Amish Shah 0:00
They found a city twice the size of Manhattan under the water of right off the coast of Dwarka. That's just done by sonar. So they don't even actually know how big it actually extends out.

Alex Ferrari 0:10
It's very possible that even if this war happened during the time of Atlantis, 12,000 years ago, we could still have it in the ground.

Amish Shah 0:18
Krishna, in retaliation, shot missiles from the ground up to the Vimana, and the Vimana crashed into the Arabian Sea, or the Indian Ocean.

Alex Ferrari 0:27
But they actually found evidence of nuclear war in the continent on the country of India.

Amish Shah 0:34
They have evidence of radioactivity in that area, along with the Harappan civilization, which is nearby, they not only found levels of radioactivity, but they found vitrification. Maybe Krishna was actually not a fictitious mythological person, but an actual enlightened being, or a king, or whatever you want to call him. He existed as well.

Alex Ferrari 1:05
Now, before we jump into this episode, if this conversation resonates with you, please, like, subscribe and share this with whoever you feel that needs to hear it. Your support helps us keep bringing this information out into the world and helps us awaken this planet. Thank you. I like to welcome to the show Amish Shah, how you doing Amish?

Amish Shah 1:30
I'm doing great. How are you doing?

Alex Ferrari 1:31
I'm doing great, man. Thank you so much for for coming on the show, dude. I've I've been looking forward to having you on the show because we met, because I wanted to license two of your amazing films, the natural law and Dwarka the lost the Indian Atlantis. And after I, you know, went through watch those films and went down the rabbit hole, I'm like, I gotta go deeper with him. And I want to go deep down this rabbit hole. So we haven't really talked a lot about either of those topics, about about ancient mysteries that come from India. We've, I've only touched upon it with some other people, but no one, no one who's gone deep down the rabbit hole like you have in this space. So Well, let's, let's start, first and foremost, man with Dwarka is pronouncing it right Dwarka?

Amish Shah 2:22
Dwarka, Dwarka, yes. Dwarka is, yeah. It's a little town in India.

Alex Ferrari 2:28
It is okay, so Dwarka is, but apparently there was a Atlantis style civilization there in ancient times, with ancient technologies and a lot of mystery behind and everything. So can you talk a little bit about what the heck it was? Because I know a lot of people listening have never even heard of this. And by the way, before we even start, didn't they just discover a city on off the coast of India, like an ancient city under, under the in the ocean as well?

Amish Shah 2:55
Yes, they found a city twice the size of Manhattan, under the water of right off the coast of Dwarka, and that's just done by sonar. So they don't even actually know how big it actually extends out. They've just done whatever they could. They've done some dredging, they've done some carbon dating. And so, yeah, I would love to kind of share about the history of what got me, like, interested about this and how it all started, how it all started. And what's interesting is the story of Dwarka actually ties into the story of the natural law. So we can, kind of, we can segue into that, and we can talk about that. So I'll just briefly give you a little introduction about myself, and then I'll tell you how this all happened. So my growing up, I my parents are from India, so they moved to New Jersey in 1978 or 79 I was born a few years later. And basically I grew up in America with, like Indian parents, with very Indian cultural heritage. And with that being said, my parents would always read me or tell me stories about the Bhagavad Gita and the Mahabharat war, and, you know, Krishna, who's one of the largest gods or deities in India. And so I would listen to these stories, and I'm like, okay, like, and I would watch some of the movies and shows that they would be talking about, and I'd be like, so wait, they had like, wars with, like, 10s of millions of people, and they had all these weird weapons and, like, I don't really understand what this means. So growing up as a kid, it was always like, this is myth. This is mythology. It's just they made a story about a good person, a king who lived good life values, and then he was teaching his disciple those values, and that became the Bhagavad Gita. And I was like, okay, so I just dismissed it as like story, as folklore. Now, in when I was really young, I was actually the kid that was always interested in like ancient. Wisdom while everyone else was reading, like Tom Sawyer, I had books on the pyramids and ancient Indian temples and like all the ancient mysteries of the world, basically, you know. And so I was like that kid. And so fast forward a little bit. I was always kind of sick as a child. I'm going to get into that about the natural law. And through this process, I also made a lot of money in my 20s. I hit $10 million under the age of 30 years old per year, and so I was running a multi eight figure business at under the age of 30 years old, and I didn't know what to do with that much money. And so I got really, really sick, and I partied. And I just went, I went berserk. I ate what I wanted to partied, how I wanted to drove the cars I wanted to lived in the 6000 square foot house in La Jolla with the pool on the roof and an elevator. I mean, the whole deal, you know, Ferrari Maseratis, I but I got so sick that I was just like, I'm done with this. I am so done with this. And that led to me saying, What do I love doing? What do I love doing? And, like, a lot of deep inner searching of, like, what do I want to do next? And ancient wisdom was the thing that always came up. It's like, Dude, you love ancient wisdom. Like, turn that into a business. And I was like, I don't know how to turn this thing into a business. This is crazy. So as I was, like, meditating, and I was trying to get healthier, and I was trying to fix was trying to fix what's wrong with my body and understand, like, what is next for me. I stepped back into my world of ancient wisdom and really just started digging deeper and deeper and saying, okay, like, you know, they talk about Krishna, you know, my parents talk about Krishna and, like, what? What is all this about? Like, what do I need to dig in more? So I started digging in more, and Dwarka kept coming up. And more importantly, not just Dwarka, but something called vimanas. This is what got me first interested vimanas. Vimanas are flying machines, or some kind of aerial machine. That's the only way to actually translate Sanskrit to English. Is a machine is some kind of machine that flies. And in the ancient texts, they talk about these machines that would basically have missiles, and they can shoot from the from the sky to the ground. And, you know, I was always fascinated by these machines because I didn't know what they were, and they were powered by vortex engines with mercury, and they explained how these machines were built and worked. So as I started discovering this, I'm like, wait a second, what is this all about? What is the what are these vimanas and these UFOs that Indian culture was talking about? And so that led me to dig deeper into Dwarka, specifically. And the reason I chose Dwarka is because that is where, supposedly, Krishna had his kingdom, and that's where the great Mahabharat war took place. So it was a war that that said that, you know, 10 million soldiers had fought and died, actually. So if, like, that many people mill, 10 million soldiers is a lot of soldiers. So this was a mega big war. And so I was like, where's the evidence of this, like, war, where, if this Dwarka? Like, I don't know. I was confused. I was like, it was so much detail of what happened in this war and what Krishna was saying, and Krishna is life that I was like, maybe there's some truth to this. So that led me down the path of researching Dwarka and Graham Hancock's work, which is absolutely brilliant, which I'm sure you're familiar with. And Graham Hancock and my research that was done with the ASI, which is the Archeological Survey of India. And there's also another organization, which is the Oceanography Institute of India as well. And they had papers that in the 40s, they started dredging. They started digging in the ground nearby, and they started, they found the top of a temple. And they're like, whoa. This is, this is interesting. There's a top of a temple underground where the new temple existed that they had built. And so it was very common that when sea levels rose in ancient times, they would just build another temple on top of the last one, and just kind of keep building on top of the oldest temple. And so they found this temple that was underground, and they excavated it, and it is seven stories tall, and they dated it to approximately 1000 ish. AD, around that time, 900 or 1000 ad, now, that was just fascinating in and of itself. I was like, whoa. And this is the temple where supposedly Krishna worshipers were 1000s of years ago. And as they started going out towards the sea. There's a little island off the coast of Dwarka. Now this is the west coast of India. On the west coast of there's like this little piece that sticks out on the West Coast right there. It's on the Arabian Sea. There's an Arabian Sea in the Indian Ocean. Now, they started to go out into the Arabian Sea and the Indian Ocean, and they did sonography like. Sono, sono. What am I trying to say? Sonogram of the of the ocean floor, and they found a city that was twice the size of in Manhattan. They started dredging the floor, and they found more evidence, and they started carbon dating it, and they found more evidence that this city existed. It was a mega, mega. It was a metropolis. It was a huge city. Now, in the ancient books, they talk about how this city was made up of gold. They said the buildings were made up of gold. The streets were paved in gold. There was flying machines. Everyone was happy and blissful and in tune and enlightened, and everyone was abundant in nature. And Krishna ruled this land, and, like, everyone, like, loved him, and, you know, all this kind of stuff. So I was like, wow, that's, that's a really fascinating connection that they actually found that this city existed by archeological means. Yeah, there was three parts, you know, to this. There was the verbal tradition, which is passed down orally from generation to generation. There is the written tradition, which was written down, you know, for 1000s of years, is written in the books of the Mahabharat and the Bhagavad Gita, that this place existed and the war happened. And then there was also the archeological evidence, now that they dredged the water, they did some research, and they found that this place actually exists. And so then I dug in even more. And I started to dig into the Mahabharat specifically. And in the Mahabharat and the Bhagavad Purana, which are two ancient texts of India about Krishnas life and about how he lived, and about so many other things that you would be surprised that 1000s of years ago, they talked about how many species there are in the universe, how many universes there are, how many planets there are. It's wild. You know that they talked about this 1000s of years ago. And I'm like, Wait, this is a this is a weird book that I'm reading from 1000s of years ago. So what I did was I went and found all the references to vimanas during that time. And what I did also at the same time was try and reference, because in ancient times, they didn't have watches. They didn't have clocks. They didn't track time the way we track time like we do nowadays. So in ancient India, they used to look up and look at the stars, and that's how they used to track time. So now, inside of the Bhagavad Gita and the Mahabharat specifically, and the Bhagavad Purana during the time of the war, they used to use astrological references of what was going on in the sky when these events were happening. And a professor by the name of a DR, a char took those references, and you can plug it into planetary software, and it spits out a year, and it came out to a 3067, BC.

