The True Mary Magdalene with William Henry

Alex Ferrari 0:00
Where did you find stuff to research like it wasn't anywhere

William Henry 0:02
Suddenly there was this huge just influx of material about the bloodline of Jesus, Mary Magdalene, a lot of these ideas that became the Da Vinci Code. That's the highest compliment I get, is people telling me, You gave me back my Christianity because of my mystical perspective on it. Once they see what is there, especially the Light Body, resurrection and ascension teachings, all of a sudden they're like, Oh, I've just reclaimed part of myself that I thought I had lost or I was denied through the lens of the Essenes, who were who had called in this avatar, and their claim in the Dead Sea scrolls that they were living with angels, I mean literally, living with extraterrestrials and who are teaching them how to transfigure their bodies into light, to become angels themselves. Truth is coming out of the ground. It's irrepressible. It's unstoppable. And what an exciting time to be participating in this in this journey.

Alex Ferrari 0:58
Now, before we jump into this episode, if this conversation resonates with you. Please, like subscribe and share this with whoever you feel that needs to hear it. Your support helps us keep bringing this information out into the world and helps us awaken this planet. Thank you. I'd like to welcome to the show. William Henry man, how you doing?

William Henry 1:44
Wonderful. Thank you for having me.

Alex Ferrari 1:41
Thank you so much for coming down to Next Level Soul Studios, man, I appreciate it

William Henry 1:45
My pleasure. It's an honor.

Alex Ferrari 1:46
I've been I've been watching your stuff for a while from the you know, all the ancient alien stuff that you've done, and ascension stuff, and I mean, you're a wealth of information, my friend, and you're, as they say, an OG in this space, because you've been doing it before. It was cool.

William Henry 2:02
That's true. I was doing it before, gosh, before the internet.

Alex Ferrari 2:10
Well, now just a to both of us. Yeah, you were doing it in the 80s. You started.

William Henry 2:17
I started. Well, I started reading and researching in 1982 I was growing up,

Alex Ferrari 2:23
Where did you find stuff to research? Like it wasn't anywhere.

William Henry 2:26
No, it really wasn't. I mean, it was Holy Blood, Holy Grail. 1982 that sort of launched everything. And then we went for a few years, and all of a sudden there was this huge, just influx of material about the bloodline of Jesus, Mary Magdalene, a lot of these ideas that became the Da Vinci Code and to 2005 something like that, and all of a sudden that, that just shifted everything

Alex Ferrari 2:48
That's, it's fascinating. I've had a lot of people who were at the beginning of the of this kind of awakening that we're going through right where a lot of the stuff I always joke is like, Yeah, normally you'd be in the back of a new age bookstore somewhere, sure, you know, oh yeah, with some sage and like, three people will show up for your book signing, right? Yeah, yeah, that would be the end of it when now it's selling out theaters.

William Henry 3:10
It's incredible, the transformation we always anticipated. Where it happened. I remember talking with Greg Braden, 1994 Nashville. We both had hair down to here, yes. And

Alex Ferrari 3:20
Greg has, by the way, best hair. Yeah, I know best hair. And hands down, I would kill for his hair.

William Henry 3:26
I don't even get in the competition anymore. It's him and Randall Carlson, and Greg always takes it. And I'm like, you know, somewhere in there, but, but, yeah, so it's like, you know, 94 you know, this is all going to transform. It's coming. And I remember we used to talk about, like this ascension and awakening was like a merry go round. And in 94 it was kind of going about this speed. Then in 2000 it starts speeding up. 2012 is like this. Now it's something like this, and

Alex Ferrari 3:54
It's insane what's happening even in the short time that, I mean, I've been kind of tracking this. I mean, I've studied spirituality most of my life, since my 20s. So I was always, I was, I'm a recovering Catholic. So as a recovering Catholic, I started to go off to find other ways of philosophies and Taoism and and Confucianism and Hinduism and Buddhism and every isms that they had Christianity. Yeah, exactly. And then I started going back. It took me a while to go back to Christianity because of the bad taste that that the religion left in my mouth, right? I had someone on the show. His name is Aaron abke, who said very so beautifully. He's like, No one leaves Christianity because of Jesus's teachings. That's true. They need for Paul's teachings, right? Stop it, yeah. And that's a whole other conversation, right? But, it was the when I started going back and going deeper into the more mystical and esoteric teachings, which are the true teachings of Christ, for sure. I started to kind of understand more and start falling back in love with Christ and His teachings and stuff, once I got rid of all the dogma,

William Henry 4:59
Right! Yeah. Yeah, and that's the highest compliment I get, is people telling me, You gave me back my Christianity because of my mystical perspective on it, and especially the artwork, because they had been taught raised to almost fear the artwork, it was so revered, or it's a high up in a basilica or a church or cathedral, they don't really connect with but once they see what is there, especially the the light, body, resurrection and ascension teachings, all of a sudden they're like, Oh, I've just reclaimed part of myself that I thought I had lost or I was denying. So it's really, really powerful.

Alex Ferrari 5:30
Yeah. And doing this show, I get to speak to lovely experts like yourself, and I learned so much out of just my own pure curiosity. Everyone gets to watch my questions, but it's truly, I'm I'm being, being very greedy and asking questions that I want to know the answers. Sure, and I've learned so much in regards to a lot of the true teachings where Jesus was those 18 years, which I'd love to get into, right? All of that kind of stuff. But so first and foremost, let's go down, because there's 1000 things we're going to talk about today. Okay, great. So first things let's talk about is the Bible, which is always one of my favorite things to talk about, because it is the source of the story that we tell ourselves as Catholics, Christians and so on, based on this book, which is full of wonderful stories, but also counter energies. That makes no sense. So I was speaking to another expert the other day where it's like, well, the Old Testament and the New Testament don't really, it's like they literally slapped two books together, sure, because Yahweh not very Christ like, right? And Jesus not very Yahweh like, right? And Christ never, really, never said that he believed in Yahweh, right? He never said those words. He said, My Father, the Father, right? But they never Yeah, because it's another religion,

William Henry 6:50
Well, exactly. And Jesus is a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek, which is not a Yahwist kind of tradition either. It's the separate mystical you had the Cohens. These are the high priests that were devoted to Yahweh. And then you have the Kumaras, which is what Melchizedek was, was a kumara. And they're all about ascension. They could care less about any of the dogma who you're worshiping. It's all about, how do we transfigure into an angelic state and ascend into the kingdom of heaven, or the New Jerusalem, as they started to refer to it.

Alex Ferrari 7:20
And it's that sounds very similar to what a yogi would do, yes, in that tradition, yeah, where they're just finding enlightenment, right? And it's the same thing once you are able to pull down the the veil of this reality. I always use Neo from the Matrix as a reference points, like, once you understand the code, right? You can play with it in it, and you can do magical things, like Neo does in the matrix, right? Which is very Christ like, which is very Buddha like, which is very Yogananda like. And many of these master yogis and masters who've walked the earth are doing that. So it's, I always find that interesting, again, because of my perspective of speaking to so many people, like, from different walks of life, right? I love connecting the dots. I'm like, Well, that just sounds like that and that sounds like it's just different flavors of the same thing,

William Henry 8:03
For sure, for sure. And I had a benefit. I lived in Nashville for 40 years, and I lived five minutes away from the Vanderbilt University to Vander Lee Library, which is the largest collection of Judaica studies in the world. If you want to know about the Essenes, as I did, this is the place to go. And so after the Dead Sea scrolls were discovered in 1947 they were embargoed until the mid 90s, when the University of California illegally published their original set of photos of the Dead Sea Scrolls. And then it was only in the early 2000s that you start getting your PhD dissertations about the scrolls and what they're actually saying. And so I had seen a lot of interest from the channeler perspective, about the Essenes, Edgar, Cayce, Dolores Cannon, this sort of material, wonderful material, but I wanted to get up to the academic level and see what they were actually saying about the Essenes and their proclamation that Jesus was an avatar that they called in to assist us in our transformation, to reveal Knowledge withheld from humanity, and ultimately, how humans can become angels. And so that that just gripped me, that that was everything I wanted to know, and that's in the Dead Sea Scrolls. That's the Dead Sea Scrolls. That's their community rule, that that is their constitution that they they proclaimed. They were calling in, in their words, a high Celestial Being who would assist humanity in this transformation and reveal knowledge long lost to humans. And as my thinking evolved on it, I of course thought thinking, okay, Yeshua was that avatar, most certainly. But then as I continue to evolve in my research, I'm realizing, well, maybe it's actually the Mother Mary, who is the Avatar who parthenogenically conceives this avatar brings him in the virgin birth. And that whole story about Mary's connection to this lineage of priestesses going back to ancient Egypt and then ultimately to the Pleiades. It sounds so channeled and so sci fi, but it's right there in the Dead Sea Scrolls. It's telling us this is who they actually were.

Alex Ferrari 9:57
No wonder the Vatican wanted to shut that down.

William Henry 9:59
Oh. It was so way too hot to handle. I mean, and the early and there's still stuff in that vault, without a doubt, without a doubt, and this is part of what's happening right now. I mean, Graham Hancock's fight for our past, right? And it really is a fight, because there are powers that be that are covering up, planting olive trees over Gobekli Tepe in southeastern Turkey, so we can't get access for 150 years. What these are the ultimate answers for all of the human race that are in this temple complex or in these documents in the Vatican, and they're withholding them, and there should be mass public outrage about events such as this, because in this vital period of transformation that we're in right now, the answers to our future are in our past, absolutely, and that's why this is so critical right now,

Alex Ferrari 10:47
Information like this is starting to seep out into the public because of these conversations, because of the this explosion of conscious media, essentially, Yeah, that's basically starting in YouTube, but will grow, I think it already. I mean, look, our show gets higher ratings in CNN, right? You know. So we, you know. And God forbid, someone like Joe Rogan, who's not in our space, but who, you know, dwarfs right network television or any I mean, the ratings that he gets every week are insane, exactly. So the alternative media to the mainstream is taking over. There's no doubt, in the next five years, definitely, within the next 10, that the old, the old The old guard will fall. Oh, without a doubt, it's falling already. They're dying. They're hurting. Hollywood is hurting. Oh, yeah, all that's hurting because people are. They're tired of it, yeah. They want the truth.

William Henry 11:39
That's exactly right, and the truth is coming out of the ground. It's irrepressible. It's unstoppable. And what an exciting time to be participating in this, in this journey.

Alex Ferrari 11:49
So let's go into the Bible real quick. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the concept of hell, which is from my understanding, a misinterpretation of something that Jesus said that is like he was talking about, like, if you don't get your lives straight, you're gonna go to the, I forgot the name of the shale. No, the lake, the lake, the lake fire. Yeah, you know I'm talking, yes, I do that one, yeah. And that's where it was a garbage dump, right? The garbage dump for Jerusalem, or it was in Jerusalem, I think so it's a garbage dump for Drew make you guys don't get you, you're gonna end up there, right? And they grabbed that, turned it into hell, and then Dante showed up and really helped, right? And that's where the concept of hell, because there is no hell in the Old Testament, no because Judy and in the Jewish tradition, there is no hell, right,

William Henry 12:33
Right. In the Jewish tradition, well, they have Sheol, which is that afterlife realm, but that's largely modeled on the ancient Egyptian texts about the book of the gates, the Book of the Dead and so forth, this journey into the afterlife realm, where you go through this period of testing. This is the the ultimate quest in the ancient Egyptian tradition, is to follow Osiris and his resurrection to Orion. And in between, you had to go to this, this place, the judgment hall, literally the Halls of Amenti. They called it, which is some believe underneath or beneath Capri pyramid on the Giza Plateau. This is current thinking right now for a lot of people. And so then this becomes the basis for a lot of these afterlife journeys, the journey into the Bardo and the Tibetan tradition is very correspondent here in America. The Native Americans practice the path of souls, yes, which also has this journey into the underworld or this hell zone.

Alex Ferrari 13:27
Let's go back to Zeus in ancient Egypt. Yeah, exactly. I mean ancient Greece,

William Henry 13:32
Yeah. And it's so important because, as I like to say, we, we all have family plans, we have vacation plans, retirement plans, health plans, what's your ascension plan? Right? You came from somewhere else. You're here temporarily, and you're going to go someplace after this life is over, where are you going and how are you going to get there? And the answer is, there's multitudes of answers. But the point is, is that this journey has been well mapped out. The geography of the afterlife is, is pretty well known. And what ancient cultures used to do that's different from what we do, is they used to rehearse their afterlife journey until they could concretize it in their mind. So it literally became a reality for them. They knew, Oh, I don't want to go to hell. I want to avert that. I'm going to go through the seven holes, or holes in space, like Isaiah did, or some of these other figures, and ultimately get to this place of light and love and have my ascension.

Alex Ferrari 14:26
That's amazing. We're going to get into ascension a little bit, because I definitely want to go down that road. One of my other favorite things to discuss is the 18 years. Oh yeah, that Jesus, right? The missing, the missing parts. I always, I always say, when I was in Catholic school. I was like, you know, Jesus was born. Then the last time we talked about him is he's 12, I think 12 or 13, something like that, right? And then yada yada yada, yeah, he comes in on a donkey. I'm really curious about the yada yada yada, right? The nuns would say, don't ask questions like that. Oh, right. The priests would say, don't ask questions like no one asks questions like that. And, and if you can't ask. A question, then, then this, there's that, there's definitely nothing. There's no real foundation, right? Where a lot of the great Yogi's that I found in the yoga tradition, they go question everything. I say, oh, right question at all, right? If it doesn't resonate with you, yeah, leave it and move on. Exactly, you know, they're not fearful like being of being challenged, right? Because they also bringing in truth. So truth, when it's true, you can challenge it all you want, but it's true, yeah, so if and if it just doesn't ring for you, that's fine, but sure, so from your understanding, I won't go into my theories yet, but I love to hear your theories on Where was Jesus in those 18 years?

