SURVIVOR of ELITE HUMAN TRAFFICKING Shares Her INSPIRING STORY! Channeling SAVED HER LIFE! with Kaia Ra

Kaia Ra 0:00
To be raped is to be dominated over it is not sexual abuse. It is right there is nothing consensual about rape whatsoever, you know, speak on behalf of the souls that they would murder in front of us and yet because they love that they love there they're just so sick. It's it's inconceivable how sick these people are. I believe that I'm alive by the grace of God. And there was a certain point in my early adulthood where I was still being watched and stopped. But you know these when you're born into these programs, you're just inventory.

Alex Ferrari 0:44
I like to welcome to the show Kaia Ra. How you doing Kaia?

Kaia Ra 0:47
Hi, Alex, I'm so happy to be here. Thanks for inviting me.

Alex Ferrari 0:50
Thank you so much for coming on the show. I'm really looking forward to our conversation. I love the work that you're doing in the world. We're going to talk about your book, The Sophia Code, which there's a story and a half on how this thing was written. And there but before we get going, you do channeling you've channeled you channeled the book, you channeled Ascended Masters. I say this, like such off the cuff, because we talk about it so often on the show. A lot of people were like what and like, it's something that we talk about a lot. But my first question to you is, what was your life like before channeling this insanity that is channeling? This whole world kind of came into into your life because it's and I say insanity in the most loving way possible. Because channeling, the other side is, for a lot of people looking at it is this is insane. And all of that energy that comes along, in channeling the other side and channeling this kind of knowledge with other people seems a little odd. So I'm sure it's throwing your life upside down left and right, by doing this and coming out and all this kind of stuff. So what was your life like before this? Or was there a moment before channeling?

Kaia Ra 2:01
No, there was no moment before that.

Alex Ferrari 2:04
So tell me how it started for you like when you were born? What was your process coming up?

Kaia Ra 2:08
Well, in the preface of the Sophia Code I share like a brushstroke of of my early life, and I am a survivor of elite human trafficking and I was born into well, was a military program for psychically gifted children that was using a civilian front for children like myself that was born into these programs. So I was born psychically open and my connection with the Ascended Masters and the angelic orders, I believe is what kept me alive.

Alex Ferrari 2:46
Really, during that process. I've spoken to others about that program. I haven't

Kaia Ra 2:52
There are many there are countless, there are countless. Yes.

Alex Ferrari 2:56
So let me ask you then. And please say, I'd rather not talk about it. I'm just going to ask questions. So please, I want you to feel comfortable about it. But you've you've spoken about it in your book. But with these programs, these programs, you said you were born into it. What do you mean by that?

Kaia Ra 3:12
I mean, exactly what I shared. There are programs that are specifically used to breed specific jet genetics, and specifically for certain inherited gifts, like talents and psychic development can be passed down generationally

Alex Ferrari 3:32
Also, that you were part of that program.

Kaia Ra 3:35
So my true mother was extremely psychically gifted, and she was used as a slave for this breeding program.

Alex Ferrari 3:47
My god, I'm so sorry.

Kaia Ra 3:49
This is in the US. This is, you know, this is something that happens in the US every day, but it's just starting to come into the public's awareness of how many covert black operations happen every day in this country, with children and satanic ritual and the use of children for their gifts and for their blood.

Alex Ferrari 4:12
Wow. So how did you, how did you escape this scenario?

Kaia Ra 4:19
Well, you know, these programs aren't interested in adults, they're interested in children. They're interested in young adults, that's who they want to rape, that their religion is, you know, stealing the consciousness and the bodies and the lifeforce and the gifts of children. So I believe that I'm alive by the grace of God. And there was a certain point in my early adulthood where I was still being watched and stalked, but you know this when you're born into these programs, you're just inventory. So inventory always costs money to store it costs money to transport it costs money to maintain and So if you're no longer being used as a child or young adult in a program, that's money that they consider, it's been wasted. So if you're not dead by that point, they'll just you know, many times you'll just end up zombified and walking away from these programs, not even remembering that you survive them. Now, there's a lot of survivors now that are coming online that realize that they survived something similar whether it was through the Masonic Order, or, you know, certain intelligence agency programs like the ones I survived, it's like, we're gonna find out that there's a lot more survivors over the next decade than we actually realize they're walking around. And they like, they just don't know most of them don't know that they've survived.

Alex Ferrari 5:45
It seems like a lot of things are starting to come out.

Kaia Ra 5:48
Oh, yes.

Alex Ferrari 5:49
Over this last 20 year, over these last 25 years, I'd say it's been slowly lots of areas, every single major institution around the world, from government, to medical to school to Hollywood, to all of them there, the cracks, religion, all of the the cracks are, are starting to come out and things that things that were talked about, like, you know, I was in Hollywood for a long time. And I heard about a lot of the me to stuff. When I was coming up. I've heard the rumblings of it, of what you know, Weinstein was doing on these other guys were doing a lot of them. And I was just like, oh, it's like, is that real? Like, I can't believe that can't be real. I didn't know a lot. I was just a young kid just coming up. Yeah, but a lot of these things that were like conspiracy theories before, are now no, this is real. child trafficking is us. It's a horrible, serious thing that is being dealt with. And in the US, and in a lot of these things that were considered fringe before, are now really like, no, no, here's the proof. Here's what's happening. This is what's going on. And I think you're right, it's going to keep coming out more and more,

Kaia Ra 7:07
Like elite human trafficking people think of human trafficking is like, you know, a massage parlor in Thailand that some gross guy visits, you know, on his vacation, and it's happening right here. And there's a massive hierarchy as far as like, how slaves are taken in how they're developed, how they're invested into what tiered a level you're at, in the slave system. You know, and a lot of these elites don't want to just rape any child, they want to rate their own bloodlines. Because they're, you know, just like, just like, they wouldn't want to eat at McDonald's, they want to eat it, you know, a really nice, yeah, it's like they want to, they want to rape their own. So they'll have a lot of their own children and put into secret homes that then end up getting trained in these programs for really high level. Missions, jobs for the children that are forced to go out to service if, if they're lucky survive, because a lot of them end up on a dinner plate. So, you know, my psychic gifts are like, it wasn't the only thing that kept me alive, it was God it was all of these, this legion of light that surrounded me. And, but it also was my ability to see beyond the veils and to channel for myself for my own survival. And I was used as a channel. And a lot of these rituals, I would be forced to speak on behalf of the souls that they would murder in front of us and because they love that they love there, they're just so sick. It's it's inconceivable how sick these people are, and the kind of entertainment that they enjoy.

Alex Ferrari 8:49
So when you when you finally were out of this, this world, and you know you were dealing with the trauma, as I'm sure you're still dealing with it,

Kaia Ra 8:59
Oh my god, so lifetime of healing.

Alex Ferrari 9:01
Yeah, absolutely. When you decided to start breaking your gifts into the world as light and trying to help people with your gifts. What what time of your life was that? Like how old were you when you started to, you made the conscious decision like I'm free now. I have these gifts. I want to help the world.