Amish Shah 12:57
Now this is five, over 5000 years ago, and now I had all the proof that I needed that this was real. They had archeological evidence, they had astronomical evidence, verbal and written evidence that this city existed with these things called vimanas that were flying machines. It's the best way that I can explain it. And so the story goes that he was fighting a war with a king of another land, King Shalva. King Shalva built and flew his Vimana to Dwarka, and started firing projectiles from the sky to Dwarka and was destroying the city. Now, Krishna, in retaliation, shot missiles from the ground up to the Vimana, and the Vimana crashed into the Arabian Sea, or the Indian Ocean. So then that made me think, what if that actually happened? Is there remnants of this? Is there a proof that this is in the ocean, in the in the sea somewhere? Maybe there's lost technology under the ocean. There the proof that this existed in 3067 BC is is there, using all kinds of different evidence, and the story of Krishna is also recorded in Sanskrit, which is a very accurate language. It's a it's a language that's used for accuracy. That's That's why it's so brilliant. And so when I was researching all of this, I was like, Man, how come the excavations and the research stopped, completely stopped in the 80s and 90s, just boom, done. No more research, no more questions, asked, nothing. And this is in. India's heritage. This is their culture. This is their history. So I started to ask myself, What is going on, and this is in 2011 around 2011 and I went on this deep rabbit hole. Search for more videos, more content. Learn more about Dwarka, and I couldn't find anything, zero. The only content that I could find was from Graham Hancock, and then the studies that were done by the Government of India. And there was nothing else really done. And I was really sick at the time, and I was trying to figure out what was going on with me, and I needed to figure out what I wanted to do next in my life. And so something just told me, I went like deep into contemplation and meditation. It was just like, You got to go to Dwarka. And I was just like, me go to Dwarka. I was kind of not really interested in I didn't know, but I kept getting this download that I need to go to Dwarka. And so my wife, at the time, was six months pregnant, and she's like, you're gonna do what? And I was like, I'm going to Dwarka. I have no idea why, but I need to go to figure out what I need to do next in my life. So I packed my bags and I went off to India, to Dwarka, and I had a little Sony, little, uh, video, little video camera that you can do, like those blog, those little V blog kind of cameras back in the day, back in the day. Yeah. And so I was just like, Okay, I'll bring this little thing with me, and I'll do like, kind of like a like, a video blog kind of thing, and I'll just record my like encounters when I go to dorca. I'll be honest. About a week before I was going to go to India, I started freaking out because I was like, it wasn't even on Google Maps at the time Dwarka, the streets, nothing was on Google Maps. I had to do deep research to find the only hotel that was in Dwarka at the time. Booked my room there, and I didn't have any footage to go by. I didn't have any website to go by. The website that was there for the temple was like, Really, like geo cities, 1990s like kind of website. And so I just started emailing all these different media companies from India, saying, I am coming to India, and I want to learn more about Dwarka. Can you tell me more? Do you have any footage, or do you have any content that I can consume before I come so I can be familiar with the area, like what streets to walk on, and how to get there, and all of it. Nobody responded. I went to India. I got to my hotel, I walked over to the temple, and I was like, this is pretty cool. I saw this magnificent temple. Oh, my God, breathtaking. If you ever saw draca temple, you can Google it and look at the images. And you're like, what you look at this thing, you're like, This was built in 1000 ad like, you know, 2000 years ago, or 1000 some change. And what's even funnier is they have, if you go lower and lower and lower, like underneath, they found older and older evidence of older temples, right? So I went around and just kind of getting my bearings down with dorca. And I get back to my hotel, and I'm literally sitting at the edge of my window trying to get reception and trying to down get my emails, because I was bored. I didn't know what to do. I was going to go to Dwarka the next day and be there during the day and kind of do more research. And I get an email from somebody in India, an Indian media company, that says, We're inspired by your story. We don't have any footage on Dwarka. We're going to send someone out to film you while you're there. And I was like, Okay, I guess I Yeah, send them over. I guess like, Yeah, whatever. But I guess I don't know. So the next day, this guy shows up at my hotel with the video camera, the old school ones, the big ones that you carry on your shoulder and a microphone, and he just follows me around all over India and Dwarka. And Dwarka is in the state of Gujarat, and so I frantically start emailing people. I'm like, hey, you know, I want to interview you. Are you nearby? How do I get to where you're at. I have no idea, like, someone's that I need to do interviews for for dorca, because it's just being called of me to do these things. And I my whole trajectory of the trip has changed. And so this guy is telling me, like, Okay, here's a microphone. Go record. And I'm like, I don't even know what to say. What do you want me to say? You know, I. Um, so we just started filming. And we started filming more and more and more. And sure enough, within eight days, I had two or three interviews in the can and a bunch of footage of Dwarka and me walking on the ocean or nearby the banks of the Dwarka, and on the plane back, I was just like, what, what? What just happened? I have eight days of footage of me in India researching Dwarka from a professional videographer. What am I going to do with all this footage? What is the purpose of all this? Maybe, do I edit it into little chunks and put it on YouTube? Or what do I do? And the word documentary popped into my mind on the plane back from India, and I was like, documentary. I've never done a documentary before. And sure enough, I get back, and I was inspired. I wrote the whole script out, and I turned it into a documentary about everything that I discovered about this lost civilization, that this place existed, and maybe Krishna was actually not a fictitious mythological person, but an actual enlightened being or a king, or whatever you want to call him, he existed as Well, and and was the ruler of this land, and sharing my research about vimanas, there was 50 something references of vimanas in these ancient texts. And I put the documentary out, I edited it and just got the story down and released it on YouTube. And I had started building a Instagram or Facebook channel at the time, and it just started getting bigger and bigger and bigger, and I literally reached, like, millions and millions of views with this documentary. And I was just like, whoa. Maybe this is what I'm supposed to be doing. Maybe this is my calling. Maybe I'm supposed to go deeper down this rabbit hole. Maybe I'm supposed to teach more of this wisdom, because we don't know anything really about our past. We have fragments of our history, and I truly believe that our ancients were way far more advanced than we think they were. They may have had primitive we call it primitive. We call it primitive, but they lived in abundance. They had irrigation systems that were far more advanced than the things that we have now. They have temples that were built that we can't even replicate in today's world. And they talk about these flying machines, and they talk about how everyone's living a happy, healthy, abundant life. And I was like, that doesn't really sound like the life we're living in America nowadays.

