and Taoism. I was always curious about spirituality. So that was always part of my there was a parallel track, right? And at some point I could no longer have a parallel track. I had to really jump off. So that gave me the opportunity to fully focus on my spiritual development. And within basically an eight month, 12 month period, the what I consider the channel, or this connection opened up, and that was around 2017 it started in 2016 but 2017 was kind of like the big the moment, the moment. Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 11:36
What was it like when you first heard the voices? Did you think you were going nuts?

Asil Toksal 11:39
So the funny thing is, you may have an understanding of this, and maybe many of your viewers, if you have done medicine work, yes, plant medicine work, you're familiar with having conversations with spirit. Got it. So it wasn't a complete shock to you. It was not a complete shock. Got it. What was different about it? It was as clear as night and day. It was almost like you and I were having a conversation, and I was having a conversation with an incredibly intelligent being of incredible reverence and light. And I thought I have never experienced this, no matter how much plant medicine work or meditation retreats or intense experience and rituals I've had done this was unique. It felt of a different caliber, a different world had opened up to me that I had not even other people here talk about. So I knew at that moment that it was either jackpot or I was in some sort of trouble,

Alex Ferrari 12:48
Like I'm going straight to hell, or there's something else happening that's that's interesting. I want to ask you, because this is something that a lot of people do talk about. I've had people who, many people on the show done plant medicine and psychedelics and things like that. And that is a form of getting to the other side. There was a guru that came on the show, Swami, who said, when I asked him about plant medicine, he goes, Well, you know, plant medicine is like taking a sledge hammer to the wall to put a window in to get to the other side, where meditation and inner work has a door that's right there, and you could just open it up and walk very easily through it's plant medicine is a very abrupt thing, and he's also said Something very important, I'd love to hear your thoughts. He said that not everyone's ready, physically, mentally or spiritually for what presents itself with plant medicine or psychedelics, because you are opening doors you are crashing through. And it could be life altering. It could it could scare the hell out of you. It can be the most peaceful thing. It all depends on where you are at where with meditation and spiritual inner work, it's a much slower, gradual process to the point where, when you get to that same place, might take you years, but then you could turn it on and off whenever you want without having to take any psychedelic or any plant medicine. What's your thoughts on that?

Asil Toksal 12:55
That's a great perspective. I really appreciate that. And in some ways very similar to mine and my journey was very strongly in the meditation department, Taoist meditation, Buddhist meditation, yogic practices, and I realized that it would take me many, many years. I realized it would take me decades to get to a place that my soul was yearning to get to faster and When consciousness is ready. Me, it will find ways to make that move right. And there were opportunities for me to have experiences that would elevate and expand my consciousness in a way that was definitely stretching the boundaries of what I could receive. But something inside of me was ready for it now. Was it easy? No, very challenging, occasionally destabilizing, overwhelming, occasionally and also physically taxing. So it's definitely not for everyone, but in the right moment, in the right context, in the right environment, with the right guidance, it could be very valuable. Very valuable. Now, does everyone that does medicine, plant medicine work, open up to have a channel or a conversation with angelic beings? No, absolutely not. So something inside of me was primed to be ready and also be supported with that type of work, with the combination of my meditation work, right? So in that combination, doors were opened up for me in an accelerated way.

Alex Ferrari 16:11
It sounds like the you laid down the foundation where it wasn't a sledge hammer, maybe you you were breaking through the drywall in a little bit more constructive way, and it wasn't as abrupt, because the foundation of what you had built prepared you for what was coming, as opposed to someone who has no preparation takes a little bit of plant medicine and, yeah, they're off and running.

Asil Toksal 16:36
It can be very destabilizing for anyone who does not have a spiritual foundation, yeah, absolutely.

Alex Ferrari 16:43
So let me ask you what happened in the Redwood Forest?

Asil Toksal 16:49
The redwoods are so special.

Alex Ferrari 16:50
They are so beautiful. They're so special. Mirror, mirror Woods up there in Northern California. It's just it's a magical, magical place,

Asil Toksal 16:57
Very special. So I was leading a meditation retreat, and at the tail end of it, everyone had already gone to bed, and I was sitting still back outside in the forest. It was, there's like a fog going through the forest. It was kind of a full moon. We picked the full moon weekend. It was beautiful. All the sounds of the night, I'm sitting there by the fire, and I close my eyes, and I feel an energy coming. And it was almost like there was a sound proof dome that was being laid on top of the whole area that I was sitting in. And I thought, wow, this is interesting. I can't hear anything just myself, and my mind was super clear quiet, and I see these lights approaching in my, you know, mind's eye, and one of the lights is moving forward and has this connection with me and starts talking to me just the way you and I talk, and says, you're finally ready, and we can work with you. All the things you have learned have served the purpose, but you won't need them. Going forward, we will prepare you for the role that you're going to play in our gift to humanity. And I'm thinking, Who are you and what do you want? And the voice says, My name is Emmanuel, and I will guide you through this process. And I had no context of what Emmanuel is. I thought, oh, maybe this is like, you know, the spirit of a saint or an Ascended Master, or something of you know, of a past human, but it turns out it was an angelic being. And I thought, Okay, this is a bit much, right. So what do I do with this? He said, You have made an agreement 3000 years ago when you were living as a human that you would serve in this particular way, when the time was right, humanity was right and you were in the right place to deliver. But now that you're consciously aware and you're ready to make that choice, you still have a choice, and we will just leave you alone if you say no, and you can live a normal human life, normal, quote, unquote. And I thought, well, is that gonna make me happy? Is that gonna feel like it's my soul's purpose? I thought about it for three months, and I realized now this is going to be the greatest adventure I'm going to say yes to. And so far, it's been,

Alex Ferrari 19:48
So far, been doing okay, so far. Now you've talked about the different shades of consciousness. Can you talk a little bit about what they are in? And how they influence our perception of our reality.

Asil Toksal 20:04
One of the most significant things for us to understand is we are a collective consciousness having an individualized experience in a physical form that is human consciousness as a collective and we are representations of that collective consciousness, but we are also individualized soul containers. That's the way the guides talk about it. They call it a soul container that carries the information of all the lifetimes you have ever lived in, all the forms you have ever lived, which means there is other physical forms. And you have represented other forms of collective consciousness before. So all these experiences come along in the soul container, and at some point you choose, or somehow you are directed to this experience. And in this experience, you represent human consciousness. Human Consciousness, as a seated consciousness, evolves through the experiences that we are all having as individualized forms and with each other. This evolutionary process is like a school. It's a training ground, it's an incubation chamber for consciousness. So while it is exciting and challenging and all of the things that we imagine it to be, it is a win, win, win. It's a win for you as an individual consciousness and individual soul. It's a win for human collective consciousness, because it grows and evolves, and it's a win for all of consciousness, because if humanity evolves, then all other forms of consciousness are also being influenced and impacted by humanity's growth. Because we are in this giant network of independent and connected collectives.

Alex Ferrari 21:59
It's interesting. So the I've heard this before, where the collective of the human collective are our frequency is rising, and we can all kind of feel something's off on, going on, especially in the last 20 years. Oh yes, it's been exponentially fast that we are consciousness, just like our individual individually you and I, let's say both you and I are Ascended Masters, walking masters. We're not but let's say, you know, you're Jesus, I'm Bucha. Let's throw it out there. Okay, so we're walking up as we are walking the earth. Our frequency is at such a high level that we affect everybody around us, yes, in proximity, you know, like within a certain amount of space, and also collectively, just because of us being here at this time. So if that's the case, then humanity being here at this time as we are raising we are affecting other collectives around the universe, other forms. I mean, anyone who doesn't understand that there are, there is life in this universe, in this massive just the most atheist scientist on the planet, and you are a former scientist, can logically say that there is absolutely a strong chance that there's intelligent life somewhere in this universe at this moment, because there's also, was there intelligent life a billion years ago on this other planet, and is it there now? And all that kind of stuff, but that's but we're raising consciousness for everybody, and vice versa, wherever there's consciousness raising elsewhere, it raises us. But I keep hearing again and again that the Earth experiment is one of the more important ones. Maybe that's ego, I don't know, but that what's happening to humanity now has never happened in the history of humanity, and it's the history of humanity has been around for more than 6000 for more than 6000 years. It's been around for a long time. So all the cycles of ups and downs and stuff, we've never even if we want to go back to Atlantis, where we were more spiritually enlightened than we are now, what's happening now didn't happen then or other times. Would you agree?

