MIND-BLOWING! The VATICAN’S SUPPRESSION of JESUS’ FORBIDDEN Teachings REVEALED! with RJ Spina

Rj Spina 0:00
There weren't 12 disciples, Alex, there were 24, 12 of them were women. So Mary Magdalene is from the same Higher Self as Christ, in the same amount and level of sentience, just as evolved, just as powerful, just as gifted as Christ. They absolutely had kids. Jesus lived to be 117

Alex Ferrari 0:22
Yeah, so that's another thing I've been hearing a lot about as well, that the crucifixion did not actually happen.

Rj Spina 0:28
These next six years are going to be the the wildest ride that humanity has ever had, because everything is being exposed right now, and even more is going to be exposed. There's going to be more lies.

Alex Ferrari 0:55
I'd like to welcome back to the show returning champion, RJ Spina, how you doing RJ?

Rj Spina 1:00
I'm doing great. Alex, this is a blast. Thank you for having me. This is very impressive. I'm looking forward to this.

Alex Ferrari 1:05
Oh, I appreciate that, man. Thank you so much for making the trek down here to the next level. Soul studios. I appreciate it. Now you've been on the show, I think three times before already said this might be your I think it's your fourth, third or fourth being on the show. And I mean, your story is pretty remarkable, of how you've been able to heal yourself and and that you were paralyzed and you and you kind of brought yourself back up to where you are today, and that there's a lot of people online. I've actually doing research for this interview, saw people saying, oh, you know, I bet he still paralyzes. All just a show. I just want to let everybody know that RJ has been walking around quite nicely throughout this entire time. Believe me, don't believe. RJ would you just like to walk, you know, to step up for that second?

Rj Spina 1:48
Oh, you know, I can. I'm paralyzed.

Alex Ferrari 1:50
There's that. Okay. So let's move on. Let's move on. This is going to be an interesting conversation. Yes, we're here also to talk about your new book, Access Super Consciousness, there's the third book, right?

Rj Spina 2:04
That's the third one. Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 2:05
The third one you're working on the fourth one already.

Rj Spina 2:06
The fourth one is written and contracted and comes out January. We're getting ahead of ourselves, but January of 2026

Alex Ferrari 2:14
Oh, wow. So it's gonna be a minute before that one comes out.

Rj Spina 2:16
Yeah. So I was told that we have to. So the second book came out August 8 last year. Access super conscious just came out August 8. So a year apart, and they already have the fourth book. And like I said, it's contracted. I said, Well, let's do August 8 of 2025 like, oh, we can't do that. Well, why we've been doing August 8, August 8, it sounded makes perfect sense to me. They go, no, no, we don't want it to compete. So we need, we need to give it about a year and a half that's not going to compete. It's totally different. But that's the story.

Alex Ferrari 2:45
That is old school publishing, sir, correct. That is old school mentality, old school publishing. But that's okay. It's okay. It'll eventually get out. It'll be fine. It'll be fine. So my first question to you today, sir, is, can you explain to people vibration and frequency, because it's something that we all taught, maybe in good vibes, or, you know, I felt the energy of somebody. Can you kind of break down exactly what frequency is and vibration is on a spirit from the spiritual unconsciousness standpoint?

Rj Spina 3:14
Yeah, absolutely. So we use those things synonymously, almost like they're the same thing. And actually they're not at all. So vibration, we can think of vibration is another, another word for information. So when we talk about someone's vibration, that actually is their level of love and wisdom, whose subsets are their talents and abilities. And that's the I Am, that's the self with the capital S, that's the God within us, as we're a fractal of God. It's our vibration, that's what that is. It's our information. It's how wise, how loving, and our talents and abilities. Vibration frequency is an assignation or assignment, but it's really assignation of energy. So if you think of like our phone, our phone operates on a certain frequency, or a microwave on a certain frequency, computer on a certain frequency. So energy exists frequently or in frequency, and we, when we have a human experience in the lower frequencies, our body, mind complex, is attuned to and part of the local environment, which is a specific set of frequencies, but the vibration is actually what we are. We are inside the suit, temporarily, and we are the the love, the wisdom, the talents and abilities that is emanating a vibration. The key, in terms of frequency and vibration, is to attune the body, mind as much as you can, to the I Am, or to the self, the capital S, the sentience, and that actually automatically raises the frequency. So when we meet someone who's very in tune to who and what they really are, they actually emanate a higher frequency because they're attuning their body mind and their subtle. Body of energy to the supreme vibration, which is, which is the God within us all.

Alex Ferrari 5:04
So that's why, when you hear stories of yogis, when people just walk near them, or near them, they they literally are engulfed, intoxicated by their presence, almost.

Rj Spina 5:14
Yeah, yeah, literally, it's, it's emanating, and the more sentience and energy is in from my direct experience, it's in a one to one ratio. It's a pound of sugar, pound of butter, pound of butter. So as sentient, as wise as you are, you're also given an complement of energy to match that. So when we talk about a yogi or a master, they're so sentient, they're so wise, and they're also even given more energy so they can use it, because it's always in a in a one to one ratio. And then when we interact with one who's really projecting and emanating, I mean, you can, you can feel it from across the room, but that's where it comes from. They've attuned the subtle body of energy, and their physical body of energy to their vibration, and that's why it that's why it emanates so powerfully.

Alex Ferrari 6:01
So how do frequencies affect our bodies, our physical bodies and our spiritual bodies? Because I, I know I've said this before, but like, when you walk into a room, you could always, like, if two people have been arguing, you walk in as a kid, you go, Oh, someone's wrong in this room. Or if some violence went down, or even if you just meet someone who's very toxic and very heavy energy. We always say, like, Oh man, that was just, I feel drained after being around them. Or vice versa. You walk in a room with Robin Williams and all of a sudden you're like, Man, I feel so amazing because that energy was just so vibrant. I use that as an example. But can you talk a little bit about how it affects us?

Rj Spina 6:37
Yeah, so there's, it's residual, right? So it's kind of like, if you cook something, the the aroma, the aroma is there for quite a while, right? So it's the same thing. There's an actual effect. Now the we are naturally when we're not incarnate, we are a supremely high frequency being. So we're used to operating in a very high frequency way. And so when we meet someone, Robin Williams, or whoever like that is up, we feel better. So we're affected. The lower the frequency, the more that we're affected. And I'll use the word negatively, even though negative and positive is very subjective. But when we meet someone, or we interact with a situation or people that was a very low frequency activity that was going on, we can actually feel it. The lower the frequency, the less the body mind works optimally, and so the lower the frequency, this is also where we start to get sickness, disease, decrepitude and demise, eventual demise, because the energy is not flowing as it can optimally. The lower the frequency, the more it deadens, and the less good we feel. And that's really where that comes from.

Alex Ferrari 7:40
So how do we how do we attach ourselves to higher frequencies? How do we connect with higher frequencies?

Rj Spina 7:47
By detaching from lower frequencies? So be so it's, it'll happen automatically. So in other words, we're such a high frequency being that we then identify with our body. The body is attuned to, and part of the local environment, which is low frequency. Then once you identify with the body, you're going to identify with what the body produces, thoughts, emotions, bodily sensations and the experiences that the body has sometimes traumatic, right? So all of that lowers, lowers our frequency greatly. So if we detach or no longer identify with the physical body and the physical body, the identification with the physical body is the foundation of our egoic identity. So as we start to detach from identification with the body, our frequency will actually just start to rise. We're naturally a supremely high frequency being we don't have to do anything to actually raise our frequency. It's in trying to raise our frequency is where we have the stumbling block. It's kind of like what I call it the actor performing an action. So that's really your egoic identity trying to do something. So in other words, it's that low frequency character is the one that's trying to raise the frequency. The key is not to have the actor perform actions, but rather go before the actor even exists. And we can call that meditation if you want, by doing nothing. And when I say nothing, I mean, don't be thinking, emoting like that. Just allow yourself to actually experience the self, and that will actually supremely raise our frequency. And that's actually what clears out all those disharmonious energies.

Alex Ferrari 9:29
So all those so the power of meditation, though, is when you are meditating, and this is from my experience, when you're meditating, a lot of the the stuff that's holding on to the helium balloon, because helium balloon is your your normal frequency that's being held back down by weights, by garbage and thoughts and other things like that, you know, and all that stuff. So that's holding that down. As soon as you start letting go of that, the balloon starts to lift a little bit when we temporarily do that when we go into meditation. That's why meditation is so important. Because when you go in and. You kind of create almost a simulated world where there is no weight, and you start to connect with the higher frequencies, almost like a simulation the Danger Room in the X Men, or the holodeck in Star Trek. This is a simulation. And then when you pull out of meditation, those weights are put back on, and your frequency comes back in. But the more you meditate, a little bit more of that weight keeps getting pushed off, pushed off. But that's why people who are meditating, you know, a long time, or monks, or things like that, even people who meditate 2030, minutes a day consistently for years and years and years, it's almost impossible to hold on to a lot of that weight. You will eventually start rising and rising just because you're letting go of that weight. Does that make sense?

Rj Spina 10:49
That's perfect sense. And the reason why you said it makes it impossible because you have now seen through the illusions so they no longer have the power over your consciousness and therefore your body of energy, because whatever conceptualized reality we crave for ourselves, the body has the tangible experience of that. That's the mind body connection in one sentence. That's it right there. So through meditation, right where do we do? Just what you said, this stuff just starts to fall away. So there's, there's. We're no longer under the delusion of the authenticity of those things, and that's why we no longer identify with them. So now all of a sudden, that meditative state, that higher frequency state, starts to become permanent, because we're no longer identifying with what I call body consciousness, thoughts, emotions, bodily sensations and the experiences that the body has. Meditation, when done properly, will annihilate the very idea that we're merely human. We start to see through all those delusions. And once we see through them, we never, all of a sudden, said, Well, now I know who I really am. I'm gonna just chuck all that, and I'm gonna go right back to this delusion that I know is no longer true. I'm gonna believe in the delusion of my thoughts and my emotions that I'm really this. It never, ever works that way. And through meditation, we're able to and this is the foundation of all the work that I've ever done. It's through meditation. What's really happening from my direct experience, Alex, is that we're experiencing more of our true self, more of the immortal, limitless, divine fractal of God that we are, which is literally infinite, and through meditation, we start to experience more that, and the more that we experience this, the less we'll believe in the limitations of so called personhood. And this is how, foundationally speaking, this is how self healing and self realization actually works as well as manifestation. They're all They're not the same thing. They're not the same thing. But there's metaphysics behind all three of them, and they're all They're all intrinsically linked. And the key is meditation. The self is meditation. We are meditation. We don't have to do anything to meditate. You and I exist before there's a thought, and we exist before an emotion. We exist before the body. So when, once we start to actually just meditate, 24/7, because when you're engaged, as you know, when you're engaged in something you're doing, that's meditation. That's flow state, correct? That is flow state. That's it, right there. That's it.