Amish Shah 22:52
And so I was like, wow, I have to dig deeper into this ancient wisdom. And so that documentary went so viral, Discovery Channel called me, and we ended up doing an episode on Discovery Channel on Expedition unknown, with Josh gates, and that one was called India's Atlantis. And I was just like, wow. And we went diving the second time we went to India, and we went under the water, and we pulled out this stone anchor that was over 5000 years old. And we have that on footage. We have that all recorded. And it's just incredible that, like this city, existed underwater. And I'd like to just say one more thing is that the Prime Minister of India went underwater himself and did a ritual underwater in Dwarka just about two or three years ago to pay respects to this ancient city, because the government is now acknowledging that this place existed and was a magical place.

Alex Ferrari 23:59
So so so much I have to ask so many things are popping in my head as you told that story. Um, one from my research, I I heard somewhere in the you, think it was in the bag of the Vita about there this war, obviously, there were these massive beams of light that came in from the from the sky and and missiles and this kind of stuff, flying machines and so on. But they actually found evidence of of nuclear, nuclear war in in the in the continent of or in the country of India, they did, but, but the thing is that there's no natural reason why that land would be radioactive. So they like, go towards it. It's radioactive. Like, why is this radioactive? There's no plutonium here. There's no there's nothing natural creating it. But there is a there is radioactivity in the ground. Around the ground. Yes. And as everybody should know, radioactivity does not go away for a long, long time. So it's very feasible that if a nuclear bomb in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, they're going to have radioactive particles and in the in the soil for 1000s of years in the future. So it's very possible that even if this war happened during the time of Atlantis, 12,000 years ago, we still have it in the ground. Would that be exact? Is that correct?

Amish Shah 25:35
Yeah, they have evidence of radioactivity in that area, along with the Harappan civilization, which is nearby, and they not only found levels of radioactivity, but they found vitrification. Vitrification is when sand turns to glass turns shut Right, yeah. And they have evidence of this in those in that location. And they have evidence of this, also in harapan, where the Harappa existed. There was also just another study that was just released, I'm talking like three weeks ago, right in the Gulf of combat, that they found evidence of a civilization over 20,000 years ago.

Alex Ferrari 26:18
So what is that? What are they? What did they discover that is, is making them feel that this is a 20,000 year old civilization?

Amish Shah 26:26
So they found civilization that say they pre that predates the in the Indus, Indus civilization, the Harappa civilization, and that it the history of India, goes back much older, much older than than previously thought.

Alex Ferrari 26:41
Well, so the, so the Vedic scriptures, I've heard that they are somewhere between 6000 some even, say even 10,000 or even older. There's no real way to kind of it, but it is ancient stuff, I mean, and at minimum, five or 6000 years old, these kind of Vedic texts, correct? So the one thing I people who, who are do argue this because they're stuck on Newtonian, Newtonian philosophy, if you will, or logic of you know, we were, we were just Neanderthals, and we became Homo sapiens, and then, or something along those lines. And that came from monkeys, and we all went all the way up. And so it's like we started on the lowest level, and now we're at the highest level. But the concept of cycles is not something that the mainstream academics want to grab onto, because it ruins everything that they've held dear for a long, long time, specifically within the last 500 years, but there is in the ancient times, like we were kind of mentioning the Yuga cycles, there is cycles that happen, that we become enlightened, then we go into the dark ages, then we become enlightened, then we go into the dark ages. And it's a constant thing, but every time we go down again, we're a bit higher than we were at the beginning. So we've evolved to it's kind of like almost a spiral up, almost a spiral up, in the sense. But there are these cycles. So it's fascinating to me how in ancient times, in the Vedic texts and all these things, the the well, not with Gobekli Tepe and with a lot of the findings they're having, it's throwing holes in this, in this theory of of everything, if you will. That is that they just don't like so they just kind of ignore it. You heard what happened to Gobekli Tepe, right? That they started planting olive trees so no one can dig, so no one can actually dig, because there's actually about seven or eight more of those, those kind of centers where go black. The Tepe is in this mountain that's just covered up, and now they're covering up. And I know you ran into a little bit of opposition as well on your journey, as far as people not wanting to talk and, you know, that kind of stuff. Can you explain what your experiences were? I mean, you're just, you weren't even a professional filmmaker when you were doing this stuff, man. You were just a dude that was interested in a guy with a camera following you. So you weren't, like a known. You weren't James Cameron making a documentary. You know, it was, it was like just, you're just a dude, and God knows if he would ever even been seen, and yet they were still through obstacles in front of you. So can you tell everybody what kind of pushback you got by just asking some questions about this?