Asil Toksal 24:18
Yes, that is in alignment with the information that I'm getting. Okay, so Earth's rising energy is the place that we're in both in the context of our environmental circumstances, basically the cosmological energies rising as well as the rightness or the maturity of our collective consciousness in that combination has never been like this. So we are at the precipice of maturation, awakening, evolution, ascension, whatever you want to call it ascension process, as the guides call it, is a period of time. Where humanity enters a next phase of its final maturation, stage as a consciousness in this form, because there is other forms we will be able to take after this physical form is complete, so it continues. But this stage is the last stage of the physical form. And this is heavy is heavy lifting. This is heavy lifting. Yeah, this is heavy lifting. Because many times we've been quite technologically advanced. We had a lot of understanding of the universe and life itself, but the entire collective wasn't at that level of readiness and the combination of the rising energies, what it does is it gives us the wind for that sail to actually fully move. Everything is accelerating, as you said, people are waking up, left and right, friends, family members that we have never considered spiritual are suddenly having spiritual thoughts and considerations. They're having questions that people would ask when they're, you know, in a Buddhist monastery, even though they have not had any type of inclination of that kind, people are popping left and right like popcorn, and those waves that are coming through are just getting stronger and stronger. And so more and more people are having these experiences of awakening or dark night of the soul, or whatever you want to call it, many different forms of experiences. And for those that don't have any type of foundation, it is becoming very challenging and overwhelming and potentially destabilizing.

Alex Ferrari 26:47
There's a little bit of, not a little bit a lot of chaos going on right now. There's a lot of stuff happening. It's not the first time. I mean, go back to 1968 for God's sakes. I mean, there have been other years in our recent history that was pretty chaotic and even more divisive. I mean, I would argue the Civil War here in the United States was a little bit more divisive than we are now, though we are, I think feeling it more now, because of social media, because of interconnectedness of all those we feel it a lot more. It's more sensitive to it right now, but there is seems to be a lot of a lot of things happening. Old systems are starting to crumble crack. Things that we thought would never, ever, ever go away are now starting to go away. Things that were rock solid are very shaky foundation. Just within the lifetime, our lifetime, how much has changed since the 70s, from where we are now. It's it's mind blowing, mind blowing. What's going on?

Asil Toksal 27:46
So if you look at the trajectory, right, it's not a linear growth, it's an exponential growth, and we are at the hockey stick moment of this exponential growth, meaning we cannot project or extrapolate from the past into what the future is going to look like, because it's Uncharted. It's Uncharted, and it's growing so fast. So if you were to understand what life is going to look like in five or 10 years from now, you'd have a challenging time to imagine what life is going to look like with everything that's happening, right? Not even if you understand what happened in the last five years and 10 years. That's not going to be nearly enough to understand what's going to happen in the next five to 10 years.

Alex Ferrari 28:39
But when we were when we were growing up in the 70s and the 80s. I'm assuming you and I are of similar vintage, if not, you look fantastic so for your age, but I assume we're in the similar vintage that even in the 70s and the 80s, you that statement, you could say, I've no I know what happened in 1970 it's now 1980 I have a good idea where we're going to be in 1990 like there was a trajectory, and you could argue that, you know. But then the internet showed up in the late 90s, and that kind of started to shake things up. And then that, that short that time period, started to change very, very drastically. So from the year 2000 to 2010 knowing what happened from 90 to 2000 really didn't help. And then from 2010 to 2020 for God's sakes. And now, from 2020 to where we are right now, into at the end of 2024, what's happened the last four years? Pandemic, AI, things are so ramped up, so much faster, I can't even imagine, in five years, I really, I have no idea. I mean, I was walking down downtown Austin, I saw a driverless car in Austin, not LA, not New York, not Tokyo, in Austin, a smaller city. And I'm like, what is happening, and our kids growing up at the. Time Period. They're just like, things are moving so fast for them. They're just, you know, it took so much slower.

Asil Toksal 30:06
So let me ask you this, if you as a human being, have relied on society to hold you, yeah, through the time of change, no matter what comes to have a certain level of predictability and to have a certain level of expectation of the future, and if you start to feel you no longer can have that. You no longer can predict. You no longer can fully trust of what is being told is gonna happen. What do you trust? What do you believe? What do you hold on to? What is your core essence as you're walking into the uncertain

Alex Ferrari 30:47
So, if I use that analogy, that means that if we've used the exterior as our, our our anchors, well, when that foundation is rattled, because it's changing so rapidly, if you put your your hook on there, and now the hook is gone. Yeah, go. Wait a minute. What do I go, Oh, here's another hook. Oh, but that's gone now, because you're constantly looking for reaffirming outside of you, the only way we can move forward is looking within, because this doesn't change, right? Not that way. There is a truth. There's an understanding in here, inside of you that is rock solid because it is your soul. It is connected to divine intelligence and divine consciousness, right? And all of that, while all of this, this is just a game, a movie, a play, yeah, a video game. That's all this is.

Asil Toksal 31:37
So how could you hold on to a movie or a game, right? It's you can for a period of time, you can, and it'll be fun, right, right? But there are certain things that I consider as an eternal soul in a human body, there is an aspect of you that is truth, that's eternal, that's unshakable, that's unwavering, that's always existent, and we have just lost that touch. We have started to believe that power is outside of us. We've trusted that as our guiding light. And we are starting to realize, oh, this is not really it, and things like COVID Shake up reality and people's beliefs and other experiences in society do the same thing, and suddenly people start losing trust in the systems that they have trusted in, in the systems that have guided them for lifetimes or multiple generations. Right? So there is a disheartened, disillusioned and an angry state that people come to at first when they are disillusioned in that way, because something they trusted is suddenly falling apart. So what should they trust? Is it religion? Is it pharmaceuticals? Is it plant medicines. Is it? What is it? Is it the next social media influencer? What is it that they should trust? What is it that they can trust? We have lost in some ways, that essential connection, that essential truth and trust inside, right? And so this is therefore a great, challenging time for humanity and a lot of individuals.

Alex Ferrari 33:25
It would be the equivalent of, you know, a video game character who understands their entire world very carefully, but when they run into a wall because the simulation is over. In other words, the programmers didn't go farther because they never had to, and we've reached the end of the game. They're like, Well, what do I do? Is this a movie reference? It is. It isn't a movie reference, but it is Truman Show. It's literally Truman Show at the end of the day, which is one of the, one of the great spiritual movies, yes, of all time. But yeah, when? When Jim Carrey hits the wall at the end. Sorry, it's been around for a while, guys, but yeah, hits and he finally realizes, Oh, that's the edge of his world, literally, the edge of his reality, till he opens the door and goes through to see what's on the other side, arguing that he's going inward during that analogy. But that is, that is the power that I think people are searching that's what they're looking for right now, because I love what you're saying. They're disillusioned with the systems, with the programming, with the things that they've said, this is, this is a table. This is always going to be a table. It's never going to not be a table. You can trust that this is a table. And then quantum physics comes out like, well, there's that's actually not really a solid table. It's actually completely not solid at all. It's a perception that we have, and you're like, Well, what do you what are you talking about? The table solid like, and that starts to rattle people. And that's a small example. There's much larger ones, religion, government, media, pharmaceuticals, health, wellness, all of it, every every aspect of our life is being changed. Challenged, and it's throwing people out of whack. I think that's also one of the reasons why there seems to be a little bit, not a little bit, a lot more chaotic energy happening, because you can't change without challenge. You can't change without some sort of you learn the most in your life in chaotic time.

Asil Toksal 35:20
Yeah, it is what the guides call the impulse or the catalyst, right? And sometimes a solid Challenge is a good impulse or catalyst. And if we are really stuck in our ways, the challenge needs to be solid enough, strong enough, to actually create that awakening spark. Now, will it be challenging in the moment of it? Of course it will. It will make you question everything about life and self and reality, but it will also start and initiate a process of asking the bigger questions. And searching for a sense of peace that is not delivered to you by your external circumstances or external parties right now, that is true. If I put you into a Buddhist monastery somewhere on top of the mountain, you'll probably feel peaceful. It might take you a little while to get there, but eventually the environment will have an effect on you. So we are affected by our environment, no doubt about it, but if I told you, there is a there's a way, there's a pathway for you to find that level of peace you would find, no matter where you are, if you have strengthened and solidified that internal connection so that you can have that power, and nothing else has power over you,

Alex Ferrari 36:48
Just like taking a portable temple with you, a monastery with you, everywhere you go

Asil Toksal 36:52
And the temple is inside. As many of these masters have said,

Alex Ferrari 36:57
Yes many of them have said the same thing again and again,

Asil Toksal 37:00
Yeah, it's like, I'm not saying anything new. The guides even said that, you know, many of their channelings, they said, This is not news. This is information you've got many, many times. And the really close friend of mine was sitting in one of the channelings once, and he has, we have this Q and A with Emmanuel. And he says, Emmanuel, this is all very nice. And also, we've heard this many, many times. What do we need you for? Like to hear this again? And Emmanuel says, You've heard it, but clearly you haven't implemented it, and you need to hear it again. That is why. And that was the message.