Kaia Ra 9:23
You know, it was it happened in stages. I knew that people handlers were keeping their eyes on me in my early 20s. I knew it because they would break into my house or my my apartment buildings or stalk me at the university I went to or, but I also knew that I was free enough to start getting an education start working to start making a living and I used everything in me to put my life back together to get on a path of how to take care of myself how to be an adult. And so a lot I'm Nigerian. Yeah, I was going to Emerson College in Boston. And I was living in downtown Boston. And there was this amazing yoga studio, Back Bay yoga at the time. And they were doing something no one. I mean, this is like over 20 years ago, they were talking about chakras, and Kalima, meditation. And, yeah, they're teaching like seven different types of yoga. And people were coming in droves, like, 20 years ago, you didn't go to yoga and 45 to 50 people were in the room every night, but they were, because there was incredible teachers there. That they were just, they were just so generous, so empowered, and so open about yoga, being a life saving practice. And at the time, you know, it was extremely wounded, I drank every day, chain smokes, well, you know, just to numb the pain, I partied a lot, and something told me Get your butt into that yoga studio. Because I also had no control over my gifts and the things that I could see where it was, it was because I was in so much pain, it was more focused on the darkness, like I could see demons on people, I could see darker entities that were, you know, just preying on people, and it just was making my life feel really heavy, that everywhere I went, I was seeing spirits and, and energies that were, you know, harming people, but I didn't, I wasn't healed enough to know how to help them. And so I started going to this yoga studio every night after work, and they would have back to back classes. And so I would go and spend four hours in yoga. And I did this for two years straight. And I had a full blown kundalini awakening in the process. And I actually started to get I've gotten an increase in my salary because of the projects I was working on, at the company I was at. And I started traveling and learning from other teachers how to hone my gifts and skills, because they genuinely wanted to help others with them. I just didn't know how to get it into a place where I could be functioning with it. I was just really terrified of what I could see. And and so it was through that that asana and meditation practice that started to move some of the trauma out of my body enough that I could really come back into alignment with my higher self. And then at the age of 27, had just full blown kundalini awakening, and I legally changed my name to Kira, because that was what my spiritual guides asked me to do. And I believe at that point, the part of my soul that I had survived what I had survived, started to leave and a part of my soul that is kya started to almost like walk into this body. It was as though I was so damaged from what had happened to me that that part of my soul just needed to start to take an accent as my more of my higher self or whatever. This other part of my soul is that's named Kaya came into my body start started the process of downloading into my body. There's a you know, it wasn't probably until about 10 years later that I felt like I was fully this, I guess, incarnation of myself.

Alex Ferrari 13:28
When you were when you were younger, and these gifts, I mean, it's like I've talked to so many channels that don't have anybody to guide them at all like yeah, voices start coming in, and they just like, Am I losing my mind? Am I going crazy? I don't think that that was your case. I think you either had someone around you good or bad in your life that was telling you what was going on with you. Is that a fair statement? Did you understand at least what was happening to you?

Kaia Ra 13:56
I mean, we in those programs. Yeah, we were being you know, so brutally trained and to access other dimensional realities and and stretch our capacity for quantum embodiment.

Alex Ferrari 14:15
I mean, this sounds like a Stephen King movie.

Kaia Ra 14:18
I mean, I'm writing a novel right now about what I survived and I'm actually going to publish it as science fiction because it's so over the top what I survived that I think people will be able to accept it more through the through the lens of fiction because it's just that extreme. I just wrote I just chose that that extreme of omission But to answer your question, I mean, I have memories of angels and green taro like I designed this pendant for green taro I'm wearing right now. Talking to me at the age of three, you know as I'm standing outside my body, you know after some near death X It's like I have full memories of these beings teaching me how to navigate the amount of terror, trauma, grief, sadness, having no control over my body, how to manage that, and how to stay alive. And so I know that I trained in many other lifetimes as a channel and as an Oracle. And I know that a lot of those lifetimes were in preparation for this one, and to bring the Sophia Code into this world. And everything that comes with the Sophia Code

Alex Ferrari 15:38
And we definitely gonna get we're gonna dive into the Sophia Code in a little bit. So when I'd love to hear your thoughts on this, my understanding of the other side, is that when we are souls that are about to reincarnate, or incarnate into a life, there is a soul blueprint, a soul plan of what that soul is opposed to, you know, what the challenge is, they want on that in that lifetime, what you know, hey, I want to be rich, I want to be poor, I want to be you know, this, or I want to be strong, or to be six foot tall, I want to be in this kind of the world, because these are gonna, I'm gonna go into this religion, because it's going to teach me these lessons, and all that kind of stuff. Is that do you have the same understanding? Or do you agree with that?

Kaia Ra 16:18
Yeah, absolutely. We call it the mission. What's your mission?

Alex Ferrari 16:21
Like, right. Yeah, I think I'm doing a little bit of it right now, during the work that I'm doing. It took me a while to get here. But I'm here now and you're doing yours? So my question to you and I asked this question for helping for people who are going have gone through trauma or are going through trauma in their life, a lot of people don't understand why like, Why me? Why did this happen to me? Why am I going through this? Why did I get born into this family? Why did I? Why am I why is this person abusing me? Or taking advantage of me? Or why is it that? Can you explain to people why you think you went through this process? Because what you went through is pretty extreme. And maybe with that explanation can help others listening, why they're going through what they're going through and give them a little bit of understanding and peace.

Kaia Ra 17:10
Yeah, you did that. So gracefully. Thank you, Alex. That's really perfect. So I'm a big proponent of Christ consciousness or otherwise known as Buddha consciousness, I believe the soul is invincible, all powerful divine. And I believe the soul makes some very powerful decisions before incarnates into human form. And so I know that I watched the entire movie of this life before I came here. And I know that I agreed to it. And I said, Yes. And I know that as I watched that movie, as a soul, I also wept. Yeah, it's like I think we think of had the heavenly realities or the higher realms as a place where we don't feel but that's not true. And the soul was designed to feel we have a feeling intelligence. And part of one of the reasons why we love the masters, the saints, like Yogananda, behind you is because there is so much feeling and compassion, in, in their service in and in what they have survived and their own journey of, of, you know, helping you awaken others. And so, I know that I chose this, I know, I absolutely know, without a doubt that I did not have to come in this lifetime, I know that I chose it. I know that I chose the circumstances for a very big mission to be a part of this global movement that's happening right now to expose elite human trafficking, but also to be a part of the movement of humanity, reclaiming and activating its sovereign divinity. Beyond all of this criminal activity, it's like I'm here for all of that. I'm here for the for the full spectrum of awakening on the planet. I'm here to help people look at the darkness as I'm here to mirror back to them that they are the light. So I parently my soul wanted, you know, a very, very challenging mission. But I also know that when the soul chooses maths, like a game theory of challenges, you're exponentially increasing the level of reward, like the volatility can actually come with a very high yield reward. And my reward is how many souls can I awaken while I'm still alive.