Amish Shah 29:33
Yeah, well, thank you for asking that. So I went to go visit people, and I was interviewing people, and the first gentleman that I interviewed from the Archeological Survey of India, he basically said that none of what you're saying is not true. And he said it's because that there's no evidence that this happened. There's no There's no science. Specific evidence that we can come up with that this actually happened. And I'm like, what are you what are you talking about? What is astrology, verbal, written and and archeological evidence? If that's not enough evidence, then what evidence are you actually looking for? And there was just a lot of like, academia doesn't want to acknowledge that that civilization and the history that we've been told and the history that we that comes in our books, is not 100% accurate, because we don't know everything that happened at the world back then. You know, we don't know everything that was going on across the world, although in in Indian culture, they have some of the most preserved texts from that time. So when I was talking to this guy, he kept kind of saying, like, you know, I don't there's no evidence for this. And I went back and I said, dude, like, there's tons of evidence. There's archeological, there's archeological, there's astronomy, there's written and there's, there's verbal evidence that this existed. And he goes, Well, you know that that's all fine. But there's, there's no further questions have been asked, and no one has proved that this, this actually what you're asking me about the Manas, and that you're asking about this war actually happened. And so I'm like, sitting there, like, Okay, well, Dwarka exists. There's twice the size of the city of Manhattan, there's vitrification, there's radioactivity. Something went down there, and he just didn't want to answer it. He didn't want to be the one that would answer my questions. And he said that there's also geopolitical I'm going to put that in air quotes, geopolitical con like, things that we that he that we can't go further research this, because it could stir up some commotion. If the city of Dwarka actually existed, it would rearrange a lot of the history books, which could create political turmoil.

Alex Ferrari 32:05
Why? What political turmoil about finding a lost city is unless it's in someone else's territory I guess.

Amish Shah 32:12
Because if Krishna existed and he was a god, people can't you can't say that.

Alex Ferrari 32:22
So wait, but wait a minute, isn't, isn't, isn't Hinduism based upon the the belief of Krishna and Vishnu and Shiva and the 5000 other Indian deities that there are out there. Um, but is it all? Is it all like Zeus and Athena, like in completely mythological, or did they not believe that Krishna actually walked the earth?

Amish Shah 32:49
So, yeah, the idea that they, I think there's mixed opinions in India. Across India, a lot of people have so much a lot of faith, and they believe that these gods and deities are real. And then there's a lot of people in India that think that it's just mythological and folklore. Academia kind of leans towards that this is folklore, and it was just the regular city where people lived. The other piece of it I'll mention here is that, because it sits in the Arabian Sea, and that Pakistan is nearby, if they say that the city existed in those waters and that Krishna existed, it could create a war.

Alex Ferrari 33:36
But why, I don't understand what war over what? Over an idea, over a story.

Amish Shah 33:44
Be Pakistan and India have had turmoil since the the beginning of time,

Alex Ferrari 33:50
Right! So, okay, that's but when they, when you said that, like, Oh no, it's just a normal city that's on that they found underwater, well, it's still a massive freaking city, massive. It's a massive Metropolis that's dating back much farther than you guys ever anticipated. It's fascinating. So it is not just the white man's version, like in academia, a lot of the west you know white guys. You know white old guys in you know, stuffy colleges who say, no, no, no, don't ask about Atlantis. That was just something that Plato made up. Is not it's not exclusive to them. Apparently, also in India and I guess, in other cultures as well, there are this kind of, this kind of group of people who are stuck in what they believe, and they can't break out of it. What I find fascinating is archeologists in general, because I've had actual full blown archeologists on who are all in on the traditional mainstream pattern. I've had a mixture of someone who. Is, I listen, Atlantis wasn't there, but there's some stuff that might have, you know, might be something that's beyond what we know, or something along those lines. So, yeah, so, and I've spoken to, you know, people who like, like a grant Hancock style, they're going all of the other end. But what I find fascinating is, in an archeologist, you're supposed to be discovering new and unraveling things from the past. If you stay stuck in what some guy said 100 years ago, like they did with the Egypt, like the Egyptian pyramids, that you know, the Great Pyramid is some sort of Tomb which makes no logical sense whatsoever and makes no historical sense whatsoever. But it was literally a British guy who's like, this must be a tomb, and that's just stuck, you know. But there's no no higher glyphs, there's no there's no body. There was nothing that they found in 1000s of other tombs to say that. So I just find it so fascinating that they're stuck in their in their kind of dogma, and won't open up when they're in science and archeologists, it is both. It's about exploration, it's about building, about what we've learned and continuing to grow. I just find it so fascinating that they're so stuck in Dogma. It's, it's, it's insane to me.

Amish Shah 36:18
Yeah, it is. And they know, unfortunately, that is the situation. However, the second guy that I interviewed, he said, Keep digging, keep researching. Don't stop you're onto something. I don't want to be on camera. I don't want to be the one that is known to talk about this, but you're onto something, and keep digging. And I was just like, wow. Like somebody was actually, like, on my side, and he was a professor at a university nearby, and so that was pretty fascinating for me to to, you know, to have two separate opinions, you know, of what actually happened and what actually went on over there.

Alex Ferrari 36:56
So, um, so what, what are the some of the lost technologies that have been spoken about in the ancient text, that there is some sort of archeological proof that something was there. So, like, you know, turning sand into glass takes an insane amount of heat. It's not something like, you just, yeah, you don't just bring out a, you know, your backpack with, you know, a blowtorch or something, and you're like, Okay, we're gonna make, we're gonna make glass now, like, no, no, no, no. It doesn't work that way. In the middle of it, you know, in the middle of outside somewhere, it's so that alone is like, something happened, man, something happened here. So we have flying machines, which I've heard some people, because there's, isn't there blueprints somewhere? Or am I wrong on that?

Amish Shah 37:46
Yeah, there are those blueprints. It's called the Vimana shastra. Shastra means texts of texts. And so somebody, I guess, about 100 to 200 years ago, or maybe a little bit more than that, translated some of the Vimana shastra texts into English, and you see these designs that you're just you're like these, wow. They're machines. They he tells you what the engines look like, how they work, how they propel, what kind of vortex engines where the passengers sit? And it is a wild discovery. There is something in the Vamana Shastras. Oh, my God, I forgot the name. I want to say. It's like jumbok Money, chumbak money, or something like that. And it was a it was a device that lets you look, let you look underground and detect metal. These are, these are texts from 1000s of years ago, and you have to use it from an aerial. You can't use it on the ground. You can only use it. It said, you use this from the Vimana to detect if there's metal underground. Now, what's crazy about this is that there's a research company based out of South India, and I think out of Sri Lanka or near Sri Lanka, that did research on this chumbach money. And they recreated the chumbach money, and they used it to look under surfaces, to look for metal,

Alex Ferrari 39:21
So that they're even talking about this stuff is fascinating. And my I love the argument that they say, like, Oh, these are just stories. These are just people who sat down and wrote stories about stuff. And I said, you know, if the Anunnaki in the Sumerian in the Sumerian tablets, you know, you mean to tell me some dude got a bunch of tablets and just started chiseling like, it's not like we're just sitting there typing on a computer or writing even on paper. This takes time. This takes like, there's, there's no white out, and I'm doing myself, there's no white you. Know, there's no delete button. Let me, oh, I, let me rephrase that. No, no. It was very conscious, very specific. So why would somebody, or many people, take the time to chisel this stuff into either stone or write it down on Indian palm leaves or or whatever medium it is? I mean, it just makes no it makes no sense. It's kind of like the argument with Atlantis that Plato was just, oh, he's just writing. So it's an allegory. It's this or that. I'm like, is it, though?