Alex Ferrari 13:14
So when people have at least, it sounds to me like when people have a near death experience or take a psychedelic, it's a very it's a very abrupt way of doing what we're talking about, because when you have a near death experience, you automatically lose all of it. Are exposed to the other side, exposed to the truth. When you come back down, some of those ideas get thrown back on but you're forever changed because you now have seen beyond the matrix, if essentially, and when you take a psychedelic, it's like you're crashing through in a very rough way. This same scenario, even astral projection allows you to do something similar. It's a form of meditation, almost, yeah, being able to do that. So there's many modalities and some that you don't want to do like a near death?

Rj Spina 14:00
Yeah, I'm gonna give myself a near death.

Alex Ferrari 14:02
I mean, we're not Flatliners here. You and I are both old enough to remember that movie. Yes, yes, so, but, but that seems to it's almost like trying to disconnect from the play that we're in, the movie that we're in, once it's where, like we're trying to step off stage. So the analogy would be, we're in a movie right now. You are playing RJ, I am playing Alex, that's the characters we're playing in this, in this play. But when we step off, my real name is Bob, your real name is Sally, yeah, don't ask. And and you go off and live your actor life, and I go off and live my actor life in my real world. This is just an illusion, because we've created this illusion So meditation, psychedelics, near death experience, astral projection, allow you to step off stage out of the camera's view to see the truth, the insanity that we all live in. And is that you think that you are RJ all the time, I think I am Alex all the time, and to assume complete identification with this story or character is the insanity would be as the same as Anthony Hopkins thinking he's Hannibal Lecter, or that Mark Hamill is Luke Skywalker and walking around like Luke Skywalker. That's why people would don't want to work with Daniel Day anymore, because he becomes the butcher right for five months

Rj Spina 15:30
Watch out.

Alex Ferrari 15:32
Exactly. So it's, it's that kind of insanity. Is that all makes sense?

Rj Spina 15:37
Yeah. So the key to that is the non identification, right? And as you said, the story now, the story is the voice in our head, the programming, the programming, that's what that is. That's the spell that we put over our consciousness, and therefore our body of energy, whatever story we're telling ourselves, we are actually creating that reality. And I just call it a spell, because it's not who and what we really are at all. It's the detachment from a purely metaphysical perspective. It's detachment from what I call body consciousness and that, and that would be meditation. And when you detach from body consciousness, you don't identify with the body, thoughts, emotions or bodily sensations, you actually tangibly recognize that you're not those things, that you were something far I'll use the word greater, that you're something far greater and far more expansive than just body consciousness. And that's why people are never the same. In general, that's why people are never the same after an ND, or they do Ayahuasca or something like that, right? Or project, or they've actually learned how to project their consciousness. You can't then tell that story that you had of yourself before that it doesn't fit anymore, right? It doesn't. Can't unlearn it. Yeah, you can't. So once it happens, that's why people come back from those experiences. And they're literally, they're changed forever.

Alex Ferrari 17:08
Right. It was just like, you know, once, once you drink the red pill, yeah, you can't undrink it, right? You know, you know, Neo saw the other side, and he can't go, Oh, I'm just a hacker that's right in the matrix. No, you've seen the other side. You understand the other side. And I think, you know people come on the show have an understanding of that of the other side, even if they may even not experienced it. If you meditate a lot and you're doing it at a certain level, you do have experiences. You do have, I mean, I have mystical, mystical experiences, things coming in. I always ask questions and help and get them answered in in meditation, it's a direct conduit. Now, when you're a master, a yogi master, or something like along those lines, I mean, even Yogananda, you'd be like, I'll be gone for a few days when you need me just whisper in my ear. And he would just there meditate with his eyes slightly open, and he would just sit there for days. And his master, we need you, okay, what's going on? And he would just be gone in another place. You know, I wouldn't mind doing I mean, that'd be kind of fun to be able to have that kind of mastery over it. And that's what we all are aiming towards, eventually, enlightenment, essentially, look what the Buddha did and what Jesus did.

Rj Spina 18:20
Yeah, yeah, correct. I mean, if we look at what enlightenment really is, enlightenment and self realization, are they the same thing? And then again, technically and metaphysically, enlightenment and self realization is full communion with your higher self, yeah, that's that's what that is. So when we no longer identify with the body consciousness, what is it that remains? What remains is the I Am, the self, and if we don't do anything, that connectivity and communion just automatically comes back online. Hence, people, Yogananda and others meditating for days on end, because they're literally in full communion with who and what they really are. It's It's eventual for everybody. Well, let me put it this way, Self Realization and enlightenment. Then maybe this will be controversial. Maybe it won't, but Self Realization and enlightenment is not something that every single person is going to experience. Oh, absolutely, it's not. But what souls do experience in terms of not having to reincarnate again at a certain point is that after a while, that higher self that's been projecting aspects of itself, which would be you or me, and when the higher self projects aspects of itself, the higher self goes into a state of stasis, and all its aspects and projections are learning on its behalf. So our incarnations are for the benefit of our higher self. Once the higher self has projected all these different aspects or souls, you or I, and it's kind of garnered every type of learning experience that it can from the lower frequencies of the physical universe, at that point that higher self won't project a piece of itself into the. Lower frequencies anymore, unless, unless it does, just at a service. The Enlightenment thing is, when we're projected into the lower frequencies of the physical universe, and that tiny little aspect, about two and a half percent of the higher self actually has full realization and full communion with who and what it really is. That's enlightenment, and that's, that's very rare.

Alex Ferrari 20:22
Well, exactly it is rare. It's becoming less rare than it used to be, than it used to be. Yeah, our consciousness is, as a society, has grown tremendously. But, and I agree with you that a lot of people are like, Oh, if you say Oh, not everyone's going to be able to be enlightened in this life. No, you're not going to play basketball with Michael Jordan, not his level. I'm not either, it's okay. Yeah, I might in this life, really want to play basketball, and maybe I'll get to a college level or a semi pro level. Not now. We're beyond that. Too many things pop when they get the holodeck stuff. We do have the holodeck exactly in virtual reality. I'm like, I'm the bomb, yeah? But we can, we can raise our skill set and our experience to a certain level, yeah? Because that's the, that's the limitations that we were given in this life. Yeah, you know, you you're never going to be six seven. I'm never going to be six seven. You know? I'm never going to play for them. Never going to be a wide receiver for Miami Dolphins. I always wanted to. It's never going to happen, because it wasn't, I wasn't built for that in this experience at this time. So that's not uh oh, I'm not gonna get enlightenment. Yeah, it's gonna be like, Oh, I'm not gonna play in the NFL, oh, I'm not gonna play in the NBA, oh, I'm not gonna be a, you know, billion dollar movie star. That's for certain souls at that level of existence, that level of incarnation, they're gonna they came in going, Tom Cruise came into this life, going, I want to experience being the biggest movie star in the world, and not only for a little while, I want to hold on to it for like, 40 years. Can I do that? And they're like, cool, that would be that way. And then he also has other experiences that he's dealing with as well, but that was his experience, and it's completely okay. Now, if we really want to get trippy, there is a parallel universe right now where you are playing in the NBA, and so am I, because we're experiencing everything all at once, right from this incarnation, yes. So that would be, it's, you know, that's a very interesting idea. We won't go down that road because that's a deep, deep, deep road. But do you agree with long saying?

Rj Spina 22:20
Absolutely! Yeah, absolutely one, so one single lifetime, right? So we've heard the Tree of Life, right? What? Okay, so my experience that what the Tree of Life is is what we're just about to talk about. It's so we have our main trunk of the tree, right? And that's our life plan that we map out, Tom Cruise, being a movie star this, right? So, okay, so that's our that's our main life plan. That's the main trunk. Okay, so now, throughout the Incarnation, every time we have a choice, should I move to New York? Should I move to Chicago? Should I take this job? Should I take that job? Right? Every time we make a choice, a branch forms from that tree. Now we only make one of the choices, right? So I'm going to go to go to New York, so I'm not going to move to California. Well, there's a version of you that went to California. So every time there's a choice, because existence is constant, a major choice too, not like ketchup and mustard, no, no, yeah, something that where there's evolutionary content, correct? That can be gained or accrued, that's, that's what actually causes that, right? So if it's literally inconsequential, then there's no there's no after effect, yeah, well, there's nothing to there's nothing to actually gain. So consciousness, and you can call it God, Source Creator, is conscious. So anytime it has an opportunity to evolve itself, it's going to now where we are, now the where our human mind is operating through the logic and linearity program, of which are subsets of space and time we're not consciously aware of the choices that we didn't make, that they're actually coming to fruition. So that tree of life, we get the main trunk exactly what we set out to do, and then all the branches that offshoot are all the different parallel conditions and parallel versions of choices that we took that weren't necessarily in complete alignment with our life plan. So when we start to look at that, the evolutionary content such a gift one lifetime is Alex, because all of that evolutionary content even from the choices that we didn't make, we're gaining the evolutionary content from the choices that we consciously don't even realize that we didn't take that we think we didn't take them. We did. So one lifetime, that's how much evolution happens. We gain the evolutionary content of every choice that even pops up, even though we only went left. We think nothing happened over here, it did. And we're the ones that are evolving, and therefore soars are higher self, and therefore Source, Source, God, Creator.