Alex Ferrari 19:34
Right. And I think that's, that's so important, what you said, because so many people that that are going through trauma in their life, don't really understand the purpose of it. And I think that and I've spoken to many, in my opinion, walking saints that are here right now living avatars who have been on There's been a handful on the show, but also people who have been connected to living avatars, where people like Jesus or Buddha, or Yogananda, or Baba Ji, these, these avatars, these saints, ascended masters or masters are examples of what all of us can achieve. So, in our own spiritual, and our own spiritual journey, that's why they came, they came to show, you know, Jesus said, Whatever I can do, you can do and more like it's all about the Kingdom of God, is it within you? I mean, these were very simple ideas that he was talking 2000 plus years ago, where people are like, what? People are still like, what? Exactly, but And if I may be so bold to say, I think your story is an example of survival, and also an example of what can be so like, we'll have she's gone through this and is where she is now. This is an example of what can be done. It's the 10 it's the it's the four minute mile. You're the four minute mile. Jesus is a four minute mile, because it because nobody could break the four minute mile until one guy broke the four minute mile. They said it was impossible. And the second he broke it 30 Other people broke. Yes, everyone Oh, is that it's possible to be done? Oh, yeah, he then. So you're, you're a four minute mile from your life story and what you're doing your work, and all of us are acting as examples. For others, that things are possible to be done. But yours is a very difficult path. So I appreciate and honor what you are doing and have done in your life, my dear,

Kaia Ra 21:44
Thank you. I feel like it's important to share with your audience with these wonderful souls that trust you and your work, that if the if there is are there, if there are souls that are watching, that are suffering, in their journey through recovering from trauma, I'd like to share that one of the biggest pieces for me was learning how to forgive myself. Not how to forgive all of these men and women who raped me and murdered children in front of me, I had to learn how to forgive myself. Because when you make a choice through the perspective of your higher self and your oversoul, you know, in the higher realms, and then you come down here to live out that choice on Earth. Those are two very different realities. There's the idea about it. And then there's the actual reality of what it means to be raised over and over again, or beaten over and over again, or, you know, sold over and over. Like, it's, it's, it's one thing in theory, it's another thing in action. And I realized a couple of years ago, like, I have to forgive myself for choosing a mission like this, and in that, forgiveness. I see it, you make peace with your purpose. You can't fully make peace with your purpose until you forgive yourself for choosing the mission. I don't know, I feel like I need to say that for somebody who's going to be watching this video.

Alex Ferrari 23:20
Well, I appreciate that, because that's a very powerful statement. Because it's one thing to like, say, hey, you know, I chose a difficult life. And I, you know, I had, I have, I've had, you know, some trauma in my life where I, you know, got hooked up with the mob when I was younger, and, you know, unfortunately, and went through a lot of deep trauma during that process. And I chose that, I chose that. So, to think about that, and other things that have happened in my life throughout my life. I've chosen those things, if you look at it from that lens, forgiving yourself and never thought about that spiritual power is a very powerful statement, to forgive yourself for this journey. Because in this perspective, we're looking at it right now you need forgiveness. On the other side, you don't need forgiveness for this journey, because it was like, No, you just, like, sat down and you're watching this film. This is you signed up for this, you wanted this. So but it's very difficult for us to, you know, be the who are playing the game, if you will, who are actors in the movie going through it? It's very different than the screenwriter who wrote it. Very, the soul is the screenwriter writing the story. And then you as the actor of like, Oh, I'll do this, I'll do this. But when you're in it, when you're in it, and the mud is hitting you and and you know the fire is over. You're like, am I shooting this movie like does that it's very easy for the writer to just go. Yeah, this happens. This happens and this happens but for when you're in it, to forgive yourself to have agreed to do it. is a very powerful, powerful tool, I think.

Kaia Ra 25:03
I like to use a lot of like military metaphors. And I like to think about these kind of missions, it's like we're boots on the ground. We're literally boots on the ground. We're literally like angelic soldiers on the ground of the matrix. And, you know, the higher realms can't vote unless someone takes on the body. Higher Realms can't, can't intervene. Unless there's players in the in the actual physical game. And so forgiving yourself for choosing to be an active player in the game of awakening, it's it softens the parts of us that might feel like what we've survived is too much to forgive. Sometimes things happen, and it just feels like I don't think I could ever forgive that. Ever. Right? But when you forgive yourself, you forgive like, if you forgive God, because you said yes. You know, it's like, you're you're bringing love and nurturance to the human experience, you're honoring the one that survived, even though your Higher Self said yes, it's like, let's bring some honor to the human vessel that survived and implemented the mission. And, and, and that, I think, is where we're headed. And the next decade of spirituality is like, Okay, who cares if you can channel blah, blah, blah, like, can you do human in a beautiful and powerful and grounded way that honors the human body, the human heart, the heroic human journey, if you're channeling and powers that and I'm all for it, is it's all about getting off the planet and escaping the body. Like, I don't have time for that. It's not changing anything. And it's not honoring, you know, the really intense things that we survive here in this matrix.

Alex Ferrari 27:08
You know, it's funny that you say that, because so many people are just like, I just can't wait to get out of this. This game. You know, I want to get out of this, especially when we're going through the tough times. We've all everyone's gone through, you know, they haven't gone maybe to the extremes of you've dealt with, or even verses of what I talked about, but they they've dealt with pain, everybody deals with pain.

Kaia Ra 27:29
Everyone. Everyone's universal.

Alex Ferrari 27:30
Yeah, every human soul that walks on this planet deals with pain. And one more because you are dealing with a game full of Pain of other people dealing with pain, so you will affect the drama will happen to you, again will happen to you is not a question of if but when. But how you deal with it is the only thing you can control in this game. Is that the dealing of it. But when you're saying forgive yourself, so many people I'm gonna play devil's advocate here, where people listening will go, that sounds great. Kya about forgiving yourself. Or better. This this, you know, b i t c h, who did this thing to me Or did that thing to me? I can never

Kaia Ra 28:14
The monsters,

Alex Ferrari 28:15
The monsters.

Kaia Ra 28:17
The actual monsters.

Alex Ferrari 28:18
Yeah. How can I forgive them? If, and I'm going to play devil's advocate here. Yeah, we all chose to come down here. And those monsters on the other side, say, hey, I'll play that part for you. I'll help you on your journey. Because I got a whole lot of stuff I got to work out. And that's and I'm gonna have to pay for it. But it's something I want to play in. I'm going to play that part. I'm gonna play Hannibal Lecter. I'll play Hannibal Lecter for you in your life, because that's what you're asking me to do on the other side, is that I'm playing devil's advocate. Does that make sense?

Kaia Ra 28:47
No, I mean, you're talking about principles of Christ consciousness. And you know, ultimately, they all come from God and there's, there's a whole chessboard on here, you know, in this matrix that we all agreed to play on. And we agreed to play out the game, to what's the right word? To deconstruct the evil and release our addictions to it from it. So we can when we experience something like being raped, and we say, I forgive you to a perpetrator, we are not in any way. Excuse me. We are not in any way condoning the behavior or the sin or the trespass or the criminal activity of others. Sure, of course. What we're saying is, I have to forgive you, to release you. Out of my life out of my body out of my reality, but forgiving, forgiving someone on what's going on here. forgiving someone and releasing them is not this Same as abdicating your experience of it. To be raped is terrifying. To be raped is to lose all control of your body. To be raped is to be dominated over it is not sexual abuse, it is rape. There's nothing consensual about rape whatsoever.