Amish Shah 40:32
Yeah, is it just the myth. It's just for fun. They were just telling stories.

Alex Ferrari 40:37
Well, let me, let me ask you, let me, let me ask you, Mish, do you believe that? I mean, I think you do, but that we were coming we have devolved, in many ways, from our ancient past in these cycles. And we could talk about the Yuga cycles in a second, but that we've devolved a bit and come back and people like, that's impossible. I'm like, Well, is it though? Because right now, if a nuclear bomb goes off, let's say we have a nuclear war, God forbid, right? And we wipe out 95% of humanity. There's still 5% now, depending on who those 5% are, is the knowledge that humanity has left over, because two or three generations from now, we're going to be talking about the internet and AI and football stadiums and Netflix and that kind of stuff as mythology, because there's really no reference point anymore. All of our knowledge is basically in the cloud, quote, unquote, in the internet. But if all that goes away, knowledge is gone, or whatever is left in books, which are even older, older depositories of knowledge. But if all that goes away, it's all what's in here, of the survivors that make it. And slowly they have to kind of re so if you and I, sir, were the last two dudes, and we have, you know, maybe a group of, we found a group of a tribe of humans who are maybe two or three generations. I don't know. I'm just throwing stuff out there that were in Africa or something like that, that didn't really have access to it. And you and me, we have to, like, explain agriculture. We have to explain how to build a car, explain the wheel, like, you know, explain thermodynamics. It's whatever you and I remember from watching documentaries or or or our own studies over the course of our life. And that's human that's human knowledge. So it's very fragile. People don't really understand how fragile it is. So some major thing could have happened, natural disaster, the flood story,

Amish Shah 42:43
They said Dwarka by the sea,

Alex Ferrari 42:47
Yes, so tell us a little bit, because the flood myth, quote, unquote myth, or the flood story, is in every culture around the world, all dating, give or take around the same time. Let's not talk about Moses right now, because the Bob, the Bible and all that stuff, and Noah, but, but generally speaking, historically, every culture has a flood myth, all of it. So what was India's flood myth? And see how it works out with Atlantis. And is there any timing? Is there any archeological proof in the timing of when it happened, because the Younger Dryas we we know it happened. And it was at it was about 10,000 years ago, 11,000 years ago. So that leans it into the exact time where Plato said there was an Atlantis. And, you know, it just kind of works out. So, what is it? What is the history in India?

Amish Shah 43:39
Yeah. So according to kind of my research, and this does tie in to the Yuga cycles, to some extent, is every 24,000 years, there's something called the procession of the equinox. It's basically when the world does, like a full cycle, and the magnetic pole shifts, basically the North Pole shifts a little bit. And so what happens is, it's also a cycle of the whole entire planet system, the whole planetary system of our Milky Way galaxy. Yeah. And so with that being said, the ancient Indians recorded, you know, these cycles of time where there'll be the Golden Age, and then as the Golden Age descends, it goes into the dark age. And then out of the dark age you ascend into the Golden Age, and then you go back down into the dark age. Now here's something fascinating, the Ramayan story. The Ramayan predates Krishna. Also had archeological and astrological references. These astrological and archeological references go back to even older, to over 5000 BC. In the Ramayan texts, they talk about how we talk about our pineal gland, and how the pineal gland is the center of spirituality and where we get divine insight from. And it's like, quite literally, maybe our divine. Connection that gives us the downloads that we are to live our lives basically, and it's responsible for our experience of life. And you know, the the pineal gland is always kind of been a mystery, and more research has been coming out that it's actually a very important gland in the body. Now they say around the Ramayana time, around 5000 BC, the pineal gland was the size of a small lemon. Ooh, right now the pineal gland is, is tiny, maybe, maybe, maybe half of my pinky, half of my pinky, like this, just the top part, half, and now we're talking this big. And so there's many texts that mention how the body was actually very different at the time, and that that we don't necessarily revolve and prominence pramahansa Yogananda and his guru also, talked about, yeah, they also in the holy science, yeah. In the holy science, yeah, which is that the sun is not a it's not a singular Sun System. There's a binary system. And if you look anywhere else in the galaxy, there's always two suns that spin around each other, and that's what creates that now for our Earth, we can't see the second sun. We don't know where that second sun, technically is. However, according to Yukteswar, there's a elliptical pattern that occurs. So the sun may be far away, and it spins on a kind of more of an oval shape than a completely circle shape. So when we're heading into the golden age, we see, we may not see the sun, but the energy from that second sun comes and enlightens us and gives us the wisdom and we're able to control, they say, during the Satya Yuga, which is the top the Yuga, that you can be in the cycle of time, the most enlightened time, the Golden Age, we have mastered electric electricity and gravity and and magnetism. So we have conquered we know how to use it completely. We have full knowledge of this system. Humans can telepathically communicate and it life was very different creatures. Humans were much taller, bigger, stronger. That's why we see many evidence of structures that were like, how is this thing built? Like, how did they, how did they do this? Like, wouldn't you need a giant to put this thing and build this thing? And so that's where some of this giant kind of myth and mystery, I believe, comes from as well. And so from the Ramayan during the Enlightened time, he was kind of around the Tetra Yuga, which is, it's still the golden age, but it's descending. So now we're going descending into the dark age. And when Krishna passed, the flood came. He said, This is the beginning of the Dark Ages. This is the beginning of the Kali Yuga. The Kali Yuga has been coming to them for quite some time, but we hit rock bottom. And this is again mapped out according to Archaea astrology or astronomy, to around 30,000 3067 ish BC, that this all took place. And if you look a lot of the other ancient cultures, they all kind of mentioned similar timings, that there was a big flood, and everything kind of got lost at that time. And in the story of Krishna, Krishna basically says, My work here is done. The whole city of Dwarka got submerged under the sea, and that he left his body to go merge with the divine. And he said, I will come back in the Kali Yuga, 1000s of years later, and I'll come back in a different form to save the world from themselves. Because we're about to go into it, we're about to go into a dark age. And so all of the Vedic wisdom, if you look at Ayurveda, which is the natural laws about Ayurveda, and you look at a lot of these ancient texts on meditation and yoga and the healing arts, especially the healing arts of India, they specifically mentioned you're going to need this during the Kali yoga. This is the only way you're going to remember our hat, our history. This the only way you're going to be able to get out of the dark ages is by through meditation, through yoga, through mastering your physical body, and also mastering some of these sciences, these electromagnetic, astrological kind of sciences. And so this is quite literally written in these texts that you're going to need this, and we're producing it now, and we're going to bake it into our songs. We're going to bake it into our dances. We're going to bake it into our mantras, into yoga, into astrology, into Ayurveda, into every song. Single science of India is based on these elemental sciences, the five elements, ether, air, fire, water and earth. Those five elements make up the whole entire universe. And they knew this back then. And so this is what the natural law is about. And so going back to the flood myth, they knew that this was going to happen because they could kind of peer into the future, and they started creating these texts. And they said, We need to put this and bake this into the culture in every facet possible so that they don't forget it, and that no matter how many invasions come, and that no matter how oppressed the country might get, this wisdom survives somehow in some hidden corners and some hidden libraries in the mountains, in some ashram, in a temple underneath, under underground vaults, they stored this wisdom, and it still exists nowadays, nowadays, and it's so amazing that this wisdom still exists from the end of the Tetra yoga and into the into the Kali Yuga. So yeah, yeah,