Alex Ferrari 24:45
So you also spoke about a thing called the fourth frequency. What is that?

Rj Spina 24:48
Well, fourth, fourth frequency. So we, what's popular in the spiritual community is that we're going to the fifth dimension. We prepare, and we go, okay, we're not. So we are. We are. Ascending. We're not going into the fifth dimension. So energy exists frequency. We talked about that, right? So the fourth frequency is the next frequency above where we are right now we're in the bottom three frequencies because energy exists frequently, not dimensionally. So we're in the bottom three frequencies. These bottom three frequencies band together because the energies are slow, so slow and dense, they need to band together to support one another. So our world, these bottom three frequencies, band together to give us height, weight and width, which is a three dimensional reality. So that's why we call it. We're in 3d the third frequency, we're going to the fourth frequency. And this is, this is what the ascension process is. We don't skip the fourth frequency. I've also heard that, you know, there's, there's no skipping. You actually have to experience everything as you're as you're ascending. But this is actually where we're going, into the fourth frequency, where more of our astral and we're starting to see it already, more of our astral abilities are coming online. Claircognizance, clairvoyance, things like channeling, these are attributes or aspects of our astral body. So as we're getting closer and closer to the fourth frequency, which is the first frequency of the astral level, the astral realm is fourth, fifth, sixth and seventh. As we enter the fourth more of these talents and abilities will come online in a universal way, even things like teleportation, telekinesis, these are all part and these things start to really anchor in and come online as we actually fully enter into the fourth frequency,

Alex Ferrari 26:35
Which is what yogic powers are. You got it? Yeah, yogic powers are everything. You just say yoga, there's stories of yogis being able to do biolocation and levitation and manifestation, like physical manifestation, of stuff very Yeshua, yeah, a lot of Yeshua miracles. I always say like that, that's a yogi. He's a he seems like a master yogi, which, by the way, I mean, can we go down? Yeah, we should, what? Jesus? Yeshua, yeah. Jesus is just another way of saying Zeus, but another thing, yeah, yeah. That's, that's how that word is. But his name was Yeshua, from my understanding, Yeshua. I always, I always like to ask the question. In the Bible, it says, I'm born, we see 12 years old, yada yada yada. I Come on, I come back in a donkey that yada yada yada has always been a very gray area. It's one of the reasons I got scolded so much at Catholic school. I kept asking that at a very young age, I'm like, what happened those years we don't talk about that. Why don't we talk about that? I don't understand. Why did you guys edit that out? Seems like I'd love to see what teenage Jesus would be doing, you know, or teenage Yeshua, you know, was he a hell Hellraiser? Sorry, you know, what was he doing? You know, how did, how did it work? So, from your understanding, and I've asked the show, and I've asked this a few times on the show, I'd love to hear what you think, or have you found in your studies and access to your higher self, what actually was Yeshua doing during those years?

Rj Spina 28:03
Oh, okay, so I teach a whole course on the Bible, but in terms of this and what is rarely accessed in terms of our level of consciousness. So his earthly father, Yeshua, Ben Joseph, Jesus, His earthly father, Saint Joseph is also that was an incarnation of master R and the being that we know as Saint Germain and Merlin and Moses, things like that. So when his earthly father, Joseph died, Jesus was 12. Now at that moment, instead of what quote, unquote, typically happens, his earthly father has left his body, but he stayed right with him. He never actually left. He just no longer was within his body. So his earthly father then guided him

Alex Ferrari 28:48
Very Obi Wan Kenobi, very, okay,

Rj Spina 28:51
Very, I mean, the Jedis are the masters. I mean, that's, I mean, that's the way it is. Yeah, that's what's going on here. So his earthly father, and of course, even at 12, Jesus, could see, could already see past the veil. So even though his dad died, he still saw his father, so he was right there with him. And it was at that point that some of the remembrances started to come back to Jesus, about what it is that he was meant to do in this life. And also now his earthly father could actually say these things officially, because he was outside of his body, because the time had come. So he escorted Jesus, and Jesus spent the next 18 years studying. He went to Egypt. He went to India. A lot of the things that Jesus actually studied were some of the metaphysics that his earthly father had mastered and other incarnations, things like Reiki. I mean, Jesus studied Reiki. He was a healer, the right? So he exactly so that being knows how to heal. It's the being that was Saint Joseph was also master R, and that being knows how self healing works that but that being can put himself back together whenever he feels like it. So he started re educating. Jesus on the specifics of Reiki and self healing, and that was in Egypt, from Egypt, and this went on for like 12 years. The massive teaching happened when they arrived at India. And this is where mahavatar Babaji spent years and years and years with with Jesus, literally, I'm not going to say, teaching him, because that being already knew what it's like to be a master. Just he just hadn't woken fully woken up yet. But mahavatar babati spent years with Jesus reminding him of the metaphysics of How to Become, how to be a true master. And the whole time, his earthly father was still with him, just in spirit, going over being there with him. So it was 18 years of training that we just can't get. We you, and I just can't sign up for that. So it had to do with the life plan. So Jesus was in India, and he was, he was first in Egypt, and then he went to India, and he spent 18 years studying the mastery of metaphysics. And then when, when he came back, he was christened, he had been purified. He had purified himself. All his talents and abilities had come back online. And what very few people from my understanding, what very few people understand, is because his earthly father had worked with Jesus and many other incarnations, Jesus had purified himself Alex to the point where he could allow His earthly father, or master R and Archangel Michael to literally work through him at the same time. That was actually the trifecta. So it was Jesus, it was master R and Archangel Michael, and that's why Jesus, for all intents and purposes, could have done anything. Because the level of purification and the level of sentience combined with it was three beings working through him, walking on, what if he would have slammed his hand against the ground, it would have caused an earthquake if he wanted to.

Alex Ferrari 31:58
Yeah, completely. Well, he's Neo. Then at that point,

Rj Spina 32:01
Literally, there was nothing. He couldn't do nothing. That world. Literally nothing.

Alex Ferrari 32:06
Yeah, he was, he was essentially Neo and completely controlled simulation.

Rj Spina 32:10
Yep, essentially you got it .

Alex Ferrari 32:12
Completely understood everything at every level, the programming, the code, if you want to use those analogies. So that makes all the sense of the world. But very much so Kim Babaji and many of those masters that become Ascended Masters, the yoganandas and these kind of people, these beings, they get to a level where they could do that. Though, Yeshua seems to have a very special space in that conversation. Not no one's better or worse. It's just different. Buddha has a different space in that conversation, because, out of all the Ascended Masters, I mean, you've, I've spoken about Ascended Masters before. We'll speak more about them today. The Saint germains, the the quagens, Quang, gins, Kwan, Jins, the the Merlins, the everyone who's on this wall, all these kind of stuff. The one has the best marketing campaign. Yeshua and Buddha seem to have. I mean, at least in the west and in the east, those two are pretty high up and in a different way than the other Ascended Masters. Man, many people understand who Yogananda is, and he's, I mean, reached millions upon millions upon millions, and really has affected and continues to affect the world. Which is a very interesting thing about Ascended Masters, is that the work that they do ripples throughout history. I mean, we're still talking about Yeshua. He's 2000 years ago, and he was talking about stuff that we're still trying to wrap our head around today. Very simple, though, Buddha talked about things that we were just trying to wrap our heads around today. What's your opinion on that?

Rj Spina 33:49
Well, well, there's a big section in the new book that talks about, and very specific, Alex, about the Ascended Masters and the ones that tend to work with one another. I can say, in regards to the earth plane, the two the far most active Ascended Masters are El Morya, who was Sri Yukteswar, who actually comes from our God. And I give an explanation about the Ascended Masters. They actually come from the Elohim, the Elohim that are mentioned in Judeo Christian texts, there are. There really are. And I'm not the only one that experience it's rare. I'm not the only one that experiences this. Because the Hindu masters talked about this. There are 12 gods that we live within the multiversal structure of one of these gods, the Ascended Masters. We can think of them as the children of the other gods, and that's why they do these unusual things. That's why they're so mesmerizing. They have these other worldly abilities. Yeah, exactly. They literally have these other worldly abilities, because they're literally not from here. And Christ is one of them. Buddha is one of them. El Morya, Shri Yukteswar is the only. The Ascended Master that's actually from our God. And what I find most interesting about him and him and master are, Saint Germain, do more work on the earthly plane than any other Ascended Master, and for whatever reason, well, Babaji, yeah, it's emotional to talk about. So for whatever reason, that soul right there. Doesn't seem we just don't know enough about him. He's always here, and he's always doing work here. And Master R is what Master R's incarnations are much more I don't know. He's like a showman, I guess. I mean, he know, he knows, he knows how to work the crowd, as well as being

Alex Ferrari 35:36
I mean, say, if you listen Saint Germain, Merlin, Moses, these guys all work the crowd.

Rj Spina 35:43
Yeah, yeah. They have a they have us. Then he's got a special flair. He's also the manager of the Ascended Masters, if people don't know that, he's also the Great Divine director. I mean, he is literally the quarterback, if you will. And he does the most work, actually, on this earthly plane. And for the most part, an aspect of him is always operating on this planet,.

Alex Ferrari 36:03
And in this conversation where it is Babaji,

Rj Spina 36:08
Well, he, he's it,

Alex Ferrari 36:10
He's the master of the Master.

Rj Spina 36:11
Yeah, they all come, they go to him. It's like, Hey, listen, I don't quite got this, right? I need some help. Well, you, who you go to is mahavatar Babaji. He is the master of masters. He is no offense to anyone. He is by far the most evolved being that has ever walked this earth. He can materialize a body and dematerialize his body at will. He never ages. There's absolutely nothing that he isn't part of. Every time you hear thunder, that's him. Babaji is everywhere. And he is everything. He is the master of masters. And the one who quarterbacks the Masters is Saint Germain.