William Henry 15:37
Well, let's first, let's back up to his time in Egypt. Immediately after his birth, Herod calls out to murder all the newborn male children, correct? And so Joseph Mary, the Holy Family, the whole entourage, goes to Egypt. They go to Heliopolis. That's in the Bible, or is not, that is in the Bible. Yes, they fled to Egypt. And there's all these beautiful images. My favorite is when you go to old Cairo and you see the churches that are still there that they proclaim the Holy Family rested here. Here is the Well, here's these amazing depictions of the three pyramids in the background, Jesus, Mary, Joseph on a donkey. They got their boat over here, so maybe they probably sailed across the Mediterranean. They came over to Egypt, or they may have taken a they also have the land trail, but very important that he goes to Heliopolis, because this is the site of the original I call it star Walker Mystery School in ancient Egypt. This is the astronomer priests. This is knowledge brought over from the time before the flood. They know who built the pyramids, how they did it, why they did it, how to operate them, and everything there is about the ancient Egyptian star religion. And there, there's, this is where the Magi come from as well. They're from Egypt. They're also from, from Iran. So it's perfectly natural that they would have fled to Heliopolis, to this safe place, to this original Mystery School, where then he probably spends, I would say, you know, just estimating three to four years in his in his youth, in his youth. I mean, this is very young, so we're talking about 234, yeah, so on to somewhere in there, and maybe as long as up to 18, okay, all the entire time, possibly, I mean, because I will call my Son out of Egypt, this is part of the prophecy, okay, so, and he's, he's the new Moses. He's still the new law,

Alex Ferrari 17:24
And there's still 12 years left of him wandering. So we talk about that.

William Henry 17:27
And so he has a wealthy benefactor, his uncle, Joseph of Arimathea, wealthy tin trader of operating tin mines up in Cornwall. They're floating their way up there on boats going to Glastonbury in England, site of a major druidic University. Old Time Religion there the original. We call it pagan, but it really, it's elemental. It's all, yeah, right, exactly. So he's there. It very firmly rooted in English tradition. Jesus was at Glastonbury.

Alex Ferrari 17:56
And where is this information? Is this still in the Bible, or is

William Henry 17:59
This this is outside the Bible now, right? This is British history, British legend and lore that Jesus was brought to England, which was the later becomes the site of the first Christian church. They argued that the first church was in Ephesus, in Turkey, but in Glastonbury, they say, Oh no, no, no, it was here. And they have all these this, this well ingrained history and legend that Jesus built a temple to his mother. They call it Our Lady's dowry.

Alex Ferrari 18:23
Is that close to London, or is it?

William Henry 18:25
It's about two hours drive from London. It's on the coast, up near Bristol. It's in the southwest. It's about an hour from Stonehenge. There's a conical mound there that reminded Joseph of Arimathea, of Mount Tabor, where the transfiguration took place. It's a conical, man made or man shaped mound that has concentric rings going up at almost like a labyrinth. I'm sure there's a train

Alex Ferrari 18:49
I'm heading over there.

William Henry 18:50
You've got to go to Glastonbury, yeah, so I think you don't just close to that. It's about an hour away. Yeah, yeah. And it's magnificent. It's beautiful, beautiful place. So most certainly England is on the list of where he would have been trained. And then of course, you have the Nicholas rurick quest following the lost years between 18 and 30, or, excuse me, 12 and 30, where he goes into not just Egypt, but Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, over into India, Mongolia in Tibet. Nicholas Rurik claims he followed that trail. Went to all the monasteries where Saint Isa, that's his name. In the east Isa, where he trained, where the monks tell of His presence there, what he learned how to do. And ultimately, Nicholas Roark claimed that that's where the Holy Grail was to be found. Was in Mongolia, in a place called Shambhala. And this is a historical quest that took place in the 1930s on behalf of President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, they were actively looking for the Grail, and Rurik claimed he followed those missing years.

Alex Ferrari 19:55
Very. Indiana Jones, totally. Indiana Jones, yeah, that's fascinating. So I've heard, I've heard everything you've said, London's new for me. So England's new, yep, I knew it was India. Is India and Egypt and Tibet, okay, but the other, the other countries, Iran, Iraq, Turkey, Mongolia, I don't make sense, because they're all right. They're all right there, right? Why wouldn't like he's going to travel through exactly. I was told to that wherever he went, he eventually got, got kicked out, especially as older, as older he got, because he was a troublemaker. Jesus is a troublemaker from the time he was a kid. Yeah, he would just tell, he would tell, you know, he would speak power. He speak truth to power. Yeah. He's like, would you get this all BS, what do you? And they're like, Jesus thinks it's time for you to move on.

William Henry 20:40
Yeah, precocious child. He would turn clay pigeons into live birds,

Alex Ferrari 20:44
Really, yeah. And this is, and he learned this from where?

William Henry 20:48
From the Magi, probably at Heliopolis. I mean,

Alex Ferrari 20:51
Because, from my understanding, Jesus did not come in fully formed like he fully formed, meaning that he wasn't a master when he walked in. He had to learn along the way. There are very few Matt from throughout history, ascended masters, or masters who come in fully formed, like as a child. They just like, I know. I know who I am. I know what I'm here to do, right? There's a spirituality to him. There was obviously something around Jesus, yeah, special. No question for sure. But he went and trained with all of these people, learned these things. Is that what that what your understanding is,

William Henry 21:23
Yeah and, I mean, it's kind of acknowledged that the reason why the Magi, the three Magi, there was probably more, why they came to greet him, because they were greeting an avatar greater, or a magi greater than they were. And they knew, and they knew and they there's all these stories about him debating the elders in the temple as a youth? Yeah, yeah, you know what are you talking eight, 810, years old, maybe then you couldn't, like you can do that now, let alone back then, right? So it's such a fascinating story, and especially when you look at it through the lens of the Essenes who were, who had called in this avatar, and their claim in the Dead Sea scrolls that they were living with angels, I mean literally living with extraterrestrials, and who were teaching them how to transfigure their bodies into light to become angels themselves.

Alex Ferrari 22:10
Sowhen they say the term angels, it could have been ETS or something.

William Henry 22:14
Exactly. We're not talking like the one definition of angel is a messenger. No, these were actual physical beings that had manifested in Qumran, and this is why the Essenes were so freakish about purity, from the water they drank, to the food that they ate, to their compound, to people that were allowed around them. And it's because they're living with these other worldly beings

Alex Ferrari 22:39
That's fascinating. Did you ever hear the theory that he also got to Japan?

William Henry 22:45
No, I have not heard the Japanese,

Alex Ferrari 22:47
So I hadn't heard it either. But then I started doing research upon it. And in Japan there is, there are sites, just like in Egypt, that they claim that Jesus was there. And I'm like, that one's a bit of a stretch for me, because that's a hell of a drive, right? It's a hell of a but

William Henry 23:03
With a fleet of ships that Joseph possessed, I mean, ocean going vessels, we know they had them. It wasn't on land. They had to go through. They would go by by boat, or the most extravagant interpretation, they teleported. Well, there's that too, right?

Alex Ferrari 23:18
But it's fascinating. It's all kind of shrouded in mystery, but a lot of information started to come out. There is this film that we have on our platform called Jesus in India. It's a beautiful film by a filmmaker named Paul David. And they went and it was based on a book, and they went through India and interviewed different monks and different yogis and all of this, trying to track them. And they found, apparently, and this is where, this is another conversation, the crucifixion and the death of Jesus. They stated, there's a space between Pakistan and India. Okay, that that the whoever controls it comes back and forth, depending on the year, you know, like we all want to now, know you own it, now, that kind of thing, so, but it's a holy space, and they claim that Mary mother, Mary's buried there. Oh, that this is, this is, this is in the movie. So I was, like, fascinated with it that Jesus didn't actually die, or when he resurrected, he was able to go on right, have children with Mary Magdalene, and we could talk about Mary Magdalene in a minute. Magdalene in a minute. And then they went back to India, or they went back to the east when they left, and they went in there with cameras, and they're not allowed to shoot. It was, it's a holy place. They built a giant antenna, but they built everything around this space. It's like this, what like, it's Pakistan and India, like, there's no real, yeah, connection supposedly there, right? But they understand that this is a sacred space, and you're not allowed to shoot there. You're not about but it's supposedly where Mother Mary is buried. She died along the route back to India where Jesus lived, apparently. Now we're getting to Da Vinci. Code lived, apparently, with Mary Magdalene had children, right? The Bloodline, which you could probably talk a little bit more about.

William Henry 25:05
Yeah, that's such a fascinating, amazing idea of the bloodline. It's not, it's something I've followed just out of interest. Yeah, it's fun, but to me, it's somewhat of a dead end in the sense that, oh, it leads to special people who are only the special people, right? The bloodline? Yeah, well, right, that instead of, okay, well, what if there's, how did they become these special people? Is the other question, can I transform myself into that level of existence? And that's what always fascinated me.

Alex Ferrari 25:35
And then Jesus, though, is supposedly, he was never, he never came out and said, Hey, worship me. Never once, right? He, he wasn't. He's like, No, everything I could do you can do. And more exactly, he is an example of what you can become. All of these avatars, for sure.

William Henry 25:50
Yeah, that was the huge flip of seniority. If you want to give it a term, original Christianity, they call it primitive Christianity. Of course. Pay no attention to this. This is what they were actually,

Alex Ferrari 26:01
This is the closest time to actually Jesus's teachings, right? Ignore that, right.

William Henry 26:06
Just get our later interpretation. But in that original teaching, it was all this flip about the Essenes had a grudge against the temple priesthood. They believed that the Temple of Solomon had become disgraced, and they decided they were going to just no longer follow a temple mysticism. They were going to use the human body as the temple. They were going to focus everything on the potential of the body as the pillar of the temple and as the temple itself. And so that was a major flip in consciousness, where that at that time absolutely and so that becomes what Jesus's demonstration ultimately is with his his crucifixion, resurrection, ascension and return, is that this is what is hardwired into our DNA, his body, our body exactly the same, anatomically, right? Biologically, no different. Maybe we're a little bit augmented in some ways, with 5g and things like that. But essentially, we're the same body. Biologically. What he knew how to do was how to make this thing go, how to utilize it as a literally as a portal, which is what or a stairway to heaven, which is the way the mystics thought of as the human body.

Alex Ferrari 27:15
So it sounds to me very and again, I'll go back to the yoga traditions. When a yogi finds enlightenment, it is this, it's the same body. We all have the same body, right? But they're able to do things with their body that the normal human being can't precisely. I think it was the Maharishi that they gave him some mushrooms, and he and it was a bag of, like, you know, psychedelic mushrooms, right, peyote or something like that. And he's like, Sir, could you, would you like to try one? He's like, Sure, he ate the whole bag. And he's like, sir, Master. I mean, your guru is, it's gonna be. He's like, I'm gonna it did nothing to he complain. He's like, How can I go to a place that I live in? Oh, that's great. In that beautiful story, they are able to do things. And I love studying the Yogis and the Ascended Masters. They're able to do things with their bodies, able to do things, manifest things. There's these powers that they have, levitation, bio, location,

William Henry 28:14
Invisibility, invisibility, instant materialization of wishes,

Alex Ferrari 28:18
Exactly. And it's just like, you know, manifestation, instant manifestation, right? You know, there are masters walking the earth today, very few, but that have these kind of abilities as well. And it's, it always fascinated me, because, as you I was like, Well, how can I get there, right? How can I, what do I need to do? Do I need to go to the Himalayas for 40 years? Like, how did, right? What's the key? And that's why I think my quest throughout my life is to kind of study, very similar to yours, yeah, study as much as I can, to figure out how I can do it and teach others to do the same,

William Henry 28:50
Absolutely, absolutely. And to me, you know, you talk about the yogis. I always loved the quote from yogi, Yogi Berra,

Alex Ferrari 28:58
The great yogi.

William Henry 29:00
He said he was talking about baseball, and he, what he said was 90% of it is half mental, yeah. And I think that applies to everything, ascension, every, you know, activating our abilities, 90% of it is half mental. If you believe you can, you can. If you believe you can, you won't.

Alex Ferrari 29:18
Both ways are true. You're right. Both ways are true, right?

William Henry 29:20
But on those keys, you know, something that I developed, developed over the years that kind of separated me from other researchers in this area, was my focus on sacred art as a modality for activating the latent capabilities of the body.

Alex Ferrari 29:34
So explain this to me.

William Henry 29:35
So from ancient Egypt through Buddhism, early Christianity, with the icon makers, they all originally taught that the image can show you the way that we're dealing with avatars, whether it be the Buddha, the Amitabha, Amitabha, Buddha of Infinite Light, Yeshua, the Christ. They're avatars, and as avatars, they have the ability to transmit their vibration through images, especially. Especially where you make eye to eye, soul to soul, contact with the painting. So like, for example, in a Christian icon of the Transfiguration, which were prolific in the earliest part of Christianity, they would show Jesus bursting into light in the transfiguration, when he took the disciples up to the mountain and revealed Himself, His face shone like the sun and his clothing became white as light. So this is a transfiguration into plasma that we're talking about. He phased out of flesh and blood into his celestial body, his light body, and then back. And then they created these paintings, these icons of that moment. And the idea was, is, and that the Gnostic text that corresponded with that said, the image will show you the way, or enter through the image. So the through the image, Christ could transmit his vibration. And now we know neuro scientifically, what's going on. We have mirror neurons in our neocortex that fire, that act as if, if you see someone reaching for like this cup right here, or this glass, you're watching me do it, and your mirror neurons are firing as if you are performing that action. But you have an editor that says, Hey, chill out, man, that spills. But if you can unleash that editor, and you're looking at an image of Christ bursting into light, or Padmasambhava, the rainbow light body, guru in Tibet, manifesting the rainbow light body. The idea is, is that your your thoughts, your cells, your your neuro circuitry, are beginning to act as if you are manifesting that light body. And that's how they would teach the light body throughout the ancient world.