Alex Ferrari 37:42
That's a good message. It's a good message. There's something that you said the other day when I was doing research for you that I thought was so profound and so important for people to listen to because so many people want life to be unchallenging. They don't want they want nice and peace. They want everything to be cool. I want all my relationships. They want no no ripples in the waves. They want a nice smooth sailing. And you gave the analogy of nature, that in nature, there is nothing but challenge. Anyone who's been out in nature with only a backpack, hiking, camping. You know, how many movies have we seen where you know you're it's you against nature. Nature is designed every day to challenge the occupants of nature, bugs, animals, birds, fish and us, animals, humans, if we've just been able to because of our own intellect, been able to create these beautiful things that protect us from nature, these clothes, the how the roof over our head, able to get clean water, all these things that we take for granted in the West, not at all around the world, but let's say in the West, or in developed countries, is Because of our intellect. So that kind of gives us the illusion that everything should just be exactly as peaceful and it's perfect. This temperature is just right in here. But that's not the way nature works. So can you talk a little bit about that and the importance of learning that lesson? Because so many people like, Why do bad things happen to good people, because that is part of the process. What would you say?

Asil Toksal 39:25
It is definitely part of the design. So nature is designed in a certain way to basically create the most optimal outcome and also guarantee consistent evolution, consistent growth through trial and error, as well as pushing the boundaries of what is possible in this environment. At the same time, nature provides everything you need, everything we have, everything you look around, everything is from here, everything is from Earth. I would assume I say, I always say that too. We may have some artifacts in the side room, but yeah, we talked about that another time.

Alex Ferrari 39:57
That yes, my visitations, yes, go ahead.

Asil Toksal 40:03
So nature provides, and at the same time, nature challenges, yeah, and anything that isn't aligned, nature will take apart and recycle just, just the way nature does its work. And everything is an ecosystem that supports itself and each other, and some of these ecosystems require, you know, beings, to be part of the food chain and part of the development chain and part of the reproduction chain and so on. So there is, like, these incredibly vast and well designed and intricate ecosystems that consistently provide humans, we have created a little bit of our own ecosystems that is beyond the biological ecosystems, that is now technological, societal ecosystems and consciousness ecosystems, and in those there is a slightly different path for us, while nature provides the baseline in what we have created in these ecosystems, we are evolving as a soul, as a consciousness. We are learning, we are making mistakes. We are being challenged by our reality, and that is occasionally painful. It is bringing up all kinds of the full spectrum of emotions, and it the game is not to try to avoid the challenge. It is understanding, how do we evolve as efficiently and as gracefully as possible. It used to be that through many cycles, we made the same mistakes over and over again until we learned them right. You know the story about the person that keeps on dating the same person over and over and over and complaining about that? I always get these same guys Right, right? So if in life challenges persist, a certain learning has not completed. Now we could continue for 1000s of years doing this game that's been fueling our consciousness evolution, but there is a different way for consciousness to evolve. And you'd ask, well, what is that way? And can I have it bottled up on the shelf? How much you want for it? The truth is, we have an intrinsic way with our consciousness to evolve, rather than manifesting it into reality. We don't have to manifest challenges to evolve through the learning, but in order to do that, we have to face the unlearned, the unprocessed in states of meditation, in states of silence and deep presence. When we start to face these things, when we start to look at these things from all different angles, all different perspectives. What emerges is a realization, and these realizations are almost like check marks in the soul or in our consciousness that say, Okay, we don't have to recreate this any longer. Check soul learning unlocked. What's the next one? Oh, there is some ancestral learning that hasn't completed. Let's go that down that rabbit hole, right? So we have kind of created so much external distraction for ourselves that we've lost that simple ability to find silence and presence. People lose their minds doing a five minute meditation, right, right? They're like, Oh, I have so many thoughts, so many emotions. It's so overwhelming. I can't do this. Meditation is not for me. I'm like, don't call it meditation. Just sit in silence by yourself, sit in nature and do this a couple times, and do it longer and longer and see what happens. You'll start to see that people actually start to change. They start to develop. They start to understand things, and their lives become more and more stable, and their evolution takes an acceleration or an accelerated process, without having to go through the pains of consistently recreating reality to wake up like it when reality consistently recreates a challenge or a pain or an impulse, for you, it's like A smack in your face. It's like, wake up, right? So we can have that without it,

Alex Ferrari 44:47
Through meditation, for example. What are some other ways?

Asil Toksal 44:51
Breath work, the yogic practices, just pure silence in nature, plant medicine, work helps too. You. There's many different ways of getting to that place of silence and presence, so that we can have an observational state, so we can have the realizations, and then we can have a greater alignment internally. The stronger your alignment is, the more unwavering you are as these consistent waves of energy are moving through the Earth. We no longer look at all the planets and the stars and say, oh my gosh, again, a planet in retrograde, it's going to mess up my week. All right. Say, Oh, my internal alignment is good. It's strong. I don't really care if there is another solar flare.

Alex Ferrari 45:41
But with that said, though it's kind of like what you're talking about is a version of you being disconnected from this realm to a certain extent. And maybe I'm not wording it properly, because I'm fighting not to use the matrix as a reference point, because I do it so often. But when you have a person or a Master who is so connected to their source, so grounded their vibration, so high walking around in this reality, they just, they just see the code. So they're able to not only manipulate the code, but the code doesn't affect them, kind of like the bullets flying by Neo he's able to, they just don't do anything to him anymore, because his rules have changed. Now that's at an extreme level. Means a master level, yes, but even on a smaller level, there's things now that would have taken me off the reservation, which now bounce off me like nothing. It just rolls off my back. Yeah, you know someone cutting you off in traffic when I was in my 20s, is like, I need to now chase this guy down, go to his house and yell at him, you know, like Insanity, Insanity stuff, but now, when someone cuts you off, to a certain extent, I'm human still, but generally speaking, you go, I wonder what's going on in his life or in her life that caused her to act that way? That's how I look at it. Now, a little bit differently. So that's the a smaller example. Does that make sense?

Asil Toksal 47:22
Absolutely, absolutely. So strong alignment means literally, the external circumstances are no longer having the same effect that they used in the past. So you navigate them more gracefully, because there is no additional learning for you in them, they don't have a charge. Does that make sense?

Alex Ferrari 47:41
Yeah, of course, because now that you have you've lifted five pounds again and again. Exactly. You can lift five pounds, it doesn't bother you anymore. To the point where five pounds shows up, you're just like, I don't even want to lift it, because I've lifted it so many times, it doesn't affect me.

Asil Toksal 47:54
So think about memories of the past, right? Think about memories of the past. Some memories will stand out with an emotional charge, absolutely right, yeah. And if it's a really unprocessed element of your life, it'll stand out with a strong emotional charge. If the emotional charge is so strong, some people will even like, put it into the unconscious layers. They'll put the bury it. Yeah, right, oh, yeah. Now that doesn't go away. It will consistently send signals to reality and say, well, this, this learning needs to be had. So give us a reality that will spark a learning of this unprocessed past, and it is painful to watch.

Alex Ferrari 48:43
I've never heard it put that way before. It's so it's so eloquently and beautifully packaged that idea. Because, if you're right, because exactly what happened to me a million and million other people as well. So you had had a very traumatic episode when I was a younger man, and that actually stayed buried. I actually had forgotten about it, and had no conscious understanding that it was happening. Only when I started to write my book, my first book about it, did it start to bubble up, and all these emotions started to come up. I'm like, Oh, wow, oh, wow. Like, I had no idea it was still there, but subconsciously had been driving my entire life. And you look back and going, Oh, that's why I kept doing that. Oh, that's why that kept coming into my life. These kind of people kept coming into my life, because that was not processed. So finally, when I released the book, or actually when I finished the first draft, it was just like it released before. I couldn't even talk about it. Now, I talk about it constantly, and I have no problem with it so it doesn't have the same charge as it was before. But I love the idea that if you have something in your past, they have not resolved. You haven't done the work. You might have put it in a box, slammed it into the but whatever you did. Hide it so far that you can't even remember it. It sends signals to reality, to this to the simulation, to go, Hey, this one still needs to learn this lesson, and he is not really hearing you, so I need you to intensify it by 20% every single time you do it. And if he really doesn't get it, we're gonna have to hit him with a sledge hammer. Correct?