Alex Ferrari 51:03
Yeah, so, so, from my understanding, the Hugo we're in right now is, so we're here at the top. Was the Enlightened time, the golden time, and we went all the way down to here. And let's say this is the farthest from that moment. And that was our dark ages, those five or 600 years, right? Nothing was happening like nothing was going on

Amish Shah 51:23
Dungeons and Dragons,

Alex Ferrari 51:25
Like it was Dungeons and Dragons, baby. That was all it was. And then we started to come out of it. And then when we started to come out of it, the Renaissance was the beginning of it. And it just kind of and started growing from there where the last 150 years, it's exponentially grown so fast that last 150 years, we've done things that we couldn't do in the last 5000 so it's pretty remarkable, and it seems to be exponentially growing in our lifetime. My God, man, how much has happened in our lifetime, and how much has happened the last five years? How much, I mean seriously, last 10 years, it's just seems to be going so we are becoming more enlightened. We are becoming more awakened.

Amish Shah 52:05
We are ascending. We are ascending

Alex Ferrari 52:07
We are ascending. But with that said, the old systems of the old Yuga is fighting to stay in power because they do not want to let that go. And that goes across every single, every single part of human life, whether religion or

Amish Shah 52:23
Military, banking, yeah,

Alex Ferrari 52:26
Food, everything is all of it, they're fighting religion. All of it is fighting to hold. Yeah, it's they're holding. They're trying to hold on to the way it was. But that way doesn't serve humanity anymore. So they are literally being cracked open. You know, religion is being cracked. People are leaving religion and finding spirituality. They're looking for answers outside of their institutions that they grew up with and so on. I mean, if you remember, you won't remember this, neither will I, because I wasn't, I wasn't born yet. But there was a certain point after World War Two, the US government was like, Oh, my God, you saved the world, and you and the allies and everything. Everything was like, hunky dory. And then yada yada yada, Nixon showed up, and then all of a sudden there was a crack in the system, and everyone's like, wait a minute, what? And then same thing with the Catholic Church, you know, unfallable. Then yada yada yada. You know what happened? And that seems to be happening all around in every institution. So this is just part of these Yuga cycles. So I'm bringing up I talk about this a lot on this on the show, because people want to know why everything seems so crazy right now. Was because the fighting is the last death rattle of the old system trying to hold on

Amish Shah 53:40
Created this financial monster that needs to keep you have to feed the financial monster. And, you know, the world is something like $100 trillion in debt. It's like, Well, where did all this money from? And where is it going? And how are we doing this? Like, it's all an illusion. It's part of the Maya that that they talk about in these, in these ancient texts, is that Maya, the illusion, will grasp people and trick them into thinking that this is reality.

Alex Ferrari 54:03
It's the allegory of the cave. It's essentially the allegory of the cave. Plato's Allegory of the Cave. It's this is not real. This is the matrix. Exactly we're in the we're in the matrix. This is the code matrix. We're all this is a simulation. But they were talking about simulation theory 1000s and 1000s of years ago, Leela. So were the Yeah, so were the aborigine. Aboriginal native people of Australia were talking about dream time. It's just another way of saying Maya, another way of saying simulation. It's fascinating. How much history, how much is in our history, how much is in our ancient text that we are slowly now starting not even that slow, but we're starting to discover more and more of the ancient wisdom that that people have either completely hidden, repressed, cut out, burned. I mean, I was in, I was at, I was in Mexico. I. At the at the Chichen Itza, and I was talking to the guide there, and he's like, yeah, the Spanish came in and burned all our tax. I mean, horrible, horrible. Like, are you serious? Why? Because of God, really, really, God really needed to burn started. So you can't use this

Amish Shah 55:17
From 1000s of years ago. You have to use what we wrote last year,

Alex Ferrari 55:21
That's right, because no matter where we are in human to human history, at the moment that you ask them, we got it all figured out. No matter where you are in history, you could be in the dark ages. And it's like, it's, it's totally Monty Python and the Holy Grail, like, bring out your dead. Bring out your dead. At that moment, they were like, we got it,

Amish Shah 55:41
We got it. This is the best we can get. Look at this

Alex Ferrari 55:46
No matter where time and we're doing it now, and we'll go next year, and we'll do the year after that, no matter where we are, we're like, I got it, I got it. It's Zeus. Zeus is God got it, okay, no, no, it's Apollo. Okay. It's Apollo. Now, it just never changed. It's raw, like it always is changing. So it's fascinating. But before we finish up, I wanted you to dive into the natural law a little bit that other wonderful film that we have on next level, Soul TV, about Ayurvedic and your journey through that. And it's a long it's a long story, but if you can make a short version of it, definitely of what happened to you, and then what Ayurvedic is and how it can actually help heal us.