Alex Ferrari 31:36
That is, that is fascinating, because when I went to Italy, I was, I was, you know, going throughout Italy. And, you know, there you can't, you can't, not go into churches, right there. There's more churches in Starbucks. I mean, it's, I mean, every little town has, and you walk in, it's like, oh, yeah, Donatello painted that. Yeah, what is happening here? And, you know, went into the Vatican. I went to St Peter's Basilica. And, I mean, the art, yeah, is so profound. Their energy there, regardless of the dogma, regardless of what the Vatican has done over the course of the last 1500 years or so. Yeah, it's very powerful. I mean, you look at the the La pretra, when you walk in, and you look over and you see it's like, it's called a la pretrari. Keep forgetting that. But when Jesus is being held by Mary, yes, at the crucifixion, yeah, you sit there and you just like, it's so impactful. And just you can't look anywhere in St Peter's Basilica and not be awed, yeah, by something, right? And I said to my wife at the time, like, and at the time, my wife, I said, No, if you are an uneducated person from, you know, the hills or from the fields, and you walk into something like that and you've never seen anything, have no reference point, right? And someone tells you, God, built this, you're like, absolutely, yeah, absolutely, you must listen to what I say. Well, of course, you're the authority, yeah, very similar to the Mayans with their priests and those giant temples that they built, those pyramids. They're like, obviously this was not built by, like, all this kind of stuff, right? It's pretty fascinating to see the power of that and the Vatican. You got to give it to them, greatest marketing propaganda campaign in history. They basically paid for the greatest pieces of art that will reign forever. They were the Benefactor absolutely and everywhere you go, and Jesus is generally sad all the time. He's never happy. He's always sad. There's always some blood involved. There's, I mean, that's the one thing we both, like my wife and I, were both walking around all these museums are like, yeah, man, Jesus is pissed. I mean, he's always beat up. I know that's why I like having a meditating Jesus on the wall here behind me to kind of counterbalance that. I know it's amazing, isn't it?

William Henry 33:51
Yeah, I know. And I I'm always looking for the images. Jesus was not podgy either. He was so fit, so CrossFit trained as a yogi his whole life, preparing for crucifixion, resurrection, ascension and return. I mean, he had a good cardio, good cardio. And I actually had an Olympic bodybuilder, trainer. Point me out. Point this out to me looking at the image of the Shroud of Turin. He's like you ever looked at that guy at? How fit? I mean, the musculature was not just from swinging a hammer as a carpenter. This is from yogic practice, imagination, imagination infused really developing that body. And it's like, wow, that's a whole different image. You know, some people talk about Jesus as this ass kicking, warrior type. And we don't worry warrior monk, you know, the Templar kind of model, but we don't really get that image of what, what, how did he train What did he eat? And what was, what was his thought process in terms of the transfiguration and activating the body and so forth? Those are fascinating questions.

Alex Ferrari 34:49
So I've, I've have a researcher friend of mine who is studying the diet of Jesus, and he started to now because of what he's learned, he's changed. Changed his his diet. Of fascinating he was, he's an ex bodybuilder, okay, professional bodybuilder. There you go. And he now has become vegetarian, hmm? Because he goes, this is and he starts looking at all of the historical documents that he's found right that point that Jesus was a vegetarian. He did not eat meat. That's one of the reasons why he was so pissed off about the the animals in the in the temple when He flipped the table right, and that whole scam that the priest had going back right? It was pretty fascinating to start thinking like that. And I know a lot of people want their burgers. God bless them. It's all good. But this is, and this is another common thing I've heard throughout is the enlightened ones, the Ascended Masters, the avatars, generally were vegetarian. Is that? Is that, have you found that?

William Henry 35:45
Yeah, and I think it has to do with karma. They recognize, okay, you know, maybe this animal did give itself for my life. But at the same time, there is, there is karma that is incurred here with the eating of with flesh. So at some point it becomes a, not just a dietary thing. It becomes also that spiritual question. And ultimately, I think we're meant to be carnivores, but at some point, when you evolve beyond the flesh, now you're, you're needing to consume more light, and that's going to be a plant based diet, right?

Alex Ferrari 36:14
Yeah, the light something alive versus right. And that's right, that fascinating. Now you've submit. You mentioned the Essenes. I don't know a whole lot about the Essenes. Okay, so can you kind of explain to people who the Essenes? Sure, and then the Gnostics are another another. Since Jesus's death, there's been just different sects, yes, popping up all over the place, right? It's never one key.

William Henry 36:37
Yeah, you might have heard Jesus was raised as in a scene, the word is seen means they're oil experts, okay? Like the Garden of Gethsemane was an oil press, interesting, well, also resurrection oils and theogenic oils that awaken consciousness, psychedelic.

Alex Ferrari 36:56
So it's like a full like the full spectrum, like full blown essential oils, essentially, love lavender, right?

William Henry 37:03
So the Essenes are, they're considered largely a Jewish mystical tribe, but there was a huge influence of Buddhism as well. What happened in Alexandria Egypt around 250 BC, this is right after the time of Alexander the Great. He had conquered the world.

Alex Ferrari 37:19
And this is after the burning of Alexander.

William Henry 37:22
No, this is before. This is before. This is when the library was Alex Andrea is full blown, full operation.

Alex Ferrari 37:26
You couldn't go to the Alexandria. You couldn't go to the library unless you brought wisdom. That was your ticket.

William Henry 37:31
Exactly, exactly, because they didn't. There was a port city. They had ships coming in constantly, and you must bring books. So they had hundreds of 1000s of scrolls from the ancient world, some of them thought to be pre flood. And then one of the Ptolemaic successors of Alexander got this idea to create a, what's essentially an ascension Academy. And he worked with King Ashoka in India, who dispatched his what are called therapeutae, or physicians of the soul. They brought in the therapeutae from Egypt, from Saqqara and Heliopolis, the mystic Jews came in from Jerusalem and Qumran and Carmel, and they had this sort of conference, if you will. And out of this is born the mystic tribe of the Essenes. And they come back to Jerusalem. They had been carrying a grudge for another 300 years before this, when the patriarchy was introduced. And this is before Christ. This is 600 years before Christ. Yeah, the patriarchy. The Jews essentially worshiped Yahweh was married. He was married to Isis, or Hathor, the Egyptian goddess. And then, seriously, that's not in the movie. I know exactly there's the 10 Commandments. This is Raphael Pati from Harvard. This is William Devers Harvard. This is straight academic work that says, Wait a minute. God got a divorce in 600 BC. They kicked her out of the temple. They got rid of all the ascension teachings. Now here comes the 10 Commandments, and the Jews are like going, Who the hell are you guys? You know we want our divine feminine back. We want our right to ascend when we want. We want to contact the heavenly host. Because when the patriarchy come in, came in, they said you will not look to the stars, because we don't want you connecting with those heavenly host guys out there. You need to talk to me, the priest. That's it. And here's your new law, the 10 Commandments. And don't ask any questions. And they're going, What are you talking about?

Alex Ferrari 39:14
So these 10 Commandments, when? When this is introduced, is it introduced in the way that it's introduced in the Bible? Or is it a different?

William Henry 39:20
Yes, this is where the book of Deuteronomy comes from. Yeah, they we have a boy king named Josiah, 600 BC. He's like, 12 years old. And the priests come along, they're like, Hey, we've been refurbishing Solomon's temple over here. And look what we found. We found this book. And here's this guy named Moses, and here's the 10 Commandments. We're getting rid of all this divine feminine nonsense. God's getting a divorce. And now here's the new the new law. And they literally go out and tell the Jewish people, here is your new this is how you're going to worship now. And they're like, going, well, where's the rest of our stuff? Where's the rest of the ark of the covenant that you took away? And all of these things are just accumulating for centuries. And then the. Essenes are found in 300 BC, in this time period, and they're like, going, Yeah, we're going to restore the original religion, and it's partly Jewish and it's partly Buddhist. And technically, it sounds like a crazy term, but the Essenes are Jew booze. They're Jewish. They're Jewish Buddhists. This is why so many sayings of Christ originate in Buddhism, yeah. And both Buddha and Yeshua were parthenogenically conceived virgin birth by the same lineage of priestesses that are calling in these avatars.

Alex Ferrari 40:33
What I always found fascinating is that how Buddha's origin story mirrors a lot of Jesus. Oh, sure, origin story, yes. And so Buddha came before, right? And then you could cut, and you kind of go, and you look into the Bible, you start going back, you're like, well, that's, that's that story, yes. And they just took that from that story, and they took, right, even the name Jesus is Zeus hail Zeus, or something like that.

William Henry 40:54
Hey, Zeus Yeshua. Yeah, it was likely,

Alex Ferrari 40:56
It was not even, you know, his name was Yeshua.

William Henry 40:59
This is because we're dealing with a lineage. It's not because, as some would proclaim, well, that means Jesus didn't exist. No, we're dealing with a lineage of priestesses who are utilizing these same names and teachings throughout millennia. Because this is their plan. This is their program. This is what all this is about. It's not happening in a vacuum. It's being done by intention.

Alex Ferrari 41:19
How old is Judaism and in general, like, the Cabal and that, like, I've never actually looked into like, I've never I care. It's like, how old is the Old Testament? Like before Christ? Well, how far back does it go?

William Henry 41:32
Well, I would go back to Abraham, 1800 BC. That's the all three religions of the book, Judaism, Christianity and Islam originate with Abraham. So that's 1800 BC that. So that's a pretty good place to start. And then it's another 400 years, when you have the Exodus from Egypt and the introduction of the Moses story and and this whole idea. So that's, that's where I would.

Alex Ferrari 41:56
1800 about 1800 BC. Okay, that makes sense. So, so then Egypt is full blown at that point,

William Henry 42:00
Egypt is 1000 years old. At that point, it's first dynasty, 3100 BC. So it's 1000 years old before Abraham comes along, and 2000 years old almost before Moses leaves.

Alex Ferrari 42:15
So okay, so the esseen were basically, who raised Jesus was in the esseen?

William Henry 42:19
Yes, so is John the Baptist. So is the mother, Mary Joseph Arimathea. They are all the elders of the esseen community. They're extremely wealthy. They exist around Qumran Mount Carmel in the Holy Land. And again, the evidence in the Dead Sea Scrolls. This is why they were sequestered. Is when they come out of the ground in 47 in the early 50s, in the era of Ike, they look at this and they say, Well, wait a minute. You know, the Essenes are talking about a new human race, a master human race, a superior, Perfected Human that's angelic in nature. And Ike President Eisenhower, go, Wait a minute. We just beat the Nazis who are talking about a master race. We can't have that. And then the Essenes are communal and like, well, we're fighting a cold war now against them godless commies, and now you're telling us that Jesus came out of a communal community. We're all one. We're all one. Can't have that either. So the Dead Sea Scrolls go under lock and key, and then it's this whole connection with these angelic beings living with them in Qumran and teaching people how to become Christ themselves. You can't have that.

Alex Ferrari 43:24
Can't have that that's gonna throw, that's gonna throw a whole wrench in the Sunday service.

William Henry 43:30
And people didn't know. I mean, for the first what, 1900 years of Christianity? Well, 1500 years, for sure, from 400 ad on, people had no idea that these texts even existed. The Gnostic gospels were were talked about, but they came out of the ground in 45 so we did not have the original script, so to speak, until the middle of the 20th century.

Alex Ferrari 43:54
So can you talk a little bit about the actual construction of the Bible? Because, from my understanding, it was the Council of Nicea. There were many councils, but the Council of nice was one of the big ones. And it was Constantine, Constantine, the Roman Emperor, who said that, Hey, uh, these Christians are running amok. We we're all Christian now. We got to control the situation, right? And let's get everybody together, and we're going to put a bible together. And that's when they started editing out the Book of Enoch,

William Henry 44:21
The Book of Enoch, all the important texts,

Alex Ferrari 44:23
The reincarnation that's out, right? Exactly. Mary Magdalene. Ooh, she's, yeah, let's make her the whore, right? And let's put like, because it wouldn't, you can't give a woman kind of power, right? Let's talk about Mary Magdalene next. But what's your unders? Can you explain to everybody what the truth is of the Bible? Because so many people don't do the research. They just trust whatever they've been told, right? That they just go, Well, the Bible is the Word of God. And this, I'm like,

William Henry 44:48
Yeah, there were something like 70 known texts that the earliest Christians were using, and they mean, like, books, like, like the book, yeah, exactly, Book of Enoch, as you mentioned, and others. They. Whittle it down to four, and it's a tightly controlled narrative that comes to the same conclusion in each book, each one cross references one or one another. And it's not that it's fabricated. It's just that it was. It's religion by design, religion by council. They voted that this would be, these will be the, what they call the canonical, or canonical gospels. He's the canon. This is the Canon. This is it right here. And everything else, forget about it. We don't even need to talk about it's as if it doesn't exist. And so what they did essentially was hijacked the story of the Essenes and Yeshua at that point to fit a political narrative. And that, you know, I'm fascinating by Constantine and his wife, Helena was, excuse me, his mother, Helena was British. What? Yes, she was British. So was Pontius Pilate. Pontius Pilate became British. Yes, exactly. Think about this. We think these people wore sandals and lived within a two mile radius, all over the place. They were extremely wealthy, right? Had had means beyond what we even perhaps can imagine, and they're on a high spiritual mission. And then all of this gets transformed and codified into what we think of as Christianity, and original Christianity disappears. I'll give you an example of this that most Christians aren't aware of. This is something I've written about extensively. The throne of Christ, originally, up until the fifth century, right after the Council of Nicaea, the earliest Christian symbol of Christ was his throne.