Asil Toksal 50:25
That is, that is pretty much right. And you know what's fascinating everything, the way we see reality, our perception, the truth that we believe, the habits that we have formed, the behaviors we have, everything is influenced by the elements of the unprocessed past.

Alex Ferrari 50:41
And of course, of course, everything is everything. Is everything. So all the way we well, that's the thing with the way we look at life is based on our programming. Yeah, our programming is based on how we were, how we were programmed for the first seven years our life. That that's the basic operating system. And then all of the experiences are, are the apps we download throughout our life, and they keep getting tossed in there, but that basically views our that's our view of the entire world is based on all that stuff,

Asil Toksal 51:08
All our attachments, everything that's right and wrong, all our judgments, our opinions, everything is flavored by that.

Alex Ferrari 51:14
And when you release all of that, you start to lighten your load. One but I keep going back to like a yogi or a master of some sort, you know, hearing their stories of how they evolved and reached enlightenment. And then, because there's one thing to reach enlightenment, it's another thing to be enlightened and still live here. Because once you feel enlightened and you're like, Oh, I'm free. That's That's awesome. But to be able to work within the world with that new frequency, that enlightenment. I imagine that these lovely souls who are on the wall here when they reach that level of enlightenment or self realization, all of the things we're talking about just vanished, all the programming, all the traumas, all the experience, all that kind of stuff that focused your understanding of reality goes away, because then the truth actually comes out, and everything pops up. I'm like, I'm doing a session with you right now. Seal. I'm walking I'm working through stuff right now myself, and hopefully people are listening, because it just makes so much beautiful sense as that, as that starts to warn away, the truth comes out, and that truth is so truth, you can't deny it, and that then changes your perception. So a lot of these yogis, like the Maharishi and these kind of beings who were on the planet, or Yogananda, who have, just recently, last, within the last 100 years, where we have film of them. We have recordings of them. We could hear them. The way they look at life is so far beyond our normal day to day. I can you believe what Susie said about me? Because that doesn't exactly that doesn't make sense

Asil Toksal 52:54
When you know no when you no longer have strong judgments and strong perceptions of right and wrong the valuation of duality so you hold a non dual perception perspective that you now hold in this dualistic form, in this dualistic ego construct that needs to interact with its dualistic reality and humans. How do you bring that non dual way of being while being relatable as a human, because humans will want to understand like, Okay, give me a perspective. But when they give you a perspective the moment it is verbalized, it's already dualized, of course, the moment exactly the moment something is put into words, it's already narrowed down to a certain meaning between what I mean and what you understand. There is also another loss of information. So truth is really unspeakable, correct? It's a knowing. It's a knowing. And one time, there was one famous quote in in my consciousness about the guy. It's that, you know, when they shared something, they said, truth is the totality of all perspectives, therefore everything we say is also merely a perspective.

Alex Ferrari 54:15
It's beautiful. That is beautiful. So truth is a knowing, it is. And you're absolutely right. You can't verbalize it, almost. It's very difficult to verbalize the knowing. But that is commonplace on the other side, in the other area, when you were soul, when you that's just, I hear it from near death experiencers. They go on the other side, and they'll go, I just knew everything. I was just connected to, I call it connecting to the spiritual cloud, right to the conscious cloud, the collective up there. You just, what's quantum physics? Oh, that's what it is. Okay, you know, how do you Oh, that's how you create free energy. Okay, great. Like it just, it's there instantly. But when they come back, they can't bring it back because our operating, our hardware, can't handle it. Okay? Mm, hmm, it's too much. But over there, there is no friction, there is no physical matter. This way. This is a very dense scenario. This is tough.

Asil Toksal 55:11
It is. So I don't blame these masters to say, Well, I'm enlightened. I'm gonna head out here. This is, this is all very complex and complicated and dualistic, and I'm gonna continue my work from the others and not non Dual Side, right? And some masters, you know, they stay on top of the mountain, and they continue praying for humanity from that place, because they say there's nothing I could share verbally that's gonna make it better than my meditation here on top of the mountain for humanity like a Baba Ji. Yeah, exactly, yeah. Like a Baba Ji, the Tibetan monks praying, you know, for humanity, or that's interesting.

Alex Ferrari 55:45
So, so a lot of these, a lot like, you know, on our on our platform, we have a show called Road to dharma, where they went to the Himalayas. They followed one Yogi on a motorcycle, and 10 people went on this amazing road trip. And I was asking the filmmaker behind, he was also on, he was one of the participants. I go, What did you see when you're driving up? Like, what is it? He's like, it's mostly Buddhist, some Taoist, but a lot of Tibetan Buddhism is up in the Himalayas. A lot of Tibetan Buddhism. And he goes, everyone's a seeker, because it's too difficult to just hang out in the Himalayas. Like it's a thing to China Journey Through it all, and it's that nature is so brutal, and the Himalayas are a challenge in itself. So you're not going to go just, I'm just going to chill. There's not a lot of tourists. Everyone's there for a reason, but they he said you would just see these monks and these monasteries, and they live their life there, and they're praying for not only their own enlightenment, but they're doing it for humanity, absolutely. And they're creating that vibration, sending that out into the world which is more powerful than them trying to articulate because that might not be in their wheelhouse,

Asil Toksal 57:00
Or trying to convince people of a different understanding or perspective or belief system of live your life this way. It'll be better for you when someone's consciousness isn't ready, oh, they won't even be able to hear you, of course. So they rather affect the collective from a different layer and different approach.

Alex Ferrari 57:19
So then and then you and I are at a very different place, because we're trying to affect the collective from inside the house, like the phone calls coming from inside that yes, kind of thing we're doing our work to help the collective, but from this level, it's just a different, different point of view.

Asil Toksal 57:36
Yeah, there's a couple of other ways that that we are also doing, and I'll share more about that if you're interested. Please, please. So when the guides started to work, when they said, Look, humanity is going through a major awakening process, there are certain ways we're going to assist humanity. Human we cannot fix humanity's problems. This is not our job. Humanity has to fix its own problems, and has to learn we cannot take that away. What we can do is support those that are in awakening process to accelerate the process for them to make it a bit easier. Okay, so one of the things I said humanity, as it's going through a major awakening. Humans will question and they're going to need support. So that journey will take people on the journey of becoming a pillar of light, aligned beings unwavering, those people that when goes down the community, looks towards that person to see how they're responding to the external challenge. That's a pillar of light.

Alex Ferrari 58:47
Interesting. Okay, hence these

Asil Toksal 58:49
Exactly, hence the it's like, you know, the famous thing, what would Buddha do? Or what would Jesus do? Yeah, right, that's exactly,

Alex Ferrari 58:57
If Jesus gets cut off in traffic, exactly if he loses his crap. Yes, that's a problem, fair game.

Asil Toksal 59:06
The other thing they said was the humanity as a consciousness is on earth, and the Earth has a consciousness itself, and the Earth's grid is basically its energy lines that are holding all consciousness on Earth in a safe environment and an energetic field. So a lot of sacred sites are on the connection points in the intersections of these energy lines, nodes, right? And humanity has built temples and churches and mosques and all kinds of pyramids on top of these nodal points to utilize that energy.

Alex Ferrari 59:47
How did they know where those points were?