Alex Ferrari 30:19
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Kaia Ra 30:55
And whether you are a man, woman or otherwise, when you get raped, there is nothing more terrifying devastating or shameful experience is just there's just nothing to describe how horrifying it is to keep living through that memory over and over and over I got. And so when you forgive something or someone that's that horrific, what you're saying is you will no longer control me ever again. I will own my experience and I release you for God to deal with you. Whatever that justice is now I'm saying if someone if you can actually bring someone to actual legal justice, you should do that.

Alex Ferrari 31:47
Let karma deal with it. No, no, no, one way or another you will deal with it.

Kaia Ra 31:51
Yeah, but in terms of if we're talking about the spiritual principles and practice of forgiveness, it's a process of allowing the perfection of God and life and the divine to implement that justice so that you can move forward in the liberation of your own heart. So even though we all play these roles, that doesn't in any way mean we minimize the impact of evil is evil. Yes. And I find that that happens a lot in New Age spirituality, it makes me want to vomit.

Alex Ferrari 32:35
Yeah, it's, it's I don't know if anyone else has said this, but I'm using this phrase lately is toxic spirituality. Yeah, it's this toxic spirituality of, you know, butterflies and rainbows and that kind of stuff. And there's a place for that kind of stuff. And there's, it's part of the package. But if you only focus on that, it's not you're not seeing the wider picture. Because the the experience that we're here is not rainbows and butterflies. It's not. This is not the experience. This is not the journey. You know, if you study any of the Masters, especially like, you know, we've spoken about Yogananda a few times, study his his path, his path was not easy. It was a very difficult path. For me, it's a difficult for any avatar, who's walking the earth, from where he decided to go on his mission, I think around the same age as, as Jesus around 30 or so is when he decided to start coming to America, and going this uphill battle and dealing with this and trying to, and he's just trying to help people and and people suing him and people attacking him and literally running them out of town, because they were afraid of him and, and then being in being what some would call it his best friend screws him Oh, God, all this. It was great. He, he went through a lot in his life. And all he wanted, he told God, he's like, I just want to go back to India. They understand what I'm saying. I don't have to beg them to meditate. They understand like this. But that wasn't his path. So we all have to go through a very difficult path on this earth, some more than others depending on our life. But I appreciate everything you're saying here. And I hope that people listening, this old idea of this new age concepts that are all butterflies and rainbows. That's not the whole package. And I'm this show, I always talk about everything. I talked about the good, the bad and the ugly. And that's why I give a light to where you're talking about in your story. For people to understand that look, this is not we can channel beings. We can talk to psychics, we can talk about quantum physics. We could talk about ancient civilizations. That's all wonderful. It's all part of our the elephant I call it the elephant. I want to see the whole elephant and I'm trying to pin I'm trying gonna connect it all. But that's not pretty all the time. And that's okay. Because that's part of this experience. And that's what we have to do.

Kaia Ra 35:08
Yeah, thanks for taking a stand for that.

Alex Ferrari 35:12
I've tried to try. It's not easy. It's not easy. You know, it's not easy, but, but I hope it helps people again, that's the the mission of what I do. And I think it's the mission of what you do as well. It's just trying to help people walk through this path. And I, and I think you've noticed that too, over the last even 20 years, that the world The world is changed. People are searching for this information. People are asking questions, people are questioning institutions and religions and ideas, old ideas that are not serving humanity anymore. They're being searched for they're searching for shows like this. They're searching for books and teachings like yours, because they're, they're hungry. They're starving to get the truth, or at least

Kaia Ra 35:56
I think stars is an accurate word. Yeah, starving is accurate. For sure.

Alex Ferrari 36:01
The media landscape doesn't give any there's not even there's barely even fast food in this space. As far as spirituality is concerned, like there's, if it wasn't for shows like this, or books, like yours, back and guides people and they're getting more and more, but there's, it's pretty anemic. Out there still.

Kaia Ra 36:21
It is. And thank God that there are leaders and authors and speakers and shows like this that are cute, that continue to pioneer it even in the face of censorship and oppression and and also just people don't even know how to be interested in these things. Or they've been so much of the population has been programmed to fear even being intuitive, let alone psychic. And we're all born intuitive. We're all born psychic.

Alex Ferrari 36:50
Yeah. We all get Yeah, yeah.

Kaia Ra 36:54
So yeah, we're breaking down a lot of walls right now. But while we've come so far, I mean, just like we were talking about earlier, even 20 years ago, you said the word chakra, no one would know what you were talking about. Unless you were in a, you know, a really prolific yoga studio happened. Find something like that. So it's interesting how quickly things are starting to break through now.

Alex Ferrari 37:19
So let me talk about the Sophia Code a little bit. What was your journey on bringing this this book into this book right here, bringing this book into into life? Because it's to my understanding you you channeled Ascended Masters, to to bring this in. So who are these Ascended Masters? I want to know first? Are they are they the top? Are they they're the most famous ones? They're like, you know, the Backstreet Boys of spirituality? Everybody knows, like?

Kaia Ra 37:51
Well, the first eight reveal, well, the first seven reveal key codes are pretty prominent, and in the collective psyche. Yeah, we've got a ascended master Isis and hackler. from Egypt. We have green Tara hailing from Tibet. We have Mother Mary and Mary Magdalene, from the mystical Christian tradition. And we have Quan Yin, from the Isha. And then of course, we have white buffalo woman from North America. So it's this. These are larger than life figures that wanted to reintroduce themselves to humanity in a very human way, in a very relatable way through the Sophia Code. Now the eight key code that activates our divine genome, and the Sophia Code is an angelic order. We'll call the Sarah phone but there are for anyone who studied angelic orders there, there can be multiple levels and an angelic order. And so these particular saris on our dragons, there are these angelic cosmic dragons that are a part of birthing creation. I couldn't believe it. When I first met them. I thought to myself, oh, boy, I'm gonna have to talk about this for the rest of my life that might destroy my career. You know, being being dragons and all but in my research, as I was preparing your releases Sophia Code, I was in this little library in England, in Glastonbury, and this book kind of fell off the shelf, and I thought, okay, my hair, so I was talking and I opened up to the different meanings like the Kabbalistic understanding of the word Sarafem. And it was the fiery creatures of God. And I knew in that moment that I should stop doubting myself completely and that this was, this was an important moment to reintroduce the Sarafem order back to humanity for its awakening because it said The PA code we call them the Sarafem of sovereignty. They embody the holy fire in light of the Divine Mother, which pierces through the Luciferian agendas of the squirrel. And the irony of this is, you know, so much of the satanic mythology is often connected to like reptilian aliens and all of that. And it's just like, that's not what we're talking about here. These are cosmic angelic, Sarafem creatures, fiery creatures of God, that happened to be a part of initiating Ascended Masters throughout eons of time. That's what they reveal to me. So that's our, that's our, like org easiest showcase within the overarching High Council is called the Sophia dragon tribe and knees, this high council was gathered by the Divine Mother of ordained and gathered by the Divine Mother organized by the Divine Mother, who we call Sophia and Sophia code. But of course, Sofia, is just one name for for God. There are countless names for God. And these Ascended Masters represent the brightest and the best, who have served not just on Earth, but in other star systems, the sovereign awakening of a species. So they are experts on how to embody your sovereignty, how to live in the Divine Light of Your sovereignty. When you choose that, it's just like The Matrix just like Neo in the Matrix, you're literally unplugging every part of you off of the dependency and addiction of the Satanic and Luciferian lies that are so prevalent in every, in the entire fabric of the world that we live in, everything's impacted by these agendas. So when you choose to live in your sovereignty, like Jesus, or a mother, Mary or Quan Yin, it's like, you're making a massive statement, you're choosing to be operated by your divine consciousness and and that's why we mentor with the Ascended Masters and the Sophia Code. Because we've got to, we've got to have role models for what that looks like.