Amish Shah 56:28
Yeah, I would love to share that. Thank you. So Ayurveda is an ancient science from India. There are many Vedas in India. Veda means knowledge, and these Vedas contained different knowledge. In each of the Vedas, one could be about rituals, one could be about health, one could be about something else. So the Ayurveda Ayur means life, and Veda means knowledge. So life knowledge, life wisdom. And they have a whole section in Ayurveda that's focused around health, specifically and lifestyle, health and lifestyle. And as I mentioned earlier on, on our call, was that I had gotten really sick from being very successful at a young age and partying and not knowing what was wrong with me. I was actually really sick near my deathbed, and I couldn't even function. I had to sell everything off, get rid of the house, got rid of the cars. I had seen tons of doctors by that time, and everyone all the doctors were like, Western doctors were like, nothing's wrong with you, like we did test and meanwhile, my cholesterol is 370, near adrenal failure, pre diabetic, pre thyroid. And I'm like, nothing's wrong with me. I am 29 years old, and I have 370 cholesterol and my stomach hurts and I get migraines and I have sinus infections and I have bloody stool and eczema, but nothing's wrong with me. Take these pills. Take these pills. Rub some lotion on your skin, and off you go. You'll be fine. Take this for depression. Take this for your gut. Take this, I think. And so I did a little while, and I was like, this is not working. It feel like I'm getting worse. They gave me surgery. I got surgery on my nose. Made it worse. I kept going down this path. It was like this mystery illness my whole entire life, to the point where the left side of my body just started turning hard. My face started numbing. On this left side, I couldn't move. My eyes, my lips on this side wouldn't move. I couldn't do this. It would this side would be flat, and this side would open. And I couldn't move my head to the left, because all of this was just hard. It was turning into a rock. My Blood report showed my elevated white blood cell count, so I had a huge infection in my body. And they're like, and the, you know, I tried everything, and I found Ayurveda. Around the same time, I was researching dorca and shot the documentary of Dwarka, and I said, I'm going to shoot a documentary on Ayurveda, because, guess what, there's no documentary in Ayurveda. Why is there no documentary on Ayurveda? This is such a brilliant science, and it focuses on those five elements that I mentioned. And so, when you're born, well, I should back up a little bit Ayurveda. Core premise is that we're made up of the five elements, and the whole entire universe is made up of the five elements, ether, which is also space, or empty space, air, which is, you know, there's wind outside, there's air, and going through our lungs, fire. There's a big ball of fire in the sky that seems to power our, our whole entire planet. And we are also 98.6 degrees hot. So we have some kind of fire element within us to keep our body warm. Water. There's oceans of water. Water falls from the sky. We are made up of approximately 70% or 80% water. And then Earth. Earth is the last element here. And Earth is, you know, like wood and soil and trees, and you know buildings and structures and brick, and you know our skin and our ligaments and our bones. That's Earth. It's solid, it's sedentary. And so everything in the universe is. Made up of these five elements. And these five elements, they combine to create what are called doshas. They're forces of nature. Now, when you combine ether and air, you get something called vata, or movement. Everything in the universe is constantly moving. There's planes flying in the sky. We're flying 200 kilometers per second. Supposedly, in outer space, there's digestive food moving through our digestive track almost all the time. Blood's moving through our body. So everything in the universe is constantly moving. When you combine fire and water, you get Pitta. Pitta is what we call transformation. Everything is constantly transforming. When you eat the food, it doesn't come out the same way your body transforms it. And it takes in the nutrients, takes in the energy that you need, and it starts using it. It transforms the energy electricity. When this light that's right here, it has to transform the electricity into the light. It doesn't just come out as light. So that's the process of transformation. The universe is always transforming, always transforming. And the last one is when you combine water and earth. And when you combine water and earth, you get kapha, or Kapha pH, but it's kapha, kapha the way we say it in the West. So Kapha is anything that has structure. Now there's buildings that we have structure. Our bodies have structure. How come we're not just a puddle of waters watching around on the ground saying, hey, well, it's because we have structure. We have, you know, skin that holds the water inside. We have ligaments, we have bones. We have structure to our bodies. And we are made up of these three, doshas, vata, pitta, kapha, movement, transformative, transformation and structure, and we have all three of these within us, and we have all five elements in our body, but in different amounts. So me and you have different amounts of these five elements, and these three doshas within us, just like the whole entire natural Kingdom does also. So the plants also have Bata, pitta, kapha and the five elements in certain quantities. So the science behind Ayurveda shows that when you're conceived, your parents also had a doshick makeup, a makeup of some of the five elements. Now what happens is, when you were conceived, you get 50% from your mother and 50% from your father, and that makes up your elemental balance, or your doshick makeup. Now, when you're born, you're born with that specific doshik makeup. So you're born pure, and we're all born pure. Usually, most of us are born healthy, not all of us, but a lot of us are born with some kind of doshick makeup, healthier, semi healthy, you know, and so that dosh makeup over time, as we live our life, we get toxins from according to Ayurveda, we don't just accumulate toxins from food. We accumulate toxins through our five senses, eyes, ears, taste, touch, smell, and those five senses digest. You have to digest everything that comes in through our senses. So we don't just digest our food. We digest our whole experience and what happens through our environment, through our food, through our media, through different things that we consume. Your dosha gets off balance. You have more Element of Fire, you might have more element of water, you might have more Element of Air, and that will throw up, that will throw off your dosha, vata, pitta, kapha, or movement structure or transformation. So then when you get off, that's when we get sick. We get diseased. We have symptoms. We have eczema, we have bloody noses, we have my back hurts. What's going on? What is that? All these come because the doshas went off balance for a longer period of time. And so Ayurveda says, Well, duh. Let's just look at the natural kingdom. And if your Pitta is off, if your fire and water are off, or you have too much fire and you're getting angry and you're pissed off and you're ra all the time, well, let's use Pitta pacifying foods. Let's use those foods and those herbs to calm your fire, and let's remove the things that are causing the fire, coffee, alcohol, spicy foods. They're all fine. They're all hot in nature. They have fire in them, so the more we consume it, the more our Pitta gets off balance. So Ayurveda knew this 1000s of years ago. And so when I was so sick, I turned to Ayurveda because it just seemed like, oh, duh. That just kind of makes sense, like, yeah. And I found out that I have celiac disease through genetic through a genetic test.

Amish Shah 1:04:38
Now, Western doctors told me that there was no way I was allergic to gluten. They refused to give me a gluten test. They refused to give me a genetic test. They said no on multiple occasions. So I did it myself, and I got a genetic test and it showed I had celiac disease. Celiac disease is not just a gluten intolerance. It's where my body literally. He fights itself and fights the small intestines to figure out what's what's like it just doesn't know how to process wheat, which is gluten, or any type of gluten or wheat, my body cannot process. So for 38 years of my life, I was consuming gluten. By the time I found out, I had eight ulcers, leaky gut, diverticulitis, crooked spine from the inflammation in my body, a millimeter polyp in my sinus cavity and all the all these issues, diverticulitis and cholesterol, all of this. So all of this was because of celiac. All of this was because of celiac. Wow. And I went deep into Ayurveda. This is when I was just like, Oh my god. So along this journey, I was filming all about Ayurveda. So I filmed like, Deepak Chopra and Sri, Sri Ravi Shankar, and all these amazing experts on Ayurveda, scientists, doctors, spiritual gurus all about Ayurveda, and I'd be interviewing them. So tell me about Ayurveda. And then after the cameras were off, and I'd be like, so if you had migraines and sinus infections and like, weird stool movements, like, what would you do? And so I started implementing some of their tax and while it was keeping me going, it wasn't solving my my issue, which was celiac. So when I found out, I was like, I am going all into Ayurveda, and followed a very strict regimen. And yoga, Ayurveda and meditation, changed my life forever. It literally saved my life. And so I put the documentary aside for many, many years to get healthy. And then I was sitting in meditation one day, and I was like, oh my god, I'm happy, I'm healthy, I'm strong. Business is good. Relationships are good. I feel more in tune with myself than I ever have in my whole entire life, and we just let our first retreat in India. And I cannot tell you how grateful and blessed I am to be able to do this work and see people's lives transformed. We have such a crazy health epidemic in the west and many other countries as well. And the modern system, we spend the most on health care, and we are the sickest, one of the sickest countries in the world, in the world, and we spend the most on health care. We are not doing something right, and knowing that this ancient wisdom and this ancient medicine can heal at that level, at the cellular epigenetic level. This is not treating symptoms. We're treating root cause issues. We're changing genetics through Ayurveda. This is unheard of. This is unheard of in the modern world. And you can do this through Ayurveda, and I can tell you that I healed myself, and I feel a million times better. I'm not 100% I have permanent damage that I have to work with, but I am 95% better than where I used to be. And when I took people through this punch of karma retreat, I see the difference in them, there's people who take our courses and they write into us. I just tried these 344, couple things and like, Whoa, that's a life game changer. So yeah, thank you for letting me share that. I know we didn't take a lot of time to get into the details of Ayurveda, but this science is remarkable. It is blowing up all over Europe. It's blowing up all across South America now, and it's slowly making its way over to the West in America, as the legal FDA and all these legal kind of big pharma puts blockers around it. It's still kind of seeping its way into the West, and I'm happy that's finally happening.