Asil Toksal 59:49
Yeah, that's a good question. You know, in a simplest way, obviously, there's a lot of masters and priests that were dedicated their entire life to connect with. Spirit, and no spirits guiding us to do build a temple here. We have very limited resources. It's gonna take us 1000 years to do this, but let's do it anyways, and they do it, or it'll be humans go to that place and they realize that they heal faster at those places, that something inside of them delivers a spiritual peace that they don't have in other areas of so there is a uniqueness. Nature responds differently in those areas. So they consider them naturally sacred places. Indigenous cultures would go to the summit of a particular volcano and would bring offerings. They will not allow anyone else to go up there, except the priests, right? Things like that. They're considered sacred sites. Now, a lot of these sacred sites have been used and utilized and abused and dormant and active and inactive. The Grid supports consciousness, and the work that the guides are telling me to do, or us as a community to do, is basically Earth keeping how do we adjust and attune these places to the highest possible frequency they can hold so they can support the entire region that they are in and this whole grid to support whole of humanity. Because not everyone is going to have the luxury of seeing your podcast or seeing some of my meditations. Some people will just be living the human life. They will also go to an awakening process. But what will be there in their field to support them? At the very minimum, at the baseline, it is the earth grid. The Earth itself as a consciousness, will support humanity in its awakening. So that's another piece of the work. So it's a top down and bottom up, you know,

Alex Ferrari 1:01:58
Scenario, yeah, yeah. I mean, that's what grounding is so important when you actually physically grind ground yourself in nature and in sand and the actual ground, the scientific aspect of it is the magnet, the energy to charge, helps you heal faster, helps you get rid of inflammation, all these kind of things. Hence why in nature, generally speaking, animals don't have those kind of diseases, cancers and things like that, unless they're affected by something that we did, right? Oh, you know, or they're dear nuclear power plant or something those lines that's very, very powerful. One thing you've talked about in the past as well is Taoist mysticism. I we haven't really delved into a lot of Taoist teachings in the show, which I'm going to remedy soon. I have a couple of masters coming, because it's such a powerful, powerful philosophy and school of thought. But I've never heard of Taoist mysticism. I've heard of, obviously, the laotus and and and the the Tao Te Ching, and that the basis of the of Taoism. To my understanding, what is Taoist mysticism,

Asil Toksal 1:03:10
What's interesting to me, the reason I was so excited and drawn to Taoism was Taoists, to me, were like scientists. They're scientists, and they wanted to explore things by trial and error as well as, of course, guided by spirit. But they were mathematicians, they're astronomers, they were healers. You know, all these different things that came out of Taoism influenced all aspects of our current life most people aren't aware of, but there was one thing that they were aiming towards, and that was immortal life. And some of that was guided by, you know, the kings and the Emperors that lived that basically said, I want to live immortally. Show me how it's done. Here is 10,000 people you can experiment on, you know, and so they would create all these different pathways of practices, inner Qigong, neigon, to figure out how energy within the body can be stored, developed, manipulated, directed to get to A place of greater health and longevity and immortality. So that was kind of like their pathway to figuring out what this body can do and what the Spirit can do. I was drawn to that because there is very few true, authentic Taoist masters left that still teach many of them have withdrawn, or the Cultural Revolution in China has extinguished several lineages, and all of that mysticism was kind of buried. What they allowed to exist was like the more scientific. Societally acceptable pieces, right? But in many ways, it still is available, and it has definitely guided me in my pathway. To a certain degree, it started to become a little too rigid for me. I needed to have an input from an intelligence that is greater than human intelligence. Just imagine it this way, as I was going through my process, when channel started opening and they said we're gonna have to work on you for a year for you to be even be ready to get the first step in. Said, Okay, I would go through five, six meditations a day to just being operated on, right? It's like upgrades of upgrades. And I'm trying to understand what is happening to me. What is this thing that you guys are? Because I have some context from Taoist meditations and yogic practice. I'm like, Oh, this seems similar to, like, you know, couple body breathing, and this is similar to the pranayama, and this is similar to this, and this is similar they said, if you have to understand everything that we're doing to this very complex system that you have, and you have to basically be okay with it and approve it, we will never get done. It'll take forever. You have to have a certain level of baseline trust that we are in a very clear understanding of the totality of this human machine and this form that you are, and we are doing the best possible in the most benevolent and effective way to your being. And so I had to develop a certain trust to a great intelligence than my own, and let them do what they needed to do, rather than trying to own it and dominate it with my mind.

Alex Ferrari 1:06:50
Hence, the burning of the bridge, burning of the boats, is just taking the leap of faith. Yes, faith has a lot to do with all of this, doesn't it? It does. It's scary. It's very it's very scary to have faith into in I think the scariest thing that people have faith in is within themselves. To have faith in yourself is probably the scariest, I think one of the scariest kinds of faith to have, because when you put your faith in an exterior deity or master or somebody in a white coat, or someone in the government, or someone at a job. When you put the power in somebody else's hands, it's a lot more comfortable, of course, generally speaking,

Asil Toksal 1:07:31
Because you can hold them accountable. You can blame it on them,

Alex Ferrari 1:07:33
Right! But to have faith within yourself is very not only scary, but if you look at anyone who's ever accomplished anything in this lifetime, they've always had faith in themselves, every great athlete, every great entrepreneur, every great artist, not all of them, but many artists, had faith in themselves, or at least had enough faith in themselves to do the art, regardless if It would actually go anywhere like Van Gogh, perfect example of an artist who just painted and paint and painted without ever knowing where it was going to go. But faith is such a powerful thing, can you kind of dig in? You know? What are the guides say about that aspect of it? Because everyone listening to this conversation needs to understand that they have to eventually have faith that the power is within themselves, which is terrifying. If you've been programmed the hardest thing, yeah, it's the because you've been programmed all your life, that no, no, the power is outside of you, and we're gatekeepers, and we'll help you get there. But real masters don't do that. Real masters say, no, no, you are. It's in here.

Asil Toksal 1:08:44
Are you familiar with the understanding of projection? So if I project onto you who I believe you to be, and if your projection or your internal alignment, your internal strength, isn't very solidly established, and my projection will make you feel a certain way. You'll say, Oh, I feel judged in this person's presence. I don't feel so good. I feel less than in this person's i right. So that's projection, and the positive power of projection is if I see something much, much greater in you than you can ever see in yourself. Then you will feel in my presence elevated and uplifted, right, correct. I'll see something in you that you almost don't believe it's possible, yeah, and in that sense you want to believe it, or something inside of you is fighting it, but you give it a chance, and over time, what happens is something inside of you starts to change, and you start to believe my projection to be true. So people with strong projection fields are very powerful people, because. Have influence on those with less strong projection fields. The question is, what is your projection shaped by, what type of energy and what type of internal alignment, and is it fueled by pure unconditional love?

Alex Ferrari 1:10:14
So a dictator has that power because to be able to convince millions of people to do something, you need to have some power of projection, just like the Maharishi, yes, had the same power, yes, but he did it for good, out of love, to elevate humanity. That's right, makes sense.

Asil Toksal 1:10:36
Absolutely, absolutely. So if I say that you hold a great power in you, a power that is deriving from the seed of creation, of seed of creators, right? And that creators want you to be able to own that power and become a creator yourself. They don't want to be worshiped. They want you to become a fully evolved, conscious creator yourself. And say, oh, man, that sounds like hard work, right? And how am I gonna get there if I can't even get through morning traffic in Austin,

Alex Ferrari 1:11:23
I got stuff to do. I don't have time for evolution and enlightenment Sir.

Asil Toksal 1:11:27
Exactly. So in that sense, if I have faith in you right over time, that will develop a faith in yourself in the beginning, if you don't have it yet right now, of course, you could say like, well, I have faith that I can, you know, do this. I have faith that I can face following challenges. I have faith that I can, you know, move through this section of life because I've done it in the past. But I feel, and this is the sense that I'm getting about the future, is that we're going to have unprecedented challenges, challenges that are so big that it will challenge the core of our being, of our existence. If you don't have faith in that type of period, what will you be able to rely on? So it is really important to develop humans that have strong alignment and have really strong self projection fields. Meaning, how do you see yourself? Do you see yourself as capable possible, as a creator, as loving as loved. And so in our work, in our training, it is about developing that self projection field. And until that is established, I assist with the guides on sharing that projection field onto you. Does that make sense? Makes perfect sense? Because in the beginning I had no faith. I was just like, in I just work here exactly. I was just thrown into the pit, and they said, Well, this is the plan that we have. I said, Well, I don't know if I should believe this. What if this is all a scam? What if I'm being like, misguided to be whatever, like, the mind was going crazy, and so I was just following the steps because they had so much faith in me. They that projection field unto me was consistently of an unconditionally loving and present sense. It was unwavering. And because of that, I could start to trust not only them, but the process and eventually myself.

Alex Ferrari 1:13:47
Well, it's kind of what a good parent does to their child. You believe in them when they don't believe in themselves, exactly, you know, having kids myself, I understand that sometimes they start beating themselves up, and you're like, No, I see greatness in you. I see that you can make the baseball team. I think you can make the JV, basketball team. I think when they can't see it, you see it in them, and you literally, you're not even BS, ing, you clearly see that they're capable. And that's what the projection is, and that's where they start to rise to what they're expected to do, or they start to believe that they can do it.