Alex Ferrari 36:47
So yeah, because from what I understand, Baba Ji is he's still around. Yeah, he's been around for, they say 2500 years. Yeah, it's longer, it's more, yeah, it's probably longer alive all that time, correct? Here on Earth? Yep, as opposed to a lot of the other Ascended Masters who work behind the scenes and incarnate every once in a while, right? He's decided to stay here. He has a 25 year old body. He's like, hey, if I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna look good. He's like, this is I could choose to be the old Yoda, but I choose Skywalker, the young version. So he is, he's walking around. And, I mean, if you he was first introduced to the psychist by Yogananda, if I'm not mistaken, is that the first? I mean, there has to be other stories in the Vedic text about him.

Rj Spina 37:35
There are, there are other stories. But because of the popularity of yoganandana's work, he really brought back, here's the, here's the thing about mahavatar Babaji, my direct experience, he just materializes and dematerializes. It's almost like he's not having an incarnation Alex.

Alex Ferrari 37:35
Right! No, no. It's not a new shows up. It just shows up and he shows up. I'm gonna walk around the Himalayas today, and he has a group of of beings that he is tutoring, tutoring, if you will. According to the, according to Autobiography of a yoga it's a pretty fascinating he's a such a fascinating guy. Oh, character. He is a fascinating, fascinating character. Now, you just said something about the 12 Elohim, yeah, Elohim, Elohim, yeah. I've never heard of these. Can you please go deeper into this?

Rj Spina 38:18
Oh, my pleasure. Okay, early on in the Bible, it's, it's still in there, there's mention of the Elohim. Now, Elohim means God's plural, okay, that's what that that's what that means. It's still that's

Alex Ferrari 38:30
But that's from my understanding as a very bad Catholic that there's only one God. We are not the Greek. We're not the Greeks or the Romans that had multiple, multiple deities, or even the Hindus, who have 1000s of gods. That's different. We're a monolithic monotheistic, you know what? I'm using, God. What is this? This is in the Hebrew text, which is the Old Testament, yeah, yeah, Torah,

Rj Spina 38:54
Yeah, correct. It's, it's also in the King James Version of the Bible. So what are they saying? Okay, so, okay, and this goes back to the Hindu masters, right? And the Ascended Masters, okay, so the Hindu masters, I guess we have to give it the context. Alex, the Hindu masters talked about something that they called the absolute, or the all there is, okay. So the analogy that I use is just imagine all of existence just one day. Just wakes up. So we wake up in the morning. We're just here. Just here. We don't remember what just happened all this. We're just here, right? Okay, so at one point, this absolute or all there is, became self aware, but not fully self aware, because it just woke up, so it didn't know anything about it. It realized that it's everything it, but it didn't know anything about itself down there or to the right or to the left or etc, etc. So the only mandate of existence is to know thyself. So without even realizing it, it wants to understand itself right, because it realized it's everything. So what it did was it created 12 gods, or 12 we could think of them as drones at the. Point. So this, this, this, all there is that is everything. It's all of existence itself wants to understand itself. So it creates these 12 gods.

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Rj Spina 40:45
And sends each one. I don't know anything about me down there. You go down there, and you start creating. Now you're inside me. Now, as you create, you're going to learn about yourself, and as you learn about yourself, I'm going to learn about me, because I'm within you, and you are me. So I send you down there. I take another god over here and over here and over here. Okay, so these are the 12 Gods we exist. And are a creation of one of them. Of one of them, we exist within one of the Elohim, the multiversal structure, is a structure that was created within one of these Elohim, because I do and have since a kid, since being a child, and I teach it, there's a meditation that we can do where we can actually transcend all the frequencies and all the dimensions of the multiple multiversal structure, and in that moment, you can pierce the membrane of the multiverse, and you're in pure source, or God, uncreated. Now, if you keep going, you can actually leave the environment itself of God. You'll go into this quote, unquote space, or a void of just it'll feel like nothingness. And the consciousness jumps like this. It moves like that. It doesn't flow like a film, even though it's 24 24 frames per second. So you jump in consciousness, and you will actually, if you keep going, you will actually arrive at a whole other God, just like ours, just like ours, but it didn't create the same environment. Didn't create a multi multiversal structure, and the Ascended Masters are the projections from all of those Elohim. And each one of the Elohim is projected into each one of the environments of these 12 gods, one to experience it, and two to assist and aid in each one of their creations. And the Ascended Masters are the true teachers of humanity. They have been placed or projected, donated all the same thing really, into our environment as well. And that's why the babajis, the Christ, the Buddhas, the master ours, the El moryas, they keep showing up over and over because they have been donated in order to experience this environment and to aid our specific god in the evolution of its own consciousness. And so part of how we help our God evolve itself, it's through having its creations us evolve themselves. So as we evolve, our higher self evolves, as our higher self evolves, God evolves. And as God evolves, the absolute, or they're all there is, evolves.

Alex Ferrari 43:17
So it's essentially these. There are 12 algorithms essentially as a way to look, yeah, yeah. There are 12 algorithms and, and we are like, we're creating AI right now. We have created AI, a versions of it, and AI is becoming smarter and growing and things like that, yeah. And we're it's learning things that at a level and a speed that we can't they're processing. The processing powers is at a different level. So right now, as a creator of an AI, let's say I'm gonna learn a whole heck of a lot from whatever it's doing in a way that I can't do it by myself. It's doing that. So it's just an example of it. Yeah, when did this? This part of the I've never in all my days, have heard about the 12. And that, it fascinates me that's in the Bible today,

Rj Spina 44:07
That level of specificity is not in the Bible. The Elohim are mentioned by by name. The specificity comes through my own.

Alex Ferrari 44:15
So in the Bible, so in the Bible, how long is that? How long has that story been around?

Rj Spina 44:19
Forever.

Alex Ferrari 44:20
What book is it in?

Rj Spina 44:21
Well, I'm using the King James,

Alex Ferrari 44:23
Like, what book? Book of John, book of David.

Rj Spina 44:25
It's in the very beginning. I believe it's in I believe it's in Genesis.

Alex Ferrari 44:29
It's in Genesis, really, yeah. And how is it that I've never heard this idea of 12 gods.

Rj Spina 44:36
Because there's no good story to explain it other than the truth, right?

Alex Ferrari 44:39
And that that, but that truth throws things off. Well, I was gonna say that 12 that concept throws a lot of things out of whack, all of it. Why do they leave it in? Because they cut out a lot of other stuff.

Rj Spina 44:49
Well, they, yeah, that maybe, maybe they cut out. Well, here's well, just to, just to go all the way around, Alex the King James Version of the Bible. Oh, Jesus was, was was Ed. Did by Francis Bacon. Okay, Francis Bacon is an incarnation of master R so that same Ascended Master is still working, if that makes sense. So he was, he was Saint Joseph, he was Moses. He was also the one that edited the King James Version Bible. So maybe it's, maybe it's as if that Ascended Master still is doing some work on that, and still has more work to share,

Alex Ferrari 45:26
And I assume he couldn't put the Book of Enoch in, right?

Rj Spina 45:31
See, you know, these things change. It changes the narrative.

Alex Ferrari 45:35
You could talk about the Ethiopian Bible, right? The Ethiopian Bible has the Book of Enoch among other things, and it's actually one of the more pure remnants, is of the original edited version of the Council of Nicea and the many other councils that the Romans put together to put this book together, to kind of control these Christians that were going haywire in their kingdom. And that's how that whole, that whole thing, when I first heard about that stuff, still like, I was like, What? What? Because I was told God wrote the book. And I'm like, No, God didn't write the book. Like, oh, well, he was inspired by them. Like, well, why was he inspired in the council? And they were just taking old books, and then if you start looking at a lot of the stories in the Bible, you could find Hindu versions of it, you know, Budd story and all this kind of stuff in this kind of kind of thing. I know we're gonna piss off a lot of people listening, and that's okay, because if you're getting upset about this conversation, it's because you've associated yourself so strongly with the programming and the stories that have built your own identity that if I if you hear anyone challenging your idea, then it starts to rumble the foundation. Yeah, and I'm very open, and I always like to hear things from everywhere and pick the best from what works for me? Yeah, what I believe doesn't work for everybody. Well, you believe doesn't work for everybody. Everyone's at a different level. But it's just ideas. It's just conversations. No one's hurting you, exactly no one's hurting you. That detached, just an idea. Yep, it's an idea, it's a conversation, it's a what if

Rj Spina 46:58
I'll throw you, I'll throw you another one who Moses was talking to, right? That That wasn't God, that was Archangel Michael dispensing the 10 Commandments,

Alex Ferrari 47:08
I would sure. Yeah, I wasn't there. It sounds awesome. I wasn't there. So, and there's no footage, we can go there, though, and no, we can't. Most people can't. I can't, but, right? Right? I mean, I can't right now, but yeah, there's a lot of the deeper you go into the Bible and in those kind of religious texts, then more you understand how much has been manipulated. Oh my god, how much has been edited, how much has been misunderstood in the translation. All of it. You can go, you can go back to Sumerian tablets and and you start hearing the translations. You're like, well, we've got it from the Greek, but the Greek didn't actually understand that word, because there's no word for that in Greek. So then we kind of added this thing. It's kind of like, you know, it's kind of like the game with the the cans and the, you know, and the string. Or was it called, like, when you say something you whispered in someone's ear, yeah.

Rj Spina 47:59
But time it goes around the room. The story is completely, completely different.