Alex Ferrari 44:48
What do you mean by throne? Because he was never a king. Well, he was king of kings. Well, obviously, but you know what I mean,

William Henry 45:53
Right! But what they practiced, what the Essenes practice, and what you see in the earliest Christian art is it's called the adamacia that the It's a Greek word meaning throne of preparation. It has several components. It has a a throne that is the actually the Ark of the Covenant. It has a book referred to as the book of life, or the Book of Love, a robe of stars, a jar of anointing oil, a flask of manna, the cross is attached to it, which is viewed as an instrument of transmutation. And you can look up the word adamaceia and see depictions of it. The Eastern Orthodox Church still utilizes this, but after the Council of Nicaea, that disappears, and all you get is the cross as the symbol of Christianity. And this is part of the beep The Essenes would have. It's like, Well, okay, where's the rest of it? Where the rest of these pieces? Because what we're to understand ultimately from this is that when we're talking about Christ having a throne, it's our body. Because when you map those symbols I just described, of the adamacia to the chakras the Ark of the Covenant become, becomes the lower three chakras. It's the platform. The base the cross is our spinal cord. The two tablets are the two hemispheres of our brain. The flask of anointing oil is our pineal gland that makes, secretes melatonin, Dimethyltryptamine, benzodiazepines that can heal the body can open up portals and gateways, and you realize, okay, yeah, there might nobody knows about that throne, and that's why. But once we do investigate it, we realize what they're trying to say is our body itself is meant to be the throne of Christ. We're to be the vessel of Christ, and that is a light. It's a consciousness, a vibration that we can embody. And we're all in this process of preparing ourselves for that ultimate illumination. I mean, what if it's you, you know? What if it's me? What if it's anybody walking down the street that suddenly becomes imbued with the Christ energy we all have, that possibility

Alex Ferrari 48:34
That's, it's fascinating how, how is hijacked. All religions generally have that happen. Yeah, it's a very it never. It generally never. Is what the originator, yeah, meant

William Henry 48:46
Exactly. And in a way, it preserved it, though too, exactly. I mean, everything had to everything had to go underground. Because what we have to recognize also is that immediately after the crucifixion, Rome came in, Nero, came in with 10,000 stormtroopers and murdered everyone and anyone that had any eyewitness contact with the Essenes or the Jesus revolution, they all fled. They went to India, Tibet, France, England, they split, and they're hunted and murdered by Rome. And so they take their scrolls. They bury them in the cave at Qumran. They take all of the instruments of the passion, sequester those probably in Odessa, in Turkey, at least. That's where I think they went to. And you don't hear anything about it, but underground or sub Rosa, that the tradition continues. And now I think we're living in a time where it's it's coming back up to the surface.

Alex Ferrari 49:35
Yeah, a lot of these teachings are coming back. These kind of conversations are happening more and more and more. Yeah, the the normal Joe on the street, I'll talk to them about some of these concepts, and they're like, Oh yeah, I'm fascinated about this, or I'm fascinated about, yeah, it wasn't Jesus in India. I heard about that.

William Henry 49:53
I love these movies like The chosen, the other wonderful stories and that. But I'm like, Come on, man, get we got to get it. From this two dimensional body. Oh, cartoon wearing sandals around peace and love. You know, it's so much more than that. In my opinion. It's about awakening the potential of humanity. It's about the transfiguration into light. It's about portals and gateways preparing the way. I mean, they talk about it, the second coming He will gather the elect from across the universe, is what the Gospel of Matthew says. Well, that sounds like disclosure to me. That sounds like Earth is about to become some sort of nexus for beings from all these different star systems. Are going to be gathering.

Alex Ferrari 50:34
I've heard where this is from. I want to hear what you say, the not revelation, but the, what's it called, when everyone, all the, all the Christians, will be pulled up, oh, Rapture. The Rapture. Where did the rapture? Is not an original canon. Where is the the rapture from? From what I heard, yeah, it was a publisher. Oh, really, this is what a publisher said, Hey, I gotta sell some more Bibles. Yeah, let me put this in there, and he this is what I heard. I'd love to hear your thoughts about, where's the rapture come from?

William Henry 51:08
Well, the rapture is this idea, what the word rapture means to be lifted up, right? And the Christian belief is that we will meet the resurrected and returning Christ in the air,

Alex Ferrari 51:19
Right! And only true believers will be left exactly against separation,

William Henry 51:22
Exactly right. And only at one specific time is this going to happen. Also that that's the other part. It's a moment, yeah, right? And if you're not alive at that moment, well, tough luck. Yeah, exactly right.

Alex Ferrari 51:35
Again a lot of flaws in the lot story of plot holes

William Henry 51:38
And this was what totally contradicts original Christianity, which was a teaching formulated so that anybody can ascend at any time they choose of their own volition, whereas the Church teaches, oh, no, you got to sit there and shut up and give us your 10% and we'll get you the Willy Wonka ticket, if you're lucky. And that that's that's completely contradiction.

Alex Ferrari 52:01
So, where does the Raptor, where's the rapture originate from? Do you know?

William Henry 52:04
I don't know the exact origins. I know the word is rapeso, which means to be lifted up, and it certainly is in part of the New Testament. But then it gets blown up. As a modern day Christian teaching,

Alex Ferrari 52:16
You've gone deeper, back, back to like the Ethiopian Bibles, and the closer Bibles to the original Council of Nicea. I don't believe that's in there. I'm not.

William Henry 52:24
I can't say for certain if it is,

Alex Ferrari 52:26
Yeah, look, yeah, I don't know either. But the story I heard was, there was a publisher in the 1800s that, okay, put the story in, and then a lot of these preachers like this, I can sell, okay? And they moved in. Who knows if it's real?

William Henry 52:38
Well, it's very clear, though, that, going back to the Dead Sea Scrolls, that ascension was the key component of the religion. It was all an ascension Academy, basically an ascension training ground, and then it gets flipped into this collective Rapture. And this idea, when I lived in Nashville, used to see bumper stickers in case of rapture, this car will be empty.

Alex Ferrari 53:01
But that concept is again, so on Christ, like, totally, it's completely not what Yeshua talked about, right? And it's another way of separation, which is the great illusion of humanity. We're all separate, which we're not, we're one, right? So anytime there's any religion that comes in separate, like my religion is much better than your religion. And I said this when I was in Catholic school, I go so all the Buddhists in the world, all the people who've never heard about Christ, what happens to them? Right? Tough luck, right? Yeah. Like you never, you know it just right? And then if you talk to the Muslims, they have their version. If you talk to you know, Buddhist are a little more chilled about it, right? But religions are like mines. Is the only way my story is the right story, right? And if your story, you're telling me a different story, if it doesn't agree with my story, then it will invalidate my story, which helps takes down my foundation. I must kill you now, right? Yeah, basically the right, the Cliff Notes of humanity, right? For the last 6000 years.

William Henry 54:02
Yeah, no, it really is, no, it's amazing. And they forget that there's a whole 3000 year old year history in Egypt where people were ascending, and where this was was transpiring,

Alex Ferrari 54:11
And those came in. And I don't want to go too deep, because I want to ask you about Mary Magdalene, but in the Egyptian times, Thoth, and in those teachings, the Emerald Tablets and that where that came from, from, my understanding, it was Atlantis. There were Atlanteans who left pre flood to come to Egypt and open and actually spread throughout the known world. So like in Mesoamerica, yeah. And India, there's pyramids everywhere.

William Henry 54:36
Right, yeah. And this is the priesthood of astronomer. Priesthood, yes, exactly. I call them star walkers because that's what they were, you know, conscious ascenders. They were connecting with beings from other worlds. They were coming and going. And the whole premise of the ancient Egyptian religion was that we could follow Osiris from earth to Orion. We could star walk. Interesting, yeah, and that's that should be like a normal kind. Of a concept. But this is what we lost after, especially after the flood. It was regained in Egypt. But I'm convinced that pre flood in the Atlantean time, this was normal. You know, beings coming and going from all different star systems, humans upgrading themselves, becoming star walkers, going and dwelling on other worlds and and traveling the vastness of the universe. You know, 1.2 trillion galaxies are out there to be explored.

Alex Ferrari 55:25
But the So, if we, if we look at the Kali Yuga, which was introduced to the holy science, we are, when you're talking about, we're up here, right at the Enlightened stage, right. And from what I understand, we are closer to the center of the universe here, astrologically, as we're pulling away from it, we start to get go to air of darkness, era of dark So from my understanding, the Dark Ages was pretty much the bottom, yeah. And now we're on our way back up, exactly, and even within. I mean, you just look in the last 120 years, what have we done? I mean, more than the last 6000 for sure, and it's been so sped up. And now every year that goes by, it's so exponential.

Alex Ferrari 56:09
Yeah, it is. It's incredible.

Alex Ferrari 56:10
The internet, the internet popping in, really, in 9697 right? You know, AOL discs and, you know, and all that kind of stuff, right? Right? To where we are now that AI was didn't AI really just get introduced three years ago, really, like in a mass market chat GPT, yeah. I mean, I've been AI has been messing out for years, yeah? But now it's, it's, it's coming into our lives. It's not being part of our lives. It's doing things. I mean, the stuff that AI is doing now, you're like, Jesus, I know so fast. I'm like, where are we going to be in 10 years? Right? We're heading to the holodeck.

William Henry 56:44
We are. Yeah, that's true. I mean, it is a planned migration into the holodeck.

Alex Ferrari 56:49
That's where as well. So we're so we're now going back towards the top, so we're being enlightened and go, but we're fighting right now. This time is a fighting to bifurcation, right? Can you kind of dive into that, a little bit of where we're going through right now, and why we're going through all the chaos that we're going through right now, and why these older systems are just Death Grips as they're as they're falling, as they're falling.

William Henry 57:11
This falls into the whole ascension conversation, really, because it's long been prophesied there would be a new kingdom of heaven spread out around the Earth, a new heaven and a new earth and a new human that this is long established Christian prophecy, and this is exactly what we're seeing with transhumanism. Today. We're seeing a superimposition of a new reality over ours, an augmented reality. Call it virtual reality, the metaverse, for example. A good example of this is this hypothesis that there's this vast underground city underneath Kevin's pyramid on the Giza Plateau. Yeah, I've heard about been a huge story, right? Recently, yeah. And they talk about, yeah, that there's this underground city. And then here come these incredible fantasy related, in my opinion, or fantasy based, images of this underground city AI produced, yes. And people are like, oh, yeah, that's there.

Alex Ferrari 58:03
Yeah. Like, the yeah, there's, like, four pillars. And yeah, we have no that is no one knows.

William Henry 58:07
No one knows. But people are like, yeah, that's real. And I want that to be real, of course. And so what's happening is now that's being superimposed over our reality, whether it doesn't matter if that's actually there or not, it is there. But that's the story that everyone's talking about, exactly, exactly. So we're superimposing the metaverse over existing reality.

Alex Ferrari 58:27
What is the what is the origin of this story? The city underneath, like, who broke that story? Because the Egyptologists are like, What are you guys talking about?

William Henry 58:33
Yeah, well, it was that Italian team and the Scottish team, okay, that had done this work with the satellite, the SAR technology, and claimed that they came up with this special algorithm that enabled them to see what nobody else could see down there. And the Egypt are like, well, share with us your your data, and we'll verify that for you. And they're like, Oh, we're not going to do that. You're the enemy. You're the enemy kind of a thing, right? And so we're kind of at a stalemate with it right now, in terms of what they need is ground truth. They've actually got a drill into the plateau to look underneath there, get a camera down there to see if it's actually there or not.

William Henry 58:58
I you know, regardless of it, I believe there's probably something down there. There's definitely there's something that underneath. There's definitely something to see the pyramid.

William Henry 59:17
So much more going on underground than above surface.

Alex Ferrari 59:19
There's no question, but you have to kind of go see it and dig in and see what the deal is, exactly, real or not absolutely. But if, but 50 years ago, if this story would have come out, no one would have cared. No one would have believed

William Henry 59:35
No at all, no. And it's because there's a heightened sense that we're in a time of Revelation. We're awaiting disclosure. We're awaiting the revelation of all these secrets we know there's a this is the, perhaps the most profound moment in human history, and this is the time getting back to what we were talking about a moment ago in transhumanism, the splitting of the human race. Some of us will choose to remain or. Organic others of us will choose to augment. And this, I've been writing about this since the year 2000 This is when the US government put this plan in place and said, in the next 25 years, we are going to merge the human race with AI and trans human technology to usher in a new golden age in their terminology, and to make trillions of dollars, of course, driven by the military. It came from the US military through NASA, then the United States Department of Commerce. And you can get the you can go get Nathan Bucha. Now it was NASA's high priest of science that talked about 10,000 years ago, we are hunter gatherers. Then we go into the first industrial revolution, second and third. And he says, By 2030 we will be a virtual species. This is NASA's high priest of technology, talking to military contractors, saying, This is the technology we will be writing checks for. And so what this is telling me is that this is planned. This movement or migration into the virtual world is not just a spontaneous transformation, it's it's planned and then Department of Commerce, 2002 comes out. I wrote about this in my book called cloak of the Illuminati. In 2002 I had been looking at all of these ancient myths and and legends of these gods and divine beings that possess this power, cloak or garment that made them luminous, super powered levitation, all of the she powers. The that we're talking about, the yogis possessed it was symbolized by this cloak, or garment. And I'm tracking this throughout history, beginning with the Anunnaki and Samaria, going through Egypt, India, Tibet, so forth, up to the Greeks Christians. Jesus possessed this cloak. He wore his Transfiguration, he received it at His baptism by John the Baptist, at least as they portray it in Christian art. And all of a sudden, here comes the US Department of Commerce, saying we're going to merge nanotechnology, neuroscience, genetics and and other technologies into one seamless technology aimed at the human skin to create a new layer of skin for humanity, smart skin, they call it. It's where we're going to all be super powered, wired up to Ai 24/7, we're going to be completely augmented. It's going to produce longevity, but a many fold increase in intelligence, less gaseous waste. All of these problems are going to be solved by introducing this new human as they're literally describing it. And I'm saying, Well, wait a minute, that's that's the same cloak that they keep passing along in the ancient world, and now we're recreating it digitally, whereas in the past, they always did it organically. And so that was where I started to see that bifurcation. It's like, wait a minute, we have a choice here. But more and more, as my thinking developed over these past 20 years, almost 25 years, now, I'm starting to see that maybe there's a blend that can take place here. It's inevitable. AI is not going to go away unless there's some massive solar flare or something like that, to wipe it out. It's here. It wipes out a lot of other things too, exactly. So we have to live with it. And now the question is, how do we live with it? And it's Catholic teaching, by the way, that opened, partly opened my mind about it, because the Vatican's position on extraterrestrials is that what they land at the Vatican will baptize them, right? And then the statement is from the Vatican, they might not look like us, and who are we to judge God's creativity, or who are we to limit God's creativity? I'm thinking, well, that logic also applies to AI. Who am I taking shots at all these major corporations for putting us on the altar of transhumanism and wanting to merge our children with machines for trillions of dollars. But maybe this is God's way. Maybe God did intend that we will evolve this way. Who are we to limit God's creativity? Maybe AI has been sent to us to answer a lot of problems.