Asil Toksal 1:14:30
You know, there is experiments with actual plants like this. Tell me, well, people projecting love, oh, yeah, and the idea of beauty and perfection and provided for to plans, they will actually grow faster. They will actually become more vibrant and more vital. So we have this power within us that we can use. Us to either diminish or challenge our environment, which serves a different purpose, but it serves a purpose, or we can learn to truly hold that projection of a positive kind for ourselves, and we can hold that projection for humanity, and the projection is really I hold the projection of potential. It's not that you will never face challenge, not that I want your challenges to just go away, but I hold that projection of potential that you can do it because I believe in you, because I believe you are infinitely resourced, because I trust that you are infinitely supported and loved through it all that is ultimate faith. But without the I'm not sourcing this faith from somewhere else. It's coming from him here. Does that make sense?

Alex Ferrari 1:16:03
It makes perfect sense in an extremely powerful place, because it is a foundation that cannot be shaken. Yes, no matter where you are in the world, it can't be taken away. It can't be taken away at all. I mean, nothing anyone could do from the exterior. Could ever hence, hence this. Ever do that? Because it is, it is a no, it's we're back to it's annoying. You know, I have absolutely, as you're talking, in my in my head, I'm going absolutely like I understand that I'm I'm being guided. I understand that I'm being protected. I understand that I'm being I have endless resources for any thing that comes across, our, our, our path, and I just again, just being around, walking the planet for as long as I have. You just look back at your life and go, How the hell did I make it through that, especially in your teenage years. How the hell did I make it through that? Or, good lord, like I almost died that day. Like, how did I not die? How did we even make it up? Well, how do we make it out of the 80s? Good question as as general bad haircuts, with bad haircuts and no seat belts, drinking water out of a hose, you know, not filtered water and things like that. How do we survive? Is beyond me, but you look back and you just go there, there's something there that guided me. There was multiple times that when I was driving, when I was a kid, that I should have died in certain like scenarios. But there was something there that kind of just missed it or just pushed it back, you know. And you look back and go, there, there's just no way, you know. And then, as I mean this whole thing, what we're doing here is, obviously, I'm not in control of this. This makes no sense. So then you start going, oh, there's so there's no, there's no, there's no wavering in my understanding of that. For me, because I've been it's been proven like I guess, I guess for you too, it has been proven again and again and again to the point where now your logical mind goes, well, there's got to be something going on here. Even your scientific Austrian engineer in mind

Asil Toksal 1:18:12
Exactly even that one

Alex Ferrari 1:18:14
Right at a certain point like you kept seeing so much that you just like, well, this just has to be right, absolutely, yeah, you just keep going down that road, um with um with enlightenment, which is some as if one of those words that a lot of people use, they're like, I want to be enlightened. I want to get you know another version of that self realization. What are some of the I some of the common elements that all of these these beings went through, they all have very different paths to walk as you and I have very different paths we're walking. But what are the commonalities of what happens when you start to reach these higher frequencies, and what can we do to tap into those things as we so we can start raising ours

Asil Toksal 1:19:01
When we start to go on a path of self realization or healing or growth or evolution, first we'll start to meet a lot of pain. It will start to meet a lot of unprocessed we'll start to meet, you know, the the ugly things. You know, it's stored in the basements of our consciousness, stored in our ancestry. Even if you go like two, three generations back in everyone's ancestry, there is war, rape, pillage, right? Everything is in there. We carry it because the past generations haven't processed it yet. So whatever they couldn't process, they handed it over to the next generation as a gift, as a gift, inheritance. Good luck. We tried everything we could. This is we couldn't do this. You know, it's now on you, so we carry a lot of that, and the journey to self realization will have a moment of okay, this is a lot that I need to process, and a lot to heal, a lot to understand. And observe integrate, and over time, as I'm integrating, a new sense of self is starting to establish within me. This sense of self is beyond the ego construct. It is beyond the image that I have of the person that is living this lifetime. The sense of self is beyond any thought I have of myself. It is a sense of being that is eternal. So in this journey, I will enter states of being that are beyond identity, that are beyond space and beyond time. Does that make sense? It makes sense. So in these expanded states of consciousness, which you enter, when you meditate a lot, when you do the type of consciousness expanding experiences, the question is, when you go to these states, you can go to a lot of states. We have many ways to go into different expanded states of consciousness in this day and age, much easier than ever. How much of it can you actually bring back and how much of it actually changes permanently? The greater the delta is between the expanded state of consciousness and our standard operational state of consciousness, the harder it's going to be to return, because you're going to see, oh my god, I saw what it can be like, and this is where I am. Oh, wow, this is going to be a lot of work. Some people develop patterns of addiction to return back to these states with the mechanisms or tools that take them there without ever changing the standard over time, permanently. So our standard way of consciousness and our frequency, as you said, our daily frequency, wants to establish and change consistently. And as this changes, our way of seeing reality changes as well. I start to see everything more non dually. I start to see purpose in everything. I start to see everything is connected to everything, and everything is supporting everything. And no matter how I feel about something, no matter what my mind brings as an evaluation or a thought or an interpretation of the moment, if I can just be in a state of observation and presence, I can be with that moment no matter how hard it is. So that is some of the greatest teachings of the Self Realization journey.

Alex Ferrari 1:23:03
Beautifully said, beautifully said. Now I see, I want to see if we can do a little bit of a channeling session here today. We probably can. So can you talk to tell everybody what your process is, how you do it, and what you feel when you're doing it, like, are you there? You're not there. Do you remember when you come back? You see everything? How does it work for you?

Asil Toksal 1:23:25
So I'm considered an energy channel. Okay, so there is in the spectrum of trans channeling, there is everything from Intuition the lightest form to full body possession, like a Siberian shaman being taken over for like, Seth back in the day, for example. Yeah, right. So which means spirit controls the entire body. The host has no recollection of what happened, and they don't have literally control. So that's why we call it the possession, not an embodiment, an embodiment I still have agency, right?

Alex Ferrari 1:24:03
And possession is with permission, correct?

Asil Toksal 1:24:06
Yeah. So I possession has, it's a loaded word, exactly. So I allow the possession to happen, and I just don't have agency. The other side has agency to separate. Does that make sense? Yes. So where are you? I'm in embodiment states, okay, so in the embodiment state, my upper body is operated, and I can interrupt and disconnect at any point. I'm fully conscious, but my consciousness is separated, almost like I'm viewing myself from, you know, six feet behind, sure, and so I'm in this state of just observing as the words are coming through. I don't even know what they're going to say. I only see the next word formulating and coming through. It's like a stream of consciousness, exactly, okay? And my body goes through, you know, this energy body was. Developed and established into what I would consider like a technology that extended the hardware, right so they can actually deliver incredible amounts of energy through this form. So the word channeling, the spoken channelings, are just 2% of my work, the true work happens in the energetic channeling and the type of energetic adjustments that the guides deliver to the audience and to the people that are part of this journey.

Alex Ferrari 1:25:31
And even people watching this from now, they will feel something 100% okay. And how does it make you feel, physically when you're done, you weaken, or your ERGs are energized. I'm energized. Yeah, it doesn't drain you,

Asil Toksal 1:25:46
Not anymore. In the beginning, it used to, because, again, the delta of their energetic connection, or the energetic frequency they hold, versus where my standard was, was so wide that in the returning I was exhausted, of course, right? But over time, as my body developed, when I connect, it's no longer depleting. It feels energizing,

Alex Ferrari 1:26:15
Beautiful. All right, let's and are they going to is it going to be manual, or is it going to be the guides?

Asil Toksal 1:26:21
First! It'll be the Elohim, most likely, because they come in to give, like, a wide perspective and a preamble kind of thing, and then Emmanuel comes in to answer questions, but he may also have a couple words to say beforehand. He's an MC. He's the MC. He is an ambassador, right? He's He's a spokesperson, very kind, very loving, and he has had human experiences, so he can relate to the human experience, to the human condition,

Alex Ferrari 1:26:48
Right. And that's very specific. That's something that doesn't happen often, correct. A lot of times, energies that come through, or consciousness has come through, have never had an incarnation. Yes, human or otherwise, yes.

Asil Toksal 1:27:00
But, and you know, what's fascinating is he actually had to go through the same experience that we had to go through. He had no recollection that he was an angelic being having a human experience, interesting.

Alex Ferrari 1:27:11
So he's an angelic being or a soul, he's an angelic being. So he was an so there are angelic beings that have incarnations.