Alex Ferrari 48:02
So there's a version of that going on throughout history. It's fascinating. Now, one other area of this before we move on, is Mary Magdalene, who is arguably one of the most abused characters in this this, this narrative of, you know, being told that she was and were being told. I mean, I always knew her as the town ho, yeah, you know, the town whore and and then Jesus showed up all of a sudden to protect her after they were trying to stone her, or something along those lines. But the more I've dug into it, she is not a town whore, because there was no in when the men who wrote this, and they were men of a certain level in society, yeah, women weren't they. You can't give a woman any sort of power, hence why there are no female priests. So there was no acknowledgement of that. But there's this woman that kept hanging around in the story. We need to change the narrative. Oh, she was the town whore, and she just happened, and Jesus saved her, and then he, she kind of came along for the ride. That's the way they portrayed the story, from my understanding and the deeper I've gone into it, and having channelers on and and other things, Mary to my understanding, is not only Yeshua, his wife, and also not, not only an Ascended Master in her own right, but there possibly was children, because it would make and if you look at it from a logical standpoint, that Jesus was a Jew, a Jewish preacher, essentially walking around, and he would not have been a Single Man. He would have been a married man, generally speaking, in the cultural norms of that time. So he would have been married, and oddly enough, he probably would have had some children along the way, even though that's not mentioned. And we can't have a messiah like that, because priests can't have, you know, can't be married in the Roman Catholic Church. So I'd love to hear your thoughts on. All of what I just said

Rj Spina 50:00
Oh, okay, all right, yeah,

Alex Ferrari 50:03
You've been You've been chosen. I see it in your eyes. Man,

Rj Spina 50:05
Well you know, like I said in the new book, there's a section on Ascended Masters, and I teach a whole course on the Bible through what I experienced directly through my own it's not astral projection. We can call it that, but it's not astral it's something else. So my direct understanding is that, yes, she is okay. So the context is a soul mate. We've heard that term bandit, about okay, so metaphysically, what a soulmate is. So we have the higher self, right? I know it's my fist, but we have the higher self, and it projects an aspect the soul, and that's me or you, okay, if someone is a soul mate, it's two projections from the same higher self. So you're meeting yourself. It's another component of the larger you. That's what a soul mate is. You're literally from the same Higher Self, a twin flame, by the way, because we hear that all the time, a twin flame is when the higher self is going to project a piece of itself, and before the Incarnation actually takes place, the sentience and energy is wise enough to realize that it would evolve itself better if it split in two.

Alex Ferrari 51:14
Now, is this a higher self or soul group?

Rj Spina 51:16
No soul group is different. So a higher self, we all come from a higher self, sure, right? And we are projections, and I always use octopus and tentacles for people to give Okay, so a soul group will be souls, not from the same Higher Self, from different higher selves that like to incarnate together, sure, because they work well with each other, and eventually, because that happens so much, and almost forms like a connective neuro you could think of it as like a neural link, yeah, so, because they do so much work together, so that's, that's what that is, got it. Got it. So Mary Magdalene is from the same Higher Self as Christ, in the same amount and level of sentience, just as evolved, just as powerful, just as gifted as Christ. They absolutely had kids. And from my direct experience, they had sex, they had six kids, and also from my direct experience, and then maybe at some other point, we'll have to talk more about this. Jesus lived to be 117.

Alex Ferrari 52:16
Yeah, so that's another thing I've been hearing a lot about as well, that the crucifixion did not actually happen. We just had Billy Carson on, and we had a long conversation about that exactly.

Rj Spina 52:28
I can tell you what did, though, so maybe not this time.

Alex Ferrari 52:32
No, no, I don't mind. We're down this road already there. So yeah, I mean, and that's a very difficult conversation. There's a difficult conversation have again? What if? Yeah, that's what this is. It's a what if. It's just ideas. It's just a conversation. Yes, no one get upset, because that's how we grow exploring different that's how our souls grow, by exploring different patterns in different ways. So why not explore ideas in this different idea? Yeah. Way, if you look at it from a logical standpoint, the crucifixion is a great story device in the concept of trying to control people and disempower them, and disempower them, because you need someone else in order to reach the higher, the highest, waiting for the Savior. Waiting for the Savior, exactly. So it's a very powerful story arc, essentially from a filmmaking in a storytelling that's a very, very powerful story element to do that he rides off into the sunset with the six kids and does and lives to the ripe old age of 120 Yeah, while still helping a lot of people. Yeah, from my understanding, and this is what I've heard he went to India. He went back because in India, he is a renowned yogi. Yep, renowned Yogi in India, Mary, not Magdalene, but his mother, died on the on the way. This is what I heard. And I heard this from a documentarian. You tell me what you feel that her body was buried between where Pakistan and India have this kind of territory, and that there's a thing there, a grave, a grave like there's something there that everyone kind of protects and no one's allowed into. And that's what I heard. And then he went off and lived the rest of his life over in India. That's what I heard. I'd love to hear your thoughts.

Rj Spina 54:21
Yeah, she never quite made it there. She never quite made it there. So that, and believe it or not, as strange as this sounds, that's the first time I've investigated that, and I have a deep personal connection. We don't need to go into all this stuff. Okay, so, yeah. So he lived most of his life. He taught many, many, many people that wound up becoming masters. He traveled the world. He did. He did move to India and and his mom also an Ascended Master. His mom never actually arrived. And so what it seems like, that's most of that story, seems, feels and sees. What I see feels correct. And I guess there is a it's guarded. It's like, it's guarded. Have like, you can't it's so

Alex Ferrari 55:06
I saw the footage, okay, it's guarded. And depending on who owns because it goes the control of the area, goes back and forth between India and Okay, on where it is. So it's on that border, yeah. And they built something, some sort of Tower, yeah, around it. But they built around it. They respected the area you can't, you can't, like, just on top of it. It was, like, around it, yeah. And he actually snuck in with a camera, which was not allowed, shot it and came and he barely got out, like, the guards, like, what do you do with it? And for whatever reason, was allowed to leave out. It's a movie called Jesus in India, which you find, I think, on Amazon Prime or something like that. I had him on the show, Paul, who was the director of it, and he was talking and he went throughout the world looking for what happened to Jesus in India years ago. But it was an interesting idea, so that Mary actually didn't make it, and she passed on the road to India. So what did he do? And during if he did not, he was there was no crucifixion. Did he just, I'm out See you guys. I'm heading out. Did he like, you know? What happened to the 12 boys that are hanging around him? Where's the boys hanging? You know? Because there's a there seems to be a tremendous amount of proof and historical fact, if you will, of what the apostles did, you know? I mean, I was at St Peter's Basilica, you know, all these kind of, you know, the spreading of the word and all this kind of stuff that turned Rome into what it eventually turned into, the Roman Catholic Church. What, how did he leave? Where did he go? And one thing I'm noticing that you're doing, you're like, kind of looking off. And you're like, I feel like you're channeling or you're doing something when, when I was telling you the story, you were like, Hold on, let me check. And you were like, Yep, yeah. Is that what you're doing?

Rj Spina 56:53
Yeah! Okay, yeah. So yeah, as I said. And you know, there's a just, there's a deep connection. So, okay, so the crucifixion, and again, I teach a whole course on this. The crucifixion was an illusion. Okay? There weren't 12 disciples. Alex, there were 24, 12 of them were women. Can't have that, of course, not, right? So there were 24 now, remember these 24 disciples were very evolved souls, which is part of why they were drawn to Jesus to begin with, anyway, because they recognize the truth. Okay? Yogi, yeah, so they were drawn. So these are 24 very evolve souls that were trained by a master. Archangel Michael was also there, and so was his earthly father, just not physical Correct. Okay? So everyone was expecting a crucifixion. Okay? So essentially, these 24 beings, as well as master R, who is the master of the mystic arts, him and Archangel Michael and the 24 disciples, used the energy that they could feel from all these people in terms of what they were expecting to see, and they literally used all that energy to create, literally a mirage and an illusion. And Christ just walked away, came back three days later.

Alex Ferrari 58:12
What do you mean? Came back three days later?

Rj Spina 58:13
Well, that's him. You know, the story that he came back to life, and three days later, yeah, he actually just showed back up.

Alex Ferrari 58:19
And that's what people

Rj Spina 58:20
Right, right! The story of the crucifixion, that that were disgusting and filthy and that someone has to die for. These are all. These are all lies, lies, lies, lies on the deepest levels. There was no crucifixion. It never actually occurred. It was an illusion, because that's what everyone was expecting to see. And he just walked right back in three days later, that's what actually happened. And there were 24 disciples that were powerful, that could help create and along with Master R and Archangel Michael, that could create this illusion, which there was nothing that was going to happen to him. It doesn't even, it doesn't even make sense, the fact that he could do all these things, which he could do, but yet he he was able. They were he allowed everyone to kill him because he couldn't stop it, or because he was supposed to allow everyone to kill him. It doesn't even add up, just in terms of common sense.

Alex Ferrari 59:06
Well, the thing I like what you just said is that that, you know, he had to die on the cross for our sins, that we're just, you know, dirty and nasty and and he needed to come and cleanse us when we are all God, yeah, even the nasty of us you got it is, is it's God? He? He or it, for the lack of a better word, source created us. Created every bit of us. Create everything around us in one way, shape or form. So how? You know, I was joking the other day with Billy, when he was on the show. He said we were talking about baptism, and when my, my kids were born, you know, my parents, like, who are, like, not even remotely Catholic. They were, you know, they were the, the Easter Christmas Catholics. That's the Easter Christmas Catholics, yeah, that's all the time to went to church, yeah. And maybe, depending on the years, it started to wean off. So. They haven't been in a church in 20 years, either of them, and they, they go so, so you gonna get them, you know, baptized. I'm like, you and I looked I'm like, Are you? Are you serious right now? Are you, you? Are you see it to like, and this is the best part. Well, you know, just in case.

Rj Spina 1:00:18
Let's just cover our bases.