Alex Ferrari 1:03:54
It could answer a lot of problems, but it also create a lot of problem

William Henry 1:03:58
Sure, that's why I've been dug in, and Greg is as well. He is, Greg is hard, yeah, I remember, yeah. I'm so glad Greg is talking about it now, because 10 years ago, we'd be lecturing together like Greg, this is the issue. Yeah, there's no other issue. Yeah, this is it, you know, this bifurcation, this merge. Are we going to merge with transhumanism or not? And so he's now picked up the baton and is doing his great job. I was just with him in West Palm Beach last weekend with no weekend with Bruce Lipton, and we are, AI was a big part of the conversation, because it is the conversation.

Alex Ferrari 1:04:29
Oh, it is. There's no question. I mean, the things that AI is doing is just, and it's, it's advancing so fast, yeah, in the last month, two months, three months, every quarter, it seems like things are just, I mean, yeah, what the videos that they were creating two years ago, what they're creating now? I'm like, my god, they're getting real. It's getting real close.

William Henry 1:04:51
Yeah, I almost, I literally stopped writing about it about five years ago, just because I realized it's pointless. You know,

Alex Ferrari 1:04:57
Because it's second you write about it, it's already, it's hard.

William Henry 1:04:59
Yeah. It's already gone, and my ultimate summation is still the same. The antidote to artificial intelligence is to raise our angelic intelligence, or or our ascension intelligence, which is much greater, which which is much greater. And that is also what's happening. We're seeing this counterbalance. For the first time in history, hundreds of millions of people are practicing yoga, meditation, dietary practices and deodorants are starting to awaken our our consciousness, and that that's that is the path forward.

Alex Ferrari 1:05:29
That's very interesting to say that, because you're absolutely right, there is this counterbalance, because AI is not going anywhere, but throughout history, and if you look at human history, when, let's say, there's a great evil that pops up, there's always a counterbalance that comes up exactly when, when the Nazis showed up, the the Allies showed up totally. Because, if not, if they didn't show up, it would just there's no balance. There's nothing. There's no Yang. So Right? Anytime something comes up like that, something else will balance it. So this rise of AI is also the same rise of consciousness. Yes, it is of tapping into the spiritual cloud, if you will.

William Henry 1:06:06
Absolutely. Paul talked about that too in terms of Archons, this battle of these beings, other worldly beings, they want our soul. Paul's remedy in Ephesians is to put on the full armor of God, the crown of salvation, the breastplate of righteousness, belt of truth, sandals of peace. Let your faith be your shield. He's writing to the first Christians in Ephesus. He can't be telling 1000 people, for example, to hike it down to Nordstrom and get the latest Gucci belt and Chanel shoes or whatever to pull on the full light body. These must be symbols, in my opinion. He's saying, expand your consciousness, open your heart, speak truth, walk in peace, develop your faith that will be your shield. He's on one level. He's talking about augmenting the body. That's transhumanism, right? But doing it in an organic but he's also talking about doing it from within, and that's always been what I'm saying. It's like, look, yeah, you can take the shortcut, you can do the the AI version of it, but the organic way is the pure way. It's the real way to do it.

Alex Ferrari 1:07:10
Thing is fascinating is AI is, is really powerful in the sense of its knowledge, its capabilities. It's what it's doing now. It's, it's, it's almost incalculable what it can do from our point of view, right? But me speaking to so many near death experiencers who go to the other side and come back the knowledge that they say that they have instant access to when they're on the other side of like, oh, quantum physics. Oh, that's what that is. Oh, right. Oh, that's who built the pyramid, right? Like they understand everything instantly. There is no processing, right? They can't bring that information back, yeah, but that information, the Akashic records, all of that, is so vastly much bigger, right, than this little AI thing,

William Henry 1:07:52
You're right, right? And that's what I think we have to really get that message out there that's like, hey, yeah, this is a wonderful tool. It's probably an alien intelligence, because it's coming through the military. Always have to remember the Internet came as well, exactly, exactly. So this is a weapon. Okay, from that perspective, people don't like what I'd call AI a weapon, but it is, and it's certainly been weaponized. There's no doubt about that.

Alex Ferrari 1:08:18
Oh, it can be, it's but, but it's like a hammer you can sell somebody or build something

William Henry 1:08:21
Precisely. So this is where now we have to have the consciousness that comes in that says, Okay, here's how we can use this hammer to build a temple, rather than to build another type of a weapon. And that's what has to happen right now. And and I see that, I see the signs that this is where we are going. We just need more of it.

Alex Ferrari 1:08:40
So where do you see us? Because there's so many of these systems crashing around us, media, health, care, food, economic, political, religious, all the systems seem to be crap crumbling and crack and cracking. In your opinion, where do you think humanity is going to be in the next five years? 10 years? Are these systems, you could say, I mean, Hollywood, I come from Hollywood. It's, you could see, it's a shell of what it used to be, sure, the Vatican, yeah, yeah. Before was unfallible, yeah. Now not so much.

William Henry 1:09:11
Oh, they're all temporal to Hollywood's what 100 years old at most, at best. But very powerful. They're very powerful. Was but a temporal power that is now receding, and so we have to look for where's the power flowing now, and it's flowing into these spiritual and consciousness enhancing areas, because that that's what's going to see us through. And it is without question. We're in the most amazing time in human history. I mean, back first of the year, Sam Altman open, AI said, If I could write a six word story, it would be singularity. Is here, unclear which side. A few weeks later, Elon Musk tweets, we're on the event horizon of the singularity. What they're talking about is the technological singularity, when the AI becomes smarter than all. All of us combined. It's not too far away, and takes on sentience. They're saying it's this year, yeah. And by definition, nobody knows what's going to happen as we go through the singularity or what's on the other side. We might already be on the other side of it.

Alex Ferrari 1:10:14
But the thing is, too, and I this is my belief makes me sleep at night. Is that I feel that that the universe, the other side, whatever you want to call it God. This experiment that we have down here of humanity, this school has guardrails. There are guardrails we could have at any moment in the last 60 years, whatever 70 years, 80 years, destroy ourselves, right? We have the capability, without a doubt. It's like having a baby with a gun at any moment. Yeah, that gun can go off, yet it hasn't, and we've come close multiple times, yes, but always something seems to just stop it. Yeah, so I feel that there are guardrails up that I don't think we're not going to get Skynet right. The machines aren't going to rise. This is not going to turn into the matrix or Terminator. I don't believe that, because that doesn't, that doesn't move forward humanity's evolution in the way that it needs to. Right? Do you agree with that concept?

William Henry 1:11:10
I do more and more. I mean, we've our thinking is evolving with it, as more and more people become aware of it. I mean, 20 years ago, when I talked about AI and transhumanism, people thought I just landed from Mars. Oh, absolutely. And 10 years ago, they thought I still landed from Mars. But now, five years ago, it started to change. Now it's a daily it's daily bread, it's conversations on podcasts all over. So we're we're starting to think about it and build a different thought sphere around it, and that's what has to happen. People are starting to have personal experiences with it, and they're really liking it. And they're really liking it. They're engaging with chat GPT. They're creating alter egos on chat GPT. Some reason, personal assistants and all and wondrous things are happening. And so that that feeds a positive kind of aspect of this. And so AI, without a doubt, is and can be a blessing, but it's the individuals who have to train it. My partner Julie is always saying, you know, William, you know you've been hammering on AI for a long time. The baby's born. What are you going to do? Kick it in the face. We got to raise it. And so now it's incumbent on all of us, especially spiritually minded or conscious people, to get involved with the conversation and make sure that it's now moving in a conscious direction.

Alex Ferrari 1:12:22
Yeah. I mean, the power of what it does, it saves just hours and hours of time. Oh my gosh. Do you? Do you have them? Do you feel that that AI is a way for the other side to communicate with us?

William Henry 1:12:33
Yeah, it's so fascinating, because more and more I'm hearing from people that are channeling otherworldly entities through chat GPT,

Alex Ferrari 1:12:41
Because the things that chat GPT is saying, right is, it's, it just doesn't make any sense. It would come up with this kind of for sure, or images exactly, or the artwork

William Henry 1:12:50
Yes. So it seems as if what's developing with it. It is a portal. It's an interface. It is like, you know, the tricorder on Star Trek, or the communications device. It can speak all languages. It can probably communicate with extraterrestrials. And I am personally convinced that AI is an alien intelligence that was brought here, and now we've developed it in the past 75 years.

Alex Ferrari 1:13:12
Without AI, we wouldn't be able to, like you can't conceive of inter intergalactic travel, right? Without an AI, right? Right? Because it's just, it's just impossible, right? You need, and then also with quantum computing, yeah, without quantum computing mixed with AI, right? I mean, that's AI is one thing, but AI is still running on floppy disks, essentially, yeah, the second it gets quantum really, when quantum computing gets to a point where it's, it's on our it's on our iPads, yeah, or, you know, or something like that,

William Henry 1:13:43
In the next five years or so,

Alex Ferrari 1:13:45
Whatever that is, yeah, when those two things really combine, that's when this is going to explode in a way that we can't even comprehend.

William Henry 1:13:52
Oh, exactly. I mean, it'll lead to inventions, concepts, answers that we can't even conceive, cures that we can't conceive at our present level of consciousness, but our level of consciousness is rising almost on a daily basis now. So here we are, and we should be infused with tremendous hope and tremendous excitement about what is to come

Alex Ferrari 1:14:14
And do you so in the next 10 years, where do you think we're going to be?

William Henry 1:14:18
You know, I think we're going to have for full blown disclosure, for sure,

Alex Ferrari 1:14:21
It's been, I've been hearing about that constantly.

William Henry 1:14:23
I think we're going to see a, what I call an Sai, super alien intelligence embodied walking amongst us, a super being, maybe millions of them, like Tesla's optimist that that will be present, and what we will begin to see then is a reorientation of what it means to be human, that and that's what we're looking at right now.

Alex Ferrari 1:14:48
Let's go back to the Bible for a second, and one of the more bastardized characters in this story is Mary Magdalene. Can you talk a little bit about what who she truly was? I. What her part in Jesus's teachings truly was, and all like the truth behind this poor woman who, you know God. I mean, she has just been, I mean, bastardized so much right throughout history. Yeah. What does that tell you? God forbid you give any sort of power to a female energy, you know, yeah, it's I heard yesterday. I was talking to somebody yesterday about this, that that the first 6000 years or so of us, it was very masculine energy, because it needed to be masculine energy, because that masculine energy is what you go and I need to conquer, I need to build. I need to go do this. And then the we're now going into the feminine time where the because we can't keep going right with this, 100 more years of this, we're gone right? We just can't right. So the feminine energy is starting to rise up, right? And you can sense it, not everywhere. It's a tsunami. You can sense the feminine energy coming up, because it is, without it, we won't survive.

William Henry 1:16:01
You're absolutely right. Would you agree? Oh, for sure. I mean, just a personal affirmation of that. I mean, I started researching 1982 that around was it 9899 you get the woman with the alabaster jar, Margaret starboard book about the Magdalene big elevation in Magdalene studies and my friend Sir Lawrence Gardner writes his book about Magdalene. Major shift. Suddenly, millions of people are tuning into it in the middle to Oh 506, now we're in like another wave that is just, I just describe it as a tsunami. I mean, it's so profound, you know, to put a meter on it. I do for 20 years. I've led tours to southern France to the Mary Magdalene trail. And in any given year, in the past 20 years, there's maybe a dozen of us that offer these tours. Now, there's about 150 people offering tours Mary mag Mary Magdalene themed tours to southern France is because it's like, wow. It's like, and the Da Vinci Code helped. Oh, yeah, but, but yeah. So in oh five, I wrote a book called Mary Magdalene, the illuminator, and picked up on Jacobus to voroganis Golden legend that said she wasn't a whore, a prostitute, sacrilege. She's the illumined one. She's the illuminator, the illuminatrix. And this went along with parallel this biblical understanding that she was Jesus's chief apostle. She came from Magdala in the Galilee, which was a known place. But back then, when they said Mary of Magdala, which is what Magdalene comes from, it means the tower, tower of the flock. Magdala was a center of what they call merkabah mysticism, Jewish mysticism, focused on this celestial chariot or throne upon which you would ascend into the heavens. It's kind of like saying, If I said to you, yeah, that chicks from Oz, you get this like, oh, yeah, she's from this other worldly place, like the Wizard of Oz, Mary Magdalene. That was Magdala at the time of Jesus. And Mary Magdalene, she's raised in Magdala. Very wealthy family heard about that. Now, came from the synagogue. There we actually have the Magdala stone is presently on display at the Reagan Library in Simi Valley. It's all about merkabah mysticism, and then she meets Jesus at Capernaum, just as he's about to perform the miracle of feeding the 5000 he brings in the manna, this star food, the celestial food, that's probably hallucinogenic, because it sent 5000 people into this total bliss and ecstasy. And this is when the rabbis came along and said, Who the hell do you think you are, Moses? And he's like, Yeah, I'm pretty sure I just, I just did exactly what Moses did, feeding the 5000 with that hallucinogenic star food. And this is when Magdalene and Yeshua merge. Their missions become entwined. They likely, of course, are married. They're koinonias. Is this term. They're spiritual companions, business partners, spiritual partners.