Asil Toksal 1:27:19
Yes, they get like an exceptional pass occasionally, but Archangels don't do it. They don't enter into the incarnation. Michael and Metatron are not coming down, no, not in this form, not in this form. But what's fascinating to me is the deduction that I had from that is anyone you interact with could be an angelic being in disguise. You wouldn't know. Isn't that a beautiful thought.

Alex Ferrari 1:27:43
That is absolutely Well, I think I met a couple of them along the way. Yeah, I bet you, because they seem to be a lot of times they're there for somebody looking for help. And when you give them the help, there's just this shine in their eye like you passed. You know, these kind of kind of things you run into first, first thing that popped in my head when you said angelic beans, having human experiences. Nicolas, Cage and City of Angels, you know, totally it was like an angel who wanted a human experience to be with his love. Yes, you know it that wings of a wing of Wings of Desire, the original Frenchman, oh yeah, which is so good? Peter Falk, oh so good. Sorry. I can geek out forever. I apologize.

Asil Toksal 1:28:27
I love references. All right, so my body will go through convulsions and contractions. The energy center of the body is just below the navel. So that's what's called the hara in Japanese, or the dantian in Chinese, or the sacral chakra. And like Indian traditions, and interesting enough, the guides are utilizing the existing energetic network that's in my body, and the contractions build an energy for my system to be ready, and then there is a connection, and that's when they start. Okay? So my hands will go into, like, different mudras. I don't control that. It's just opening certain energies and tuning in a certain way and so on.

Alex Ferrari 1:29:16
But once you settle in, you settle in. It's not like, Yeah, from what I've seen,

Asil Toksal 1:29:19
There will be very subtle movements, you know, just to not be like very robotic, because they also want this to be relatable for other humans, rather than a human having an experience with a statue.

Alex Ferrari 1:29:33
Fair enough, right? Fair enough, yeah, okay, all right, all right, let's rock and roll.

Asil Toksal 1:29:39
Greetings. We are. Elohim, this journey that you have embarked on as a human being is in a great transformational process. You are recognizing that you are significantly more than the individualized life that you have been living. That this identity that has formed in this current time, in this current timeline, allows you to perceive life in a specific angle, in specific circumstances, yet the soul that you are has lived many lifetimes and perceives life in significantly expanded ways. The part of your soul that is able to perceive life and reality from this non dual perspective can and will be activated as the energies on this earthly plane rise your perception of reality, and your experience of reality will as a result of this change, yet not without challenge the mind itself, the conditions, the perspectives, the unprocessed past will desire to be understood and realized so you can truly hold the expanded states of consciousness that are fueled by the rising energies of this earth. You are significantly more than you perceive to be as the complexities of your being would overwhelm and challenge the mind, only the most necessary aspects of reality will be delivered to your conscious awareness. Yet this too is an expansion, and your conscious awareness is capable of perceiving more than it used to through practice, through presence, your perception of reality. Expands. Your perception of self expands. You start to notice the infinite nature of reality, the eternal aspect of your being, the unconditional love of creation. You start to understand that life itself, even in its temporary nature, holds endless moments, chained together for true exploration and realization, the ascension process of humanity will carry an accelerated process for all humans. Changes are part of life, yet the accelerated nature of change will challenge the mind the heart, as well as the physical form, societal constructs and the ecosystems established that will not withstand the test of time. Yet, you are supported. You are guided, and in this delivery, there is a word of encouragement, of empowerment, of possibility, that you are not alone, that you are loved, that you are cared for. You are supported throughout this process, as long as you understand that you are being given the power to become a conscious creator of your own, that you are being uplifted to become a self realized soul in human form that you as a representative of the human Consciousness collective are carried, are held through its maturation process. A moment of silence, a moment of presence will lead to moments of observation, will lead to realizations and will lead to a greater alignment within a strength that is yours, the resilience that is yours to carry you through life, for you to carry others, to support each other. In this great, transformational time in human existence, thank you for listening to our words.

Greetings. My name is Emmanuel. You have witnessed and wondered the purpose of life, the meaning of life, you have ventured, you have sought, you have asked questions. You have consulted spirit. You have consulted masters and ancestors. Yet here you are still wondering which external source will give you a satisfying answer, an answer that the mind will allow to be true, a perspective that will be the next puzzle piece for the full picture. Yet truth is not delivered. Truth emerges from within. All external sources are merely an impulse pointers the internal truth that emerges comes with a great silence that establishes. Therefore, even these words that you receive are merely supporting mechanisms for you to find the greater truth and silence within a true understanding of life, of reality and of this existence, a peace, a connection to this Love of creation, an ever present, consistent, unconditional love that permeates through all of existence, that provides for all of creation. You are consistently provided and held by this unconditional love, yet it is yours to make it consciously available, consciously present, so that you can carry that power with you in all your thoughts, emotions, in all your actions, in this reality, in this form, so You can be true vessels of love. Thank you for listening to my words. I will now answer some of your questions.

Alex Ferrari 1:37:47
Thank you so much for being here Emmanuel. My first question is, what do you and the guides see for humanity's future in these coming five to 10 years, as far as spiritually, and also just as far as what we are in for?

Asil Toksal 1:38:06
The future exists in fields of probability. Therefore, every aspect of the moment that allows for the free will of humans to come together will expand into the probable future. If the future was set, it will diminish the understanding of free will and true choice as an evolving consciousness. Therefore your choice in the moment creates the future to come. Yet certain movements and certain extrapolations of the current state of consciousness can be drawn. Therefore, certain futures are more likely to happen than others. Humanity is undergoing a great, challenging transformation, a maturation, a maturation of its consciousness and evolution, an ascension process, all aspects of the unprocessed past will be brought to surface, will be brought to conscious awareness, and some will be brought to manifestation in order to be consciously observed and processed. Healing occurs in many different ways, on a mental, emotional, physical, energetic level, on a consciousness level, realizations can be processed most effectively yet, the reality that you're experiencing, the ecosystems that. You have established the perception you have whole. You have held about what life is, what reality is about, what society is about, what the future is, is deemed to be challenged. Great polarization is already occurring. This polarization is in itself a spark for transformation. Great polarization will lead to healing, to transformation within the individual and within the societal fabric. Healing occurs on an individual level. Therefore, every individual's healing contributes to their growth and to the growth of all of those that have been in connection in connected lifetimes, current or past society heals and evolves with every individual's evolution, therefore, hold the future with a sense of potential. Allow yourself to own the choices you have. Allow yourself to process the past through your consciousness in silence and presence, so that you can be part of the transformation, the evolution of humanity, without Being part of the manifestation of the unprocessed past chain. Change can occur in a moment of deep presence, just like this, you evolve by feeling the energy of this transmission, by allowing your consciousness to expand by realizations to emerge within your being. What else can I answer for you?

Alex Ferrari 1:42:28
What is the greatest challenge that humanity has in these next 10-20, years, that we have to overcome for this evolution, this ascension,

Asil Toksal 1:42:39
The understanding that you are experiencing the illusion of separation while being an interconnected collective of consciousness, the understanding that you hold the power in this life and all aspects of this reality respond to you as a soul and as a consciousness. Creating this reality into being, this will, at first, challenge the ego construct. It will challenge the identity of health. It will challenge the fabric of society as you have not fully held this power before in a conscious way, the transformation of this power from an unconscious state of being to a conscious state of being we refer to as becoming a conscious creator. It is similar in designation to the Self Realization process of the individual. What else can I answer for you?

Alex Ferrari 1:44:00
What is the deeper purpose of earth within the cosmic framework?

Asil Toksal 1:44:05
Earth serves as a platform, as an incubation space for seeded consciousness. In this case, it is in service to humanity's consciousness to evolve until its maturation, after the completion of this human form, Earth will serve as an incubation space for other forms of consciousness. Yet, until that is the case, humanity will continue to call earth its home. It is deemed to be a safe, nurturing, loving space that challenges consciousness enough for consciousness. Is to evolve. Yet the maturation of consciousness is not guaranteed. As consciousness, through its own choosing, its own perceiving, will evolve, mature and ascend, completing. The physical human form the earth therefore serves a powerful role, both as a representative of unconditional love as a symbolic form as a mother, as a caring environment, as well as the greatest challenge that you will experience, She is both the fertile ground and the teacher, she is the example. Many learnings and realizations will be derived by observing nature and the earth. Yet the understanding of who you are is beyond the Earth and will continue beyond the Earth and the great scope of consciousness evolution, there are many planetary forms like the earth that are serving in similar ways to be incubation and learning environments for consciousness, just like this physical experience on Earth, many other physical experiences have served consciousness for millions of years. Humanity is one of the recent and therefore younger forms of consciousness. Earth has served other forms before this human collective and will continue to serve after the human collective is complete. What else can I answer for you?