Alex Ferrari 42:09
Exactly. Well, that's what we were talking about earlier. They we needed role models, we need to see what Yes, with these, how did you deal with I mean, coming out of this coming out of the closet, I was called a colleague coming out of the spiritual closet in a big way. With this and with you know, the fiery creatures of, you know, the other side and this guy. You're like, oh, because, I mean, from, you know, from our conversation, I mean, you are definitely not so woowoo out there, like, yeah, and then you know, I'm like, You're not that person, you seem to pretty grounded person because of the things you've gone through. So your logical brain is going, Oh, God, I gotta release, you know, kind of got to put this out there. And then I got to talk about this for like the rest of my life and

Kaia Ra 42:59
Hey I'm from the East Coast man.

Alex Ferrari 43:02
I can tell you the energies very east coast, the east coast as well. So yeah, there's that there's that vibe, but

Kaia Ra 43:09
There's that edge.

Alex Ferrari 43:11
There's that edge,

Kaia Ra 43:12
You know, how you're gonna get roasted for it? You know?

Alex Ferrari 43:15
Yeah. So then how did so how did you have the courage to say, I gotta do this, because so many people have are walking right now on that edge. I had to deal with it with this show, of like, being afraid of coming out fully into the show. And, and so many other people had to do that with other aspects of their life. What advice do you have for them?

Kaia Ra 43:38
When you are constantly facing death, you you just really at the core of it, you just, you know, if you're here for a mission, you gotta fulfill the mission that God sent you. That's who you're going back to? Do you have enough near death experiences, you understand exactly where you're going back to? And you don't want to go back and not and report back hit and I didn't actually do what I thought I was going to do. Yeah. Yeah, it's just like, I'm so not interested in that when I'm living in a company of Ascended Masters, you know, it's like, it's not very cool, you know, we got to stay on target. So, and I, you know, and I, I do have some pretty stellar Capricorn placements that really keep me super focused, grounded driven, I want I want these very high level metaphysical concepts to be as relatable as possible to be as effective as possible. Like, I love studying business and, and finance and branding and marketing. Like I love these things. Just because I'm a channel doesn't mean I don't love what's interesting about this world and how concepts are communicated. So I feel like God blessed me in that way. And, and the grit of the East Coast certainly taught me like no one's gonna hand you roses for saying you see you see dragons or dead feet. Well, like probably like, you know, they'll probably be upset at you for it. And maybe occasionally, someone will bring a rose and say thank you that just changed my life but don't bet on the roses. And do it anyways. So,

Alex Ferrari 45:17
Because you had a job either you had a job you had a career, and you

Kaia Ra 45:20
Oh, yeah,

Alex Ferrari 45:21
You walked away from this.

Kaia Ra 45:23
Oh, yeah,

Alex Ferrari 45:26
The security the secure world of writing books and talking to Ascended Masters.

Kaia Ra 45:32
Because you can make a living off writing books. Yeah. Oh, yeah, books are just calling cards and yeah, and bless them for being the calling cards to our missions. But no, it was. You know, I literally felt like I was dying every day I had to live in corporate America, I'm not judging America, I just personally felt like I was dying while I was there. Was it for you, it wasn't for you. And the thing is, is like it trained me every day to become the woman I am to become the business woman and the entrepreneur that I am, like, I learned, I soaked in everything, I I paid attention to everyone and everything. I was taking notes. And so now I have a lot to thank for that, that beginning. And I think it also taught me that I didn't have anyone explicitly saying to me, Hey, the world is run by money. So you might want to be interested in it. But you know, we're having having the education and, you know, the willingness to work in that role. They saw how important money was I saw how powerful it was. And I saw that they were also there wasn't just evil people moving money around, there are very good people in the world moving money around and making powerful decisions. And you know, I think it was the CFO, I was working at the time, when I was in college at this, like the oldest financial firm in the in the country. I was working there marketing department, and he found out that I had to, you know, pay for this very awful surgery, I had to get across, I flew to Oregon for and he actually showed up on my desk, and he was like, Hey, I heard about the surgery. And I just, I just want to write you this check and make sure you know that like we care about you. I mean, I was like in my early 20s I'd never experienced anything like that. And I remember thinking, Well, I've never met a man in power that actually, I want to be a powerful woman someday, and I want to give it and I want to be able to do things like that for people. And yeah, so I have a lot to I think, I think one of my as an entrepreneur, one of the best pieces of advice is like, Don't quit your day job unless you have to like moonlight work towards it build, build the emotional muscle, the musculature of coming out of the club, as it fully of you making a living with what you're doing. Like there's there's nothing wrong with having a second job. If it's the job that you really love, like, build up, build up your inch, your passion, your clientele your network, until you're ready to like push that ship into the sea, and go on a new journey. Like we can be practical about this. I think a lot of people are like gods, how did you Shane, and therefore I no longer need to be practical. It's just like God will provide. It's like, Yes, God will provide if you also provide for yourself.

Alex Ferrari 48:30
It's that oh, this is like the creative situation. Right? Right. It's like the guy who was on top of his house and the floodwaters were coming up and he's on his roof. And a boat comes by. And he's like, God, please help me. Please help me please help me a boat. A boat comes by. And like you can come in. I'm like, no, no, no, God will provide. And then a helicopter comes by like we keep thinking like, no, no, no. God will provide. And then he drowns. He goes up. And he goes, God, what did you choose? I sent a boat. I said to helicopter, you've got to kind of work with me here.

Kaia Ra 49:09
And that could be like, I sent a new client while you were working at your day job. Like, oh, you know, I honestly, you know, as far as like, facing the fears of what people will say or do or Thank you. It's like, man, I've had the worst defamation attacks. I've had people say the most horrible things about me. I've had terrible heartbreaks for coming out and being who I am. But at the end of the day, when I go to sleep, I am myself and you're happy and happy because I'm being who I really am. And I'm not trying to hide behind a desk or some other version of myself. That's not real. I can fall asleep at peace with myself and I can go back to God at the end of my life and say I did it. And I think that's the kind satisfaction that everybody really wants to feel. But you know, maybe they just need to hear maybe maybe this is a part of them saying giving themselves permission. We're all here to give ourselves permission. We've got to do that.

Alex Ferrari 50:11
The thing is when people talk about like, Oh, what are you going to think about what people say to you? Or duty? Yeah, in 100 years, no one cares. No one cares. No one in 100 years. No one cares. Alan Watts said this beaut, and I've been using this quote a lot on the show, and I think it's so powerful he goes, in 100 years, there'll be strangers in your house.