Alex Ferrari 1:00:19
I mean, this is just in case you know you're wrong. Why not? Yeah, and I'm like, wow, yeah, wow. That the idea that something is pure and innocent as a child is born with Original Sin is insane. Is insane that our Creator all love sticks a little sin, which sin, listen, I have to go down that road is, you know, it's impure in some way. That needs to go to the authority, which is the Catholic Church, to then get a dude who God knows was what he's doing, to to pour some water that he is blessed, not God, that he is blessed to do that. And also it's gonna cost a couple bucks to do that. It's not free services. I mean, again, we can't, we can't just get free. God needs a big house, right? And as you're walking in, you're tripping over the gold in it. You know, it's like when I was at the Vatican. I'm like, this has nothing, no, nothing to do with Jesus, nothing, no at all to do with what he what he's talked about. It means nothing. It's all about power and control over people and maintaining its own power. And it's just such a obvious thing. I think more and more people are figuring that out, yeah, but that whole idea of the baptism and the original sin and all of that stuff. So the idea of the crucifixion didn't happen, which is a very difficult thing for a lot of because that's the core, that's the core thing of Christianity and Catholicism, is that he died in our sins. And this is the thing that always upsets me. Anytime you see Jesus, he's always just like pain and bleeding and hurting, and like, I always try to, if I find an image or recreate an image of Yeshua, I always try. It's happy, yeah, it's a happy, smiling face. Because it's like, Man, this is this is rough. It's always a downer. Even when I was a kid, I go to church and you look up, you're like, oh yeah. I mean, wow. He's always upset. It's always like, dour and dark, doom and gloom, you know, kind of kind of vibe. And I was like, that's not rejoicing, that's not love. That man was pure love,

Rj Spina 1:02:32
Yeah! And he was the opposite of that.

Alex Ferrari 1:02:34
Right! Everything, everything, everything he's ever taught, even by the book that they cobbled together some of his teachings made it in, yeah. And he and he was all about love and forgiveness and kindness, yeah. And, you know, everything I have, everything I can do you can do, and more correct, the kingdom of God is within you, within you now, within a giant building full of gold. The one thing I wanted to talk to you about is dark entities. Now, a lot of people talk about how there's ghosts out there, and there's evil spirits and that kind of stuff. And to a certain extent, from my understanding that they're, you know, we I don't want to go down the road of ghosts. We've talked about that show on the show a lot. And evil tank, the term evil is a little rough, but there are, there are entities or energies that are at a lower vibration out there. Can you kind of dive into what that does? How it does? I mean, we're not talking about the exorcist that does it. I don't think there's like the devil comes in, all that stuff, great movie, but I don't think, I personally don't think that's a thing. That's my personal feeling on it. That's that kind of intensity. But there are, I think there are entities that do affect our daily, our daily lives in one way, shape or form. Can you explain that?

Rj Spina 1:03:59
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Okay. So astral entities exist, okay?

Alex Ferrari 1:04:06
Yogananda spoke about that an autobiography of Yogi,

Rj Spina 1:04:08
I mean, and anyone, any, anyone worth their salt has seen or experienced that considers themselves the ability to do these things, you're going to run into them just, it's just the way it is. And they exist in the fourth, fifth, sixth and seventh frequency, the astral realm. Astral entities exist in the astral realm. Okay, they're absolutely real. 100% they are. They operate in a very parasitic way. Alex, so in other words, they can't sustain their own life force, so they have to feed upon something so and it's no different, really, for the most part, in terms of how we do it. We, most of us, eat food and drink, right? Because we have to, right? Okay, so they exist in a higher frequency, and so what do they feed on our energy? I mean, it's not that, you know, it's not difficult to understand, but that is how that how that works. So. So they need a host the astral entities, about 20% of the population, from my direct, you know, and working with people, about one in five people have an entity attachment that is affecting their life, their thought process, their emotional life, the choices that they make, absolutely the worst, worst case scenarios is that this, these removals of the bigger, nastier astral entities. And I'll explain what that is, the removal of the this is what the church would call an exorcism. This is exactly what they would call it. They there really was an entity right now, evil and demons and stuff. Okay, I've been I've traveled everywhere, and this isn't the first time I do stuff like this as RJ, there's no such thing astral entities, for sure. Now, all of these things are essentially entities that have forgotten what they truly are. They've gotten they've moved so far away from the light and so far away from their own love that it's no longer part of the way that they operate at all. So everything is about feeding upon something else. Astral entities greatly affect humanity. Greatly affect humanity. They what they'll often do is they'll attach themselves, just to be specific, they'll often attach themselves to a chakra. Because our chakras are the energy metabolizers and energy transformers. So the energy comes in through our chakra system. That's actually how we're able to exist. We think it's food. It's not. I promise, it's our chakra system that does it. So they will attach themselves to one of the vortices, or many of the vortices of the chakras. So as the energy is coming in, they're actually feeding on that energy. They're actually getting that then they'll give the person an inflated sense of themselves. They'll give them access to information that's in the astral that our body consciousness does not allow us to have access to. And they'll feed a lot of, get ready, a lot of psychics and mediums have attachments. They just don't even realize it. That's part of where they're getting the information. So they're being fed information, right? That feeds, sort of this euphoric and the sense of power and a bit of vanity, and then they feed on that. So it's this symbiotic. It's the symbiotic relationship. They're absolutely real. They absolutely exist. But these ideas of demons and this and that, these, these things came from two things. One, their their astral entities are simply part of the environment within the fourth, fifth, sixth and seventh. They're simply part of just like we have parasites here, right? Okay, they are. They're parasitical, and they operate there. So they were just part of the actual construction of the multi multiversal structure. I'm going to add one more thing to this, the being known as Lucifer, who was heavily involved, who was heavily involved in the human experiment. And again, I talk about this in my class, heavily involved in the human experiment. Some of these astral entities are just literally thought forms from Lucifer. He actually just thought them into existence. So some of them, and I really think this is where we get the idea of demons, from thought forms, from him, as well as they naturally occur within the within the environment itself, typically. And I've done what we would call, if I was a priest, I've done many, many, many exorcisms. Now, from a metaphysical perspective, it's an entity removal. So you just, you just remove the entity, but you, not only do you remove the entity, but you have to know what to do with them once you remove them,

Alex Ferrari 1:08:51
Very Ghostbusters like

Rj Spina 1:08:52
It's very Ghostbusters like, but that's, that's Astra entities, evil.

Alex Ferrari 1:08:58
This is a man made thing.

Rj Spina 1:09:00
That's what I mean. So evil is a propensity and a proclivity towards low frequency actions and behaviors. That's that's what that is. Now we call that evil, but evil is, from my direct experience, evil doesn't actually exist. There are beings that are operate so disconnected from what they are that there's no love whatsoever within them. Now that's probably why we get the feeling of evil, but it's still a creation of God. It's still spawned from love, but it's gotten so addicted, so forgotten what it is, and gotten so addicted to operating in a low frequency way. Those are the beings that are astral entities, and why people then term it evil from generally a religious perspective.

Alex Ferrari 1:09:46
Yeah. That makes, that makes all the sense of the world in the sense of the concept of evil, because if you, if you think about it, source God created everything, yeah, so if they created everything, right? Um. Right? You know, did he create? Again, I use the word he just for reference. Did he it create, you know, bad people just just to screw with us, or is it just an expression that needs to work itself out and evolve in whatever level it is? You know, you can't see the light without the dark Exactly, exactly. And that's, you know, it's just the way it kind of, it's just the nature of this reality,

Rj Spina 1:10:29
Yeah. And the other thing too, is Alex that if it's possible, it exists. So, in other words, all possible possibilities actually exist. So is it possible for beings to have an existence where they're so far removed from love, and therefore, then, and therefore don't operate that way. Yeah, because it's possible. So it exists, so it's all part of the learning and experiencing all possible possibilities. So everything can evolve itself with the greatest efficacy.

Alex Ferrari 1:10:54
Well, if you look at, you know, the worst of us, in the sense of, like, you know people who've killed and, yeah, and you know, serial killers, these kind of people, when you see them in interviews, you can see that there is they are devoid of love, Yeah, completely devoid and disconnected at such a high level that, you know, if you or I did something that heinous, we would Feel it, it would tear us apart. I mean, I, you know, I'm vegetarian, for God's sakes, you know. So, like, I there's a there's a level that I just can't go past from where I'm at, not judging anyone who does. But do you see what I mean? So it's so when you see them, and then when you meet someone like a yogi, a Swami, an enlightened being of any, any denomination, across across the world, they only are full of. Yeah, they're only full of. You feel the love when you walk into someone like I've been in the room with a sociopath, a gangster. So I've been in the room with a sociopath and worked alongside him for a year in horror and terror, and I felt every time I'd walk in the room, I just felt drained. They he just sucks all the energy out, because that's what he was feeding on, essentially, yeah, and then I've been in the room with a yogi, a master. I've been enlightened beings. And you just walk all it's, you know, it's different. So I completely understand what you're saying.

Rj Spina 1:12:29
Yeah, this is the siphoning of the energy. So they're so removed from their own source of of love and therefore nourishment, that the only way that they can sustain themselves is to take energy. These are the energy vampires. And when, when we have a true sociopath, there's normally, then this is part of what narcissism is. And where there's psychopathy and narcissism, there's astral entities. They're never they all gravitate it's like blood in the water. All The Difference, not just one kind of shark shows up when there's blood in the water. It's like anyone that got it with a vineyard, right? They all just zero in. So where there's narcissism, there's psychopathy, and there's Astro entities,

Alex Ferrari 1:13:11
Well there's also too. Is like when you are full of light and full of love, they can't even be near correct? They are just repelled. There's so much, and you hear that in the near death experiences, yeah, that go dark, like they have to go through a hellish experience. Only once the light shows up, they just scatter because they cannot handle that energy. So the closer you are to source, the closer you are to love and kindness and those kind of, those energies, those frequencies, those things can't even come near you at all.

Rj Spina 1:13:45
That's kind of what it's like when you do a healing on someone who has entities. When you start to command and channel the energy they they're literally like, Uh oh, Ro rope, yeah. Literally, they're like, Uh oh, we're about to be toast, like that. Same thing starts to take place, because they know what's coming. They absolutely know what's coming. And when that energy, that high frequency energy, starts, they literally scurry like little cockroaches. It's fascinating, but you have to still just, you have to repair the vortices and the damage. And then you actually have to take those things and you literally take them to the light to remind them of what they actually are.