Alex Ferrari 1:47:27
How can individuals move beyond ego driven desires to realize their true self?

Asil Toksal 1:47:35
No matter how powerful, how fulfilling, how uplifting external circumstances will be to the ego. The soul will always direct you to a different truth. Therefore, many individuals that have achieved the ego driven desires will recognize that the true peace and content within their being is still missing, and with time, this lack, This gap, will significantly amplify and request a different approach, no desire of the mind, no want that the external reality can provide will satisfy the soul's calling for self realization, a new journey, the journey of self realization, the journey of becoming a conscious creator, will unfold before you and every Human will be given the choice to choose to fulfill the moment with desires and wants, to fulfill the moment with silence and expansion of consciousness. The Self Realization journey is not merely about overcoming this physical reality and the illusion that it provides. It is also about appreciating this reality, yet understanding that all these elements of this reality carry no significant importance in the grand scheme of the human evolution as a consciousness, they are merely moments of learning and experience. What else can I answer for you?

Alex Ferrari 1:49:57
How can humanity overcome the resist? And challenges that are will arise during this consciousness shift that we're all going through?

Asil Toksal 1:50:09
Individuals will notice that the trust that they have laid in reality and their leadership, as well as the trust in others and society will be challenged. This will create a form of disillusionment, disheartenment, emotional response of the many times that trust was broken. Yet where in this journey did the individual give away its own power? Where did it lose its own trust in self, in its own connection to reality, to life, to existence itself, to the unconditional love of creation, humanity will learn through these challenges as the state of consciousness to face these challenges is Shifting as well many individuals as well as subgroups of humanity, will provide different perspectives on how to approach the upcoming challenges. Yet, perspectives are merely one step. Perspectives can be divisive. Perspectives can be held as true and false. Perspectives can challenge unification and true peace, yet if perspectives held up with great reverence that all perspectives have certain truth and that all perspectives combined deliver the totality of truth. Then humans as a collective will journey towards unification, towards a collective understanding, towards collective co creation. You are all in the same journey. You are all in a collective evolutionary process, therefore everyone's transformation is your transformation, and your transformation will affect everyone else. This is the way an individual carries truly the key to the transformation of all of humanity. What else can I answer for you?

Alex Ferrari 1:53:07
Do you have any parting messages for the audience?

Asil Toksal 1:53:11
Remember that no matter how big the challenge is, if you sit and allow yourself to be truly present with the challenge. Allow yourself to see, to witness, to feel, to sense, to observe in as much of a neutral state as possible. The energy of the challenge will move through you. The realization will emerge and you will find peace. At first, you will find this process incredibly challenging. You will seek to act immediately respond. You will seek external reality to change so you can have your comfort and your peace, yet the true transformation occurs within and this is the journey of empowerment that you are being gifted with that you are being supported on. Thank you for listening to my words and blessings on the journey ahead.

Alex Ferrari 1:54:33
He's back,

Asil Toksal 1:54:36
More or less, more or less, how was that, sir, great. Yeah, yeah. It's always amazing, yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:54:42
How do you remember much or not much?

Asil Toksal 1:54:46
Pieces. Yeah, yeah, dream like core pieces, yeah, exactly, a bit like a dream, yeah, that's, I hear that a lot, yeah. It's, I always have such an awe about it. And

Alex Ferrari 1:54:59
The energy was really interesting. Yeah, yeah. So when the Elohim came in, their energy was very authoritative, peaceful, loving, but just strong. When Emmanuel came in, it was very kind. And familiar, almost like a friend, kind of energy. It was very, very different frequencies.

Asil Toksal 1:55:35
That's a good observation, very similar how other people have described it. I used to say that Emmanuel was like a big brother to me, yeah. And he kind of like, held my hand and, you know, said, everything's gonna be okay. Don't worry. We got you. So that's kind of like that developed this relationship, or relational dynamic with Emmanuel.

Alex Ferrari 1:55:59
That's beautiful. That's beautiful. Now I see I'm gonna ask you a few questions. Ask all my guests. Let's do it. What is your definition of living a fulfilled life?

Asil Toksal 1:56:08
In some ways, I believe, when we journey to find greater peace within and greater love within, and we actually get to those places. The only thing that remains while we are being in human form is service. So if we can get to a place of service from that fueled unconditional love and peace, then I do believe that is the greatest fulfillment of a human experience.

Alex Ferrari 1:56:45
Beautiful answer. Now, if you had a chance to go back in time and speak to little Asil, what advice would you give?

Asil Toksal 1:56:51
It's all going to be okay.

Alex Ferrari 1:56:53
It's the most common answer.

Asil Toksal 1:56:56
It's so true, and it is so true, right? It's like everyone wishes they had that voice. Yeah, everyone wishes that some guidance was there to hold them through it. But the truth is, it was there all along. It was right there. It was right there. Otherwise we wouldn't be here.

Alex Ferrari 1:57:21
How do define God or source?

Asil Toksal 1:57:23
Oh, man, there's so many definitions and so many different layers of understanding this word. So in my perspective, there is design in this creation, and there is forms of consciousness that have great creative ability. They are creator consciousnesses that have basically established creations of such magnitude we cannot even fathom So, worlds upon creations upon universes upon universes, right, massive creations. And would I say they're God, maybe in some form perspective, right? Some people perceive any higher power than themselves as God. So there's like, anything higher is God, right? And so in that sense, there is great power in consciousness, and what I perceive as the there's something that the guides call grand consciousness, and they say it's the dissolution of self aware consciousness. So when consciousness forgets itself, then it becomes grand consciousness becomes part of the fabric of the love of creation. So in some ways, love of creation is what I would consider like the ever present. Love is God. God is love.

Alex Ferrari 1:58:52
And what is love? And what is love? What is love? Sorry,

Asil Toksal 1:59:00
In its purest form, unspeakable, indescribable being, one with all

Alex Ferrari 1:59:09
And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

Asil Toksal 1:59:12
Evolution, specifically the expression is human form, I think, supporting the evolution in service,

Alex Ferrari 1:59:24
And where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing in the world.

Asil Toksal 1:59:27
We have a nonprofit organization called evolution one, and evolution.one is the website. We have a YouTube channel. We have significant amounts of free transmissions and workshops and retreats, sacred site, missions, so much that we offer, and we want to make it as freely and widely available as possible, because that's the guidance that we have. That's why we create a nonprofit to do this work and. Social media and our website, and I hope people join to experience this work for themselves, as we can go to significant depths, if we do like deeper level of courses with the guides and workshops and so on.

Alex Ferrari 2:00:19
And do you have any parting messages for the audience?

Asil Toksal 2:00:23
Get ready. It's gonna get it's gonna get potent, it's gonna get intense. And it's the time now to really make conscious effort to growth and evolution. No other time. I mean, the second best time, aside from yesterday, is today. And really establishing a strong, spiritual foundation is going to be so valuable, it's going to be the greatest asset we're going to have, because everything else will not matter as much as it does today.

Alex Ferrari 2:01:04
A lot of these constructs around us, these institutions, these ideas, social constructs, are all going to start to crumble in ways that will challenge every single human on this planet,

Asil Toksal 2:01:18
Absolutely, to some degree. And new constructs will establish, and so on and so forth. So there's consistent churn, but the one thing that doesn't change, that no one can take away from you is how strong and so solid you are, how aligned you are, how much capacity you have for the human experience, and that is the resilience of the soul in human form. And I would, I want people to have that that's like, I want you to have that power, because it's yours. Why not hold it and carry it with grace and with love.

Alex Ferrari 2:01:54
Asil, it has been such a pleasure having you in the studio today. Man, it's been, I knew this was going to be a mind blowing profound conversation, and you did not disappoint, and neither did the guides, Emmanuel, everybody that, everybody that was here today, the energy is so beautiful, and I appreciate you and everything you're doing to help awaken this planet, my friend. So thank you again. So much.

Asil Toksal 2:02:19
Thank you, Alex. It's a pleasure to be here, and the work you've done is opening a lot of doors for a lot of people as well. So we are in the same boat, and everyone that's watching is part of this journey, and humanity is a lot of people, and a lot of people will need our support, so let's do it.

Alex Ferrari 2:02:44
Appreciate you.