Kaia Ra 50:31
No one remembers the haters.

Alex Ferrari 50:34
No one remembers, I mean, they just won't remember no one remembers the haters. No one remembers this. And if you're lucky, they'll talk about you in 100 years, if you're lucky, if you're lucky, someone someone is still mentioning your name, or your of your presence, and 100 years, and two or 300 years, if they're still talking to you or talking about you. It's a miracle. It's absolutely critical. Because look how many people we talk about in history. And how many millions and billions of people have been on this planet?

Kaia Ra 51:04
Yeah. Mother Mary in the Sophia Code talks about it. It's your legacy of love. If you know that you came here to create a legacy of love. And you live out that legacy every day of your life. Who cares what anyone says about it? Like, honestly, oh my God, you're giving such a huge gift to the world? Why would you punish yourself with ankle biters?

Alex Ferrari 51:28
Oh, yeah. And there's Oh, and there's always an ankle biter? Oh, yes, an ankle biter.

Kaia Ra 51:32
And those people are always the one that aren't actually making a difference. So just sitting in the sidelines of life, honestly,

Alex Ferrari 51:39
Because there are a lot of times people are angry. And if they see someone else succeed, they want to bring them down. It's the crab in the bucket mentality.

Kaia Ra 51:47
And they have no idea how hard people work to actually make a difference. Like it takes so many countless hours and effort and willingness and sacrifice.

Alex Ferrari 51:56
It's the stories themselves. It's the stories they tell themselves. So like, in my story, you're talking about something that contradicts something in my story that makes me feel comfortable with living Yeah, in this game, and you're saying something that's against that, oh, God, I have to, I have to defend it. So I have to attack you. As opposed to if you feel comfortable within yourself and going what you believe has no effect on my life. I mean, unless you're physically doing something to me, when people I love, it means nothing to me, you could believe that. Unicorns run the world. And for you, I'm all about it. I wish you the best with that. Let me know how that works out later. But it doesn't affect me or my belief system, or the story I have constructed in my life, to allow me to work work walk forward in this journey. And the thing with me is I'm very open. So I'm always listening, always learning something new. I'm like, oh, there's something else I can use in my story. There's something else I can use. Because we're growing, we're evolving. You're not just because you learn something when you were 10. I promise you how much stuff did you learn at 10? That is still true. Even even stuff and stuff in the history books, for God's sakes was like, No, I wasn't, that wasn't the way that went. You know, so you're constantly evolving, change is always there. So to be open to change, to be open to new ideas. That's how you evolve. That's absolutely how you evolve. So don't just don't listen to the haters every one of you or anything. If you learn anything in this conversation, listen to the haters. That was Yeah. Let me ask you do you do channel right so you are able to connect to other and other energies if you will, like a Buddha, Jesus, things like that. Okay. Do you mind if I ask one of these? These entities a couple of questions and see what they say how we work with you.

Kaia Ra 53:50
Yeah, let me just take a moment.

Alex Ferrari 53:50
Okay and I don't know who who's coming through so you could let me know who's coming through? Or if it's a combination of every bunch of them. What do you see for humanity in this next coming year in the next five years, so many people are afraid of what's coming. I'd love to hear your thoughts.

Kaia Ra 54:16
And there Susan and masters that are stepping forward, the first of which is Isis. And Isis is stepping forward to share which I believe is extremely obvious to everyone but the the development of AI and robotics and how suddenly all of this will seem to be integrating with within our daily life within human life. But what Isis is sharing is this has been planned for so long that after the last reset of humanity This was going to be introduced, you know right now. And with Pluto moving into Aquarius, and she's saying humanity has survived previous civilizations have this kind of integration. And she's asking us a question. She's like, how do you want this chapter to unfold? Do you want to put your head in the sand again, as in previous generations of exploring this kind of technology? Or does humanity want to choose an awakened conscious path of how they're interacting with their development? That is their tech, technological development, which is moving right now, honestly, at the speed of light. And so there's this invitation from Ascended Master Isis, where she's asking us, how willing are you as a species to start having higher conversations about how AI is being developed? How robotics are going to be introduced into daily life? And are you emotionally and spiritually prepared for that shift? Like, are you willing to expand your mind your body, heart and mind to have a conversation that has never happened before between humanity and its creations? So that's the first step. The second step is Mother Mary stepping forward. Thank you, mother, Mary. Okay. And she's she's saying, we went on this whole journey last year, where I've channeled all these new teachings from her about opening the heart chakra, the manuscripts actually on the board behind me, it'd be releasing it as a book. And mother, Mary is sharing that there's, there's going to be a, like a split, which I think is very obvious to a lot of late workers as well. Over Over the next over this duration of Pluto and Aquarius, and it's those who, who choose the path of the heart, opening the heart chakra truly not as an idea. But truly taking the time to go within cleanse, clear and purge, not just this lifetime of pain, but all of your lifetimes of pain, to keep your heart fully open as a beacon as a lighthouse of truth and sovereignty and divine love in this world. She's saying these will be the liberated ones, these will be the Wayshowers who know how to hold the bridge of light between those who are choosing an awakened sovereign paradigm and those who are choosing to become even more enslaved by the agendas of this world. So there's going to be an even more polarized chapter, shall we say? And the the prayer, the goal is that if enough truly awakened souls were to live in the resonance of that sovereign paradigm that they could hold the light and they could keep the bridge open for souls that are choosing to somehow escaped the level of, of oppression that is here and is coming at a greater level. Okay, so who else is coming through? Okay, this is a Sophia dragon. So the Sarafem are coming through to kind of end round out this dialogue about our current moment in human history. Human beingness and they're saying that the polarization that's happening now is so extreme, that it's actually a part of seeding the potential of a new golden age of ascension. But so many Lightworkers think of the possibility of of a golden age of ascension is something that could happen overnight or something that could happen, you know, in a blink without a lot of effort, and the dragons are asking what does it take to truly embody your sovereignty as a species? What does it take to truly embody your sovereignty as a single person as an individual? What kind of willingness is required to usher in the levels of ascension that your species is so desperately praying for? And we're at a place in quantum reality where the word willingness needs to be our mantra. If we're going to make that quantum leap into a more enlightened and awakened era for humanity, we must be willing to do what is ours to do, each of us came here with a divine purpose to fulfill and we each are each of our divine purposes complete each other like a puzzle. And willingness is going to be the deciding factor of, of the breadth and scope of that sovereign new paradigm that is emerging at this time. But everything that has been built must be sustained. And then when sustained it, it needs to continue to expand. And that takes many hands of many hearts. And so the Ascended Masters are offering to us at this time that if we truly want what we say we want, we must be willing to show up and be what we want.

Alex Ferrari 1:01:06
Beautifully said beautifully, so if you can ask Isis because she brought this up, when we were talking about the reset of humanity that there have been multiple resets in the past? Can she clarify what that means? Is it the the Younger Dryas which was 12,000 years ago was the last reset with Atlantis in that kind of time period, that I'd love to hear what she how many times we've been reset as a as a species to come bears again, and again,

Kaia Ra 1:01:34
There are too many resets to count. They were telling, like in that movie, The Matrix, they were telling the truth on themselves.