Alex Ferrari 1:08:43
Thank you so much for sharing that, man. It is. It's a pretty inspirational story, and if people want to see more about it, obviously they can watch it on Next Level Soul TV, and go deep down the rabbit hole of Ayurveda as well as Dwarka as well. If they want to see that,

Amish Shah 1:08:59
Yeah, watch it on your platform for sure.

Alex Ferrari 1:09:02
I appreciate that, man. I'm gonna ask you a few questions. Ask all of my guests, what is your definition of living a fulfilled life?

Amish Shah 1:09:10
Happiness and healthiness are the two things of life. And I know that sounds very cliche, but if you don't have your health, you can't be happy. It's very hard to be happy if you don't have your health. And you know living a fulfilled life, to me, means just understanding what, paying attention to your body, paying attention to what's going on in your thoughts, listening. Listening is such an important thing to your body, to your thoughts, listening to what is why is this coming up? What is going on, and for me, that has brought a tremendous awareness of so many things, from health, wealth, relationships, every dynamic has changed in my life as I started understanding who I am, as I started understanding more about my health, understanding how my mind is actually. Functioning and working, and to me, that is the fulfilled life, because I can live life with ease and grace now, because anything that comes my way, I have the patience and understanding to understand that this is always for my better, that the universe is conspiring for you, not against you, and that the universe is always sending you signals. So when we are sitting there, like, why is this happening to me? Oh my god, like you're bashing your head. Oh, I hate this. There's a reason. It's for awareness. It's a lesson. It's because you didn't listen to the signals for a very long time, and the universe has to slap you in the face and say, Now I'm telling you what to do. Like, yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:10:44
If you had a chance to go back in time and speak to little Amish, what advice would you give him?

Amish Shah 1:10:49
Wow, money is not everything.

Alex Ferrari 1:10:55
Absolutely, by the way, when you told me your story, of like, you know that you were very successful up until the age of 30, I wasn't nearly as successful as you, but I did extremely well. Early on, I came out of the gate as an editor in Florida, and I was making stupid money, you know, for me, living at home, no overhead, and I was just just money was being spent like nothing, and I was just going crazy, and I self imploded. I went all the way down to almost bankruptcy, and that was a few days away from signing the paperwork to like, finally got it, pulled myself back out of it. But if I would have been given your kind of revenue, I would have absolutely self, like, destroyed myself, as you did. It's, you know, success early on is a very difficult thing. It takes a strong soul, an old soul, or someone who's been guided very well by their family.

Amish Shah 1:11:50
That's exactly the truth. Yeah, because there are people who make money at young age and they're they're fine, they live great lives, yeah,

Alex Ferrari 1:11:57
Oh, absolutely. But you and me apparently

Amish Shah 1:12:00
We had some Karma to deal with.

Alex Ferrari 1:12:05
Apparently, we had some karma to work out. Um, now what advice would little Amish give you today?

Amish Shah 1:12:10
Oh, I like that. One play more. Yeah, have more fun life. Life is meant to be enjoyed. It's supposed to have fun, and you're supposed to not all the drama that's around us is not meant to be internalized. It's just we're watching a movie, and so have fun, play with it.

Alex Ferrari 1:12:33
How do you define God or Source?

Amish Shah 1:12:37
So the thing that what comes up for me, I believe that we all have the divine inside of us. Everything has divine inside of it. You, animals, plants, insects. Everything is divine in nature. And for me, the connection to myself, to my divine self, is, is, is, I think that connection is divine. I think that's my connection to my source, is the connection to myself, and not just the connection to myself, but nature around me too. I think nature is the most intelligent form of God that we can experience. If you forget God, and you forget the connection to yourself, and you forget the connection to divine, go to a forest for three days, go to a jungle for three days and look around and witness the diversity of the world in that and how precisely perfect it was created. That is the work of the Divine at hand. That is my connection to nature. My connection to Divine is my connection to nature as well. And that is quite literally my definition of God. What I could go into more details of fractals and all this kind of stuff, but I won't go that far down.

Alex Ferrari 1:14:06
I appreciate you not going into the quantum into the quantum realm, sir. What is love?

Amish Shah 1:14:12
You know, love is living life with no judgments and accepting everything that happens as it is.

Alex Ferrari 1:14:19
Coming from your background, I'd love to hear this. This, this answer, how do you define liberation in this lifetime?

Amish Shah 1:14:29
You know, I am a student of the Vedas, and in the Vedas, they say there's four aims of life. Those four aims of life are artha, which is work, or your craft, or your career. Making money is a part of it's an aim of life is actually to have a career and be sustainable. So that's one aim of life. The next one is comma, which is pleasure? Right? Pleasure is what you do for having fun. What do you do for having fun? We all gotta have fun. We have to enjoy life. The third one is, what is your purpose? What is your dharma? What. Is your mission here on earth? What are your morals, your ethics? How do you live those so there's purpose, morals and ethics, fun and your craft. And then the fourth one is moksha, which is actually liberation. What it means to be liberated, a liberated soul, what it means to freedom. What does that actually mean to me is that I'm in alignment with the other three. I'm living my highest purpose. I'm living and only doing the things I want in my career, and I'm having a blast doing all of it with my friends, with my family, no bad relationships. So purpose, pleasure, craft and career, and if I do the things I love in those three aspects, Moksha or liberation comes automatically. It comes as a byproduct of those living in alignment with those three.

Alex Ferrari 1:15:53
Beautiful answer. And finally, what is the ultimate purpose of life?

Amish Shah 1:15:58
Do good and have fun and love unconditionally, love everything.

Alex Ferrari 1:16:03
And where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing in the world Brother?

Amish Shah 1:16:08
You can go to thenaturallaw.com to check out the natural law documentary on Ayurveda. And sorry, the summit. We have a summit and bunch of other stuff on there as well, and some great content on there. And if you want to check out Dwarka, you can go to ancientexplorers.com and we have a whole entire web series of content on there, including the Dwarka documentary. And, yeah, those are the two main main projects that I'm working on right now. And if you want to find out more about me personally, you can go to amish-shah.com or hyphen meaning like dash. So amish-shah.com and you can find links to my social media and some of the other projects that I'm working on as well.

Alex Ferrari 1:16:53
Do you have any parting messages for the audience?

Amish Shah 1:16:57
Um, thank you so much for Alex to you for this opportunity, and for everyone out there, our wisdom of the future is in the past, and we can unlock our future by looking at ancient wisdom and bringing it back to life. And where we're at in this world right now is we have the ability of technology and ancient wisdom, and we can actually combine those two. And so I implore you to go out and and research this and learn about it, because it's so powerful and so healing, and it's the science of the future.

Alex Ferrari 1:17:36
Amish, it has been such a pleasure, not only having you on the show, meeting with you, collaborating with you on getting your amazing documentaries on Next Level Soul TV, and in any small way we could throw a spotlight on the amazing work you're doing in the world. Brother it's my pleasure. So thank you so much for being on the show, and thank you for helping awaken This planet, my friend.

Amish Shah 1:17:56
Thank You. Thank you all.