Alex Ferrari 1:14:21
I was about to ask you, like, there is a there is a pathway for them to be evolved? Yeah, there's a pathway to go down that road. Because we all look, even in our own lifetimes, you know, most of us, we do dumb stuff. We hurt people. Yeah, you know people we love, even you know, you say something stupid, act in a dumb way, make mistakes, especially when you're a kid or when you're young. You know, you make mistakes along the way. You know, things that you and I did when we were five and hurt somebody, you know, I don't know about you. I probably punched a little girl because I liked her on the arm, or something like that, you know, or something something dumb, or say something mean. I. Um, you learn from that, and they learn from that. Moving forward, you look back now, you like, I can't even comprehend doing something like that. You know, even something I did 10 years ago, 15 years ago, you learn and you grow. So these energies have just fallen a little bit darker, Faller down, yeah, the path, and then we have but it's an example of, we're all capable of it. We're all capable of going either way. It's our choice, our focus of what we want to become that changes our energies. I mean, I've met Buddhist monks who you just walk around you're like, man, it just feels good being around you. Yeah, you know. You know, you might not even believe you know, and they're in the in the in the path that they're walking like I can't sit and meditate for 20 hours a day, like it's not something I'm gonna do. It's not my path. My path is to do something else. But when you around them, you just sense it. And most people do. I mean, most people do. Most people do feel it. Now I wanted to ask you about an Ascended Master that does not get talked a lot. She doesn't get a lot of press. And I said she because there's very few. She's in the Ascended Masters Club, if you will, that are public, at least, are widely known. Quan Yin.

Rj Spina 1:16:13
Quan Yin, yeah, okay,

Alex Ferrari 1:16:15
Excuse me. Quan Yin, she's standing right here behind us. Quan Yin, can you talk a little bit about who she was, because one of the biggest questions I get from a lot of my female, uh, listeners and watchers, they go, you keep talking about all these male ascended Are there any females? And I go, Look, I did a whole episode about that, but yeah, there's a handful. Then she's one of the big, like, one of the very well known ones in Asia. She is, yeah, much, much better and well known than we are. Yeah, yeah. Can you talk a little bit about her?

Rj Spina 1:16:42
Yeah. So the first thing I think might be helpful is to understand that no, no soul, and which would also include an Ascended Master, no soul is masculine or feminine. And this is, of course, this is the big thing where it's like, well, where are them? Because I get asked this, like, RJ, you talk about the you write about the Ascended Masters, where's all Where's all the women? Where are the women at Yeah, okay, so no soul is masculine or feminine. So when we incarnate, we just decide what energies, sure we're going to work right? Okay, now, and I'll get to Quan Yin a second. In general, ascended masters do incarnate in male and male form. This is not where all the women, there's plenty. There is absolutely more ascended masters that have incarnated as a male. This is, this is, if I'm my direct experience. This is effect. Okay, so why? Okay, so the so that the answer is, metaphysically speaking, if you think of masculine energy as a doing as a doing energy, and that it's a very specific vibration information, okay, that specific vibration, or information of the master is then inserted into a space, into you could think of it called a timeline, if You want, or whatever, so that that that masculine, that information, is inserted into a space so and now we can think of even just the mechanics of of sex, of intercourse, right? The masculinity is putting itself within a space, right, okay, it works the exact same way. Now that's the main reason, the other main, the other main reason, is that an incarnation has to have, it has to have a beginning and an ending. And when you're working with feminine energy, it's too expansive. It's it's it just keeps going. The feminine energy is really like the it's everything. And then the masculine energy isn't, is put into and inserted it so that the Ascended Masters come in for a short period of time and they insert themselves within it, because that female, masculine energy is what's able to hold it and receive it. So for the most part, that's why Ascended Masters incarnate as masculine that's the reason.

Alex Ferrari 1:18:55
Now from my understanding, too, and this, does this make any sense? There are more male ascend masters, because in 2000 years ago, no one's listening to a woman. Well, yeah, I mean, and all categories, and it's not, it's what it was, it's what it was. I mean, we just, the women just got the right to vote here. What? 70 years ago? Hard to believe, but, yeah. But I mean, that's where we're at. So what's that? Too long ago? So that's another reason why. And I say that so people kind of understand what it is.

Rj Spina 1:19:24
Yeah, Joan of Arc was, was El Morya? Uh huh, by the way, Elizabeth the first was El Morya.

Alex Ferrari 1:19:31
It didn't end well for them.

Rj Spina 1:19:32
No, well, it's not about that. Yeah, they hear they're here to do a job.

Alex Ferrari 1:19:35
No I understand. But to our point, yeah, they're not very I mean, no, you've got to be so extreme to be able to even make a dent, correct, as a woman, but as a male, in those time periods, yeah, they're much more open and can reach, I guess more, yeah,

Rj Spina 1:19:51
It just, it just lends itself to bring to bring in that vibration, into the voice, hit the microphone to lends itself to bring it into that space. That, that feminine energy that's able to hold and love and have the whole thing so that that that's why, that's why they tend to incarnate. But every master, and there's 13 original old, what I call the OG's Alex. So those are the, those are the ones from the the 12 Elohim, and from the absolute Paramahansa, Yogananda is direct, absolute or all there is. He is an uncreated creation. The other 12 old school Ascended Masters come from the come from the Elohim. Quan Yin is, I'll try not to get emotional. Just by saying her name, I connect with her. So Quan Yin, it was discussed that she would usher in the Age of Aquarius. She is the God and Goddess of Mercy. And so it was first thought that this age that we're entering into, that it would be best that she quarterback it. And it just turns out that master R, the being we know is Saint Germain and all those different incarnations so that higher self is going to quarterback The Age of Aquarius. But she, she is mercy. She is it. She, she has, actually, she remains, almost you could think of her as I not returning to her higher self and not becoming one with God, but she remains floating just above everything to hear all the cries of suffering and so and to absorb them and then emanate back this. Yeah, I mean, there's, there's no there's no one like her. There's absolutely nobody like her, and the right choice was made. She's so well suited to do what she does, and master R is very well suited to come here and be a showman and show everyone what it's like to but Quan Yin is she's in the book, The encounter that I had with Quan Yin. She's in there and with and with the Virgin Mary. I talk about her in depth. She is the God and Goddess of Mercy.

Alex Ferrari 1:22:06
And what year was she incarnated?

Rj Spina 1:22:09
She She was incarnate. I'm not 100% sure. I believe it was early second, not second century. I'm not sure, because these beings when we talk,

Alex Ferrari 1:22:22
But historically, I mean, there's a historical record.

Rj Spina 1:22:24
Absolutely, absolutely, I'm not exactly sure what record is kept of her in terms of, but I believe it was

Alex Ferrari 1:22:30
200-300

Rj Spina 1:22:31
That's, that's what it feels like to me as we're talking about it

Alex Ferrari 1:22:34
So it's, it's, yeah, she's, she's up there.

Rj Spina 1:22:37
Right she just, she just kind of remains where she is. So she could, she could just still absorb all the suffering so it's emanated up to her, and she just projects back love.

Alex Ferrari 1:22:46
It seems like the Ascended Masters, really all have parts to play in this. Oh, absolutely. I mean, each one of them has a skill set as a team, if you will. There isn't one that does everything right. There's ones that are associated with certain things, just like the angels are as well. You know, like the Archangel Michael, Daniel, Gabriel, you know, Metatron. They all have their specific skill sets, which makes all the sense in the world. Because here in this incarnation, you know, you and I, in this incarnation, we lean towards certain things that we are good at, if you're, if you're the things you were really good at which we picked up along the way. You know, there's some like, you know, I really want, I really love physical, you know, working with my body and getting it to full. So I want to be an athlete, you know, a warrior or something like that. I spoke to an ex Green Beret on the show, one of my favorite episodes, and he asked, I forgot who he was asking. I think he was asking a wise man, a medicine man in the middle of, like the jungle somewhere he was at, and he would always be drawn to, like the medicine, the old medicine man in the room, you know, and, and he was like a guide. He's like, have have I always been a warrior? He's like, is this all there is for me. He's like, You are like a breed of dog. You are just always that, yeah, you've always been warrior. You've, oh, that's just what you have like to do throughout all of your incarnations. And he's like, wow, he goes, that's why you're good at it, yeah? I mean, that's why you are who you are. You know, you try to do it with compassion, and you do it for the right reasons in your own code, but you've just always been this, and it's just, it goes when you you're like a breed of dog, like a pit bull is a pit bull? Yeah, a chihuahua was a Chihuahua. It's just what it is.

Rj Spina 1:24:40
Yeah. Think of, think of a pizza. Alex, right? If I'm getting hungry. So you think you think of a pizza, right? And say it's sliced into 12 slices, right? Okay, so each slice is like one of the Ascended Masters, and they provide, or they're an embodiment of, let's say, the pinnacle. Example of that one thing, right? Okay, now, but you put it all together, right? It's one pizza. It covers everything. Now the whole thing, the totality of existence. We got the whole pizza. The whole thing is covered in each slice is its specific skill set. And absolutely, the Ascended Masters have specific skill sets. Yogananda is the Yogananda is the master of love. Sri Yukteswar Elmore is the master of the will. Saint Germain is the master of the mystic arts. Buddha is the master of wisdom. I mean, they all have their strong suit. Jesus is the healer. Yeah, right, so, I mean, they make it. I just use the pizza again, probably because I'm Avengers, spiritual Avengers. Yeah, they get the Yeah. So it makes up you put each slice, and then you got the totality of existence is completely covered.

Alex Ferrari 1:25:51
So, yeah, that's, I've never really thought about them like that, but they all have a very specific skill set, you know, very, you know, one and one's literally the mystic arc Dr. Strange.

Rj Spina 1:26:01
That's, that's all after master. R, let's make no mistake about that. The he is supposed to be Saint Germain. He even's got the he even has the cape. It just doesn't have enough rings.