Alex Ferrari 1:01:42
It's all because the matrix, yeah, they've, they've used the same code 1000 times or something like that.

Kaia Ra 1:01:48
Well, when when Neil is confronting the architect, he's like, How many times have I been Neo? It's like that. That's the level of like, people like, people go back to the reset. That's the most memorable and collective memory because that's about as much as they can handle because it's so terrifying to think that like maybe every 100 years humanity is reset, and doesn't even know it.

Alex Ferrari 1:02:18
Interesting,

Kaia Ra 1:02:19
Can you imagine how traumatic that would be? To constantly think about a set of controllers just re hitting a button and everyone's gone. And it's recite over and over again? How do you live your life with that level of annihilation consciousness? So it's more comfortable for humanity to think, Oh, that was 30,000 years ago on Atlantis? And it's like, how about like 100 years ago? You know, how about like, 100 years before that. And that's how powerful these controllers are recreating the simulation, this simulacrum of our physical reality. It's super sick.

Alex Ferrari 1:03:02
It's interesting. It's very, very interesting. All right, so my, my next question is, we spoke,

Kaia Ra 1:03:10
But to speak in the words of Isis, because that was a lot of my own interpretation of what she's shown me.

Yeah, part of the Great Awakening that is coming over the next decade is, is for humanity to understand how traumatized it has been. With so many resets of its reality that what does a reset? Do it disorients a species from knowing its true origins, what does the reset do? It just it disorients a species from its own personal power and sense of placement in the universe, not just in the world, not just here on this planet. And so to humanity must come to a level of healing and wholeness enough to even be able to start to face the level of control and trauma that it has survived the level of genetic mutilation, it has survived with countless resets over the past hundreds of 1000s of years on the planet. And she's saying, you can take heart in the fact that we're still here, like these masters of light are still here, working steadily and faithfully towards humanity's ascension beyond this enslavement. They haven't gone anywhere. And it's why souls such as Star seeds and Lightworkers choose to come back again and again because we see the time looping that's happening here. And we want to break the loop.

Alex Ferrari 1:04:55
Okay, that makes that makes sense.

Kaia Ra 1:04:59
So it's like so Sorry, sorry, New Age, rosy Posy world, like it's we worse and and at the same time, and way better because what does this prove to us, it shows us as a speaker shares, we have these invincible souls of Light and Divine power that can keep coming in air dropping down into this matrix to keep sharing the truth to keep waking people up. And it is making a difference it is making an impact. Like, what's more important, ISIS is seeing the form or the soul? The soul, the soul. So if a world is decimated, but billions of souls are saved, what's more important? It's an interesting question. Again, sorry, not the normal New Age thing to say. But

Alex Ferrari 1:05:55
Of course, of course. So let me ask you this because there's this is a kind of a catchphrase. It's been thrown around, since the days of Buddha, which is enlightenment. What, how does the Ascended Masters define enlightenment or a spiritual awakening? And because it's, a lot of people think you have to sit in front of underneath a abandoned tree, and wait until enlightenment comes and you just, oh, I'm here. I'm enlightened now. And you walk around going, I am enlightened, like, no, what is their definition of it?

Kaia Ra 1:06:25
Bringing Tara and her revelations in the Sophia Code, who is considered in Tibetan Buddhism, the mother of all Buddha's, right, so we're talking about the original source of even the concept of Buddhic, enlightenment, she shares with us in the Sophia Code, that enlightenment is simply the decision to look into the light that you are and to never look away. And she's, she says, so much has made has been made of this word enlightenment. But really, it's simply to look into the light of who you really are, and to never look away from it. Like, like, bring some lightness back to enlightenment. She's just laughing while she's telling me this. And I'm like, Yeah, let's bring some light. And, you know, in all fairness, the trauma on this planet is so dense, the the the what we have survived is so dark, it's like, it takes an extraordinary amount of effort to keep your focus upon the light that you are, we have a lot of hard feelings, we've got a lot of regrets. Even a lot of resentments about what we've survived not just in this lifetime, and others. And so that decision to look into the light that you are and never look away. That's a big decision. It's why people like Yogananda in the age of the Guru are necessary. But we're now we're living in the Age of Aquarius. And so this is the time where we we all must access that inner guru that knows how to look into the light that you are, and never look away. And that's why we mentor with the Ascended Masters because they're like, Okay, we get it, we're going to create this sovereign, protective shield of light around you so that you can actually keep your focus long enough to know what's real. And what's real, is that your divine.

Alex Ferrari 1:08:16
What the collective or the Ascended Masters have to think about our our collective awakening that is happening on the planet right now. What where do they see it going in the next few decades? Because there is an awakening, there is a level there's a level, there's, there's no question. And there is those two power, there's those you are mentioning the two, the two energies, the ones that want to stay in what they know, and don't want things to change. And then the other energy that wants things to change and is pulling towards evolution, putting pulling towards a higher frequency. And there that's that's that bipolar, the polarization that you were speaking of.

Kaia Ra 1:09:00
And all my years of channeling the Ascended Masters, what they have shown me is that you cannot fight against what's broken and fix it. So the path or our next level of ascension evolution as a species is for us to stay purely focused on what we want to create. And to be willing to disengage from what isn't working. And to not bypass the deep, truly deep healing inner work that needs to happen for us to be able to not just focus on what we want to create, but sustain it and expand it. Because you can create something but it takes a lot of parenting. It takes a lot of responsibility and commitment to keep growing a sovereign Golden Age. Like that's why any age will fall is because people forget it. takes commitment. It takes show up, it takes an everyday chop wood carry water, kind of the spirituality.

Alex Ferrari 1:10:05
That's beautiful, that's beautiful because it's not. I love that you said that every age can fall because just because you've reached a certain level, it's kind of like I've got a I've got a six pack now, I have a six pack. Yeah, I've been I've worked really hard, I've got this six pack, I'm jacked. If you don't continue to eat right, and go to the gym and work yourself out and do things, you will lose that and you can easily gain all your weight back and, and do all the things that you were on, let's say unhealthy, let's say you can gain on your bounce like that, if you don't if you don't maintain it, if you don't put the work in.

Kaia Ra 1:10:42
And this is why I love mentoring with the Ascended Masters because they look at evolutionary arcs of time, like in spans of 1000 years, or 1000 or 100,000 years. They're not just like what's going to happen next year, you know, what's the astrology for next year? They're like, so we're working on 1000 years of ascension right now? And are you rolling up your sleeves for day? 72? You know? I don't mind that, to me, that's pragmatic to me, that makes sense. You know, if somebody says a golden age is going to happen in a day, I don't believe it. Because that golden age has to be sustained, and expanded and networked out to other people that are also ready to receive it. And so the awakening work that we're doing in this first huge quantum awakening that you spoke of that's happening right now, is just the beginning. We have so much to do.