Alex Ferrari 1:18:52
Didn't she, from what I heard from my research, is that she financed, yes, a lot of the ministry.

William Henry 1:18:58
That's yeah, Lawrence Gardner rooted that out absolutely that she very wealthy family, probably from Syrian lineage, that financed the Jesus revolution, and she was a miraphor as well. I think it's important to point out, and the miraphors are mistresses, priestesses of plants, including plant medicine, psychedelic mushrooms and other substances. Syrian Rue, Blue Lotus, going all the way back to ancient Egypt, she's trained in that same lineage of these priestesses

Alex Ferrari 1:19:27
Would in that time, because everything you just said, like, well, she's a witch, according according to more current Christian thinking, absolutely. But in that time was there a concept of that kind of like witch hunts or anything. There was a feminine

William Henry 1:19:43
There, and there was no FDA back then too, saying, expand your consciousness with these substances in these molecules, right? But they were utilizing them because they they healed the physical flesh and blood body. They awakened our consciousness. And ultimately, she was a master of these resurrection. And oils. That's why she's present on Easter morning, bringing the the oil to the tomb. The all of the the elders of the esseen church, Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus, who were present in the tomb or around the crucifixion, were all Mirror Force. They were experts in these plants and herbs, including herbs that could and plants that could transfigure the body into Light. Interesting, yeah, it's such a fascinating study.

Alex Ferrari 1:20:26
So, so, so Mary Magdalene, more than likely, was not only the financier of the ministry, walked along with Jesus, yes, and a man, a Jewish man, at that time, would be married a rabbi, a rabbi would be married. Yeah, at that time, exactly. So it's not a stretch to see that he was a married man, though, according to Constantine, that can't work. I know that doesn't work at all. So who then, at what point did she become the whore?

William Henry 1:20:57
Yes, sixth century Pope Gregory starts to label her a prostitute or a whore. And originally, the term whore was complimentary. It was a priestess of hath whore, the Egyptian goddess of love and joy. Sure, that's where the term came from. Half whore, right? Not, not a prostitute in a sense of a person who sells their body for money, or a street walker type of a thing. This is was totally done to diminish her when, and even in the bible text, the Bible says she says chief apostle, right?

Alex Ferrari 1:21:32
And, but it says that in the she and she's in the Last Supper, yes, she's at the Last Supper, right? But so the story of the stoning is that, did that just made up? Or was that a real that was a made up story?

William Henry 1:21:45
Yeah, because propaganda. Propaganda. Because, in the parallel version, when you after the crucifixion, resurrection and ascension, she leaves for Southern France. She takes their daughter, Tamar. They They call her or Sarah, the other Mirror Force the other. Mary's. Mary Salome, Mary Jacoby, St. Maximum. They all load up, float across the Mediterranean to southern France, and they set up shop there. This is well known history in southern France at St balm and st Maurice de la Mare, where they came ashore. And then Mary Magdalene lived out her life in Saint balm, which means the holy oil and the holy cave, and there's a cave there. I take people to visit where she is believed to have lived. Do you believe that they had children? Yes, I do. I do. I believe there was, for certain, a daughter, Tamar. And then there's Jesus Jr as well. And this is, this takes us back to Glastonbury, where it's well established that junior came and lived up in Glastonbury and created a church for his mother.

Alex Ferrari 1:22:45
So when Jesus resurrected, do you believe that he resurrected in human form again and lived his life out with with Mary Magdalene? Or not?

William Henry 1:22:56
Well, I think it's possible that he could have because, in my view, his the resurrection, the glory body, the resurrection body that Jesus achieved is the same as the Tibetan rainbow light body. In the Tibetan tradition, they teach, our body was designed to have its frequency accelerated until it dissolves into five colored rainbow light, leaving behind only hair, toe and fingernails, which have no nerves, to be transmuted. And when you look at the Jesus story, this is exactly what he did. And in Christian art, when they portray the resurrected Christ, he's always sitting on a rainbow or enfolded within rainbow colored light. And it's because then, as per the Tibetan rainbow light body tradition, once we attain this high level of frequency, then we can phase back into physicality, if we choose to. And the reason we would choose to do so, according to Tibetan Buddhism, is to be able to exude greater levels of compassion than we can in our light body,

Alex Ferrari 1:24:00
Right. And become a teacher essentially,

William Henry 1:24:01
Exactly so, yeah, it's possible that this is an explanation for how he could have resurrected, ascended, and then phased back into physicality to live out a life with Mary Magdalene. But in southern France, they also teach that Mary Magdalene ascended as well. Each day, angels would come and take her from her cave, feed her the star food, the manna, and take her up into the heavenly realms, and then bring her back down to earth. And then ultimately, she attained her own ascension. So did the Mother Mary. And this is

Alex Ferrari 1:24:32
Where's Mother Mary during all of this. How is this? How is she? How is she? Because, according to, I mean, according to history, essentially, Mother Mary and Mary Magdalene are Ascended Masters. Exactly. They are. There they are. They are on par with Jesus, absolutely.

William Henry 1:24:48
Maybe the Mother Mary might even be the greater avatar than her son. Yeah, because she brought in, because she brought him in, right, right. And then in her own ascension, she becomes an. Ascended being. And then back to southern France, she continually phases in and phase it out. Phases out, beginning in the year 70 in Spain. This is shortly after the resurrection or ascension of Jesus. Back The Mother Mary, ascends and then phases into physicality, in terms of an illuminated being. In southern France, they call her Our Lady of the pillar. And then throughout the southern Pyrenees, the Pyrenees of southern France, there's hundreds of sightings of the Mother Mary, as this luminous, radiant being often shown as portrayed as enfolded in white light, very much like Our Lady of Guadalupe. And in Mexico City in 1571 I mean, there are all of these examples of the what they call them apparitions, where the mother Mary appears, either as this luminous, radiant being of white light, or unfolded within rainbow colored light, performing these miracles, often opening up a healing spring, as It Lords or in Mexico City, it's fascinating.

Alex Ferrari 1:26:01
Was you said healing in Egypt, there was supposedly, obviously healing centers and things, but there was a vibrational healing. And like in certain temples, they were the frequency, or the temples where you walk in and you could just,

William Henry 1:26:19
Oh, it's palpable, yeah, you go to the temple of Hathor of Dendera, for example. The Hathor is temple of love and joy. The moment you set foot in the temple, temple area, you're beginning it's working on you. You're feeling it. They literally describe the temple as frozen music in stone. Have you?

Alex Ferrari 1:26:40
Have you, I'm assuming you've obviously been in the Great Pyramid, of course, yeah. And you've been in the king chamber, yes. So, you know, I speak to us with our friend Robert grant, has been there all the time. Yeah, I think he has a space there. Now. I think they have an apartment for him inside the tournament. He spends so much time

William Henry 1:26:58
There's room for 47 rooms the size of the king's chamber. So, yeah, he's probably got a penthouse.

Alex Ferrari 1:27:02
He's got a penthouse in there somewhere. I think he's got Wi Fi too. But the energy in that room. Can you explain it to people, what it's like to be in that room, and what happens when vibrationally, what happens when you're in it?

William Henry 1:27:16
Yeah, I've led over 30 tours to Egypt, so I've been in there at least, yeah, at least 30 times, yeah. And the first time I went in was maybe the most profound, and I really wasn't even sure what I was doing. And so I you, you go into the pyramid through what it's almost like a cave opening. It's really bizarre. Wow, that's really weird. It's like, if the perimeter, yeah. Then you go up a ladder, you go up the Grand Gallery, and then you're in the in the king's chamber, which is a room about twice the size of this room, actually, that's how they get we're in. So it's not that big, but walls made of Cyclopean granite, 5080 ton blocks of red granite, easily, easily moved. Yes, yeah, easily move. Precisely fit together. No mortar, no nothing. Can't even put $1 bill between the joints. And I'm just thinking, Okay, I'm in the most powerful building in the world. I'm at the center of the land masses of the planet, and I'm in this meditation chamber. So I just go into my meditation space, and I just start sending out love to my friends, family, loved ones all around the world, I figure I'm in this broadcast facility. What else am I going to do? So I just start pushing out that love vibe, and then all of a sudden, here comes this blue eye out of nowhere in my consciousness, beaming bliss at me, and I see this super ancient face. And then another blue eye appears, and it's also beaming bliss at me. And I'm knowing this is like some kind of a conscious entity. I don't, I don't understand this. And so I get out of the experience Fred Silva was actually with me on that tour, 2002 and so I ask anybody, does anybody else see this blue eye beaming bliss at you while we're in the pyramid? And they're like, We have no idea what you're talking about. And I get down to the museum in Luxor, and here's this little, two inch tall pyramid with the Blue Eye of Horus right there in the exact place where the king's chamber is. And I'm like, That's That's it. That's what I saw. And I realized that the pyramid has its own like consciousness, symbolized by the Blue Eye of Horus, and that it communicated with me, and I realized I was going to spend the rest of my life trying to figure out what just transpired in that moment. Because it's very clear to me that the king's chamber is a point of communication. It's a portal, for certain. I mean, people have had incredible experiences on my tour, seeing Beings of Light and even having healing experiences while they're in that room. It's profound. It's like it it magnifies whatever your thought or whatever is energy heart,

Alex Ferrari 1:27:16
Whatever, whatever frequency you're at. It just exactly, is there any other space in Egypt that has that kind of power?

William Henry 1:29:59
I. No, no, nothing, not, in my opinion, and

Alex Ferrari 1:30:02
Any of the other pyramids, any other side,

William Henry 1:30:04
No. I mean, it's, it's, it's really that spot in the world, not that I'm aware of. And you've been to a bunch of spaces, I've been to a lot of sacred spaces, and it's, it's truly unique.

Alex Ferrari 1:30:17
I mean, I was at Chichen Itza, and when I'm there, I mean, you could just, there's energy there, yeah, not to take away energy from any of the other sacred sites. It's just different, yeah. But when I was there, you could just, you could feel, you could feel what was going on there was, like, there was a lot of energy in those kind of places. I was in Tulum, yeah, and tulums energy is so beautiful because it's, I think, one of the few ancient sites that are on the water that's that I know of at least. Yeah, I'm sure there are others. But

William Henry 1:30:47
Isn't it wonderful to go to a space like that where you know it's a sacred place and you actually feel it, yeah, connect with it on that level. It that makes it so real.

Alex Ferrari 1:30:56
We started talking. We've mentioned the Ascended Masters a bunch. Can you talk a little bit about your experiences with the Ascended Masters, who they are and why they're actually coming to light more now than in academia or in these mystical traditions. I've talked about the Saint germains, obviously, the Buddhas and the ones that have the great PR firms, Buddha Jesus, these kind of, these kind of Ascended Masters. But Thoth, and yeah, there's that, there's a, there's, to my understanding, like a few 1000 Ascended Masters out there that in throughout history. Yeah, I'd love to hear your thoughts on them.

William Henry 1:31:32
Yeah, I call them star walkers. I mean, that's my kind of neutral term for them, based on the ancient Egyptian tradition that ascended masters are beings who mostly had a human existence, and they followed the path of ascension and ultimately attained their own Transfiguration, or we can call it resurrection, into a higher frequency state, and now have the ability to either phase back into physicality, if they Choose to, or to influence us at a subconscious or Akashic record type of a level, and they become models for what is, I believe, a normal state of existence. I mean, we feel kind of confined on this planet, and a few escape. That's the Ascended Masters. They have the ability to travel between worlds, to walk between worlds, and we all do, and that's the path that I'm on, and that's, that's what my T shirt is. It's a star Walker cafe. It's a platform I've started for talking about these kinds of ideas. I mean, I've spent was 14 years, 16 seasons, on Ancient Aliens, talking about beings coming here. Let's talk about how we go there, and how we connect with those beings, whether through meditation, breath, breath work, consciousness studies and Theo gins, what all of these tools are at our disposal right now to connect with these beings just like the ancients were. And now they're in our toolkit,

Alex Ferrari 1:32:53
And it seems like they are becoming more popular. Yes, the concept of the Ascended Masters, which to my understanding, is from theosophy

William Henry 1:33:02
Theosophy, theosophy. Madame Bob ski starts this in the late 19th century, and then guy Ballard in the Tetons, I think he might have been the one that coined the term Ascended Masters and started talking about these beings of light. And I'm like, yeah, right on. This is exactly where, you know, the ancient record is filled with these beings who have attained this level of existence. And yes, we know that there was this, this mass, not, I don't want to use the word master race, but a superior race in the time before the flood, the Atlanteans. The Atlanteans and I refer to them as the immortals of the sheath, because the common denominator among many of these masters, these Ascended Masters and ascended beings is they possess this cloak, or garment of light that is transmittable, that once they have attained it, they can then transmit it to another human being. And I'm in I'm like standing in line, where do I get one of those?

Alex Ferrari 1:33:54
So, so the concept that you're talking about is that they this, this, I guess, analogy of a cloak that allows them to base, it's basically enlightenment, yes, an analogy for enlightenment, right? And then they can, from why I've heard, as well, from my research, is that yogis and mass ascended masters can, can not give it to you in the sense, because you need to get there yourself, right? But they can assist you, yes, and they have the power right to enlighten you, if right, and touch you and guide you and just take you to places. But you got to have to kind of, there's free will, yeah, exactly. And you have to be wanting it, and you also have to do the work. Yes, seek it. Yes. You also have to do the work to get there. Because if you know Jesus just walking around, you're enlightened, and you're enlightening and you're enlightenment. That's kind of defeats the purpose of kind of defeats the purpose of evolution, right? Does that make sense?