Alex Ferrari 1:26:09
Right exactly. Now, I wanted to ask you, RJ, there seems to be a lot of stuff going on on the world right now. Can you explain, from what you've seen what's in store for us as a as a as a consciousness, as a society, as a species. Where do you see us going? Because this year is going to get crazy. We're in an election year. It's the there's over 50% of all countries in the world are having elections this year. There's a huge shift politically around the world without getting anything I don't want to go left or I don't care, just talking about as a general state, yeah, broad strokes, where are we go? Where are we going to prefer the rest of this year and over like the next decade?

Rj Spina 1:26:52
Where we most desire is where we're going to go. So destiny. We keep talking about destiny is being written. That is from my direct experience, that is inaccurate. It has to do with where our attention is going and what our intention is. So we're going to determine where we go, what we're what we're seeing right now. How I term it Alex is a thrashings of a dying consciousness we're leaving behind all the things that we believed to be real and true, right? So it's kind of like a metaphysical or spiritual even, I don't like that word metaphysical or spiritual detox, because, and we know when we do a detox, right? It's messy, yeah, stuff coming up like crazy. But you know, how do you feel after like, a million bucks? Okay, so these things have to be brought to light. That's what's really going on, and we're seeing, and I wrote an article about this a couple years ago. It's the battle over a timeline. I mean, that's really what, that's really what this is about. It's either freedom and sovereignty, which always go hand in hand, right? Or the opposite, or the opposite. And like I said, you know, politics are just the the entertainment division of the military industrial complex. Okay, that's all. That's all. Politics is okay, but what we're seeing is, so let's think of a flower. And of course, El Morya wrote the holy science friend. He talked about yugas, okay? And I think you and I mentioned it's almost impossible to read. Sorry, yeah, it's almost possible. Okay, it is a very different Yeah. I mean, it's a hard book. Yeah, it's like, let me read that again.

Alex Ferrari 1:28:22
I mean, Yogananda was a little bit better at that situation. Yeah, such a much better storyteller.

Rj Spina 1:28:27
So if we, if we just replace whoops, if we just replace that with a flower, yeah? Okay, consciousness blooming, okay, we're at a very important juncture of this next blooming into what we would call an age of enlightenment. So we're at this very important juncture, so all the forces are at work to try to hold down the flower blooming by putting us on a different timeline, so we don't have the tangible experience of our own expansion. And that's kind of but that's what's really going on. Now I can tell you that the human experiment from the largest, most 30,000 foot perspective, it's a raging success. The free will experiment is a raging success. These next six years are going to be the wildest ride that humanity has ever had, because everything is being exposed right now, and even more is going to be exposed. There's going to be more lies. There's going to be more events where it would seem like there's nothing we can do, and we're going to have to go along. They're going to pull out all the stops, all the stops, and we've seen them these last couple years. We don't even have to be specific, we've seen them these last couple years. It's going to increase. It's going to increase, and humanity is going to decide what it wants to be the awareness of based upon what it is that it's going to experience, based upon our attention and our intention. Attention and intention will determine where we go. But there has never been anything you. In terms of these next six years that are coming up that humanity has ever experienced,

Alex Ferrari 1:30:04
It's gonna be a hell of a decade.

Rj Spina 1:30:05
Big time.

Alex Ferrari 1:30:06
It's gonna be

Rj Spina 1:30:07
Big time. Don't hang on anything. Realize that what you are is a mortal whole, complete and perfect, and that this is a show in order to get your attention, because your attention is energy. And the more that you give these kind of events, your attention, your energy, from a heightened emotional state, the more that you're adding to it, and the more that it actually builds. And that's actually what builds the disparate timeline. I hope everyone really understands what I just said, and play that part again, detached and unemotional about what's going on. If you're attached and emotional, you're adding to it, we build the timeline for them by doing that

Alex Ferrari 1:30:43
Now, before we, before we wrap up there, we've mentioned Merlin a couple times. You know, I the idea of Merlin is such an amazing yeah, in the story, in the story of King Arthur, but there was a guy, oh, he was, but he was based on something real. Can you talk about who Merlin was and why he had, I mean, there's so many stories about him. Can you talk about, was an Ascended Master?

Rj Spina 1:31:09
Yeah, yeah. That's an incarnation of the the being that we know is master. Are that higher self is the the master of metaphysics, right? So his, his incarnations, as we said, Moses, Merlin, Saint Germain, Roger Bacon, who most people don't know who Roger Bacon is. He, he could summon spirits. People thought Roger Bacon he was in the 13th century, like around 1200

Alex Ferrari 1:31:35
Kevin's brother, Kevin's brother.

Rj Spina 1:31:39
So that was, that was an incarnation from the same higher self. And Roger Bacon was, people thought he was an automaton because he seemed to be so connected to something, and he could summon spirits. I mean, Moses was incredible at this too, by the way, people don't know that about Moses. So Merlin is from that that same Higher Self as well as Saint Germain. Merlin was absolutely real. Absolutely real. He's he was he that incarnation, specifically, he was able to master certain aspects of what we would call magic. Now, magic is just the accessing and utilization of energies that lie outside of physical sensory perception. That's what metaphysics are. So in that incarnation, he kind of took that to as far as he could take it. If that makes sense, he absolutely existed. And most of what Merlin was doing was to, was to, was to bring about this harmony with nature. I mean, he was the true wild man, and people don't know this about him. He was the true wild man. He's not the Merlin and the TV show, which is a great TV show, I remember that, but, yeah, but he was not like that. He was not like that at all. He was an absolute wild man who was had so much wisdom and so much ability that he would lend his talents and abilities for the betterment of all. He would try to bring things together. So there was this harmony with nature. That's what he was really about. He understood. He could speak and work with elementals, crystals. I mean, he had crystals all over me. Could work with crystals. I mean, the whole staff that he used, as you know, was made of holly wood, stop. It made of Hollywood with the metal going up it, and then the crystal at the end, because wood metal and Crystal are amplifiers. They're amplifiers of energy. And so he would use his kinetic intention to manifest something, and he would use his staff. And now we see the spells that Merlin would create. Now we think about Hollywood and the spells they create. That's why they call it Hollywood. They because they want to be able to do that. Merlin Absolutely. Real. It's one incarnation of master R, and that higher self is the embodiment of, we could say magic.

Alex Ferrari 1:33:52
Now, RJ, I'm gonna ask you a few questions I ask all my guests, and I haven't asked you these things. I think our first conversation. Oh, okay, so I want to see how they've changed, okay? And apparently, if I don't ask these, the audience is upset, so I have to ask these. Oh, because some of that, why didn't you ask them the last question? I'm like, Okay, let me I'll ask you again. So, um, how do you define a fulfilled life?

Rj Spina 1:34:12
Oh, personal happiness.

Alex Ferrari 1:34:14
Okay, if you had a chance to go back in time and talk to little RJ, what advice would you give him?

Rj Spina 1:34:19
Follow your intuition.

Alex Ferrari 1:34:22
How do you define God or Source?

Rj Spina 1:34:23
Everything. It's everything. It's a it's the summation of timeless wisdom, which is unconditional love, and that's what God is.

Alex Ferrari 1:34:31
And what is love?

Rj Spina 1:34:32
It is the wellspring of being and non being. It is the primordial force of all existence itself.

Alex Ferrari 1:34:41
And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

Rj Spina 1:34:43
To know thyself and all thy infinite potential.

Alex Ferrari 1:34:46
And where can people find your new book, Access Super Consciousness and all the amazing things you're doing in the world?

Rj Spina 1:34:47
It's so Access Super Consciousness is on Amazon. I highly just came out. I highly recommend getting the audible and the paperback of. I narrate the audible and the feedback I get from people is hearing it and reading it. And of course, I get really carried away. So hearing that in my voice and then reading it, I think is the impact will be far greater. And of course, my website, we just did a workshop in Dallas, late July. So the website is, ascend the frequencies. Long URL, send the frequencies.com there's a newsletter that people can sign up for on the bottom. And I suggest, because I'm always doing, I got another workshop. I haven't announced it yet, but I'm going to be doing another workshop in my home state of Arkansas, that's coming up, classes and courses I'm always doing, doing something. So ascendthefrequencies.com and the newsletter is the best way to go.

Alex Ferrari 1:35:44
And do you have any parting messages for the audience?

Rj Spina 1:35:46
Yeah, so we were talking about this before that, about not identifying with what's going on. Because if we can detach and observe and realize that everything is happening because it needs to right, just like when we get we get sick. It's like we get sick and it's awful, but we have to purge. We have to purge it. That's what that's what's going on here. It's a spiritual detox. The key is to not identify with it and get all caught and get all caught up in it. And there's one more thing I want to add to this, so detachment, so just observe. Don't, don't, don't over mentalize and over emotionalize what it is that we're observing. The other thing is, is that I want everyone to know that there really is a battle of disparate timelines. There absolutely is now, just because we can see something going on. Let's done the news, the internet, whatever. Just because you or me or anyone can see what's happening, I want you to know that doesn't mean that's part of your timeline, right? That there is now. And Yogi's and masters build these things around them so they so they're untouched by what goes on here, so they can still have all their facility. But what's happening now is this, this, this timeline, disparate timeline. Those that are going to be on the timeline of, we'll call it ascension, those that are going to be on the timeline of ascension, they are there's almost like this barrier, this energetic barrier, that's going to separate them from this other from this other timeline. So even though you can see it on the news or maybe it's even happening in your home state or whatever, it doesn't mean it's going to be your reality, and it doesn't mean it's going to be the direction that you're going in. So detachment from what's going on and know the truth that you're going to experience what it is that you most desire to experience for yourself.

Alex Ferrari 1:37:42
RJ, it has been a pleasure, as always having you on the show, sir. I look forward to our next conversation. I appreciate everything you're doing awake in the world, brother, thank you.

Rj Spina 1:37:51
Oh, Likewise, likewise. This has been a blast. This is fantastic, and I'll drive another eight hours to hang out with you Alex.

Alex Ferrari 1:37:57
Appreciate you, man.