Alex Ferrari 1:11:38
So what does what did the Ascended Masters have to say about these institutions that have been that did at one moment in time serve mankind? Even if they were, let's say, you know, they did, they had to serve the purpose, let's say they deserve Mehcad. They serve the purpose. Like, it's a lot of established religions. What governments are these ideas of that time that are old now? And they just aren't working? The cracks are being shown, obviously. I mean, I come from the Catholic church that has cracks left and right. You know, pretty big cracks, pretty big cracks. Exactly. And there's so many other there's so many other institutions that are starting to fall, Hollywood being one of them. And other times, you can start seeing things like wait a minute, what happened to did his house? Like, is that really what was happening? It is? Yeah, that was what's happening at Daddy's house.

Kaia Ra 1:12:34
And whatever they're showing you in the mainstream media is just the surface of what's really happening. Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 1:12:39
Oh, absolutely. So yeah, all these what do they have to say about these old institutions, when they're going to actually start to really break down, go away, change, adapt, maybe either adapt to change, or just go away from this new, this new institution, these new ideas to take hold that we're talking about?

Kaia Ra 1:12:58
Okay, so they're showing me this image of a baby. And I the lifespan, like this, the lifespan of a single individual? All right. So if you take that lifespan, and you extend it out a couple 100,000 years, to represent a species A, it's like religion, and government control. It's a learning phase. is like, if you have a lot of newer souls that are that think it's it feels safer and easier to be controlled and told what to think then that's just training wheels for sovereignty, because eventually you're going to want to kick those goddamn training wheels right off your bike and go for a ride. And so I think there's some weird separation and in New Age spirituality, that somehow the human species isn't parallel to just a single person. Like we all go through the maturation process. We all know what it's like to be a screaming toddler and someone and we feel safe as someone who's controlling us, putting us to bed and telling us what to do, what to think and when to drink and when to eat and when to go. And it's like, humanity is moving at a toddlerhood.

Alex Ferrari 1:14:24
That's . That makes sense. Now, that makes sense. So, because

Kaia Ra 1:14:31
The challenge with that analogy is that humanity has been enslaved for so long, that it's hard to make that analogy because not only are we dealing with like toddlerhood in terms of evolutionary arcs, we're dealing with like, how do we how do we navigate the depths of collective trauma? Yeah, like that, that level of like worldwide wars and atrocities for 1000s of years. Of course, people are going to need religion, they can barely, they can barely have a moment of themselves, they're surviving a slave matrix, they're surviving. the atrocities of these wars are surviving a financial slave system,

Alex Ferrari 1:15:13
Tthey something they need to something to hold on to.

Kaia Ra 1:15:15
Yeah, they just trying to keep their kids alive and food on a table. You know, it's just like, of course, religion served its purpose, it was five minutes out of a week of survival, that they could hopefully find some peace and a moment to themselves. And I think we, as a society for forget that, like, most of humanity, it's just busy surviving. And religion is like an easy way to kind of supplement that reality. And you don't have to certainly don't have to think too hard.

Alex Ferrari 1:15:51
That's very tricky,

Kaia Ra 1:15:53
You know, because thinking sometimes thinking hard thoughts get you in trouble.

Alex Ferrari 1:15:57
So why are you asking these crazy questions? Yeah. Why are you asking like silly questions of like, what? What is the meaning of life? You know, why are we here?

Kaia Ra 1:16:09
So you know, to for religion to crumble means that enough of the population of humanity has to feel strong enough to go within and find a genuine form of spirituality for themselves. And that's what we're starting to have what we're starting to see happen. That took a long time to get there, though.

Alex Ferrari 1:16:31
It's still we're still there. We're still working? Well, you and I are working on that right now, with this conversation, I mean, this conversation is going to hopefully, open up some people's eyes. And they might not agree with everything we've said. But they might pick up a couple nuggets here or there, or maybe a couple of seeds might be planted that they go off and read a book or they go off and watch a show or they go off and you know, pick up there's a fear code and whatever that is, it's it's there. I always tell people don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. You know, just because everything that I said in the conversation isn't exactly what you wanted to hear. There might be one or two nuggets in there, I find that all the time and shows and movies and documentaries and books, you know, there's little moments of things that you can grab on that that might help you so.

Kaia Ra 1:17:16
Areally good analogy with what's featured in the Sophia Code. And I've been teaching about the Sophia Code for 10 years now. In the beginning of the movement, so many people that came only wanted to hear from Mother Mary, or Kuan Yin or Isis, like they needed a human face to connect with the message. Now I have all these people coming and they're like, I don't want to I want to hear from the Dragons. And unlike warn you they're like, What are you gonna start talking more about the star nation can and I'm like, wow, so the shift is happening. You know, but those those those religious faces and of course, the Sophia Code is offering their original source teachings, not the religious teachings of these figures. Sure. The but you know, those those were that safety for a lot of people. They don't want to be in religion, but the face and the association with the religion brings safety to them. So the stepping stone

Alex Ferrari 1:18:18
No question, no question. Now I'm going to ask you a few questions. Ask all my guests. Okay, what is your definition of living a fulfilled life?

Kaia Ra 1:18:29
Staying true to my heart, living a life dedicated to creativity and sovereignty.

Alex Ferrari 1:18:36
Now, if you had a chance to go back in time and speak to little Kaia what advice would you give her?

Kaia Ra 1:18:43
Bitcoin. No, just kidding. No, no. I mean, maybe.

Alex Ferrari 1:18:56
I mean, I mean, it's always there. I'm like,

Kaia Ra 1:18:58
I mean, like, yeah. I would say, I would say the world's not ready for you, but be who you are anyways. Because the world needs you.

Alex Ferrari 1:19:17
How do you define God or Source?

Kaia Ra 1:19:20
I define God or source as the unconditionally loving presence that created all that is.

Alex Ferrari 1:19:28
What is love?

Kaia Ra 1:19:29
Love is a consciousness that we get to align with to live in our highest potential, and experience our greatest joy.

Alex Ferrari 1:19:38
And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

Kaia Ra 1:19:41
To love and to be loved.

Alex Ferrari 1:19:44
And where can people find out more about you? The Sophia Code and the amazing work you're doing in the world?

Kaia Ra 1:19:48
You can find out about my work kaiara.com and that's spelled kaiara.com. And we also have two free spiritual offerings there Have an anarchist prayer collective and the sovereign soul alliance for survivors that you can find out about and join us for free at thesophiacodefoundation.org.

Alex Ferrari 1:20:09
And do you have any parting messages for the audience?

Kaia Ra 1:20:12
Well, first, I just want to say thank you. This has been so fun and enjoyable. And yeah, I just think you. Yeah. It was getting a little nervous before a podcast like, oh, man, where are they going to ask this is just so lovely. Thank you for all of your considerate ways, and for everything that you bring to the table. And your wonderful questions. And I think I would say I think I would just close with like, the greatest thing you can offer this world is to love yourself. And that can take the rest of your life to learn how to do the way that your heart really needs you to love it. So, we're here for you if you're ready to learn how to love your own heart with the Sophia Code teachings, that's what I would share.

Alex Ferrari 1:20:56
Kaia thank you so much for coming on the show and for your bravery and for the work that you're doing in the world to help awaken the planet. So I appreciate you my dear, thank you again.

Kaia Ra 1:21:06
Thank you, Alex. What a pleasure to be here. Thank you.