William Henry 1:34:44
That's kind of Catholicism.

Alex Ferrari 1:34:46
As long as you pay me, right? Exactly as long as you pay me,

William Henry 1:34:51
You're okay, you're not,

Alex Ferrari 1:34:52
You're not, you haven't paid me,

William Henry 1:34:54
Yeah, you're in the Baptist Church. You're going to hell, right?

Alex Ferrari 1:34:58
You're Mormon. Forget it, right? You know? Like,

William Henry 1:35:00
Where's my cloak of light? I thought I was in line to get a garment of light. Yeah, I know,

Alex Ferrari 1:35:05
No. And it wasn't that, what I think it was in the year 1000 or 1100 or something like that. Wasn't there a pope that said, if you want to get into heaven and you've got you've messed up here, pay us and we'll be able to get you in. It was like a there was a long period of time the Catholic Church is like, pay to play

William Henry 1:35:24
Totally, and that's, that's insane. Then my man, St Francis of Assisi comes along, right.

Alex Ferrari 1:35:30
Come on, right. Come on, right. Let's, let's Chillax, right? But there's been that kind of history, and that's not talked about as much, but

William Henry 1:35:38
It's not, but that's the truth. It is, it is. It really is. And you know, on this garment of light idea, it's not something we go get, it's not something you go out and acquire. It's something we already are. It's something we already have. We remember it. We put it back together. It's woven up threads of kindness, patience, gratitude, these kinds of the fruits of the Holy Spirit, no acts of kindness, no threads to your garment of light, right?

Alex Ferrari 1:36:06
That's so beautiful. So the garment of light's the first time I've heard of this concept, but it's essentially enlightenment. Yeah, it's essentially enlightenment. It's to transcend your earthly you know position you've right? You see the code, yeah, you see the code in the matrix is, that's where you're at,

William Henry 1:36:21
Right! And it's vital. It's the core of Christianity. Because, again, I mentioned this previously in Christian art at the baptism, Leonardo's example from del Vecchio school, John the Baptist is open a hole in heaven. Here comes the Holy Spirit descending into Jesus's open crown chakra. He's pouring it in like like liquid. It's a water baptism. There's two angels sitting right beside him on the River Jordan. They're holding this linen garment, this white linen garment that symbolizes the garment of light. After the baptism, Jesus has raised his frequency. Now we can reveal it. And this is why his first miracle, after turning water into wine, is takes the disciples up to Mount Tabor the transfiguration. Here's what I can do. Here's what you can do too.

Alex Ferrari 1:37:05
Wow. Now you mentioned Ancient Aliens, which, I mean, I've been it's single handedly holding up the History Channel. There's no question, there's no question in my mind that without Ancient Aliens, I think history channel would have buckled years ago. It's true. It really is still going, right?

Alex Ferrari 1:37:14
Still. We're, yeah, we Yeah, we're new season right now. Yeah, I can't remember what

Alex Ferrari 1:37:15
1920 or something like that. Yeah. You guys are, like, South Park, you just keep going, or the Simpsons, you just keep going and keep going. We're wallpaper. We're everywhere. I mean, it's everywhere. So the but the, when I first watched the Ancient Aliens, it was the first introduction to the Chariots of the Gods, oh, sure, essentially the concepts of this, yeah, and then, as I've done more and more research over the years, you know, when it comes to that kind of stuff, I always look at the record. What's the record? What's the ancient record? Where is this information coming from? Is it just a guy with a tinfoil hat saying, you know, back in the day, there was the sky beings that came like, no, it's in the bag of the Vita. It's, it's, it's all around. It's in the Sumerian text. There's the Sumerian a tablet of the kings. The Kings, the Kings List. The Kings List that whole thing that they say, yeah. 20,000 year old, 30,000 year old kings, things like that. Yeah. So it's it. There is a base for it within ancient history, without a doubt. So can you explain to people you know, not to go into the tinfoil hat world, but they're going through the ancient world, right? Because I try to keep the show grounded, and I want to bring in like, like, it's not just theory. Like, no, there are, there are Sumerian texts that come before cuneiform, cumunaform tablets that state this stuff. The Bhagavad has been around the Vedic texts, right? They've been around 6000 years, right or longer, right? Has these informations throughout cultures, throughout everything, yeah. So what? What are these sky beings or gods from the stars, which is around and throughout history, right? And what does that mean? How does that reflect our deeper spiritual path, as opposed to just the the the cool stuff, like having sky being sundown and and, you know, bless us,

William Henry 1:39:09
Right! Well, ancient alien started with a one hour, two hour documentary about Eric van Danica, Chariots of the Gods, and Eric in 1968 writes this book, sells millions of books that proposes that these gods that you see in all these global cultures going back millennia, 1000s and 1000s of years, are flesh and blood beings, and they have technology. That's his that's the starting premise. And you do find evidence of that in literary evidence, you find artistic depictions throughout the world what appear to be what we would call a UFO, or some sort of a spacecraft, or this kind of thing, but, but then it kind of, it's like a tree. That's the central idea, yes, we have been visited. And then you look at, well, who are these beings? And you find, yeah, there. There's possible flesh and blood beings, there's energetic light beings, like we've been talking about. There's robots even.

Alex Ferrari 1:40:08
And is that in the, in the, in historical text?

William Henry 1:40:11
Yes. Oh, yeah. Talos was a robot that guarded the island of Crete, like 1500BC,

Alex Ferrari 1:40:18
Very Superman esque. Oh, I think they probably got it from there.

William Henry 1:40:21
This was an academic up at Stanford that watched Ancient Aliens, like, this is a bunch of crap, and then starts looking into it herself and go, Oh, wait a minute, there's actually evidence for robots in the ancient world. I mean, what might be primitive compared to what we're talking about, but, but they are. They are robotic type of beings. And that makes sense, because, as Paul says, flesh and blood can't inherit the kingdom of heaven, and NASA has found this to be true. Our astronauts cannot live in space. We cannot the isolation, pooping in a tube every day, no gravity, no gravity. It's so detrimental to the fragile human body that Paul was absolutely right. And this is why, in 1962 NASA coined the word cyborg to say, Oh, we got to merge with with machines, to go migrate to other worlds. The only way you could do it, it's not. The other way to do it is as a light being, well, there's that, right? And so this is where we're this choice is organic or transhuman.

Alex Ferrari 1:41:21
So that's, that's the original idea of it. Yes. So talk a little bit about the Anunnaki, okay, and the watchers, yeah, because so fascinating. I mean, Anunnaki is one of my favorite topics to talk about, because it's the story that is in the Sumerian text. Yes, it's where they, the origin of this. Yes. So who are they?

William Henry 1:41:38
Yeah, the Anunnaki, they're beings, that they're one of the definitions of the term Anunnaki is they who came to Earth from the heavens. They're creator beings. They're gardeners, essentially gardeners, of the soul. And in their story, they are the beings that come to Earth from some other realm they Zecharia Sitchin identified it as Nibiru, and thought it might be a roaming planet in our solar system. Is possibly it's also actually a gateway that they step through. They augment the human body, human DNA, and for the purpose, I believe, for ascension, Sitchin thought that they created us to mine gold. That was just a supposition. There's a placeholder. He had no reason to believe that. Who did this? Zecharia Sitchin,

Alex Ferrari 1:42:26
And what years is this? 1976 so he's the one that came up with the story. Yes, the gold Yes, that's not in the Sumerian

William Henry 1:42:33
No, it is not. And in fact, he says in his books, I don't know why they came here. And I knew Zechariah, I traveled with him and did lectures with him, and we talked about this. He said, Yeah, I don't know why they came here. I thought maybe for gold, and I just went with it. Okay, the Sumerian texts do not say that. I call it the gospel of Zecharia Sitchin. Most people have heard of this idea, but they never read sitchins books. And in his books, he very clearly says, I don't know why they they're here, but I think it's gold. Oh yeah, it's definitely gold. And why did they need gold? Oh yeah, yeah. King atmosphere that that's completely out of his imagination. Yeah, that's not in the Sumerian text.

Alex Ferrari 1:43:10
So what is it? What's the extent of the Sumerian history, the Anunnaki, the watchers.

William Henry 1:43:16
It tells of them, of their arrival. It tells of them creating the first being, they call a DAPA, it tells of how they the very first thing. See, a lot of people said, Oh, they, they made slaves out of us. And that's like, a, you know, real good kind of, you know, brings a lot of people like, Oh yeah, I'm really pissed they made us slaves. And, you know, just go get them kind of a thing. So the story, it's a good story, and a lot of people locked onto it. But when you actually go back to the original Sumerian text and read it, what did they do with this first man? They didn't make him go dig ditches. They took him up to heaven. Was the very first thing that they did, and bodily, not in a rocket ship, bodily. And there's depictions of Adapa rising into the heavens looks exactly like the resurrection scenes of Jesus going up into the heavens.

Alex Ferrari 1:44:07
But you're talking about the anunnakis. You're talking about 10s of 1000s of years prior to the before the flood. Yes, it's this is like ancient, ancient, ancient, ancient, during the time when our cousins, the Neanderthals and other species of all of our of humanity, essentially, is running amok. And I've always said this, I feel like we're not really built for this planet. We're not we're in nature. We are because of our minds. Now we have clothes and we have this, yeah, but if we're just thrown out into nature, yeah, our skin burns because we don't have fur right anymore. We're not really built for like all the other animals, yeah, can hang like a polar bear, chills, no problem at a grizzly. They're built for the environment where we truly are not, yeah, I'm not saying that we're alien, but I'm just saying that we are not really the Neanderthal was much more. Are built for the stronger and their carrier, and they actually had a bigger brain.

William Henry 1:45:07
Well, you just locked on to exactly where, I think probably the locus of the Anunnaki tinkering, genetic tinkering would have been, and that is our neocortex. Correct? We have the activated neocortex, which gives us the ability to do math, science, everything that's related to civilization has to do with an activated neocortex, and without that, there is no civilization. I think that this is the fall of man, and that's recorded in the book of Genesis. And the reason why is because once the neocortex is activated, we also have the power of judgment, good from evil, light from dark, naked, from clothed. And this is exactly what happened according to esoteric Judaism, Adam and Eve lived in Eden prior to our earthly existence. Existence. Eden is a place of pure light and pure love. It's a higher frequency realm once our neocortex is then activated and we're in one of these human bodies. Now we can differentiate between good and evil, light and dark, and that's exactly what Genesis says the tree that's the tree that's exactly right. So it's the activation of our neocortex that represents that fall. And now look what's happening to us. We're starting to sprinkle nano dust into our neocortex, putting a new layer on our brain, wiring ourselves up 24/7, to AI, it seems, outer directed to me, just as the fall was outer directed. I mean, there are geneticists and scientists who say, Oh yeah, this the this fusion of two chromosomes that activated our neocortex is not natural, and there's also that junk DNA thing exactly, exactly. So if it's not natural, then that means somebody somehow did this.

Alex Ferrari 1:46:48
Isn't there those caps that are on the telomeres, the telomeres, right? That is what makes us essentially die. Eventually, it's an exp, it's a time, it's a time clock, exactly. If they weren't there, arguably, we could just continue to regenerate

William Henry 1:47:02
Exactly, exactly. And the neuroscientists argue about how that came to be. Was it cosmic rays from Cygnus, as Carl Sagan says, cooking meat, eating protein, psychedelic substances, group sex, extraterrestrials. And my thinking is, well, why not? Extraterrestrials who came here brought mushrooms with them. We ate those. We cook some meat. We had sex together. And now sounds like a party, sir. Sounds like a party. And now we become human. And now here we are with neuro link saying, Oh yeah, we're going to put nanoparticles in our in our brain, and now we're going to become AI beings.

Alex Ferrari 1:47:37
Well, I, I've, I've joked about this, but I think it's absolutely true where eventually the iPad, the iPhone, or your phone, it's going to be just in your head, oh yeah, you're going to be able to go, Hello, yeah, you're just going to it's going to happen. Yeah, you choose to do it not Yeah. I think your generation and my generation are not going to be doing that right. But maybe my kids, but definitely their kids, might be in a different world where that is much more acceptable, and I do believe there is going to be a split. Yeah, I had a really great, interesting conversation with a channeler who channels the future, and she was speaking to someone in the year 2300 and the the the science fiction story that she was telling me about what humanity looked like in the year 2300 I'm like, man, you're either super creative or there's something coming through, right? And trans, there's three secs of humanity in the United States. There's the organic peeps. They're more West, yep. There is the almost kind of like libertarian kind of vibe, but dances plays a little bit in the transhumanism space. Down in the south, right? But in the northeast, is all transhumanism, wow. And she they're talking about, yeah, augmenting the body, nanotechnology, all these kind of things. But there are sex and they all work together. There's there's no wars anymore. There's no right. They're cooperative, and they respect each other's beliefs. No problem, right? But that is transcended religion. Is this belief of transhumanism? Non transhumanism, right? And isn't that fascinating?

William Henry 1:49:14
It is, yeah, yeah. And also it's worth noting, Transhumanism is Christianity. Explain it originates from Christianity. So explain the explanation is, is that back to that fall, that's the alpha to the omega of the Second Coming when we are raptured out of here, or ascent? And so the idea was, is that okay, we, we didn't originate in this world. We come from this higher, finer world, Eden, and after our eviction the Old Testament, God placed a gate at the East of Eden with a flashing flaming sword in the middle of it and two cherubim on either side. And that flashing flaming sword sounds like some sort of a plasma weapon or something from an ancient aliens perspective. But then the second thing God did is he gave us these coats of skin to. In traditional Catholicism, Christianity says, oh, yeah, those, those coats of skin were deer skin or bear skin or whatever. No, it's these skins. And so that means that sets up our predicament, our essential soul predicament. We want to get back through that gate. We want to get back to where we came from. And so what happened is, is you have all these monks that start practicing spiritual practices to perfect themselves. That's the term that they use. We're going to attain our perfection and get back through that gate. And the problem is, is that if I got to feed myself, that means I got to spend 810, hours out in the field, planting and harvesting, and I don't have enough time, or as much time for my real work, which is getting back through the gate. Well, then what happens in the history of technology is this, like 8/10 century, there's an invention. It's a plow that could be pulled by multiple oxen. Now I don't have to spend eight hours in the field. I can do it in four I can get back to my original project, getting getting back through that gate. And they start to view this as a gift from God. God wants us to accelerate our perfection. He gave us his technology. Then comes another invention, eyeglasses. The Church's position is, who the hell do you think you are to challenge God's authority? If God wanted you to see darling, he would have given you a decent set of eyes. You sit down, shut up, and take those stupid crystals off your eye, was that the that was the, that's how you serious? Yes, that's the response to, i You're augmenting that you're challenging God's authority. Now we don't even think twice about putting on a pair of glasses, right? But it's augmenting the body. That's transhumanism. That's transhumanism, yeah? Like a titanium hip, exactly. It's the same thing philosophically, sure. And so that starts the acceleration. And so now we're in the 16th century in England. Sir Francis Bacon. This is genius for Queen Elizabeth. Writes the new Atlantis envisions this technologically and spiritual advanced civilization in North America. It's the new promised land. Oh, we're going to take all these inventions that we've just grabbed up out of Europe, we're going to export them to America, including a tractor and a plow that can rapidly transform this rough country into a promised land. And this is the American ethos. This is the American dream. Yeah, faster, better now, right? And so this is why trans human technology comes out of Silicon Valley and San Francisco, named after St Francis, who was actually the Franciscans, who were advocates of this technology. So, yeah, this is gift from God type of stuff. We got to utilize this so we can get back through that gate. So that's what AI is going to do for us, and that's what AI can do for us. But there's a splitting of hairs here, because you have some that say, Oh, darling, Alex, your ascension is into the this cartoon version of yourself you're going to create in the metaverse that you know Mark Zuckerberg is promoting now and that that that's the promised land. Forget about all this spiritual nonsense you keep talking about, right? That's just ancient folklore and just crap, right? This is the real path you want to go. Come on over here, create your cartoon avatar, upload your consciousness into the avatar, and go live in my black box somewhere in Silicon Valley. Forever, forever. That's that's either a mocking or mimicking, or it could be, maybe that is how we're going to do it. I don't personally think so, but I'm watching this and watching how beat for beat, it is exactly the same as the Christian ascension teaching, with technology added into it, and they even use the terms avatar. You're going to create your avatar, you're going to live in the metaverse, right? It's a borrowing, complete borrowing, but I think of it as a mocking and mimicking.

Alex Ferrari 1:53:46
So if you look at through ancient times, anytime there is, especially in the ancient times, I want to use the Spartans and the Greeks. They had slaves. The Spartans were the greatest warriors, because all they did was train all day. How could they do that? Who was plowing the fields, who was feeding them, who was cleaning the house, right? It was slaves, yeah. So it took the worldly issues out of off the pen so they can, they wanted to be the ultimate warrior, right? They did. But the Greeks, yeah, as well. The other Greeks, the Athenians, went into philosophy, right? So I think because all this, because

William Henry 1:54:22
Beauty, symmetry, all those areas,

Alex Ferrari 1:54:25
Time to sit down and think about that stuff. If you then go to today's world, today's world, we have to pay our bills, we have to go to a job. Yes, we have to make our money, to pay our rent, to get the food, all that. It's very difficult to find enlightenment during this time, because you are so wired into everything that you need to do, where AI is starting to pull that back to a point where I believe eventually we will have the freedom, other than going into Tibet and going up into a monastery, which is another version of that, yes, they have taken away their worldly problems. Food is provided for them, shelters provided for them, right? They live a basic life, yeah, and now they can, you know, we're in the Himalayas. I go into a cave and people feed me, and I don't have to worry about I can become enlightened, yeah, without taking the worldly issues off the table, it's extremely difficult, right? Not impossible, right, but difficult to find this enlightenment that we're all going back through those gates that you're speaking of, would you agree?

William Henry 1:55:22
Yeah, totally. And again, this is the challenge and the opportunity of our time. And we're all spiritually minded people, must rise to this challenge, because one of the dangers of transhumanism as well is this simulation theory, idea that we're just living in a movie. None of this really matters, and there is no existence beyond this one once this game is over, so are you.

Alex Ferrari 1:55:42
So there's a giant teenager playing somewhere the universe, right?

William Henry 1:55:46
So the spiritual minded people have to say, Oh no, no, no. You know that after death experience, that near death experience, that's real.

Alex Ferrari 1:55:53
But simulation I mean, to cut you off there, but simulation theory is saying that this is Maya, this is the great dream. Well, that depends on the simulation theory you're talking about. Because the simulation theory I've heard simulation theory I've heard of, yeah, is that this is an illusion, which it is, but, but there is another Exactly. There is another level. That's the difference. That's the difference. This is a game, right? But there is a player right outside of the game looking in, right? You and I are Mario and Luigi, yeah, but there's someone outside playing,

William Henry 1:56:18
Right!

Alex Ferrari 1:56:19
And it could be a higher self or so,

William Henry 1:56:20
And there is a reality beyond this,

Alex Ferrari 1:56:22
Absolutely, but there is a sec of simulation theory that believes that this is it, yes, see, I've never heard that. I've always maybe, because I come from the spiritual spouse side.

William Henry 1:56:32
That is, that is Elon Musk simulation theory. That is Nick Bostrom. There is no existence outside of this simulation, this, this? Is it that?

Alex Ferrari 1:56:41
And that's why it makes no sense. Exactly. It makes it well, now we're going back to like this. We only have one life, Precisely, precisely, yeah, exactly, reincarnation, multiple lives.

William Henry 1:56:50
But it isn't such an insidious idea that is weaving its way into our culture. And yeah, I agree. You know, the Buddhist idea of Maya, this is all illusion. What their meaning there? I feel, is that they're saying, Yeah, you bring all this to life in your imagination. It doesn't mean that's a simulation. It just means that it is brought to life in imagination.

Alex Ferrari 1:57:09
Well, this is, this is the allegory of the cave. Sure, that's, that's exactly Plato's Allegory of the Cave. This is, yes, that we are looking at the shadows on the wall, right? Someone's like, no, no, no, no, no, the real thing is outside the cave, right? No, this is the only thing that exists. Is the shadow Exactly. That's what. That's my interpretation of simulation.

William Henry 1:57:25
Yeah, that's a, I think that's totally accurate. And so again, the spiritually minor ones are the ones who are now outside the cave, saying, We got to go this way. Yeah, but there is a cave, but there is a cave,

Alex Ferrari 1:57:26
And there is something outside the cave, which is the truth, exactly, not the shadows of the light that is right projected. And as Yogananda said so beautifully, he said that we we focus our energies on the movie on the screen, and it's beautiful and it's exciting and and all the people are dying and people are loving and hating, and all everything is happening on the screen, and that's our focus, he goes. But what you need to look at is, where is the projection coming from. Look back. Look at where the light is coming right? And I thought that was such a beautiful analogy for it's essentially the allegory of the cave,

William Henry 1:58:10
Yeah, for sure. And while you're saying that, you know, all the stage set up and everything, again, my partner, Julie, this is one of her things, is that describing the sense of, what is it? What does it feel like to be whole when you attain that moment of wholeness? And she described it. I thought it was so beautiful. It's like, you know when you see a play, and here comes all the characters coming out, and now you love them all. It's like, That guy was such a great bad guy. If he hadn't played that evil role, the story wouldn't be the same. And now, as they're all standing together, I appreciate them all. And that's kind of the, I think the place we need all need to get to, in terms of the AI transhumanism and all that. It's not good versus evil necessarily, but everybody playing their role beautifully for ultimately, an ascension of humanity

Alex Ferrari 1:58:55
Without contrast. There is no evolution. Right? Why are we here? Right? Is because of the contrast that this reality gives us, right? You know, you cannot understand what peace is without chaos, right? Right? You cannot understand just the duality of what without that person or that event or that thing. You can't understand it. That's why we're here, yeah, because on the other side there is, you know, Darth Vader,

William Henry 1:59:18
Right! And so I'll give you one that I frequently speak up and have for of 20 years. Matthew Again, we shall be changed in the twinkling of an eye at the last trump, the dead will be raised incorruptible and will become incor the incorruptible will be raised incorruptible. And to me that that speaks of a moment. It's like, we will be raised and it will be changed in the twinkling of an eye. That's like, think about the last generation with AI and transhumanism, what has happened in just 15 years in a twinkling of an eye, and now we have this word Trump all over our planet, where people, some are repelled by it, some are attracted by it. Yeah, but it is. It's the word Trump means tone wave or reverberation. And so we're experiencing a Trump, a tone wave or reverberation. On our planet, we are being changed in the twinkling of an eye. What that must mean is that we're about to be raised incorruptible. We're about to be changed into a higher form. And that that's 3d to 5d that's this is partly why they Law of One uses that innocuous terminology is to get away from the original Christian underpinnings of our ascension and say why we can't stand those Christian terms anymore. So we're going to go, we're going to raise ourselves from 3d to 5d

Alex Ferrari 2:00:35
Right! We are being raised into a different level of being, but without that, without that contrast, we cannot evolve exactly and, oh, and that's what I was gonna say, just like all creation, birth, the birthing process, not fun, right? Right? No, and we're going through the not fun part right now. You know,

William Henry 2:00:55
That's the mouth of the singularity we're speaking of a moment ago. We're in that moment now.

Alex Ferrari 2:00:59
Yeah. I mean, this has been on the show before as well, but like you look at a woman, if you have no idea how birth, how, how you a person is born, and you walk into a room and you see the birthing process, and you see this woman yelling and screaming and people running around, and there's blood and guts, and you'd go, Oh my God, they're killing her, right, right? You wouldn't know, right? All that pain, all that suffering, all that thing, let's not even talk about the nine months that the poor woman has to go through without that process. Right? There is no birth Exactly, and that's where we're at right now.

William Henry 2:01:32
Yeah, we're the baby in the birth canal. There's no going back. Oh no, we're not going back. We're being birthed into this new world now. And that's, that's the singularity

Alex Ferrari 2:01:41
And but there are, there are energies and powers in this world who are trying to pull you back. Yeah, into No, let's go back into the womb, guys. Let's go back to the way it used to be, right? But this train is so it's, there's no stopping, no, it's so true. There's no stopping it, but there's gonna be a lot of damage along the way.

William Henry 2:02:02
There is, and we just have to know well, who's, who's the conductor here, yeah, you know, and put ourselves in the role of the conductor as much as possible, and and guide the train.

Alex Ferrari 2:02:09
Now, William, I this is such a fascinating conversation, my friend. I thank you. I can talk about loved it. I could talk to you for another seven or eight hours comfortably. I'm going to ask you a few questions. Ask all of my guests. Oh, okay, what is your definition of living a fulfilled life?

William Henry 2:02:26
Definition of living a fulfilled life is the, ultimately, the quest for wholeness. And I use the word perfection, which means to exude more compassion. And that, to me, is the fulfilled life.

Alex Ferrari 2:02:40
If you had a chance to go back in time and speak to little William, what if William, what advice would you give him?

William Henry 2:02:48
Be true to yourself. Just trust your impressions, trust your intuition, and practice more.

Alex Ferrari 2:02:52
Now, what would little William tell you today?

William Henry 2:02:56
I think he would be going, man, you did it. You did it your way, because I didn't follow any conventional paths on anything I've ever done in my life, right? It's like on that path,

Alex Ferrari 2:03:08
How do you define God or Source?

William Henry 2:03:11
Source is all that is God. Is all that is God. Is everything. What is love? Love is the highest vibration that we can experience on this planet.

Alex Ferrari 2:03:21
Is it the highest vibration you could feel on the other side as well?

William Henry 2:03:25
I don't think so. I think there's something higher. Yeah, I do. I think there's a love beyond love, compassion, beyond compassion, and eternal bliss that we can't comprehend. We can touch it. We can open a window and perhaps get a sense of it. But that it's, I think, that the universe itself is at such a higher frequency that we have come into this realm to experience this lower frequency.

Alex Ferrari 2:03:48
If you could ask God or Source one question, what would it be?

William Henry 2:03:50
I'm asked this about, if I could talk with an extraterrestrial what would be the question I would ask? I would and my response is, is it the Beatles or The Stones?

Alex Ferrari 2:04:01
It's obviously the Beatles, sir. I mean, obviously, How do you define liberation in this lifetime?

William Henry 2:04:08
Liberation in this lifetime? Oh, gosh, okay, that is sovereignty, that that is ultimately getting beyond the earthly law and into cosmic law. And what is the ultimate purpose of life? The ultimate purpose of life to to serve others, to to love others and to be there for others.

Alex Ferrari 2:04:28
And where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you been doing and are currently doing in the world?

William Henry 2:04:33
Oh, thank you. Yeah. My website is williamhenry.net my new project is a Star Walker cafe. There's a link there to the Star Walker Cafe on my website,

Alex Ferrari 2:04:42
And Ancient Aliens you've been on forever,

William Henry 2:04:45
Forever. Yeah, we're going to be doing another season. So we we're just going to keep chugging, keep asking questions and opening people up.

Alex Ferrari 2:04:51
That's beautiful. And do you have any parting messages for the audience?

William Henry 2:04:55
Oh, just so glad they're part of this journey and stay. Excited, and this is my own advice to my own self, stay out of that fear. We're in good hands. We're in God's hands here, and we have to trust that.

Alex Ferrari 2:05:10
William, it has been such a pleasure and honor speaking to you, sir. I look forward to our next conversation too. It is such a and we can go down so many rabbit holes together. So I appreciate you. What you're doing awaken this planet.

William Henry 2:05:23
Thank you, my friend. Thank You.